What is your favorite animation from 2015?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-12-16/10-moments-of-spectacular-animation-from-2015/.96584
>>134834272
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15820/
>ANN
Fuck off shill.
I love pirating anime.
Also Bakemono no Ko had the best sakuga of the year, but sakugafaggots are too lazy to get their asses off their chairs to go to a movie theater or film festival, so of course they have no idea.
>>134834272
Didn't know someone also making sakuga thread...
By the way, I made new pastebin :
http://pastebin.com/vt67pfc7
Ohira's cuts from Lupin >>134836158 is really good.
I still have to watch Miss Hokusai for Norio and Inoue.
Also, Kabaneri announcement supposed to be released today.
https://twitter.com/anime_kabaneri
I know WIT is dying, but I hope at least Araki can grab Imai.
Will kraker still do his yearly sakuga post?
>>134836462
Probably he will wait til Thunderbolt airing. That's the real robot sakuga this year.
Okada is killing robots...
Russian sakuga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtwdQrb_Bs
>>134836855
>babby's first 5 minutes googling of "animation russia"
>wow tamerlane u r such animation scholar
Kevin Cirugeda is my favourite ANN blogger.
>>134837334
>>134837405
Seriously, ANN needs to hire tamerlane.
kViN is nice but he's not nearly as good at writing as tammy.
>>134837675
All ANN writers need to literally die.
Then someone will have enough motivation to make a real site that's not shitty, maybe.
Hopefully not one of those 20-something cunts who are too lazy to watch animation that they can't pirate online.
>>134837675
Shut up tamerlane, you're a hack that does nothing but regurgitate pro opinions.
>>134837675
>tamerlane
God no
He has a stick so far up his ass when it comes to his opinions being right it would go through the other ANN writers and make them even worse
>>134837675
fuck off RIDO you are too obvious
>>134834272
>Talking about CGshit in a sakuga list
>Choosing OPM 1 over the sparring match in 5
>Fateshit
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
>No Concrete Revolutio
Shit list.
Can /a/ ever take sakuga thread seriously without taking every little bait ?
>>134837675
Also busterbeam.
I'm really not interested in reading articles on sakuga by anyone other than animators. I still haven't read anything better than Peter Chung's posts on the AniPages forum tbqh families.
>>134837888
Peter Chung is unfairly hated, he is capable of God Tier animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zsNcbPDyx0
>>134837886
Too autistic.
>>134837886
Busterbeam is one of the worst fucking posters on /m/.
>>134837888
>I'm really not interested in reading articles on sakuga by anyone other than animators
Buy Anime Style then.
>>134837862
The worst one IMO is the one that isn't even 2015, and Shirobako, the facial expressions are way too exaggerated and forced, why would you even consider that shit when you could pick any anime movie from 2015 and get something better?
Why does /a/'s reaction toward kViN's article are so negative ? It's just like how Vito grumbling about it on twitter. Is this just coincidence or...
>>134837980
Yeah, I know Japan has a pretty big scene for that and there are even more specialized lectures and theory books and shit.
>>134838056
/a/ has always hated ANN, nothing new. Vito is still a tool.
Not to mention the whole list thing is BuzzFeed-tier.
>>134838056
I prefer talking shit anonymously. I'm not a well respected attention whore who can go against the grain on twatter.
>>134837862
I wholeheartedly agree. Good to see someone with actually good taste.
>>134838019
Did you watch Shirobako? That scene wasn't forced, as the characters were literally overflowing with emotion there (and rightfully so).
>>134838210
the "subtle" (not really subtle) movements, the shimmering eyes etc. feel way too forced. It is exaggerated. It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.
Either way it looks pretty average (as do most the other clips anyway) compared to any 2015 film.
>>134838151
Best part is I'm not even a diehard sakugafag, only a mild one who can appreciate what makes a good scene.
I don't follow fake internet celebrities from the west, but is there a reason anyone reads that trash? The kind of people who'd read that article are probably serious about their hobby, and anyone who actually gives a shit about sakuga could see how full of shit the author is.
>>134837862
You're a retard and have no idea what you're talking about, end your life.
>>134838291
>feel way too forced.
Again, did you watch the show?
>It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.
When was the last time you saw an adult bawl their eyes out? I promise you there's nothing subtle about it. If you were talking about Zuka, I'd ask when was the last time you saw a VA deliver lines, as they get incredibly animated while speaking.
>>134838056
Because the sasuga """""community""""" is cancer and they are now nurturing this cancer by releasing the ANN articles.
>>134838485
Fuck off, ANNdevs.
>>134838542
Maybe once you grow up you'll learn to stop attacking the speaker and form your own arguments instead of writing "IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!"
>>134837726
>Then someone will have enough motivation to make a real site that's not shitty, maybe.
And then you will complain about that site if it doesn't follow your opinions
A never ending cycle
>>134838673
>opinions
People making money out of spreading lies and having the animoo knowledge of a 15 year old isn't an opinion, ANN writer #4.
>>134838291
>exaggeration is bad in animation
Neck yourself.
>>134838672
>"IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!"
>>134838291
>It is exaggerated. It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.
Are you trying to be funny or are you genuinely retarded?
Again, have you watched the fucking show, and have you seen an adult burst into tears recently? I can answer yes to both questions, I don't think you can.
>>134838772
To speak in your degenerate language, it is forced animation. Those extra movements don't convey anything. Pretend I attached the oregairu hand meme as an image, thank you. And don't forget keyframe spamming.
>>134838860
>forced animation
>>>/reddit/
>>134838860
>it is forced animation
7/10
Can we please not have this be a sakuga "community" thread and just be a regular sakuga thread?
>>134838860
>forced animation
Oh fuck off.
>>134839003
When you stop forcing ANN garbage and shilling the 20-something neckbeards who think they're experts on the subject, maybe.
KimiUso had at least two impressive sakuga episodes but fuck I don't remember if those aired in the first or the second cour.
>>134839086
I heard the production values were great and the director really tried their hardest.
Too bad the series is complete melodramatic garbage.
I really liked the 3D animation from both Etotama and Show By Rock!!
>>134839086
Shigatsu had impressive production values period, even if you didn't like the story you could at least enjoy the production.
>>134839133
Because "drama" about middle schoolers is fucking garbage
>>134837886
He's as bad as that famicom guy. The autist obsessed with tiny toons or whatever the hell it was.
>>134839056
Do you think I'm OP or something?
I'm not. I do think he's dumb for starting a sakuga thread with the link though.
Anyways, who here is excited for Thunderbolt? I can't wait to see Sunrise 1 in full force. I'm especially excited to see more of Hiroyoshi Takaya's cuts.
He's currently one of my favorite animators. He did what I think was the most well animated scene in Unicorn, and I found out that he did a lot of the better action scenes in G-reco.
isn't the shigatsu director doing that dumb loli anime this season?
>>134839243
Oh god you're right, I never bothered checking the staff of that show.
>>134839243
Why wasn't this uploaded to the booru yet?
>>134834272
One Punch Man, Kekkai Sensen, Concrete Revolutio
>>134839243
Jesus Christ!
Who watch this garbage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJQMydVfYU
>>134839346
how is this good in any way, shape or form?
>>134839175
I don't really understand why the author didn't make them high-schoolers instead, the fact they were in middle-school made the whole angst unrealistic as fuck.
>>134839474
2d4u
>>134839346
holy fuck that looks terrible
>>134839474
You just don't understand.
>>134839505
>realism
stop using this buzzword please
>>134838860
>forced animation
ANN please go and stay go
>>134839505
>>134839510
I'm talking in terms of animation
>>134839627
It's obviously ironic Anon.
>>134839346
>that 3 frame recycle while growing for 'running forward'
eww
>>134839175
Drama about middle schoolers who think they're adult philosophers is garbage.
It's like the mangaka has no grasp of how human interaction works.
>>134834272
>ANN
>Kvin
Fuck off
>>134837862
Yeah that list is fucking terrible I have no idea why the fuck the Shirobaka one is on there. It's a great scene but it's nothing special animation wise. There has been a lot of good Sakuga this year so that the fact that any show repeats on the list shows the guy that wrote it must not watch that much anime.
>>134839873
The Shirobako scene was really good, and the character animation helped frame it. I think what they were going for was with the list was including some scenes that weren't grand sweeping action shots.
That's a good thing, but doing repeats from Euphonium was fucking stupid.
>>134838317
I would hope no one actually reads ANN for anything other than major announcement confirmation. Every single one of their opinion pieces are trash and even worse their anime reviews.
>>134840068
I use them as a database for staff and VAs and nothing else.
I saw that they actually review individual episodes instead of just entire seasons of anime and realized it's just shitty clickbait like IGN.
>>134840028
I feel there are far too many good examples this year for it to be on a top 10 regardless of personal feelings during the scene. I don't find it all that impressive from strictly an animation standpoint, direction being another matter.
>>134839346
Thanks for the laugh.
>>134840223
I agree with you 100% on that. Directing, voice acting, animation and the lines themselves made that scene what it was. If you're looking at pure animation there were certainly more deserving scenes for a spot on a top 10 list.
>>134836601
>Okada is killing robots...
And revolutionizing sakuga as we know it.
>>134840677
The smiley face is just the best.
>>134840775
Isn't it?
>>134836601
What did he say about G-Reco?
F/S UBW had some of the most visually stunning animation I saw in an anime series! It puts even some anime movies to shame
>>134843016
Is this a quote from some retarded comments section or ironic shitposting?
>>134837886
>buster "i'm totally not a gator" beam
yeah no
>>134837862
>Choosing OPM 1 over the sparring match in 5
Ep 1 has far more sakuga than ep 5. That was the outsourced episode if I remember correctly, so that ep is pretty unremarkable outside of the sparring match.
>Fateshit
>being this much of a series hating faggot that you can't appreciate a good animator like Nozomu Abe's work
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
The boxing match didn't even have great animation. You'd seriously pick that over ep 1 with Yutapon?
>No Concrete Revolutio
Only thing you're definitely right about.
It's kinda funny how he pretends to care about animation and yet feature films are an afterthought (with no mention of the boy and the beast, that's just sad)
>>134834272
Haikyuu should be on there.
>>134843857
>Ep 1 has far more sakuga than ep 5.
They were going by scene, and that scene of episode 5 was far and away the best.
>blah blah Muh fateshit
Sorry, I had trouble seeing through the post production processing.
>Boxing match didn't have good animation
It had great animation and phenomenal choreography. It was a better action scene.
Would it be fair to call Yutapon a meme animator?
>>134838787
That bit was weird and random as shit.
>>134839603
S1 looked better than Movie 1st.
![[Vivid] Kekkai Sensen - 07 [9B9A5A48].webm](https://i.imgur.com/y3MeHKe.jpg "[Vivid] Kekkai Sensen - 07 [9B9A5A48].webm")
>>134844071
>They were going by scene, and that scene of episode 5 was far and away the best.
I can respect that opinion but I don't think ep 1 is a bad choice either. I really like Kameda's scenes from ep 1.
>Sorry, I had trouble seeing through the post production processing.
I see, you're one of those retards.
>It had great animation and phenomenal choreography. It was a better action scene.
This is a straight up lie though. You can't seriously think this shit is better than Leonardo's slow motion run.
>>134844314
>I see, you're one of those retards.
I see, you're one of those retards.
>>134844314
>but I don't think ep 1 is a bad choice either.
Episode 1 looked good, but the sparring match was godly, and was the correct choice for best cut.
>You're one of those
People with eyes?
>Leonardo's run
I thought it was ok. Didn't love it.
>>134834272
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-12-16/10-moments-of-spectacular-animation-from-2015/.96584
Precure, Fate, and that KyoAni lesbofest are the only ones that immerse me. the others are too sporadic and use those Naruto snapped Sasuke neck animation tricks to make a quick flow with only a few frames, and Shirobako looks fucking average
>>134844230
Yes. Yutapon is a gateway sakuga of the worst kind. It's bad animation, a clusterfuck of smears and cubes that isn't very well done in any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shaky cam and IMPACT FRAMES. The normal animation fan can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the animation itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
>>134834272
>Rolling Girls
That whole concert was godly. Best episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CujAo31sfMM
>>134837862
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
Do you have shit for brains?
>>134838125
Because everyone knows Buzzfeed invented lists.
>>134834272
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14945/animated-arifumi_imai-effects-fighting-liquid-shin
>>134838860
>forced animation
Will this cancer meme die someday?
>>134844739
No, just eyes that work.
>>134844483
Seems like you don't have eyes if you think that mediocre cut I posted from the boxing match is actually better than Yutapon's cut on ep 1. And Nozomu Abe's work on Fate was also fantastic. If you can't appreciate his key animation because of some post production processing than you really don't have eyes.
Is this the thread where we jerk off over twitter accounts?
>>134844905
ANN should hire me to write articles about Anitwitter drama.
>>134844956
Probably more interesting than half their current content.
>>134844314
How in this fucking world can someone say this scene is better than the fight between the split demon and Zapp?
>>134844863
Yeah, like a broken TV set.
>>134844895
>9 second cut from the boxing match
>Those disgusting CG effects
Where's the animation anon? Where's the fucking animation?
You're more concerned with listing animator names than actually looking at cuts. You're quite the tryhard.
>>134845228
Do you know what animation is?
>>134834272
Not a bad list, though I don't get how that Shirobako scene can be top 10 material. It's very generic anime acting.
>>134845477
Do you? That Fate scene was complete shit. "There may have been a few nice frames if you look underneath 10 layers of digital after effects" doesn't make it a good cut. The cut itself is still shit.
>>134845228
Nearly all of the effects in that sequence are hand-drawn, it's only the little particle effects that are CGI there.
>>134845228
>9 second cut from the boxing match
Woops I forgot the other decent looking 3 second cut. The rest of the boxing matches are complete shit with speedlines and other cheap animation techniques. The episode has some nice storyboards, but the animation itself is nothing impressive.
>Those disgusting CG effects
>Where's the animation anon? Where's the fucking animation?
You have to be pretending to be this retarded. If you think there's no animation in Nozomu Abe's cuts because of some added CG then you're blind.
>You're more concerned with listing animator names than actually looking at cuts
Not really. Just giving credit where credit is due. It's pretty retarded to discuss animation without knowing who the fuck animated it.
>absolute duo OP
>shitty smear animation
This list is bait, right?
I loved this scene
>>134845918
The author has a hard-on for smeary animation.
>>134845931
It's hard to choose which one is Nakamura's best work this year; that one or his fight scene in Concrete Revolutio ep 3.
>>134845918
>implying smears are inherently bad
>>134846053
They are if they're often noticeable.
>>134845728
>Let me cherry pick some more
Ok. Nice 3 additional seconds.
>If you think there's no animation in Nozomu Abe's cuts because of some added CG
There is no fucking animation anon. I don't care who did it, out looks like shit. Even if there were something there, it's buried under layers of horrible post production processing and the cut itself looks like complete shit.
>Not really.
Yes really. That's literally all you've done. "This cut is good because this person drew it." makes you an idiot. What you should be doing is looking for good cuts and saying "This person is good because they drew this cut." All you care about is tryhard name dropping.
>>134845728
>It's pretty retarded to discuss animation without knowing who the fuck animated it.
Stupidest post in the thread.
>>134846150
This small scene was also very nice
>>134843857
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
Which part of the boxing match impressed you?
>>134846053
Smear animation isn't meant to be noticeable during animation.
>>134846271
That's what boring realist animators would say.
![Sailor_Moon_025[v3].DVD(H264.AAC)[KAA][58B116FC].mkv_snapshot_07.50_[2015.11.27_06.42.09].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PIUjPqP.jpg "Sailor_Moon_025[v3].DVD(H264.AAC)[KAA][58B116FC].mkv_snapshot_07.50_[2015.11.27_06.42.09].jpg")
Smear demon
>>134834272
Kevin is a two-faced hack though. He spurs on discussion about sakuga while basically shitposting other people's taste in sakuga fandom through his shitty Twitter account. When he gets called out for it, he basically just side-steps the point.
>>134846150
>There is no fucking animation anon.
Learn what animation is.
>UBW and Hibikek
>>134834272
>OPM episode 1
>not the genos/saitama fight from episode whatever
ANN is shit.
>>134846310
That's an excuse shit animators would use, do some research before you pretend to know what you are talking about.I'll even give you a hint, Chuck Jones
How do I into sakuga? How can I distinguish each animator's work?
>>134837888
This. I don't even know why anyone would listen to kvin when he's just some random yuropoor sjw hypocrite from the interwebs without any real connection to the industry. If you're really interested in animation, go read the actual experts, not some braindead twitter e-celebs. Shilling for him and his ilk is literally /v/ tier.
>>134846500
Drone anitwitter
>>134846533
/thread
>>134846150
>>Let me cherry pick some more
Dude I'm trying to post the best shit from the episode. It's not a very well animated episode. Why don't you post this godly cut that I'm not posting then if I'm just cherrypicking.
>There is no fucking animation
Don't know why I'm even replying to you at this point. You've successfully hooked me into your bait. Congratulations.
>>134846227
How so? Knowing who animated a cut can tell you a lot about it. Animator's obviously have their own styles and certain techniques they like to use, and they probably have a preference in what they animate. Knowing who animated a cut can help you to recognize these things.
Nozumu Abe is know for his effects as clearly seen in the Fate cut I posted and typically works on action shows.
Ryouma Ebata who worked on the Absolute Duo OP has a strong focus on character acting, and seems to like using smears for his action sequences.
>>134846500
Watch enough anime and eventually you'll notice certain well-animated scenes with distinctive styles.
>>134846500
Watch a bunch of anime and browse the booru.
Avoid the sakuga community outside of these threads like the plague.
How do people judge anime animation? I'm not really sure, but subjectively, 2 of my favorite animation scenes this year are from CG anime, prisma ilya 3 and fafner exodus. Do I just have shit taste or not because usually when I notice 2d animation its becuase of how bad it looks?
>>134836462
Yes, along with the rest of the sakuga anitwitter people.
>>134846671
>Avoid the sakuga community outside of these threads like the plague
what's so wrong? It doesn't seem like a topic that attracs many people.
>>134846738
Maybe it's just me, but there's nothing I find more obnoxious than Twitter drama.
>>134846500
1. Go to sakugabooru.
2. Download a webm where the animator is verified.
3. Post the webm on /a/ and namedrop the animator to show your expertise.
>>134846681
Good animation is judged by many things, mostly for how believable a scene can be from our point of view. Character acting, movement, velocity, weight, gravity, tempo, those are thing you need to think about.
>>134846681
>my favorite animation scenes this year are from CG anime
>Do I just have shit taste?
That's a rhetorical question, right?
>>134846631
>tfw hironori tanaka was my gateway sakuga animator
Feels good man.
>>134846500
Watch anime, that's all there is. If you think a scen is cool look for it on the sakugabooru, if the animation is good than it'll most likely be posted.
There you'll see the name of the artist who got that scene, you'll eventually start recognizing them for their styles.
>>134846829
No I'm serious. For example, when ilya and co. were fighting the child gilgamesh who was completely CG he felt a lot more better animated than any fight in UBW, but that was just my opinion, maybe I am not watching anime right. Same way I watch 10-15 shows each season this year but no 2d animation moments stood out to me, when I notice something it's how cheap/trashy it looks.
>>134838860
>Pretend I attached the oregairu hand meme as an image
Are you saying that didn't perfectly capture the pretentious nature of the people that were talking? It was supposed to show that they looked up public talking 101 on youtube and don't know how to actually speak beyond spouting buzzwords and swinging their hands around.
>>134846925
>No I'm serious.
Well then the answer is Yes. Yes, you do have shit taste.
>>134846970
Why?
>>134846965
Doesn't stop the show from being absolute trash.
>>134847022
Anyone who prefers the soulless robotic CGI coming out of Japan over their 2D animation work is beyond hope and should be culled, is why.
>>134837958
God, this animation is creepy and uncanny.
>>134846333
>>134846533
Pretty much.
>>134847089
CGI is playing with digital puppets, nothing will ever top handdrawn 2d animation.
>>134847089
But that fits well for robot anime since they are actually robots and supposed to look mechanical. I prefer the animation with cool fights of Fafner Exodus to Gundam IBO which looks just as robotic and soulless but the gundam just flies around on the screen pointlessly.
KnK movie came out this year didn't it?
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=kyoukai_no_kanata+
>>134847201
KyoAni effects animation is so good.
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19132
No love for Ohira's Lupin the Third scene?
>>134847280
Ohira is shit m8.
>>134839603
More frames isn't always better. They have to be used right.
>>134847187
If you've seen some of the best of handdrawn mecha animation in action, for example from old Gundam OVA's, the modern run-off-the-mill CG shit completely pales in comparison. Unlike 2D mechs, the CG ones rarely if ever convey any weight and impact. It's a damn shame mech animation is a dying art and you are cheering on its demise.
>>134847318
Say that to my face IRL and see what happens faggot
>>134846836
>tfw Tanaka is past his prime
Late 2000s Tanaka was an animating machine, now his output has slowed considerably, not to mention they're not as good.
>>134847362
I watched through Gundam this year but not any of the OVA's, except 0080. 0080 looked nice but there's a lot of garbage going though all the tv series like that, sure some of them have a couple good scenes and there's 1 or 2 shows that were consistently good looking, but there's also so many scenes that are hard to follow and boring cause of stock footage and the mechs not having any weight, compared to that I think the studio orange stuff looks a lot better consistently. I don't see why it can't be sakuga just cause it's CG, if the stuff happening looks cool and not lazy.
>>134846681
You have shit taste for liking bad CGI. Prisma Illya's CG is horrendous. Go check out Cassette Girl from Animator Expo, now that's good anime CGI.
>>134847494
Because sakuga literally means hand drawn.
>>134834272
Shirobako shouldn't be in this. There should not be 2 Hibikek. Concrete should at least be in there.
So what exactly is post processing and why do people hate it exactly? If it looks good in the end, why complain?
>>134847481
>tfw we will never get good Tanaka hair again
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18625/animated-character_acting-effects-hair-hironori_ta
Feels bad man.
>>134847734
I agree with Shitrobako, KnK movie should be included as well, hell it has enough material to make it 10 times in that list.
>>134847746
Post processing lowers the fidelity of the hand drawn animation. The latter should never be obscured by ugly effects. Animals did fine without it before digital coloring, so why add it?
>>134847703
It is? Interesting to know. Now I won't make the mistake of thinking it only means nice or good/noticeable animation.
>>134847362
So how many recent handdrawn mecha that came out recently look as good as the ones back then? Cause IBO looks trash to average most if the time, and the only particular good instances are mostly stills with little motion.
>>134845931
Man Yutapon is such a meme nowadays.
I want him to go back to animating glorious stuff like the Stranger final fight. That was his style. His new shit just looks like... like fucking Bahi or something
So, was Rolling Girls worth watching in the end? I dropped it after episode 2.
>>134846603
>You've successfully hooked me into your bait
No you idiot, that cut is complete garbage filled with horrible post production filters and effects. You can say the animators name till you're blue in the face, but you're literally just namedropping instead of actually discussing animation. "He does effects so it's good! Ignore that the animation is shit and its all digital after effects!" You could not be any more of a tryhard.
>>134849156
This is the most non-argument in the thread.
Hand-drawn animation is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGqkI_8fLNg
>>134847494
>I don't see why it can't be sakuga just cause it's CG,
Stop posting.
>>134848281
>like fucking Bahi or something
He's got some recent stuff that suffers from that aimless flailing type movement, but he's still among the best. Everything Bahi draws looks like a wacky inflatable waving arm puppet. Don't compare him to Yutapon.
>>134844030
This.
>>134841754
G-Reco is Tomino wild ride, but much much better than what Okada writes for IBO.
>>134838019
>the facial expressions are way too exaggerated and forced
Stop reading there. What's with this "forced" meme ?
>>134838860
>forced animation
Literally and figuratively kill yourself
>>134838860
>forced animation
Is this some kind of new forced meme ?
>>134834272
God Eater episode 6.
>>134846500
http://pastebin.com/vt67pfc7
>>134845523
Its really good character acting though.
The way how Oi-chan move and covers her face is really natural and good. Not everyone can draw something like that.
Ohh I heard the word smears.
>>134849195
No, non-argument is "This cut was done by this animator so it HAS to be good." It's exactly the kind of armchair expert this post
>>134846811
is making fun of. Pretending to be knowledgeable without actually saying anything of substance is as non-argument as it gets.
>>134846681
>Do I just have shit taste
Very much so, yes.
>>134849910
So no actual argument ok then.
>>134834272
It seems like ANN thinks that adding a bunch of digital effects to a scene makes it sakuga.
>>134849942
>I like CGshit
>I only notice 2D animation that looks bad
You're shit taste incarnate. Literally nothing you say holds any weight. Go talk about how studio Orange makes the best mechs ever in a Comet Lucifer thread and stay out of every real animation thread you see.
>>134850021
Prisma Illya had the best action scenes this year though
It is possible to have CG sakuga. Just very rare.
>>134850001
What kind of anime that doesn't have digital effects nowadays ? And people like Fujii also called webgen animators because they work with digital.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3036538&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
ANNcrowds BTFO.
>>134839086
Damn I know it had some very well animated episodes but I can't remember shit about the show and I'm too lazy to look for these.
I do remember it having a surprisingly good schedule (for the most part), some episodes only had one KA/AD.
>>134850159
I'm not saying digital effects is bad or isn't used. I'm talking about the Hibike (at least the 1st one) and UBW scenes they have. Neither of them is really that impressive from an animation perspective. It's just smeared with some nice digital effects to make it visually attractive.
>>134850191
Which post were you trying to link to?
>>134850238
from kViN himself / Yuyucow. I'm not used with ANNforum, so I don't know how to link a single post (and seems it can't)
>>134849156
But it's not all digital after effects. Those cuts do have hand-drawn effects animation in them. I don't think they're particularly good, nor do they make up for the awful post-processing, but you can't deny that it's there.
>>134850219
>Neither of them is really that impressive from an animation perspective.
>>134850059
>best action scenes
If you're not a lolifag, loli on loli rape doesn't qualify as best action scene.
>>134850113
>It is possible to have CG sakuga.
It's really not though. Definitions aside, it all looks like shit.
>>134850159
>What kind of anime that doesn't have digital effects nowadays ?
All is done with digital coloring, but covering your scenes with digital after effects till you can't see anything underneath what looks like unicorn vomit doesn't make something a good scene.
>webgen animators
Webgen is just a tool that still makes use of the same skillset, and can produce beautiful animation.
>>134850219
Are you blind?
>>134834346
Otsuka said on Twitter that he is taking the Trigger staff to watch Force Awakens this weekend. What a bro.
>>134850328
The Peanuts movie looks wonderful.
>>134850219
As for Hibike, that's a bias since kViN is huge fan of KyoAni, but I agree that the post production in KyoAni is so good. (Though as you said, the character acting itself is typical KyoAni's animators, great but not something I called spectacular).
Well, for UBW....he said that he put it because it will make his opinion less bias (since he hates UBW).
And yes, Abe's effects is overkill.
>>134850305
>Those cuts do have hand-drawn effects animation in them
Yes, there are hand drawn frames underneath layers of digital effects, but those hand drawn frames aren't anything special, and even if they were you'd never be able to see it under all the garbage.
>I don't think they're particularly good, nor do they make up for the awful post-processing, but you can't deny that it's there.
That's my point. The animation is nothing special, but throw a bunch of shitty filters on it and then you have some idiots claiming it's one of the top 10 cuts of the year. I don't know if it's because they're stupid Fatefags, but they're out of their minds if they think it's a good sakuga cut.
>>134850390
>As for Hibike, that's a bias since kViN is huge fan of KyoAni
That just made me realize something. Hibike looked great and all, but why the fuck wasn't the new KnK movie on that last? Why weren't any movies on that list?
>>134850390
>>134850219
Yuyucow is a hypocrite tool that panders to the absolute crowd. Like when he selectively quoted the interview with the staff about Hibike to read as if they hadn't specifically said that Reina and Kumiko's relationship is just platonic.
>>134850449
absolute worst*
![51977d1d4864712d7f17ec404d8a2db9.mp4_snapshot_00.39_[2015.12.16_22.35.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TjrWR8F.jpg "51977d1d4864712d7f17ec404d8a2db9.mp4_snapshot_00.39_[2015.12.16_22.35.41].jpg")
>>134850395
>I don't know if it's because they're stupid Fatefags, but they're out of their minds if they think it's a good sakuga cut.
Are you fucking saying this isn't a good cut? Are YOU the one out of your mind?
>>134850449
He's a yurifag?
This thread is fucking cancer and I don't usually say that about much. All this name dropping people from twitter and discussing "internet sakuga celebrities" and their opinions does not belong on /a/. It is just as bad as /v/ with youtube reviewers.
>>134850328
>If you're not a lolifag, loli on loli rape doesn't qualify as best action scene.
Watch the fucking show.
I keep coming back to Prisma Herz ep 7's action I keep returning to this episode because of just how BRILLIANT every single second of it is and how freaking well directed it is. I mean from starting off with Bazett's entrance(I am sure that scene had more weighty movement and dynamic angles than anything this year) to the viewpoint switching to first person view as Chloe is about to broken-phantasm Exaclibur, or the blur effect on Chloe to signify the extent and brightness of the explosion.
Prisma is just FULL of inventive and very beautiful direction choices. I can't think of another 2015 episode to reach this level of greatness.
>>134850495
ASJW shill.
He also bitches about fanservice and complained about stuff like Me!Me!Me! or Robo on the Road.
can we talk about aers now
>>134850021
This episode looked cool (in my opinion senpai), and much better than anything in UBW.
>>134850490
>Posting a fucking jpg in an animation thread
>Caps for emphasis
>Fatefag
Fucking kill yourself.
>>134850539
>unremarkable .gif
>.gif
>Still using caps for emphasis
>Still being a stupid Fatefag who has no idea what makes good animation
You can stop now.
>>134850564
what does a little girl cartoonfag/pedo-in-denial have to do with sakuga?
>>134850596
Good post.
>>134850566
>This episode looked cool
The hand drawn character animation there looks pretty cool, yes. Those CG backgrounds and evil smoke/whatever effects look like shit.
>UBW
Not really setting a high bar there.
>>134850596
nice argument
>>134850596
>>134850596
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>134850596
>being this mad that you have shit taste in animation
>>134850497
This
>>134850652
Great. We got ANN, Twitter and /int/ all in one thread.
>>134850643
See I'm just judging the episode as a whole and it all looks good. The CG was a part of it, and I thought it was used well, made gil feel very intimidating and alien compared to the characters. Maybe the later episodes overused the CG but it wasn't that bad.
>>134850699
/tv/ is always here too, lurking.
>>134850596
if you can't comprehend how deep and elegant is UBW's animation you should just fuck off to >>>/co/ and keep discussing your shit cuts instead of coming here just to say a line of a meaningless effort to take down an entire fanbase that are not retards, like you are.
>>134850649
>Fate bait images
I love this meme.
>>134850653
>UBW has good animation
I love this meme even more.
>>134850734
Such obvious bait.
>>134850734
Fucking this
>>134850734
>if you can't comprehend how deep and elegant is UBW's animation
>>134850763
go back to reddit
>>134850734
>>134850755
>>134850793
>>134850796
>>134850810
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>134850716
Prisma Herz episode 7 is a fucking masterpiece of action animation, ignore that memeposting retard
>>134850845
>Alberto Barbosa
I don't understand. What is this meme about?
>>134850810
I mean as if you didn't give away the game with "deep and elegant" you then went on to redirect to another board that was completely unrelated and finally using sakuga terminology that someone who actually knew what they were talking about might use while espousing retarded opinions. Really try harder friend.
>>134850891
>>134850885
just a glib facsimile
https://twitter.com/gojooni/status/677063024990031872
https://twitter.com/mikita2ya/status/676387290357170176
Where is Kameda when we need source for #11 ? That madhouse website sure take a long time and bad choices.
>>134850868
Garo had good animation? I stopped watching after 4 episodes but it had some of the worst QUALITY out of any anime this season.
Why are these threads such shit-posting magnets?
>>134851036
Twitter "celebrities", ANN devs, armchair sakuga experts, CGfags, Fatefags spamming their shitty bait images.
When those guys aren't around, these threads are pretty great, though.
>>134851093
>people talking about animation they like in a sakuga thread is bad
>>134851119
>people talking about shit animation and CG in a sakuga thread isn't bad
>>134851183
But kyoani looks like shit and that's all you "real sakuga" fags ever talk about.
