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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4A_Chapter_13
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4A_Chapter_14
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Kimitoasamade_1A_Chapter_1

Tsirhcmas soon, more to read.
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>>134504112
Kimitoasamade chapters are quite long.
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Fuwa confirmed for piss-girl.
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>If she does not know what VHS is, I will have to have S with her V in a very H way. In fact, the cabinet meeting in my head is about to vote on the matter. No objections! Thank you. Thank you, VHS.

Holy shit, how did this pun translate so perfectly?
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>>134505801
Why?
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>>134506242
What kind of brain makes this stuff up?
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Will we ever get that last volume of OnC?
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>>134506328
DC? That was already translated.
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>>134506361
Oh shit, you werent fucking with me. Is it just the preface and interlude though?
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>>134506406
DC is just that, stuff that was cut from OnC 7.
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>>134506594
Yea, upon looking at it, its long as fuck so thats good. Thanks.
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>>134506242
Js06 is a master of translating puns
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>>134506243
>Narimasa saw Fuwa look up at him with a bitter smile from about a dozen meters away.
>“Eh?”
>She frantically began stirring up the snow around her.
>“I-I’ll head back later! You go on ahead! Yeah, you do that!”
>“Don’t tell me you pissed yourself…”
>“Why would you actually say it!? You’re awful!”
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>>134507212
Poor Fuwa.
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Those turned out better than expected.
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>>134507773
That's cool.
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>>134507773
Lovely.
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>“Oh, so you’re still using that old-fashioned speech style, are you? It sounds pretty authentic, unlike Tenzou’s.”
>“Tenzou…”
>Oh, she must mean that ninja, realized Futayo.
>He was always hiding his presence, so she sometimes viewed him simply as a moving part of the background.
>…Mary-sama does well to actually perceive him.
>Having a spirit-user’s sight and having him interact with her may help there, she thought. But it must be my inexperience preventing me from perceiving him, she also thought.

I don't think that has anything to do with hiding his presence. Poor Tenzou.
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js06 in Owari 3B chapter 22 around halfway through when the automaton is describing why singing is good for their work this line appears.

>You want your turn to come more quickly and you want to more quickly and precisely perform the work.”

The problem is the "to more quickly" is either missing a verb or more could be move. Can I ask you to look over the original?
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>>134508209
The line seems fine to me.
It could be written as
>you want to perform the work more quickly and more precisely
instead, but it's the same meaning.
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>>134508209
Nothing is wrong with that line.
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>>134507773
>SC
>tfw you will never be a mechanical dragon pilot
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>Narimasa took a breath and looked forward where Katsuie was lowering Oichi to the snow.
>He was worried about that, but her stance had returned to normal.
>She had her forehead pressed to Katsuie’s chest and she slowly raised her head and spoke.
>“Katsuie?”
>She smiled with her eyebrows a little lowered.
>“Can my happiness continue for a little while longer?”
>“It can.” Katsuie nodded. “It can continue for lots, lots longer. After all, we’re newlyweds, aren’t we? If you look at the time period.”
>“Are we? Ha ha. I think maybe too much has happened for that to count anymore. Like our visit to those historic M.H.R.R. sites.”
>“Yeah, your lunches were so good…”
>“Then I’ll make more for you. …If you ever get tired of them, please tell me. And if you ever get tired of being with me…”
>Then…
>“My happiness will be over, so please kill me.”
>“I will. I definitely will. After all, you aren’t going to find anyone in the world but me that can kill you. …That’s what I swore back at Asai!”
>“Ha ha. You could have killed me back then, but you were nice and you could still move even after being skewered thirty times. You caught me off guard when you hit me with that counterattack…”
>Oichi sighed and loosened her scarf.
>This revealed the scar from having her neck cut about halfway through. She gently stroked the mark from a nearly fatal wound and she narrowed her eyes.
>“…How lovely.”
>After all…
>“You marked me with the proof that you can kill me. It’s so lovely.”

Lovely indeed.
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>>134508580
Still more sane than Francis Drake and his waifu.
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>>134508332
>>134508351
I think my ability to understand english is degrading. Which is weird since it's the only language I know. Does this from the newly translated chapter 14 sound normal to you too?

>But even as a fake, it was exactly like the real one exact for the main device.

The "exact for the main device" part sounds weird to me but I don't trust myself with it.
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>>134509225
Yeah, that "exact" should probably be "except".

>Aoi-mama calls Margot Go-chan
Too cute.
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>>134509225
Should be except, just a typo.
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>kimitoasamade translations
I love those soft looking covers.
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>“No, it was with the Tachibana couple. The three of us have been having sex a lot lately.”

I'm shocked that this gag appeared again.
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I miss OnC...
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>>134510799
>inb4 it stops being a joke
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>>134511193
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>134504112
I have these downloaded and on my tablet, but I am far to imtimidated by the sheer size to get started. I am a bad whore. What do?
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>>134506286
The kind of brain you don't have
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>>134511603
Easy.

Just read.
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>>134511603
Read a few chapters a day, you'll catch up in a few months. And you won't lose more than 20 minutes per day.
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Damn, and I`m only finishing 3C.

FUCKING ODA FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>134511603
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>>134512039
Hey, monkey girl actually explains their actions pretty well. This is basically like the Concept War and Team Leviathan again, just that the necessary evil this time are the antagonists.

Actually, OnC and Horizon are kind of reversed in some way.
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>>134507773
>headphones
>SC

Zeroblade is that you.
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>>134512264
Who?
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>>134512369
>Zeroblade
>Who?

Time sure flies...
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>>134512405
I'm sorry anon
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>>134512733
Sorry, I`m just in hard oldfag mode after System Shock 3 announcement.
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>>134512264
That desk is too clean to be Zeroblade.
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>>134505801
Hanbei when.
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I have the volumes downloaded and the anime. but I am impressed by the exposition and all the names. I plan to watch an episode then read the book version until the end. Is there some kind of list somewhere which lists how many chapters got adapted each episode?
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>>134511603
I tempered myself a little by reading half the book, watching the anime again, finishing the book. On Book 3 now so slowing somewhat but they're pretty good once you get into them.
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>>134514772
Just watch the first season and read 1-A and 1-B afterward.
And then the same for the second season.
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>>134514772
Not that I know of but I can tell you that for season 1 episode 1-5 are 1A with the rest being 1B and ending with snippets of chapter 1 and 2 of 2A
Season 2 episodes 1-4 are the rest of 2A and the rest of it is 2B
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>>134514772
S1 goes more or less at a 2 or 3 chapters for 1 episode, depending on the lenght. S2 is far more fast paced.
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I was skimming the glossary of Girls Talk and something occured to me.

>Ether Engine: An engine that uses ether’s space-altering ability. The effect changes based on the internal crest.
This is the same way the engine of the ship in Panzerpolis works, isn't it? Coupled with 3rd-Gears evolving living machinery.>>134515374
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>>134516248
Didn't mean to quote that post.
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>>134516248
Yeah, what you see in CITY is basically the same stuff as in other eras but with new names.
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>>134514772
>>134515275

One of the key differences here is simply the length of each volume. The S2 adaptation is much more compressed simply because 2-A and 2-B are so much longer.
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>>134517092
It really reminds me of that moment where we realized that the thing only Low-Gear had was in the glossary for Horizon all along.

It's moments like this that really make you realize what a great worldbuilder Kawakami is.
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While rereading Horizon 1-A, I saw this gem in Chapter 13:

>“Well, the Atsuta style specializes in battle.”

And maybe in incomprehensible singing, too.
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>>134514772
The episode titles directly match up with chapter titles so you can just follow that as a guide.

Some things are out of order in the anime compared to the books though(ex:azuma is introduced in ch.4 of the books and ep 3 of the anime, but ep 2 ends with chapter 8). I would think that's probably only an issue for the first three eps though.
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>>134507157
>“That’s right, Mitotsudaira. They’ll use a Shinto grater to slice that adorable little thing to pieces and offer it up to their god, butt-first! Then they’ll throw it in a blender to truly puree-fy it!”
Damn right.
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>>134517356
2-A mentions a "Song of Atsuta purification".
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>>134512207

Fitting, considering how "tes" and "jud" are swapped too.
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>>134519086
Yes, the Army emotion standpoint parallels pretty well with Musashi.
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>>134519332
Except Musashi has actual sovereignity and self-determination of people as basis behind its convictions.
Kawakami has clearly been reading state theory.
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>>134519543
Well, he said he had to study a lot before starting with Horizon for a reason.
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>>134519543
>>134519747

Ironically, a lot of the principles of sovereignty and the ways in which states are run in Horizon parallel the actual geopolitical system that descends from the Peace of Westphalia.

>The principle of the sovereignty of states and the fundamental right of political self determination
>The principle of legal equality between states
>The principle of non-intervention of one state in the internal affairs of another state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty

One of the fun things about Kawakami is that he writes all of his countries as entities that rationally act in their self-interest. It's what makes all the negotiation possible!
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>>134520038
That's really interesting.
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><Instructions: Spin, spin, spin~>

>What is this? she wondered, but when she remembered it was an IZUMO product, she ignored it.

>She wrapped just her right hand’s fingers around the handle and turned it three times. On the final turn, she felt something like a screw coming out. At the very end, she felt something strongly fit into place.

>And…

><Instructions: Push it in with a mother’s gentle touch.>

>Mitotsudaira thought with a smile and finally slowly pushed it in.

><Instructions: Wrong.>

>“…”

>She gave it some more thought. “Umm,” she said while changing her previous approach and pushing it in with a stroking touch.

><Instructions: Needs more love.>

>“Be more specific!!”

>“Mito! Mito! If you don’t hurry up, your glove will expire!!”

>She glanced at the formatted meter on the back of her hand and found it was past halfway.

>I need to hurry, she thought, but then she came to a stop. She tried to push it in quite gently, so she was not sure what to do now.

>…Don’t tell me it requires the much more forceful gentleness of my mother.

IZUMO as always
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>>134521205
Kawakami couldn't have picked a better critical event. The Peace of Westphalia is one of the defining political moments of the last 500 years; it shapes affairs between states the way the Magna Carta shaped relations between kings and nobles, for instance.

As an example of its continuing influence, the UN Charter's Chapter 1 includes similar provisions almost word for word:
>Article 1-2: To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples
>Article 2-1:The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members
>Article 2-7: Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter
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