What went so wrong?
He's become the new Yamcha of Dragon Ball.
>>134700418
Shittyama or Fuck Toei.
>>134700418
Character development not happening. That's what went wrong.
A Dragon Ball original anime didn't turn out well? Who could have possibly predicted this?
You'll never feel this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9OtJqog08
>>134700552
Might aswell post this too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmU9e67EfmI
>>134700418
toriyama dun even give fuck about his work anymore
he just want to milk until it die
Piccolo's expression conveys disappointment but still not out of expectations. That last pic tho hahaha.
>>134700519
It happened. Just not in the direction YOU GOHANFAGS wanted.
>"Goku isn't a planet buster"
>>134700739
>Goku is universe buster
>Goku planet durable
>Goku is faster than light
>Goku can breath in space
So hotshot you want to fight Majin Buu?
>>134700418
You gave a shit about Gohan. That's where you went wrong.
>>134700883
>he doesn't like Gohan
>>134700418
Toei removed his gains, at least in the movie he still had them.
>>134700922
>Liking Gohan
>Watching post Cell.
>>134700922
>he likes gohan
>>134700418
Mama's boy.
>>134700739
considering vegeta in the saiyan saga was a planet buster, what kind of retard says this?
>>134700836
...among other things
Who has the first eng subs up for this shit show?
When the next threat shows up someone should mention leaving Gohan at home because it's too dangerous.
>>134701296
I-is this allow?
>>134701265
The retards who keep pushing "B-but Goku never did it" even though he's far stronger than babby tier planet busters early in the series and then uses retarded boxing analogies that aren't even applicable
Then they proceed to furiously jack off to Saitama who only has powerscaling feats himself
>>134700739
>>134701265
Goku has busted how many planets and how many universes exactly?
>>134701793
Nice anon. Great. I thought the whole OPM discussion ended in the last thread already. You just had to bring it up because you forgot to take medication and just let your autism run wild.
>>134701793
>then uses retarded boxing analogies that aren't even applicable
It's not applicable because you say so?
>>134702124
He broke the moon in half in the opening to Budokai 2.
>>134700672
>tho
Kill yourself.
>>134700552
The moment were your shitty 14 years old self found his shonenshit outburst of rage epiphany self insert?
Sounds like a place no one should go back to.
>>134702191
>Budokai
>canon
>moon
It's like you're deliberately avoiding the topic.
>>134702231
It's not like it's any less canon than Dragon Ball Super or the movies. If we're including one source of non-canon bullshit we might as well include all of them.
>>134700418
Seriously though. What is Toriyama thinking? I know this will eventually lead to some asspull that would make Gohan redeem himself slightly but all this had just been so stupid and retarded lately.
>>134702142
It's not applicable because it's a shit analogy. Boxing ability does not equate to raw power.
Goku was matching Freeza at 100% power.
You're seriously fucking retarded.
>Some kid squishes a spider with his finger
>A grown man comes along and beats kid at arm wrestling
>"B-but we never see the man squishing a spider, that means he's not strong enough to do it..."
^That's literally how fucking stupid you sound
one punch man > goku
>>134702521
Saitama can't even stop a meteor from causing millions in property damage
>>134702727
Goku and co couldn't stop the total genocide of human race
Good thing there's dragon balls
>>134702970
Buu was a lot stronger than a meteor
I seriously hope that gohan gets a grip of himself after the freeza debacle and starts training again.
I mean, you could see that he himself feels ashamed of how weak he has become
>>134703069
The next arc is a tournament arc in which Goku and Vegeta have to assemble a team of 5 to fight the 5 strongest fighters from the next universe over.
Goku passes over Gohan,for Piccolo, because he doesn't think he has it in him anymore.
It's over. Let it go. Gohan is a family man now.
>Nice, new DBS thread, the other one went to shit
>Faggots continue their Saitama vs Goku powerlevel meme here
Rip thread
>>134703177
>dormant power
>gohan
didn't he get a boost like twice now? once from super kami guru on namek and the mystic upgrade from old supreme kai? he kicked some good ass even as an adult. all that can't be gone
>>134703177
I can't believe that goku just accepts that. he should just force him to train with him for a while. videl will understand she's not a bitch like chichi
>>134703223
Well DBZ fags are sensitive from getting shit on by toriyama and the constant milking of his franchise so anything that comes out new makes them super butthurt. The only way they can feel relevant anymore is to make powerlevel threads and shitpost.It still doesnt make DBZ relevant as it hasnt been for decades.
Just ignore it and move on. Powerlevels are dumb and there is no point in discussing them when the characters are LITERALLY in entire different universes and canon.
taking away from the gohan-bitching:
I thought that the animators do pretty well in regards of showing how powerful goku/vegeta/freeza etc are. in the second episode where vegeta went to vacation with his family and got angry - it looked cool how everything began to shake and break.
or the "how dare you touch my bulma" scene. you could see how fucking mad vegeta was.
and with todays show:
how they showed how fast and effortless vegeta defeated ginyu.
also freeza's transformation looked like there's some energy/force/power behind it.
>>134702372
>It's not applicable because it's a shit analogy.
Not really. Saying that Goku is capable of this just because the opponent he beat is capable of it doesn't necessarily follow, especially since it's a feat he has never done on his own.
>>134703223
Butthurt OPMfags keep coming to DB threads to spam. You know what to do when that happens.
>>134703502
>DBZ isn't relevant
>you're posting in a DBZ thread
>not relevant
>>134703177
Fuck Toriyama jesus christ
>>134703859
Existing =/= relevant.
The series is dead and everything about it is already discussed and already worked out. What your actually seeing now is Toriyama and company digging the corpse out of its grave and swinging it around like some kind of puppet to milk a little more cash out of it.
Its sad and needs to stop.
>>134703177
You know, I can't help but imagine that if Gohan was Vegeta's kid he would have grown up to be a much more powerful fighter than he is right now in Super.
Vegeta seems to give more of a shit about Gohan than his own kid anyway.
>>134700418
In 5 years his daughter will be a god. Stop being so upset.
>>134703654
I didn't even know they made bait this weak.
Come on, you can do better than this. Honestly, you can't possibly do any worse.
>Krillin is a 42 year old man
>Looks and sounds like a 12 year old
>>134703515
Agreed.
That zooming in and out of the side characters was unnecessary however.
Felt like they were going to pick one of them as the next target for execution after Piccolo died but it went nowhere.
>>134704019
Goku and Gohan are also adults and sound like old women (same VA).
Your point?
Surprised she can make Goku, Gohan and Goten sound so differently from one another at her age honestly.
So can Goku breathe in space now?
either one of two things is gonna happen
A) gohan will finally take this as a harsh lesson that being one of the strongest fighters he actually NEEDS to train not only for his family and friends, but for him to live his dream as a scholar
B) gohan decides to quit fighting entirely and will no longer intervene even when earth is in trouble (basically chiaotzu status)
I haven't even watched Dragonball Super or that new movie but fuck me all this shit I'm seeing about Gohan becoming the New Yamcha is really killing my childhood
In honor of that shitty Frieza transformation in this episode I'll post his manga transformations
>>134703942
Look at the fuck-up that is Trunks and say that again.
The best thing Goke and Vegeta ever did for their kids was dying and staying dead, and that was in a different timeline.
>>134704214
>>134704238
>>134704270
>>134704300
>>134704320
>>134704350
>>134704380
His last transformation isn't really in the manga since it just focuses everyone frantically flying around and Dende healing everyone.
>>134704218
If only Goku and Bulma hooked up.
>>134704408
>Gohanfags on suicide watch every Sunday now
>>134700418
He was never interested in fighting desu.
>>134704437
Sssh Gohanfags can't into characterization.
>>134700418
He felt under ChiChi's influence, he is not a fightar anymore, woman ruined everything once again. In the world where dragon ball hax exists and every his enemy can come back one day and be even stronger, this nigga just abandoned his way and let his father to do everything again for him. Such a disgrace for "proud saiyan race".
>>134704435
Don't worry, Gohan will stay at home and write a book on how not to be a loser from now on.
>>134702124
>>134702231
>>134703654
Goku is a good guy. He usually spends his time STOPPING people from blowing up planets/galaxies/universes.
Why would he go out and then do that very thing himself, just because he can?
Jesus, you people are retarded.
>>134704558
Pay them no mind, they're just salty that Goku is stronger than Saitama from OPM.
Snake Way was a million kilometers long and Goku ran it in six months on his first attempt. That means for six months he ran over a 1400 kilometers EVERY SINGLE DAY.
>>134701265
That was filler. Retard.
He stopped lifting, brah
>>134704464
>Becoming a pussy that can't protect his best friend/first mentor or his kid
>Anti-Gohanfags call this 'characterization'
>>134700418
Here's your answer, m8.
>>134701333
Well in the manga that sort of happens. :^)
>>134706257
Manga also has Piccolo as a fighter, and he's dead.
Also
>Piccolo actually died in this battle
>But he is going to be picked over Gohan who just needs to get his shit together.
?
This too>>134706635
![[a-s]_dragon_ball_z_-_229_-_vegetas_pride__rs2_[DF0F9598].mkv_snapshot_00.57_[2015.12.13_05.10.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t1Vt0yW.jpg "[a-s]_dragon_ball_z_-_229_-_vegetas_pride__rs2_[DF0F9598].mkv_snapshot_00.57_[2015.12.13_05.10.44].jpg")
I thought Number 18 couldn't sense Ki.
In the games he could go SSJ2 on top of his mystic form.
You can't maintain your strength if you don't train for too long. This is true of any athlete. Even the strongest man in the world will lose his standing if he just sits on his ass all tge time.
>>134706721
I have that card in jpn dokkan battle. Badass and strong. Fuck why doesn't he look like this in super
>>134706839
How strong? I only have English one unfortunately
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>>134706721
>>134706839
Because even though he supposedly had more potential than his dad he'll never surpass him.
>>134706945
Better than xancer trunks ssr.
>>134706970
Potential doesn't mean shit if you don't strive to reach it. All of Gohan's most significant powerups came from external sources. Guru, dead robot, Elder Kai. He's never done a goddamn thing on his own.
>>134703392
Yeah it fucking sucks right? Goku accepting his sons choices in life and letting him his live the way he wants instead of forcing him to be obsessed with fighting.. so fucking dumb!! We all know what a good true dad like Piccolo would do.
>>134707076
Spy on gohan having sex with videl
>>134707076
Piccolo is actively in his life VS Goku who is either training or finding ways to get out of work.
>>134706721
I never understood why he couldn't, Wasn't Super Saiyan just a ki multiplier basically?
>>134706970
Took them 7 years to surpass a child.
>>134707206
And for Vegeta he couldn't even do it without Babidi's power boost.
And Goku could become even stronger/ beat Fat Buu with SSJ3.
>>134707174
He would be too OP, anon.
>>134705086
That was in the manga you fucking retard
>>134707236
Yeah, however he wanted Gohan, Goten and Trunks to be Earth's heroes since he said he wouldn't be around forever.
>>134703006
saitama would have killed him with one punch
>>134707024
Does anyone else play that game?
>>134707346
If I knew what it was I'd probably consider it.
>>134707309
If Saitama can't annihilate a meteor he can't annihilate Buu
>>134707309
Like Boros right? Kek
>>134707401
DBZ Dokkan Battle. Some shitty mobile game.
>>134707174
the whole point of mystic was that it was supposed to be like ssj but just all the goddamned time. It unlocked his LATENT POTENTIAL to essentially make him ssj passively. but no one liked the idea so it was just ignored
>>134707413
Saitama can annihilate a planet. Laser can annihilate Goku.
>>134707436
Less shitty if you play the jpn version.
>>134707024
Bad quality image
>>134707547
Yeah I've heard the english one is particularly bad because the devs localizing it don't even know how to make it fucking function.
>>134707524
Why would Saitama hold back against the meteor?
>>134707627
Because he is stupid. And because this is a gag manga, and it was a funny moment when the meteor still destroyed the city.
>>134701296
Rule 63 Majin Buu is legitimately the miracle of the universe.
>>134707524
>Saitama can annihilate a planet.
Nice headcanon bruh.
>Laser can annihilate Goku.
Wrong.
Goku is Universe level and Saitama is below planet level.
>>134707908
Saitama is as strong as he has to be. Saitama > Goku :)
>>134700418
op and other anons still cannot fathom the fact that when you stop training, this is lift weights, running, or fighting or anything, you loose that strength or you can't just pick it back up from where you left off. this is what happens when you stop training. do yourselves a favor and stop your autism.
>>134707936
Nice headcanon bruh. Goku still wins, go back to your OPM thread.
>>134707936
Goku wouldn't have let the meteor destroy anything
>>134707980
AHA-AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>134707174
it still a transformation, just ssj and 3 are just multiples of ki and strength
>>134708012
>Image taken out of context
Nice argument bruh, Goku still win desu :)
>>134707236
vegeta already did get to ssj2, he needed more to beat goku that's why he did it. it was in the manga.
>>134708042
OHOHOOHOHHOHOHOHOH
>>134700418
Making everyone besides goku and vegeta useless.
>>134708080
Nah, he couldn't reach ssj2. He was in shock that Goku reached SSJ2 when he saw it during the Yakon fight. And to top it all off, Goku was lying about them being even.
He was able to go SSJ2 after he died when he was brought back to Earth after Gohan got absorbed.
>>134707270
I need to know where and when this happens, now!
>>134708350
Yes he could, he was already able to go SSJ2 by the time the Yakon fight happened. Read the manga faggot.
>>134708400
Dragon Ball Heroes, same place all the other bullshit/cool stuff happens.
>>134708435
The terribly scanlated bad quality ESL version? I shiggy diggy doo da. I at least can mostly understand moonspeak from the many years of watching animus. Unless you're saying Toei's rendition is not faithful enough.
>>134707174
Gohan's body is way too weak now because he stopped training it, meaning it cannot take Gohan's ki. Remember when Goku was using Kaioken? That is basically the same principle.
Gohan could only manage the burden of the SSJ1 transformation.
>xXx.DarkSaiyanPrince.xXx killed based Ginyu
This is worse than 1000 dead Gohans t(o)b(e)honest
>>134708581
Ginyu should have at least tried a body swap with Vegeta.
>>134708555
I know that's the case now, I just meant when I was younger. I never realized his Mystic form as a transformation itself and figured he could boos his power further going Super Saiyan on top of it.
![[a-s]_dragon_ball_z_-_245_-_super_saiyan_3!__rs2_[D24579F3].mkv_snapshot_09.07_[2015.12.13_07.04.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9JCisT9.jpg "[a-s]_dragon_ball_z_-_245_-_super_saiyan_3!__rs2_[D24579F3].mkv_snapshot_09.07_[2015.12.13_07.04.35].jpg")
It's ridiculous how down-played SSJ3 is even though they could sense his Ki from the far reaches of the universe.
>>134709262
Because Toriyama doesn't like SSJ3.
>>134704633
A character with a concept of limits is not stronger than a gag manga character.
>>134709718
Being a gag manga character isn't enough to beat Goku. He was strong enough to break a manga panel when he was just a kid.
>>134702727
Vegeta had troubles with meteors himself, if you remember the story of how he became a superior sayin.
>>134709877
Man I miss early Toriyama art, back when he actually tried
>>134709718
Nah feats show who is stronger and Goku's feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Saitama's feats.
>>134710056
Nope, concept is whats important, not feats. That's why Fairy Tail's characters are some of the strongest in anime.
>>134710028
kek
>>134710093
Why is gohan such a cuc.k
>>134710092
>That's why Fairy Tail's characters are some of the strongest in anime
Well, this is bait.
>>134709997
All of pages where Toriyama tried were great, and he clearly tried on most of them. He just got a little lazy during the middle of the Buu Saga.
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