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85 days until the theatrical release of Digimon Adventure tri. part 2 on 12th March, entitled "Decision". The home media release will follow on 2nd April.
A plot summary for "Decision" can be found below:
>Time passes since Alphamon’s appearance, and the town of Odaiba slowly restores itself.
>“I’ve decided that once I’m back in Japan, I’m going in a big bath no matter what!” With Mimi’s cry, and the additional intent of welcoming their new additions to the team, Mochizuki Meiko and Meikuumon, the Chosen Children go to a neighborhood hot springs theme park. The group has a fun time there, but only Jou was nowhere to be seen among them.
>Jou agonizes over the reality of upcoming university exams, as well as his responsibility as a Chosen Child: “Why do we have to do this again? Why us?”
>It’s at that moment that another infected Digimon appears in Odaiba: that proud Virus Digimon, Ogremon. As TV stations capture its rampage by broadcast on helicopter, Mimi and Palmon take a stand: “We’ll make it clear to them that there are good Digimon too!” However, Mimi and Palmon ignore Koushiro’s attempts to restrain them, and go to fight, bringing about an unexpected result…
>Jou and Mimi, each carrying their own worries. On the day of the school culture festival at Tsukishima General High School, “that man” appears before the two…
>Now, the adventure evolves once again…
Map showing which games/series/manga are canon with each other.
brave heart tri. ver. > brave heart
Butter-fly > Butter-fly tri. ver.
I wish tri. ver. > I wish
AiM's voice sounds completely different for the new rendition.
>>135056379
Probably because she was a teen when Adventure first came out.
Ryo's a faggot and a hack
>>135056292
>Xros Wars manga takes place in the same world as every other series, even though these series take place in a different world from each other
How does that even work?
Frontier is the worst season.
02 chart
>>135056911
Isn't Vikemon Gomamon's Ultimate?
>>135056645
Spoilers ahead:
Tailmonis the same exact one from Adventures; she says she's been to the human world together with a girl before; and she travels with Wizardmon, whose data she says she finally tracked down after centuries of searching for it (after he died in Adventures).
Ulforcevdramonis the one from V-Tamer 01, he says he too once travelled with a human partner and even saved the world long ago.
The events of Savers and Frontier are mentioned as being part of the ancient history of the digital world, which had been destroyed before (by Lucemon). “God”(Homeostasis) was created as a more peaceful replacement for Yggdrasil, after Yggdrasil orchestrated an invasion of the human world in Savers.
Time and space are a little unhinged in the Digital World of Xros Wars. Time passes much more quickly, on the order of well over a century for every year that passes in the human world.
It's also implied that the Digiworld is a dimension of its own and its borders aren't that well-defined.
Frontier chart
Savers chart
>>135056964
Plesiomon used to Gomamon's ultimate and Vikemon was Shakkomon's.
Bio-hybrid possible normal digimon chart.
Young hunters possible normal evo chart.
Royal Knights chart
>>135056970
>Savers mentioned as being part of the ancient history
I really want to read ancient tomes that describe Masaru's adventure.
>And, lo, the Messenger of the Fist came upon them, and the glory of the Fist shone round about them: and they were very sore.
>>135057082
>Furry Ice Creature-> Loch Ness Monster
>Japanese angelic doll -> Furry Ice Creature
???
Olympos XII + Plutomon chart
Seven Demon Lords chart
Big Death Stars + Apollomon chart
>>135057269
Yes. Vikemon was Shakkomon's ultimate until the adventure psp game where they made it Gomamon's ultimate.
>>135056970
They also mentioned something about there being multiple human worlds, that worked just like the multiple zones of Xros Wars' digital world, didn't they?
>>135058051
Wizardmon was speculating that the “Digital World” was the name of a larger meta-universe, of which (at least Taiki's) human world was a zone.
>>135057438
It was back and forth much before Tri.
>Look up Digimon on Netflix for giggles
>Digimon Fusion has only one star
Is it really that hated?
>>135057438
I vote Goddramon be Shakkoumon's Ultimate
>>135058496
It's terrible even by dub standards.
>>135057371
Well the Dorbickmon line is good.
Lordknightmon or Alphamon?
>>135060232
Magnagarurumon.
My film 1 bluray showed up today, it's a very nice piece
>>135060321
>JobberGarurumon
Fixed
Digimon soul Chaser is out guys
>>135060522
Show pics
>watch the Digimon Deathbattle thing
Well that was 20 minutes of delaying a foregone conclusion
>>135060920
What's the game even about
>>135058496
It's another case of a decent cast (outside of Vic Mic-whatever-his-name-is as Kiriha) with a fucking terrible script and horrible name changes that don't even make sense.
OTP
>>135062683
I cannot wait for this game
February is so far away
>>135057371
But they don't have lines.
The female avatar,Shiki's design is a crime. It should be against the law for a girl avatar to be so much superior to the male one.
>>135061283
I kinda wish they had used metalgreymon instead of wargreymon. Dude never gets any respect
Mimi or Meiko?
Who is best girl and why is it Venusmon?
>>135056911
I don't need to make charts for partners since I finally started playing Re: Digitize. I'm studying guides to figure out what I should evolve this little guy into. The addition of accessories is adorable. I hope they add it in Next Order.
>>135064889
Yeah, i always liked his design.
>>135066004
I love the virus MetalGreymon.
I hope we see more of Taichi's MetalGreymon in Tri.
Ladydevimon is shit would keep away from an Angewomon if they were dating.
>>135058051
>>135058187
I concluded that they were going with what 02 mentioned once early in its run. There are multiple Digital Worlds and multiple Human realms and each exists on it's own. So Xros went with that one dropped possible plot from 02 and expanded on it.
>>135065861
>even having to ask that question
What part of "eternal best girl" do you not understand?
>>135066578
>I concluded that they were going with what 02 mentioned once early in its run.
No they weren't. Multiverses are a thing in so many things I don't even know why you would jump to this conclusion.
>>135066786
Because with Digimon it makes some sense. There is nothing wrong with having an expanded universe if done right.
>>135064317
>Susanoomon and Dukemon in the party
Okay, so how does Jogress/fusions work in this game? Is Susanoomon even a fusion here? If you fuse two Digimon into one, does another one spontaneously pop out to take the other's place? What the hell's going on?
>>135067317
>Is Susanoomon even a fusion here?
Probably not.Remember those item evolutions in DW1, Agnimon and Susanoomon are like that.
>>135060920
Oh, that explains this.
>>135067433
That's probably going to be the only way to get them.
>>135067433
But this game DOES have fusions. We know this for a fact.
>>135068397
>Have two partners
>Fuse
>Get new second partner
>evolve it
There.
>>135068541
So instead of Digimon dying, you just use them up in fusions?
>>135068583
No clue. I'm just guessing based on what I'm seeing.
>>135068397
I'm not saying it doesn't but Frontier mons are likely going to be dead end item evos since we are only getting those two.
>>135068880
Not them, but how would you know? As far as I've seen there's nothing saying we wont get any others.
>>135068397
>>135068397
From what I understand fusion occurs when both your digimon die in a fight.
>>135069120
It's pretty much exactly what happened in Our War Game too, which is why they have be at critical health first.
The preorder bonuses are evolution items so that's probably how they got two on a team.
>>135069040
Toei still really doesn't like Frontier. And last time Toei used any Frontier hybrids in a game was DW3 with only Agnimon.
>>135069261
That means literally nothing.
What's the best Digimon in Re:Digitize?
>>135069261
It's because non-standard evolutions are a pain to balance around. Agnimon has three Ultimate-equivalents. That's just annoying.
>>135069373
Shoutmon and Gumdramon were shown in the newest trailer oddly enough.
I hope armour Digimon get in.I was so happy Rapidmon was in Cyber Sleuth.
>>135069261
>Toei
>games
What?
And the last time a recruitable Agnimon showed up was on the DS Xros Wars games.
>>135069406
Probably just OmegaShoutmon and a Jogress with ZekeGreymon.
>今キミを見つめてるアクセンティア
>その心が壊れてしまわないように
>ずっとたった一人で歩けはしないさ
>そうさ今日も明日もきっと一年だってもゴールじゃない！
>そしてキミを抱きしめるアクセンティア
>取り出したのは小さな贈り物
>心と心を繋いでいく
>そんな力をキミのその右手に ガン！ガン！ガン！
Find a flaw
>>135070460
Not enough skin showing.
>>135070460
Can't do robo paizuri.
>>135070460
Doesn't like men
I have been way out of the loop, when does the reboot of digimon world 1 come out?
>>135070946
March 17
Based on the trailer, it looks like Himari's Plotmon's probably gonna evolve into Holydramon.
I'm more curious about the Gaioumon and Kuzuhamon that were fighting the Black Knight, though.
Oh dang I just realize that Ami is Chinatsu and Shiki is Ayano
>>135069979
What the fuck is an accentia?
how2drawdigimans?
>>135072348
Ask RKD or this guy.
>>135072426
What? No. No, don't do that. Stop.
I decided to actually to actually sit down and watch tamers and its so much better than i remembered when i was a kid. Too bad the animation for the fights are shit tier
>>135072565
Welcome to Toei.
At least it's better than Adventure was.
>>135072348
Wish I knew.
Mons are hard.
>>135072223
A fancy word with no base meaning.
>>135072948
So why is it looking at me and embracing me?
>>135073084
Because you are adorable.
>>135070814
>Implying she can't maneuver her cybernetic tities around and do unorthodox movements to generate maximum pleasure
>>135070879
That makes as much sense as me being sure that when two lesbians fuse, they become absolutely heterosexual.
>>135073084
The game will tell you at some point what it is
>>135073187
>That makes as much sense as me being sure that when two lesbians fuse, they become absolutely heterosexual.
That follows. Logically two negatives must make a positive when combined right?
Is there somewhere that has all or a decent number of the Adventure HD torrents?
Should I rewatch the original Adventure sub or dub?
>>135074260
there is
>>135075383
yes
>>135075383
Are you actually asking this?
>>135075383
sub
Better music, better characters, no cut anything, no lame jokes shoved in everywhere.
>>135075457
can you link to them?
>>135075383
sub by far
>>135075508
could you name the website?
>>135075579
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=0&term=digimon+adventure
Use Nyaa, there is where i downloaded tri and some other digimon stuff.
>>135075689
thanks
Reminder the D3s go up in 3 days, if anyone is interested.
There's totally not a limited supply though, so feel free to wait until I get mine ordered.
>>135070460
I can't
>>135074015
>lesbian
>negative
Rude.
>>135075383
Sub.
The dub has decent casting but is incredibly dated because of the script tossing in jokes that haven't aged well.
The original version doesn't have that.
>>135070588
She doesn't have be dressed like a fucking hooker to be great Anon.
Why is the savers dub so bad?
>>135075481
Use google.
>>135075689
Don't spoon feed.
>>135075689
doin' goddramon's work, don't listen to >>135078521, spoonfeed as much as you want
Who the fuck doesn't know about Nyaa anyway?
>>135078871
Anime newfags who can't into torrenting.
You will never rest your head in the ample bosom of your waifumon.
>Beelzebumon
>Isn't a fly-motif Digimon
>>135080564
>Tailmon
>Is more than just a tail
>>135080306
Is this porn or the Xros manga?
>>135080951
Neither. It's Digimon Next, Bandai's alternative Savers.
>>135080951
>digimon porn
>with shotas
I wish, it's the next manga
Did anyone ever make alternate subs for Tri? The official ones are garbage.
>>135081783
Nope. RyRo may put out subs next year.
>>135080812
>Gokumon
>isn't vulnerable to lasers
>>135078709
>spoonfeed as much as you want
>this is modern /a/
>>135067317
Man,you've never played Re;Digitize have you?
>>135056170
Is that angewomon? Isn't angewomon's final form a white wolf-dragon thing?
>>135064317
>Crimson Mode is in the game
Burst Mode is a go!
Hope The Veedramon line made it.
>>135082376
It's clearly different here. There's an actual Jogress mechanic in -next 0rder-. The trailer makes a big deal out of it. In fact, there's dialogue in the trailer that implies that the first Jogress is gonna take place in a cutscene or something.
>>135082428
Just because there's a new mechanic doesn't mean you need to go full retard and blindly wonder how Jogressed forms exist on their own. Especially when the new mechanic is basically just a glorified version of the Burst Evolution shit from Digimon World 3.
>>135082386
Holydramon is her ultimate form, but everyone wants it to be Ophanimon so they can jerk off to it.
>>135082386
It can also become Ophanimon which is pictured above in the OP. It's been out since late 2001.
>>135082535
>Implying you can't jerk off to holydramon
>>135082495
The two Digimon are clearly Jogressing together. That's gonna leave a spot open in your party. I'm just wondering where the new Digimon comes from. No need to be an asshole about it.
>>135082562
Hey, that's not what I'm saying man. You do you. It's just the majority of people who want Ophanimon are just in it for the fap material.
>>135082495
>Burst
BLAST evolution
>>135082573
> No need to be an asshole about it.
Fuck youThere is no new Digimon it's a temp jogress made from the power of anime Digimon flavored asspull
>>135082666
That doesn't seem to make much sense. Unless Omegamon is insanely powerful in this game, it doesn't make sense to limit it to a temporary state when you can apparently have a Susanoomon alongside Dukemon Crimson Mode, both on your team at once.
>>135082905
oh Anon. There's two kinds of jogressng in the game. The temporary battle kind and the out of battle permanent kind. In this case he's more than likely obtainable to both and not limited to one,because it's just a flashy gimmick.
>>135082558
>Ophanimon
>helmet has a lion, a bull and an eagle face, like a Cherub
>>135080306
I likeN a n o montoo but I don't think I want to be embraced too closely by it.
>>135083754
The wheels that replaced her shoulders are thrones/ophanim though.
Since the thrones are always following the movement of the cherubim above them, I find that a really neat design.
Makes Cherubimon's existence a tad pointless though, especially seeing how it has nothing in its design that hints at a cherub at all.
>>135084268
Ophanimon core, and ophanimon falldown also reference the seraphim (burning ones)
>>135085148
I'm not so certain it's a reference to the seraphim as much as it is a Fire Looks Cool situation, but to be fair I'm pretty certain the seraphim source was probably going for a Fire Looks Cool situation itself, so I guess it could be said like so.
>>135085415
So many digimon exist just to look cool
>>135080564
Tyrant Kabuterimon says he is the Lord of the Flies in his profile, he looks demonic and rules over bugs in an "Underforest"
He's also skinny as fuck but the Demon Lord of Gluttony.
>>135082573
There are evolution items t hat can evolve single Digimon. They're preorder bonus items too along with a few other things. The items were actually announced in the trailer but it was in moon runes.
>>135082535
>projection
>>135085415
I would imagine it is the inspiration for Falldown Mode, but maybe not Ofanimon Core. It was just a fire/ice motif, ChaosDukemon Core being ice. It matched Dianamon and Apollomon.
Falldown Mode is also based on Asmodeus, which is the Demon Lord Lilithmon represents. Lilithmon is obviously named for Lilith too.
>>135086589
To be honest, I don't think TyrantKabuterimon's a much better fit. Sure it's a bug, but it's not a giant fly so it still doesn't work.
Beelzebub's origin lie in the pagan deity Baal anyway, so if you're not gonna go with the fly motif, I guess what Beelzebumon ended up getting isn't too bad.
>>135086709
>Sure it's a bug, but it's not a giant fly so it still doesn't work.
What even is he supposed to be? He looks like a bug Megidramon instead of any real bug.
>>135086739
I dunno man. I think they got carried away with it myself. It's not much of a rhino beetle anymore, so calling it "Kabuterimon" seems kinda stupid. May as well have just made it its own thing.
>>135086739
I fucking hate TyrantKabuterimon's design. It looks like shit, and he doesn't even have a mighty horn.
>>135086801
I thought that he didn't have a horn at first too, but thing that looks like a big metal purple and silver jaw with teeth is actually a horn and canon, and his head is below it above the black part of the chest.
I think you can see it here.
It's kind of shit though. HeraclesKabuterimon is the best.
Does anyone know when we get more info about Tri? Like a trailer or something.
>>135086854
Thing is it doesn't really look like a Japanese rhinoceros beetle. You know, the thing Kabuterimon are named after.
>>135086854
Holy shit, could they make that any harder to see? You can't tell from his default picture.
>>135086896
I'm not arguing that.
The whole line is fucking weird.
>>135086926
The fuck is that?
>>135086959
It's supposed to be a swarm insect, they attack in swarms and cut enemies to ribbons.
>>135086959
BladeKuwagamon. Supposedly evolves into MetallifeKuwagamon, which then evolves into TyrantKabuterimon.
>>135086854
In the end, you can probably make a very strong case for TyrantKabuterimon being the strongest of all insect Digimon.
But insect Digimon in general are relatively low tier to begin with, so that's not really a massive feat.
>>135087256
Even stronger than TigerVespamon?
Frontier is the worst season.
>>135088596
TyrantKabuterimon can control all insect Digimon. Which sounds great on paper, but most insect Digimon are pretty mediocre.
Theoretically, this means it can control TigerVespamon too.
>>135088811
There's only one Queen, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.
>>135088885
TigerVespamon ain't a queen, if that's what you're getting at.
Oddly enough, TyrantKabuterimon makes heavy usage of "bee" themes for its moves, "Shine of Bee" and "Bee Cyclone". It even has a stinger.
>>135087256
>implying AncientBeatmon and BanchoStingmon aren't stronger
>>135089211
Those aren't even the strongest of their groups
>>135089211
Eh. Judging from Aldamon and Beowulfmon, the Warrior Ten weren't all that amazing individually. Pretty strong, sure, but it's not as if they were Holy Knight or God Man-tier.
And there's nothing that suggests that BanchoStingmon is that powerful. Since we know next to nothing about it. Then again, I suppose the same can be said about TyrantKabuterimon.
But considering it's, as far as I'm aware, the only insect Digimon covered head-to-toe in Chrome Digizoid and is powerful enough to control other insects, I'd say it's probably fairly strong. Definitely in the top percentage of insect Digimon, if not outright at the top.
But as I keep saying, insect Digimon are mostly kind of shit.
>>135089361
DaimyoKawagamon, SeigneurKabuterimon, and EmpressHymenomon when?
Is there an accurate Digimon classification power level tier list
>>135089973
no. That often copied list isn't correct.
>>135089973
Impossible. The powerlevels of digimon varies from setting to setting, so it is impossible to accurately tell how each digimon fares in an universal classification.
At best, we can tell who are the ones who at at the top due the sheer amount of power needed to create them such as in the case of Susanoomon and Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode
>>135089361
Fusion spirits are far weaker than the Ancient digimon.
>>135090302
>Susanoomon and Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode
And ShineGreymon Burst Mode since he is as strong as those two.
>>135090373
Everything in Frontier is weaker than normal save for the Royal Knights and Lucemon.
Is there any digimon that could bead DMO Raid Lucemon Satan mode?
>>135090394
He's just the evolution of an ultimate, that would put him on par with dukemon CM and omegamon
>>135091033
Yeah, Frontier mons are pretty weak. That's why they are always at the bottom of power levels charts.
>>135092012
>dukemon CM and omegamon
Both of which are as strong as Susanoomon. ShineGreymon Burst Mode is as strong as Susanoomon.
>>135092012
But Susanoomon isn't really all that strong. And Young Hunters made him and ShineGreymon equally strong.
>>135092012
Nope. ShineGreymon Burst Mode is far stronger. He easily defeated Belphegormon which should be as strong as Lucemon Satan mode.
>>135092365
>Susanoomon isn't really all that strong
Not sure if serious. Between Omegamon, Dukemon CM and Susanoomon, Omegamon is easily the weakest here. Shine Greymon burst mode is at most at Omegamon's level, which quite frankly is not even that bad.
>>135092394
>which should be as strong as Lucemon Satan mode.
What makes you say that?
>>135090302
We can use Young Hunters crossover episode actually.
That says Dukemon CM > Omegamon > Imperialdramon FM > ShineGreymon Burst Mode = Susanoomon = Dukemon = Magnamon > ShineGreymon > WarGreymon > Aldamon
>>135092477
This gif reminds me how great it is Digimon never went galactic scale in the digital world. It skipped that shit outright and just went with fucking Dimensions.
>>135092477
>Omegamon is easily the weakest here. Shine Greymon burst mode is at most at Omegamon's level,
No, ShineGreymon Burst Mode is as strong as Susanoomon which is as strong as Omegamon. But both are weaker than Dukemon CM
>>135092539
It has the most raw power of the demon lords.
>>135092625
And you based this on...?
>>135092477
Omegamon is actually stronger than either of them. But ShineGreymon BM is still as strong as Susanoomon.
>>135086635
Ophanimon is a symbolism whore
>>135092652
Lore and actual performance.
>>135092544
This. Young Hunters was bad with its own cast but it did give us a definitive answer to how the previous seasons leads stacked up to one another.
>>135092625
Dynasmon has the most raw power out of the Royal Knights, that doesn't make him the strongest. Mugendramon is the most powerful anyway.
>>135092658
Omegamon is close to/slightly above regular Dukemon, and CM is clearly a massive power upgrade. And quite frankly Omegamon has nowhere near the same feats or capability as Susanoomon.
Can a male tamer have a female partner digimon?
>>135092739
>Omegamon is close to/slightly above regular Dukemon,
Which is still stronger than Susanoomon.
Omegamon killed BelialVamdemon in one strike, Susanoomon couldn't kill a single VenomVamdemon.
>>135092739
Omegamon is clearly stronger than Susanoomon.
>>135092544
I can accept this.
>>135092888
What about jesmon?
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Jesmon
He is literally jesus
>>135092888
>>135092918
Wait, you're using the crossover as a comparison?Because that couldn't even keep from making blatantant continuity errors, let alone play favourites. Next you'll be claiming that imperialdramon fighter mode isn't a jobber that can't even make itself felt in the fight between Wargreymon and Black WarGreymon.
>>135092739
>And quite frankly Omegamon has nowhere near the same feats or capability as Susanoomon.
He does though. He is always just behind or on par with Alphamon as the two strongest Royal Knights. And Lucemon FM is about as strong as Dynasmon and Lordknightmon and Omegamon is far stronger than them together. And Susanoomon is on par with Lucemon FM so that concludes that Omegamon is stronger than Susanoomon.
>>135093036
It is still the only time those digumon were together in any way. And animation is canon so we have to accept it.
>>135093036
>Next you'll be claiming that imperialdramon fighter mode isn't a jobber that can't even make itself felt in the fight between Wargreymon and Black WarGreymon.
But he saved WarGreymon.
>>135093039
You know power levels don't translate across universes right?
Froniter!Lordknighton != Savers!LordKnighgtmon
Powerlevel discussions in digimon are silly because powerlevels depend entirely on the writer and need of in a series and can vary wildly, even in crossovers like the shitty one in hunters.
>>135093039
Omegamon may be on par with Alphamon, although not with alphamon Ouryuken. Lucemon FM is much stronger than Dynasmon and Lordknightmon working together, we can assume that Omegamon is stronger than each but both of them at the same time is streching it. Susanoomon is slightly above Lucemon FM, but Lucemon FM is rediculously strong so...
>>135093070
The problem is that Xros Wars specifically threw away any consistency in it's power levels since the very start, so it's very hard to use it for any comparisons (Stingmon, Arkadimon perfect, Lucemon itself, Huanglongmon, GranKuwagamon, etc).
>>135093150
>You know power levels don't translate across universes right?
>Froniter!Lordknighton != Savers!LordKnighgtmon
Actually they do Savers Lordknightmon is as stong as Frontier Lordknightmon. Burst Mode is just that powerful.
>>135093332
There's nothing supporting two different individuals from two different universes are going to be the same power levels.
We have plenty of examples of mon showing up being vastly stronger or weaker than when they show up in another series.
The LordKnighton in savers was a fucking giant for Pete's sake.
>>135093259
>Omegamon is stronger than each but both of them at the same time is streching it.
Not really. Omegamon is always very strong and capable and touted as superior to most Royal Knights save for Alphamon. So being as strong as both wouldn't be any stretch.
>>135093413
The royal knights are not implied to have that much difference in terms of powerlevels, other than magnamon being the weakest.
>>135093585
>magnamon being the weakest.
Sasuga Manletmon
>>135093036
It's still canon.
>>135093585
My general opinion is that the protagonist mon (Omegamon, Dukemon, UlforceVeedramon, Alphamon) are high tier, generic knights (Craniummon, LordKnightmon, Dynasmon, Sleipmon) are mid tier, Magnamon and Duftmon are low tier in terms of powerlevels.
Don't know where Examon and Gankoomon would stand and Jesmon would be the shittest who becomes the strongest since he's the newcomer and that's the general trope associated with them.
>>135093845
Just because it's canon to hunters doesn't mean it's canon to everything.
Assuming canon, the whole crossover was just a powerlevel wank, none of the characters were really in any trouble at all when fighting, so you can't say one was stronger than another, even if some out performed others.
>>135093994
>Just because it's canon to hunters doesn't mean it's canon to everything.
It is because it's those specific versions of those characters.
>>135093585
>other than magnamon being the weakest.
Well that figures
>>135094386
Ryu games had specific versions of characters are you saying they're canon
>>135093585
Oh, he really is counted as a royal knight.
>>135072426
Now I wonder where these two disappeared.
>>135092658
There is a reason why Susanoomon is nicknamed as The God of Destruction and Regeneration.
If the Digital World went full bonkers and no other way would work to fix the situation, Susanoomon simply removes the Digital World and recreates it with everyone living in there.
>>135095268
>If the Digital World went full bonkers and no other way would work to fix the situation, Susanoomon simply removes the Digital World and recreates it with everyone living in there.
That is what Omegamon did in X-evolution.
>>135095268
>believeing lore bullshit
Susanoomon is no stronger than a regular ultimate. Omegamon has display far superior power and combat abilitiy.
>>135095612
He literally used All Delete on Ygddrassil.
>>135095652
Just because Frontier was Digimon: Jobber Edition doesn't mean he's inferior.
IT WAS FRONTIER FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
>>135062683
My favorite OTP is TK and Kari as always.
>>135094977
...Yes?
Where the fuck did you get the idea he wasn't a Royal Knight?
>>135096206
>Just because Frontier was Digimon: Jobber Edition doesn't mean he's inferior.
Actually it does.
>>135093585
Why is magnamon even there. Might as well include gold rapidmon. It's ridiculous.
>>135096584
Anon probably expected something like the Three Musketeers and d'Artagnan.
>>135093585
> other than magnamon being the weakest.
Nowhere, in any canon piece of fiction featuring the RK as an existing group, implied this.
In fact, Cyber Sleuth outright says he has the strongest defense of any Royal Knight, even Craniunmon and his bullshit shield.
Please stop talking out of your ass. It's embarrasing when people follow headcanon power-levels as if they were fact and not subjective judgement.
>>135096584
I don't know. Guess I can only blame bad reading comprehension and/or wikimon. I think I saw it say he was a Holy Knight with the power of or greater than a Royal Knight, not that he was one.
>>135096670
Also, this, was absolutely thinking this.
>>135096817
>>135096670
>Anon probably expected something like the Three Musketeers and d'Artagnan.
That's literally Hackmon/Jesmon's gimmick.
>>135095170
RKD shows up from time to time. I got no clue where Gijinka anon went.
All this talk of Royal Knight power levels has me wondering where does Imperialdramon Paladin Mode rank in the grand scheme of things?
>>135097511
It ranks wherever the plot needs it to, just like every god damn digimon ever.
>>135092888
VenomVamdemon is actually STRONGER than BelialVamdemon.
But BelialVamdemon normally retains its intellect, which makes it much more dangerous than the wild beast VenomVamdemon.
In Young Hunters the BelialVamdemons were lobotomized, therefore resulted much weaker than the VenomVamdemons
On Lucemon FM:
in Frontier the Royal Knights spent their whole arc sending DigiCode to Lucemon.
What came out was a Lucemon overcharged with the DigiCode of the WHOLE WORLD.
Basically, he was X7SM-level. Which explains how he could explode moons by punching them.
Greater feat of strength shown in any series
>>135097511
logically, feat wise, or lore wise?
These are all different in digimon so >>135097623 this is 100% accurate.
I like looking logically he founded the royal knights. He's also on omnimon steroids from his sword he should be near the top of the pecking order as you can go
>>135097511
Higher raw-power than either Alphamon or Omegamon, but it's tied to the Omega Blade.
Relatively slow and unbalanced: without the Omega Blade loses much of his power, unlike Alphamon for whom the Ouryuken is a power-up for melee fights
>>135097141I sprained my wrist. Being unable to draw is suffering.
>>135098381
get well soon
also it's that time again
>>135098381
Tell me about it. Carpal tunnel syndrome is a bitch.
I hope you get well soon.
>>135097950
Logically is usually what I go for since the lore is crazy and outdated with Mugendramon being the strongest.
>>135098159
That is what I was thinking, more or less Paladin Mode should be one of the strongest Digimon to ever have existed with only stuff like Zeed Milleniummon being the same caliber.Really its in part because I am trying to peg where Armagemon stacks up.
>>135098381Don't force it, rest until its better to make sure its fully healed. You have done more than enough for these threads already.
>>135099214
ZeedMillenniumon CHEATS, though.
>>135098381
we now post fan art to make you feel better
>>135099405
It's not cheating when it works.
>>135092874
It occurs in a few things, but is rare. Might just be easier to have male-coded feminine looking one.
>>135057371
Is that fucking NEO?
>>135100265
Who?
>>135092544
Actually, according to the crossover special
Imperialdramon > Susanoomon = Shinegreymon BM > Masaru > Omegashoutmon > Omegamon = Dukemon CM
>>135100804
Masaru may be strong, but he can't kill anything with his fists alone.
>>135098381
One has fallen, another must rise.
>>135100804
>Susanoomon that high
>He didn't even kill anything
Dukemon technically had the highest kill count.
>>135100804
No it's:
Masaru > Imperialdramon FM > Dukemon CM > Omegamon > OmegaShoutmon > Shinegreymon BM = Susanoomon
>>135100804
Susanoomon was the weakest of n that special.
>>135100833
He's so insane he misspelled his name.
Sorry about that.
>Basically, he was X7SM-level.
X7SM is pretty much Code Crown+every single digimon that oppose DarknessBargamon. Hell, the Main reason DB lost is because Shoutmon took the Code Crown back from him and filled it with hope.
Basically, Code Crown is the win card in Xross Wars.
>>135100395
The guy that evolves into some red eyes
>>135101200
yeah, and Frontier LucemonFM was EVERYTHING except the main characters and three moons.
Also, thee is Manga X7SM: he was "just" all the present digimon. Still a lot, but much weaker.
>>135100804
>Susanoomon stronger than any of them
He was the weakest of them.
>>135101351
Only imperialdramon, shinegreymon BM and Susanoomon could do shit to venomvamdemon. The others could only handle belial vamdemon mooks
Who would MasaruDaimon evolve into or which Digimon would evolve into MasaruDaimon?
>>135101425
>He thinks Susanoomon is good when he couldn't even destroy a single enemy on his own in that entire crossover.
>>135101433
MasaruDaimon(Baby1)>MasaruDaimon(Baby2)>MasaruDaimon(child)>MasaruDaimon(Adult)>MasaruDaimon(Perfect)>MasaruDaimon(Ultimate)>MasaruDaimon Burst Mode>MasaruDaimon Saikyo Bancho Mode
>>135101433
>which Digimon would evolve into MasaruDaimon?
Takatomon
>>135101425
>Only imperialdramon, shinegreymon BM could handle venomvamdemon. Susanoomon couldn't do shit to venomvamdemon.
Fixed
>>135101433
MasaruDaimon stayed in the digital world and became a Royal Knight.
>we know Hackmon has an important role in Tri
>where there is Hackmon, there must be Gankoomon
>he appears in Tri as an ally to the heroes
>he has a Burst Mode
>it's shaped like a dragon with a spirit human floating above
>uses Digisoul Punch with the exact same light effect as Masaru, to a remix of Shooting Star
ITT: like 3 ShineGreymon fanboys
Looks like everyone forgot the #1 rule; Old digimon jobs, new digimon wins.
You cannot take into consideration anything from Xross since they don't take into consideration power levels themselves.
>>135102904
>Old digimon jobs, new digimon wins.
So ShineGreymon Burst Mode is stronger than Susanoomon then.
>>135103128
Obviously not, you seem to have one thick head.
>>135103416
By your rules ShineGreymon Burst Mode is a newer digimon and thus would win.
>>135103128
Obviously.
>>135102369
>>Only imperialdramon, shinegreymon BM could handle venomvamdemon. Susanoomon couldn't do shit to venomvamdemon.
But that's not true at all, did you even watch the episode
>>135102904
You can take the crossover special seriously though because it specifically uses the old protagonist versions of those characters.
>>135103521
Yes. ShineGreymon Burst Mode and Imperialdramon FM defeated the VenomVamdemon while Susanoomon couldn't do shit it one.
>>135103458
Holy shit, how dumb you should be? Imperialdramon FM isn't stonger than Omega and still it wasn't defeated by 2 shots from Armagemon because of muh plot and muh new season.
You shinegreymon fuccbois are truly cancer.
>>135103521
Your autism is showing.
>>135103579
He did the exact same thing Shinegreymon did.
Like the scenes literally mirrored each other.
>>135103630
I'm only going by your rules. And your rules say that because ShineGreymon Burst Mode is newer it is a stronger digimon than Susanoomon.
>>135103633
No, ShineGreymon actually pushed two VenomVamdemon into the one VenomVamdemon that Susanoomon wasn't doing shit to.
GARURUGREYMON
>>135098381
OUCH.
That's suffering on a whole new level.
Not as much as mehaving this dark feeling of guilt as I killed a carp for Christmas.
>>135103693
>jobbing means it's weak
Magna/Holy Angemon is not weak at all and still jobs endless amounts of times in the anime. If you go by my rules, then rule #2 ShineGreymon is shit and worst Greymon.
>>135103713
That's not what happened at all lol.
https://youtu.be/ir2BI7MuZyc?t=3m59s
Shinegreymon pushes one
Susanoomon pushes one
Imperialdramon pushes one
They all get pushed into each other
Imperialdramon blows them up.
They were shown to be using about the same amount of power
>>135070460
beast of evil that's the equivalent of Lucemon Chaos Mode
>>135103693
>>135103713
Don't bother with him. He's just a frontierfag upset that Savers was a much better show in every conceivable way.
>>135103769
>#2 ShineGreymon is shit and worst Greymon.
That is factually wrong. WarGreymon is shit and the worst Greymon.
>>135103784
Don't bother with him. He's just a hatefag upset that Susanoomon is the strongest leveled digimon
>>135103784
No. Imperialdramon and ShineGreymon push their's back. Susanoomon'sdoesn't budge.
>>135103955
I like savers more than frontier, but power levels doesn't make a show good. Given that Susanoomon was shown at a world destroying level, I'd be more willing to put him as general stronger than Shinegreymon who is generally multiple city level.
>>135103784
Masaru is still OP nerf him
>>135104012
>Susanoomon is the strongest leveled digimon
Omegamon, Dukemon CM, Alphamon, ShineGreymon BM, and Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode are all stronger than Susanoomon.
>>135104012
Susanoomon is about as big of a jobber as his entire season.
I have nothing against Frontier, but that doesn't change the fact that the Legendary 10 are a bunch of jobbers.
>>135104051
No, ShineGreymon BM is still stronger.
>>135104096
While Frontier had a lot of jobbing, I don't think you know what jobbing means.
Jobbing doesn't mean weak. It a term used when you're strong and lose to someone stronger to make them look stronger like it's your job.
>>135103769
MagnaAngemon is pretty weak, though, the only reason it defeated Piedmon was because it had a hax attack and Dark is weak to Holy
>>135104012
Susanoomon doesn't have any fucking feats to back up his shit. Even LordHolyAngemon has more feats than him.
ITT: Fuckers that don't know what jobbing means.
Jobbing means losing. If a Digimon didn't lose, then it isn't a jobber.
>>135104045
But he does move.
There's animation.
You can see it.
It's literally right there.
Jou x Meiko OTP.
>>135104270
>ITT: A fucker being delusional about their headcanons
ftfy
>>135104183
>>135104270
And Susanoomon jobbed in the crossover meaning that the other protagonist digimon are all stronger than it.
>>135104270
A jobber is a person that despite being OP as fuck and being capable of winning (at best) or at least keep up with their adversaries (at worst) lose brutally despite the fact that they have the capabilities to be a match in a fight.
>>135104374
The only delusional fucker around here is you.
>but muh nostalgia
>>135104488
like Piccolo
>>135104505
Show me the strongest Susanoomon feats. As I said, even fucking LordHolyAngemon from the manga has more feats than Susanoomon.
And no, Lucemon FM blowing up some small as shit planets isn't a real feat.
>>135104238
Susanoomon one shot Lucemon FM and killed Lucemon SM and only died to a sneak attack from Lucemon Larva, while still killing him.
Lucemon also showed much more destructive power than anything outside of Xros.
>>135104488
Except that isn't what the fuck it actually means, that's just your bullshit made up definition of it, to try justify your believe that certain mons would lose against others. Go fucking google jobbing.
>>135104505
My favorite season is Xros Wars, anon. And I'm not even counting it due to the overall lack of powerlevels.
But no matter what you say, it doesn't change the fact that when all the anime protagonists got together, Susanoomon/Aldamon or in effect, the poster boys of the Frontier season failed to get even a single kill. That in itself is enough of a workable comparison.
>>135104553
Indeed. Though later arcs did present adversaries that were quite powerful.
>>135104594
>destroying moons so small that the curve is visible from the distance 3 digimons are too, is a power feat
>>135104488
>>135104553
Jobbing is about making the other person look better. Gohan is an example of a jobber because he gets wrecked all the time despite being known as super strong.
Seraphimon is a jobber because whenever he loses it's to make whoever beat him seem like a big deal. Since everyone knows the Angemon line is suppose to be OP
It's a writing device
>>135104588
>And no, Lucemon FM blowing up some small as shit planets isn't a real feat.
>The exact thing that proves me wrong isn't allowed
>>135104712
Don't listen to him, it's a lost cause. Nothing will be better than his husbandomon.
>>135104657
Lucemon SM made an explosion 5 times the size of the digital world that Susanoomon survived.
>>135104752
>5 times
how the fuck do you know it's 5 times?
>>135104712
point is that feat is easy as cake for any other mega digimon worth its level (at least on the digital world)
>>135104684
To be fair, the Angemon line is a Holy Hand Grenade against evil Digimon like the Devimon line.
Still doesn't change the fact that they should still be effective against other Digimon that aren't more OP.
Angemon's line isn't OP, it just comes off that way when fighting demonic Digimon. Tri gave a good example of how strong Angemon is. All he did was hold his own against Kuwagamon, because they aren't demons.
We've been over this like a million times.
>>135104802
Alright it's probably bigger.
>>135104740
I'm not even talking about anyone else other than Lucemon. My husbando is Vikemon.
>>135104857
>>135104864
My point is that Seraphimon should be strong as fuck, but he loses all the time to make other people look strong. That makes him a jobber.
>>135104870
>the explosion radius is big as fuck so that means the attack is strong as fuck
nevermind the fact that it's demonstrated that small as fuck attacks are as effective as big as fuck attacks most of the time. Maybe you think MameTyramon is weaker than most ultimates.
>>135104948
This attack is literally millions of times bigger than the average attack, just at a minimum It's literally world destroying.
What attacks are world destroying in the usual canon?
Everyone knows that Omnimon is the strongest protag mon, now everyone fuck off.
>>135104999
world destroying =/= raw power
Seven Heavens is the top Holy type attack and it's seven small balls, stronger than Wave Motion Gun Final Elysion
>>135105023
Only cuz garurucannon is op.
>>135105111
>world destroying =/= raw power
Actually yeah it kind of is.
You have to have a minimum amount of power to destroy the world.
And that minimum is a really big number.
>Seven Heavens is the top Holy type attack and it's seven small balls, stronger than Wave Motion Gun Final Elysion
And Mugendramon is the strongest digimon.
>>135105111
>top holy type attack
Final Elysium probably tops it. Since, you know, Dukemon's stronger than Seraphimon. Also Omega Blade. And Shining V-Force. And generally any attack that comes from a Holy Knight.
>>135105023
>that annihilating of all Diaboromon clones that kicked Wargreymon/Garurumon ass with just one attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QlWbnSp2wE
>>135105205
Shining V-Force I accept it, but I would argue that it has more Draconic properties than Holy ones
>>135104916
Agreed here. Still it friggin bugs me that even the fandom agreed on Seraphimon being a jobber.
>>135105349
Attacks can have multiple types of properties. The fact that many of the Royal Knights are dragons doesn't diminish their "holy" traits.
Holy Knights are Holy Digimon and the highest form of net security. In terms of holy power, they're all superior to the Three Great Angels.
>>135105417
It's just a reality, doesn't really mean he's weak or anything.
>>135105417
Seraphimon used to be strong, but since then, many stronger Digimon have been introduced. The angels are no longer the almighty monsters that they used to be. As far as divine beings go, Holy Knights, Holy Beasts and God Man Digimon have come to outstrip them in terms of power.
I have always wondered how actually strong is Huanglongmon
I mean, we pretty much saw how strong Magnamon is, other than getting tired he was no selling all of Kimeramon attack so it was more of an attrition battle. And Magnamon defense is small time compared to Huanglongmon whose scales are fully fused with the ore that provides Chrome Digizoid
>>135105572
Huanglongmon's power is said to be comparable to God and Yggdrasil. It's the only Digimon that is hailed as a true "god" in any of the Digital Worlds.
>>135105572
Just imagine him a tier higher than 02/tamers Holy Beast.
>>135105620
Going into headcanon territory there. You have any source on that claim
>>135105635
Considering Magnamon isn't stronger than Chimeramon and the 4 holy beasts can fight with Dukemon, I'd say that they're stronger than Magnamon.
>>135105635
02 Azulongmon was a huge bitch, though
>Lol, I can't help, I'll leave everything into the hands of the idiot 02 kids instead of giving back the power to evolve into Omegamon to Taichi and Yamato
For that matter, why are the Holy Beasts so badly used on the Digimon media?
On the Digimon games they're fucking jobbers, on the digimon anime they're always leaving their work to the kids.
>>135102682
wish we had more official art on HeraklesKabuterimon X
>>135105759
you wut.
>fight
yeah, nah, the holy beasts would have absolutely trashed with Dukemon if it wasn't for the fact that Azulongmon is benevolent as fuck.
>>135102682
>>135105825
here's another one
Qinglongmon is believed to have power equal to Fanglongmon (but that has yet to be proven), who is considered a god. Fanglongmon easily rivals Yggdrasil or the D-Reaper in power.
>>135105812
don't forgot that the Dark Masters were somehow able to seal the Holy Beasts on Adventure 02
>small fries like Puppetmon and MetalSeadramon ever fucking able to seal Zhuqiaomon or Baihumon
>>135105812
or Dorbickmon monture being Huanglongmon, holy shit, I never saw a pokemon being so badly degraded even for Xros Wars standards
>>135106127
>pokemon
you wut m8
>>135105953
Fanglongmon is stated to be above all the holy beast, the fuck are you on. That's always been the case.
Yggdrasil is a completely different entity who controls the law of the world.
The holy beasts are directly below it by definition since they're entities that maintain order
>>135105858
They all fought on par with them.
>>135105953
But then again, it's also said that Ouryumon is equal to both Fanglongmon and Qinglongmon. I blame that on the fact that all three of them draw their lore from Chinese god dragons.
>>135105966
All that means is that the Adventure/02 Holy Beasts are weak. Or that the the Adventure version of the Dark Masters are much stronger than usual.
>>135106413
Source on that?
>>135106462
Dark Masters are stronger if you consider Mugendramon and what happened to him.
>>135106462
More like the series just underwent a heavy power creep.
Ultimates were a big deal when adventures started, now they're just expected.
>>135106545
Which is more of a reason for it to be dumb to compare powers across series.
>>135106579
Unless those series have a direct crossover.
>>135106647
Which was meant for fun rather than serious power level analysis.
>>135106690
Susanoomon still jobbed.
>>135106774
>Still doesn't know what jobbing is after having it explained multiple times in the thread
>>135106545
Week they also didn't exist before 02.
>>135106825
You are right, Susanoomon would need to be strong to job, but Susanoomon is just weak.
>>135106927
>Still doesn't know what jobbing is after all this explanation.
Whar are all the special groups in Digimon.
By that I mean stuff like:
Great Angels, Holy Beasts, Royal Knights, The BANTYO, etc...
Anything else categorized like that?
>>135107452
http://wikimon.net/Group
>>135107511
>http://wikimon.net/Group
Thanks!
I forgot about the Deva from Tamers.
>>135106927
He's not.
Frontier made him weak, but even then he actually did pull off a good fight.
>>135107536
The Deva are under the Four Holy Beasts.
And is the only group composed entirely of Perfects.
What is your partner's personality like?
>>135107607
There's no point in talking to that anon, they're just going to repeat the same things said earlier in the thread even though people gave proper rebuttals.
>>135107779
Yeah, people have priven Susanoomon is the weakest but some autist can't accept the truth.
>>135107759
Lovable, childlike, and a complete idiot
>>135107979
See
>>135104870
Susanoomon survived that then killed Lucemon SM.
Outside of Shoutmon, what digimon showcased a powerlevel comparable to a world destroyer.
>>135108068
Do you want that list in alphabetical order?
>>135107759
Prudent, cynical, but loyal.
>>135108068
>Outside of Shoutmon, what digimon showcased a powerlevel comparable to a world destroyer.
Pretty much half of the ultimates in existence.
Dukemon, Dukemon CM, Alphamon, Alphamon Ouryuken, Omegamon, ShineGreymon BM, UlforceVeeDramon, Dynasmon, Belphegormon, Mugendramon, VenomVamdemon, Imperialdramon DM/FM/PM, VictoryGreymon, ZeedGarurumon, MetalSeadramon, GigaSeadramon, Qinglongmon, Sukakumon just to name a few.
>>135108068
>what digimon showcased a powerlevel comparable to a world destroyer.
Does Mimi count?
>>135108324
Going to have to source that since I don't really recall any of them using attacks that literally destroys planets.
>>135107759
Justice incarnate
>>135108412
Yes. Best girl always counts.
>>135107759
Intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.
>>135108463
I'll choose her then.
God help anyone who allows Mimi to utilise her power level.
We've already seen it happen once.
So what's up with all this Omegamon pandering lately? Cyber Sleuth, tri. and now -next 0rder-.
Would you?
>>135109146
He's cool. Why not do some pandering?
Actually hyped to have him in the next game with that dual voice.
>>135107759
Fun loving, gentle and likes to protect the weak
>>135109207
Just feels like they're pushing Omegamon unusually hard lately, even though for so many years they kinda just used it as a tool to show off newer, "cooler" Digimon.
>>135109318
Gotta cash in on that Our War Game nostalgia now that Tri is out.
>>135105825
>>135105881
Thanks anons. Feel ashamed that I didn't manage to find those myself
>>135107511
How come Apollomon isn't a Big Death-Stars
>>135109658
It's one of the Olympos XII.
>>135109152
>10 year old
>make up
Disgusting.
>>135109697
Qinglongmon is in two groups.
>>135109802
Yeah well Apollomon isn't Qinglongmon.
I've redone this a bit since the first time I posted it
>>135107759
Genki
>>135109802
weren't both of those groups made over a decade ago though before groups became super common like they are now.
>>135109762
Who is that
>>135109980
sneeze grill
>>135109980
Was going for Meiko, but I hate glasses and fuck latex/leather.
I blame doa.
>>135109916
Hexagon template anon here.
I'm flattered that you redid that evolution line, but the latest version of my template is a work in progress, and you may want to wait a week for when I'll be done with it.
Just so everyone ITT knows.
>>135110292
I'll probably screw around with it again when you're done. Thanks for the info, and for constantly improving it.
>>135110202
crest of CUTE
>>135111228
No, it's the crest of BLACKED
whoops, that's for Mimi.
>>135110202
>>135110176
>>135110055
Thanks. I havent seen anything after tamers, which would you guys say is best after that?
Meiko is evil she'll get the crest of DARKNESS and needs to be purged in order to make a new world without Virus type digimon.
>>135111376
Meiko is the true heroine though. Her and Taichi will get married!!
>>135111500
Meiko isn't a human and Meikomon isn't a Digimon.
>>135057174
>jupitermon
havin shit in its line
over the line autist
>>135111294
Savers
best fights
best insert song
best second ED
best adults
best bancho
>>135111376
>world without Virus type digimon.
Please, no bully
>>135111971
Keramon is Unknown-type. You fine.
>>135111500
The new Takari!
>>135111376
>darkness
>inherently evil
>>135112091
Yeah. It's an abomination that shouldn't exist.
>>135111749
She is Oikawa's long lost daughter.
>>135111294
I only watched Frontier and it was meh. I couldn't get into savers hurr durr punch digimans thing.
>>135112091
I know, but I like viruses more than Vaccine or Data. I don't have a nervous Goburimonmy second favorite line.
>>135112161
>She is Oikawa's long lost daughter.
I would love for this to be true. It's just too funny.
>>135111376
>wanting a world without Ogremon and Wormmon
>>135092544
>>135092544
i dont get how susanoomon is that low, he destroyed satan and larva mode, even falldownmode was destroying planets like butter, and he came out just fine, lorewise susanoomon being a superultimate should be above those cunts, it is just that toei hate frontier
>>135112161
>She is Oikawa's long lost daughter.
I think Oikawa losing his wizard status is more unbelievable than anything that transpired in 02.
Would Takeru become the new Digimon Emperor if he could purge Darkness?
>>135112151
Don't say that about the cute little freak. He a good boy.
>>135112318
And Dukemon
>>135094386
what he said >>135094842
it's imposible to asume it's a full canon since ryo was there and fucking moonmilleniunmon didnt destroyed monodramons body to fight quartzmon who was playing with the dimensions
shit we doesnt even know to what world ryo came back since was decision of bagramon and not his, toei is full of shit and was shilling on xrosswars to make that shitwatchable and didnt cared about power levels and lore
>>135112491
>liking abominations
What are you, some kinda hipster cultist?
>>135112318
and Ladydevimon, Lilithmon, Mervamon, and all the other virus type waifumons
>>135112581
No one cares about that fag.
>>135112332
I don't know about that.
He wasn't that abnormal before Iori's dad died, aside from only having one friend. He went to college and had a normal job programming job. Maybe one night in college Iori's dad dragged him out, and things happened. Wouldn't be all that weird.
>>135112602
I love his whole line.And the Chosen started it.
>>135112755
>Implying they weren't in the right
>Implying destroying this chaotic abomination isn't the right thing to do
Sure, sure.
>>135112619
bull
>>135112755
Are you the guy who always posts the diablomon line for your partner? How do you feel about armagemon?
>>135104351
this shit gets me mad to this day, he cut a planet with that shit, cant kill a venomvamdemon
>>135112619
If I didn't sprain my wrist, I'd draw Dukemon making the Smug Archer face for the purpose of responding to you.
>>135112938
Dukemon has a face?
>>135112885
Not THE Keramon guy, but I am a massive fan of him as well. I used to love the Armaggemon design but now I definitely feel like its nowhere near as good as Diablomon
I'm the anon from a few weeks ago who promised I'd get through Frontier even if it killed me. I've had it on my backlog for two years. I just finished.
It's really shocking just how bad and repetitive it is. Not even the Royal Knights episodes, really the whole last fourth of the series. They spent the last two episodes trying to kill as much time as possible building up to Lucemons defeat with flashbacks to the last episode and more speeches and reflections only to rush through the epilogue to the point that it's not even animated. The character talk over still frames over what happened to them afterwards.
I would have liked to have seen Takuya celebrating his brothers birthday in full motion and in real time instead of a picture of it. That would have been fun.
That's what the last third of Frontier lacked; fun. After they reached the Rose Morning Star the show became about edginess and 'big battles' instead of the campy fun exploring-the-digital-world-and-getting-caught-up-in-whacky-adventures kind of deal that defined Adventure and later Xros Wars. There was no more charm or 'comfyness' after a while.
Endless and repetitive battles over and over again. Speeches about how we can never give up. Defeating the enemy and the enemy coming back to life so they can drag it out for another episode to two.
It's soul rending in a way that can't be properly described, only experienced. The word that literally kept coming to my mind was "nightmare". That's what it felt like to me.
Maybe it seemed especially bad because I marathoned it but that doesn't make it any less cringe-worthy. It's embarrassing to think this shit was on TV and thousands if not millions of kids watched it.
>>135112791
I remember that thread, I had to do a lot of backpedaling
>>135112802
He did nothing wrong, he was literally hours old. They beat up something with the mind of a child that was trying to avoid fighting, see the scene where Infermon destroys AtlurKabuterimon and MetalGreymon then proceeds to run instead of finishing the job. Keramon was a scared, cornered animal.
>>135112885
Yeah thats been me for like a year now. I prefer Diablomon as a design but I definitely love that he has a Super Ultimate form that is a giant spider monster kaiju that is a mix of Diablomon and Infermon. Armagemon is cool and I want to ride on his head.
>>135113018
Well we warned you. Frontier is the worst season and killed the franchise.
>>135113111
>Blah blah blah headcanon blah blah blah villain apologist blah blah blah
You sound like one of those idiotic fangirls who keeps gushing over an obvious villain and keep going on about how they're "misunderstood" while painting the protagonists black in a fit of blatant delusion.
>>135113238
Whoa there, god forbid anyone has a headcanon. Nothing he said is explicitly wrong. Why so agitated?
>>135113238
I speak the truth. He made no act of direct confrontation and when he communicated he spoke only in Hiragana showing he had the mind of a child. Even if you wanna dismiss what I say as fanwankery we have seen good Keramon line Digimon also, like the three Diablomon fighting against the D-Reaper.
>>135113302
I'm not agitated. I'm just calling it like I sees it.
>>135113313
Self-generated "truth" is not truth. You're just believing what you want to believe.
The only reason you're going to such lengths to defend it is because its design appeals to you. If it didn't, you wouldn't care. After all, I don't see you defending the D-Reaper, and the D-Reaper was essentially just a more extreme version of Diablomon.
>>135113018
>>135113125
But seriously, does anyone know why Frontier's production was such a mess and why it didn't seemed planned at all?
I've heard loads about the development of Tamers and 02 but not a peep about Frontier.
Did it have too many writers that it got confused like 02?
Was it even made by humans?
My theory is that it probably has something to do with how anime is made. 02 was being produced before Adventure was even made which lead to a trainwreck.
I think something similar happened except it ended up with too few plot ideas unlike 02 which had too many and had no room to brainstorm.
>>135113483
>Self-generated "truth" is not truth. You're just believing what you want to believe.
Disprove what I have said then
>The only reason you're going to such lengths to defend it is because its design appeals to you.
Its both
>After all, I don't see you defending the D-Reaper, and the D-Reaper was essentially just a more extreme version of Diablomon.
How? D-Reaper is an anti-virus/maintenance program gone mad, Keramon line is supposed to be the Y2K bug.
>>135113592
>before Adventure was even made
I meant before Adventure was finished
>>135113592
Digimon has always been filled with production issues, right from the start, so don't kid yourself. Not just Digimon, but many Toei original shows in general are plagued with this sort of shit. Kamen Rider and Precure both being prime examples.
Super Sentai gets hit with this less because it's even more formulaic than any of the others.
>>135113483
Truth is relative, and you're only counter arguing because the his argument made you react just as Keramon's design and actions made him react.
You're no different than him.
>>135113592
>02 was being produced before Adventure was even made which lead to a trainwreck
That isn't why it was a trainwreck, the director is why it was a trainwreck.
Seriously people who complain about Frontier to the extent of comparing it to 02 are being unfair/extreme. Viewership for Frontier was fairly consistent unlike 02 which slowly lost views the further away we got from Adventure timewise, it only was living off the reputation of Adventure. Frontier is fine, it just tried something brand new because Tokusatsu is popular with the youth of Japan, they wanted to try something new that didn't fully share the same market as Pokemon, and they wanted to try something new after 3 series with the same formula. If Toku doesn't suit your tastes then you likely won't like Frontier, but if you do enjoy Toku then its a fun but flawed show.
>>135113609
Both Keramon and the D-Reaper were only fulfilling their base instincts. The reason you're downplaying what Keramon was doing because the consequences of its actions weren't as readily apparent. Its rampant devouring of the internet would have eventually led to catastrophic results that could have completely crippled the human race, potentially resulting in countless deaths worldwide.
They were both effectively doing the same thing. The only real difference was the scale. One was limited to eating data while the other actually leaked out and was capable of eating humans directly. But both were ultimately fulfilling their base instincts.
>>135113719
I'm counter-arguing because his headcanon is stupid.
>>135113798
And his argument relied on his judgement that people thinking Keramon is evil is stupid. Just as your argument relies on thinking his idea is stupid.
>>135113795
Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those who hates Frontier because it's different. I actually love the spirit evolving and the characters a lot.
But at the end of the day the show devolves into an insulting disaster. I'd say the word 'wasted potential' fits well. It could have been so much better VERY easily.
>>135113798
The difference is Keramon was a child that was doing something it did not know was wrong. The D-Reaper was outdated and doing its purpose, it was not a rational individual its whole existence was just to delete everything and remove all life. That is a bit different from starting off as a hungry freshly hatched child which their first response was to kill it. Hell the kids in Tamers made an attempt to reason with D-Reaper and it rejected them because it was programmed to kill, the Adventure kids bungled everything and just attacked it since it was really their first mission with 0 guidance and being handled on their judgment alone.
Keramon was a Digimon while the D-Reaper was a maintenance program they forgot to shutdown, you are comparing sentient life to a murder program designed only to kill and evolved to overcome Digimon since they no longer were rudimentary concepts anymore.
>>135112993
>>135113935
It's okay, because I'm fully aware that his logic is stupider than mine. So it's all cool.
>>135113962
Both were digital entities with primitive thought processes who were only capable of mindlessly acting as instinct drove them.
If a bear attacks a human, and a person shoots it in retaliation, you don't normally blame the shooter. The bear was only acting on instinct, so it was technically an innocent, but it was still something that needed to be put down in order to preserve one more more human lives.
Not to mention, you could make the exact same argument about Keramon considering it was born from a cluster of viruses, which exist primarily to corrupt/destroy/alter/manipulate data.
>keramon a good boy he dindu nuffin
holy shit I can't believe I'm reading this
>>135113949
Fair enough, I do think the idea could have been better executed and theres several great episodes that clash greatly with the dips in quality it has. I think judged harshly its still a 6.5/10 which is still a solid score, but I could see how it can hurt when it could have been tweaked into a 8 or 9.
At least Kouji's arc and spirits was cool.
>>135113795
>Frontier is fine
No it's not. It's a fucking terrible boring show where nothing happens.
Anyone that says Frontier is anything more than piece of shit is fucking lying.
>>135113798
>capable of eating humans directly
Wasn't D-Reaper unable to digest organic things? I'm pretty sure that takes people off the menu.
>>135114142
Well, "eating" isn't the right term. More like it was trying to destroy literally everything. You don't need to devour humans to kill them after all. We're not the most resilient things around.
>>135113949
>I'd say the word 'wasted potential' fits well.
Frontier had no potential. All the characters are bland boring rippoffs of a single personality quirk of an Adventure cast member with no real care put into them. The plot is a long slow fetch quest with no real character development or struggle and plagued with jobbing for the sake of nothing and delaying the already slow plot.
>>135114074
Except your argument falls apart when Keramon was a DIGIMON. A type of creature shown capable of morality, reasoning, and learning. The chosen children did not make an attempt to do anything other than attack it, you are comparing it to a bear attacking a human but this is much more akin to the bear not interacting with anyone and eating out of the trash. Was it fair to shoot at the bear and agitate? Is it fair to then chase the bear with intent to kill when it postures aggressively but runs away afterwards? No shit he did what he did as Diablomon, it was cornered and despite more than one attempt at running away they chased him down to try and kill him.
No to make it worse make that bear instead into a feral child.
>>135114139
It has plenty of good moments but it likely wouldn't appeal to you if you don't enjoy Tokusatsu. I enjoyed it because I like Tokusatsu and I like Digimon and the good outweighed the bad, and the bad in the show is misguided more than anything. It isn't vomit inducing like 02 is, and anyone who claims it is is either a liar or literally has 0 understanding what they are talking about.
>>135114212
Exactly what I think except the Digimon and the music (even in the English dub this time around) were good.
>>135114307
>It isn't vomit inducing like 02 is,
No it's far worse. The amount of retardation and idiocy of the cast is really bad and the personalities are horrible compared to 02. At least the entire team was useful and felt like a team in 02.
>>135108458
But he's only after Taichi. You arn't fit to be it's tamer Anon.
>>135114402
>No it's far worse. The amount of retardation and idiocy of the cast is really bad and the personalities are horrible compared to 02. At least the entire team was useful and felt like a team in 02.
So you've never seen 02, gotcha
>>135114334
Good designs, and Frontier has none by the way, don't make a show or say a show has potential.
>>135114434
>the 02 kids feel like a team
>each jorgess pair has equal battles and importance
>characters, the few that do, have actual development
How is this worse than Frontier which had none of those things?
You clearly blocked 02 from your mind. Frontier was far worse than 02.
>>135114434
Pretty sure you have never seen 02.
>>135114434
>>135114402
Can we just stop arguing over weather shit or puke smells worse and agree that there's a lot of stink in Digimon?
>>135114535
>>135114561
But I agree, Frontier is worse
>>135114561
No and Frontier is clearly the worst. It killed the franchise.
>>135114535
>the 02 kids feel like a team
No they don't. Miyako does nothing, Iori doesn't exist, Daisuke does everything wrong but constantly gets patted on the back by the universe, Ken stops doing anything except be Daisuke's jogress partner once he joins the team, Takeru and Hikari are just kind of there, and the Adventure kids all just get shit on repeatedly to make the new kids look great.
>each jorgess pair has equal battles and importance
I think Shakkoumon shows up twice the whole show. When Imperialdramon shows up no one else does anything ever.
>characters, the few that do, have actual development
Absolutely no one develops, the few that do are from the old cast and in fact develop in ways that go against everything they did in Adventure. Literally one of the characters, Daisuke, was openly barred from experiencing ANY development.
You are talking out of your ass.
>>135114702
At least they pretend to be.
At least it's not the 'Takuya and Koiji Show'
>>135114216
Not all Digimon are that way. There are many varieties of Digimon, some that aren't capable of what you say they're capable of. Some don't even have free will, while others are "Digimon" in name only, like Death-X-mon.
Also, the Digimon and Gennai themselves go on for about thirty seconds about what kind of a threat it was. It's kind of a cop-out, but given the forty minute runtime of the film, I don't imagine they had much time to spare on exposition.
>>135114733
I rather 2 characters than no characters.
>>135114216
Digimon do not die if they are killed.
Killing it and nabbing its Digitama when it respawns is a perfectly legitimate action.
>>135114799
>no characters
Ken. He's not the greatest character ever written but is infinitely better developed and interesting than anyone in Frontier, including Koichi
>>135114702
You are the one talking out your ass.
The 02 kids did feel like a team wuth natural companionship and teamwork. Individually most of the cast was weaker than Adventure but worked well as a group. In Frontier every character was individually weak, jobbed heavily, and all but two cast members were always completely uselesd.
Shakkomon shows up as much as it needed to and was just as important and strong as Imperialdramon.
Ken, Iori, Takeru and Miyako(very little but still counts) all develop. Daisuke didn't but he was only one character compared to the entite cast of Frontier.
>>135114747
Yes but Keramon is a naturally occurring Digimon. All Gennai says is that Keramon is a known race but its an anomaly that can bring great danger due to what it is capable of, and warns extreme caution. The kids then decide to go in guns blazing and proceed to fuck everything up. Really a big reason why things went tits up was that Gennai didn't guide them and just kinda left it to the kids to handle, and it went as well as you would expect children disarming a bomb with 0 supervision or guidance would go.
Keramon's actions do not display hostility until Diablomon was sufficiently backed into a corner. Did they need to kill him by that point? Yes because he was a powerful, cornered animal lashing out. Was the situation avoidable? Possibly, and I would argue probably if not a definite yes.
Takeru is an asshole.
>>135114799
And look at that, 02 has two fairly good characters, Ken and Iori, who are far better developed and more interesting than anything Frontier failed to do.
>>135114986
It's all Hikari's fault.
>>135114438
The entire Aldamon line sans KaiserGreymon. Ranamon. Fairymon. MetalKabuterimon. Lucemon. Dynasmon.
>>135114986
>shitting on the kid that saved the whole team from Devimon, allowed Gabumon and Agumon evolve to mega, and btfo the edgelord Kaiser left and right
>>135114946
>The 02 kids did feel like a team wuth natural companionship and teamwork. Individually most of the cast was weaker than Adventure but worked well as a group.
No they didn't. Daisuke would constantly charge in without a plan, endanger everyone, and disregard any input from his team but things just always worked out. Not a single victory was earned in 02 they all were just given to the children. Say what you want about how useful they may have been at least the Frontier kids played off each other and helped one another develop from the shallow assholes they all started off as.
>Shakkomon shows up as much as it needed to
I can argue the same of the other children/spirits that didn't get much screentime in the end
>was just as important and strong as Imperialdramon
So you are just lying now?
>Ken, Iori, Takeru and Miyako
Ken stopped having a personality, that isn't much of a development
Iori did not develop, he just suddenly had a complex about his father shoehorned in which really didn't go anywhere and stayed exactly where it was to begin with
Takeru, the chosen of fucking hope, suddenly had a massive erection for killing Digimon just so he had some connection to Iori
Miyako literally is the exact same selfish cunt she started off as
Hexagon template anon here.
In case you don't already know, I have a casual interest in tabletop games, and have dreamed of writing a Digimon tabletop RPG for years, which is why I felt it worthwhile to put a space for stats in some versions of my template.
Most people don't care, but for those who do, I intend to make a template with even more detailed stats and a list of abilities.
What I want to know now is, how many stats would you tolerate? I'm looking at this from the perspective of a tabletop RPG, where any action your digimon could take involves a stat. Right now, I think Agility, Body, Mind and Spirit should cover everything, with Spirit being used by social skills as in Savage Worlds.
The Will stat derived from Spirit is a resource to limit abilities in combat, and the Mind stat should have some combat use but I haven't thought of it yet.
How can I make this better? I've looked at most of the Digimon video games, and the /tg/ homebrew obviously, and they don't all use the same set of stats.
Also, for those of you who played Cyber Sleuth, how do elemental weaknesses work in that?
>>135114980
>naturally occurring Digimon
It was formed from a cluster of viruses outside of the Digital World. That's almost as UNnatural as ZeedMillinniummon's ridiculous "I manipulated events in the past to facilitate my own birth by Jogressing two Digimon that were defeated at two different places at two different times" ploy.
Furthermore, Gennai actually told them that it was a problematic Digimon, and presumably HE was the one who told Agumon and the others that it needed to be put down, given then there should be no way for Agumon to know that Keramon is a "really bad Digimon", or for Tentomon to know that "it will be really bad if we leave him be".
You're pushing for the idea that it was an "innocent creature lashing out because it was attacked", but that particular conversation that took place immediately before they launched their assault actually implies that, no, it's probably just a monster that can only destroy.
>>135115097
>entire Aldamon line
No it's shit
>MetalKabuterimon.
Doesn't exist
>Lucemon. Dynasmon.
Made before Frontier
>>135115097
Are you saying KaiserGreymon isn't amazing?
>>135115009
Ken and who?
>>135115009
>Iori
>Character
>>135115189
>>MetalKabuterimon.
>Doesn't exist
It does in the english version
>>135115009
>Ken
Ken was a wacky cartoon character when he was the Kaiser, then when he was dethroned he became nothing
>Iori
Now I know this is bait
>>135115009
>Iori
That's literally all I can say about him.
>Good 02 designs
Stingmon
Paildramon
Imperialdramon DM
Digmon
>Good Frontier designs
Garmmon
Vritramon
Bolgmon
Ardhamon
KaiserLeomon
KaiserGreymon
LordKnightmon
Lucemon Falldown Mode
>>135115314
>Frontier Good Designs
What do you guys think of based Blackwargreymon?
>>135115314
>Garmmon
Shitty lego
>Vritramon
Bland
>Bolgmon
Shittt lego
>Ardhamon
Ugly
>KaiserLeomon
Shitty lego
>KaiserGreymon
Shitty lego
>LordKnightmon
Gay
>Lucemon Falldown Mode
Edgy shit
>>135115388
>recolor of best Greymon
Fucking awesome.
>>135115388
We have a superior alternative
>>135115314
Paildramon is an awful design, you also might be the first person to specifically defend Digmon. Personally all I like is Imperialdramon and Shurimon.
>>135115316
Explain if I am so wrong, because so far you have only talked out of your ass.I really should ignore your bait.
>>135115314
You are missing V-mon, XV-mon, Wormon, Fladramon, Lighdramon, Hawkmon, Aquilamon, Armadimon, Ankylomon, Shakkomon, Imperialdramon FM, BlackWarGreymon, Archnemon, Mummymon, BelialVamdemon and Qinglongmon.
>>135115525
>Aquilamon
It's a fucking bird with horns.
>>135115486
>Explain if I am so wrong,
I have
>because so far you have only talked out of your ass.
No that would be you.
>>135115369
>>135115416
Thanks for the (You)s
>>135115388
A waste of Hiyama's voice.
>>135115486
>>Paildramon is an awful design
Hip-mounted machineguns are never bad.
Neither is a bug made of drills.
>>135115525
Sorry, I'm not a furfag nor a barafag.
Thanks for the (You), though.
>>135115587
>Hip-mounted machineguns are never bad.
>Neither is a bug made of drills.
And the rest of the design is buttfuck awful.
>>135115587
Somehow I didn't realize that Digmon was a bug when I was younger
>>135115180
>It was formed from a cluster of viruses outside of the Digital World
That is only stated in lore shenanigans which shouldn't be taken seriously. Of course if you want to bring in lore then Keramon's lore 100% proves my point even though it conflicts with how evil they call Kuramon and Diablomon.
All Gennai said was that it was problematic, they misinterpreted that. Who is listening to Agumon or Tentomon? They are confirmed idiots. The only thing we heard from Gennai was that it is a problematic Digimon. This was a child and they made more attempts to speak to more intimidating Digimon beforehand, this time though they just attack. The chosen fucked up.
>>135115525
BelialVamdemon looks stupid as shit.
And in terms of design, Imperialdramon Fighter Mode is, like, the most boring out of all Digimon of that type. You know, Omegamon, Dukemon, Susanoomon, all that stuff. Imperialdramon FM is bland.
Dragon Mode's a much better design.
>>135115587
>Thanks for the (You)s
Implying only one person hates Frontier
>Sorry, I'm not a furfag nor a barafag.
So you are one of those faggots that wants every digimon to be a shitty human in shitty armor.
>>135115722
No on both accounts, but thanks for the extra (You), it'd be only natural if I gave you one in return, don't you think?
>>135115667
>Omegamon, Dukemon, Susanoomon, all that stuff. Imperialdramon FM is bland
Susanoomon is the bland one. It's a shitty chinese knockoff of Omegamon with none of the charm or personality to it.
>>135115663
1) Almost all Digimon profiles are written based on the Digimon's initial appearance. That's why Mugendramon is the "strongest Digimon", because in its debut in Digimon World, that's basically what it was. The Keramon line's profiles were written based on the background stories for Our War Game. That is why Diablomon's profile has the following:
>that ultimate goal is to hijack a military computer and try to destroy the Real World as well with a nuclear strike
Something that only happens in Our War Game.
Also, I'm more inclined to believe the characters in the actual movie than, well, you. Who had absolutely nothing to do with the movie whatsoever.
>>135115785
You really are retarded aren't you.
>>135115663
>That is only stated in lore shenanigans
Adventure Diablomon's egg was made up of computer bugs as stated in the movie itself by Koushiro.
>>135115314
>02
Halsemon
Lightdramon
Submarimon
Stingmon
Imperialdramon D/F M
>Frontier
All Takuya's mons except for the little Agnimon
Bolgmon
Blizzarmon
KaiserLeomon
Susanoomon
Ranamon
Shutumon
New thread
>>135115820
>>135115618
Shittiest Greymon. It doesn't even look like a Greymon.
Man I feel weird reading this thread
I like 02 until digimon Kaiser is defeated
&
I enjoy frontier until cherubimon is defeated.
After those points I feel like both seasons just died to me. Sure black war greymon was kinda cool as a kid, but it just doesn't work.
However, I also Like most of the digimon designs from both Seasons. There are only a few designs I acively despisein either series: Shakkoumon, The fucking double spirits, Kaiser Greymon, and Magna Garurumon.
I still like susanoomon since I always saw it as an omegamon power up/burst mode form
>>135115821
The lore of Keramon proves that he was innocent but misguided then
>>135115881
Yeah, in any other story, a character who thinks of destructive acts as "play" is usually the villain.
>>135115935
Except he was a CHILD. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree, there is really only enough evidence to infer what the truth is and we cannot say for sure. You have your theory, I have mine, I am okay with that.
>>135115486
Wait what was wrong with Digmon?
>>135115841
>All Takuya's mons except for the little Agnimon
The whole line is shit
>Bolgmon
Shitty lego
>Blizzarmon
Bland yeti
>KaiserLeomon
Shitty lego
>Susanoomon
Shitty Omegamon ripoff
>Ranamon
Shitty waifushit
>Shutumon
Shitty jobbing and bland
>>135115935
Funny how that works out. Maybe Diablomon would have been a swell guy if our pal Daisuke had been around.
>>135115987
It's not a theory. I'm literally re-iterating what was stated and written. You're the one going "Oh well, yeah, those characters SAID THAT, but they're retards so they're wrong because it doesn't fit in with my agenda".
Which, admittedly, is what I've been doing to you this whole time, so I'm fully aware of the hypocrisy, but, to be perfectly honest, I'm pretty okay with that.
>>135115855
>page 7
>not calling it bread
Troll harder
>>135116018
man, you're full of shit
>>135116092
No that would be Frontier and all of its designs.
>>135116064
Yes, but the difference between Ken and Keramon is that Ken is a human child and is somehow exempt from punishment for the hideous acts that he has perpetrated in his blatant ignorance.
Whereas in the real world, ignorance is usually not an excuse to get away with such crimes. I'd like to remind you that, even if he thought that Digimon were just game data or whatever, he did repeatedly try to murder five human kids while fully knowing that they were five human kids. But that's okay because he didn't know what he was doing and he had a change of heart! Thank God for that!
If here were a Digimon, he'd have died.
>>135092477
>Omegamon is a RK
>ShineGreymon BM can fight equally with RK's
>Susanomon is a jogress of two mons who were raped by RK's several times
Guess who is weaker
>>135116183
Yeah, but he was like team rocket he never got away with shit, and any digimon he killed just come back anyway. They even made him cry when he picked up wormmon from his digitama.
>>135116266
And thank God he feels bad about that! Now everything's okay and no one ever has to feel bad about anything ever again!
Again, if he were a Digimon, he would have died. Or at least gotten beaten half to death before he was allowed to turn into a good guy. Instead, he got off with a punch. Not saying he HAS to die... I'm just saying that if he were a Digimon, he probably would have died.
OR, if he were a human adult. Because unlike human children, human adults get killed all the time in Digimon.
>>135116008
He is okay, doesn't really stand out and is benign all around. Just never seen anyone defend him is all.
>>135116069
We can agree we are both being equally pigheaded then.
>>135116322
>Again, if he were a Digimon, he would have died.
Yeah, but here's the difference Digimon don't stay dead. They reincarnate as digitama, live happy lives, and totally never grow up to be evil again. That's a pretty big moral loop hole for the protagonists.
No argument on adults, they really do love killing them off in digimon. Though they did waste the energy to redeem Oikawa.
>>135116379
I'd say that I'm less pig-headed and more overtly malicious due to my sheer dislike for you and your hilariously fangirlish position. That's LIKE being pig-headed, but I think pig-heads are motivated more by ego than outright malice. Not saying there's no ego here, it's just overwhelmed by thinly-veiled disgust.
I am having nightmarish flashbacks to the days when I looked at fanfiction.net and saw hundreds of fanfics where they tried to paint obvious villains in positive lights. That's why I hate you.
>>135114986
I just hate what he became during 02.
Beating up Kaiser Ken was the peak of his character in there, though.
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