Honestly, which of the two Saiyans would win?
My money is on Goku.
Vegeta only needs to sneak attack Goku.
>>135364304
Goku's by far the bigger genius in combat. Matching Goku's power isn't enough.
>>135364363
>dropping the nuke on the first post
man
>>135364420
see >>135364363
Vegeta is more of a genius. He was the one who came up with the technique on how to defeat Buu.
>>135364420
And yet Goku has never beaten Vegeta 1v1
>>135364363
Dragon Ball did it better.
Laser should've distracted Goku to leave him open for Frieza at least.
>>135364420
Goku ofc
>>135364304
>>135364363
Pride wouldn't let him though, He has knocked Goku before when he let down his guard and he didn't feel anything.
The only way he can be satisfied is by outright defeating him in a fair fight.
>>135364304
Goku hasn't won a single 1 on 1 with Vegeta.
>>135364555
Post the truth anon.
>>135364585
Neither did Vegeta.
>>135364528
Neither the opposite. Vegeta only bested him in the first fight because of the Oozaru transformation. Their second fight was a tie, then Vegeta sneak attacked Goku after they had already called the battle off.
>>135364616
What about the time he went apeshit and broke all of his bones?
>>135364528
>>135364585
literally doesn't matter
goku was stronger by the end of the frieza saga
goku was stronger by the end of the cell saga
goku was stronger by the end of the buu saga
>>135364585
>>135364616
STALE MATE
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This was one of the best fights in the entire series.
But Goku would most likely win now.
>>135364667
That was Goku + Krillin + Gohan + Yajirobe vs Vegeta. And Vegeta lost.
>>135364510
>Vegeta
>more of a genius
>deciding not to allow Mystic Gohan & Gotenks to help
That's not even counting Goku's fights with Tien & Frieza.
>>135364304
At the moment Vegeta should still be stronger according to the Manga and Anime.
>>135364717
There is literally no way for Goku to gain the upperhand, Vegeta has seen all of his techniques at work.
>>135364737
Meh Kid Buu would have started absorbing people
if so many high tier people were around.
>>135364510
>let the androids wake up, I'll take 'em all on, lemme at 'em, lemme at 'em!
Vegeta has been training with Whis longer than Goku so I would say that he is stronger for now.
>>135364803
Possibly but Kid Buu didn't exactly attempt to absorb Goku & isn't nearly as cunning as Super Buu.
>>135364745
Bullshit. Anime is barely canon, and according the the true canon ie the movies, Goku and Vegeta are equal.
>>135364776
That doesn't mean his techniques wouldn't work. Even if you know someone can move instantly, that doesn't mean you can stop them. Goku can instant transmission Vegeta into oblivion if he wanted to, damn, look at the fight between Meta Cooler and Super Saiyan Goku. It's non-canon sure, but it pretty much sums up how Vegeta would feel if Goku used Instant transmission the entire fight.
Goku's techniques > Vegeta's.
>>135364846
That's non-canon. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but Dragon Ball Super the show is not canon. Akira Toriyama isn't writing that shit, Toei is handling that. AT only wrote the movies.
>>135364814
>implying Goku isn't the same way
Vegeta should edge it out imo.
>>135364965
Nah, Goku.
Is story time anon here?
>>135364737
Didn't it work? Didn't using a Spirit Bomb with the power of the entire world population work?
More importantly.
Kid Buu fused with Perfect Cell vs Gogeta.
Who wins?
>>135364814
>gives Cell a senzu bean
Bigger blunder.
>>135365020
this will never not be hysterical
>>135365020
>Kid Buu fused with Perfect Cell
Godku could beat this by himself now.
>that webm
What happened?
>>135365020
M12 Gogeta? Shit bro, that's hard. Gogeta practically pimped out Super Janemba, and he's probably on par with Super Buu or the sorts, so I mean based on strength the Buu would probably win.
But if Gogeta used his finisher then Buu would die. His move is just blatantly overpowered for no reason whatsoever.
>>135365016
It worked but barely. If it weren't for that 3rd wish then it would have failed.
>>135365020
Fucking Precure
>>135365115
fucking hate how they keep fucking up Gohan so badly.
Its sad, latest manga was the final nail on any chance Gohan will ever be relevant again.
>>135365020
SSGSS Golden Cell wins
Reminder
>>135365245
>final nail on any chance Gohan will ever be relevant again.
It's sad that this is true. Gohan was pretty cool.
>>135365291
>SSG
>Pure heart
>Cell
>Gohan
How do you become a meme, yet you were once like this?
>>135365349
He's pure perfection. That's all the purity you need.
>Gohanfags ruining another thread
>>135365472
>Gohanfags
>Gotenks is way cooler
/Thread saved
>>135365556
>Cooler
You've done it now.
>>135365556
After Gotenks pulled that shit off with those ghost clones. Into the trash he went.
>>135365046
He knew that gohan was way more powerful than Cell though.
>>135364568
Vegeta already lost his pride and he already conceded that on a fair one-on-one battle, Goku smokes him.
>>135365404
>>135365556
>Dragon Ball official anime artwork
Where can I find more of these?
>>135365750
>>135365211
It worked perfectly because they were able to avoid Buu's absorption shenanigans.
>>135365689
So you're giving him a pass while at the same time berating Vegeta for essentially doing the same thing?
>>135365817
vegeta had no idea how strong perfect cell would be
>>135365904
Goku risked the life of his son by letting Cell do zenkai.
Munch on Goku's monkey balls more.
>>135365970
I'm not even that guy, Vegeta just took a bigger risk
>>135366028
Goku took a bigger risk because it actually made Cell stronger by zenkai and without an Android head for Cell to crush, they would've all died.
>>135366112
Cell didn't get a zenkai there, he was not even close to being low on power and much less "close to death".
>>135365556
Now no one is allowed to be relevant, Gotenks isnt allowed to go SSJ3.
>>135365472
Legit question, brazilian, dont you have a life outside of shitpost? Is Brazil truly this shitty?
>>135366321
>Cell didn't get a zenkai there
He regained his full power by taking that bean and listen to yourself.
You're actually justifying the stupid thing Goku did while berating Vegeta for doing the exact same thing and somehow saying what he did was worse than Goku.
>>135366539
I ain't saying nothing about Goku stupid ass choices.
Cell didn't get a zenkai that's is fact, in fact he gets a zenkai later and it's shown clearly to us the readers, and no he didn't get an invisible zenkai.
You get a zenkai close to the death, not for any recovery, and post freeza we never saw zenkai again except in that case for Cell post suicide.
>>135364304
Both the times Goku fought Vegeta he lost.
Also >>135364363
Goku would win. How is this even up for discussion?
>>135366909
>Both the times Goku fought Vegeta he lost.
Vegeta didn't win either.
>>135366857
>I ain't saying nothing about Goku stupid ass choices.
I accept your concession.
>>135367023
see >>135366909
>>135366539
Not the other guy you were arguing with, but:
Letting the Androids out was on both Goku and Vegeta, since they both decided it was a good idea to let Dr. Gero live; Piccolo is also to blame for not speaking up and just assuming they were going to fight anyway. The only voice of reason was Bulma and even Tenshinhan and Kuririn just rolled with it, while Gohan just followed Goku and Piccolo's madness.
Goku giving Cell a senzu is stupid, but pales in comparison to Vegeta letting Cell become perfect, after seeing what the fuck Dr. Gero and the Androids did; this is also with Vegeta being aware that Cell has Piccolo's, Freeza's, Goku's, King Kold's and his own cells and top of being cunning and resourceful as fuck and this if you completely ignoring the hell Piccolo and the humans went through chasing first form Cell around before absorbing either of the cyborbs siblings.
No amount of mental gymnastics will refute this, other than giving Kuririn part of the blame for not blowing 18 up, instead of thinking with his heart/dick.
What's worse is that you're harping on Cell getting a zenkai from the senzu, when nothing of the sort happened. He was only healed, which didn't matter because Gohan ended up refusing to fight Cell no matter what.
It wasn't until he was reduced to a single lump after blowing up that he got a zenkai, which not only remembered his perfect form, minus 18, but boosted him to SSJ2 levels.
>>135366909
>Both the times Goku fought Vegeta he lost.
And Vegeta considers both encounters losses since he was either getting his life spared by Goku or cleaning up his own fuck up.
Fuck outta here with that Vegeta is undefeated against Goku meme.
GOKU VS VEGETA 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEe0zN_RaX0
GOKU VS VEGETA 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSL-pLKi9Fk
Choose your favorite version
>>135366909
>Both the times Goku fought Vegeta he lost.
Which is irrelevant to the fact that Vegeta considers both battles losses.
>>135367238
>he was either getting his life spared by Goku
Irrelevant. The one who beat him there is Yajirobe and Gohan, not Goku.
>>135367179
>Letting the Androids out was on both Goku and Vegeta
So using the argument that >>135364814 makes Vegeta a non-genius in battle is moot.
Thanks anon.
>>135367309
>The one who beat him there is Yajirobe and Gohan,
Irrelevant. Vegeta pegs it as a loss due to Goku sparing his life.
>>135367086
He won the second time.
>>135367366
>Irrelevant.
Very relevant since it wasn't Goku who beat him.
Undefeated, baby, Also: >>135364363
>>135367119
Not the same anon your were arguing before, so yeah we obviously agree Goku wanting the fight to be "fair" was completely stupid.
>>135364304
Forget Goku, what about Pickle Man vs. Vegeta?
>>135367253
The 90s one looks more brutal so that one.
>>135367366
>Vegeta considers something nonsensical due to his wounded pride...therefore despite all evidence outside that his opinion warps reality
Fact is Goku lost end of story.
>>135367548
Forgot pic.
>>135367436
>He won the second time.
He called the fight off and went fought alone because he felt guilty about literally leaving Goku's son, who previously saved his life, to die fighting a monster both he and Goku assumed wasn't going to be a big deal, based solely on Babidi, Dabura and that chucklefuck Kaioushin all being worthless shitters compared to them.
>>135367584
>Fact is Goku lost end of story.
Fact is Vegeta counts it as a loss. Your input doesn't matter, memester.
>>135367584
In other words, Vegeta manned up and accepted as a loss.
Yeah. I pointed that out already.
Saitama
>>135367587
Vegeta would win of course, he is way beyond Piccolo now.
At equal power levels, i'll give it to the Doctor he has more skill and can regen.
>>135367444
>Not the same anon your were arguing before, so yeah we obviously agree Goku wanting the fight to be "fair" was completely stupid.
Goku lusting for fair fights is just about as fucking dumb as Vegeta letting his opponents power up for the sake of his arrogance and pride.
Freeza was correct in wanting to exterminate the saiyans. 'Fucking monkeys are too stupid for their own good.
>>135367692
>Not even a planet buster
Nah he sucks.
>>135364363
this desu senpai
>>135365303
Even during his crowning moment of badassery he's still a little crybaby bitch.
>>135367709
The "more skill" is debatable as Vegeta was a capable warrior since he was a toddler.
>>135364510
How is Vegeta more of a genius? He has like 2 fucking techniques in his arsenal of moves.
>Goku is a low class saiyan which means it's harder for him to succeed over Vegeta
>Goku has more techniques
>Goku knows how to train better than Vegeta as proven in the Cell saga
>>135367806
>implying
He accidentally the moon just by jumping.
>>135367942
>How is Vegeta more of a genius?
He figured out how to defeat Buu while Goku's solution to the dilemma is to fight him until he doesn't have power anymore.
I wish Piccolo would return to being based as fuck. Ironically, him turning to good made him useless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heqvwbMuzuM
>>135367991
>to fight him until he doesn't have power anymore.
When did that not work?
>>135367991
So he came up with a way to use the Dragon Balls?
Will DBS have any cool insert songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbFoWCKvM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MIIgWu_5Ds
>>135368426
More like how DBZ can even compete?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EomNscL69RU
>>135364304
>reminder that vegeta was only angry because goku surpassed his power and not because he "lost"
>>135368961
Well, duh, when a man has bigger dick than you you don't care if he pounds better.
>>135367179
>remembered his perfect form
Is this the basis of Goku keeping his god powers?
>SSJ2 levels
I thought he was USSJ minus the speed penalty?
>>135369066
That's nigger logic.