How can one girl be so much better than her competition?
Why do they even try?
if by being so much better at being shit then yeah why even bother competing with that?
>>136138238
Too bad Touma will probably end up withAccelerator
He doesn't even like her, anyways. Personally I am rooting for Itsuwa+Touma.
>>136138376
>mikoto shittier than the headcrab, pocket fairy, and the one touma can't even remember
Anon please. Othinus and Misaki are good but they require miracles to even think about getting the D.
>>136139311
Othinus was the closest girl to winning the bowl.
>>136138472
Itsuwa and Touma will never happen if Itsuwa doesn't show up in the LN. And Itsuwa won't show up in the LN if she doesn't become popular. And she won't become popular if season 3 doesn't happen.
So NEVER!;___;
>>136140130
It's a shame Itsuwa will never be nearly as popular because she isn't tsundere.
>>136140130
Don't count her out of the game just yet, you never know what could be around the corner. Assuming Touma doesn't turn out to be gay (though he did take an extra glance at 10031's panties I guess). Either way, I feel like this is simply one of those harem series where no girl will get the Touma in the end.
Still rooting for Itsuwa though. Never say;____;
>>136141031
Because she's not clinically insane you mean, as opposed to all Level 5s including Mikoto.
>>136141195
She murdered her Pontiff anon, she's pretty crazy too.
>>136141741
She doesn't have a fiery temper with anger management issues, so I think Touma would probably much rather go for Itsuwa if sheconfessed
>>136141897
>if she confessed
That's cheating anon, Touma's confirmed to go after any girl who confesses to him besides Index
>>136142010
>That's cheating anon
Sadly, too true. A good anime/manga/LN always has to have a bunch of girls trying to get a single guy endlessly until the series ends, otherwisefags like uswill get bored (at least they assume).
>>136142010
>Touma's confirmed to go after any girl who confesses to him besides Index
wait, when did this happen? my memory is shit or something.
>>136141897
For some reason I can't help but look at that picture and see Index preparing to eat the shit out of Itsuwa's pussy. Staring at her crotch, drooling, utensils in hand.
>>136142320
NT14 when he just runs straight to the roof giddy as hell that someone has confessed to him only to get High Priest instead.
>>136138238
Biribiri is pretty good but she can't even begin to compete with Kuroko.
>>136142450
If we're talking about raildex girls in general, saiai is best.
>>136138238
That is why they started the whole clone program
>>136139311
>Othinus
>Good
Please, you may pick only one.
>>136143891
I choose Othinus
>>136143891
Othinus is great.
>>136143891
I'll take misaka's clone.
>>136143944
I'll take a good girl instead.
>>136144079
Which one?
>>136144177
Filename senpai, 10032 for life.
Misaka worst is a very close second but she is a handful.
>>136144177
>good girl
I see none.
>>136138238
>False flag: the thread
>>136144177
Every time this image is posted, I am made uncomfortable by those feet.
>>136144177
>Good girl
So Sasha?
>>136144000
trips confirm.
>>136144272
>Filename senpai
It's missing some numbers then. Good taste though.
>>136144355
Rare choice. I never see sasha posted here.
the fact that a girl like misaka would like a guy like touma cringe my gears... thats why i didnt like the anime
>>136144423
I was going to say Alfar but it seemed like she was the only girl I mention so I mixed things up a bit since a good 70% of the girls are great anyways and no one mentions half of them
>>136144351
What's wrong with girly feet?
>>136144487
Don't worry, anon. She won't get Touma in the end, and will be forced to face her first rejection. Though that will never happen because the LN will only sell if the Touma race never ends.
>>136144595
>first rejection
>implying that she'll be rejected more than once
Friendly reminder that mikoto will get the aztec dick and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>136144673
>Implying she even remembers him
>Implying he even comes close to guys like Touma and GUTS.
>Implying Touma will reject her if he's single.
>>136144673
>aztec dick
Yeah, dream on. She has no interest in anyone other than Touma, and he has no interest in her.
>>136144729
>implying Touma would accept herconfession even if he was single
>>136144729
>GUTS
I was hoping kamachi would pair him up with a girl as crazy as Silvia so he can mirror Ollerus. Guess we'll have to wait for the next SS.
>>136144729
Touma will reject her because he has never shown any kind of interest or attraction towards her.
>>136144781
I'm hanging on for Oumi Shuri to try and desperately figure out what the hell he's doing so she can use his power for her clan
>>136144729
>Implying Touma will reject her if he's single.
Other than, you know, the whole "if you make her angry, expect to be fried to a crisp" thing... especially with her short temper and heavy jealousy. She is romantically immature, too.
Again, as >>136144791 said... he has no apparent interest, so she is just another girl who tries to electrocute him day in and day out.
>>136144768
>>136144791
>>136144850
Refer to >>136142010 and get with the times.
>>136144896
Mikoto is the exception as she will always fuck up.
>>136144896
Misaka: T-Touma... I... I... l-love you...
Touma: ...please don't kill me...
Yeah, I don't see it. Sorry, anon. Even if she confessed and he was open to anyone who confesses, I think even he would hesitate with her.
>>136144896
Mikoto much like Index doesn't count, not only won't she do it, she'd likely run away, shock him as she does it or some other stupid shit. Even then, Touma doesn't like her and avoids her if he can help it.
>>136144896
>Implying I'm not aware
>>136144924
>>136144981
>>136145013
B-but muh h-headcanon!
Face the music boys. When Mikoto confesses, and you can be sure she will, he'll accept. There is no canon reason why he wouldn't.
>>136145103
When Mikoto confesses, something else will interrupt her, like Kuroko appearing out of nowhere or Touma getting involved in another mess again and ditching her as has been normal for him.
>>136145103
Oh dear I forgot to greentext that first part. How embarrassing.
>>136145103
Because she is nowhere near the best girl spot.
>>136145103
How about because he doesn't like her? When your clone in Russia thinks she has a better shot than you you're fucking something up.
>>136145158
If she confesses and he hears it, he's going to respond to it at some point even if he gets pulled away on some other business.
>>136145171
>How about because he doesn't like her?
That's some nice headcanon you have there.
>>136145103
Other than, you know, his lack of romantic attraction and how he always has to run away from her because she tries to electrocute him.
>B-but muh h-headcanon!
Sounds like you have one too, anon. Until Touma gets a girl (which would probably be in the last LN of the series because it would be an end to the harem drama that people love), it is still an open debate for us to decide who is the most probable girl.
Personally, I hope it'sItsuwa. She is perfect, and he has no reason to fear her wrath like he does with Misaka.
>>136145238
>That's some nice headcanon you have there.
Show proof or your conjecture is also just headcanon.
>>136145238
Just because he once said he'll accept any girl who confessed to him doesn't mean he will actually accept her given the chance.
>>136145238
>Headcanon
Every speech he's used for explaining why Mikoto was special to him like he did to High Priest is applicable to every girl he's met.
Touma's a horrible option for a life partner anyway if you look at it from a certain angle.
He's poor as dirt, has no job prospects that don't involve being flown around the world to punch people, has a tendency to whine until he gets his way, and has a girl already living with him who will go full headcrab at the mere idea of Touma emotionally investing in any female not her.
>>136145312
Maybe if all those people would leave him alone and let him live a normal life he'd turn out to be a good life partner.
Looking forward to that fukiyose end when all the magic and espers disappear.
>>136145259
>>136145272
Yes Touma would accept any girl that confesses to him. Touma believes what everyone says as he is dense so the girl has to say they want to go out not be implied. No matter how obvious it is to everyone else Touma won't understand and thinks no one would ever actually be more than friends with him.
Based on Touma's past IB or IT will always prevent a confession from actually happening.
>>136145312
He did make compromises for one girl though
>>136145272
He never said that. He was ready to accept someone he hadn't even seen or talked to, that should tell you enough.
>>136145259
>his lack of romantic attraction
He shows no romantic attraction to anyone. He only shows some physical attraction to some girls, one of which was 10032. Try to figure out what that means.
>he always has to run away from her because she tries to electrocute him.
The last time this happened was in early/mid OT I believe. And even then he claimed it didn't bother him.
>it is still an open debate for us to decide who is the most probable girl.
You can debate that all you want, not what this is about. Mikoto is very much in the running, more so than most other girls.
>Show proof or your conjecture is also just headcanon.
Show me proof where he doesn't like her. And I don't mean romantically he doesn't show romantic interest in anyone, I mean like her as a person.
>>136145311
>Every speech he's used for explaining why Mikoto was special to him like he did to High Priest is applicable to every girl he's met.
Well that's not really true but that wasn't the point. Point is that he would accept Mikoto's confession.
Leave your Raildex waifus here, lads
I'll take them all
>>136145558
You've already got like 4 Stiyl, leave some for the rest of us you dick.
>>136145479
>A woman who looks like this comes out of the blue
New Girl: "H-Hey, Touma. I am a member of ______ and have heard so much about you. I know your favorite food, and sports, and stuff. I look at my collage of pictures of you on my wall, that were given to me by ______. Sometimes I even... touch myself to your face... I love you, Touma"
Touma: "Well, you're the first to say that. Welcome aboard, my new girlfriend!"
Not seeing it.
>>136138238
but she's not
>>136145656
You can't handle em
Neither can Kamijou, that asexual urchin-head
Stiyl takes all
>>136145676
We already have landwhales in this series no need to outsource
>>136145558
>I'll take them all
Still butthurt about the haremhater taking one of your lolis?
>>136142841
>you will never spend a Friday night with Saiai watching b-movies and having a bunch of different food delivered to match up with the movie
>tfw no one even cares about the extended delta force
>>136145558
>>136145656
Stiyl only cares for Index
>>136145739
Kamisato will pay, just you wait
Next volume has Stiyl Magnus appearing out of nowhere with Kanzaki and his three bitches in tow and Kamisato will be BTFO so fast your head will spin
STIYL TAKES ALL
>>136145556
>Show me proof where he doesn't like her. And I don't mean romantically he doesn't show romantic interest in anyone, I mean like her as a person.
Not him, but Mikoto is the only girl he has actively tried to avoid meeting under normal and everyday circumstances. This doesn't mean he doesn't like her, but he certainly would find himself unconfortable with her more than anyone else.
>>136145742
I'd rather spend a friday night bullying umidori.
>>136145556
>one of which was 10032
He thought it was Mikoto's sister, a.k.a. the one that didn't want to electrocute him constantly.
>And even then he claimed it didn't bother him.
Probably only because he can negate it if he wants
>Mikoto is very much in the running, more so than most other girls.
Of course she is in the running, we are just arguing that it doesn't seem very probable that she will be the winner.
>Show me proof where he doesn't like her.
>prove a negative
>thinking that proving a positive isn't the option
Anon, pls. I shouldn't have to give a lecture on formal logic in this thread.
>>136145735
Fair enough, my point still stands. I was mostly making the point that it was someone he had never met as well, but was also a stalker of him.
>>136145769
These images wouldnt exist were that true. It's just hard to talk about something everyone unanimously likes rather than quibble about our taste in girls
>>136145832
That just means she follows him around and catches up at the most inconvenient times, he just sort of runs into the other girls.
>>136145797
>kanzaki
Wait you're not including her in your harem are you? I'm pretty sure she's secretly taking the D from knight leader.
>>136145676
>Not seeing it.
That is what 100% the story has indicated for how Touma personally feels. Any of the girls could win the Touma Bowl by just asking.
Kamisoto's introduction to the story and NT11 makes it seem like Touma's power might be part of the reason nothing has happened and why the girls are interested in him in the first place.
>>136145832
Yeah that happened once many volumes ago and was obviously meant as a joke. Could see the anime comedy face he made when I read that part. But he certainly didn't seem to find her uncomfortable enough to take her to hawaii or on a magic bike ride.
>>136145893
No. He spotted her from a distance and decided it was best to avoid her altogether in volume 14 after he hanged out with Fukiyose.
>>136145900
>knight leader
>scoring ever
Pick one
>>136145874
I mean he had no clue who the letter was from to be fair, so the "has never met" clause probably isn't that important.
>>136145951
You haven't even touched any of your haremettes, have you?
>>136145900
Between Stiyl, Knight Leader, Touma and Tsuchimikado Kanzaki almost has her own harem.
>>136145947
>hawaii
She pushed herself onto him. He was still finding her unconfortable and clingy at times in Hawaii. In NT13 she got better, but still nothing special for him.
>>136145996
I think he touched one of the lolis shoulders or something in the movie when she was down, other than that only Komoe forcing herself on him for his cigs really.
>>136145996
Mugino pls you half-tin freak,
>can't even kill off a traitor on your team properly
>yfw Frenda is alive and well in my harem
You want to finish the job? Get through me and Innocentius first
>>136145935
>strange girl he never met
>fat as fuck
>stalks him
>talks about how she masturbates to pictures of him
>says she loves him
>he just says "alright, you win the Touma bowl!"
Well if you think that is possible, then fair enough.
>>136145969
I was simply making up a new character that he never met just to emphasize how undesirable that character should be to someone. If someone you never met turns out to be an obsessive fat stalker that masturbates to you and loves you compulsively... I would think the vast majority of people would have the same reaction. That is why I think the other anon's "first come, first served" claim is being taken to a bit of an extreme.
![[Ayako]_To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index_II_-_10_[H264_1280x720][86B63A76].mkv_000237069.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GpuisZq.jpg "[Ayako]_To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index_II_-_10_[H264_1280x720][86B63A76].mkv_000237069.jpg")
reminder that touma likes older girls with big boobs and that shipping him with younger flat girls is just forcing your own (shit) taste on him.
CUT MY LIFE IN TWO PIECES
>>136146085
>punch busty onee-san villain
>just leave her on the ground and don't use for cum doll
Kamijou is gay and can't appreciate wymen
>>136146074
You are right any normal person would not at any point do that.
Touma is not at all normal. With the HP letter he was willing to go out with whoever it was or whatever it looked like that wrote a nonsense meet letter, while Seria who is his "ideal" body type and Mikoto are both actively talking to him next to him and trying to date him.
Witness me /a/ as I burn the faggot MC of this series and take over as protagonist
>Shinyaku To aru Majutsu no Stiyl-sama
>>136145874
>He thought it was Mikoto's sister, a.k.a. the one that didn't want to electrocute him constantly.
Yes and he seemed physically attracted to her, it follows logically that he thinks Mikoto is attractive too. I don't really see your point here.
>we are just arguing that it doesn't seem very probable that she will be the winner.
No, you're argueing that he won't accept her confession when he would accept almost everyone else's, which you seem to do without any proof.
>Anon, pls. I shouldn't have to give a lecture on formal logic in this thread.
Yeah, that's not proving a negative. Not liking something, as in the opposite of liking something and not just being neutral, is an emotion. Emotions are proven to exist when they are expressed. So go on, show me where Touma expresses dislike for Mikoto. I'll just point you to NT13 for obvious evidence that he does like her. The end of OT3 is also fairly obvious evidence.
>>136146085
But I don't
Hahaa look at the faggot, he's so scared
>>136146026
>She pushed herself onto him.
Where did you get that? He was happy she was willing to help him both before going to to hawaii on the bridge and at the end at the airport. He obviously allowed her to come.
What the- he's tougher than I thought
oh fuck
OH FUCK FUCK
KANZAKI
ARRRGGGHHH KANZAKI HELP ME, IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
WHERE ARE YOU
KANZAKI ARE YOU SEEING THIS
I COULD REALLY USE SOME HELP HERE KANZAKI
AAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>136146290
>Where did you get that?
The fact it was Mikoto who involved herself in Touma's matters without being invited by anyone. Touma never rejects help. He allowed Lessar to accompany him in Russia after all, even if he also found her annoying at times.
WHY DIDN'T YOU SAVE ME
>>136146376
This is the future you chose. When will you ever learn?
>>136146503
Serves you right for breaking the treaty and buying fancy printers.
K-KAMIJOU LETS TALK THIS OVBRUAGHHHH
>>136146537
Touma doesn't involve anyone or ask for help till he does and asks both Mikoto and Index's help in NT8.
I'M SORRY I WAS JUST KIDDING
PLEASE DONT KILL MEOUAGHHH
HELP ME
HELP ME KANZAKI AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>136146177
>
Touma is not at all normal. With the HP letter he was willing to go out with whoever it was or whatever it looked like that wrote a nonsense meet letter, while Seria who is his "ideal" body type and Mikoto are both actively talking to him next to him and trying to date him.
His life might not be a normal one, but he is a pretty normal person. If you think it is likely, so be it. I simply disagree because I think that Touma, in practice and not in writing, would have limits.
>>136146204
>it follows logically that he thinks Mikoto is attractive too.
Hey, physically perhaps. But her personality makes it a lot harder to be emotionally or mentally attracted to her. She has some pretty sharp thorns from character flaws of hers.
>you're argueing that he won't accept her confession when he would accept almost everyone else's
I'm saying that I think it is less likely, and that I think he might reconsider his words in practice. What I am saying is not an absolute.
>Not liking something, as in the opposite of liking something and not just being neutral, is an emotion. Emotions are proven to exist when they are expressed. So go on, show me where Touma expresses dislike for Mikoto. I'll just point you to NT13 for obvious evidence that he does like her. The end of OT3 is also fairly obvious evidence.
All fair enough I suppose, but that isn't exactly absolute proof that he wouldn't turn her away. It is hard to quantify a probability here, so unless you have some kind of objective metric it is simply something open for debate.
(Unless you say it is 100%, in which case you admit by default that it is equally probable that:
>strange girl he never met
>fat as fuck
>stalks him
>talks about how she masturbates to pictures of him
>says she loves him
>he just says "alright, you win the Touma bowl!"
...would be equally as interesting for his romance interest as Misaka, as well as Othinus, as well as literally everyone else on Earth.)
>>136146537
>He allowed Lessar to accompany him in Russia after all
I might not remembering correctly but I'm fairly sure he told Lessar to fuck off until she had shown him he couldn't do it without her. With Mikoto he was thankful that she was there for him.
>>136146603
Exactly. Mikoto was forcing herself onto him in NT3. Allowing her to come isn't the same as involving her out of his own choice.
HEEEEELP MEEEEEE
NT15 info when?
SOMEONE HELP
ANYONE
>>136146716
Which Touma does in NT8 with both Index and Mikoto.
I DON'T WANT TO DIE
>>136146710
No, he repeatedly asked Lessar her reasons to tag along with him, and was annoyed every time she tried to seduce him. Telling her to fuck off when they were already in Russia wouldn't have made any sense.
ARRRGGGHHH
SOMEONE PLEASE
>getting beaten up by the same guy every other day
>getting your loli stolen from you by someone that hates harems
Maximum cuck.
>>136146685
>But her personality makes it a lot harder to be emotionally or mentally attracted to her. She has some pretty sharp thorns from character flaws of hers.
See, this where the headcanon gets sort of ridiculous. All the girls, except Itsuwa, are violent with him. And often for far more shit reasons that Mikoto's. But for fags like you this is only a problem when it's about Mikoto.
>I'm saying that I think it is less likely
I can't tell which one is you but the beginning of this arguement is a couple of people literally saying Mikoto would get rejected while most others wouldn't.
>that isn't exactly absolute proof that he wouldn't turn her away
There is no absolute proof for anything. Not even in science.
Touma just wants a girlfriend, he's said this many. If he's going to accept a girl he's never met or seen it is only logical and highly likely that he would also accept Mikoto, a girl he finds attractive and thinks highly of. Denying that is just stupid.
And before you get your panties in a bunch, this is true for all the girls in his harem. At least the ones older than 14.
>>136146954
He saves these threads and that's what matters. ;_;7
>>136146868
There was a whole part where she proved her worth to him to allow her to come along. Touma wanted to save index on his own and told Lessar to go back to England.
Isn't an implied Index and Mikoto end for Touma the only possibility?
Wouldn't that fit with the whole science and magic crossing paths thing?
>>136147114
>told Lessar to go back to England.
Where?
>>136147046
It's only a problem for Mikoto because Touma reacts to it the most, Index he's kind of gotten used to or just feebly says "if you could stop that would be cool", these days he dodges her. Every other girl it's the same idea. Mikoto he's never gotten used to and still yells about as loudly.
>>136147138
Based on standard LN/anime rules Index and Mikoto are strong favorites with the buildup of Mikoto getting the courage to ask Touma out being a long running theme in her favor. But the series could go in a different direction since it has never been primarily a love story .
>Touma SEEMED physically attracted to Mikoto's nicer and sweeter clone, that means he's attracted to Mikoto too!
Mikotofag logic. Try again when he shows explicit attraction towards her and not a clone.
>>136147166
>Mikoto he's never gotten used to and still yells about as loudly.
What a load of bullshit, he reacts the same way wether it's Mikoto, 10032, himegami or Fukiyose.
>>136147291
Whatever you say anon
>>136147138
The thing is Touma could count as either being Science Side or Magic depending on how you look at it. Though Index is most likely since he's mostly science and she's the title girl as well as first.
>>136147331
Oh fuck off, if that is all you can answer then you're pretty much admitting I'm right even if you're too much of a panzy to admit it.
>>136147381
Mikoto is first, Index is first that was saved. But with memory losses being introduced and how they have changed Touma in NT it is more up in the air. Figure when they get to Christmas in story timeline probably will be more clear.
>>136147410
Or that you've clearly shown you're not worth talking to and will circle in the same argument endlessly, also it's spelled pansy.
>>136147496
>and will circle in the same argument endlessly
No, you're making an assertion you can't backup and I called you out on it. That you're now saying I'm "not worth talking to" and are attacking my grammar is clear evidence that you have no leg to stand on.
>>136147478
First to have any development or plot relevance and is on the cover of volume 1.
>>136147138
Mikoto is obviously the Kuroneko, Aoyama, Hinagiku, etc, of Index. Fan-favorite but falls short on the true heroine who wins in the end, in this case Index.
>>136147579
I'm attacking your spelling simply so that you might learn from your mistakes.You're also getting the order mixed up, you're the one claiming Mikoto has a chance in hell not me.
>>136147586
Except if the friend wins in these stories they are the one to wake up the main character and it starts at home. If the new girl wins they start the story at school and introduce the friend later. These are all standard cliches that can be ignored by the writer.
>is on the cover of volume 1
Kamachi wanted to have each book have a different title and the publishers explained that isn't how you do things. So the second book would have been A Certain Magical Styil, followed by a A Certain Scientific Railgun.
>>136147638
>you're the one claiming Mikoto has a chance in hell
And I clearly backed up why. But I was clearly talking about Touma's reaction to the girl's violence. You knew that and still changed the subject agian proving you've got shit to back up your claim. It's getting pretty embarrasing for you now.
>>136147744
Wouldn't it have more likely been A Certain Deep Blood?
>>136147794
Headcanon doesn't count as evidence champ
>>136147848
Yes, I'm the one with headcanon.
Also I'm not your champ, buddy.
>>136147824
I think Kamchi mentioned that name somewhere maybe an afterwords which is why I said Stiyl.
Whatever it would have been called, Touma is the main character. But people see the title Index and if they go beyond the first volume say why is it called Index she doesn't show up that much.
>>136147917
https://desustorage.org/a/search/filename/smug%20saten/
Oh look what we have here, a shitposting Mikotofag.
>>136147917
You're the one who thinks Mikoto is winning right?
I'm not your buddy, guy.
>>136147953
None of those posts are about Mikoto.
>>136147959
I argue in this thread that Mikoto definetely is in the running and you turn that into me thinking she is winning.
Try not to make assumptions, friend. I don't even care who wins.
>>136148075
>None of those posts are about Mikoto.
Yet they make it clear that you're a Mikotofag who shitposts on Othinus.
>>136148159
I'm a birdwayfag actually and there's only 2 posts about Othinus. Not even all those posts are mine. What's your point exactly? People aren't allowed to dislike Othinus?
>>136148237
>same filename
>not all your posts
>convenient birdway cover up despite posts showing Mikotofaggotry
And those two posts are exactly shitposts, it has nothing to do with liking or disliking.
>>136148237
So will birdway be in NT15?
>>136148369
Apparantly, yes.
>>136148361
>Filenames are unique to 1 person
Those 2 posts about Othinus are min though. Looking a little closer, they're actually more about Othinusfags. I guess I hurt your little Othinusfag-feelings? Go and cry to mommy about it.
>>136148369
Hopefully no. Enough magic shit already.
>>136148495
>Filenames are unique to 1 person
Unless it's a generic 4chan name, they are. And no, it has nothing to do with that. I just found those (shit)posts ironic coming from a Mikotofag who complains when others give shit to Mikoto.
Friendly reminder that Touma would have stayed with Mikoto in NT 13 if she had the courage to give him the ring
>A few dozen centimeters.
>A small action not taken.
>That was all it took for the future to change.
>>136148495
>>136148533
Doesn't it have to have Kamisato so no way is it not going to have some magic.
>>136148659
>Implying Touma would wear it
>Implying the narration isn't just talking for the sake of atmosphere as usual
>Light speed Lightning Mikoto
>>136148609
Well I remember not posting on or even visiting 4chan on the first of Januari so I guess you're wrong.
You might also want to look up the meaning of irony. There's no double meaning in any of my posts.
>>136148659
Fuck. I mean NT 3.
>>136148739
>Implying Touma would wear it
Yes indeed. He would.
>Implying the narration isn't just talking for the sake of atmosphere as usual
Now we're in denial
>Light speed Lightning Mikoto
You bet your ass
>>136138238
Mikoto is mid tier. Not even the best Misaka.
GODDESS TIER
Othinus
Will-tan
Orsola
Itsuwa
Misaki
TOP TIER
Seria
WORST
Kanzaki
Kongou
10077
Fukiyose
10032
Saiai
HIGH TIER
Last Order
Dolly
Himegami
Yomikawa
Laura
Awaki
Saten
Misuzu
Nephtys
MID TIER
Maria
Mikoto
Sasha
Leivinia
Mugino
Arisa
Umidori
Fremea
LOW TIER
Lessar
Index
Vento
Uiharu
Rikou
Komoe
Mitsuari
SHIT TIER
Marian
Oriana
Kuroko
Hyouka
Angelene
Patricia
Niang Niang
WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
Frenda
Sherry
Haruue
Banri
All of Kamisato's harem
>>136148702
>Doesn't it have to have Kamisato
Not necesairly. Last week someone mentioned in a thread that next novel would have more Birdway. He also said there'd soon be more info about NT15 though.
>>136148769
Let me guess, Mikoto > Saints is next right?
>>136148753
I didn't word it right. I meant to say hypocritical.
>>136148791
Replace Misaki and Itsuwa with Saiai and Alfar and you've got yourself a good list
>>136148842
Nothing hypocritical either. Just because I defend Mikoto's chances doesn't mean I can't tell Othinusfags they're wrong about something.
>>136148794
If it picks up right from the end of NT15 Birdway would still be there. I think they will end up at the hospital for that to be the sanctuary that is destroyed maybe Accelerator is there too.
If it picks up a later Birdway sisters might not stick around. Either way Kamisato and Yuiitsu seems like where they left off the story focusing on.
I hope that what Kamisato said makes Touma look at his harem and actually talk to the Kamijou faction about it.
>>136148909
If you mean the post in the history there the quoted post was literally just quoting Katze from the LN, there's nothing wrong with what was being said.
>>136148806
Would you like some pepper with that salt?
>>136148909
Except they weren't even wrong about anything there. Thinking Othinus isn't a heroine is retarded.
>>136148964
Nah just confirming you're a moron
>>136148791
Fixed
>GODDESS TIER
>Mikoto
>Kuroko
>WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
>Othinus
>Will-tan
>Orsola
>Itsuwa
>Misaki
>Seria
>WORST
>Kanzaki
>Kongou
>10077
>Fukiyose
>10032
>Saiai
>Last Order
>Dolly
>Himegami
>Yomikawa
>Laura
>Awaki
>Saten
>Misuzu
>Nephtys
>Maria
>Sasha
>Leivinia
>Mugino
>Arisa
>Umidori
>Fremea
>Lessar
>Index
>Vento
>Uiharu
>Rikou
>Komoe
>Mitsuari
>Marian
>Oriana
>Hyouka
>Angelene
>Patricia
>Niang Niang
>Frenda
>Sherry
>Haruue
>Banri
>All of Kamisato's harem
>>136149079
Fuck off back to your containment board.
>>136149021
Says the faggot in denial about reality
>>136148953
Yeah and I pointed out how stupid that was and he agreed with me. The attack on othinusfags may seem unfair but if I remember, there actually was a guy in that thread who didn't think it was stupid.
>>136149004
>Thinking Othinus isn't a heroine is retarded.
She isn't, she was a villain then became the damsel in distress. She's still stuck in that role.
>>136149132
So if you can't be a heroine when you're a damsel in distress you don't consider Index a heroine?
Accelerator cannot maintain an erection.
>>136149132
She only was a damsel in NT10, and being a damsel in distress is something that has happened to most girls Touma has saved. I guess there are no heroines in Raildex. Oh wait, that's retarded.
>>136149252
That and he's blind right? Good old headcanon livening up series.
>>136149187
>you don't consider Index a heroine?
Not really. The novels don't really have many heroines. Mikoto in some and maybe Birdway and fremea.
>>136149263
she was one in NT14, in NT12 she was moral support very briefly.
>I guess there are no heroines in Raildex. Oh wait, that's retarded.
Why would that be retarded? The railgun manga doesn't have too many heroes for that matter.
>>136149348
Your definition of heroine is definitely not what we use to define girls in this series. Pretty much every recurring female character is a heroine. Kamachi calls them so.
>>136149348
>Mikoto is a heroine and Index isn't
Sasuga Mikotofags
>>136149348
The Index novel have tons of heroes/heroins. Railgun manga has less but only because the Index story has so many characters and has covered more time. Both have been using the idea that anyone can be a hero.
Othinus is still in a weird place where she could be like Accelerator and go from villain to hero. She could become a mascot character and just get left behind like Index. She could get killed like the other magic gods, or something new that hasn't happened in the series.
>>136149454
>Kamachi calls them so.
Really? When?
I just think that a heroine has to have some impact on the story with her actions, in addition to being the main female character. Index never really does anything as far as I remember. She just gives information sometimes and even in that she's often overshadowed by other characters.
Threadly reminder.
>>136149543
>something new
toumas shoulder pussy
>>136149543
She's already had more screentime than Index has past their arcs.
>>136149543
Othinus just needs to stay alongside Touma to be a heroine.
>>136149543
Well if Kamachi wants to turn her into a heroine he'll have to give her back some power. She can't do much now but shit on Touma's shoulder.
anime only here, the best girls are oriana and kanzaki. deal with it nerds.
>>136149604
Damn moonsepak
>>136149621
Yes but after the whole pointless best girl threads what is her purpose going to be in the story. She knows more about Touma or his arm compared to other people and about the magic gods who were being set up as the major force only to be seemingly gotten rid of. If they focus on the artificial heaven vs actual or the people made to magic gods instead of actual gods maybe she has a purpose.
>>136149575
>Really? When?
Old interviews. He said something about having a W heroine system, with Mikoto and Index being the main heroines for science and magic, respectively. Every girl that gets spotlight in each novel is a heroine too.
>>136149759
She has a purpose both for the knowledge you've stated she hasn't passed along yet, a morality pet for Touma and a possible break for him down the line even if the magic gods don't come back from the edge of the timeline. She's also a more conveniently portable version of Index so she has that going for her too.
Characters don't always need an obvious purpose in the story either, they can come up and go as time goes on. Birdway didn't have an obvious purpose but she came back, we still have Mikoto kicking around even though it could have been anyone in NT13, we could always just keep Othinus without a purpose if she burns through her knowledge and consoling.
>>136149837
>Every girl that gets spotlight in each novel is a heroine too.
But most of those don't actually do much in those novels. I'd call them female leads or female main character but not heroines. Mikoto in NT13 and Itsuwa during the aqua arc are clear cases of actual heroines. In those stories they actually act alongside Touma for a large part of the story instead of the usual standing in the background while Touma does shit.
>>136149949
>I'd call them
Great, and I'd call Hamazura just a random thug but Kamachi calls him a main character
>>136150029
But he doesn't call him hero, does he? Both Accelerator and Hamazura are anti-heroes at first and only morph into actual heroes with ww3. There is actually a difference between the term hero and main character. Look at Lost for instance, Jack is always considered the hero but the show switches to different main characters every week.
>>136150095
Best whitey
>>136148791
Let's start at the back of the list.
>Kuroko
Stopped reading there.
I'm calling it now Mikoto is going to end up with Kuroko. While Index is going to be running the church of England. As for Touma he is most likely to end up KIA in his last battle for the "world"
>>136149888
No they don't need an obvious purpose but if they have some purpose or goal it is how they get included in volumes and are able to be a part of the story. That was why I wrote Othinus is in a weird place and who knows what role her character has.
Mikoto besides being such a major character has to at some point confess to Touma.
Misaki at some point will be remembered by Touma.
Seria's history has to be told as to her and Touma's pre memory loss relationship.
The audience has to learn about Index's past.
Othinus we still need to learn what it was she was trying to fix by becoming a magic god in the first place. My theory is that it relates to Touma's IT power but not Touma himself. However her past is kind of like Index where it either won't be brought up or is so tied with the endgame whatever Aleister is trying to do that it can't be really explored at this point in the story.
>>136150095
No but he calls the girls heroines is the point I was making, that it doesn't really matter what you or I think should count as a main character (where is Accelrator Kamachi) or a heroine (Index hasn't done shit Kamachi) it still is what it is.
>>136149949
>>136150095
Heroine is synonym for female lead in Japan. The term actually comes from your available choices when playing a VN; raising flags with a heroine and so on, which is similar to what Touma does with the girls. A girl does not need to be useful in battle to be considered a heroine, just having the main focus is enough. Index is plenty useful as support character. In Othinus' case, it happens right after she stops being a villain.
>>136150155
>Mikoto besides being such a major character has to at some point confess to Touma.
Uh no she doesn't.
>Misaki at some point will be remembered by Touma.
Misaki's past was already explored, she doesn't need to be remembered even if she might
>Seria's history has to be told as to her and Touma's pre memory loss relationship.
This I'll grant you, we have to see more of Seria and her past with him I think.
>Othinus we still need to learn what it was she was trying to fix by becoming a magic god in the first place.
She wanted to go home/not live in a world so different from her old one/find someone who understood her. It's why she gave up her magic god powers later to give Touma back his world.
>>136150189
Well I'm not japanese and there isn't a raildex vn (but maybe it should have one) so I can use the term as it's viewed in the west.
>>136150267
Besides the fact that the author uses it another way sure
>>136150267
We have been calling the girls heroines since ages ago, though.
>>136150153
Mikoto will die saving Touma and her dying wish will be for Touma to be happy. Kuroko, being the person to hear that wish, will understand and will marry Touma to make sure he's happy. They will name their first child Mikoto.
>>136150220
For Mikoto yes this has to happen. I'm not saying things will go well or badly for Mikoto but she does have to work up the courage to tell her feelings to Touma and will at some point do this. This has way too much emotional impact that no writer would just not follow this to the emotional end.
>Misaki's past was already explored, she doesn't need to be remembered even if she might
Misaki's past was explored but you do not write she will keep hoping for a miracle in this kind of work where miracles keep happening and leave a character hanging. It is the Chekhov's gun of story telling. Again her remembering does not mean romantic ending or happy couple just Misaki will be able to stay in Touma's memory.
>She wanted to go home/not live in a world so different from her old one
Yes Othinus said that she no longer knew what had changed with the world. Touma's imagine breaker is a way for the magic gods to keep a handle on reality as they alter it. Crowley discovered something about the world magic gods how they worked and rejected it. These are all related and why I didn't think Othinus would die. However with the other magic gods deaths i'm not sure what her fate will end up being. As learning the truth about the world may or may not need her to be alive.
>>136150345
If the author jumped off a cliff and said he was saving the world as he did so, would you repeat it?
Nobody would seriously call Index a heroine.
Also just did a quick search of the first 6 novels and nowhere are any of the girls referred to as heroines, afterword included.
>>136150422
Having Mikoto constantly work up the courage to confess to Touma and Misaki hope for a miracle is just Kamachi's way to stringing them along for the harem you do realize? There's no guarantee it will be resolved before the series ends especially since this isn't primarily a romantic series. Touma could easily die or have the series be open ended.
>>136150447
Index is the main heroine. That's just common knowledge.
>>136150401
That would never happen!
>219/82/30
>>136150498
>xpostst/yposters
You forgotthe "sasuga raildex fans"
>>136150447
>If the author jumped off a cliff and said he was saving the world as he did so, would you repeat it?
No, but if the author uses certain terms for his characters and series it's to the benefit of everyone if I want to discuss it to use the same terms. I gain nothing from insisting on calling the magicians "magus", Magic Gods "Demon Gods" or Imagine Breaker "Negater" when there are already terms set out by the author (or js06 for MGs) except to confuse everyone for my own autism.
>>136150529
Those are terms he came up. Heroine has a clearly defined meaning, he doesn't get to mess with that. Last novel he called Belgium a northern european country when it is considered a western european country. I'm not going to start calling it a northern european country because my autism requires to always listen to nips.
>>136150447
Volume 1
>Kamijou sighed again. If the alternative was being stuck at a desk in that sauna-like classroom with no air conditioning, charging into a fantasy of swords and magic may have been better. And he even had a cute, though difficult to say beautiful, heroine to go with it.
Volume 2
>To be blunt, Aureolus Izzard is a failed version of Kamijou Touma. When I was writing, I thought that if Kamijou Touma failed in the first volume, he would have become such a person. The reason I created Himegami was also to create a tragic girl who could never be the heroine.
>As the story went on, the murderous atmosphere became extremely intense. However, what's different is that in the first volume, even if they were enemies, at least they would listen to the main character before fighting. However, in this volume, even the second heroine didn’t like to listen too much, let alone the Big Bad.
Note the emphasis here with "could never be the heroine", obviously alluding to Index who is the heroine.
Volume 5, part of Aogami's famous rant
>Aogami Pierce on the other side even started to state loudly, “Ha, you’re too naïve, Kami-yan. I have a wide range of acceptance when it comes to women: not just heroines that fall from the sky
Volume 6 afterword
>It's the 6th volume already. The protagonist, heroine, antagonist, ending, and the story behind the stage; there's a lot of descriptions here that are slightly different from the previous volumes. As for what changed, I'll like the readers to understand it as they read it.
Volume 18 afterword
>Brave Third Princess Villian who was oppressed by her sisters is especially like the stereotypical heroine from a picture book.
Volume 19, Mugino to Hamazura/Rikou
>“What? Are you trying to turn yourself into some kind of tragic heroine? You aren’t just some princess. You have the power to fight.”
>>136150613
At least there's only one of you
>>136150459
No too much pen ink has been wasted for Kamchi to not at some point before or during the series end address this. Having Mikoto be a possible romantic character since OT1 and they have been building up Mikoto admitting she likes Touma ever since OT3. Yes this is stringing along the story but this is where these kinds of stories also end up. I'm sure you must have read or seen other works of fiction to at least see that unless the series is suddenly cancelled resolved or not Mikoto will say she loves Touma even if it ends up being in the same way Index did and afterwords going nowhere.
Misaki if she didn't say she was hoping for a miracle and they had a movie about miracles and how they do exist, that she as a character also needs some kind of closure since now they have Misaki and Mikoto fighting about Christmas means something will end up happening.Hopefully I am wrong but don't say you don't think they will say it is a Christmas Miracle. Before everything comes crashing down.
>>136138238
>not liking sex voice more
>>136144673
Etzali is the only character pathetic enough for me to self insert as so I'd be ok with that.
>>136150743
It's exactly because I've read other works that I know open endings are a thing anon, especially in a series where romance isn't the end goal. Mikoto *might* confess before the series ends and Misaki *might* get Touma to remember her, but they're certainly not requirements, Misaki especially so.
>>136150700
>volume 1
Touma's fantasy, situation is hypothetical
>volume 2
In my copy says protagonist instead of heroine.
>volume 5
Not refering to one of the characters.
>volume6
Who is he even talking about here? Kazakiri? She could be a heroine in that novel, I hardly remember any part of it.
And I didn't comment on the other novels but in those 2 examples he isn't referring to any character as a heroine.
>>136146085
>thinking Touma will get what he wants
>>136138238
This hair annoys me...
>>136150932
>Missing the point this hard
He's talking about how the word heroine is used you dense twit
I thought eyepatch girl was supposed to be best
>>136150998
nigga dont even
>>136150932
Volumes 1 and 2 have Index called a heroine both in-verse and by the author. Nice denial though.
>>136150998
Don't do it senpai
>>136150998
>>136150998
I dare you anon
>>136151021
She is. Shame animefags will never appreciate her.
>>136150998
You monster
>>136150998
>>136151008
I say he never refers to the girls as heroines,he then starts blabbing about situations of characters that are similar to situations of story heroines and I'm missing the point. You're an idiot.
>>136150903
Yes open endings are a thing. Who Touma ends up with if he is alive are things that could be left open but if Mikoto will confess isn't. Romance isn't the ending or major point of the series but it is a part of it. The end of the series is about Aleister so when that is taken care of unless he ends up not being the final "boss,architect of everything" the story could end. But you really have to be blind to not see that romance is a part of the series both in railgun and index who likes who is a major story and selling point for readers.
>>136150998
>>136138238
The only reason why Kuroko isn't winning at everything is because Misaka has been the designated future winner of the Indexbowl since before publication.
That's much better.
>>136151174
Give up Gunha it's not happening
>>136151181
Romance is a small part of the story sure. No part of that means Mikoto is required to confess, she could easily just be used to string fans along the whole time. It's not a main part of the series just a side one and insisting on top of that Misaki will also be remembered outs you as just being a shipper with boundless optimism rather than sense.
>this series will never be remembered for aesthetically pleasing and intense battles rather than romance bullshit
>>136151152
>he never refers to the girls as heroines
He does here though
>The reason I created Himegami was also to create a tragic girl who could never be the heroine.
>However, in this volume, even the second heroine didn’t like to listen too much, let alone the Big Bad.
>The protagonist, heroine, antagonist, ending, and the story behind the stage;
Kamachi even calls Rensa a heroine.
>and even an artificial heroine who can freely lead around all of the heroes. …I
>>136151260
You actually did it you absolute madman
>>136151260
