I just realized that the thing that makes anime great is the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator, but the fact that it tries to satisfy even the smallest niche.
It's like the antithesis of Hollywood in that way. It seems so obvious now that I thought of it.
Whoa
Damn
wow
No, it's just not trying to appeal to your demographic, so it feels new and different. You'll get over it.
>>137246162
No he's partially right, anime aims at a lot of different Otaku who have different niches, it's more prevalent in manga magazines but most anime come from manga anyway
Most of anime appeals to the lowest common denominator though.
>>137246058
>the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
Oh boy its a live one
>>137246293
>anime aims at different kind of people
Wow, so just like pretty much every other medium?
>the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
>>137246381
Common is the key word. LCD doesn't just mean bad taste, it means the broad base that appeals to a ton of people. Most of the "pandering" anime you probably complain about have a very specific, niche audience they're angling for.
>>137246162
Nah, I can watch Hollywood shit and it feels "okay I suppose" most of the time. But you want something specific? No can have. You get the standard shit.
Anime?
>you want a harem to be full of fucking frog girls from another dimension while you fight nazis from 5th century Mongolia? HERE'S YOUR EXTREMELY SPECIFIC FANTASY SETTING
>>137246315
It really does and it has its own set of cliches. Especially if you watch mainstream shit. But rarely do you see the kind of deviation from "the official way to tell stories" in Hollywood(or even in most indie films) that you see in anime.
The thing that makes anime great is really cute girls. Name me a single "good" anime that doesn't have cute girls.
>>137246517
>Nah, I can watch Hollywood shit and it feels "okay I suppose" most of the time. But you want something specific? No can have. You get the standard shit.
Are you seriously fucking implying all the films are made in Hollywood? How ignorant are you?
>>137246565
Mushishi.
>>137246565
Kaiji
>>137246664
However, Kaiji is pretty moe.
>>137246517
You're telling me you've never seen a film that wasn't transformers. Kill yourself.
>not trying to appeal to the lowest commom denominator
have you even checked this or last seasons chart? Generic ln adaptations and moe shit is the defenition of lowest commom denominator
>>137246517
Name a single anime as deviating as this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMCeDBn1Zu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOzOVLxbCE
>>137246517
>But rarely do you see the kind of deviation from "the official way to tell stories"
You see that every season though, that only things that change is setting and designs, everything else is cookie-cutter generic 90% of the time,
>>137246664
This.
Anime isn't great
>>137246589
Mainstream shit usually is, not to mention Hollywood is an important point of reference.
I'm not that interested in the Nigerian or Indian film industries(impressive as they may be), for example, and neither are most 1st world citizens.
You probably saw 3 Hollywood films in the last year alone no matter where you live, but don't kid yourself, when was the last time you saw a Bollywood or Nollywood one?
>I just realized that the thing that makes anime great is the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
It's really fucking sad if you genuinely believe this statement.
>>137246934
Can you just stop posting.
>>137246058
Yeah?
I'm sorry man I just considered it to be common knowledge and it is brought up a lot of times.
>>137246934
>Hollywood is an important point of reference.
Is this b8?
>>137246934
>You probably saw 3 Hollywood films in the last year alone no matter where you live
Not everyone's a normalfag.
>>137246873
Are you fucking retarded? Empire isn't art, it was put on a display screen to provide a unique background for a shop or a lobby or some shit, give me a fucking break.
You can clearly see what OP meant, he just used a dumb word.
>Big Hollywood productions: Appeals to a broader base and always tries to expand it. Niche is bad, doing things for a set of fans is bad.
>Late Night Animu: Appeals to a variety of niches, who are the only idiots who buys BDs. Who cares that most people are turned off by loli magical girls, monster girls and other shit?
>>137246517
>nazis from 5th century Mongolia
What does this mean?
>>137246058
>it tries to satisfy even the smallest niche
>mfw it jerks off my Maquiavellic boner with Oberstein
>>137246058
>doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
>what is idolshit, haremshit, lolishit, shoneshit
You have got to be joking anon.
>>137247414
>lolishit
>haremshit
>common
>>137247414
>lolishit
>lowest common denominator
Do you think scat snuff porn appeals to the lowest common denominator, too?
>>137246751
>>137247030
"Hollywood" isn't just Transformers and you've watched more Hollywood shit in your lives than you've watched from any other country. Don't kid yourselves. And I'm not even 'murrikan. I've watched fewer domestic movies in my life than Hollywood movies in a few years, and so have you unless you're particularly interested in domestic movies.
>>137246873
Armitage III: assassin android-turned-sexbot rebels against feminist conspiracy to destroy them(my very specific scenario that I wanted to be a series turned out to exist as anime)
>>137247686
>Armitage III: assassin android-turned-sexbot rebels against feminist conspiracy to destroy them(my very specific scenario that I wanted to be a series turned out to exist as anime)
Did you even watch the shit he posted?
>>137246058
>I just realized that the thing that makes anime great is the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator, but the fact that it tries to satisfy even the smallest niche.
Those two statements aren't exclusive. Anime regularly appeals to the LCD in ways undreamt of by Hollywood, but it does so by appealing to the very base of highly specific niches, so everyone gets catered to instead of what you have in the west where boardrooms analyze market data and try to appeal to the greatest amount of people by making something so middle-of-the-road it'll get butts in seats no matter what, at the cost of sacrificing artistic value. Anime has something for everyone, even if its shallow and debased. Hollywood just shits out generic shit that the masses love but leaves anyone with more irregular tastes having to sift through more obscure shit to find what they like.
>>137247686
>"Hollywood" isn't just Transformers and you've watched more Hollywood shit in your lives than you've watched from any other country. Don't kid yourselves
Yes, because that's what you watch growing up. Once you develop taste, you usually don't bother with Hollywood movies much, and you certainly don't use them as your point of fucking comparison for different media's creativity.
>>137247686
>"Hollywood" isn't just Transformers and you've watched more Hollywood shit in your lives than you've watched from any other country
>and so have you unless you're particularly interested in domestic movies.
Stop projecting you fucking mongoloid..
Indeed, OP. Moe is anti-kike, anti-degeneracy.
Moe is love.
ITT: No one knows what lowest common denominator means.
>>137247386
The whole series just does the whole galactic politics plot so nicely that by the last episode you're basically in tears. The only series I've liked that much is Babylon 5.
>>137246517
Sauce on the frog girl harem
>>137246058
No it really doesn't
I don't know how you can convince yourself of that if you even just take a glance at what is in a season
There is a very definitive status quo
>>137246058
You're so wrong that I find it sad to even laugh at you
But I will laugh at you nonetheless
fag
The weirdest thing about anime nowadays is that the shit that the current fanbase professes to be most into and which the "Cool Japan" movement has latched onto to promote as representative of the best Japanese animation has to offer is actually the most niche ultra late night moe otaku oriented content that is generally frowned upon by the masses in Japan and South East Asia and which by comparison to mainstream "acceptable" day time anime nobody really watches over there. That's the greatest fucked up irony of current "popular anime".
Too make a more simple comparison "popular anime" as we know it is like the equivalent of that cheap peasant class food (according to main landers) most people of means and something resembling good taste would never touch back home but that we know as every day "Chinese Food" in America. Like literally it's poor people food that we mark up to ridiculous extents and market like it's fine cuisine. That's what late night "popular" anime is essentially.
>it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
90% of anime does that though
>>137248514
Wow, what a surprise, no one knew that.
>it doesn't try to appeal to the lowest common denominator
>>137247714
No because I don't watch 100 minutes of video before posting and neither do you.
>>137247751
>>137247767
Pray tell, what do you use as a metric for good cinema if not common crap? If you judge everything by your highest standard you just end up hating everything.
Call me a fucking pleb but this is what I consider good:
[can't actually find any good short video since I'm considering what I consider good- existential crisis]
Have a depressing video made by mongols instead since you made me feel bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqntbIzu2o
>>137246058
Anime it's great because it's the closest representation of a dream ,so far.
Of course there's books, but you need a bit of fucking imagination for that.
>>137248614
>Pray tell, what do you use as a metric for good cinema if not common crap?
Are you 14 or what? Do you really judge a whole medium basing on mainstream shit?
>>137248614
>No because I don't watch 100 minutes of video before posting and neither do you.
Then don't fucking try to one-up him.
>>137248614
>Pray tell, what do you use as a metric for good cinema if not common crap? If you judge everything by your highest standard you just end up hating everything.
What? I have no specific standard, I like what I like.
>>137248608
What are the 'moe' show this season?
>>137246058
>pic of dead 80s anime genre
>Disney animation grossing 2.5 billion usd in 2015
>nipamation otaku pandering shit in 2015
anime is ruined ruined dude
>>137248744
>>137248753
>the point of comparison isn't the common stuff most people have seen and know about
Then what is it? Obscure shit no one gives a shit about?
I dont think its only that OP, IMO the fact that animators and directors have a liking for what they do.
Its like realizing that Princess Tutu was directed by a 30~yo dude and he obviously enjoyed doing so.
>>137249133
Why do people always seem to call LOGH "80s anime" when like a tenth of it was in the 80s? I get that we attribute things to their starting season, but you wouldn't call Golgo a 60s manga.
>>137249178
>everything that's not mainstream is obscure
wew lad
>>137249178
The point of comparison when you're comparing which medium is more creative is obviously going to be the creative stuff, you idiot.
>>137249133
>Disney
Which is a good example of what OP was talking about.
>>137249178
Here you go senpai
http://letterboxd.com/cinebro/list/they-shoot-pictures-dont-they-top-1000-film/
more and more anime these days do pander to the lowest common denominator, just not the one you're used to.
>>137249178
> the common stuff most people have seen and know about
Your example for anime was Armitage III.
>>137249236
>>137249248
So what exactly IS your point of comparison?
I like to have one I can actually talk about, and usually that's one everyone's seen.
>inb4 you have no friends
>>137249447
You've not seen all of those either unless you've been going through that list systematically.
I've seen a lot of them though, especially like Fritz Lang's shit.
Since this is /a/, I'm just gonna say this: No anime can top Metropolis. None of them, not even Planetes(though that one's close IMO).
>>137248608
>Reverse harem that will be the most interesting thing of the season
Maybe if you're a hamplanet with failed parental expectation issues.
