So, now that the dust has settled, what was /a/'s consensus on Owari?
I thought it was pretty damn good, but multiple arcs felt a bit more disjointed than they were in SS.
Best Onee-san.
>>135190004
GAEN A SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
>>135189946
I thought it was great, but best to treat the arcs as unique narratives of their own, sort of like shorter version of SS.
Also love/hate, I couldn't help but think that Gaen was so fuckable.
>>135190069
>Also love/hate, I couldn't help but think that Gaen was so fuckable.
Solid taste there, anon.
>>135190048
Spooky =/= Sexy.
Ougi stole the show for me.
A little bit confusing, but very tanoshii and can't wait for BD's and other monogataris
Music was good too (no not just the Opening but the OST itself)
One thing that never tires me is the formulaic way of closeups shaft does.
Either the camera goes from bottom to top, or from far to close, or many others. My favorite among them being the 'head turns slowly while a high pitched noise plays then cut scene quickly'. I hope this made sense because I should be sleeping now
Those little things man. Fucking love it.
>>135190152
>sleeve dickings
>not sexy
Do you happen to be a homosexual, anon?
>>135190185
I really thought the style was best implemented in a lot of Ougi's scenes. Great stuff.
>>135190152
>>135190244I actually happen to find both Ougi and Gaen very sexy and their screentime this season to be boner-inducing. What's wrong with me?
>>135189946
Owari 1 was great and restored my interest in the series, but the last episode didn't live up to my hype. Owari 2 was good, particularly the last two episodes, but it felt too dragged out overall.
>>135190185
>Music was good too (no not just the Opening but the OST itself)
Maybe I'll change my position on this like I did with Tsuki when I listen to the OST in full a few months from now, but I didn't think the soundtrack was all that great.
>>135190185
>One thing that never tires me is the formulaic way of closeups shaft does.
Kanbaru got some excellent ones in the Shinobu Mail arc, to the point where I was taking snapshots (which is something I rarely do).
Still missing some chapters hoping release it all this year
>>135189946
First half suffered from poor pacing which is nothing new to the series.
After Kizu what is left to adapt?
>>135190483
he can go on technically forever
>>135190346
>What's wrong with me?
Absolutely nothing, anon. They are both sexy, but in very different ways and for very different reasons.
>>135190483
Plenty.
>>135190542
Exactly. Both care about you in their own ways as well.
>sandwich between the two never
>>135189946
All the Owari arcs were very strong in terms of plot - arguably stronger than many of those in SS. Sodachi's in particular were refreshing as it's a long time since we've had a new significant character, but it's sorta sad that her story largely exists in isolation within the series. That said, I think a few things in her arcs could have been a bit better explained (although I really enjoyed the /a/ discussions surrounding the circumstances of her mother's death).
Shinobu Mail was quite fantastic, although the pacing was a bit odd (reminded me a lot of Nise in that way). Really highlighted how great a character Kanbaru is though and the interplay with Tsubasa Tiger was very well executed. Gaen's much criticised info dump episode was unfortunate but necessary as far as I'm concerned. Humour was particularly good in this arc.
I felt that the music was a bit lacking overall, but I think that could be more down to my own personal tastes.
>been marathoning monogatari so much I can hear koyomi narrate in my mind
help
>>135190653
>Ougi and Gaen
>currently the two biggest opposing forces in the series
>sandwich
T-this needs to be a thing.
>>135189946
Another poor installment following the trend started with Hana. I know Zokuowari is going to be amazing so I can't wait for it.
>>135191071
>tfw waiting for the mongatari series to end so you can watch everything chronologically
>>135191110
>I know Zokuowari is going to be amazing so I can't wait for it.
>knowing how Shaft will adapt this
Psychic powers?
>>135191188
I plan to do this after the main overarching narrative ends. It should be great.
>>135191188
>he's gonna wait 5 centuries
>>135191110
>Another poor installment following the trend started with Hana.
>implying Owari is anywhere near as weak as Hana
>implying Tsuki was bad
>>135191188
But why
There are reasons why it's not done chronologically in the first place
Even the books aren't chronological
>>135191363
Like, I'm currently watching everything in airing order like everybody else. But I feel there is a lot to be gained in going back watching everything chronologically afterwards.
>>135191204
There's no way to fuck up Zoku.
>>135189946
Owari 1 was okay but I honestly hope Oishi is back for Owari part 2.
>>135191523
>There's no way to fuck up X
Famous last words.
>>135191615
>but I honestly hope Oishi is back for Owari part 2.
Has he been away since Bake, or was he involved one of the Monogatari's since?
God tier until Sodachi arc ended. Alright afterwards.
Owari > Tsuki > Hana
>>135191655
Because of his involvment with Kizu, he hasn't been in anything since Bake.
>>135191736
>you will never look into ougi and see the abyss
>>135191771
Ah, wasn't aware of that. Kizu better have some Redline "7 HAND DRAWN YEARS" levels of brilliance at this rate.
Gaen is like 35.
>>135191771
If then, wouldn't he keep working on the last two parts of Kizu instead of the TV series unless Owari 3 and Kizu is airing at least mid 2017 so he can finish the former?
>>135191952
>smug crustacean
>>135191985
I meant Owari 3 and Zokuowari.
why is the black-eyed soulless bitch so retarded and pushy?
>>135191952
it looks like her eyes have gone crazy
>>135190152
I want to kiss that belly button
>>135191973
She's looking well for her age.
Then again, have you seen Mamararagi? She pushed out 3 babbies and she looks like she was a goddess.
>>135192079
jealous and literally could not stop talking about hana's tits
>>135192079
Ougi is 2spooky4you, anon. It's okay to admit that you can't handle the spookiness.
>>135192125
*is a goddess
>>135191973
She's one hell of a qt for a 35 yo.
Ougi made the series
I don't think I would've enjoyed it of Ougi wasn't in it
>>135191985
>>135192036
Owari 3 and Zoku are probably airing in 2017 though. We're getting 2 movies and Koyomi next year.
>>135192079
That's her appeal. Raping other people's personal space and rubbing her flat chest against araragi and there's not a thing anyone can do about it.
The only thing that gets her down is losing to big fat cat tats.
>>135192125
Mamaragi's ahoge is majestic, as befit of the queen.
>>135192214
>subtle xenophobia hint
>>135192031
>crustacean
I honestly couldn't help but laugh
>>135192170
>literally could not stop talking about hana's tits
To be fair, they're easily the finest mammaries in the whole of Monogatari.
Ougi is love
Ougi is life
I want to be spooked
>>135191736
I'm generally a Catfag but fuck, that shot of Ougi is making me hard as diamonds.
>>135192216
>The only thing that gets her down is losing to big fat cat tats.
That is the power of the cat tats. May they never be underestimated.
Seriously, the Ougi-Hanekawa showdown was probably my highlight of the series.
>>135191846
>look into ougi
>look into Ougi's petite/slender body
Thank you Spooky Ougi
>>135191736
You never see Ougi's teeth, do you?
Like you can see everyone else's teeth occasionally when they speak, but never Ougi's.
I think it's intentional to fit with her porcelain white skin, black soulless eyes, off-colour looking uniform, and her curveless and stunted body.
>yfw
>>135192418
>Seriously, the Ougi-Hanekawa showdown was probably my highlight of the series.
I'm not even a Catfag, and I can't help but agree with you on that. It was glorious.
>>135192515
>no visible teeth
>porcelain white skin
>black soulless eyes
>curveless and stunted body
The dick rises
Shinobu Mail was great. Dat Episode appearance. I'm too hyped now.
unfair.
>>135192515
>stunted body
How is it stunted?
>mfw we didn't get to see the bra Araragi bought for Kanbaru
>>135192812
Stunted might be a little much, considering how she looks to have a fine ass if I do say so myself.
>>135192812
She's short and underdeveloped, anon.
Mayoi has a bigger bust than her.
>>135192878In the BDs
>>135192878
It was probably exactly like one Senjougahara has,
>>135192898
Pls no bully.
>>135192917
Shaft doesn't tend to add scenes to their BDs if I recall correctly,
>>135192917
>smug molluscan
>>135189946
Everything beside episode 1 is shit.
>>135192969
Not that anon but they really do. Like so.
>>135193024
that floor looks very slippery
>>135192969
What if we ask nicely
>>135193048
Kanbaru likes to live dangerously.
>>135193024
What am I looking at exactly?
>>135193024
Is that a BD scene from Hana?
>>135193024
so this is where araragi and tooe have sex
>>135193111
It seems to be Kanbaru about to sit in a bath. It's a pretty important scene.
I heard rumours that Senjougahara may have shared this very same bath with Kanbaru.
>>135193160
Yes. It has Kanbaru taking a bath with shiny water effects. How could you have missed this?
>>135193160
Yup
>>135193194
Correct. It's pretty rough sex as well. Araragi comes out pretty sore afterwards but he's happy for Tooe's inappropriate touching.
I'm pretty happy that scene actually happens since Koyomi Water foreshadowed it pretty neatly.
>>135192955
Her ass is fine, I'll admit.
>>135192969
But bullying the smug ougi and seeing her look defeated is so spooky-cute.
Spoote.
Spute.
>>135193358
>>135193194
>tooe
Is that who I think it is? Absolute milf-hunter
>>135193234
>I heard rumours that Senjougahara may have shared this very same bath with Kanbaru.
Who are your sources? Out with them!
>>135193332
Because I didn't watch the BDs?
>>135193358
>Correct. It's pretty rough sex as well. Araragi comes out pretty sore afterwards but he's happy for Tooe's inappropriate touching.
W-wait what???
>>135193457
It is exactly who you think it is. Araragi doesn't let anything stop him and his rampage. Come heaven or hell, no distance or time is too long.
Not even this world can contain Araragi's lust
>>135193332
I think the vast majority fell asleep through Hana
>>135193358
>pretty sore afterwards but he's happy for Tooe's inappropriate touching.
she was that wild huh
>>135193512
Koyomi Water. Araragi takes a bath at Kanbaru's house, they have a bit of a discussion about it and near the end of the book Araragi speaks to Senjougahara about the mystery of the bath, she off-handedly mentions that she took a bath with Kanbaru.
>>135193514
Yeah man, Araragi is just laying in the bath and Tooe comes along and put her hands all over him.
>>135193604
She is pretty wild. Kanbaru got her wildness from her.
I also wouldn't be surprised if she also got a little of the perversion from her as well.
>>135193654
>Araragi is just laying in the bath and Tooe comes along and put her hands all over him.
So, this is never be animated, right?
>>135193784
It is going to get animated. I can't see how they can't unless the voice actors die.
>cutting this glorious hair
crime against humanity. see you in the hague court.
>>135193654
>she off-handedly mentions that she took a bath with Kanbaru.
It's absolutely criminal how little we get of Crab/Monkey interactions.
>>135193784
It is, Zoku is going to be the masterstroke. SHAFT doesn't avoid making tons of cash and Zoku is going to be a big cash maker.
>>135193512
>tfw not many people witnessed Monkey's glorious bath scene
Shinobu got rekt
>>135193902
It's because the series is from Araragi's POV. We can tell from how Kanbaru and Senjougahara talk about eachother and how Senjougahara tries to be a special person for Kanbaru we can deduce that their relationship has patched itself up incredibly well given the circumstances.
>>135193654
>Yeah man, Araragi is just laying in the bath and Tooe comes along and put her hands all over him.
I'm so hard right now, you have no idea.
>>135193848
My body will need years of preparation to be appropriately ready.
>>135193957
Well, I guess I'm watching Hana again this Christmas. Here's hoping it's being seeded on Nyaa.
>>135194096
Hard enough that Kokorowatari would break on your dick?
>>135194029
I understand all that. It's still bullshit. I mean we had an entire arc from Kanbarus perspective and I think Senjougahara was mentioned once.
Then again both Hanekawa and Kaikis perspectives featured lots of Crab so I can't be too mad.
>>135194169
When confronted with inappropriate touching from an older lady? Then yes, quite possibly.
>>135194199
Hanamonogatari only mentioned Senjougahara twice because of when it was set.
Senjougahara is too busy with college and Kanbaru is lonely.
You'd need to have Kanbaru going to college, have it from her perspective and not have oddities as the key mover for the book for there to be Monkey/Crab shenanigans that expand on their relationship outside Araragi.
>>135194246
>inappropriate touching
It's just karma. You molest lolis and MILFs molest you.
>>135194246
A dead GHOST old lady.
>>135194354
>>135194371
You know, I don't mind this one bit.
>>135194354
>You molest lolis and MILFs molest you.
The circle of life is a beautiful thing.
ougi booty
>>135194354
>You molest lolis and MILFs molest you.
So if I molest both Shinobu and Yotsugi, can I get Izuko and Tooe to molest me?
>>135194500
>>135195338
Look at that incredible flatness. It's perfect.
>>135194572
I think that molesting Shinobu gets you molested by Kiss-Shot. Going for Yotsugi seems like it's a good half of your plan though.
>>135194572
>Izuko and Tooe
>molesting you
Yes please.
>>135194500
>>135195338
>Spooky Ougi becomes Ougi Booty
The circle is complete.
>>135195464
>I think that molesting Shinobu gets you molested by Kiss-Shot.
sugoi
>>135194572
>MILF sisters
Wow
>>135195613
Sugoi indeed.
You are now hungry.
Owari was very good, but most of the threads were garbage because it gave people way too much shitposting material.
Someday we'll meet again, adult snail
>>135196099
Absolutely not, the threads were pretty good for the most part. At least for Monogatari threads.
What was you guys' favourite arc? Definitely the first one for me because it's the first time we had an Araragi/Ougi one.
>>135196099
>used to watch the series in one go and not wait week after week
>decide not to partake in the threads because the shitposting would be intense
>filter everything monogatari related for 12 weeks
>watch it in a day few days ago
>remove filters
feels great.
>>135196247
The rest were great, but first really topped it for me.
>>135196247
anything with kanbaru, araragi, cat and ougi
>>135196247
Sodachi's arcs were consistently good, but Shinobu Mail had the best scenes. I liked Shinobu Mail the best.
>>135196247
Sodachi Riddle and Lost. I enjoyed how each episode ended in an usually fake cliffhanger and had me anxious for the next, and they still didn't disappoint.
>the intense scene between shionbu and kanbaru in the temple
holy fuck did not expect that, I thought Kanbaru was going to confess her love to her but that was just wow. She got huge ovaries for pulling that stunt off.
I've watched all the other gataris but I haven't made it though the first episode yet. Each new series I see gets more and more like one of those Tarantino "witty dialogue scenes" stretched out over 30+ minutes.
Bake was great with the relationship stuff.
>>135189946
Ougi Formula was a decent arc.
Sodachi Riddle was great, especially the first episode.
Sodachi Lost was absolutely sublime, and Sodachi Lost 02 is probably the second best episode of the entire Monogatari Series.
Shinobu Mail was a bit uneven, but more Kanbaru was a plus; shame there was so much Gaen exposition.
In all, it was a solid season of Monogatari, and I'm sad there isn't much left.
>>135197927
Tarantino dialogue has more substance to it. Bake dialogue are just characters repeating and reaffirming the same topic over and over.
I used to think that Ougi and Kaiki were related since they both give that creepy aura
>>135198087
So Kevin Smith dialogue, then.
>>135191036
>vagina bones
Dick = muh
>>135192809
No one would argue about who best girl is if Adult Mayoi was around.
>>135190592
Please stop Nisio
>>135197588
I'm pretty sure that this speech applies to Araragi as well.
>>135196268
I did similar except I split it into the two arcs. Side benefit of this strategy is you get all the excitement of watching new monogatari without waiting another 2 years.
>>135200023
Will these two semen demons ever get another arc again?
I really liked the first 2 arcs. Sodachi is the best character that's been introduced since Kaiki, and everything about her and her arc hit all of the right buttons with me.
The second half was weaker. The whole arc with Bat's 1st servant felt more like narrative housecleaning than entertainment and I enjoyed it about as much Neko black or the end of Nise.
It was almost as garbage as Nise, except it didn't have a single memorable scene.
>>135196247
>God Tier
Tsubasa Cat, Tsubasa Tiger, Hitagi End, Sodachi Lost
>Great Tier
Hitagi Crab, Suruga Monkey, Karen Bee, Nadeko Medusa, Sodachi Riddle
>Good Tier
Mayoi Snail, Nadeko Snake, Tsukihi Phoenix, Shinobu Mail
>Okay Tier
Tsubasa Family, Suruga Devil, Yotsugi Doll, Ougi Formula
>Meh Tier
Mayoi Jiangshi, Shinobu Time
Top 5 episodes:
1. Tsubasa Cat Part 2
2. Sodachi Lost Part 2
3. Tsubasa Tiger Part 5
4. Shinobu Time Part 4
5. Tsukihi Phoenix Part 1
>>135200375
>except it didn't have a single memorable scene.
Not even anything to do with Spooky Ougi?
>>135200694
Wow, for once it's not a bad list actually and one that I can mostly agree with.
>>135200694
Good list, only complaint is that I like Tsubasa Family way more than Tiger and Cat.
>>135200694
>Karen Bee
my swarth bloodbounder
>>135200694
>Two Owari episodes in the top 5
>No Bake episode 12
>No Koi part one
You tried at least.
>>135201850
There's only one Owari episode in there and that episode in question was pretty good.
>>135201850
Also, Tsubasa cat part 2 is Bake 12
>>135201850
Bake 12 is Tsubasa Cat Part 2, numbnuts.
>>135201850As a side note, are there bait-related monogatari images?
>>135201990
>>135202172
>>135202182
Oh I'm retarded my bad.
I honestly think she isn't omniscient but rather has a way of gathering information/spying on people's minds & memories
she's intriguing as fuck
>>135202973
>I honestly think she isn't omniscient but rather has a way of gathering information/spying on people's minds & memories
>she's intriguing as fuck
ofcourse I forget the image damn it it its time for bed
>>135202973
Of course she's not omniscient you dense nigga. She's just smart and has a strong information network. Her "I know everything" catchphrase is meant to be pure arrogance to contrast Hanekawa's disingenuous humility. She doesn't literally know everything -though as far as the narrative is concerned that distinction is irrelevant. She knows everything relevant to the story because that's her purpose.
>>135200903
hahaha nice meme!
>>135203234
You got a response, anon. Well done! The consolation prize!
Maybe next time you can make a good post. Maybe next time.
>>135203272
Thanks, I appreciate it.
>>135203234Here's your (You)
>>135203164
Thank you anon.
>Hanekawa's disingenuous humility.
You hit it right on the hammer
>>135189946
Personally I thought this season was better than the first half of SS, but the SS kaiki arc was the best the series has ever been so if can't really been topped.
just remove the episode where gaen does literally nothing but talk and it's legitimately a 9/10 show
>>135206046
Shinobu mail was pretty mediocre even without that episode.
I blame the heavy presence of kanbaru.
>>135206179
>I blame the heavy presence of kanbaru.
Blasphemy
>>135191615
Technically Owari 2 was Mail, but be patient and you will be rewarded in Owari 3
>>135206179
Gaen and the general lack of direction lead to Mail being a weak arc. I think the fact that it tried to keep the viewer/reader in the dark and keep the actual goings on as mysterious as possible were part of the problem. It never presented any intriguing intrigue and instead was just a dull and narrow path stumbling through a series of seemingly meaningless encounters and ending in a wall of fucking profoundly uninteresting text by Gaen as she infodumped the entire fucking narrative in a chapter.
The writing in Shinobu Mail was simply weak. The only good part of it was the phone conversation between Koyomi and Hitagi.
>>135192216
Owari 3 is apparently airing summer 2016.
with Zoku probably in late 2016
if we're lucky
I hope we're lucky
>>135200694
>Tsukihi Part 1
I think we all know why
>>135206563
I really doubt it, if we gent owari 3 in summer. zoku wont problably air until 2017
>>135190592
Koyomimonogatari when?
>>135207671
In a couple of weeks.
>>135189946
It was good but then Araragi betrayed Hitagi and let her die. And after that he continues to lie to her. Series is dead for me now.
>>135208174
I was under the impression that he's told Senjougahara at least how important Shinobu is to him and she was cool with it.
So Araragi didn't bang Ougi ?
>>135192031
Are you american?
>>135194469
This is great material for those yearbook threads we get every june
>>135200694
I've watched the whole series and I still have trouble remembering some of the arcs without looking them up. You have a good memory
the double header first episode was great
>>135207035
I actually had trouble coming up with a fifth, so I went with an exquisitely presented fanservice episode. Plus that whole episode's fun, with Karen doing flips and shit while pivoting around Koyomi's neck, or when he kicks her into the stratosphere.
>>135209665
the people that actually remember the specific episodes have watched the series multiple times
>>135210406
Monogatari is good mor multiple rewatches.
>>135208174
>Araragi betrayed Hitagi and let her die
What the fuck?
>>135200694
I really hated Nekomonogatari Shiro and loved Onimonogatari and Kabukimonogatari.
Do I just have shit taste?
>>135209039
caribbean
>>135200125
No, because their own arcs so far were boring.
>>135206179
>I blame the heavy presence of kanbaru.
The heavy presence of Kanbaru the best thing about Shinobu mail, and I ain't even a Monkeyfag.
Monogatari has become a shell of its former self. Everything involving Sodachi was hopelessly mediocre and most of the following arc felt like an exercise in self-indulgence and nothing else. Even Monogatari's idiosyncrasy style feels tacked on and hollow. Ougi is a perfect representation of its decline and lack of humanity. Still better than Hana, though.
>>135216519
>Ougi is a perfect representation of its decline and lack of humanity.
That's the point.
>>135206179
the arc would be nearly unwatchable without her, unless we replaced it with Shinobu
>>135216549
Yeah, that's why I said it.
>>135213256
No. Anon's got a stick up his ass and can't enjoy something without muh character development. Tsubasa's story is shit and so is sodachi's.
>>135216519
This honestly makes me feel like the airing of Owari followed by Kizu isn't coincidental.
>>135216519
Wow that sounds terrible. You should probably stop watching it and coming to threads.
>>135216855
You know, I take that back. Sodachi's story was okay.
My third favourite *monogatari after Bake and Hana.
>>135216855
I've seen the complaints you're talking about I don't know why someone would demand character development when there's already plenty of character exploration. Maybe they didn't drastically change, but we still got to know a whole lot more about them and it was presented in an entertaining way.
Come to think of it, Kabuki had a pretty pivotal bit of character development for Shinobu as its climax as well. So I really can't understand the complaints.
>>135217492
Some people liked hana anon.
Personally I would put it below SS and nise as well as bake. Owari is a bit better I think as well.
>>135217716
Hana is the biggest piece of shit I've seen from the monogatari.
Worst season ever.
>>135206179
Kanbaru was the best thing about mail.
She was single-pawdedly saving anime.
hana: skip 3/4 of an episode because you dont give a shit about rouka
>>135217736
It wasn't a season anon.
Also you have shit taste.
>>135217753
I want to mate with the monkey.
>>135217822
Kaiki was the only good thing about Hana
Fuckin plebfag
>>135217716
I'm not saying that Hana was necessarily bad, but it was so different to the rest of the Monogatari arcs, I find it hard to understand how somebody can consider it their favourite of the Monogatari series.
>>135217839
I want to take monkey out to dinner.And then mate with her.
>>135217869
I agree, but the anon did say it was his third favorite. It's middle of the road for me, better than tsuki and neko.
>>135217911
I consider Tsuki a bit better, if only because of how it's plot integrated with other Monogatari arcs (also the music was great). Hana was very isolated self-contained, which isn't something I tend to look for in Monogatari.
>>135218296
hana had nothing to do with araragi so it was boring as fuck
rouka was some shit girl dropped from the sky that didnt have relevance before and didnt have relevance after
>>135218296
I did not like Tsuki as much mostly because it was just a huge expo dump.
>>135218403
>hana had nothing to do with araragi
and?
>>135218403
Neko shiro had nothing to do with Araragi and yet it was one of the best arcs.
>>135218461
>>135218485
girls interacting with araragi generally makes things more interesting
>>135217882
>>135217839
I want Monkey to mate with Bee, Crab, me and Spooky Ougi.
>>135218634
It is nice and he does show up at the end in both arcs.
Neko shiro was still one of the best arcs regardless.
>>135217869
Didn't help that Numachi was quite boring as Monogatai girls go.
>Kizu screening in my city
>one week after Japan
That's the dream!
Why did she get a design?
>>135219892
>star athlete
>suffers crippling injury
>exacerbated by home troubles commits suicide
>becomes ghost who haunts people's misfortune lightning their worries for them
>haunted by her action, suicide, that she took to solve her situation she believes reckless action is worse than none and vows to remove the devil parts form the world that enable it
>boring
No you're just an idiot
>>135200694
Excellent list. Only about to start SS but I more or less agree
>>135200694
I would switch snail and crab.
Also Devil should be in good tier.
>>135220053
are you sarcastic, all those things scream "dont care"
>>135218421
This and the fact that it felt like stepping stone for what's to come.
>>135220053
Different anon butthis just reminded how much I actually enjoyed Hana for Numachi's character.... damn.
>>135220271
Well then that's a you problem.
>>135218671
Patrician taste. I would add a Shinobu tho.
>>135220053
Those are just things she did. As a character she was boring.
>>135221343
Nah, Shinobu is for bullying the Monkey.
>>135222004
Things she did because of the experiences she had and what she felt. What makes a not boring character?
>>135222051
But monkey was the one bullying shinobu.
Post Xmas gataris.
>full version of Decent Black gets spooky
I really like this OP. Probably third or fourth favorite monogatari OP.
>>135222901
>full version of Decent Black gets spooky
Has that been released yet?
>>135222954
Yes. I am listening to it right now.
>>135222954
ye its torrentable
>>135222901
I ended up liking it more than I thought I would.
This thread gave me the stick up my ass to organize the mess that my Monogatari folder had become and I only just realized that the Coalgirls release of Onimonogatari does not include the NCOP.
Why the fuck would they arbitrarily do that? God I hate their releases.
I don't get Araragi. First he says he's happy in Sodachi Lost, then he says he's not happy at the end of Shinobu Mail and the first thing he says in Mayoi Hell is that he feels so much gratitude and happiness towards his loved ones that he was no longer willing to sacrifice his life for Hachikuji's sake. Is Nisio doing this on purpose?
>>135223518
Shinobu Mail happened before Sodachi Lost, ding dong.
>>135223567
The narration of Shinobu Mail is around 5 months after Sodachi Lost.
>>135223567
He was narrating to Ougi after though.
>>135223603
>>135223611
Oh, looks like I was the ding dong after all.
>>135222954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfS_2Y02a9g
>>135190244
>sleeve dickings
I want this meme to stop
>>135199085
thisit would still be shinobu
>>135223760
I want to live that meme everyday for the rest of my life.
>>135223760
>not wanting sleeve dickings
confirmed gay
>>135223518
Well what he said in the beginning of Mayoi hell is that his convictions were flimsy at best. He was probably lying to sodachi anyway, as he said since Mayoi died everything's been pretty shitty.
>>135223518
Well, after Nadeko Medusa it's natural to not be very happy. And by Sodachi Lost he was barely happy, he just overrated it to sell the idea that Sodachi could be happy if she tried.
>>135223926
Sodachi happened before medusa.
>>135223975
I meant the dialogue at the end of Shinobu Mail. He said he was happy during Sodachi Lost, which was before that.
Guys, just post the damn timeline.
>>135223926
Yeah didn't cat leave at this point as well?
>>135224019
Yeah, you're right then. I do think he lied to sodachi, but not for that reason. He didn't know anything about her except that she hated him at the time he said that.
>>135223292
Opinion question: Does it make sense to organize the anime releases in folders based on the novel seasons despite the fact that some of the anime seasons correlate differently?
Second Season, for example, has most of it, but Hana is a different release. Third season would contain Tsuki and Owari, but then later we're going to have Owari 3, but that would be a different anime series even though it's part of the same novel series.
Too autistic to let this stand, not autistic enough to know the right way to do this.
>>135224039
>Kizu (Never)
Update it boys.
>>135224141
I just rewatched the classroom scene in episode 2 and at least with the subs it didn't seem like he said he was happy then, he just assumed that Sodachi thought he was happy and argumented that she seemed to hate happy people.
Sodachi also said something kinda weird to Senjougahara, as if she had realized that about Araragi already.
>>135224294
I actually organize them by seasons so yeah, I'd put Hana with SS (any faggot who denies this is just that).
>>135224639
But I might be overthinking and she simply said that because she sees him as the most ungrateful person on the world.
>>135192703
Don't stick your dick into spooky, anon.
>>135223518
When Araragi says he's not happy in Shinobu Mail he's calling back to the end of Kizu where he says he chose the compromise that would make both him and Shinobu miserable. So it's a convoluted way of saying that his relationship with Shinobu hasn't progressed and/or that he doesn't want it to progress.
tc;du Araragi was lying about being unhappy during Shinobu Mail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0tp0K0Aeik
It's on youtube now for the people who are as slow as me if not slower.
Considering the year we had, it's easily AOTY.
>>135224639
Why is sodachi such a womanlet
>>135225571
Shorter girls lengthen my dick.
>>135223694
Thanks anon.
>>135224491
I didn't think I'd live to see this day.
>>135225170
so they are out? what about mein schatz and mathemagics
>>135224671
>any faggot who denies this is just that
I don't think anybody would deny that, anon. Both Hana and Tsuki were meant to be part of the SS, but then SS became too long so they were cut. Personally I'm just glad we got them at all.
>>135225571
Unlike manlets, being a womanlet isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>>135225707
pedo detected
>>135225803
>150-155 cm is now pedo
Ok.
>>135225758
Mathemagics in a month.
It took half the first episode but then I was fully into Owari.
>>135225571
Malnutrition by having parents who obviously didn't care about her nutrition and later sharing food with a corpse while having no house income outside of government assistance. Living in high insanitary conditions didn't help either.
But I'd guess she is just as short in zoku.
>>135226077
What the fuck is the bag on her head anyway?
>>135226121
Can't be a touhou without a stupid hat.
Okay so during the last arc of Owari, Hanekawa was fighting the tiger, but apparently Senjogahara was dealing with something too. What was it? I don't remember her doing anything.
>>135226561
She was not dealing with anything. She was sleeping
>>135226561
Her house was next on the burn list.
>>135226615
>Alalaigi fighting a vampire.
>Hanekawa fighting a tiger.
>Kanbaru sprinting to save Senjo
>Hitagi is sleeping.
Left out again.
>>135226615
>>135226723
Oh, okay. Thanks anon.
>>135213256
Both Onimonogatari and Kabukimonogatari have great high points, like the final episode of Kabuki with Adult Mayoi and the showdown vs. Kisshot, or the final episode of Oni with Mayoi's departure. The problem with those arcs is that the pacing is completely fucked, either due to the way it was written or the way Shaft adapted it, where the obligatory expository dialogue episodes completely kill the pacing, and despite both of those arcs containing a fairly heavy amount of Mayoi, there isn't a lot of the witty banter that makes the show fun.
I liked Neko Shiro because it was a great conclusion to Hanekawa's character arc, and the Hanekawa/Gahara banter is a great source of comedy. Plus it did a good job of portraying the world from another character's point of view, much like Koimonogatari did, and shows that all of the characters are developed well enough that you can have an arc that doesn't revolve around Araragi and still have it be compelling.
I'm not saying that Oni and Kabuki are necessarily bad; they're just kind of a slog to go through on a rewatch.
>>135225543
Shirobako was this year.
Otherwise yeah.
>>135226759
Crab was busy molesting cat, tricking bee into letting cat stalk Araragi by proxy in his room and then greeting monkey warmly.
>>135226121
Can't be a jiangshi without a stupid hat
>>135227666
Don't forget offering herself up to scummy old men.
>there are anons who killed themselves thinking kizu is never going to happen
Can someone tell me the appeal of this show? It just seems like a normal harem with a lot more words and nicer animation.
>>135228664
>Can someone tell me the appeal of this show?
Only you can tell you the appeal of this show.
>>135228664
>monogatari
>normal harem
>>135228664
>nicer animation.
I'm afraid you've made an error, my friend
>>135228664
>nicer animation
You mean nicer visual direction.
>>135228664
- Banter
- Shaftservice
- Promotion of good oral hygiene
- Well-developed characters, and not just different hair color + stock haremite personality
- Protag who will stop at nothing to molest lolis
>>135227784
No that's later.
>>135228861
I think the main draw is that Araragi actually has flaws that are meaningful and addressed during the show.
Unlike all the other protags who's flaw is being "too nice" with the consequences of getting everyone around them wet.
>>135228664
I agree with this guy. >>135229026
was he a virgin
>>135229926
He was raped by Mamaragi
>>135228768
I watched the first two episodes and it seemed very boring and pretentious.
>>135228835
>>135228782
Oops.
>>135228861
The first character that was the tsundere was just a generic tsundere. The show pointing out she was doesn't make it any better. Is she more fleshed out later on?
>>135230935
Finish Mayoi Snail. If you don't like it at the end of that arc, this isn't the show for you.
>>135231006
Okay, I will watch further then. Thanks.
>>135228664
teenage problems, supernatural, word play, shaft
>>135223008
>>135223016
full ost when?
>>135231006
>>135231057
That's some pretty shitty advice.
It's an aquired taste and the snail arc is very slow and winding.
I would wait until after Suruga Monkey to see if you drop it or not.
>>135190185
waiting for that aweosme OST
>>135191736
tsuki > owari > everything else > hana
>>135231455
literally any other taste > your taste
>>135217869
Hana was bad. I rewatched everything halfway through Owari. Before, I thought Cat's arcs were boring, but I had no idea what I was in for.
There was an episode with Numachi just telling her backstory which we already half knew. This new character I don't care about speaking for an entire episode. It's the absolute worst. No wonder I didn't remember a thing.
Now I do like the Neko arcs. I don't think they're the greatest, as I don't care about whether or not something has character development, but they were very good.
>>135223292
Ask Shaft. There is no NCOP for Onimonogatari anywhere.
>>135231716
>as I don't care about whether or not something has character development
>>135231716
It sounds like monogatari is not for you.
Are you sure everything you have seen of it was not just youtube clips of fanservice?
>>135231942
Now why would you say that? Is it because I enjoyed every arc except Hana, which had plenty of naked Kanbaru that I forgot existed?
>>135232027
Hana had hardly any naked Kanbaru and even that was in the BD.
The disbelief comes from almost every arc having a shit ton of character exposition/monologue that you forgot somehow.
Like Sodachi talking about her past and Araragi talking about his in Owari. Gaen sperging about shit in the latter half. The giant Yozuru monologue in tsuki and so on.
>>135231716
>not liking character developments in a character-driven show
A-anon, I think I have to tell you something...
>>135232181
A new character I didn't like telling her story that was already partly explained is worse than all the other info dumps.
>>135232228
Character interactions and the characters themselves, as well as their stories beforehand, is more interesting to me. And I didn't say I didn't like it, in fact I said I liked it whether or not it was present.
>>135190592
>plenty
Where? all i see is that SHAFT already animated most of it, am i missing something here?
>>135232301
It was not explained before though. Unlike neko kuro.
>>135192214
I want more of her
>>135232304
Yes, over the course of half a decade, they've managed to animate technically most of it.
There is still plenty more.
>>135208174
Fuck you
>>135208174
betrayed? from the very beginning to end, shinobu is the most important one for him
>>135234705
> the most important one for him
This is a laughably impossible to verify statement.
Araragi's priorities are like a weather-vane in a hurricane.
I love Ougi but I despise her.
She's such a smug creepy little cunt.
The true villain of this series.
Her OP is also really good.
oh is it over?
I was under the impression that it was a 26 episode eason
>>135234705
he didn't care for her during bake. Araragi always puts what's in front of him as priority
>>135228664
>the harem is resolved in 12 episodes
>shaft + nision dialogue is a really good mix
>actual character development
>good to great dramatic arcs
>lots of quirky, unique personalities, in particular after with the specialists
>viewpoint protagonist that changes from harem lead, to 'perfect girl', to moe loli, to grumpy old man
>different arcs and different protagonists means a lot variety in terms of thematics and tone, which means the show keeps itself fresh
>there's nothing like it
>>135235119
>I love Ougi but I despise her.
tsundere spotted
>>135191036
>Gaen's much criticised info dump episode was unfortunate but necessary as far as I'm concerned.
She just kept repeating herself, saying the same things over and over again, repeatedly alternating between stuff we already knew and stuff she already told us, going in circles repeating herself for no justifiable reason.
>>135235148
I'm glad. I love Shaft but fuck if they can manage to keep on a 13 episode schedule, let alone when they get cocky and try a 26 or two simultaneous shows.
>>135227598
>fall 2014
That's not how this works, anon.
>>135237931
Second cour was 2015.
>>135238159
Doesn't count unless it's split cour. Multiple cour shows count for the year they began.
>>135229124
my butt is better
fuck you gaen you piece of shit
Only just got into this series with reading Kizu, but goddam does Gaen look fuckable. Literally Meme: The Character was my favourite from Kizu, so I'm happy to hear about the angle of him, Gaen and Kaiki being friends in further books.
What was on the paper?
>>135189946
SPOOGIE OOGIE
Did anybody buy the Kizu novel release? How was the translation?
>>135239724
A suicide note, confessing that she killed her mother but was in denial.
>watching a harem anime where the mc is already tied down to the shittiest girl
What's the point of this show exactly?
>>135192235
>personal space
How does one rape their own personal space?
>>135239621
pics or it didn't happen
>>135239941
Watching the other girls flirt shamelessly with him knowing that.
>>135191454
this it's like haruhi
some of the stuff just makes more sense chronologically
>>135190426
Probably after Koyomimonogatari, since the last bits of that are important to the end of Owari
I want to bend Oikura over the table and bum her.
The simple things in life.
>>135240577
Is lip biting one of the greatest things in existence?
>>135240718
She was happy with me.
>>135240577
Oh man that expression. It's like she's taking some rough anal for the first time, and while finding it a bit painful, is actually really getting off on it.
>>135240577
How do we save Oikura?
>>135240999
by having bat take us to a universe where she doesnt have severe daddy and mommy issues
>>135240999
Just tell her that she is only miserable because she wants to be.
>>135240999
Make Nisio write enough arcs she gets her much needed character development and hope that Shaft adapts all of them.
>>135240999
See:
>>135240867
>rough anal
>>135241483
if someone has shitty childhood they have those issues for the rest of their lives, thats why you never date women with daddy issues
>>135240999
Take her on severaltrips.
>>135241592
But she doesn't have just daddy issues, she also has mother issues, childhood friend issues, class issues, teacher issues and self issues. They might cancel each other in the end.
>>135241735
shes either ending up in jail for sexually abusing kids or she kills her kids and herself at some point
>>135241592
Thankfully Senjougahara's daddy issues only involve her being a fathercon.
>>135241808
The first one is kind of hot, I hope she also seduces them with math.
What's shaft going to do after Kizu? Will they do The Memorandum of Kyoko Okitegami?
>>135242131
will shaft milk their most pop series or will they not
only time will tell
>>135216519
As much as I hate to admit it, this statement is...not wrong.
>>135240718
Why does SHAFT do this?
>>135242197
its sexy? nimble and agile people are better for breeding
>>135242197
for the memes
>>135240718
I'll do it! I'll think she'll be a lovely waifu once you resolve her issues.
>>135240769
Yes.
>>135240867
Indeed.
>>135240999
Love.
>>135242197
It's the only way Shinbo can get off.
>>135243121
whats up with 1280x720 screenshots?
>>135243312
Araragi can be based as fuck
>>135242197
because fun
>>135200004
Damn this fits so well when you remember he jumps into the end of Tsubasa Tiger right after this.
Did you like her OP?
It's one of series favourites.
>>135244553
yeah its pretty good
shinobi had the better one though just because of the byzantine feeling to it
>>135200694
Great list. Completely agree except I'd swap Nadeko Medusa and Sodachi Lost.
>>135244553
I love it, and I hope there is really a unique Sodachi Lost theme sung by Marina Inoue.
mathemagics was great
>>135244989
You took your screenshot too soon so you can't see there her secretly great sized breasts.
sodachi would be pleasant to look at in more shaft works but im not sure her personality would be fun
>>135245275
Life isn't about fun. Just math is.
And we can only hope for Sodachi's following arc to be adapted, and directed by Oishi since he will have already finished Kizu.
>>135245275
That's okay, I just want to fuck her.
>>135246962
It'd be fun to me if she belittles and insults me during sex, particularly because everything she says is probably just as true if not more for her. It's her personality that makes her appearance so sexy.
>>135243580
I wish he acted with the other girls like he acts with his sisters. It might get too lewd with Crab though.
I still don't understand why she was even around. There wasn't any oddities with her.
>>135248659
There are many people around with no oddities, they just usually look like flying kanji.
But why a character with no oddity got so much focus? Then it's because Nisio created the character of each student from Araragi's classroom for Ougi Formula, then he got interested in the class president character he wrote and decided to make her as a parallel of the main girls that never got a chance to become a heroine. And Orokamonogatari focus on her is probably to market the anime, just like Wazamonogatari focus on Shinobu is for Kizu.
>>135189946
I haven't watched the end of shinubu mail yet, but overall owari was shit.
This is getting into some naruto-tier plot inflation. They need to wrap this shit up already.
Your face when you saw this for the first time?
>>135248975
Goddam wizards..thank you anon that clears everything up.
>>135239684
>ignoring Yozuru and Tadatsuru.
The exorcists are collectively the best girls in the series, especially the guys.
>>135208174
Are you legitimately retarded or do you not understand that this happened at the same time as nekoshiro?
>>135222249
Banter and sex appeal
I found myself liking Ougi a lot more after that amazing first episode, and Kanbaru too after Shinobu Mail. Rest of the series was pretty good in my opinion, sometimes it felt a little rough but it's not too bad. Season two was better but I'm content with Owari personally.
>>135248659
Because we needed a story where Araragi couldn't slay an oddity or break out a macguffin to instantly solve the problem. Sodachi's problems run deep, and it's an interesting obstacle for a boy who has a pathological need to help people.
Reading Kizu made me actually like Hanekawa. I used to think she was a shit and all her arcs were the same.
What's that word Ougi constantly uses to insult Araragi?
>>135254634
Oroka, meaning fool.
You might even say orokamono.
>>135226106
So, in one of the later books, Sodachiin the Inverted World lives with Araragi and has a "sibling-like" relationship with him.Is that a normal relationship, or more like Karen and Koyomi's relationship?
>>135226759
Isn't Hitagi's whole point is that she's ordinary and not weird and that's why Araragi loves her?
>>135200694
>Hitagi End part 1 not in top 5 episodes
>>135189946
The Sodachi arc felt really out of place and I could do without Creepy McLongSleeves but overall Owari was an enjoyable piece of monogatari. Can't wait for the next one.
>>135255975
That's because Owari sets up the "second" arc of Monogatari overall, the post-Kizu arc where things go from dealing with oddities to becoming and living in a world of oddities.
>>135255516
The former. Remember, Araragi isa girlover there.
>>135256369
Dammit. Well, I guess Araragi has enough pussy already. Still waiting for Kanbaru to confess.
>>135255437
Thanks, Bill.
>>135255975
Ougi's magnificent, I love her antics. What isn't she responsible for.
>>135231288
This. Didn't start getting into monogatari until monkey arc.
He's looking at us.
>>135189946
Is she a ghost?
No Monogatari today.
I don't get it. So Araragi dies?
>>135257236
Is that when he gets chopped?
Orokamono.
>>135223760
meme has been gone since bake
>>135260370
He was in Neko and in SS.
>>135200375
>Nise
>the benchmark for bottom of the barrel Monogatari
Do people really think this is the low point of the series?
I liked Nise
Is it gay to say Araragi's my husbando?
>>135255578
But he loves more than just Crab. He calls Cat a second mother and cried like a baby begging her to stay at the airport, he was willing to abandon everything to run with Snail for twenty years, he risked Crab to posture for Shinobu in a meaningless duel, he spent months risking being mutilated by a middle schooler without being open with his girlfriend..
The kid is warped.
>>135200375
Nise was the season that got me into monogatari.
>>135261345
Some people hate Nise because there isn't always an immediate or obvious goal and/or meaning to what happens. Some people like the more relaxed character exploration as well as the experience of picking the meaning out of seemingly inane scenes.
>>135262003
But many arcs don't have an immediate or obvious goal or meaning, like Hana, Tsuki and Owari 1.
>>135262172
But Nise was the first season like that so it gets all the hate.
>>135260634
Nise introduced us to Kaiki and Kagenui so it's really hard for me to hate it when those two serve as the respective antagonists at the end of each arc.
More than anything, the stylistic change in the direction is the only thing I miss, but it's all so Kizu can look as good as it seemingly does so I mind it.
>>135260655
Not if I can say that Kaiki's my husbando.
>>135262003
People hated Nise because it shitted over what made Bake good.
>>135262479
so I *don't mind it
>>135262529
Nise is a fucking joke honestly. It had the biggest decline in sales in the series and for good reason.
>>135256369
No he isn't. Did you actually read it?
Nice, she deserves a few doujin at least.
>>135262172
Hana, Tsuki, and Owari 1 had really obvious goals and meanings, what are you talking about? Nise gets flack because there was a stretch of like 3 episodes or something where Araragi did nothing but have inane conversations with different girls. Hana was always about Kanbaru confronting her old rival, Tsuki was about Araragi turning into a full vampire, and Owari 1 was about Araragi confronting his past mistakes.
Tsuki is maybe the closest of those to what Nise did, since Nisio spend 80 pages meandering around in a bath scene.
>>135263388
muh dick
Are we ready for 240p rips of Koyomin?
>>135255516
She flirts with him pretty heavily
>>135263399
I meant clear goals and meaning towards the main story. Owari 1 for example got a lot "why is Araragi helping this new bitch that just left in the end?" and even people recommending to skip everything but the first episode. I didn't think about long inane conversations on Nise since there is some in every story and I always find those entertaining, and at that point it was also fresher.
>>135263650
what did she say?
>still no ougi doujins
JAPAN GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
>>135264407
Do you want toreviewmytheorems?
>>135264485
Considering the amount of fanart she gets, I'd be surprised if she doesn't get a fair amount of doujin.
The entire franchise is overstaying its welcome.
>>135244553
it's ok, but I preferred decent black and mein schatz
>>135264712
Bullcrap. Unlike other franchises this one is getting a complete adaptation.
>>135264712
It's always been a fairly long series so I'd rather we get it all adapted than satiate those who want a shorter run.
Hell it's nearly done anyway (side stories don't fucking count unless you're invested in the characters).
>>135264407
>Heheh! I got praised by Koyomi! Waai!
>Hehe. An indirect kiss with Koyomi!
>Or do you want to watch me get changed? Ah, Koyomi, you're so ecchi. But it's okay, if it's Koyomi. Flash.
etc.
>>135264712
Fuck off you stupid fag, single season adaptations that cover a tenth of the LN content and never get continued are the cancer killing anime.
>>135264712
Welcome to anime, friend. Most franchises are like that.
I hope they keep making monogatari for the next 10 years. Best character design of any anime.
>>135264485
Comiket doujins will be up soon
>>135265785
Looks very digitalized and souless to be honest
>>135226121
A theory I like is that the hat is Ononoki and the rest is just the doll.
>>135266303ayyy
>Kizu screening in Germany
good!
>>135266052
I always thought they looked kind of flat, except during close ups.
>>135242131
The drama was fucking nice, acting aside. I do hope so.
>>135265785
>>135192703
>>135265926
>>135265990
>>135266042
>>135266661
I never knew I wanted these.
>>135266867
I know right
>>135265075
i want to marry her
>>135267227
>her
>>135267243
i don't mind becausei'm a girl anyway
>>135267329Kinky
>>135267329
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>>135189946
Easily bottom tier monogatari
So if Kizu comes out on the 8th, how long until we get a decent quality rip?
>>135267852
>decent quality
>rip
You have waited half a decade to watch this and you're going to watch some shitty camrip. The fuck is wrong with you people?
>>135267852
you won't get anything at least until the american premiere
>>135189946
It was objectively bad overall. Ougi formula was actually nice and gave a false impression that it'd be amazing, mostly because of the kizu trailer at the end, but then it was a downhill after that and everything seemed off, specially the direction. Sodachi arc was unattractive as hell and Shinobu Mail jesus christ Gaen's voice is still ringing inside my head because of all the garbage she kept saying non-spot for 3 episodes straight and it seemed even more pathetic after Araragi defeated the First within 10 seconds using the seal.
Pic related actually gives reason to the untrue forced animation meme.
>>135268177
>you're going to watch some shitty camrip
Fuck yes, I am. Are you crazy? I've waited half a decade for this.
>>135265421
My dick is ready.
>>135189946
overrated
>>135266554
source?
>>135265467
Are you on drugs or just an idiot?
>>135192969
I'm sorry, but I look at that picture and all I can see is a simultaneous cup size lamentation and setup for a spooky rimjob.
I still need to watch Owari and Hana.
Does any of those live up to the last arc of second season? That was probably one of my favourite arcs in a long ass time.
>>135270261
Not even close.
>>135270261
Owari 1 is definitely one of my top 3 arcs, but not everyone enjoyed as much as I did.
>>135270261
Sodachi Riddle/Lost was pretty good.
>>135269223
http://peppermint-anime.de/kizumonogatari/
>>135268326
>objectively bad
Stop using that word when you don't know what it means.
>>135270261
nope. Ougi Dark was good though, just not nearly as good as Hitagi End.
>>135270261
hana is better than hitagi end. hitagi end is literally reddit
>>135268326
>objectively bad
>Sodachi arc was unattractive as hell
Do you even know what the word "objective" means?
>>135270261
>Does any of those live up to the last arc of second season?
No. Especially not Hana.
>>135270942
>hitagi end is literally reddit
Do you even listen to yourself speak?
>>135270942
Nothing is worse than hana
>>135267329
>i'm a girl anyway
>mfw
>>135270942
>hitagi end is literally reddit
You're gonna have to explain that one to me, anon.
>>135270261
Sodachi's arc is almost as good as Hitagi End, mainly because Marina Inoue puts on an award worthy performance.
>>135271163
main reason to make hana was to show people kaiki was alive, otherwise why the fuck would they make such lame arc
>>135270942
>literally reddit
>>>/v/
>>135271056
>>135271331
back to reddit faggots.
>>135271289
They needed to show Araragi's car too. And also monkey's closure.
>>135271417
What are you even fucking talking about? Did you have a stroke? Should I contact emergency services?
>>135271456
it's literally reddit's favorite arc. enjoy your cancerous arc because fellow patricians know that hana is the best arc in the series.
>>135270512
what does it say mein schatz?
>>135271901
Kizu screening in a bunch of German movie theaters as part of the peppermint festival.
>>135270261
Hana was good whenever a second character that isn't Numachi shows up.
>>135193980
even snake beats up bat though
>>135272173
ye, shaft could've skipped rouka entirely
how did they fuck up her characterization so bad?
>>135270261
Owari as a whole is great but you can't fucking top Koi
It was too good