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If he kicked him anywhere else other than the moon, Saitama would've kept flying to space until he ran out of air (since he can't breathe in space).
>>135190568
Pretty much.
>>135190568
or he could have punched behind him and that would have pushed him back to earth? silly plebs
>>135190568
he can punch himself to earth
Or if he would have just one punched him from the get go we wouldn't have a cool fight
If he launches his suit off with enough force the recoil will send him back to earth.
>>135190568
Except all he would have to do is hurl one of his gloves or boots in the opposite direction of earth and he would have been fine.
Nigga do you even physics?
>>135192633
And considering Saitama is relatively light but monstrously strong it would easily work.
>>135192633
He doesn't even have to do that. Considering his blows carry enough force to vaporize mountains miles away he could probably just throw a straight punch at nothing. Or maybe "swim" towards earth. Hell, he could probably even sneeze or fart his way back.
>>135192943
>he could probably just throw a straight punch at nothing
That would do exactly nothing.
Do you think Garou was the legendary fighter Boros was supposed to fight on equal terms and Saitama was just at the wrong place?
>>135192994
Engines in space push against nothing an they still work. Force is energy and energy is motion. Finish high school first, kid.
>>135193272
Zero friction. Whatever force his punch generated would be cancelled by bringing his arm to a halt. He'd have to launch some part of his total mass in another direction to have any effect in space.
>>135193272
They don't push against nothing, they expel matter behind them.
>>135193272
You apparently don't know how rocket engines work. They don't push against nothing. They shoot out gas so that the reactive force pushes the rocket forward.
>>135192994
It would, because hes that powerful.
>>135193272
The center of mass of Saitama + suit moves with constant velocity as long as there are no forces. Clearly throwing a punch is not an external force if it hits nothing. If Saitama throws a glove in the opposite direction to earth, the center of mass frame moves with the same velocity relative to the earth, but Saitama and the glove will move with equal and opposite momentum in the center of mass frame. If the velocity of Saitama in the center of mass frame exceeds the velocity of the center of mass frame relative to the earth, then he's saved.
Considering how fast Saitama made it to the moon, and that he didn't even react at all until hitting the moon, what if he ended up getting launched so far away from earth so quickly that he couldn't tell which direction earth was? If he didn't pass closely by any objects he might not even know which direction he was moving. And if he miscalculates and doesn't go directly backwards he could end up missing the earth
>>135191714
>>135192406
Punch at what? Space is empty.
>>135192943
Swim towards what? If the moon wasn't there, he'd be swimming all the way to Jupiter.
>>135195472
His durability isn't in question here. He can't breathe in space and if the moon wasn't there, he'd die.
>>135195472
He could calculate his relative velocity based on stellar parallaxes and calculate a reverse direction #ez.
>>135195595
He could just take off a glove then throw it in the opposite direction with enough force that the counter-force generated would catapult him back to earth.
>>135190568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25C4NQ5sFQ
Had the same thought.
>>135195499
Not quite, if you impart enough velocity to the very few particles hanging about it should be possible to move in the opposite direction
/a/ tries to do physics and fails the thread.
>>135193018
Either Garou or Blast
>>135195658
>>135195788
Even still Saitama is not that smart and it's unknown if his glove has that much mass to give him that much thrust if the throws it
Even still he would die from no oxygen using it to punch his way back to earth if he is really far away.
>>135195790
>Punchfags try to do physics
fyp
All of this Saitam doing physics to reverse his momentum is not in character of Saitama at all.
He's just a failed salaryman, at that.
There is no limit to how long Saitama can hold his breath
Are you fucking idiots serious? You are trying to add logic to a show where a guy became the strongest in the universe using regular strength training. Seriously?
>>135195849
>Saitama would still die becuz hes 2 dum to do it
Can we please keep assumptions out of this. He was smart enough to test the gravity on the moon before jumping back to earth, he's smart enough to figure that he should create a counter-force to send himself back to earth when in empty space.
>>135195849
>it's unknown if his glove has that much mass to give him that much thrust if the throws it
easy fix, just take off the glove and punch it normally
>>135195658
You say that but do you honestly think Saitama would do that at a speed that knocked him into space in seconds.
>>135195991
Nobody pumps the batmobiles tires .jpg
It's still fun to discuss things like that sometimes though
>>135196064
>>135196020
He only figured this out after landing on the moon.
If he didn't hit the moon and was traveling at that speed, he wouldn't punch his cape. He isn't that smart.
The Hulk is not smart but is smart enough to do the same Saitama did around the same time.
>>135195962
This.
>>135195849
>>135195595
>>135190568
If you fucks would read the webcomic or manga, you would see that Saitama doesn't need to breathe at all. Once he gets on the moon, he says something like "holding my breathe is something I need to do, right?" as if it's a second thought. He only held his breath because he thought he should, and he already survived on the moon several seconds with his mouth agape, he'd probably lose all the oxygen he'd be holding in by that time.
Haven't thought of that yeah he would have died in that situation but if saitama was serious he could have just dodged all of boros's attacks. I think saitama breaking his limiter and therefore having no limits only really pertains to power he still seems to be a normal human, so people much weaker than him could kill him if they were to launch him into space.
You can't just "hold your breath" in space. All the gas in your body would exit and evaporate instantly through your pores.
>>135196168
>If you fucks would read the webcomic or manga, you would see that Saitama doesn't need to breathe at all
see >>135196020
>Can we please keep assumptions out of this.
> Saitama barely notices a kick that propels him with relativistic velocity into the moon
What I don't get is why the crater on impact with the moon was so small. I'll buy the ship's orb dampening Saitama's impact, as it has to be able to travel through space. That can be handwaved away into the realm of superscience. But the moon doesn't exactly deal with lightspeed impacts of anything.
Even though Saitama has no limiter and can't be harmed, being kicked into the moon should have still shattered it into a gazillion pieces.
>>135190568
Saitama didn't need to take a single one of those blows. The fact that it was aimed at the moon was the reason why he was okay with taking it.
If Boros knocked him into space not aiming at the moon then yeah, One Punch Man is One Dead Man.
>>135196168
You have been all over the place damage controlling but you don't understand him giving any type of effort proves he is not limitless and he is not unbeatable and we are not even talking about how strong he is!
We are talking about a what if! Chill out.
>>135195595
/Thread
>>135191714
>i dunno how to physics lol
That's not how that works.
ITT: We trigger punchfags
He was going incredibly fast and would have ceased losing speed past the atmosphere. He would have hit something, and then still been able to propel himself back because he's goddamn Saitama.
ITT we try to defeat the undefeatable yet again ie. plot armor.
>>135196796
>would have ceased losing speed past the atmosphere.
He still had momentum beyond the atmosphere, which means he could've gone past the moon all the way to the Milky Way.
Boros could've won. Deal with it.
>>135196290
>being kicked into the moon should have still shattered it into a gazillion pieces.
Nope. 30 trillion megatons of explosives is needed to destroy the moon. Saitama's moon landing didn't even give out a fraction of that power.
>>135190568
>>135196796
Yes well if Saitama tried from the beginning Boros would not be able to land that punch and would've lost from the beginning. Why is there a physics discussion on this when we all knew Saitama wasn't trying.
>>135190568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMRYsm6qdrE
>>135197262
>Yes well if Saitama tried from the beginning Boros would not be able to land that punch and would've lost from the beginning
But since he didn't, if Boros had kicked him without the moon getting in the way, Saitama would've died.
OK...
saitama uses all of his energy to fly through space...
>>135197364
Of course, but that's a stupid argument
It's like saying Sonic could have beaten Saitama if Saitama just let Sonic throw him in the ocean and drown him or something
So if Saitama has sex and thrusts his dick in a girl, would it break her in half? Remember the fly scene?
>>135197729
>Of course, but that's a stupid argument
Not really. This isn't an argument of who's stronger, it's a "What if" of if Boros kicked Saitama anywhere else other than the moon, he would've run out of air and died in space.
>>135197039
>Master Roshi is stronger than Saitama
>>135198167
But Boros was the one who did that kick, not Saitama
>>135198247
Saitama did the moon jump back, which barely fazed the moon.
>>135198167
It's an established fact that celestial bodies in the DB/Z universe are absurdly fragile.
The destructive power that Roshi shows during his fights is nowhere near close to comparable to what you'd need to destroy something like the Moon. This is applicable to pretty much every other fighter too.
>>135198899
>It's an established fact
Where? [Citation Needed]
>>135198996
When a character that can blow up the Moon gets impressed when another blows up a city then it is established that later act is more impressive than the first.
>>135199182
So no citation? No official sources that state that the moon in DB is more fragile than our moon? Just rampant speculation on your part so that you can say, "Nu-uh, Saitama is stronger than Roshi or any Dragon Ball charater!" even though Saitama doesn't have universe-ending punches?
>>135199253
Oh yeah let me get my official citation of multi series powerlevel wanking over at the official Japanese convention of manga authors.
>>135199303
>no citation
I accept your concession. Saitama is weaker than Master Roshi.
>>135193272
go back to school, kid.
>>135196222
He has strong pores
Saitama is a joke character, if he were shot into space then the author would've come up with something silly to have him return to Earth again.
>Saitama's moon jump barely fazed the moon.
Meanwhile in Toriko
>>135199253
>even though Saitama doesn't have universe-ending punches
And how do you know this?
>>135202720
so.... i heard toriko is about cooking?
>>135202783
By his feats.
By what he actually accomplished versus your speculation.
>>135202943
oh god not this faggot again.
So when will we get a hentai parody of this that does everything the same, except instead of fighting it's sex?
>One Pump Man
>Weird Taitama trained to become amazing in bed
>Wound up becoming so good that he'd ruin any woman he tried to bed in one thrust
>Taitama left unsatisfied while the woman is driven insane by a constant wave of orgasms
>He goes about trying to find a woman he can go head to clam with in the bedroom fully
>gets into monster girl shit, maybe even still fucking evil for justice
>the boros fight is basically the same thing only Boros is an alien dominatrix
>she punches him in the nuts to the moon or something. Not sure how a dom would send a guy flying upwards, only downwards.
>>135202943
Saitama is always holding back, even against Boros he was still holding back, you don't know whether or not he has universe-ending punches, that's pure speculation.
>>135190568
I want to see, what would happen if Saitama get thrown to the sun, that would settle who is the strongest being in the multiverse.
>>135203989
>sun
>being
Ran the numbers.
Assuming a mass of 65kg, Saitama's three-second journey to the moon gives him a velocity of .43c and the kinetic energy of Krakatoa.
In order to apply the same kinetic energy to a 6-gram glove and start propelling himself back to Earth, he'd have to throw the glove at so close to the speed of light that WolframAlpha refuses to give a percentage and just rounds up.
But I believe in the One Punch Man, because he kills everything in one punch, and stopping in space is called "killing your velocity," so naturally it should only take one punch to stop, and at most one more to reverse course and return to Earth.
>>135202720
difference is saitama was casual while this guy was not
>>135195472
He managed to land on on earth at a fraction of lightspeed and with precision of a few hundred meters. As strong as Saitama is the degree of control he has over his power is phenomenal. ( and it makes sense considering all his fights require him to control himself )
Anyway as long as he has a footing he's sure to land back on earth.
>>135196290
I doubt a 70kg object could destroy the moon no matter how fast it went.
>>135204381
>while this guy was not
False, this was casual.
>What if this character who is pretty much plot armour incarnate had the plot going against him for once.
This is a retarded line of thought. Saitama parodies power level yet you idiots will endlessly use him in power level scenarios. For what purpose?
>>135204492
Please refer to >>135203254
>>135204539
no it was not atleast not as casual as saitama.
besides saitama can punch a hole in that guy
So
Saitama vs Obélix
Who wins ?
We don't know the upper bound of Saitama's power, so we can only use the lower bound.
Which is his cloud splitting feat at the end of the Boros fight.
Space is not a total vacuum. I think sustained consecutive serious punches could have killed and reversed his momentum.
>>135204603
>not atleast not as casual as saitama.not atleast not as casual as saitama.
Dude was running out of air, it wasn't casual.
>besides saitama can punch a hole in that guy
Nope, Don shits on Saitama. Universe level threat.
>>135204700
yeah sure,it would be the same as with boros,eventually he would be in pieces,so please don't wank toriko
,we have seen their limits(toriko Characters)
>>135204774
>Nope, Don shits on Saitama. Universe level threat.
Come back when he's at least a planet buster
>>135195788
proof that /a/ is retarded
Propellants in space don't push off the tiny amount of particles floating around but push off the propellant itself.
>>135195595
nuh uh, he did his push ups
>>135193272
engines actually dont work in a space, propulsion out of orbit is impossible and nasa has spent billions keeping you in this lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX_QsRJx1J4
>>135196582
I don't know why you're trying to bring up physics in an anime like this in the first place
Obviously there's no possible way Saitama's small body can produce enough force that is produced from one of his serious punches. There's no way he's able to stay at a complete standstill without the force of the punch demolishing the ground below and around him either, he should either be sent flying or have some serious support stands dug deep into the ground to hold him in place.
>>135204853
proof that most OPMfags are retarded
ftfy
>>135204824
if don can't punch toriko to pieces then he can't damage saiatma whatsoever
>>135196897
>all the way to Milky Way
Anon, we're in the milky way right now
Guys, made my mind to read the webcomic. Where can I read it? Wanna see how hype the members of MA are.
And besides, been reading a theory about Psykos seeing something evil within humanity which snapped her. I guess this has something to do with Madam Shibabawa's prophecy?
>>135204934
Saitama can't do shit to Don based on his current feats. Don shits on Saitama.
>>135199253
There is no official source in OPM that says Saitama can actually defeat anything in one punch, that's only speculation on part of the characters and audience.
>>135202943
>Planets are weak in DBZ
"How do you know?"
>speculation and evidence
"LOL, Citation needed!!!!"
>You don't know that Saitama has a universe-ending punch
"Sure I do"
>How?
"By his feats. Speculation and evidence."
>>135205000
nice try,you dodged what i said,i said that if don can't punch toriko to pieces then he cannot damage saitama whatsoever
>>135190568
>Boros Should've Beat Saitama
This is all under the assumption that Boros wanted to beat Saitama
He suffered from Goku syndrome, he wanted a clean fair fight at the top of both of their abilities, if anyone wanted to beat anyone they would just send them to space while disabling anything that would allow them to fly back to earth
But no, Boros really just wanted to go all out and fight
Boros wouldn't have beaten Saitama because that's not the kind of character he was
>>135205096
>Saitama can't do shit to Don based on his current feats. Don shits on Saitama.
>>135205109
To be fair he was willing to use a move that would not only wipe out the target, but the planet as well.
And we can assume the attack would've killed Boros from recoil as well. He wanted Saitama dead
>>135204584
This.
Powerlevel threads regarding OPM are the dumbest shit this board has ever embraced, it is a comedy manga about a guy who can literally win ANY fight with one punch. Feats and powerlevels do not apply. He will have as much speed and endurance and maneuverability as it takes to survive against any opponent long enough for the buildup to reach its apex, before delivering the titular punch.
If ONE/Murata did a crossover with the guy who wrote Demonbane, and they fought, Demonbane would sense how powerful Saitama's punch would be and dodge out of the way rather than take the force of it.
And retards would actually take that as a "feat" and use it to compare Saitama to other characters in other fictional universes with other rules.
>>135204669
Saitama wins in one punch, kill yourself with one bullet.
>>135205155
wow,you seriously are denying the fact that don can't punch toriko to pieces,which means that ifd toriko can beat him saitama with pulverise him
>>135205321
That was after testing the water, he was sure that Saitama would either survive the attack and continue the fight anyway, or die from it but be a worthy enough opponent so as to force Boros into using such an attack in the first place.
>>135205352
>Saitama can't do shit to Don based on his current feats. Don shits on Saitama.
>>135203184
So his feats are minimal.
No feat, no dice.
I'm pretty sure he did the rock thing to see how hard he needs to jump to both make it back and not shatter the moon.
The fact the Saitama can even survive on the moon without any sort of suit is already enough to tell you he could've gotten back no matter where he went.
He'd do the glove thing and land, look at boros and say "You owe me a new glove" or some shit.
All these threads do is trick retards into spouting this shit in the normal OPM threads like it holds any water. Please stop.
>>135204492
>can't come up with feats for Saitama so they make shit up that isn't in canon
Bravo.
>>135205343
"I made this character unbeatable."
-ONE
"Master Roshi can beat Saitama!"
-Autistics
>>135204934
>>135205096
>>135205352
That guy's being a huge faggot.
I keep up with toriko, and don's a bit confusing but he's nowhere near what this guy's talking about.
Sure, he can blow up the moon with a little hop and all that, but most likely saitama can too if he gets serious.
Don's "Universe level" feats are reigned in by the fact that he needs a host body, otherwise he exists as a kind of slime/mold/appetite/thing inside the cells of practically everything. But currently, he's in a body that can easily be one punched.
Hell, the current body ain't even the one he wanted. It's going to surely break down right before he deals a finishing blow
>>135204878
His strength is irrelevant to the fact that he was chucked into space and he needed the moon as leverage to get back to earth.
>>135205417
we do know from his feats we know that if toriko who is not as powerfull or durable as saitama can beat don,then saitama will im sure of it punch a hole in him
>>135205072
>Speculation and evidence.
Wrong again. This is something that Saitama has never done.
>>135205343
>it is a comedy manga about a guy who can literally win ANY fight with one punch.
Except Boros took more than one punch, and Saitama struggled against him.
At one point, he almost lost had the moon not been there.
>>135205789
Unbeatable in his own universe of moon-level opposition.
If he takes on universe-ending opposition, it's a different ballgame altogether.
>>135205939
excuse me struggled?
>>135205877
>Saitama can't do shit to Don based on his current feats. Don shits on Saitama.
>>135205894
Eh, that could merely be because Saitama hasn't had the chance to yet. Nothing has brought up that level of power to combat.
Currently, Saitama's power seems limitless. He just knows better than to go full force ever else he does shit like that.
A single serious punch split up earth's atmosphere.
A full force punch could probably fuck reality like that.
>>135205939
And this is why these threads need to stop, people might actually start believing this and not baiting it.
>>135206002
He was pretty scuffed up all throughout the exchange and he even ended up in the moon.
He also couldn't finish him off with one punch.
>>135206008
look here >>135205804
>>135204930
Nah /a/ really does hold that reputation.
It's also the last board to ever know anything.
>>135206049
ya know what boros said right,mean ing he was doing everything deliberately
>>135205804
>but most likely saitama can too if he gets serious.
Speculation. Canon evidence and the limits of his serious punch being Nappa level proves otherwise.
>>135206049
He was holding back.
Even after the serious strike that killed off Boros, Boros himself said that Saitama was STILL holding back.
>>135205730
>The fact the Saitama can even survive on the moon without any sort of suit is already enough to tell you he could've gotten back no matter where he went.
Humans can actually survive the vacuum of space for around 6-8 minutes IIRC.
What is amazing is the fact that Saitama made escape velocity (~5300 mph) and survived reentry temps with barely a scratch
>>135206134
could toriko kill boros?
>>135206169
It's all that no heater/ac training man.
Hardcore shit.
>>135206169
say how hot would reentry be at the speed saitama jumped back?
>>135206103
>ya know what boros said right
>>135206147
>He was holding back.
He couldn't finish Boros off with several normal punches, a whirlwind of consecutive normal punches, and even after taking a serious punch, Boros was still conscious enough to realize he has lost.
Pretty weaksauce when compared to DB feats.
Also, Saitama >>>>>> Boros on knowing how powerful he is.
>>135206050
>S-saitama can beat Don at he weakest
Meh
>Saitama can't do shit to Don based on his current feats. Don shits on Saitama.
>>135206231
really,weaksauce?
did you forget the laser?
>>135206248
now your'e just trolling
>>135206231
Dude I get the bait is probably some sick form of humor for you but come on man, I don't think even the dumbest of retards are getting tricked by it.
>>135206227
According to Google, in excess of 3000 degrees Fahrenheit or 1650 Celsius
>>135205894
>wrong again
That was my first post on this thread.
The only reason I posted is because I'm sick and tired of people like you not getting it. Saitama is literally unbeatable. It doesn't matter what his opponent can do, he was written to be Superman's Superman. It's stupid but that's what the quirk is about this manga. Saitama has no place in powerlevel arguments because he outclasses everything/everyone else anywhere by leagues because he was designed to be like that. It's a joke, and you all get so worked up about it. Why? It's fun to have this kind of bizzare manga scenario in the world. Go take a walk outside and unwind; learn how to deal with ambiguity, and inferiority complexes.
Jesus, it's like saying that JoJo's Bizzare Adventure is gay because of the poses. Why are you taking it seriously? It was put in there to make fun of other shit or put a spin on it. Whatever, this is what I get for going on /a/ during Christmas, when all the respectable people are sleeping or with their families.
>>135206049
scuffed, but no actual damage since he never reacted to any of it in any form. Also >>135206169
he's nigh indestructable. He just plays along most of the time with the villains hoping he can get some satisfaction out of it, which never happens cause they never perform to his actual peak, wherever it is.
>>135206188
Toriko? The faggot that got snorted half to death and then lost to a blue and gold balled monkey multiple times even with friends?
Fuck no. He still has a ways to go to even deal with a planet buster like Neo.
Something like Don Slime with Ichiryuu's body? Maybe.
>>135206188
Yeh. He destroyed the moon, didn't he?
He can take on Tournament Saga Piccolo (Ma Jr.) too. Maybe.
>>135206049
He was dirtied, not injured in the slighest. HIs clothes only get damaged under his own power when he comes back.
Boros sending him to the moon is only there to show that he is more powerful than previous enemies. That's it. It is not a feat and ONE has said that Saitama will never be challenged, period.
>>135206231
Boros took the tail end of that hit, which went through an allegedly planet busting attack, and did not make direct contact at all.
Power level discussion are retarded in this context (because we have nothing to go on since the point is the parody, not the power level crap), but at least argue properly for your side.
>>135206287
>Saitama is literally unbeatable
In the OPMverse outside of it he sucks.
>>135205807
>needed
He just happened to land on the moon and then jumped back to earth.
And if you don't realize that even if he didn't land on the moon he would have done some comedically absurd act like using a punch's force to propell himself back down to earth, then you might be either autistic or an actual retard, possibly both.
>>135206336
>scuffed, but no actual damage
If there's no damage, then he wouldn't be scuffed up.
>>135206337
but wont boros just regenerate?
i mean unless he is blown to pieces his energy wont decrease,like with consecutive normal punches
>>135206315
>The only reason I posted is because I'm sick and tired of people like you not getting it. Saitama is literally unbeatable.
In his own universe. A universe that Yamcha can probably solo.
>>135206381
How do you know? When has Saitama ever encountered a threat from another universe?
>>135206443
Because his feats suck compared to other series.
>>135206438
Here's your (You), merry Christmas.
>>135206382
>And if you don't realize that even if he didn't land on the moon he would have done some comedically absurd act like using a punch's force to propell himself back down to earth, then you might be either autistic or an actual retard, possibly both.
Nice headcanon.
>>135206411
>but wont boros just regenerate?
The power to destroy the moon was way more power than that serious punch.
He'd be obliterated like Kid Buu with the Genki Dama.
>>135206385
i think thats mostly atmospheric reentry that does that,the scufffing i mean
>>135206494
>no rebuttals
I accept your concession.
>>135206382
Not him, but Saitama would have eventually got pulled into some large celestial body's orbit and just do the same thing anyway.
>>135206049
He had actually taken no damage whatsoever, only his clothing fabric was a bit torn in some places.
And he could, in fact, finish him in one punch, and did. A couple of half-assed punches vaporized Boros but didn't destroy his core, so he regenerated back to full health. One serious punch destroyed Boros completely. Absolutely nothing Saitama did in the fight prior to his serious punch mattered, he could have opened with it and would have won on the spot.
>>135206501
but he struggled with the monkey
>>135206488
Please answer the question.
>>135206370
>>135206558
His skin was full of scuff marks that weren't there with other opponents who've tossed him around like a ragdoll (i.e., Ashura Kabuto).
its a gag manga
>>135206227
hotter than a microwave, no source for it but my uncle works for NASA so trust me on this one
>this fucking thread
Im literally autistic and im still overdosing here
>>135206385
Nigga, you can't make the dead organ over the top of your body keep from getting scuffed up just through training.
It was a mixture of dirt and some red that wasn't even really bleeding.
He was completely unfazed by all of it, and Boros only lasted as he did due to obscene healing ability and the fact that Saitama never punched him at full power, even against the planet busting laser.
>>135206527
He was scuffed up even before the Meteoric Burst.
"Serious punch"
>>135206597
Nope, exact same thing happened against Asura Kabuto.
>>135206631
>Nigga, you can't make the dead organ over the top of your body keep from getting scuffed up just through training
So he took damage.
>It was a mixture of dirt and some red that wasn't even really bleeding.
He got tossed around by Kabuto and he never got scuffed up like that. He got damaged.
>>135206597
dirt marks? yes they were
>>135206438
>probably
>>135206648
Casual Poke
>>135206561
Boros is not Monkey.
>>135206607
Don't bother, OPM is officially the worst fanbase on /a/
>>135206231
>He couldn't finish Boros off with several normal punches
Holding back.
>>135206231
>a whirlwind of consecutive normal punches
Actually he did finish him off right there, it's that Boros can regenerate himself, otherwise he would've been dead right there. In fact, Saitama could've just rekt him again and again until he ran out of energy to regenerate.
>and even after taking a serious punch
He didn't take the serious punch, he took the shockwave from it. Faggot.
>>135206704
Okay, most likely.
>>135206550
>>135200008
>not arguing back
>I win
grow up
>>135206438
>A universe that Yamcha can probably solo.
Damn right. Yamcha would fuck up the OPMverse especially that edgy faggot copying his moves.
>>135206772
Don't respond, any form of (you) is literally akin to masturbation for him
>>135206721
yeah but what moves he used to beat the the monkey,boros could regenerate indefinitely since thats whats gonna happen at most
>>135206734
It wasn't always that bad.
I think there's just a gigantic collective tumor that moves to whatever gains popularity.
The anime implies that Saitama's trip to the moon took a matter of seconds each way. Our own moon is about 8 lightseconds away from the surface of Earth, so assuming a similar setup (though I think OPM takes place in a different kind of world with a Pangaea-like setting) Saitama would be moving at highly relatavistic speeds each way from his moon trip. The average dude weighs something like 65 kg and let's say, being very generous here, he went only .75c His kinetic energy, relatavistically, would be something like 3*10^18 J. As per Wikipedia, that's three ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more energy than has been released nuclear testing worldwide done prior to 1996. Both from Boros' hit and Saitama's jump. By all rights, the moon should have a large noticeable crater and perhaps a chunk of crust missing.
Not trying to argue anything, just fun.
Could Saitama beat Guts?
>>135206886
Yes certainly, it was the anime's fault.
Manga threads weren't the best on /a/ but they were infinitely better than what it is now. I hate when manga I read get anime now because it attracts the public eye, along with all the shitposting it entails. And the negative quality of discussion never goes away.
>>135206803
>that edgy faggot copying his moves.
?
>>135204535
You can achieve the force needed to shatter the moon if you move fast enough
>>135206887
You have to think about the energy Saitama himself absorbed from impacts. his durability is incredible. He probably has a supernatural absorption of immense kinetic energy when it comes to either dishing it out or absorbing it.
like when he throws a punch that can affect clouds thousands of kilometers away it doesn't even move him back a centimeter from the recoil.
>>135206968
Nothing can beat Gut's plot armor.
>>135206991
What i still don't get is, if all the normies flock to it then how come we're getting all this autism?
>what if we took a comedic, tongue-in-cheek manga
>and then, what if we disregard the humour and just focus on pedantically analysing every single details about the series
>OPM fanbase
>>135206803
>Boros is Yamcha level
kek
>>135207371
>>OPM fanbase
>people that keep shitting on the series and making shitposts nonstop are the fanbase
>>135206772
Yes. Because Saitama is weaker than Master Roshi.
>>135206756
Boros was able to take punches that finished off many of OPM's enemies. He's not OPM anymore.
>>135207543
maybe because he is not "one punch man" whatsoever you fucking idiot
it's the name of the fucking series, not his "super power" and not his hero name either
>>135195751
>DeeBeeZee intro
Seems legit.
>>135207623
So it is true that Boros took more punches than normal and Saitama struggled to take him out.
Merry Christmas, /a/. Thanks for the present! I sure do love the cancer this thread gave me.
Here's another fun fact. Space is in fact not empty, and contains a few molecules per square centimeter, more if you are near a body.
If he punched consecutively and hard enough, and launched those atoms with the speed of light, he'd be quite able to punch his way back to earth. It'd just take a lot of fast punching...
>>135207623
I know right? I bet that anon also complains that Bleach doesn't feature any detergents or room cleaning.
>>135207695
yeah whatever you want to think
it's really fun to shitpost, right?
>>135207695
>Saitama struggled to take him out.
So you didn't watch or read it? The answer is clearly stated. This isn't /wsr/ but I do recommend to see the series through.
>>135207356
Because normies' aren't the only ones. Particularly with popular shows, contrarian shitposters feel an ingrained urge to flock to anything popular and incite shit-flinging wars for their own amusement. These people are always autistic as fuck, and very vocal about it, which is why discussion gets dragged down so much. Normies don't even post on /a/, but the autist shitposters are willing to code an extension on their browser linked to a phone app that will notify them every time a thread related to One Punch Man is posted so that they can start shitposting at maximum efficiency with very little downtime.
>>135207772
>So you didn't watch or read it?
He wasn't able to take him out in one punch and had to use a Serious Punch.
Sounds like he struggled to me.
>>135195815
Saitama is Blast
Saitama got lucky that he landed on the moon and if he was knocked into space he would of been done for.
>>135207891
>anon confirms the stereotype seconds after it's pointed out >>135207930
it's like poetry
What if Blast is Blust
>>135207991
Replying to your own post won't make >>135207930 any less true.
Saitama could've died if the moon wasn't there.
>>135208026
I wonder what kind of face you types make when making posts like these
>>135208026why do I STILL bother responding?
>>135208108
>you types
ESL confirmed.
>>135206556
Not really in space because he needs a opposite force to hit to send him back like we need to push the ground to walk and gravity to keep us on the ground.
Also, the farther he is from earth, the likelier he'll suffocate.
Saitama was lucky to beat Boros confirmed.
/thread
>>135208065
Anon you couldn't be more wrong. Allow me, patron internet truthsayer and master practitioner of correctness to make right your mistakes. Only through our most ancient and sacred ritual of repeated faceless argument can the gems of genuine and true discussion that shine so brightly from within our image board as a beacon of refined cultural criticism for the world to see, that the masses may strive for greater understanding of patrician media consumption.
>if the moon weren't there
Your conditional activated the subjunctive mood for the remainder of the sentence. You are welcome.
>>135208212
Then why even bother accusing people of samefagging if you know it's impossible to prove either way?
I've seen and had this exact same conversation dozens of times, with the same results every time.
Don't be a tool and think you're smart enough to tell when two posts are by the same person, since obviously the conversation is headed for a dead-end with no real conclusion very soon, whether or not you're even right in the first place.
>>135208418
>Saitama won because the plot has it that he wins every fight without trouble.
ftfy
>>135208441
If the moon weren't there, Saitama would be soaring out of the solar system by how hard Boros kicked him.
He'd also run out of air and die.
>>135208368
Assuming breathing was not a problem, what's to stop him from drifting into the orbital pull of some satellite where he could just jump back to earth?
>>135208418
>/thread-ing your own post
>Somehow manages to be the biggest faggot in the thread despite all the bullshit above him
>>135208486
Saitama almost suffocated in space if the moon weren't there. He's not infallible and he can't breathe in space.
>>135208507
What satellite? He's going off to space. He didn't get pulled into any satellite when he got out of the earth's atmosphere and landed on the moon.
>>135208499
Neither of those claims have any sort of proof to support them.
>>135208527
I was confirming the posts above me to be correct.
Do more damage control. Boros almost killed Saitama.
>>135208577
He needed the moon to get back. It's also confirmed he can't breath in space, that's why he held his breath.
>People are still replying
>>135208561
>Saitama won because the plot has it that he wins every fight without trouble.
Nothing in what you said invalidates this statement.
>>135208621
But if he hadn't hit the moon, he would've died because he would've suffocated.
It has nothing to do with how strong he is.
>>135208561
The moon IS a satellite Anon kun.
Also every in space moves because some other body is pulling or pushing against it.
>>135208678
Nah, he would have held his breath for however long it took for him to get back.
>>135208455
Because it's so obvious it was your own post.
>>135208611
I know, I'm ashamed of myself.
I would commit sudoku but it's christmas so I'll just go to bed
>>135190568
hold a sec
>punch at daylight
>land on moon
>>135208695
>semantics
He didn't hit any of the manmade satellites surrounding Earth when he hit the moon.
>>135208702
And your proof of this is what?
This thread is about if Saitama got lucky or his weaknesses.
>>135208678
His being plot armoured has nothing to do with his strength. Take King. His strength is inexistent. He has provably won encounters even so, because the plot has it that his reputation frightens anyone who meets him into submission.
He won because the plot has it that he will always win. End of story.
>>135208764
>>135208776
Holy shit, this is some god level idiocy right there.
>>135208795
>His being plot armoured has nothing to do with his strength.
His plot armor is not a feat.
Also, saying that it's plot armor means you do acknowledge that Saitama can't breathe in space and if he hadn't hit the moon, he would've suffocated.
>>135208764
And I'm done. Thanks /a/. Humanity, if nothing else, will always be amusing.
OP is assuming he didn't land on the moon on purpose.
Saitama isn't just super strong, he's competent in battle in almost every way. It wouldn't be much for him to control his direction so that he hit the moon.
>>135208840
>ad hominem
>>135208878
>OP is assuming he didn't land on the moon on purpose.
Prove that he landed on the moon on purpose.
He looked pretty surprised when he got there.
The OPM fanbase is a terrible fanbase.
A normal fanbase wouldn't be so damn protective over a character and actually try to listen if you bring up a what if or a weakness.
Even if i didn't have that rant people would have made this Saitama versus everyone.
>>135202720
What the fuck is this show even about
>>135190568
If Saitama wanted he could one shot 5 universes at once he broke his "limiter" and now he has no limits anything goku can do Saitama can do it 10x better because he has no limit to his power goku has limits to each transformation he has and his body has limits . Saitama doesn't have that he doesn't need to power up or train he already has no limits to how strong his strength durability or speed is because it's limitless.
>>135208924
I never said I had proof. Are you autistic or something? Hang on dude let me get out my screenshot proof lmao
Yeah maybe he didn't, my point is it's an assumption and it's funny to think he affected his trajectory.
>>135208984
DBZ if it were a cooking show.
>>135208851
Nope. All it means is that the plot will bend over backwards to ensure whatever happens will favour him. He could be weak as a baby, provided the plot demands he wins.
In this case, the moon was handily present, allowing him to return to the fight with minimal loss of time, since he was thrown outside the atmosphere.
>>135209043
>I never said I had proof.
I accept your concession.
ITT: Plebs that don't realize Gauro is going to beat Saitama
>>135195849
>it's unknown if his glove has that much mass to give him that much thrust if the throws it
It doesn't really matter how much mass it has, because it would be going at ridiculous velocity.
>>135209089
>Nope. All it means is that the plot will bend over backwards to ensure whatever happens will favour him.
Still not a feat, just bad writing.
When Saitama jumped from the Moon to Earth, he took about 5 seconds or less. At perigee — its closest approach — the moon comes as close as 225,623 miles (363,104 kilometers). Therefore, Saitama's speed is about 261,434,880 km/hr, which is about 1/3 of light speed. Although he cannot "fly", his "jumping" can be that fast.
>>135209104
thanks man I appreciate it
>>135209104
are you fucking retarded
>>135209131
>It doesn't really matter how much mass it has, because it would be going at ridiculous velocity.
He would've suffocated by then since he can't breathe in space.
>>135190568
>taking a joke series this seriously
>>135208418
Bumping facts.
>>135209256
argumentum ad logicam
Why are people bringing gloves if he could probably punch himself back into Earth's direction?
>>135209339
Because he can't punch himself back to the Earth's direction. That's retarded.
Yall niggas even read the webcomic?
>>135209256
I wasn't trying to use my insult as an argument to support a point, I was using my insult as an insult.
>>135209333
*hominem
ftfy senpai
>>135209361
explain further
>>135209132
And when did I say it was a feat? When the author says that he write the character to be the strongest, with no challenge, then all feats become meaningless in the context of his fights. Because nothing matters beyond the plot.
Look, I'll humour you for a minute.
Saitama's feats, such as they are, are pointless.
His punch against the Sea King blows away the rain. That's something on the level of Superman. Except it only does that, and does not cause a shockwave blowing away the entire block as it should.
Take his only attack against Genos during their spar. Genos is directly in the line of fire, but his hair is only blown away, while the countryside is destroyed. Because the plot demands he showcase absurd, all encompassing strength, in a humorous fashion.
The best example is his Serious Table Flip. If you can't admit that's a gag, I don't know what to tell you. He throws thousands of tonnes of debris in the air, without touching them. That makes no sense. You can't calc it, But he still does it because that's part of a well known comedic routine.
>>135209399
It makes no sense. Do you know how space works?
>>135209398
his response is similar to ad hominem but is not
>>135209439
lmao?
>>135209381
So you have no arguments?
I accept your concession.
>>135209431
Saitama would still suffocate in space if Boros kicked him anywhere other than to the moon.
>>135209490
How can Saitama move around it when he can't breathe, fly, or have a moon or planet to propel himself in it?
He can't especially if he gets hit hard enough to fly across planets in space.
>>135192633
He never takes off his gloves and isn't that smart so... just saying.
>>135209525
You keep saying that but there's no proof of that.
>>135209558
He can move his own body
>>135209439
What is the difference between using his feet to jump back, and punching himself to go back?
>>135209661
He has nothing to stop his forward momentum and nothing to punch ahead of him.
He'd run out of air before he could do anything.
People arguing over shit writers probabbly throw in with no concept of physics in the first place. Ya'll are just as bad a fucking screwattack.
OPM power= Beat anything in 1 punch.
Goku power=Internal energy turned into external energy.
Its so fucking simple. there is no 'feats' there is no seculation. there is no 'Goku did X' or 'Saitama hasent X'.
Saitama wins. that how it works. there is no if butts or wiggle room in the statement. Saitama wins.
>>135209621
He held his breath. He said he can't fly. He also has nothing to jump off of.
Do the math.
>>135209675
The presence of the fucking moon.
>>135209493
Ok here's an argument sperglord. Look at OP's post. My claim is that OP assumed Saitama didn't land on the moon on purpose. I didn't say Saitama 100% definitely did it on purpose, because I'm not a sperg. I just put forth the idea that he may have, because it's funny along the same vein as the series' humor. I understand you may not get such simple social cues so I hope you enjoyed this explanation. Regardless, there's nothing to concede since nothing I said was wrong.
>>135209749
>Saitama wins. that how it works.
He hasn't taken on anything of the scale of what Goku has taken on. Get the fuck out of here.
>>135209711
No one in thread that has successfully proven he is capable of suffocating. Why does he need to punch something other than himself to change momentum?
>>135209821
>My claim is that OP assumed Saitama didn't land on the moon on purpose.
And your proof that Saitama landed on the moon on purpose is where?
>I just put forth the idea that he may have
Ah, so it's baseless speculation. Okay.
>>135209829
IT dosent matter the scale. Saitama wins. Thats the power. thats all there is to it. If you have the power to roll a dice and make it land on 1 with 100% accuracy and roll the dice whats it going to land on? a fucking 1.
But could Saitama beat Uchiha Madara?
>>135209525
Two things:
First: and so what? What is the point of your scenario? Proving that the plot moves in his favour?
Second:
Especially in the anime, when he arrives, his behaviour is not one of distress. He actually goes out of his way to waste 10 seconds looking around and playing with a rock. Which, if anything, would lend credence to the idea that he can last extended or limitless amounts of time there, merely going through the motions just because.
>>135209874
>has successfully proven he is capable of suffocating.
That's not how burden of proof works. You're claiming something out of the ordinary, so you should be the one to prove that Saitama isn't capable of suffocation (blatant baseless speculation, mind you).
The fact that Saitama held his breath shows that he is capable of suffocation. What's your proof that he isn't?
>>135209888
>Saitama fanboyism versus logic
>>135209937
THERE IS NO LOGIC! ITS A FUCKING MANGA
>>135209877
I just want you to know this is funny. Thank you anon.
>>135209925
>What is the point of your scenario?
That Saitama got lucky with winning with Boros and Boros almost killed him.
>Especially in the anime, when he arrives, his behaviour is not one of distress
Of course not. He landed on the moon. If he hadn't though...
>>135209959
>no logic
I accept your concession.
>>135209661
there's this thing called "law of momentum conservation"
in space, a human can be without much error considered as a separated system
this means that, no matter how he is moving his body, the center of mass stays in the same position, so unless he moves certain part of his mass (for example, his glove), he alone won't move anywhere
>>135209905
Don't start that shit.
>>135209976
This is amazingly circular. There is nothing of the sort to prove, since the author will never go out of his way to put Saitama at risk. Moreover, Saitama's entire nature as the main character means that such things have no bearing on him, even before factoring the gag manga genre.
So again, what are you trying to prove? That he is the MC?
Take any fictional work. The MC has exceptional luck, and circumstances work in his favour at all times. That's how it has worked since the beginning of fiction.
>>135210030
correction, the center of mass stays at the same velocity and can not be changed by internal forces
>>135209937
That's not how the burden of proof works. I have no claim, only the statement that another claim has been made, but not backed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayBys8gaJY
>The fact that Saitama held his breath shows that he is capable of suffocation.
Break down for me how holding your breath means you're capable of suffocating
>>135210073
>This is amazingly circular.
Not at all. No moon = One Dead Man.
Pretty simple if you ask me.
>>135209439
I hate to be that guy but I'm a bit of a physicsfag. The KE I got earlier this thread would convert to 33.3 kg of rest mass. That's a bit more than half his own mass, enough to investigate nuclear options, and he generated it in a single JUMP, not even a punch. In other words, Saitama is beyond nuclear, and capable of producing some truly bullshit energy quantities. Your Newtonian physics is fine, but if Saitama has any energy conversion ability whatsoever, if the guy just heats up his goddamn hands or joints from working them so they radiate in one direction more than the other (back facing photons bounce off his body and also provide force) , the emitted photons would provide a momentum change just from punching space.
>>135209752
>Do the math.
That's what I'm here for.You guys realize this is a power levels thread, not a OPM thread, right? OPM is just the easiest target right now. You're in the wrong thread if you wanted to discuss the series./spoiler]
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>>135209905
Which form of Madara, may I ask?
>>135209399
Google conservation of momentum.
Did you drop out of school after learning to write anon?
>>135210132
I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan God Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, with Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan, and having mastered Hokuto Shinken posessing perfect Musou Tensei, Inherited the Hiten Misturugi Ryu style fully mastering the Amakekeru Ryu no Hirameki, Having mastered Gear Fourth and mastered all 3 Haki's, possesses all Clow Cards, and has done 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats then a 10km run every single day for the past 3 years.
>>135210106
But you have yet to prove that he will suffocate. Your entire argument is that things go his way, but they could have not. Which, for multiple reasons, is impossible.
Now, I do have a bit of fun with this. But I certainly hope you are trolling.
>>135210105
>I have no claim
>Saitama can't suffocate!
Yes you do.
>>135210192
It's not my job to prove the other person correct
>>135210224
Why do you presume he can't suffocate? Punching power has no bearing with suffocation. He said he's human.
>>135210241
Negative assertion /=/ Positive assertion
>Saitama can suffocate!
Sounds like a claim right?
>>135210224
>Which, for multiple reasons, is impossible.
How so?
Not landing on the moon because Boros kicked him elsewhere is a definite possibility.
>>135210131
underrated post
What if Saitama farts. There, that's the propulsion he'll need. Since it's Saitama, the force exerted from the fart will probably just as strong as those gas powered rocket propeller. Moon or no moon, he'll just take off his pant, moon the opposite direction of the earth, let one big fart and voila, he'll be zipping back to earth.
>>135210292
He held his breath because he can suffocate. Otherwise, he wouldn't have held his breath.
Now refute that he can't suffocate.
>>135210030
>a human
What is the definition of "human" here? Is somebody capable of moving at his speed and with that strength still considered "human" in this case?
In case I'm not clear: I'm not saying he's not human, just asking if this law applies to him.
>idiots ITT
Space is not a perfect vacuum, there are atoms of helium and hydrogen floating around to be punched.
>>135210292
see >>135209874
>he is incapable of suffocating.
That's a claim.
>>135210423
Multiple people have mention that throughout the thread Anon
>>135210371
>I'm not saying he's not human
Then he is human and the law does apply to him.
>>135210370
He held his breath because he would suffocate because he would suffocate if he didnt hold his breath?
>>135210443
you just pointed me to another one of my posts
>>135209874
>Why does he need to punch something other than himself to change momentum?
see >>135210030
>there's this thing called "law of momentum conservation"
Read a book, anon.
>>135210476
So why did he hold his breath if it's not to keep himself from suffocating?
Usually, people hold their breath in order to keep themselves from suffocating in a place where there's no breathable oxygen.
>>135210371
i just mean that he looks like a human (or any living organism), so that he can be considered as a separated system, for the sake of easier application of Newton laws and conservation of momentum
>>135210275
But he very clearly is not.
Not only has no human ever showcased - in the series - the same level of capability, there are multiple arguments against it.
First, his training regimen. Compare with that of Superalloy Blackluster, who kept on lifting until he was lifting multiple tonnes, with Saitama's 100 push up/squats 10km run. The first is vastly superhuman, the second is not. But Saitama reached unbelievable heights.
Second, his demonstrated powers. Stopping a giant bird with one hand while standing on concrete the very same bird has just destroyed even if it was not there. Or the other examples I gave earlier.
Third, he does not fit any of the existing powers in his universe. He has no ESP, no Fighting Spirit, his fighting skills are minimal. Yet he can resist direct ESP with no trouble, something he should be able to do. In a fight, things go his way unless he lets the opponent throw him around, which goes beyond physical strength.
>>135210476
>you just pointed me to another one of my posts
Where you made the claim he is incapable of suffocating.
Burden of proof is yours.
>>135210558
>But he very clearly is not.
It doesn't necessarily follow that having training regimens and showcasing superhuman abilities that Saitama can survive in space without running out of oxygen.
Otherwise, he wouldn't have held his breath. Nor do you have any proof that he can hold his breath indefinitely.
>>135210558
>First, his training regimen. Compare with that of Superalloy Blackluster, who kept on lifting until he was lifting multiple tonnes, with Saitama's 100 push up/squats 10km run. The first is vastly superhuman, the second is not. But Saitama reached unbelievable heights.
>Second, his demonstrated powers. Stopping a giant bird with one hand while standing on concrete the very same bird has just destroyed even if it was not there.
None of these feats have any relevance in whether or not he'd run out of air in space when he held his breath.
>>135210637
>>135210666
but he would have gained, like, huge lungs from training!
>>135210558
>having superhuman strength somehow allows people to survive without breathing in space
Nope. Nice try with the nonsequitur, though.
>>135210005
>I accept your concession.
reddit teir atheist fag responses
>>135210741
>but he would have gained, like, huge lungs from training!
He's still run out of breath eventually while hurtling out of the solar system.
>>135210476
>>135210476
>He held his breath because he would suffocate
It seems to me that he held his breath because he thought that's what he should do. Let's face it, Saitama may look like a light bulb, but he's not very bright,
>>135210637
But I am not claiming he can. You are claiming he must breath.
I merely show evidence that unless he wishes something affect him, it does not. Which could include the lack of air in space. Note that Genos himself points out the impossibility of what he does versus what he professes he did to become what he is now.
Moreover, this discussion is meaningless when the author deliberately sets out to make him as strong as he need to be, as favoured as he has to be. Which is acknowledged in universe and out of it. Again.
Really, one could make an argument that the entire events hinge upon Saitama deciding he will be a hero, and the universe bending over backwards to provide him with that. But the hero must win, thus no challenge.
>>135210772
>no rebuttal, just insults
Still no arguments left, huh?
>>135210788
Since Saitama is dumb, then it would never occur to him to throw his glove in order to reverse his momentum if Boros had kicked him anywhere but the moon.
>>135206556
In case you didn't know, space is fucking huge and empty. If someone ever flew out to space in a random direction, it would be statistically impossible for him to EVER reach anything or come close to an orbit of any heavenly body. He'd fly for billions of years and never come in contact with anything.
>>135210533
Another anon mentioned that in the manga Saitama says "I think I should hold my breath?". I haven't confirmed that yet. But if you were to argue that the lack of explanation behind his holding his breath means he is capable of suffocating then you would be arguing from ignorance
>>135210585
Look at the video I linked about the burden of proof
>>135210822
>Still no arguments left, huh?
Its make believe. It dosent have to make sense. Saitama dosent exist. Goku dosent exist.
>this entire thread
Serious Series: Serious Shitpost.
>>135210820
Are you claiming Saitama has Ironheart Surge or something, /tg/?
It's explained how he got so strong in-universe, you know. Read the webcomic.
In the setting of OPM, training will make an organism more powerful. However, every organism has a "limiter" that once they reach, they cannot get more powerful. Saitama broke his limiter; he can train and will always get more powerful. Every single push-up will give him a marked increase in strength, with absolutely no stopping point.
>>135210820
>But I am not claiming he can.
So he can't. Therefore, he'll suffocate.
He held his breath for a reason. To not suffocate. He didn't hold his breath for no reason.
Unless you can give a valid reason why he held his breath, the logical assumption would be to keep himself from suffocating.
>>135210854
In other words, Saitama was afraid of running out of oxygen. Otherwise, he wouldn't have held his breath.
Unless you have another valid reason for him to hold his breath, then the logical assumption is to keep himself from suffocating.
Saitama would know the limits of his body better than you, after all.
>>135210854
>Look at the video I linked about the burden of proof
You're assuming he can survive in space without breathing.
Where's your proof?
Also, why did he hold his breath?
Are all of you REALLY arguing about a situation thats never going to occur? like seriously. Get a fucking hobby
>>135210854
>But if you were to argue that the lack of explanation behind his holding his breath means he is capable of suffocating then you would be arguing from ignorance
Not really. If anything, Saitama came to the same conclusion as I have.
Meanwhile, there's literally nothing supporting your claim that he can survive without breathing or holding his breath in space, or that he can somehow avoid running out of oxygen.
>>135210991
>never
Boros could've kicked Saitama anywhere else but the moon. That could've happened as far as the story is concerned.
Yep. You're right. Saitama was lucky to win against Boros.
>>135211027
>could've
I wana highlight this word. BECAUSE IT MEANS HE DIDN'T.
IT. DOES. NOT. FUCKING. MATTER.
>>135211062
But if it did, Saitama would've died.
That's what's being argued here.
>>135211110
>if
Fucking stop dude. It dosent matter. it will never matter. Never ever ever ever.
>>135210915
>>135210915
>>135210745
>>135210666
>>135210919
Were I to claim anything, I would claim that he is the entire reason his universe works as it does.
Which is to say that as the main character, he gets to decide what goes.
And as such, that his training was pointless. The thing that happened is that he decided at one point to be a hero, and the universe gave him monsters to defeat. He decided his enemies would fall in one punch, and they do.
Again, his training is bereft of anything capable of causing such a boost in power. Which is proven in universe by the training of others.
Charanko is pretty much Saitama before he became a hero. Yet he can do jack shit, and his power level is rock bottom.
Therefore, one may conclude that Saitama bends reality to a limitless degree.
In the manga, he notes once he gets thrown to the moon that now it looks like a fight. Because he is looking for one. Thus he gets one.
>>135210840
>it would be statistically impossible for him to EVER reach anything or come close to an orbit of any heavenly body. He'd fly for billions of years and never come in contact with anything.
But see that's where you're wrong, not in terms of your science mind you, but the fact that Saitama is the cannon embodiment of all that's unfair in the universe. No matter how strong you are or how lucky you are, he'll always be stronger and luckier. Knock him to space? The moon of some other body will just happen to be there to break his momentum. He's like a game of Mario Kart where you get hit by a blue shell, a 3 red shells, a green shell, and a bomb-omb then slip on a banana 3 feet away from the finish line. OPM is just a guy with all the cheat codes turn on.
>Saitama got lucky
OPMfags on suicide watch!
>>135211027
>>135211110
If the author wrote it Saitama could turn into a giant squid, eat the whole planet and burn by falling into the sun. I don't see you discussing that option.
>>135207954
Proof?
King was given the recognition for Saitamas achievements, we dont know anything about Blast yet.
>>135211155
Well, you're wrong.
>>135211213
>If the author wrote it Saitama could turn into a giant squid
Thing is, the author didn't.
>>135211155
>Were I to claim anything, I would claim that he is the entire reason his universe works as it does.
Nice headcanon and dubs, senpai.
This thread is gold. I nominate thread of the year 2015.
>>135211253
No, that's in universe theorizing to make sense of what he is.
All told, that proves rather than disproves my point. Because Genus tries to makes heads or tails of something beyond the scope of understanding.
>>135211155
>Again, his training is bereft of anything capable of causing such a boost in power.
This has zero relevance to his ability or inability to survive in space without oxygen.
>>135211328
So, you're wrong and you deny evidence to the contrary. Got it. We're done here.
>>135211155
Nigga did you even read the manga?
The whole point of the House of Evolution and Garou was that Saitama is a HUMAN and through sheer force of will, he pushed himself beyond the breaking point and now has no limits. He essentially ascended with the whole buddhist monk look.
Garou gets close to what Saitama achieved but he throws his humanity away and after that becomes weaker and weaker.
Same with the house of evolution.
And im sure they are going to come back to this once Metal Knight becomes the villain.
>>135211145
It's a What If thread. Are you really that defensive about Saitama being muh undefeatable protagonist?
>>135211345
That has everything to do with it. He cannot, in universe, get that strong.
He has no limit. He is the embodiment of doing what he wants.
>>135211411
>That has everything to do with it. He cannot, in universe, get that strong.
see >>135211398
Also, again, zero relevance to whether he can survive in space without oxygen. Rampant unsourced speculation on your part, senpai.
>>135211398
Yes I do. And Genus is not an omniscient narrator. He does not say what is, merely what is a likely possibility in light of what he knows.
>>135211384
Well this thead is shit so gotta make the most of it.
>>135211411
>He has no limit. He is the embodiment of doing what he wants.
Not how the limiter works.
>>135206438
Yamcha would destroy Boros
>>135211411
see >>135210998
>Not really. If anything, Saitama came to the same conclusion as I have.
>Meanwhile, there's literally nothing supporting your claim that he can survive without breathing or holding his breath in space, or that he can somehow avoid running out of oxygen.
Try again.
>>135211267
Just like he didn't write about Saitama getting thrown into space.
>>135211405
>Are you really that defensive about Saitama being muh undefeatable protagonist?
There is nothing to be defensive about. ITs not a argument. There is no wat if situation where Saitama will loose. thats how it works
>>135211481
And Wanpanman. He'd tank consecutive serious punches too.
>>135209525
i doubt it.
this is probably what would happen.
"i think im running out of air.."
"oh? how am i not dying."
"ah, this is annoying."
Saitama falls asleep, floating through space until he eventually falls onto a planet.
"oh. huh..strange. well now what. earth is probably dead by now..well i think i saw this in a manga once."
Saitama jumps towards earth hurling faster than the speed of light, travels back through time and comedically slams face first into the ship at boros fight. this creates a black hole for some reason and somehow only sucks boros and half of the spaceship in.
>>135211483
I provided sourced arguments. That you cannot accept them does not mean anything.
>>135211510
>There is nothing to be defensive about. ITs not a argument. There is no wat if situation
That's something a fanboy would say.
>>135211530
>i doubt it.
>this is probably what would happen.
>"i think im running out of air.."
>"oh? how am i not dying."
>"ah, this is annoying."
That's not canon, tho.
>>135211461
>And Genus is not an omniscient narrator. He does not say what is, merely what is a likely possibility in light of what he knows.
Which comes in the form of an exposition dump, is from a source described as one of the most intelligent in the setting, who at the time has no reason to lie, is consistent with all circumstances shown, and has no alternative explanations whatsoever.
It's canon until shown otherwise.
>>135211535
>I provided sourced arguments.
And rampant speculation that has zero to do with Saitama's ability to survive in space without breathing.
>>135211553
>That's something a fanboy would say.
It dosent matter what it fucking sounds like to you. nobody cares what you fucking think.
>>135211522
How dare you patronize the great Yamcha you shitter
>>135211530
You should write a fanfic about that, senpai.
>>135211596
Facts established in the manga:
-Saitama held his breath.
-Saitama can't fly.
-The moon stopped his momentum.
If he flew without the moon, he'd die or worse, fly into space lost until years later, when he finds his way to earth only to see destroyed because he wasn't smart enough to throw his glove to reverse his momentum.
>>135195499
Punch at Earth. The momentum of his fist moving counteracts the momentum of his body flying away.
>>135211660
>If
One word and I seriously don't give a fuck anymore.
>>135206336
>scuffed, but no actual damage
That's not what happened in the webcomic.
>>135211702
It's a if that's very possible.
A simple change of trajectory and poof, One Dead Man.
>>135211775
>possible.
Fuck sake. just stop
>>135211689
That's just going to propel him further away from earth.
>>135211745
That response is him sagging his shoulders because he's bored
>>135211802
Why are you so afraid of tarnishing your "perfect" Saitama image with a what if that isn't even out of the realm of possibility?
>>135211810
And his scuffed up face was from boredom too, huh?
>>135211804
Then punch in the opposite direction of earth
>>135211858
>punch at the emptiness of space
>it does nothing
Wanpanman dies. Wandedman.
>>135211855
scuffed, but no actual damage
>>135211894
Being scuffed up means his skin was damaged. Bruised. That's what scuffed up means.
>>135211484
He wrote it. Any addition that Murata puts in the manga version, ONE storyboards.
>>135211917
Looks like dirt to me
>>135211953
He never got dirty with Asura Kabuto, and that monster crashed him through many a wall.
>>135190568
>daylight
>hit towards the moon
good job japan
>>135211745
>That's not what happened in the webcomic.
It's exactly what happened in the webcomic, even in the pic you posted.
>>135212111
He's pretty damaged in the webcomic, tho.
>>135203184
So his serious strike was holding back?
What do you call holding back using 1/3 of your power?
Even if he was using 1/100 of his power his full power wouldnt be scary
>>135204669
Obelix easy
The magic potion makes you undefeatable
>>135212455
What if Saitama drinks the potion?
>>135205789
>He is unbeatable in all fiction because he is unbeatable yet in his own universe
OPM fan logic
>>135206013
>>135206315
>He is unbeatable because i say so
>>135212403
One Punch faggots live and breathe the no limits fallacy to pretend Saitama has any relevance whatsoever.
>>135208577
Proof: Motherfucking physics
He would be propelling in space and his blood and other body fluids would boil before he would run out of air killing him
So, how do the people arguing about power levels view fiction? Do they realize it's fiction? Do they understand that the various settings being compared don't actually exist, and that they don't necessarily have objective, clearly defined laws and mechanics governing the way the world, people and powers work? Do they understand the importance of narrative and thematic side of things?
>>135190568
>>135191714
why didn't his eyes pop out?
that's the real question
>>135210558
Saitama only broke his limit and evolved to a higher of physical strenght
He literally Hokuto Shinken'd himself
There is nothing else preventing him to die from suffocation and exposure to 0 pressure
>>135212510
He is unbeatable because that's how his character is defined. A character who isn't unbeatable isn't the same character. He is a fictitious character, not a real person. It is nonsensical to try to view him separate from the setting and narrative of One-Punch Man, because he only exists in the context of that setting and that narrative. The same is true for any and all other fictitious characters. Comparing characters from different settings is stupid because different settings aren't actually comparable: feats that are possible in one setting may very well be completely impossible in another setting, regardless the power and competence of the character attempting those feats.
>>135212644
A fun place for thought experiments.
Yes^3.
Just because a work has high powerlevels does not mean it is good or bad, and nobody insists as such.
There are good works with extremely high powerlevels, there are bad works with extremely high powerlevels, there are great works with extremely low powerlevels, there is every and all combinations in between.
However, ill-defined and obscure settings are often a result of either poor writing or an extremely lighthearted project (e.g. a gag series).
>>135212013
>speedwatcher
>>135212479
He would be at the same strength as Obelix
Magic potion gives you unbeatable strength but your physical feats does not matter when you gain its power
And before anyone starts sperging out of their asses, this was established as a fact in Asterix and the Goths
Then Obelix would get an exception to drink the potion once and still be stronger than Saitama
>>135212771
But my dear autistic anon, he is not created as unbeatable
He is simply created as way too strong
He does not exist in your headcanon nor fanfics
>>135190568
>>Implying he wouldn't find a way
Saitama always finds a way anon.
>>135212957
>Obelix is stronger than Saitama with the potion
What are Obelix's feats?
>>135195472
He'd see Boros' ship anyway and jump straight back
>>135213079
He did beat a shitload of romans. Did Saitama beat a shitload of romans?
>>135213115
>jump straight back
From where? And how will he see Boros's ship? It's not visible from space.
>>135213079
Permanenet potion effect
Being undefetable from it
If Obelix and Saitama both drinks the potion Obelix would still be powerful
>>135213135
Saitama beat a shitload of monsters, which could kill a shitload of humans (which are what Romans are).
Does that count?
>People think Saitma powers are based on Strength, When infact Saitamas powers puts him closer to a reality warper.
>>135213162
>undefeatable
Because he hasn't faced a mountain buster.
>>135213052
Saitama isn't Keit-ai nor KyoAni.
>>135213162
Obelix did drink the potion before and the effects weren't really positive, though. Assuming you count Uderzo's plots as canon.
He also lost to that german martial artist in The Twelve Tasks of AsterixAstérix x DBZ when
>>135213188
Then the potion will give him powers to defeat the mountain buster
>>135213222
>Asterix vs DBZ
>Obélisk Astérix face SSG Vegeta and Goku
>Traditional Asterix and Obelix slap
This would probably send them flying a few galaxies
Why did Saitama land on moon if the fight was taking place on daylight?
Why didn't Boros kick Saitama anywhere else but the moon? He could've suffocated in space.
>>135213291
>Then the potion will give him powers to defeat the mountain buster
Nice headcanon, senpai.
>>135190568
A super serious fart would have gotten him back to earth
>>135213182
Nice headcanon, senpai.
>another 400+ reply thread about who could kill a character whose entire premise is godmode hax
make this stop
>>135213432
>godmode
>holds his breath in space
If he were godmode, he wouldn't hold his breath in space.
>>135213432
He is really strong but he is not god mode. He still requires food ,water and air to survive
>>135190568
Not true, saitama could've taken out his glove and thrown it in the opposite direction so hard the force propels him to the surface.
>>135213311
Because Gandalf's Eagles would've caught him, Frodo.
>implying this fight doesn't have any more feats than both the DBZ and OPM universe combined
>>135213517
see
>>135209598
>He never takes off his gloves and isn't that smart so... just saying.
>>135213557
It doesn't. Can't even destroy a universe or a planet by the strength of the shockwaves of their punches.
What if Saitama busts a nut in space? Would that propel him back to earth? Or are you wankers better at wanking than One Wank Man?
>>135213602
Are powerlevelfags this so far up their own asses they can't recognize an obvious joke?
>>135213629
>pretending to be retarded
>>135213656
Are you?
>>135213557
Egyptian Wuxia?
>>135213700
Oh, so you're actually retarded? Good show, then.
>>135212644
See, that's the thing about these autists. They can't seem to that fiction, at its core, functions as a medium of story telling.
>>135212798
> ill-defined and obscure settings are often a result of either poor writing or an extremely lighthearted project
Except in this case, it's pretty damn obvious it's the latter.
>>135213977
>Except in this case, it's pretty damn obvious it's the latter.
But it isn't. OPM is comedy, it isn't slapstick. The setting is written seriously so as to facilitate the comedy of the protagonist. The setting HAS to be serious so that his incredibly not-serious countenance has greater impact.
That's precisely how the jokes of OPM flow.
>>135212798
If coming up with the same few arguments and insults being thrown over and over again counts as 'a fun place for thought experiments.' then either you don't know what thought experiments mean or your standards for what pass for 'thoughts' are extremely low. Hell, there's barely anything that can constitute as an 'experiment' since for the most part people are just speculating shit with little basis since by the one of it, it's a comedy manga.
>>135214082
Yeah, thanks for proving my point. Especially the part where I specifically said that some people can't seem to get that fiction, at its core, functions as a medium of story telling
>>135213557
>Ivan Ooze versus Apocalypse during Ancient Times
>>135190568
I love seeing people getting so mad and butthurt at saitama being stronger than their favourite character.
>>135214151
At no point did I say OPM was good material for powerlevels. It has absolutely no place in powerlevel debates actually. It's a strong guy. How unique.
It's not even close to the higher echelons of power and anyone who insists it is is operating off bullshit.
>>135214250
>stronger
>could've almost died fighting an opponent who should've aimed a little to the left
Nope.
>>135214300
As i said, butthurt. please don't stop.
Also:
>could've
Holy shit just stop.
>>135214300
It's already been said many times he could've made it back anyways.
Look how far we've fallen, /a/.
Why isn't anyone shitposting about how Saitama ruined his own hobby and has no idea how to fix it?
Instead we have stupid what-if scenarios about Saitama not being able to breathe in space or how an alien looking for a good fight would have won if he cheesed and ruined the fight he was looking for.
You think just because someone replied you're doing a good job?
You can do better than this.
Fucking fast food shitposters.
>>135214463
If he's stronger, then he would have better feats than DBZ characters. He's at best Muten Roshi level. From the first season of DB.
>>135214478
How? By doing things that are out of character for him to do? Or for figuring things out that's beyond his intellect to figure out?
Nice headcanon, senpai.
>>135214513
Just punching space would be enough and requires literally no thought.
>>135212403
Boros said he was still holding back, not even showing his fangs.
What he calls 'serious series' is him still not being serious at all. That's the joke, autist-kun.
>>135214550
>punching the vacuum of space
Good luck with that.
>>135213222
>He also lost to that german martial artist in The Twelve Tasks of Asterix
Holy shit really?
>>135214513
>He's at best Muten Roshi level
>I have no proof and im just spitting bullshit
SO-FUCKING-BUTTHURT.
>>135213222
>>135214589
Saitama > Obelix, then.
>>135214586
Space is not a perfect vacuum, it has really low density, but nevertheless has atoms there.
Which means punching "nothing" hard enough would be enough to get the necessary momentum.
>>135214498
Saitama would lose to Goku a hundred times
>>135214606
see >>135212510
Nice logic, senpai.
Also, I was being generous. He isn't really Muten Roshi level because at least Kami Sennin blew up the moon in its entirety.
>>135214628
>Space is not a perfect vacuum
What little matter is there isn't enough for him to propel himself back to earth.
He also has never used his punches to propel himself anywhere. That's fanfiction bullshit you're making up to cover up his obvious and blatant weaknesses..
>>135214250
>getting so mad and butthurt at saitama being stronger than their favourite character
I assume most people don't have a ridiculous powerful character as their favorite. Let's see:
http://strawpoll.me/6359969
"Hei look this character is stronger than any other character."
"No he's not."
"Yes he is."
"No he's not"
"Yes he is"
This is how you all look like.
>>135214675
>What little matter is there isn't enough for him to propel himself back to earth.
A single atom is all that is necessary, provided you can act upon that atom with sufficient force.
Newton's first law.
>>135214761
It's Newton's THIRD law you twit
>>135214644
> He's not unbeatable because i say so
Nice logic, kōhai-kun.
>>135214761
>A single atom is all that is necessary
You're presuming feats he hasn't displayed.
>>>/fanfiction.net/
>>135214807
>proving a negative
Burden of proof, senpai.
>>135214718
no we don't
>>135214852
Yes you do.
>>135213150
As bane once said "For you"
For saitama on the other hand, it's child play
>>135214961
You're establishing feats that was never established in canon.
It's little more than headcanon fanon fanfiction bullshit.
>>135214629
Well, at least it was meta.
Reach for the stars, anon.
>>135214761
talking about science in a world where a Japanese talking fish man with 6 pack rapes 'heroes' for breakfast exists , k...
>>135214829
B-but kōhai-kun,saitama is still stronger than any other character and ther's nothing you can do about that. the proof is saitama himself, the manga/webcomic itself, if you don't agree than stop reading it.
Also merry christmas kōhai-kun
>>135215132
>saitama is still stronger than any other character
*in his universe
ftfy fampai.
>arguing about power levels seriously
>for a character that is meant as a gag in a show that pokes fun at the idea of power levels
Fucking autist
>>135215344
Eugenics when.
>>135215318
Unless you go and ask every author who is stronger and they come to an agreement, yes in his universe kōhai-kun.
>>135215344
>arguing about anything in an imageboard seriously
Fucking autist
>>135215481
>implying he isn't the one telling you not to be such a serious autist about a chineese comic that is not serious at all
>can only repeat what someone else says
Spotted the fucking autist.
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