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Rei or Asuka?
>>135096549
Rei
What the hell happened?
>>135096549
Why not both?
mogudan rei
>>135096576
Red > Blue. Always.
Red.
>times Shinji came to rescue Rei: 1
>times Shinji came to rescue Asuka: 0
Asukafag and proud
Rei is by far the best of the two.
>>135097006
Nothing to be proud about, liking "red", aka the bandwagon meme waifu makes you a brainless pleb.
Is there anyone working on translating the DVD extras?
>>135096576
it's spelled Ahsoka
>>135096549
Asuka a best and my waifu.
>>135096702
Always?
>>135096923
because employing the thought process of an unloved edgy kid is what we should all do. kill yourself
The great waifu war is over.
It was already settled that Rei is best girl.
>>135096923
Its like youve never seen magmadiver you retarded faggot
>>135096923
>times Shinji came to Rei: 0
>times Shinji came to Asuka: 1
Rei
>>135096702
>red pleases middle-aged men for free
>red pleases old men for money
Pottery.
>>135100002
Not comatose enough.
>>135098645
You mean Anno's phone interview and such?
They've already been translated, but no one ever put them into subs:
http://pastebin.com/u/TyroLuuki
>>135100188
BRAVO VINCE
Please teach her how to fight, Luke-sensei.
>>135099851
This.
The waifu war was over. Rei won. A long time ago.
Asukafags rely on a zombie-franchise using a representation of Asuka and Rei that are incompatible with the originals, and aren't even in thread.
In other words, Asukafags are leaning on a post-war fantasy that's been spun up to satisfy themselves, much like the loser of WWII, Japan', religiously deny anything that happened and spin themselves as heroes.
>>135100323
>samefagging or circlejerking revionism which is ironically hypocritical
>spacing like a retard
Sasuga.
>>135096549
Neither
>>135096549
Asuka, she's strong and independent.
>>135100323
jesus christ how can you guys deep this down in a fucking waifu war
>>135100389
>butthurt asukafag thinking I'm samefagging to further spin his inane fantasy instead of addressing the point made, either debating it or rebuking it
Sasuga, just proved me right there.
Also, I was of course not samefagging.
>>135099851
ain't me.
>>135100002
>times Shinji has held Rei: 1
>times Shinji has held Asuka: 0
I ship autistic textwalling Reifag with fireposter
>>135100446
>being this defensive
How blatant.
>>135100429
We only went this deep because of Asukafags. Normal, well-adjusted non-otaku fans would simply bask in the glory that is both Asuka and Rei - or rather, Evangelion - but Asukafags are petty, insolent and vengeful - but worst of all, incapable of changing on their own.
It was never enough to be behind Shinji and Rei for them.
>>135096549
Shinji.
one and only
>>135100508
>still accusing me of something I didn't do
>still making up your own fantasy instead of addressing the realities or my point
Keep proving me right tho.
Can't I have both like Shinji does in various doujinshi?
>>135100553
This, you have to be pretty weak to like rei.
>>135100473
Rebuild doesn't matter
>>135100521
agreed
as a fellow Reifag, I have absolutely nothing against Asuka: she's an interesting character, and also cute.
But Asukafags, oh boy, they are the ultimate scum of the Earth.
>>135100323
Rei never won faggot
Moot said Asuka
>>135100627
>>135100521
>replying to yourself, changing to lowercase in an unsubtle effort to disguise
>>135100694
So did Hiroyuki.
>>135100694
Moot abandoned us.
>>135100647
She everything worth winning.
>>135100706
>being this butthurt about having lost
>>135099340
That's by far one of the best cosplay I've seen.
>Inb4 trap
>>135100751
>>135100694
An hiro and moots opinion is worthless, so it doesn't count.
>Asukafags
>rely on authorities to tell them what to like or think
>likes asuka because guaranteed fanservice
>likes asuka because uh, anno and some web administrator does
>religiously deny the original asuka in favor of shikinami
>Reifags
>rely on NGE and NGE alone to help them figure out which is best
>rejects any authority fallacy
>likes best girl, Rei
Yep.
>>135100765
>She everything worth winning
Nice grammar retard.
>>135100706
lol I'm another anon you submissive fag
>>135100843
This, asukafags are omegas who want a dominating bitch with no sense of emotional stability.
>>135100853
it's called ebonics, racist
report to the next diversification centre, cis scum
>>135100886
Define omegas. I always thought they were guys with patrician tastes in women and a whole different take on the sex game.
>>135100886
A dominating bitch who can't dominate anyone, mind you.
Rei's commanding slap and motherly authority commands sons, husbands, men and daughters alike.
Asuka only commands betas.
>>135100843
>14:59:46
>15:00:52
The absolute madman, he's still at it after getting called out twice.
>>135100938
>You will never be this delusional of a Reifag
>You will never be a Reifag
Feels great, man.
>>135100473
>World Cups won by Germans: 1
>World Cups won by clones: 0
>>135100938
>A dominating bitch who can't dominate anyone, mind you.
That's because most men are too pussy to submit.
>>135100942
A lonely Asukafag calling out into the night, shrieking his perceived injustices for no one to hear, looked down upon by the Mods above who know his tomfoolery.
Neither, OP
>>135101001
Asuka is only 1/4th German.
A mutt.
Shikinami isn't German at all, so why is there a Shikinami in that picture?
>>135101009
>perceived injustices
Is that what you call your samefagging? Notice how each time I'm only getting one response, further cementing the fact.
>>135101033
This. It really is sad how Asukafags need to rely on non-asuka/nge related things to promote their waifu.
>>135101049
It's what I call your posts. If I were samefagging, I'd just give you two replies instead of one.
It appears the other anon is not interested in feeding your butthurt, may Mods Confirm.
>>135101002
How the actual fuck does that work.
>>135101227
You can start by shutting your pig mouth and doing what your mistress tells you to do.
>>135101180
>If I were samefagging, I'd just give you two replies instead of one.
Sure, I believe you.
>may Mods Confirm.
Just how new are you? Mods couldn't give a fuck less about you or I and certainly wouldn't post with a capcode just to support you. Get the fuck out.
>>135101260
But my "mistress" in the case of Asuka is a red-haired whore I don't respect on any level whatsoever. I know she's shit. Hell, deep inside she knows she's shit.
There can never be total command. I can pretend to go along with it, but it will be for any other reason than actually submitting.
In my heart, I will never have submitted, and it will be a failure.
>>135101377
Rei is the Ikari bicycle though and thinks less of herself than Asuka does, though.
>>135101260
>being dominated by a "mistress" 4 years younger than me
Yeah, not my fetish.
The girl has to be older and wiser by some significant margin in order for it to work, anon.
>>135099851
>>135100002
>B-but Rei won!
Delusional
As always, Reifags can't get a break
>Asuka won in anime
>Asuka won in manga
>Rei got absolutely rejected and KEKED in Koutetsu no Girlfriend 2nd
>Just when she was about to win for the first time, got BTFO and replaced by a literal clone in Rebuild
>Moot prefers Asuka
>Hiro prefers Asuka
>Anno prefers Asuka
Reifags should just give up, it's embarrassing at this point
>>135101495
>Misato
>wise
>>135101495
Shes weak. Probably doesn't have in it her to smack you a few times because she felt like it.
>>135101527
Not him, but how exactly did Asuka win in the Anime or the Manga?
Unless winning in Eva just means surviving instead of winning the Shinjib owl.
In that case, then yes, Asuka did win.But Kaworu still is the consistent winner of the Shinjib owl.
>>135101538
>>135101601
Never seen any other woman that wanted pity sex with a 14-year-old.
Don't have to tell you who'd be the dominating party in that kind of thing.
>>135101014
Finally, a man of refined taste.
>>135101455
Rei could not be dominated by Gendo, and in the end, he was there screaming Rei's name for mercy. To stop.
Rei can not, due to her indifferent and transient nature, truly be owned like Asuka or others can. Hence when Rei decides it is time to dominate you, you cannot resist at your own deepest level. Rei does not break, but you will.
Struggling and screaming, kicking and denying, of course, you can always do that, and you are expected to do so when dominated properly. Otherwise you're just getting petted.
But Rei has a deeper, more fundamental authority that the likes of Asuka will never have. Rei has a primal, ancient and undeniable essence, that of the primordial mother, who created you, fostered you, made you, or abandoned you. Asuka will only be your peer, but Rei will always be more than you in that regard.
Because Rei can invoke this judgement, she will dominate you physically.
Because Rei can invoke the image of someone more ancient and superior, you will be dominated psychologically.
But most of all, because this punishment, is something Rei can choose not to give, and will not do so unless you deserve it for your actions, your very soul and spirit will be dominated.
The submission is when the full Rei chooses to dominate, total and inadmissable.
>>135101629
In anime by the virtue of not ending up a grinning decapitated half of a face perpetually bleeding into the world and an incorporeal spectre simultaneously; also being alive and the true love interest helps.
In manga by being actually reincarnated and meeting Shinji again
>>135101527
>Asuka won in anime
comatose suicidal bitch
>Asuka won in manga
like how?
>>Rei got absolutely rejected and KEKED in Koutetsu no Girlfriend 2nd
spinoffs? what? didn't even read.
>Just when she was about to win for the first time, got BTFO and replaced by a literal clone in Rebuild
same story as above.
>Moot prefers Asuka
>Hiro prefers Asuka
>Anno prefers Asuka
for any other reason than "Asuka".
Asukafags, you gave up and forfeited any victory when you gave up Asuka in favor of a waifu version of asuka. When you couldn't accept that Asuka was a wreck, and inferior to Rei in stature.
>>135101946
>textwall Reifag is back
This thread needed to die anyhow.
>>135102042
>comatose suicidal bitch
As opposed to Kentucky Fried Allahu Akbar Rei?
>>135101983
None of those constitute "winning".
Rather the victory goes to Rei, who achieved godhood and eternal existence through that godhood, saved Asuka and Shinji.
>>135102042
>what? didn't even read
reifags everyone
>>135101983
>the true love interest
Kaworu?
>>135100188
Now i get it
This is blood from her hymen
NGE sureis deep
>>135100420
This, Rei is so shit that even when she finally managed to cut off the strings Gendo had on her she couldn't help but turn for another person (Shinji) to order her around.
>>135102105
Not comatose
Not a bitch
Only pragmatically suicidal, which is far better than asuka's complete attempt at final self-erasure
Rei bombing Armisael not only saved Asuka, Shinji and the world, but ironically herself.
>>135100473
>>135102133
>this denial
Yes they do m'lad
Rei is a catalyst puppet
>>135102170
Rei cannot deny her true nature of being an Ikari sex doll.
She exists to only follow their orders.
>>135102170
>>135102255
>doing something for someone else is "being ordered around"
>kicking the other persons ass is being "ordered around"
Really reaching hard there Asukafags.
Reminder that Asuka never broke her strings. Reminder that Asuka literally DIED being NERV's lapdog, sent to fight and die for nothing.
Reifags are so delusional. They're all autistic which is why they never shut the fuck up.
HEY REIFAGS, YOUR WAIFU IS AN AUTISTIC SOULESS CLONE THAT GENDO USES AS A FUCKDOLL, NOT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS THE SHITTIEST LOLI EVER AND GOT WRECKED BY A FEMKEK AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>135102248
>Sadamoto: I think, if you take Asuka as being, for Shinji, a symbol of the longed-for opposite sex, Rei is "maternal." For one, it seems like she has the genetic material of Shinji's mother. For myself, if I am asked who between Asuka and Rei I like more, it is probably because somewhere in Rei there is something motherly, and when Shinji looks disheartened she "scolds" him ever so softly. Rei asks Shinji, "Are you running away again?" Quite often she says harsh things that really get down to the point. It would be ideal if a friend of his would say it, but for some reason that doesn't happen. That [action of Rei's] is because a mother will absolutely not abandon her child. I think that, for Shinji, Rei is that sort of motherly existence.
>Sadamoto: I have become popular thanks to Rei, but for me, she is a character I created by drawing on an embarassing, messy part, something like a sadistic desire, within myself. She's a type of character I've never drawn before now, and I had all sorts of worries while creating her. Asuka, in this sense, is a character where the masochistic part of me emerges.
>>135102321
slow down there friend
>>135102253
>becoming the supreme being on earth and probably, the near galaxy is somehow "being a catalyst puppet"
Let's drop the denial, and let's take the facts. Your doll waifu Asuka was nothing more than NERV's puppet all along.
She never improved, and died in their service.
Rei reclaimed her stolen legacy and denied the ultimate patriarchal figure in ALL of Evangelion, Gendo.
Asuka dies in his service, for literally nothing.
Then Rei saves her.
>>135101033
>a mutt
Have you seen the German national football team?
Not one purebreed in sight.
Can we all just take a moment to talk about how much better both of them are in the 1.0 and 2.0?
I honestly never fucking liked any of them.
They where both cunts in each their respective ways
They actually feel like they have some human emotion now
>inb4 some faggot with nostalgia goggles tells me to fuck off
>Anno: Sadists, without question, go to Rei, because of their sadistic desires. I believe that masochists go to Asuka. And, there is a tendency for women of the same generation and people who are children mentally to go to Misato.
>>135102335
You forgot to add:
>Sadamoto: In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
>>135102364
The only doll here is the one who reaches godhood and STILL get rejected
lmaoing @ your doormat
>>135102402
Alphas go for Rei,
Beta go for Asuka.
Asukafaggotry is only for r9k-tier losers who dream about their little "beta-uprising", creating endless fantasy worlds (re-take, rebuild, whatever "re" you want to call it, signifying their wish for a re-match since they lost) to soothe themselves.
>>135102478
>mangafox
>>135102478
Rei can be rejected by a thousand Shinji's, a thousand self-inserts written by Asukafags because their only interest is shipping, and Rei will still be the best girl, or "best girl" if you will.
The fact that you can only rely on fan-fiction or spinoffs with for all intents and purposes different characters for argumentation otherwise is what defeats you.
>>135102613
Rei got rekt in the original series, too.
Shinji abandoned her when he found out she was a clone and screamed when he saw her in EoE
>>135102504
>Alphas goes to the accepting oblivious doormat fantasy
>Betas go for the competitive fiery redhead
Anta baka
>>135102558
>moving the goalposts this hard
>>135102683
Yet, lo and behold, Rei did not abandon Shinji.
Nor did Rei cease being Rei, and nor did Rei come to a dead stop.
Unlike Asuka, who self-destructed, abandoned everyone several episodes prior, and was then abandoned also by Shinji, except as fap fodder.
Rei is the best girl.
>>135102470
What about when they kissed?
>>135102238
It actually killed herself, just like she died for nothing on Zeruel.
>>135102697
A doormat fantasy that wrecks you?
...or the bitch doormat asuka who is literally just a sex object by the end of the series, being jerked off to by the "disgusting" otaku symbol that is Shinji?
>>135102613
But you lost every single battle mang.
The spin-off is the official Gainax story of what-if, you lose again Reiman
>>135102823
>...
I think we're done here.
>>135102810
Rei didn't die against Zeruel.
>>135102751
>Rei did not abandon Shinji
No, she just made him shit his pants in fear like the monster she is.
>Nor did Rei cease being Rei
Yeah, okay.
>>135102842
There only ever was one battle, the battle of characters, of their stories.
Rei won that. A thousand years later, damage control by Gainax that puts one in a better light than the other won't change the outcome of the war.
The fact that you can only rely on fan-fiction or spinoffs with for all intents and purposes different characters for argumentation otherwise is what defeats you.
>>135096549
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
REI REI REI REI REI
>REI REI REI REI REI
>>135102757
What about it? Asuka forced it on Shinji because she was feeling lonely, and then went back to sucking Kaji's dick in the next episode.
It's like it never happened.
Nonetheless, Shinji only sees one character in a romantic light, and this is consistent in the Anime, Manga, and Rebuild.
>>135102863
Rei II did. Question, reifag, which Rei is it that you like? Rei I? Rei II? Rei III? Rei Q? Any of the back-up Reis? There's so many. Not even human.
>>135102879
>No, she just made him shit his pants in fear like the monster she is.
Something a pathetic weakling like Asuka would never be able to, despite trying her hardest. Then Rei soothes Shinji, stabilizes him and gives the world, through the soothed Shinji's actions, a new chance.
>Yeah, okay.
Rei is more than just a little girl anon.
>>135096549
Let's put it to a vote
http://strawpoll.me/6340528
>>135102961
You mean Armisael. Not Zeruel.
You didn't even get that Rei I, II and III are the same character I bet. No wonder you like Asuka more, everything you know about Evangelion is one giant misunderstanding.
>>135102823
She can only wreck herself kek
Asuka put up a valiant defense while everyone was dead or crying.
>>135102961
Rei II died against Armisael, you dumb Asukafag.
Prior to that, she died by strangulation.
Yet Rei lives to be there when Asuka dies, yet lives to be there to revive Asuka.
Congratulations on not getting Evangelion or even having a coherent memory of it.
>>135103078
>Rei dies more than Asuka in the series
>Without Lillith, rei would be nothing
Like pottery.
>>135102908
I really am not anon, Asuka won anime and every other iteration, the spinoff is just salt on the wound. Rei faded into the wind like the good cuck she is.
>>135102983
>Then Rei soothes Shinji
By making him scream and be scared for his life?
How could you call that a good thing that she's freaking out the poor kid?
Rei is a fucking monster that died like the disgusting beast she is.
>>135103048
>valiant defense
You mean, like when she threw a tantrum and got raped by the MP-EVA's?
You mean, a "valiant defense" that is more thanks to Misato or EVA02 than Asuka? Christ, nothing Asuka did ever mattered. She was shit from start to end.
In the meantime, look at your pic. Rei, loses a limb, doens't flinch, regrows one, denies Gendo the hardest he's ever been denied in his life by another person, takes control of instrumentality, ruins SEELE's and Gendo's plans, makes it possible for humanity to return to human form while also doling out extreme mental therapy for the entire human race.
In the meantime asuka shrieked for her mommy and then died.
They don't even compare. Rei is a literal goddess in human form, asuka is nothing but a far, far ancestor of some of rei's sperm.
>>135103133
Rei is Lilith. There is no with or without, it's either is or isn't.
>all these salty reifags grasping at straws
The different Reis are different characters. They don't even realize it.
As is evident in 3.0.
Stay mad, Reiniggers.
Even Mari is better than shitty Reis.
>>135103142
What did Asuka win exactly? A consolation prize in the years after she lost to Rei and Shinji as characters?
A otaku escapist fantasy in the anime that criticizes such escapism?
Morally as far as Evangelion goes, objectively as far as Evangelion and the real world goes, Asuka lost.
>>135103208
Clearly there is for most of the series while Rei struggles with issue of identity. Way to miss a major point for your character, Reifag.
>>135103143
>omitting chunks of the story
This is why you lose, asucucks. Rei could have just scared Shinji for all I care, it's what she did versus what asuka didn't that matters.
Rei took responsibility, took charge, and succeeded in both her actions as well as in finding herself.
Asuka couldn't even reach up to Rei's ankles in that regard.
>>135103319
Way to not make a point at all.
Rei's identity was taken from her, and Rei found it in the end. That identity was Lilith.
>>135096549
>asuka
beta cvcks
>rei
alpha males with high test
>>135103337
>Reifags think scaring Shinji was a good thing
Jesus christ, you really are cancerous autistic fucks.
Just as cold, emotionless and monsterous as your non-human waifu.
>>135102945
>>135096549
>the only person that Shinji care in the entire series was Kaworu
>Same about the rebuilt , 3 was basically a Kaworu wank fest.
In 4 he is going to join Kaworu in the afterlife , and the end game is Asuka/Mari.
can't refute the facts
>>135103393
And could verily be considered without her identity, i.e Lillith.
>>135103319
Most of the characters struggle with identity issues, it's a staple of Evangelion.
However, Rei competently manages to make progress with her own over the course of the series, while Asuka only regresses.
Point to Rei.
Rei is waifu
Misato is fuck buddy
Asuka is girl you hang out with sometimes.
>>135103461
In the same way you can be considered without yours.
Much in the same way you can consider a formula without knowing numericals.
>>135103413
>hurr durr I'm retarded
Are you going to be mad at a surgeon for cutting a person as well?
Fucking retard, only a kaworufag is as dumb as you
>>135103264
She won:
1. Shinji's affection
2. Rising up to the occasion after being mindraped
3. At not being the amalgamation of creator's desires of fucking his mother
4. At being alive and breathing in the end
5. Having clearly defined character and not being a blank slate
If anything Rei is a hikikomori submission fantasy, do you not see the irony of your claims my fine man
>>135101001
>World Cups won by Germans: 1
>1
But that's wrong
>>135103461
How does that make sense? It's the absence of said identity and the quest to discover one self, that in the end leads to the answer.
>>135102504
>>135103411
nice samefag, doesn't make you any less wrong
>>135103481
>Only forward development is interesting
Without Lillith Rei wouldn't have developed at all.
>>135103614
It proves my point that Rei was without awareness of her identity as far as regards Lillith and by extension, was without Lillith.
I shouldn't have went into abstractions, I forgot all Reifags are autistic and only capable of dealing in literals.
>>135103432
This is the future of Evangelion.
Asuka is the badass hero.
Mari is her lesbian sidekick.
Rei is the big bad villain.
Misato and Gendo are literally whos.
Kaworu and Shinji exist to be background homos.
>>135102164
do you get it?
it's literally her blood on his hands
if he does not pilot the Eva he will LITERALLY have her blood on his hands
it's metaphorical too!
bravo.
>>135103584
>1. Shinji's affection
So did a lot of other people, and Shinji was last time seen choking Asuka.
Not impressed, and this alone isn't a victory either.
>2. Rising up to the occasion after being mindraped
Asuka never did this. She was carried to the occasion and after the mindrape, failed to rise to not just one, but two occasions, Armisael and Kaworu.
She failed.
>3. At not being the amalgamation of creator's desires of fucking his mother
How do you know she isn't?
>4. At being alive and breathing in the end
Thanks to Rei, and Rei is beyond being alive in the end, being godlike.
>5. Having clearly defined character and not being a blank slate
Asuka doesn't even have a proper character conclusions, Rei is a far more complete character than Asuka ever was.
>If anything Rei is a hikikomori submission fantasy,
I'd call that Asuka, who is the one lying down in the end being raped, whilst Rei defeats and scares the shit out of everyone by the end.
Asuka submitted, and as a reward, was used as a mastrubation tool for otaku and Shinji, while Rei prevailed and was rewarded by ascension to godhood.
do you not see the irony of your claims my fine man?
>>135103584
>Shinji's affection
Nope. Try again.
>>135103584
>1. Shinji's affection
that's why he didn't rescue her in EoE
he did't care about the kiss and Asuka was pissed because "he didn't hug her".
In the entire series Shinji never saw Asuka as more than a fap fodder
>>135103639
Without Lilith no one else would have developed because they literally wouldn't exist.
>>135103564
Rei's face looks like a surgeon's accident.
>Asukafags = beta faggots
>Reifags = beta faggots
>Misatofags = patricians who prefer a real woman
>>135103757
Without Lillith the show would have arguably been better.
>>135103788
see >>135102402
The only true best girl is Yui.
>>135103672
>It proves my point that Rei was without awareness of her identity as far as regards Lillith and by extension, was without Lillith.
No, your point is unproven due to the facts i pointed out in my post:
>It's the absence of said identity and the quest to discover one self, that in the end leads to the answer.
The absence of "Lilith" is in itself, the void that creates the character, the character cannot exist without Lilith and vice versa. I'm sorry that this simple concept wreaks havoc your even simpler brain.
Moreover, you must understand that the story in Evangelion develops linearly.
In other words, what a character becomes in the end is a product of it's development till then, also a point evangelion makes about personal development you might have missed since you're an asuka fan and therefore not intelligent enough to pick up on that.
So Asuka "in the end" also does not exist for Asuka in the beginning.
Your point is retarded m8.
>>135103863
>implying anyone is going to read your textwalls autistic Reifag
Is being frank something you're not able to do?
>>135103837
Like I said, without Lilith, there would be no characters and therefore no show.
You can stop being dumb now.
>>135103863
>m8
Yeah, I'm really not going to read this now. Did I just walk into fucking facebook? Christ.
>>135103863
Rei needs to have to rely on a literal deus ex machina (Lilith) to make her an actual 'complete' character.
That's pathetic.
>>135103889
>>135103915
Is being un-butthurt about how shit Asuka is compared to Rei something you're not able to do?
All leads point to yes.
>>135103907
Without Lilith, the show could just be about cute angels doing cute things.
>>135103863
I wouldn't bother mate, you do know that Asukafags are illiterate, right?
>>135103946
Way to concede.
>responding to the spastic textwalling Reifag
You faggots did this to yourselves, now he's going to samefag and spam the entire thread into shit.
>>135103907
But without Rei, the show would improve drastically. Anno even says her arc is done by Ep 6. She's trash.
>>135103936
Not true, for several reasons.
For one that's not a "deus ex machina", much less literal one. It's abundandlt foreshadowed, named and pictured before it happens, and is an ongoing part of the characters development until it is finally revealed.
Second, Rei's arc also moves towards individual completion in NGE, while EoE serves as it's extension.
Something that cannot be said for Asuka who meets no conclusion, or any other character besides Shinji really.
If we consider EoE or NGE, Rei has the advantage of having Lilith as a part of the character, rather as an external element as with for instance, Asuka.
Asuka cannot develop in the end because she is a failed, static character. This is why Asuka is only a plot device in the end, never developing but only being puppeteered by other elements or characters, such as Misato, Kyoko or Rei, who moves Asuka into place and develops her off-screen.
>>135103989
Not quite illiterate, just stupid unfortunately.
>>135104055
It would certainly be a lot less pretentious and cliche.
That Rei monologue from the recap episode was some of the most edgy shit I've ever seen in Anime.
Really the only true low point of the show was everytime Rei opened her mouth with that retarded existentialism 101 false-deep bullshit.
>>135104055
Without rei, there is no show regardless of what you or anyone else says.
Rei is for better in NGE, and for worse in spinoff, forced to be an integral part of the story even if the writers actually seek to write the character out.
>>135103733
Then why wasn't he at that primeval shore as his Steve? Merelty platonic, farn
>>135103719
>So did a lot of other people
but they didn't definitively like Asuka
>She failed.
A recklessly heroic act is still heroic, even in failure against overwhelming odds. Unlike the blatant godmode Dolly was gifted; it's not even courageous as courage requires fear and Rei is autistically fearless
>How do you know she isn't?
Because she's not the clone of the mother of the self-insert creator, obviously
>Thanks to Rei
You mean thanks to Shinji. Not like Rei had any say in the matter, it was her obligation for the deal with Lilith. An empty vessel again, heh
>No proper conclusion
She reconciles with Shinji ending on a hopeful note. Rei had no arc to begin with
>NOO ASUKA IS
Rei would've died without a word in her place, judging by her characterization. Godhood =/= lying dead in an ocean of blood.
You're just grasping at this point, accept the cold hard facts buddy
>>135104105
>>135104055
I'm sure the introspection dialogues in NGE made Asukafags uncomfortable and made them seek back to the comfort of fun, light-hearted MOTW action fanservice shows.
You might waltz back to your K-ON!'s now.
>>135103739
Didn't rescue her cause he got entangled in the initiation of Third Impact.
He never broke down like that for a different cause either, further sealing it
>Reifags insist Rei isn't a Deus Ex Machina but decry Asuka's fight in EoE as a shonenesque powerup
>They insist Asuka is a plot device while never daring to claim Rei is
>>135104105
I agree. The navel-gazing attempts at spewing elementary philosophy were really grating.
>>135104155
I'm sorry I'm not sorry I'm not an easily impressed teenager who thinks Existentialism 101 is the height of what philosophy has to offer and who indulges in shittily constructed poetry that relies on metaphor and even then it's stiff as fuck. Aquire taste you plebian fuck.
>>135104083
>also moves towards individual completion in NGE
How so? Her last line in the series is obeying Gendo's commands to go to the instrumentality project. Like a doll.
>or any other character besides Shinji really
>Touji didn't have a conclusion
>Kaji didn't have a conclusion
>Kaworu didn't have a conclusion
Yeah, no. Fuck off.
And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE, way more than Rei's.
>>135104132
Because he's forever in his heart senpai, representation of love itself.
But Shinji will be revealed to be the Eve to Kaworu's Adam in Rebuild, anyway.
>Merelty platonic
Nigga, Anno already said it's homoerotic and gay as fuck. Get over yourself or see >>135102945
>>135104132
>but they didn't definitively like Asuka
Shinji doesn't really care about Asuka and Asuka's projection in his mind calls him out on it.
No real love in choking anon.
>A recklessly heroic act is still heroic, even in failure against overwhelming odds.
There is nothing heroic in what Asuka's doing, she's carried to battle and put in a death-machine that is the real hero in the scene. Kyoko is the unsung hero here, not Asuka. Asuka just went with the motions and died.
>Unlike the blatant godmode Dolly was gifted;
Rei took said god mode, Asuka laid still and was gifted a tour in a berserk EVA until she died. Rei stood there, denied the ultimate boss in NGE, Gendo, and took her legacy and did what she pleased with it.
Asuka was carried, dolled, hyped and then killed like the puppet she was. Rei rose to godhood, taking it for herself.
>Because she's not the clone of the mother of the self-insert creator, obviously
Doesn't mean anything, obviously, since the author's incestuous fantasy is probably some tsundere bitch like asuka because his mother beat him for being an otaku.
>She reconciles with Shinji ending on a hopeful note. Rei had no arc to begin with
She doesn't reconcile with Shinji, nor does is her character actually involved save for being present in a scene. No development, no conclusion.
Rei had her arc up till and including EoE.
>Rei would've died without a word in her place, judging by her characterization.
Fanwanking are we? Nice. The reality is that Asuka died like a bitch, and Rei saved her. Soak it up.
>Godhood =/= lying dead in an ocean of blood.
Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
>>135104337
>Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
The shit that comes from a deranged Reifag's mouth.
>>135104223
>How so?
For one Rei has far more dialogue after said dialogue, but if we want to cut off there for the sake of seeing how weak your argument is:
Rei has her individual completion before that moment and therefore BEFORE instrumentality starts, therefore Rei's moment there is something she did in the real world, something spurred on by her own thoughts and development.
Not only that, Rei asserts something about herself and her existence, showing understanding that characters like Asuka never even get close to. Rei asserts herself by the end, Asuka just whines.
>Yeah, no. Fuck off.
No, you fuck off faggot, if you can't deal with the truth. These characters conclude because the end, because they cease being present.
Characters like Rei and Shinji not only just conclude, but have a conclusion with their character to come with. A final development, an understanding, you name it.
>And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE, way more than Rei's.
Verily, they were not. They were thoughts dancing in the instrumentality Rei created, and only Shinji's case is considered.
You might kick, cry, lie and bitch now 20 years later, but by the end of Evangelion Rei was a fine, outstanding character without a real peer anywhere else. Asuka didn't.
You can refer to your spinoffs where you get a consolation shipping prize, an otaku fantasy to cover up for the characters failure in the original, but it will only undermine your efforts to be taken seriously.
>>135104404
There's literally a scene at the end of NGE, and even in episode 1 where Rei appears pretty much like the star wars jedi's though.
Leave it to an Asukafag to not know the original, being drunk on the pandering the spinoffs gave him.
>>135100694
Who?
>>135104549
Holy shit so you're so oblivious.
>>135104223
The series never explains what happens besides instrumentality starting.
In both EoE and NGE, it starts, but the only time you see it start is when Rei wrecks Gendo.
Of course, in NGE Asuka is a non-character by then.
>>135104021
Just as foretold.
>>135104610
A shame because according to her very own creator, Rei was a non-character as early as Ep6.
>>135104223
>And Asuka's character was concluded just as much as Misato's in NGE,
This is true.
But this:
>way more than Rei's.
is clearly not true. Of the 'cases' considered in the final episodes, only Rei's case has a conclusion that is the product of her development, rather than a plot device. Then the nature of their conclusions for Rei shows progress and change of character, whilst Misato's and Asuka's only limit themselves to a character-recap.
I like Rei.
>>135104662
It only shows you how damaging otaku fanboyism is, for Anno to be butthurt still.
>>135104314
We'll see about that lad. I think you're wrong but it's to be decided yet.
>>135104337
>his selfish reasons
Choking because the representation of his view of Asuka rejected him in his own subconscious. He literally broke down crying after he realized the truth.
>there's nothing heroic
There's everything heroic about it, again, reckless but a noble sacrifice nonetheless. The intention is irrelevant to the act.
>Rei took said godmode.
She took it because it was her 2nd of two reasons to exist. Denied the boss, again, after remembering best girl Asuka's influential words. Rei didn't rise to anything, she was gifted
>since the author's incestuous fantasy is probably some tsundere bitch like asuka
No it pretty much means the opposite, given the fact his father obviously hated him and his mother was only respite
>Fanwanking
No fanwanking, going by characterization alone she would've died. Asuka died like a fighting spirit, stop denying the facts.
>Godhood like Rei's is being eternally present, beyond the moral coil. When Asuka is naught but a rotting corpse on a beach, Rei will still persist, like Obi-Wan at the end of Star Wars.
lmao
>>135104221
>Reifags insist Rei isn't a Deus Ex Machina but decry Asuka's fight in EoE as a shonenesque powerup
It's true though. Asuka is gifted said powerup just by virtue of existing, being lifted into EVA02 and waiting.
Rei goes through an entire series of self-discovery, and pro-actively chooses to unite with Lilith's body.
>They insist Asuka is a plot device while never daring to claim Rei is
Asuka is in EoE. She just exists to be pushed around, and doesn't develop or have any real impact save for those that serve as cheap plot movers, i.e dying so Shinji can scream.
>>135102376
fuck off
Post Rei
What a goddess.
>>135104783
>Choking because the representation of his view of Asuka rejected him in his own subconscious. He literally broke down crying after he realized the truth.
Which is fanwank, and not only that, still isn't conductive to affection.
You could just point out that he cried over Misato or was happy to see Kaworu and you're wrong anyway. Sorry!
>There's everything heroic about it, again, reckless but a noble sacrifice nonetheless. The intention is irrelevant to the act.
There is nothing heroic about it, first and foremost it's not her own act as much as the acts of others converging upon her. Misato, Rei, Shinji, they all brought Asuka there.
Reminder that Asuka could not move and was unconscious, and would have died in that late if not for Kyoko. There was nothing heroic about an action that was more others than hers.
>She took it because it was her 2nd of two reasons to exist. Denied the boss, again, after remembering best girl Asuka's influential words. Rei didn't rise to anything, she was gifted
Where in your sentence do you describe being "gifted" something? Nowhere, that's where. Rei took it by her own actions, her own hands, and that's why she wins and Asuka loses.
Rei thought about this, meditated, and finally acted.
>No it pretty much means the opposite, given the fact his father obviously hated him and his mother was only respite
Where is this fact described? Nowhere? Hm, who cares then. I dont care about your behind-the-scenes fanwank, which even if true, would not stop Rei from being best girl.
>No fanwanking, going by characterization alone she would've died. Asuka died like a fighting spirit, stop denying the facts.
It's fanwanking, because as you said, by characterization alone she would've died. Her characterization was that of a failure, and likewise her development. Hence the powerup she gets is the only reason, not her characterization.
>lmao
ayy
Truly the best of girls.
>>135104783
If Asuka had sat in her room, decided to get up of her own will, and not just lied there being jerked off to, you'd have a point.
Instead Misato ordered her unconscious body moved into EVA02, and then asuka just lay there. Doing nothing but feel sorry for herself.
Until EVA02 awakens and gives Asuka a cheap "powerup" that ends just as quick as it started.
Shinji had gone through much worse, and he was still walking around, even if soundly defeated.
Rei had gone down to the underworld and returned not only once, but twice, and she was still walking around.
Shinji climbed into the EVAeventually, and Rei climbed into Lilith of her own will.
Both of them rank higher than Asuka who just literally did nothing but suck the entire fucking time, lying still doing nothing. At least the other two were walking, talking, doing. That's will and effort, not Asuka "I'll lie down until my mother comes back from the dead for me because IM SPESHUL".
Man Asuka is so fucking shit. She only died so she could scare Shinji you know, to fuck him up even more. Even her whole fight was a plot device.
>>135100473
does choking a bitch count for asuka
>>135104837
>Asuka is gifted said powerup just by virtue of existing
And Rei isn't? Way to completely pitch under the rug Kyoko's involvement.
>Rei goes through an entire series of self-discovery
Actually she gets dropped like hot garbo after ep6.
>She just exists to be pushed around, and doesn't develop or have any real impact save for those that serve as cheap plot movers, i.e dying so Shinji can scream.
Weak bait. Looks like someone doesn't understand her character at all. Sasuga.
>>135105043
>Which is fanwank, and not only that, still isn't conductive to affection.
I didn't see them have an extended dream sequence since they were quite definitively less important to him. Misato was too much like a mother, Kaworu was a guardian angel and Rei was the weird emotionless clone he was afraid of and reminded him of a mother every step of the way.
>There isn't anything heroic: 3rd ignition
For the last time yes there is. If you're gonna circle around the leading up the act itself you're missing the point once again: the intent is meaningless to the deed; which is almost preventing oblivion which she could have possibly done if she had assistance from agenda dolly over there.
>Where in your sentence do you describe being "gifted" something? Nowhere, that's where. Rei took it by her own actions, her own hands, and that's why she wins and Asuka loses.
Rei thought about this, meditated, and finally acted.
As in made for this very purpose and literally hand-holded to Lilith
>Where is this fact described? Nowhere? Hm, who cares then
It's not even behind the scenes, it's the integral part of that plot thread. Hell it's even blatantly obvious his mother is his armor, literally. I'm so very sorry.
>It's fanwanking, because as you said, by characterization alone she would've died. Her characterization was that of a failure, and likewise her development.
Nope, she obviously prevailed. Rei, on the other hand, would've died since that's her attitude, the failed clone which failed its own purpose
>ayy
memes don't redeem speculative insanity dude
>>135105675
>And Rei isn't?
Nope.
>Actually she gets dropped like hot garbo after ep6.
Nope.
>Weak bait. Looks like someone doesn't understand her character at all. Sasuga.
>no argument
Butthurt Asukfag.
>>135105766
>this completely dismantled Reifag
>>135105253
Both of them condemned the world to ruin, one unknowingly with the worst girl knowing all the way, something terribly evil to begin with.
Rei is nothing but a catalyst for genocide. Asuka is the unsung hero of humanity.
>>135105688
>I didn't see them have an extended dream sequence
Most of them did in fact with the real persons in question.
Then they had real moments in the real world, such as Misato's and Kaworu's.
>For the last time yes there is
No, there isn't, and I argued why there isn't in my last post. You addressed none of it and just denied the facts, and that means you're wrong.
I'm sorry but if you're just gong to insist without argumentation, you lose.
>It's not even behind the scenes,
Again, where is this fact described? I'm sorry Anon, but Anno didn't even come up with the idea of the mother existing inside the EVA. That was Sadamoto.
You don't know shit anon, explains why you don't accept Rei as the best.
>As in made for this very purpose and literally hand-holded to Lilith
No hand-holding, and going to Lilith took Rei meditation and even to deny Gendo.
>Nope, she obviously prevailed. Rei, on the other hand, would've died since that's her attitude, the failed clone which failed its own purpose
More fanwank? You already shut down your own argument in your last post by admitting that by her characterization alone she would have died, and let me quote you:
>going by characterization alone she would've died.
You're done.
>memes don't redeem speculative insanity dude
he he, memeposting 'lmao' only gives you an ayy in return, loser.
>>135100398
>>135100539
Best taste.
>>135100398
I agree
>>135105853
Asuka condemned the world to ruin in NGE when she was unable to help Rei or Shinji in their later battles.
She is unsung for a reason, she's not a hero, just a scared child and nothing more.
Neither Rei or Shinji condemned the world to ruin. Without Shinji, there would have been an impact initiated by SEELE. Without Rei, there would have been an impact initiated by SEELE.
Take notice of how the impact has already begun before Rei enters Lilith. Reclaiming Lilith only allows mankind a choice, and that was delivered as promised.
Rather than the eternal, stagnant world wished by the other parties, it was now possible for both to exist and the world be reborn.
Every soul SEELE and Gendo had damned to oblivion by initiating the First Impact, which count at least 3 billion making up half of the worlds population, are now redeemed and eligble for return thanks to their actions.
All things considered, it was a good outcome.
If you want more, why not ask for a blowjob from Anno to come with every movie ticket complete with a happy hand-holding ending that segues off into "All Star" by Smash Mouth?
Clapping and guitar in the original should do for you plebs.
>>135105688
Rei has the longest instrumentality scene that also features Rei, not a projection of Rei. In addition, Kaworu is also there.
With Asuka, she doesn't seem to be quite tang yet, so it's more a pseudo-projection if anything, and even then, the affection is correctly called out as false.
Misato didn't get one unfortunately, but she gets badass scenes where she saves Shinji early in the movie, and also Shinji cries over her death. It's dumb to say Shinji had no affections for Misato.
Asukafags like yourself should just die. All you care about is shipping bullshit and it's people like you that make for a toxic eva fanbase. The original Evangelion is a lot more than your personal jerk-off fantasy, the real evangelion actually calls out shitty Asukafags for being fucked up individuals who jacks off to bitchy cartoon redheads who can't hurt them. Asuka thinks you're disgusting.
ASUKAFAGS: KIMOCHI WARUI
>>135105921
>missing the point
Not nearly as long or important to the narrative as the extended best girl sequences. The former only enhances the latter.
>You addressed none of it and just denied the facts, and that means you're wrong.
Yeah I did, twice, l2read
>Again, where is this fact described? I'm sorry Anon, but Anno didn't even come up with the idea of the mother existing inside the EVA. That was Sadamoto.
Which in turn fits that particular narrative, which isn't reliant on the mother being EVA at a base level. It enhances it, sure, but isn't mandatory. Point being, it's very clearly reflected on Shinji if not directly stated just like his love for Asuka between the lines and Rei being the worst fucking girl ever.
>No hand-holding, and going to Lilith took Rei meditation and even to deny Gendo.
Sparked by the best girl. The only shred of that rebellious personality is Asuka, thank the heavens for her. Rei owes her everything it seems.
>More fanwank? You already shut down your own argument in your last post by admitting that by her characterization alone she would have died, and let me quote you:
You seem to misunderstand what you read, so I'll make it blatantly clear:
Rei would've died like the punchbag she is
Asuka's bestness hit a chord with Shinji obviously and she prevailed. You misunderstand her characterization in the worst girl ways.
>posting 'lmao' only gives you an ayy in return, loser.
Not when reading retardation which you've were called out on elsewhere, fuccboi
>>135106501
>Not nearly as long
Longer in fact, and far more important to theme and narration, so much in fact that it addresses it directly.
You lose anyway because you claimed they didn't have any. Sorry Asukafag, but you've got to admit you're wrong.
>Yeah I did, twice, l2read
Sorry, loss for you, no rebuttal.
>Which in turn fits that particular narrative,
Halt, your argument got proven wrong and you need to accept that first. That he came up with it because of the reasons you said, was wrong. You don't get to backtrack.
>Sparked by the best girl. The only shred of that rebellious personality is Asuka, thank the heavens for her. Rei owes her everything it seems.
Except Rei has been pondering, thinking and meditating this long since that moment, Rei already knew the answer before that.
Sorry anon, but your reaching fails you even here.
>Rei would've died like the punchbag she is
More fanwank. Reminder that Asuka died like the personification of a onahole she is, an outlet for Shinji's masturbatory fantasy, and later she was used by the MP-EVA's, representing the disgusting otaku such as yourselves. It is referred to as a "rape" by the staff.
You can't fanwank to avoid the truth, Asuka died there. Rei was down in the basement getting Lilith and kicking Gendo's ass. Sweet, canonical truth.
Getting raped by a bunch of people like Asuka did != prevailing.
Getting saved by Rei != prevailing.
>Not when reading retardation which you've were called out on elsewhere, fuccboi
You just mad you getting styled on Asuakfag.
The canon shits on you. Every time.
I prefer Kaworu so I don't have to take part in the Asuka/Rei shit-flinging wars.
>>135106501
>fanwank
>fanwank
>fanwank
>refusal to address what actually happened in NGE/EoE in favor of his own WHAT IF fanwank
Asukafag delusion, one hell of a drug.
holy shit why is it that every eva thread devolves into paragraphs about why the rebuilds are trash or which waifu is best
is there really nothing more interesting to talk about?
>>135106771
Congratulations on picking the option that makes you worse than both of them combined.
>>135106860
This is what Evangelion is now. It is what Anno wanted it to be. There is no room for anything else.
>>135106227
A scene which isn't hers in the first place and would've happened with any other character? How cucked can you get?
The projection of Asuka is Shinji's viewpoint of her, once more. You really suck at this don't you?
Reading comprehension my man, he did garner affection for Misato as with others but not in the same way or intensity as best girl.
rest is spiteful irrational butthurt in face of clear evidence :^)
>>135106079
The world wasn't condemned by her doing but by worst girl's transformation. You can't blame a true hero for trying the cancel the apocalypse.
They could've prevented it, instead they caved in to their worse side. Can't blame Shinji though, witnessing best girl die heroically must be the saddest thing in the world.
It's not their choice to make or break the extinction of the human race for whatever reason especially highschool edginess, the whole point behind Rebuild 3.0 is this.
Not talking about the ending or the point of it senpai, were talking who best girl which is Anno approved Asuka. You're way out of your depth.
>>135106956
>A scene which isn't hers in the first place and would've happened with any other character? How cucked can you get?
So it could have happened with any other character, huh?
Too bad it didn't, cuckerino.
>the rest
Enjoy being a faggot cancerous shipper retard. Bye!
>>135106803
You mean facts stemming from analysis and examination of scenes and their intent? Unlike your "le godhood ascending blank slate Obi-Wan ghost doll" fanwank for the last 10 replies?
Never change, Reifag. Asuka is literally 2deep4u so you have to compromise with trash like worst girl
>>135107121
No I mean butthurt asukfag fanwank that rejects the canon, like all of your posts.
>>135107071
Which tells volumes on how "important" Rei was in anything, you could've replaced her with a literal Jane Doe and have the same effect, top kek.
>being an assblasted quitter
Asuka proved as best girl
>>135106771
>I prefer Kaworu
Go to bed, Shinji
>>135106956
>The world wasn't condemned by her doing but by worst girl's transformation.
Asuka condemned the world once she gave up on life in NGE and would rather see the world destroyed than actually having to give up piloting.
Asuka already lost in the series, Asukafagget. Rei and Shinji prevailed.
>You can't blame a true hero for trying the cancel the apocalypse.
Rei is the one that actually canceled the apocalypse through interfering with it.
Reminder that Asuka doesn't even know about any apocalypse. That's right, Asuka died without even knowing about Third Impact, the Human Instrumentality Project, or that it even was a thing that could happen.
>It's not their choice to make or break the extinction of the human race for whatever reason especially highschool edginess, the whole point behind Rebuild 3.0 is this.
Now you're being illogical. Allegedly Asuka can 'save the world' (but didn't), but she can't stop it anyhow?
You're delusional. Rebuild 3.0 is not the original, and is for the record, full of shit. Unless you're admitting to be full of shit that is. We refer to the original Evangelion, the only complete story thus far in the saga, and in that story, Asuka fails.
>Not talking about the ending or the point of it senpai, were talking who best girl which is Anno approved Asuka. You're way out of your depth.
Ah, the simple-minded Asukafag. Asuka is best because Anno likes her the most. You would make a fine cultist.
asuka > rei
>>135107152
Nah you're pretty much blind to the truth m8. Rei is a faceless doormat and my replies proved it while elevating best girl to new heights.
>>135107303
Keep lying to yourself, then.
>>135107263
No buddy, Rei died and Asuka came back is now omnipresently observing her eternal cucking. At her own behest, even.
Sad to be honest.
>Rei is the one that actually canceled the apocalypse through interfering with it.
No she pretty much realized it one way rather the other. Kiss your life goodbye if Rei's around anyway.
Which makes Asuka's noble fight even more legendary.
>Now you're being illogical. Allegedly Asuka can 'save the world' (but didn't), but she can't stop it anyhow?
She was on the verge of stopping it until the Spear of Longinus. If Shinji and Rei joined the fight the tide could have turned, as the fight quite clearly indicates. To bad she was busy being a puppet.
Eva 3.0 is shit but illustrates a point that humanity doesn't necessarily agree with their annihilation by the promise of being better in some next life and some gnostic goal; Asuka once again on the side of rational good guys
>Ah, the simple-minded Asukafag. Asuka is best because Anno likes her the most. You would make a fine cultist.
comprehension is not your strong suit
>>135106956
You didn't watch EoE, or you'd known that impact has already started before Rei returns to Lilith.
If Rei hadn't done that, then we'd start the impact and everyone would be tang, without any chance to come back. Rei intervening at that point and enabling a choice in the matter is what actually saves mankind and for now, guarantees it's further existence.
Then look at the original series first. When Asuka throws a tantrum at Arael, she condemns humanity by refusing to stand up for it.
Rei saves her this time.
Then the next time, Asuka again shits on humanity for not even being able to help the others two since she's too absorbed in her own self-pity. Rei takes one for the team this time. Of course Asuka again abandons humanity in the original when she gives up and life and tries to kill herself.
In the meantime Shinji and Rei are still living, even fighting. When Asuka fights in EoE, it's only because of the others and EVA02, not herself since she just laid still.
So Shinji's choice and Rei's transformation is what makes it possible to reverse instrumentality. In fact Asuka only makes it WORSE by fighting since she loses so hard it shocks Shinji and destabilizes him. It would literally be better and safer for mankind if Misato didn't throw Asuka inside EVA02.
I personally don't blame the children for what is the work of less than well-intentioned adults. But Asukafags and their shallow mindset and fandom piss me off. It goes months inbetween the times I see a decent Asukafag. Months!
If we were to condemn Asuka as hard as Asukafags condemn Shinji, Rei or Misato, then it will soon become clear that Asuka is the most disgusting substance in the entire EVA universe.
>>135107674
>pure fanwank
>relying on 3.0 to back up points about NGE
Just admitted you lost there man.
>>135107352
But you're the one doing it. I proved you wrong and dispelled your wrongful delusions. Your goddess is a false one, and for that I'm very sorry.
>>135107674
>asuka is now omnipresent despite being a regular dumb girl
>asuka knew all about instrumentality all along despite never ever thinking about or uttering a sentence about it
>asuka was close to stopping instrumentality despite being rekt by the MP-EVA's
I take it this is your weird way of admitting you lost? Good show though Asukafag, good job showing everyone insane enough to read this shit thread how out of touch Asukfags are and how much they hate the real asuka for not being their own masturbatory fantasy.
At least you get a "re-do" in the spinoffs with shikinami, right?
>Normalfag
Misato
>Fedora
Rei
>Patrician
Asuka
>>135107720
>le fanwank
reifags, they're naturally dumb
>>135096923
>rebuilds
Times Shinji loved
Asuka:0
Rei:0
Kaworu:1
>>135103701
Except I don't think the idiom 'to have (someone's) blood on one's hands' works in Japanese, which is what the creators would have spoken.
>>135107679
>Asuka is the most disgusting substance in the entire EVA universe.
I thought you said that was Kaworu.
Or are you just in an Asuka-hating mood tonight and completely forgot about your nonsensical rage towards my husbando?
>>135104889
>filename
>>135096549
Who won the Shinji Bowl
>People with common sence
Kaworu
>People that enjoy straws
Asuka , Rei , Misato
Asukafags confirmed for delusional.
>>135108011
reifags confirmed for butthurt cancer
>>135107989
>what is hyperbole
>>135108050
Nigga, you're an Asuka-basher one day and then a Kaworu-basher the next.
Even a Misato and Shinji-basher on occasion.
You'll try to viciously insult any character who isn't Rei to make her look 'better'.
It's just pathetic.
>>135107989
I didn't mention Kaworu in that entire post, are you trying to start something or what?
For the record, since you missed what was clearly deliberate exaggeration, it means that I believe Asukafags by far exaggerate their criticisms of other characters, mainly Rei, Shinji and Misato. This extends to even lying about the characters and making up non-canonical evidence, and inserting off-screen events that aren't citable to prove their point.
My point is thus that if we treat Asuka in the same way, she'll come out far, far worse than those three. In my post I limited myself to adopting an uncompromising stance towards these characters, and I could have gone much farther by adding in lies as well.
As for Kaworu, he's far from a saint. Not a good person by any means.
>>135107679
Third Impact started by Shinji being appauled and dismayed at witnessing the most horrible of events, best girl's death. But that doesn't excuse the fact that they didn't help her, and given the additional fact that Asuka very nearly succeeded, you can blame everything on the incompetence of the other two.
Rei didn't do it out of her own volition but by following orders, but I already said intent is regardless in such things so point is moot. But the real point is, Asuka redeemed herself when it was necessary, unwillingly or not, unlike the destruction herald worst girl.
Rei is orgasming like the dirty whore she is through every scene and Shinji is bewildered, hardly fighting anything or anyone.
It wasn't necessary as 3.0 proved and it could've been prevented and halted obviously.
It's incredible how short-sighted and narrow-minded you Reifags are. The character fits the fandom I suppose :^)
>>135108122
>what is kaworufag delusion
>>135107838
that would be Rei, as I've written
>reifags trying to read
>>135108250
I was referencing how you choose to use the exact same rhetoric when you attack other characters that aren't Rei.
Don't tell me that you haven't been attacking Asuka this entire thread with intentionally inflammatory remarks, calling her a bitch and a puppet.
And you'll do the same on your Kaworu hating days.
It's just immature, to be frank.
>>135108313
So are you attesting to never bashing Asuka, either in this thread or throughout the whole board? Is this what you're suggesting?
I saved this image three years ago. Nothing's changed.
Asuka was made to bear children.
Reifriends need to take their autism pills now.
>>135108490
Asuka doesn't even want kids.
misato
if you like rei or asuka you might as well start HRT, buddy
>>135108276
>Third Impact started by Shinji being appauled and dismayed at witnessing the most horrible of events, best girl's death. But that doesn't excuse the fact that they didn't help her
Asuka isn't best girl and never will be. But more to the point, I will cut you off there.
Because it's not only not their fault, it's Asuka's. We are adopting causality now, because if Asuka hadn't been such an egoistic twat in the series, she would have still been able to pilot, and she would have been able to help Rei and Shinji against Armisael, and then they could have been together by the end.
But remember: Asuka broke first. Rei and Shinji paid the price of losing one pilot, slowly having to sacrifice themselves.
Make no mistake: Third impact happens, inbetween the three pilots, because of Asuka being a bad person in general.
>Rei didn't do it out of her own volition but by following orders,
Rei didn't follow an order here, she disobeyed one. Your argument is thusly defeated. Here Rei makes up for the failures of Asuka by assuming control of the impact she indirectly and directly helped create, both through her inactivity and then through her death.
Asuka never redeemed herself, because she took no action to do so. Someone who gets government handouts and then spends it on drugs just to die of an overdose later, is not redeemed.
Asuka has already failed by this point.
>Rei is orgasming
uh, yes? and? Comes with attaining godhood, interesting thought. Who doesn't like a good orgasm....
But what's your point, Rei orgasms with a Lance of Longinus "god dildo", and Asuka gets raped to death? How childish of you.
>3.0
I fail to see the relation. There is none.
Asuka, when allotted the same amount of hatred as you show for others, is proven to be far worse.
>reifags getting BTFO on all fronts
>>135108490
>>135108539
>>135108588
As always. Long live Asuka.
>>135108588
Feels great.
>>135108490
not yours but some random nigger one after getting rapde fd dgfdsgsf
>>135096549
the one with best butt
>>135108473
>I was referencing how you choose to use the exact same rhetoric when you attack other characters that aren't Rei.
What is this rhetoric? Tell me.
>Don't tell me that you haven't been attacking Asuka this entire thread with intentionally inflammatory remarks
This is my entire point here: >>135107679
and you're making me quote myself:
>If we were to condemn Asuka as hard as Asukafags condemn Shinji, Rei or Misato, then it will soon become clear that Asuka is the most disgusting substance in the entire EVA universe.
Now that you get that this is an intentional exaggeration, maybe you will understand the actual point: that if one were to nullify the double standard of asuka fans by applying them to asuka as well, then asuka would come worse out of the comparison and analysis than just about anyone else.
So yes, in my post there I did do exactly that, and it was part of my point, something I mentioned explicitly in the end.
I think you're reacting negatively because you found yourself hit by this, because you know you've been unfairly discussing other characters in these threads for probably, quite some time. I've seen it all.
>>135108475
I made that image. Far, far more than three years ago.
>>135108628
I hate this guy's doujins because he'll give them dicks in one panel, and then they won't be there at all in the next.
azumanga daioh > nge
>>135108669
You alright anon?
>rei
Pure, print a new one after fucking for always virgin
>asuka
Cumbucket of muslism and niggers
>>135108741
Way to project there Reifag. reifags literally in the process of combustion out of anger.
>>135108473
>So are you attesting to never bashing Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato or NGE in general either in this thread or throughout the whole board? Is this what you're suggesting?
>kaworufag pretense
>>135108588
Yeah keep posting shitty smug reactions you asucucks. That's all the shitchild is good for.
>>135108780
I'd rather be a Kaworufag than a godawful Reifag
>>135108741
every anon should have their very own rei for loven' cuddling and cum over asuka face whenever they're bored
>>135108885
>kaworufag admitting to being full of shit
>>135108784
>complains about shitty smug reactions
>calls people cucks
>>135108966
I'm not the one shittalking Asuka in one post and then claiming to be too good for that in the next.
Kaworu is my angel
>>135108689
>implying anyone reads your textwalls of bullshit
see >>135104021
You're practically famous in these threads. Not that that's a good thing.
>>135109002
>literally makes his entre in the discussion by shitting not only on other characters, but also people
>pretends he's not a shittalker
>kaworufags getting rekt by greentext alone
>>135109051
I already claimed him, get your own angel.
>>135109065
You need to get over the fact that Asuka is best girl.
>>135109056
Then I guess I was right, I hit the nail straight on the head - you're regularly talking shit about every other character and you're afraid of how it would look if everyone was as aggressive and critical as you.
>>135108982
azumanga daioh > kill me baby
>>135108573
>Asuka isn't best girl and never will be. But more to the point, I will cut you off there.
Hold it right there. This is not even open for discussion. Asuka is the best girl and ALWAYS will be. No matter how many faceless clones you burn through, there's always one true Asuka.
>But remember: Asuka broke first. Rei and Shinji paid the price of losing one pilot, slowly having to sacrifice themselves.
Irrelevant, she pulled herself together whether at the her own whim or other, at the most important moment. The failure of her friends doomed the realm.
Kaworu stopped it alone in 2.0, and that was in the middle of it. By the virtue of not being the worst girl. There is no excuse.
>Rei didn't follow an order here, she disobeyed one. Your argument is thusly defeated. Here Rei makes up for the failures of Asuka by assuming control of the impact she indirectly and directly helped create, both through her inactivity and then through her death.
I said it's a moot point regardless. She faltered when it came to the last stand and it will always bestow upon her the title of worst girl in all parallel worlds anywhere.
Asuka redeemed herself by making a stand, even if subconsciously. Unlike you know who, who was very aware and conscious.
>uh, yes? and? Comes with attaining godhood, interesting thought. Who doesn't like a good orgasm....
Point being it's all for the pleasure of Anno and his perverse mother-fucking fantasies. Argued before that it could've been literally anyone in her position, but the reason it's her is clear. Ugh, and you have the nerve to call her """"""pure""""""
>3.0
There's relation in the simple fact that the "remaking" of the world happened without the rest of the world knowing. After Gendo's plans became public the enitre plot of 3.0 takes place: humanity rejecting instrumentality.
Hence, making best girl of all girls the unsung hero of the series.
>>135109090
A Shinji is fine too.
>>135109199
They're both fine as hell.
>>135108628
dirty whore
>>135109171
Don't you have some requests to make in the drawfag thread?
>>135109051
>>135109252
>>135109090
In all seriousness, though, Kawoshin has something going for it that other ships don't, namely that it's canon.
>>135109325
And that it's based on true historical events.
>Tfw you cant save anyone.
>>135109186
>his is not even open for discussion. Asuka is the best girl and ALWAYS will be. No matter how many faceless clones you burn through, there's always one true Asuka.
One true Asuka nobody cares about, apparently. The topic is closed since Rei is the best.
>Irrelevant
It is not irrelevant because by then, the damage is already done. Not only is Asuka directly responsible for the deaths of her coworkers, but also mankind at large. Asuka was not able to pull herself together.
Therefore Asuka's earlier failures becomes the direct cause for the current failures, not to mentoin her failure to defeat the MP-EVA's, and it was a mistake to even try considering the situation. It only made things worse after all.
>Kaworu in 2.0
Excuse me, but Kaworu is dead in EoE, and 2.0 is not EoE. Are you genuinely confused? Have you watched the original at all?
>I said it's a moot point regardless.
You said that, but not why. Hence your objection is just worthless noise. Because Rei did this on her own, it is hers. Moreover Rei did not falter when it came to the last stand and actually manages to undo the damage Asuka has done.
>Point being it's all for the pleasure of Anno and his perverse mother-fucking fantasies
I think you're projecting, and regardless this has nothing to do with what what goes on in the actual show.
>There's relation in the simple fact that the "remaking" of the world happened without the rest of the world knowing. After Gendo's plans became public the enitre plot of 3.0 takes place: humanity rejecting instrumentality.
This is not a relation, nor is it even a coherent explanation of anything whatsoever. Rebuild has jack shit to do with 3.0.
I will say this, and this is final: Bringing Rebuild into a discussion concerning the original means you're far out of bounds.
evangelion would be a hundred times better if shinji was female
>>135109431
But I want to save Asuka, anon. I don't know why you saved a tumblr image, though.
>>135109377
>go to theaters to see 4.0 on premiere night
>first three minutes are relatively normal
>cut to black
>rest of film is Anno and Iku-chan's long lost sex tape
A masterpiece for the ages.
>>135109431
By switching to Rei-co you can save 15% more than Asuka!
Reminder that choosing Asuka is the same as choosing Hitler.
>>135109464
Your prayers have been answered.
>>135109464
As he was intended to be.
>>135109431
You sure can save an image off of tumblr.
Why did Type-Moon clone Rei and Asuka?
>>135109554
That's ironic considering where your picture comes from.
After all this time I don't get the appeal of Asuka. I think its a mean on the outside, nice on the inside type thing, but in the show it was mean on the outside, half crazy and depressed on the inside. Sure sympathetic but not really someone I would like being around.
>>135109563
Saber is nothing like Rei
>>135109464
no not really, it would be a hundred times more liked though.
>>135109653
After all this time I don't get the appeal of Rei. I think its a cold on the outside, nice on the inside type thing, but in the show it was cold on the outside, half crazy and depressed on the inside. Sure sympathetic but not really someone I would like being around.
>>135109563
Saber is not a shit
>>135109708
Like Madoka.
>>135108490
I want to spend life with Asuka.
>>135109377
has iku been clucking moyoco all this time?
>>135109186
What does it matter of the "one true Asuka" is shit? Super-shit compared to Rei anyhow.
If Rei can die a hundred times without dying, then holy shit, that makes Rei awesome. You're trying to make a near literal superpower into a bad thing.
also
Literally being cleaned, dressed and carried into EVA02 doesn't really constitute "pulling oneself together".
Imagine if Rei was in the hospital bed, dead and lifeless after Shinji jacked off to her, and then some NERV guys came up with a wheelbarrow, chucked Rei in it and then pushed her to terminal dogma where they have a giant catapult where they'll fling her into Lilith.
Because that's pretty much what happened to Asuka.
I would never say Rei 'pulled herself together' if that happened, and you can't ever say Asuka 'pulled herself together' when she gets carried into EVA02 to get a shonen-esque cliche powerup. No-sir.
>>135109818
All us Asukafags do.
Life hack: Anno saves tons of money on trash bags by using Reifags instead.
>>135109845
Is Iku even interested in women?
>>135109463
>One true Asuka nobody cares about, apparently. The topic is closed since Rei is the best.
Rei a shit
>It is not irrelevant because by then, the damage is already done. Not only is Asuka directly responsible for the deaths of her coworkers, but also mankind at large. Asuka was not able to pull herself together.
Concerns her partner directly. She did her absolute best but lacked support. Not her fault Shinji had a hissy fit and Rei played fashion doll with senpai in the meantime. Manga Shinji almost changed this but worst girl faltered yet again.
>BUT KAWORU IS DEAD THIS MAKES NO SENSE
Listen Reifag, I'm illustrating a point that the Impact was obviously jeopardized there at mid-transformation meaning there's no reason it couldn't have been prevented in the first place in the anime.
>You said but not why
I mentioned intent over the past ten replies.The intent doesn't really matter, she saved her then and that's what counts. But she sure shown her true colors when the stakes were highest.
>P-projection!
It's literally the crux of that entire sequence. Rei is Yui, Yui is mom, Shinji is self-insert, gratuitous sequence, you do the math. It's the fucking thing that conflicts Shinji with Misato and worst girl for the entirety of the series.
>This is not a relation, nor is it even a coherent explanation of anything whatsoever. Rebuild has jack shit to do with 3.0.
Relating to the fact anime glossed over entirely... how does this go over yor reifag heads.
It's not out of bounds when the creator himself pens it, touting it as the version he wanted to do all along; because it's a what-if it means it has similar if not identical bounds as the original
>>135109850
Maybe in your warped reifag mind. Enjoy getting hundreds empty meaningless dolls, speaks of your soul.
Rei can't be in the same position because you need an actual mind of your own and emotional thought in order to be broken first, kek.
>>135110150
Rei is the best girl. End of discussion.
>Concerns her partner directly. She did her absolute best but lacked support.
She did not do her best, and even if she did, it was not good enough and by virtue of that, should have let others do her job. It is the same as saying that "Asuka's absolute best" is really, really bad, thus admitting that Asuka is shit.
Rather, it was Asuka who had a hissy fit both before and after the encounter, (refer to >>135109431) for the latter).
Again, it is obvious Asuka is at fault here.
>Listen Reifag, I'm illustrating a point that the Impact was obviously jeopardized there at mid-transformation meaning there's no reason it couldn't have been prevented in the first place in the anime.
Listen retard, your point fails because 2.0 has fuck all to do with EoE. End of story right there. The situation and elements at play, even the fundamental rules are different.
Consider your fanwank shut down.
>you do the math.
Here's some math for you: regardless this has nothing to do with what what goes on in the actual show.
shut down, and aborted.
>Relating to the fact anime glossed over entirely... how does this go over yor reifag heads.
You're not making any coherent sense. Maybe it's time for you to go to bed.
>It's not out of bounds when the creator himself pens it,
It is out of bounds because the original story and the characters discussed are found within NGE and EoE. Out of bounds, sorry anon.
Let it be known that Asukafags are so desperate for arguments, having lost every single argument related to the original, that they are forced to rely on Rebuild.
asukafags unite
>>135110288
Rei has a mind of her own, a stronger one than Asuka's because unlike Asuka, hers didn't falter. Not in my mind, but simply every non-crazy non-asukafag mind: but being able to resurrect after death is indeed a boon that is more or less a super-power. Rei does what Asucan't. Simple as.
Rei is not only a stronger person and character, but also a more successful one.
The war you fought was lost 20 years ago already anon. Let it go.
If you want the Reifag to get permanently banned, say Aye
>>135110456
aye
aye
aye
aye
REI DISCOVERS THE SECRET TO BEING FOREVER BEST GIRL!
ASUKAFAGS HATE HER!
Rei. I liked the part when she called Asuka out on being a selfish glory hog. Underrated moment.
>>135101629
Literally the only right answer.
>>135110456
Aye
>>135110527
rei a shit to be quite honest
>>135110456
Aye
>>135110456
Aye no kidding.
![[Bloat]_The_End_of_Evangelion_[A854019B].mkv_snapshot_00.03.48_[2015.04.05_08.20.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/npgDzBz.jpg "[Bloat] The End of Evangelion [A854019B].mkv snapshot 00.03.48 [2015.04.05 08.20.58]")
>asukafags think that canonically being the otaku self-insert cumrag is a good thing and proves 'love'
>asukafags think that misato coddling Asuka means asuka is strong
>asukafags think that misato ordering the motionless catatonic Asuka washed clean of semen, dressed (because she can't dress herself) and lifted into eva02 like motionless puppet makes asuka strong
>asukafags think that kyoko activating eva02 means asuka got her shit together
>asukafags think that rei and shinji working out an outcome where the now dead asuka can come back to life means asuka saved mankind
Should be shot.
>>135110601
shh, you'll wake the butthurt neo-evafag asuka fans
>>135110367
Not in this or any universe is she even remotely to be considered or even referred to as best girl. That honor goes to the real best girl.
>She did not do her best, and even if she did, it was not good enough and by virtue of that, should have let others do her job.
She needed support as her Eva was pushed to it's limits. You're using the same argument over and over again but that doesn't change the fact that your shit waifu failed to intervene when she should, end of.
>Listen retard, your point fails because 2.0 has fuck all to do with EoE. End of story right there. The situation and elements at play, even the fundamental rules are different.
Alright you daft cunt, I'll throw perfectly coherent arguments out of consideration for your dumb mind, and base it just on EoE. If she had further support (which she sorely needed) they've would've averted the disaster, no amount of faulty fanwank copout logic can deny this. Among other factors to consider like the actual intervention in the manga with the same elements at play.
>It has nothing to do with the show
It has everything to do with the eventual decision for Shinji to chose the best girl, which is what were discussing here. Commenting many times on her hands, look, and the eventual background we learn about her. It's the factual truth, maybe you're too much of an idiot to see it
>It is out of bounds because the original story and the characters discussed are found within NGE and EoE. Out of bounds, sorry anon.
I'm going to make you as crystal clear as possible: humanity doesn't know about its impending extinction. Which in turn means characters like Misato don't know what they were actually doing this whole time. Which means if they did, taking their stance before the SEELE raid, they'd DEFINITELY object wouldn't they? Now think about that, you dumbo, and you're realize Asuka is best girl
>>135110818
They need to wake from their delusions.
>>135110447
Hence why she wouldn't end up unconscious with distraught, because she's a fucking doll. It's not strength of mind if you have nothing to think about or hide. Do you even know what we're talking about
I swear Reifags are the dumbest motherfuckers on the face of the planet
>>135110992
Rei thought more and did more than Asuka.
Asuka is a doll with a string, and when you pull it it goes either "anta baka" or "i wanna kill myself".
By the time Asuka had spent several episodes repeating herself, Rei was having deep internal monologues questioning the meaning of life and beyond.
Asuka is just outclassed, and you'd need to be a dumb asukafag not to see that.
>wake up
>see this
what do?
>>135110905
>I'm going to make you as crystal clear as possible: humanity doesn't know about its impending extinction.
They fear it at the hands of the Angels, so they aren't oblivious. But they don't know how it'll happen.
>Which in turn means characters like Misato don't know what they were actually doing this whole time.
Misato comes to know it by the end, so no. Only in the beginning.
>Which means if they did, taking their stance before the SEELE raid, they'd DEFINITELY object wouldn't they?
That statement defies all reason. If that were the case, SEELE would have no support. No help, no nothing. But here they are, the de facto controlleres of the world. Some would object, and they would follow the path of Fuyutuski, who objects but plays along anyway due to the overwhelming force involved.
>Now think about that, you dumbo, and you're realize Asuka is best girl
How does anything of this mean Asuka is best girl, let alone even good? Let me tell you how fucking bad Asuka is and how toxic her personality is, and how that is indirectly responsible for everything bad to happen in the end:
Asuka is a brainwashed puppet. When Shinji, someone who hasn't been NERV's loyal doll for the past 14 years, tells Asuka that "there might be more to the situation than they think", saying that the Angels might be good guys and that NERV might be the 'baddies', Asuka merely recites her programming that "NO, ANGELS BAD, NERV GOOD, WE FIGHT". What a puppet.
Later when Rei tells Asuka that the EVA's have souls, Asuka rejects the idea because it's not what NERV told her. The EVA's are just machines. Despite everything she's seen with her own eyes.
Asuka is incapable of independent thought. She is a puppet.
She was always incapable of fighting and understanding SEELE or Third Impact. This is why Asuka dies without ever, ever having given it any thought. This is why Asuka's fight is pointless as anything but a plot device for Shinji's descent into madness.
Asuka is shit.
>>135111246
>deep internal monologues that we've never heard or seen
>implying a doormat can think
nigger she doesn't even know when her tit is violated let alone engage in deep thought; face it she's a dumb whore
>>135111382
Kill myself for having a shit fetish and making shitty hypotheticals on an increasingly shitty board.
>>135111416
wrong answer
>>135111513
It's the only answer. BDSM is only good if it's applied to the male/self-insert and I've already seen most of Krutt's stuff. In fact, I doubt anyone could post lewds I haven't seen.
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_19_[5F201614].mkv_snapshot_13.46_[2015.12.23_03.07.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kxqnxVt.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 19 [5F201614].mkv snapshot 13.46 [2015.12.23 03.07.15]")
>>135110905
>Not in this or any universe is she even remotely to be considered or even referred to as best girl. That honor goes to the real best girl.
Best girl being Rei, glad we could settle that.
>She needed support as her Eva was pushed to it's limits.
What is this fanwank? SInce when was this mentioned, shown or illustrated? Support? Keep reading.
>If she had further support (which she sorely needed)
The reason Asuka does not have support, is because Asuka fucked her "support" over during earlier episodes of NGE. Her suck at piloting EVA's as early as Zeruel means the other characters have to over extend themselves to save her ass. Consider the Zeruel fight first.
Asuka is not evne able to penetrate Zeruel's AT-field, whilst Rei in a damaged, inferior EVA-type was able to do so with relative ease.
Not only that, Asuka's failure at combat tactics led to her EVA being completely and entirely crippled, losing her head and her limbs.
But that's not the worst part. Because that day, Asuka's reckless and wanton actions didn't just put mankind at risk, but actually ended up MURDERING AN ENTIRE SHELTER OF PEOPLE. Look at the dead bodies Asuka's shittiness created.
In the following episodes, we fight against Arael, and there Asuka fucks up royally by not understanding combat routine, and is unable to even retreat properly when tactically sound, all because of her ideology of being NERV's puppet pilot to the death. Yes, she is quoted as rather wanting to die than to save mankind here.
Again, Rei saves her ass. Asuka is now completely unable to pilot.
CONGRATULATIONS ASUCKA, ONE PILOT TO GO, GOOD GOING FOR MANKIND HERE.
In the next episode, where the fuck is Asuka when Rei needs her? Where was the "support" needed at this time? That's right, Asuka fucked up. Again. Can't pilot, leaves Rei and Shinji to fend for themselves, and Rei heroically sacrifices herself to save not only the other two, but the rest of mankind.
We lost an EVA because of Asuka.
>>135110456
Aye
>>135110367
This autist is still around?
Fuck this:
>>135110456
Aye
I also want the Kaworutard to be banned.
>>135110456
Go make yourselves a "safe space" if you can't handle it.
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_22'_[4BF95212].mkv_snapshot_16.59_[2015.12.23_03.15.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6SYfZL9.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 22' [4BF95212].mkv snapshot 16.59 [2015.12.23 03.15.27]")
>>135111591
>>135111384
When eventually Kaworu attacks, Shinji is left without backup, because Asuka fucked up the entire synergy of the group, leaving them with TWO eva's less and with ONE vulnerable EVA for Kaworu to exploit, because Asuka shat up her EVA.
Not even joking, Asuka's suckage is part of what causes EVA02 to retreat into itself. Mankind is nearly undone if not for Kaworu being retarded and incompetent.
So when we get to EoE, who's fault is it that we're lacking 'support' for Asuka, fighting a fight she again, shouldn't even be fighting in the first place? It's all Asuka's fault.
Picture related, Asuka screaming she'd rather die than go back. What a pointless death, just like her EoE death, which just made things worse.
No faulty copout asukafag logic can deny these facts.
What you're also missing out on, is the fact that Rei actually averted this shitty mess Asuka created. Because without Rei, there would be a complete instrumentality with NO choice to get back.
So good on you Rei and Shinji for making the right call on this one.
>It has everything to do with the eventual decision for Shinji to chose the best girl,
The fuck? Evangelion isn't "chose your own waifu" adventure. Cancerous Asukafag.
>>135111746
Just let the Asukafag reply to himself, only to get patted on the back by one or two equally butthurt kaworufags.
>you will never be butthurt enough to specifically take caps to piss off other fags
>you will never be a Reifag
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_23'_[F65800E8].mkv_snapshot_08.05_[2015.12.23_03.20.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WMpFOSf.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 23' [F65800E8].mkv snapshot 08.05 [2015.12.23 03.20.33]")
>>135111756
>>135111591
Picture related, Asuka being a complete giant turd not being able to move her EVA due to chimping out in her earlier episode.
It might actually been better if they had let Asuka die and get a better, more competent pilot on board.
>>135111820
>throwing rocks because you're too pussy to engage
>>135111384
>They fear it at the hands of the Angels, so they aren't oblivious. But they don't know how it'll happen.
Knowing the full picture would make a giant difference like it did, but I can't talk about that can I?
>Misato knows
She obviously doesn't know the endgame
>That statement defies all reason. If that were the case, SEELE would have no support. No help, no nothing. But here they are, the de facto controlleres of the world. Some would object, and they would follow the path of Fuyutuski, who objects but plays along anyway due to the overwhelming force involved.
Now who's making baseless assumptions At least I'm basing mine off of what actually happened in the other scenario. Literally the only people who knew the true goal are Gendo, Fuyutsuki and SELEE themselves.
>How does anything of this mean Asuka is best girl, let alone even good? Let me tell you how fucking bad Asuka is and how toxic her personality is, and how that is indirectly responsible for everything bad to happen in the end.
EVAs having human souls and Angels potentially being good (which they aren't) is the gnostic parallel in NGE, difference being Angels recreating the world in name of God and EVAs bringing the human reshaping. Both "evils", one lesser.
Asuka knows what's right, because she fought the evil, regardless of EVA or Angel. Followed her heart to the bitter end. More than your shit girl can say
>>135111820
Yeah, because coming with actual citations and actual proof is a bad thing only "evil reifags" do. Everyone knows the "good guy asukafags and kaworufags" can just fanwank everything much better.
>>135111877
>entertain my autistic textwalls
No, I've been here since the beginning of the thread, turdmongler.
>>135111928
No, it's not, it's being facetious and you know it. Fucking passive aggressive Reifags.
>>135111939
>I'm scared and stupid so I'll just toss insults from the background
>>135111916
>Angels potentially being good (which they aren't)
How are they not good?
All they're trying to do is rejoin their mommy.
Lilin intentionally try to fuck each other over throughout the course the series.
The angels aren't villains, they're just confused children.
>>135111992
>"Babysit me now!"
>>135111966
It's not being facetious. It's pin-point accurate and that makes your ass sore. You can't even argue against it.
That's how much you lost.
It would be healthier, more sane, and more conductive to mental health in general to just accept that Asuka is shit.
>>135112036
I eviscerated a Reifag earlier >>135105800 and don't care to invest the time to do the same to you. Stay mad, faggot.
>>135112035
>I'm smart, just lazy!
You don't see Rei getting melted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKqGw1ODD-E
>>135111916
>Knowing the full picture would make a giant difference like it did, but I can't talk about that can I?
Fuyutsuki knew, tried to object,but joined the dark side. The magi-bitches knew. The upper echelon all knows, and they are numerous people controlling people who also know the truth.
It would scare people and make them rebel, but as demonstrated in the other post: not in the case for Asuka because she's too engrossed in being NERV's doll.
In the meantime, based Rei is attacking the fundamentals of existence and recreating a new understanding of it, which eventually lets her break free from NERV and Gendo's manipulation.
>She obviously doesn't know the endgame
She does at the end, like I said. She finds out through subterfuge and continuing Kaji's work, eventually hacking into the MAGI.
>Now who's making baseless assumptions
How are they baseless? You claim that if there were people who knew, they wouldn't have support. But evidently, in the series there are people who do know (those you mentioned), and considering that they DO have support, then your assumption is the only baseless one.
Admit to that.
>EVAs having human souls and Angels potentially being good (which they aren't) is the gnostic parallel in NGE, difference being Angels recreating the world in name of God and EVAs bringing the human reshaping. Both "evils", one lesser.
>Asuka knows what's right, because she fought the evil
BZZZT.
Wrong answer. Rather than evil or good, this understanding is something Asuka does not have. She is not following her heart, she is repeating her programming. NERV raised Asuka as a soldier since she was a few years old. Selected at a young age, remember?
Asuka has no conception of evil or good, Shinji is asking that very question to Asuka, and Asuka flat out rejects even humoring him. Asuka has no understanding. She is just a puppet, and that is a fact of the original Evangelion.
>>135111756
Shinji was always meant to take care of that, it's his guardian angel anyway. Besides he would've surrendered either way.
Still doesn't exonerate Rei for not showing up like the worst girl she is
>defending instrumentality
reminder that reifags are suicidal and inherently evil.
>The fuck? Evangelion isn't "chose your own waifu" adventure. Cancerous Asukafag.
Yeah it does? That's Shinji's narrative and coping with depression and loneliness. Biblical narrative is finished by this point. Dumb pleb reifag.
>>135112064
>asukafag thinks posting an image reply to a poster who actually wrecked him is "eviscerating"
Asukafags are insane. INSANE.
Every eva thread
>kawoshin fujos run into thread and pretend to be above waifu war while actively participating in it and defending their ship desperately
>reifags make stupidly dumb and longass textwalls about how "perfect a goddess" she is and how stinky and dumb asuka is
>asukafags just do this >>135102321 or stupidly respond to the reifags while complaining about reifags posting
>everyone wants to shitfling about who is the "best" evafag when you are all being retarded
Do you people even realize how you look to an outside observer? Why do you do this shit? Don't you have family/friends to talk to or gifts to wrap?
>>135112101
Actually Kentucky Fried Rei is canon.
>>135112165
Read the whole exchange, revisionist.
>caps
Mad as fuck.
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_24'_[C2827B6D].mkv_snapshot_21.43_[2015.12.23_03.34.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QdWDFif.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 24' [C2827B6D].mkv snapshot 21.43 [2015.12.23 03.34.28]")
>>135112154
>Shinji was always meant to take care of that, it's his guardian angel anyway. Besides he would've surrendered either way.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Might as well say that the MP-EVA's are Asuka's guardian Angels then. See how that works out.
>Still doesn't exonerate Rei for not showing up like the worst girl she is
She has no EVA, and unlike Asuka: Rei actually shows up for the fight anyway. See this picture? See who's there? Oh yeah, it's best girl standing up on that ledge while worst boy gets crushed.
In the meantime, Asuka let some faggot invader Angel KEK her for her own prized EVA, and earlier failed to help the other two leading to another EVA being destroyed while she cowardly scurries down beneath the surface.
Rei and Shinji are working OVERTIME to make up for Asuka's shit personality and piloting.
>reminder that reifags are suicidal and inherently evil.
Reminder that I did not defend instrumentality, and reminder that Asuka is the only character that attempted suicide for the sake of suicide and is actually, by your logic, inherently evil.
>Yeah it does?
>asukafags thinks eva is a harem anime
>>135096549
pic related
>>135112101
cringe
>>135112301
Read it, and you are an insane ASUKAFAG, probably the retarded fireposter.
>>135112165
>Reifag recoiling in all caps rage and purposely misrepresenting the situation when anyone can see it
Priceless.
>>135111591
>>135111867
>What is this fanwank? SInce when was this mentioned, shown or illustrated? Support? Keep reading.
By annihilating all manufactured evas by herself, only being stopped by no power left and spear of longinus?
Holy shit you're dumb
>Comparing a bunch of older battles ans sins irrelevant to the world-ending bout at hand.
Nothing matches knowingly killing civilization. Your girl is a shit no-sho and a traitor.
How is it even possible for you to still be so completely wrong, wow
>>135112342
Kaworu's hair looks so fluffy.
I bet it smells like lavender.
>>135112378
>boogeyman and capslock butthurt is all you have now
Another body added to the pile.
>>135112209
There is methodology to the insanity of course.
While Asukafags and Kaworuafags are shit like that normally, Reifags like demonstrated in >>135107679
only stoop down to their level to demonstrate how crap Asuka acutally is if the double standard of asukafags/kaworufags is cut.
>>135112378
Did he get banned? I haven't seen his reddit memes and ravings in a long time.
Whose going to release Eva BluRay in the States?
>>135112464
>not knowing that fireposter was a myth created by Kaworufags and Reifags to disenfranchise Asukafags using an anon as a catalyst, eventually becoming the manifestation of evil to them and the Bane of Reifags
Do you even browse?
>>135112493
Never.
>>135112540
>myth
No dude, you just got banned for spamming fire and everyone laughed at you for it.
![[Bloat]_The_End_of_Evangelion_[A854019B].mkv_snapshot_00.40.32_[2015.11.30_00.32.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nHu9JFy.jpg "[Bloat] The End of Evangelion [A854019B].mkv snapshot 00.40.32 [2015.11.30 00.32.23]")
>>135112413
>By annihilating all manufactured evas by herself, only being stopped by no power left and spear of longinus?
She didn't annihilate shit, they annihilated her. Here you go. Have a friendly reminder.
>Nothing matches knowingly killing civilization. Your girl is a shit no-sho and a traitor.
Asuka is knowingly killing civlization when she, during multiple previous battles avoided to show up because she was busy being a bitch, or for petty reasons choose to die and ruin everything.
See: Zeruel, Arael, Armisael, Kaworu etc...
Rei was there for Zeruel, Arael, Armisael, AND Kaworu. Reminder that Asuka is a no-show for the latter two, while Rei and Shinji are present for all.
Still forgetting that Asuka trashing around did literally nothing but scare Shinji in the end, actually helping initiate third impact. If not for Rei, who defeated Gendo and SEELE, Asuka would have successfully managed to ruin mankind.
>>135112591
>he's so obsessed with his fictional entity he gets himself banned pretending to be fireposter
If there ever was a fireposter, he's flattered by your autismal dedication I'm sure. Literally stalker tier.
>>135112101
Right, she blows up instead.
And gets cucked by Asuka.
>>135112209
I want to run my fingers through it.
>>135112464
Apparently not: >>135112540
sad thing is, he actually thinks his samefagging and shitposting goes unnoticed. He has hands down the most unintelligent posts in any thread too, this asukafag fireposter is really cancer.
>>135112610
>that image
>that post
Can you give us an ETA on your ritual suicide out of plasma-tier buttsearing?
>>135112643
>replying to yourself
Daily reminder that Reifags were so frightened and intimated by Asukafags they created fireposter.
>>135112658
>o-oh now
>he p-posted something canon
>BETTER REV UP MY ASUKAFAG SHITPOST ENGINE
Fireposter, please fuck off.
>>135112540
What am I reading.
This thread is like a blackhole of madness and tinfoil hats.
>>135112610
>thinking any one person other than MAYBE Gendo is to blame for the events of EoE
>>135112591
hahahahaha ohwow
can't believe this asukafag thinks anyone takes him seriously
>>135112703
>muh boogeyman because my pedantic ass got called out like the little bitch I am
>>135112635
>Touji and Kensuke's faces
>>135112621
Whatever you say, fireposter.
>>135112748
>hahahahaha ohwow
The samefag is so obvious. Don't be so blatant when trying to establish a "second" poster. It's a dead give away, really. You don't have to set such a contrast. Dicksucking yourself in replies is another deadringer, or hastily agreeing.
>>135112591
Why the fuck would you spam a thread you don't like with fire instead of just not responding and letting it die out? It turns it into a spectacle people will come and shitpost in and gets you banned.
>>135112743
The ones to blame are SEELE and the NERV leadership.
But that's not the thing being discussed here, among the children is the target group now. Hence Asukafags are being blown the fuck out, now discovering that Asuka is more or less responsible for all the shit that happens.
Her reckless actions caused far too many innocent people to die, like shown in this image here: >>135111591
look at all the dead bodies in the shelter rubble. That was Asuka's doing.
>>135112799
>it's actually filenames guy
I fucking knew it. Same habits and everything.
Asuka = Hero
Rei = Villain
Good always triumphs above evil.
>>135112123
Upper echelon is exactly the group I mentioned
>In the meantime, based Rei is attacking the fundamentals of existence and recreating a new understanding of it, which eventually lets her break free from NERV and Gendo's manipulation.
By which you mean Asuka's slap is still ringing in her head. The only independent thing Rei has ever done is Asuka's doing after all, top kek.
>She knows
She doesn't, otherwise she wouldn't bother or go apeshit in the unmentionable
>How are they baseless? You claim that if there were people who knew, they wouldn't have support. But evidently, in the series there are people who do know (those you mentioned), and considering that they DO have support, then your assumption is the only baseless one.
Obviously you haven't the slightest insight in their characterization. The father narrative for Misato is indication enough that the reaction would be far more severe like it eventually came to be
>Wrong answer. Rather than evil or good, this understanding is something Asuka does not have. She is not following her heart, she is repeating her programming. NERV raised Asuka as a soldier since she was a few years old. Selected at a young age, remember?
It's very much apparent by this point to everyone who the enemies are, what are you talking about? The only one who didn't know was Rei as per usual
>>135112814
It's an autistic Asukafag. Probably the worst evfag this board has ever seen or will see.
>>135112814
The fireposter PMSes even more than Asuka.
Do not try to understand his logic, it's useless.
>It's a "fireposter is sperging out again" thread derail
Post Kaworu or fat asuka
>>135112748
Right, what a total loser. hahahaha.
>>135112877
>>135112883
>>135112902
>you will never cellphone samefag replying to your post in an inferno of butthurt
Reifags have no tact. Notice how pretty much all other posts stopped? Another dead giveaway.
Take >>135112748
>>135112905
for example. Not even trying at this point.
>>135112902
No, post LAK. That's his ultimate trigger.
Make sure there's plenty of MP Evas in there too.
>>135112883
Of course, I should have known better than to respond to the dreaded Asukafag. Keep on rocking, dude.
Asuka = wins the survivorbowl
Kaworu = wins the loveinterestbowl
Misato = wins most basedcharacterbowl
Shinji = wins the best girlbowl
What does Rei win?
>>135112845
>Upper echelon is exactly the group I mentioned
Post-fact, after I included them, and that sets aside those who support them directly. The point is mine.
>By which you mean Asuka's slap is still ringing in her head
Fairly sure that happens far before Asuka even touches Asuka, and Asuka's slap didn't do anything to Rei at all. Rei answers cash money to Asuka's insult, putting Asuka down causing Asuka to turn to violence because she lost.
>Obviously you haven't the slightest insight in their characterization.
That goes for you, not me evidently.
>The father narrative for Misato is indication enough that the reaction would be far more severe like it eventually came to be
Now THIS is baseless assumption. I'll take the canonical facts, that people were aiding and abetting SEELE and NERV matter of factly when Misato was just sperm.
>It's very much apparent by this point to everyone who the enemies are, what are you talking about?
Considering the shady dealings of NERV, the secrecy, and the point that Shinji raises: "aren't Angels, the messengers of God, the good guys? Are we fighting the good guys?", is a valid entry for discussion.
Little do they know, that it's actually true, that these invading beings are more or less invading because of actions of mankind, and that NERV aren't exactly good guys.
Because Shinji is not a puppet like Asuka is, he is able to come up with this idea, and attempt to discuss it. Because Asuka is a puppet, she can only repeat her programming: "ANGELS BAD; NERV GOOD; PLEASE INSERT PENIS".
>Reifags have no argument left
>Uh oh better mention fireposter and derail
I swear I've seen this before.
The OTP.
>>135113020
BestGirlBowl, BestCharacterBowl
>>135113076
Shinji is best girl
Who wants episodes 25' & 26'?
https://mega.nz/#!QIhGBSJQ!O...k8tZqwzpbpwd-7kgLVrNi9tjbcgw
https://mega.nz/#!UMARXSjK!H...lKnGf4GhwynXzjp6C27aIF0ymX7M
This Reifag is going nuclear, full blown mad. Who obsesses over fireposter anyhow? What a fucking creep with all that samefagging. Reifags truly are cancer.
>>135113076
Already handed them to Misato and Shinji.
>>135113046
>>135113099
Hi fireposter.
>>135112961
I can't bring myself to save an image with scat
>>135113099
What an amusing tantrum. Too bad school school starts soon for it.
>>135112845
Yeah, nah. Rei is well reflected, and if we're take e.g ep 11 and ep 14, she's dealing the creation of man and angel, something Asuka doesn't even consider. Rei is generally reflected on these matters, and that's why Rei can tell Asuka about the EVA's and inform her from a qualified position.
It's why Shinji can try to deviate from what NERV wants them to believe and try to open discussion.
But it's a waste on Asuka because she's nothing more than a puppet at this stage. People who don't realize Asuka is a puppet didn't get Evangelion, because it's baked right into her backstory.
Asuka is likened to a puppet by the people around her as a child, because in truth,t hat was her destiny which she eventually fulfilled. This later forms phobia and Asuka is by the end, merely a puppet dying at NERV's whim without being capable of breaking free.
>>135112342
>What the actual fuck are you talking about? Might as well say that the MP-EVA's are Asuka's guardian Angels then. See how that works out.
Asuka being broken down is something she couldn't help at the moment while Rei somehow couldn't intervene because copout reason no. unknown. Kaworu was obviously going to stop once Shinji entered the fray regardless of who was fighting.
>im not defending instrumentality I swear
So after all this, Reifag actually doesn't like Rei and her only purpose to exist, wew
>suicide is evil
>equating one suicide to genocide and total extinction
>not realizing your calling for your own death
You should just kill yourself, this is embarassing
>>asukafags thinks eva is a harem anime
>what is a plot branch
>>135113076
>best girl
>best character
>>135113104
>>135113076
You gave based to Misato. Rei is the bestcharacter.
>>135113099
Hello fireposter. Funny thing it's kaworufags shitting on you, not reifags. But to break the monotony: you're shit.
>>135113166
Yeah, really. Maybe it'll kill itself and some Kaworufag will blog about it again. That was fucking hilarious.
>>135113020
Goddessbowl as far as NGE is concerned. She is also the one who screwed Gendo over so you could use that as well. She sacrificed herself or something in the manga to help Shinji. In rebuild she did the same to save Mari, iirc. SelfsacrificialSaviorbowl?
>>135113215
>calling fireposter shit when he sent some Kaworufag to the shadow realm
Can any anon here lay credence to such a claim? Fireposter is living up to the chemo he always wanted to be.
>>135113134
Kaworu doesn't look quite enough like a willowy rentboy in that one.
>>135113215
Muh boogeyman.
>>135113221
Reminder that Kaworu canonically raped and clucked Asuka.
>>135113274
All fireposter did was be a continuous laughing stock of not only every /a/ Eva thread, but of other Asukafags as well (see: ARK)
Kaworufags laugh at you too.
>>135113310
Reminder that you have no other tactic of trolling than this weak bait.
>>135113293
Why is Kaworu always so smug?
It's like he knows he's perfect.
>>135113215
>rei
>best
>character
>>135112610
>They annihilated her.
Yeah, after they got rekt themselves and power ran out. Cherrypicking of the worst kind and my point still stands
>nitpicking incomparably less meaningful battles of the past
>defending civilization is killing civilization
This is the last bastion of defense a Reifag. Marvel at the pettiness and irrelevance to the actual point at hand
Reminder if you choose Rei you stoop to previously unknown levels of sore-assing
>>135113192
>Asuka being broken down is something she couldn't help
Yeah, it is. She could help being broken down by:
- Not being a weak willed bitch, which would then not lead to:
- Not sucking shit at Zeruel, getting her ass handed to her while also she murdered innocent civilians
- Not literally handing a near victory to the angels against Arael, saying that she'd rather die than be useful
- Not leaving Rei and Shinji without support, and forcing Rei to sacrifice herself to save Asuka's life AGAIN along with the rest of mankind
- Not fucking up her EVA so bad that EVA02 retreats into itself, leaving it wide open for Angel attack from Kaworu
- Not being a no-show at the last two angel battles
- Not trying to literally kill herself
- Not going into a catatonic state because she sucks so fucking bad
Asuka COULD help it, and that's what kills Asukafags. Because it IS Asuka's fault, not the big mean Shinji or big mean Rei who DARE saving her lives and tries to help her.
>So after all this, Reifag actually doesn't like Rei and her only purpose to exist, wew
What a retarded, inconsequential and untrue remark.
>>>/trash/
>You should just kill yourself, this is embarassing
So mad.
>asukafags still claiming NGE is a harem anime
Wow. The cancer of the fanbase, Asukafags.
so tldr rei a shit and asuka a best
>>135113293
My interest in NGE is waning but I'm still butthurt about how hard it is to find crossdressing art of himI think he's prettier than Shinji
>>135113344
>canon facts
>bait
>>135113369
>arguing with THE autistic textwall Reifag
>>135113316
One shitty non asukafag trip? That's his most grievous crime?
>>135113379
Why would anyone want to go to the Rei board
>>135113416
>implying you are not as autistic for engaging and losing
>>135113399
Basically, your digits confirm.
>>135113448
We just don't know.
>>135113226
AKA: Best Character Bowl.
Kaworufags can have their meta "love interest bowl" nonsense.
Asukafags can have their "survivor-thanks-to-rei-saving-her-ass-bowl" pity prize.
Misato will always be based albeit a bit perverted with the children.
But Rei will always be the best girl. Shinji is the best boy.
Thus it was spoken.
I guess the non-canon meta stuff was never enough for Kaworufags, or the pity prize never enough for Asukafags. Fast forward twenty years.
>>135113400
There's plenty of stuff where they're both crossdressing
>>135113467
I've tardwrangled that Reifag countless times.
>>135113310
No, a dummy plug did. That's just like saying Rei crippled/killed Toji/Asuka.
>>135113369
How exactly does Asuka "defend civilization" when she's basically opting out of every other fight near the end, forcing Shinji and Rei to work overtime ?
>>135113528
>responding to obvious Kaworufag bait other than to designate it as such
>>135113505
>Shinji is the best boy
Shinji is best girl.
>>135113041
No it's not, I brought it up first and still doesn't prove others would join them for, for which there is plenty of counter-evidence
>Fairly sure that happens far before Asuka even touches Asuka, and Asuka's slap didn't do anything to Rei at all. Rei answers cash money to Asuka's insult, putting Asuka down causing Asuka to turn to violence because she lost.
Nope it's pretty much the sole reason Gendo's plan failed. Rei is plant
>Now THIS is baseless assumption. I'll take the canonical facts, that people were aiding and abetting SEELE and NERV matter of factly when Misato was just sperm.
Again, in an effort to combat the angels, ignorant of the true endgame. Misato would never carry out a plan like that after an identical experience in the past
>Considering the shady dealings of NERV, the secrecy, and the point that Shinji raises: "aren't Angels, the messengers of God, the good guys? Are we fighting the good guys?", is a valid entry for discussion.
Refer to the clear biblical parallel. The angels were carrying out the same order under different command.
You literally cannot disprove Rei not being a doormat puppet
>>135113527
Fireposter, I don't think you've ever won an argument in your life.
Because for normal, sane people, posting a reaction image saying "OMG I OUTSKILLED THAT REIFAG", or "OMG I SOLOED LIKE TEN REIFAGS" does not constitute anything but evidencing your own loss.
One day you'll understand, I think, that everything you ever posted on this board just made Asukafags look worse, and their cause weaker. So bad I would not put it past Rei-haters to label you a stealth Rei-fag and losing on purpose to Rei-fags.
Yes, rei-haters are that insane.
>>135113634
see>>135112301
There were literally two Asukafags who had a problem with "fireposter." A shipper and ARK.
>>135113583
>No it's not, I brought it up first and still doesn't prove others would join them for
Fuyutsuki was shown to do just that, and that should finally settle the fact that you are wrong for good. OK?
>Nope it's pretty much the sole reason Gendo's plan failed. Rei is plant
Asuka is plant with semen on it, Rei is goddess. Canonical fact, Asukafag.
>Again, in an effort to combat the angels, ignorant of the true endgame.
Lower-level plebs, maybe, not not anyone high up in the system. Reminder that people designed the MP-EVA's to be able to initiate impacts.
>Refer to the clear biblical parallel. The angels were carrying out the same order under different command.
This is entirely inconsequential to Asuka's rebuttal or her point of view, much less the discussion being raised at the time.
At the time, Asuka dismissed the intellectual pursuit of understanding, which would have led her to conclude that NERV are arseholes. But she can't do that because muh piloting.
Same reason she can't accept what Rei says because it would ruin her Ace Pilot Fantasy.
>You literally cannot disprove Rei not being a doormat puppet
Yeah, Rei shreds Gendo and attains her lost Godhood, Asuka dies a bitch and gets saved by Rei dozens of times.
Rei wins.
>>135113748
And to call them Asukafags is a misnomer, I should add.
>>135113634
>caps again
Sounds like this guy won against you. I don't see him raising textwalls of concentrated butthurt, do you? And who are you to speak for all Asukafags? Sounds like you're just a Reifag towing the line.
Reminder.
>>135113634
Fireposter confirmed for the Broxigar of Eva threads.
>>135113379
>Yeah, it is. She could help being broken down by: autistic untrue list
Mostly sparked by mindrape which is an alien concept to worst girl since she is a complete and utter personality void. To make any kind of recovery after that let alone an amazing feat of recovery Asuka had is nothing sort of astonishing. Something Rei can never claim
It's still Rei's fault for being a no-show when it truly mattered :^) why won't you just accept this completely indisputable fact? Oh right, cause Reifags don't understand anything like their doll.
>What a retarded, inconsequential and untrue remark.
Being in denial of what you just said is a sign of worn out false arguments and deflection. Reifag has the mental capacity of his shit waifu
>So mad.
I'm sure you are, if I blatantly contradicted everything you spent the last hours defending I'd be announcing anger too
>still thinking it's harem
There's other reasons for watching this anime except for staring at worst girls soulless face, it's called the plot and understanding it
Absolutely humbling, has it really come to this reifag, stooping so low you don't even remember what you're talking about? Shallow
>>135113909
reifags don't ship
>>135113916
You play WoW?What's your server?
>>135113467
>implying he isn't running out of shit to falsely deny
>>135113955
They obviously do according to that poll.
>>135113993
He was referring to the age old adage of "Reifags don't ship they said." Reifags are perennial closet-shippers.
>>135113920
>Mostly sparked by mindrape which is an alien concept to worst girl since she is a complete and utter personality void.
Actually, Rei aced her test in the following episode.
Said mindrape only happens because Asuka fucks up earlier, woops! She wasn't even supposed to sortie, the dumb thing! Then she doesn't pull back in time either because she's retarded and says she'd rather die! Oh no.
>To make any kind of recovery after that let alone an amazing feat of recovery
Rei aced it. Shinji was turned into orange juice and mindprobed twice. Asuka is just shit.
The difference is that Shinji and Rei are more in touch with themselves, Asuka is shit and denies it, and just like a butthurt Asukafag she collapses when she's faced with the fact of how shit Asuka actually is.
>Being in denial of what you just said is a sign of worn out false arguments and deflection. Reifag has the mental capacity of his shit waifu
Another inconsquential, untrue remark. Fantastic, I care not for your strawmen or you putting words in my mouth.
>I'm sure you are, if I blatantly contradicted everything you spent the last hours defending I'd be announcing anger too
You're so mad.
>There's other reasons for watching this anime except for staring at worst girls soulless face, it's called the plot and understanding it
>Absolutely humbling, has it really come to this reifag, stooping so low you don't even remember what you're talking about? Shallow
Still defending it's a harem, I see. Shame.
>>135113993
I was being ironic.
And what>>135114014 said.
Christ, you guys.
It's been a long time since I last visited Ev/a/ threads and I can already see it's still completely unchanged. Even the Reifag who writes all those insane screeds is still here, spewing the exact same garbage.
I was hoping people would get tired this shit, but jesus fuck. It never ends. Will final just end this madness?
>>135113909
>>135113955
>>135113993
>>135114014
>asukafag replying to himself and posting a false translation
Sad.
Weren't there a time where Kaworufags complained about how they felt things were being falsely translated....?
>>135114072
Leave while you can, it will never get better
>>135114072
Reminder that you're the reason for it's shittiness, mr. "i don't have a new IP in this thread".
>>135114087
It's not a false translation, since I'm the one who translated it for /cm/
I'm the same Kaworufag who translated the BR extras, by the way.
>>135114087
>...
Don't do that.
>Reifags don't ship they said
https://desustorage.org/c/thread/2548955/#2548955
I'm going to post more of these polls since they're fairly interesting.
Pay special notice to the dates they were posted, and if they're pre-3.0 or not.
Is being a raging, bitter, autistic faggot a requirement for being a Reifag? (Besides shit taste?)
>>135114247
Sure is. Most have taken it upon themselves to don a massive victim complex and a penchant for revisionism, too. They're dindus, in essence.
>>135113767
Fuyutski is also the one who bore with him since the very beginnings of the project and was more informed than anyone else on the face of the planet. You're still wrong about everyone else though.
>Asuka is plant with semen on it, Rei is goddess. Canonical fact, Asukafag.
Now this is just pathetic. Asuka is the literal Eve and Rei a bleeding head with and a ghost in the darkness
>Lower-level plebs, maybe, not not anyone high up in the system. Reminder that people designed the MP-EVA's to be able to initiate impacts.
Nobody in the mid/high levels really understood anything until the attack. That's why they were so ill-prepared for a human attack. Only the top knew.
>This is entirely inconsequential to Asuka's rebuttal or her point of view, much less the discussion being raised at the time.
She wasn't wrong either. She obviously had no problem killing mass produced evas so that puts and end to that.
>free godhood under influence of best girl dependent on the choice of someone else
Are we gonna go in circles forever anon? You can never dispute this and you tried a lot.
Asuka, flawless victory
>>135113355
Not only that, he still gets to come home to this every night after a long hard day of robot fighting.
>>135114163
You don't even find it a tad "creative" to add an "x" between the names then, do you? Nor do you find it acceptable to translate it as couples?
You'll probably protest, but let me tell you this:
Every complaint you've made against Asukafags mistranslating and lying about material, is not more or less invalidated since you've proved to be no better yourselves.
All it took was a little bit of bait, a little bit of shipping material, and you became the monsters you cried about earlier. Congratulations.
So even though you'll protest in this thread, I'm satisfied, because I know I hit the nail on it's head and I know you know that as well. You will also know that protesting only makes me more right.
>>135114182
Quiet fireposter. Go get a job. In the real world nobody cares, but you wouldn't know that. Go back to your mommys basement.
Looks like fans sort of got their wish with this one.
>>135114306
Don't use elipses and you may not have to use a boogeyman, newfag.
And that's all I have for now.
>>135114019
>aced the test
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>crying strawman
You still haven't answered and you continue to deny your own contradictions so vital for this entire argument to make sense. It's rather you who resorts to "le mad" which obviously means the opposite
>absolutely still not understanding the narrative
>h-harem!
Go rewatch you clearly don't know your stuff
>>135114291
>Fuyutski is also the one who bore with him since the very beginnings of the project and was more informed than anyone else on the face of the planet. You're still wrong about everyone else though.
Nope, I'm right, because I've shown you to be wrong concerning that people would all object. I've even shown that even thsoe reluctant would be liable to join. The rest you have, is fanwank.
>Now this is just pathetic. Asuka is the literal Eve and Rei a bleeding head with and a ghost in the darkness
Nice fanwank.
>Nobody in the mid/high levels really understood anything until the attack.
Working at NERV != mid/high level. They're regulars.
>That's why they were so ill-prepared for a human attack. Only the top knew.
They were ill prepared because their funding was cut, and even the bridge bunnies suspected that. Woops.
>She wasn't wrong either.
She was wrong, because she dismissed the idea that NERV could be bad and thus sealed her own fate as their puppet. Shinji didn't, Rei didn't, thus they were free and Asuka not.
You no longer have any point.
>Are we gonna go in circles forever anon? You can never dispute this and you tried a lot.
I have on several occasions.
Rei is negative towards Gendo before Asuka even lays a hand on her, both during episodes like 11 and episodes like 16, where Rei questions her relationship with the guy.
Moreover, Rei corrects Asuka instantly and isn't even puzzled, so it had literally no bearing on Rei.
Sorry but your doll Asuka just doesn't cut it.
>>135114306
二人 can be translated as couple, or pair
And sure, adding an x was a more liberal choice, but the main idea is conveyed in the end.
>Every complaint you've made against Asukafags mistranslating and lying about material
I don't remember ever complaining about that, though.
I assumed Asukafags generally didn't know Japanese.
Even so, I don't see how this is a mistranslation at all. Rei and Shinji was voted in 2nd place for who would best fit this romantic setting. You can't change that fact.
>>135114435
Rei found the ugliness in herself, the loneliness, and cried. Then she understood it. Accepted it, moved on.
Then she blew up the Angel.
Asuka bitched, moaned, and became an inert retard object. She failed her test, Rei aced hers.
>the rest
Yawn. You were beaten soundly earlier and no amount of strawmen will change that.
>>135114461
When Asuka asked if Rei would kill herself if Gendo told her to, she said yes without hesitation.
>>135114523
>Yawn
What's next, asterisk actions? Back to Reddit. For the record, I'm not the anon you've been replying to.
Reifags are absolutely thirsty for a LRS ending, and they just can't hide it. Literally the biggest shippers.
>>135114595
The biggest shippers are comically enough, the biggest shitters.
>>135114595
Polls and now even their /c/ threads confirm.
Disgusting.
Now we know why they hate 3.0 so much, it ruined their shipping fantasies.
>>135114484
Also translated a reference"Rei 2" for slang, by the way if that confuses you.
Although more interestingly, I'm sure you'll notice the clear absence of "二人" in the image. Good bluff though, would probably have fooled a few idiots.
Good job being even worse than the people you used to complain about.
>>135114624
Had me a giggle.
>>135114582
>When Asuka asked if Rei would kill herself if Gendo told her to, she said yes without hesitation.
Yet she's able to claim she' not a puppet. Isn't that strange?
Might have something to do with what Gendo and Rei knows, but not Asuka and likely, moronic Asukafags. I say moronic Asukafags because Asuka is just Asuka, her character is to be ignorant, but Asukafags have no excuse since they watched the thing.
Rei can literally die and come back again, and Rei knows that. So of course she'd do that. But not wantonly, or without purpose.
Because Rei shows she'll avoid killing herself or alternatively, kill herself even if NERV and Gendo doesn't want it. That's what makes Rei not a puppet, to choose for herself what is best and to make that decision lucidly and clearly.
>>135114642
二人 is ふたり anon, check Jisho.org if you don't believe me.
And on Jisho it said couple and pair as possible definitions.
Not sure why you're trying to correct a native speaker when you yourself don't even know Japanese, but alright.
Regardless:
>Rei and Shinji was voted in 2nd place for who would best fit this romantic setting. You can't change that fact.
>Good job being even worse than the people you used to complain about
I never complained about anyone, though.
Did Seph ever really clarify what would happen with the BD extras? There were some things I was looking forward to. Archive doesn't turn up much in detail.
>>135114523
>Being able to suppress and discard fears on the virtue of having nothing to hide or personality which could be endangered by it
It still doesn't help her case and makes her into an even bigger doll than she was up to that point. And with that calculating ability, it especially doesn't excuse not showing up at the end
>Yawn.
You literally dug yourself into a hole and now you're spending every last resort deflecting. Just admit you fucked up
>>135114785
You forget that Rei did have insecurities and hurtful things to discover. She did find them and overcame them.
Asuka didn't because Asuka is a weak shit. Just admit you fucked up and Asuka is shit.
>>135114781
We haven't heard from him in a while.
You can read the translations for two of the videos, here:
>>135100202
>see "Rei or Asuka?" thread, enter it
>500+ posts
>blocks of text
Never change, /a/.
I find it ironic that the Reifags claim to be above their counterparts but still get provoked into heated argument every time.
>>135114754
Because it's too easy: again notice it's clear absence.
You know how rotten you are.
>>135114892
Reifags are the biggest shitters.
>>135114754
>huge drama involving evageeks and 4chan moderation over a fanbase war between /cm/ and evageeks
>yeah imma just pretend that didn't happen
>>135114843
>implying short-term discoveries can match lifelong fears
Something a plastic attempt of a human being would do rather than an actual one.
And still couldn't intervene when needed.
Asuka came back at the right time. Rei didn't. Rei is shit, Asuka is best girl.
>>135114919
Are you just trolling at this point?
Here, I even underlined in blue for you and pulled up a screenshot from Jisho.
Either way: >Rei and Shinji was voted in 2nd place for who would best fit this romantic setting. You can't change that fact.
I'd say you're the rotten one for denying what is displayed in bright black text for you.
>>135114970
I honestly can't keep up and don't want to keep up with all this retarded drama. Sorry.
>>135114996
>implying it was a short-term discovery
Because Rei hasn't been marked for life with the whole "lonely replacable mechanic false person" thing, right.
No, Asuka is just weak compared to Rei, who had even to endure physical attack as well.
>And still couldn't intervene when needed.
Talking about Asuka? Because Rei intervened for Asuka's sake. Asuka didn't help Rei, or Shinji.
Has it occurred to you niggers that perhaps these waifu wars are, in fact, exactly what Anno wanted to exact revenge on his over-materialistic fanbase?
>>135115065
Yes it was, because she was unaware of her own situation and showed minuscule amounts of emotion prior to it
She didn't even flinch when she lost her entire arm, if that doesn't spell bonkers I don't know what does
So obviously comparing both relatively means Asuka overcame far more in the end.
Except when it came for the final sacrifice
>>135115031
Are you? I question you again, translating it as couple, given that context which is not cited as romantic, is that not creative? Again, notice the clear absence.
Moreover, despite the "options" being worded very differently, they do not at all constitute "x" pairings.
So "wtf kaworufag", don't feign innocence. It is not a shipping poll, and your creative additions that warp it's meaning just shows how rotten you are.
Good thread
>>135115293
>translating it as couple, given that context which is not cited as romantic
ふたり can be translated as either couple or pair(ing), Jisho agrees with me.
The context is romantic. It's the emperor and empress of Hinamatsuri.
>they do not at all constitute "x" pairings
Japanese can list pairings with と, just like in that picture, if they don't already have a name for it like LAS and Kawoshin.
Regardless, the meaning is not changed or warped despite your minor nitpicking.
Rei x Shinji won second place over Asuka x Shinji.
Or are you going to say Yui x Gendo having a place in the ranking means that the options is just two groups of people or friends? No. It's romantic and as shipping as it gets.
Unwilling to face this fact, you try to move goalposts. It's honestly very rotten and terrible of you.
I'd have expected better from a Reifag.
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_18_[EB7A5EA5].mkv_snapshot_15.19_[2015.12.23_05.12.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rdbGNxV.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 18 [EB7A5EA5].mkv snapshot 15.19 [2015.12.23 05.12.54]")
>>135115242
>Yes it was, because she was unaware of her own situation and showed minuscule amounts of emotion prior to it
She was aware, but not of it all. Hence why Rei recognizes some, but not all.
>She didn't even flinch when she lost her entire arm, if that doesn't spell bonkers I don't know what does
Another scene, another time, another context - Rei flinches a lot when she is in pain, here for instance when her arm is "blown off" in the EVA.
Notice the gritted teeth, the sweat forming on her forhead, and the gripping of her arm where she's 'hurt'.
>So obviously comparing both relatively means Asuka overcame far more in the end.
Nope. Because Rei actually overcame here, she on her own, without help from anyone else, she alone against Armisael, despite being under heavier attack, managed to defeat the Angel.
Rei does this by regaining her composure, and striking back. Asuka remained motionless and destroyed a large portion of NERV by shooting around randomly.
Rei wins.
>>135115435
You chose the wrong context, because it merely sets a scene not a romantic context. You inserted that.
>と
Which is merely saying "this and that", and for the record, as you're already aware: there already exists shipping terms for all these characters. More over people don't really use "と" for denoting shipping, you liar.
>Or are you going to say Yui x Gendo having a place in the ranking means that the options is just two groups of people or friends?
Nice strawman, but even if I were, I'd obviously pick EVA01 and EVA02.
Good job showing you're a liar though.
>>135115031
It's more accurate to translate that as "which two characters", and there's literally no reason to use "Character x Character" for any of the options when there's descriptive language that differs for each option. It's not even a translation, it's a blatant lie.
But whatever.
/evafag drama problems
![[Bloat]_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_-_18_[EB7A5EA5].mkv_snapshot_15.15_[2015.12.23_05.12.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3ulrG0Y.jpg "[Bloat] Neon Genesis Evangelion - 18 [EB7A5EA5].mkv snapshot 15.15 [2015.12.23 05.12.44]")
>>135115454
>>135115242
Another shot of Rei flinching - notice the dramatic reaction (for Rei anyhow). Suffice to say, Rei suffers all the same.
But back to Armisael, Rei does far better, and don't forget:
Asuka bailed out on Shinji and Rei, and caused not only the death of many innocent civilians, but completely destabilized NERV's fighting force and as a result, was not there for Rei when Rei needed her.
Despite that, Asuka was saved by Rei in the end.
>>135115542
>there already exists shipping terms for all these characters
And they're not going to be used on an official poll.
Just like the Kawoshin clothing line is Advertised as カヲルとシンジ, notice the と
Regardless, it doesn't matter, you're reaching.
The empress and emperor of Hinamatsu are a couple.
The poll is asking who would best suit and fit them.
Rei and Shinji earns second place.
No goalposting can change that fact.
>>135115625
Even if I were to translate it as which two characters, and use Rei and Shinji instead of Rei x Shinji, they would still get 2nd place over Asuka and Shinji, as fans seems to think they would best match the iconic couple of the emperor and empress.
I'm sorry that this is such a painful fact for you, but such minor details doesn't sway the main idea of the poll.
For Reifags to go to such lengths and claim ideas on a language they don't even know (Seriously, how do you not know 二人 is ふたり?!), is just pathetic and honestly insulting.
Do you have no shame to blatantly lie like this?
I understand you want to try and pretend Reifags aren't shippers, but that has long been given away with just one look at your threads on /c/.
I'm glad that I posted these polls, however, now people can get a look at what the fanbase was actually like. Even before 3.0. And hopefully some of the rhetoric you Reifags use will cease to exist, as it will be proven wrong.
