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Parts 6 and 7 are out.

https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume14_Chapter_2#Part_6
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When will this shit end?
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REMOVE Patricia.
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>>133506973
Fucking savage.
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So Levinia is basically growing another person's set of fat or something in her I take it? I'm not seeing the part where this is life threatening. Though maybe that's just Patricia not knowing shit about magic.
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>>133506904
>Patricia is a smell-fetish girl

My kind of girl.
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>>133507105

Why is Levinia so perfect?
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>>133507105
>Not avoiding getting touched by IB by not sitting right next to Touma
Is anyone in this house not tsundere?
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>>133507163
She is
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>>133506904
>As she spoke, Birdway removed her large brooch and unbuttoned her blouse.

>She was not wearing a bra, but a thin slip hung from shoulder straps and covered her from the chest to below the navel
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>>133507276
Can't they just call it an undershirt
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>>133506904
What a leader. I want to swear fealty to BIrdway.

>“That girl mentioned cannibalization, didn’t she?” A note of resignation entered Birdway’s voice. “A certain concept occasionally shows up in legends concerning food. If your eye is sick, eat an eye. If your arms or legs are lame, eat an arm or a leg. If your heart is bad, eat a heart. That way, you will regain a healthy body. Of course, another mammal like a pig or cow is often used, but it sometimes means eating body parts of another human.”

>“Wait…you don’t mean…”

>“I needed a way to save my sister.”

>As she spoke, Birdway removed her large brooch and unbuttoned her blouse.

>She was not wearing a bra, but a thin slip hung from shoulder straps and covered her from the chest to below the navel.

>But that was not what caught Kamijou’s attention.

>In addition to the two lovely mounds, there was something grotesque growing near the center of her flat chest.

>It pulsated like a living creature, but it was clearly entirely separate from Birdway’s own pulse.

>“I told you I have more than you, didn’t I?” Birdway gave a self-deprecating laugh. “I have created a new organ in my body that is meant to be eaten. If Patricia eats this once it’s fully grown, this will all be over.”
These fanservice that's done during a serious situation always makes me diamond.
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>>133506904
So how long until Kamisato's harem rapes him?
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>Cracking his neck is Kamisato's attempt at being cool
I suddenly feel really bad for the guy, not to mention he has a whole harem of yanderes
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>He placed a hand on the side of his neck and shook his head to the side a little, but the joint would not crack.

>And he still could not crack his neck.

>As they walked along the nighttime street, he placed a hand on the side of his neck. He was apparently trying to crack the joint, but it did not seem to be working.

Kamisato still cannot crack his neck
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>Ellen
How is it legal for a girl to be this best? If she had constantly tired eyes and a deadpan tone, she would be perfect.
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>>133506904
Worst harem ever
Birdway is literally the only one that is not shit
How is that even possible?
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>>133507580
But birdway is the shittiest of them all.
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>>133507580
The science girl is decent, she's been a bit of a bitch to Patricia but her interactions with Kamisato are pretty hilarious
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>“In other words, the setup is complete.”

>“She only draws Kamisato-san in because she isn’t aware what she’s doing. You know, just like always.”

Kamisato harem already know usual shit
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>In addition to the two lovely mounds, there was something grotesque growing near the center of her flat chest.
>In addition to the two lovely mounds
>two lovely mounds
kamachi pls.
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>>133507446
>>133507499
accel should teach him the art of neck cracking
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>>133507639
>Implying they're not
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>>133507616
Not really, she is also a bitch towards him
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Purple is my way of life.
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>>133507666
You could always just give the archetype to him yourself Silver Star
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>>133507580
I like Kamisato's Harem better than Touma's, though.

Then again, that's because I really hate tsunderes more than I hate yanderes.
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>>133507580
>Implying he is wrong
>Implying Patricia isn't cute and down to earth
I'll cut you.
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When is Uiharu going to defeat Claire and absorb her flowers?
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>>133507695
She just wants to wash his back anon
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Official harem ranking:

Hamazura's harem > Accel's harem > Kamisato's harem > Stiyl's harem > Touma's harem
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>>133507639
Normalfag pls go.
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>>133507720
They are basically the worst parts of Misaka and Lessar combined without any of their good points
They are shit
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>birdway isn't completely flat
>>133507580
Once she looses her parasite Patricia will go back to being boring and worst girl.
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>“If that’s just the type of girl she is, then what does it matter? I know we’re not one to talk, but Kamisato-san is surrounded by girls and they all want to show off with something that no one else has. …Maybe she’s trying to be the smell-fetish girl. H-hm… Going that route certainly would be a courageous decision.”
Kamachi pls
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>>133507794

>hamazura's

Name one good girl there. You literally can't.
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>>133507616
I agree. I enjoy her interactions with Kamisato.

God Tier: Patricia
High Tier: Ellen
Mid Tier: Claire
Low Tier: Elza
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>>133507849
Saiai
Umidori
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>“It has no real meaning.”
>“I wanted some kind of continual obsession. It could have been spinning a pen, whistling, or anything else. I wanted some small spice to leave the category of dull and uninteresting, so I ended up with this habit.”
Dammit Kamisato
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>>133507794
>Hamazura's harem
>A terminator, an insomniac and a half pint
The only good girl in it is Saiai
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>>133507849
Saiai
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>>133507794
What? Your taste literally cannot be worse. Touma has the best harem, period.

Harem Ranking: Touma > Accelerator > Hamazura > Kamisato > Stiyl
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>>133507794
Hamazura has a brigade not a harem anon.
>>133507864
>saiai
She dresses like a slut and has shit taste.
>Umidori
>implying she doesn't belong to WORST
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>>133507900
Swap Stiyl and Hamazura's positions and you've got it
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>>133507805
I like them.
At least they are more funny than Touma's harem.
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>>133507900
The mere presence of Index and Mikoto brings Touma's harem down to the bottom.
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>>133507720
I like tsundere but dislike yandere more than I dislike deredere. Different strokes.
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>>133507900
Touma has a shitty harem.

Kamisato > Accelerator > Hamazura > Touma > Stiyl
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>>133507946
>Mikoto
Elder God tier.
>Index
High tier.

Fight me, fag.
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>>133507919
>Implying thats a bad thing
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>>133507982
>Mikoto
Mid tier.
>Index
Lowest tier.

Now that's accurate.
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>Kamisato alone made his way to the men’s bath.

>“See you all later.”

>“Oh ,right. …Heh heh. But that ‘later’ might be a lot sooner than you think.”

>A chill ran down his spine, but he decided to assume he was imagining things.

Has Touma's harem ever shown this level of genre savvy?
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“Talking to an average high school boy about leading an organization isn’t going to help much. Sorry, but I’ve never even had a part-time job.”
average again

stop it
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>>133507950
>Disliking derdere
How can you be this much of a faggot
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>>133507900
Switch Shiage and Accelerator and I'll agree. Umidori and Saiai together > all of Accelerator harem combined.
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>>133508002
I don't think it counts as genre savvy when you yourself accomplish your predicitons
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>>133508022
Why do you? They tend to be boring, dull, flat, bland, presents no challenge, and not interesting because don't have their own means to stir conflict or drama or excitement to make things interesting.
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>They had moved their conversation along and left him behind, so Kamisato Kakeru lightly scratched at his head and tried making a rebuttal.

>“I’m not doing any of this because I want to.”

this guy is like touma would be if he is not unlucky as fuck
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The blonde girls in Touma's harem are literally the only good ones.
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>>133508098
Shit stirring and pointless drama aren't strengths anon
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>Kamisato harem act like characters from shitty battle harem LN
Dammit Kamachi
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>“Yeah, I asked around and there’s apparently a bathhouse around here that they usually use. That’s what this tiny teacher told me.”

komoe really live beside kamisato
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>>133507946
You mean Misaki and Itsuwa brings down his harem.
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The Kamisato faction's general attitude of "oh, you have a monster in your body? that doesn't seem like a big deal, now lets go bathe" doesn't seem to be reassuring Patricia at all.
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>>133508139
Itsuwa's alright, Kanzaki too if she counts.
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>>133508146
So par for the course in Index then.
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>>133508191
Touma's harem would be objectively more pleasant and interesting if Index and Mikoto switched places with Itsuwa and Misaki respectively.
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Another difference between Touma and Kamisato is that Touma already has a girl he has a smell fetish for in Othinus
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>>133508298
Touma sniffs everyone though, he's commented on Misaki, Mikoto, Index and the one indian chick from Endymion smelling good as well.
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>>133508254
>Shit taste
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>>133508144
>Thinking conflict and drama are automatically bad
Your post is so dumb, it gave me cancer.
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>kamisato's harem
its like im reading a battle harem inside a battle harem
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>>133508372
>When I make sweeping generalizations it's fine
>But if you do it you're cancer
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Leivinia > all, therefore Touma has the best harem.
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>>133508396
>They actively chasing his dick
Its like i read other LN
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>>133508340
>Irony
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post em
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kamisato sure is a lucky guy
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>>133508492
>Still pushing that new design
Old one looks better
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>>133508405
>sweeping generalizations
Except I didn't do that. I said they tend to be, like habitually the aforementioned, which is not far from the truth given the traits associated to the deredere archetype. You, on the other hand, just made a blank statement that implied as if conflict or drama are somehow a bad thing without proper reason.
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>>133508492
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>>133508492
An old one of mine. Too lazy to remake.
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>>133508015
He is in a competition to be the most average high school boy now. He is not average enough yet to befriend Kamisato
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>>133506904
>all those girls actively sticking around chasing kamisato's dick
its just like my battle school harem series
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>>133508492
>Implying I'll waste time and energy making one

Birdway
Othinus
Mikoto
Umidori
Saiai
Girl in the Dress
Lessar
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>>133508701
>Implying it takes more than 3 minutes if you know what you're doing
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what the fuck is this shits even about anymore
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>>133508796
A Certain Disgusting Aberration(s)
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>>133508755
Hunting down good images is a pain.
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Average fight between two normal highschool boys when?
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>>133508843
>Not hoarding images from series as you watch them
It's like I'm not on an imageboard
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>>133508492

Saiai
Othinus
Kuroko
Birdway
Worst
Awaki
Estelle
Marian
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>>133508492
Too easy.
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>>133508970
they all look the fucking same
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>>133508998
>Being shallow
>>133508970
That's a lot of emotions showing for the Sisters
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>>133508970
Whats wrong with bottom right Sister ?
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Yes please continue to spam retarded waifu faggotry. It's not like we have a lot of new information or anything. Yes, your waifushitting is way more important.

Fuck you all. And fuck the girls too.
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>>133509124
Half of the new material is waifushit, it only stands to reason half the thread is waifushit
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>>133509149
>Birdway explains what she's doing
>We see Kamisato use world rejector on something that isn't living
>nope we must autistically shit about waifus!!!11!
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>>133509124
>Part 7 about Kamisato harem
>Everyone talking about harem
I wonder why
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>>133508492
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>>133509124
fuck off
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>>133509228
Except that today we got practically nothing new except harem shit and Birdway confirming what Touma's harem already guessed. Also, Part 6 was way shorter than Part 7. This book is apparently focusing on harem shenanigans.
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>>133509228
What are you going to discuss about him using it on soap bubbles? It's interesting info but it doesn't exactly stimulate conversation. And the start of the thread did talk about Birdway's plan, but again we don't have much info on it either, it doesn't spark any new conversations.
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>>133509234
>let's spam haremshit waifufagging everywhere and say it's actually discussing the new material XD
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>people being mad at waifu faggotry

I think you're on the wrong board.
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>>133509271
No you fuck off
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>>133509270
It's kind of funny to me that as much as all of these are varied pretty much every single one has Saiai in there somewhere
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>>133509309
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>133509329
no YOU fuck off
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>>133509352
>>133509329
>I know you are but what am I
Reminder that minors aren't allowed on 4chan
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>>133509315
its like its a new thing
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>>133509337

Saiai's the best girl.
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>>133509381
Did you miss a word or are you actually pretending waifushit is new to /a/
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>>133509337

thighs chan is god tier
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waifufags and shipfags a shit. A SHIT.
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>>133509337
Best girl. Her lines always funny to read
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Awesome
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>>133508492
An old one I did long time go will soon update when I have the time.
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>>133509907
I was just thinking we had too much good taste in a row, thank you for restoring the world balance
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So many girls in index yet only a small number of them are top tier.

If I were to have a harem it'd just be Levinia, Saiai, Misaki, and Kanzaki.
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So Kamisato is a normal highschool boy who sits naked in a bathhouse surrounded by naked girls who want his dick and he's thinking about another normal highschool boy? He seems pretty gay, can't wait for his shitty harem to be btfo though.
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>>133510062
Honestly I find it a bit weird that he's all that worried about Touma in the first place. I mean sure his accomplishments sound threatening but anyone who knows Touma know he's not exactly a huge threat on his own. So all this worrying about "Oh man, we gotta deal with Touma" feels off.
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>>133510094
That's why I'm saying Kamisato is gay, he's gay for Touma. That's the only reason Kamisato isn't having an orgy right now. That or someone needs to update kamachi.exe on what normal highschool boys want.
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>Kamisato keeps trying to crack his joint and fails
>tfw too normal to crack your joint like a badass
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>>133510152
>yfw he finally cracks his neck after his normal fight against touma
hype
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>>133510174
Nah, one of Touma's punches will crack his neck and he'll turn into a nice guy.
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>>133510194
soo he will be nice to magic gods then?
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>>133510464
So long as another Magic God doesn't make his neck uncrackable again. He hasn't said that WR was what the magic gods did to him, it's got to be his neck cracking that he's so mad about.
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>>133508492
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Kamisato is better version of Touma
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>>133510659
Here's your reply
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>>133510659
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>>133508592
Excellent taste.

>>133508609
I literally cannot comprehend why one of these isn't Fre-Nda.
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>can even disappear soap bubbles with just a word
>yfw he can literally jazz hands shit to death

Power up for Touma fucking when? And I don't care about Othinus' damn shit this is just bullshit.
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>>133510659
>wanting the more gary stu version of touma

and touma wasnt gary stu enough for you?
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Holy shit. Is js06 some kind of god? How is he so freaking fast?
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>>133510893
He is actually taking longer than usual this time
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>>133510820
i think othinus only implied that touma doesnt need martial arts and IB alone is all he need, touma only needs to to master IB and his set for life
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>>133510960
>Speed reading
Othinus included "some new power" as well, she said that getting stronger would only increase his ability to cut people off, whatever your view on it is what was said was that his strength is connecting to people and that he won't do that as well were he to wield stronger weapons.
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>>133510785
Eh, she would be there if it's for top ten, but I didn't put put much effort at the time so I only put down my most favorite four.
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I still want to know how the fuck Kamisato accomplished so much and gathered a harem so large in the small time since NT10.

From the looks of it, he went through every single generic LN story to gather his harem.
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>>133510960
>touma only needs to to master IB and his set for life
still wonder what would have happen if noukan didnt interrupt and destroyed the comet, and what would have touma do at that event.
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>>133511055
The same way Touma got haremettes in a few volumes?
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I haven't read this shit in a year, but has Touma ended up with Othinus yet?

Or is there yet another new slut on the block?
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>>133511110
>has Touma ended up with Othinus yet?
It will never ever happen.
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>>133511110
There isn't a new girl yet, but Othinus hasn't won either
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>>133511068
Wasn't the dragon about to come out on that moment?
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>>133511055
his probably have been doing it since before having WR
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>>133511093
Touma's had 6 months to accomplish shit and build up his harem. World Rejector has only been around for about a week.

According to this chapter, Kamisato has around hundreds of girls in his faction. If we count the 10,000 clones as one unique entity, I don't think that Touma's harem even nears that much.
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>>133508492
Got bored and tallied /a/'s taste in harems past here, only including girls who got mentioned 2 or more times because fuck writing them all down;

Saiai 6

Othinus 5
Levinia 5

Worst 4

Lessar 3
Umidori 3
Mikoto 3
Misaki 3

Kongou 2
Itsuwa 2
Fukiyose 2
Kanzaki 2
Misha 2

Can't tell if I'm more surprised at Umidorifags being as common as Mikotofags or Saiai being more popular than Othinus and Birdway
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>>133511187
>If we count the 10,000 clones as one unique entity
But we don't. Plenty of unknown girls appeared when he came back at the start of NT.
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>>133511202

What's so good about saiai? Is she only popular because of her dumb speech pattern?
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>>133511274
that and those fucking thighs
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>>133511274
The outfit. Don't forget the outfit.
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>>133511274
It's probably that she's inoffensive. Both Birdway and worst have their detractors, Mikotofags have THK, Frenda is obvious etc. I don't see anyone getting pissy about Saiai ever and she's cute so it makes some amount of sense. My guess is she's that character that few have as their favorite but many have as their number 2/3/whatever
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>>133511325
*Both Birdway and Othinus rather, I don't see a lot of Worst detractors either but there are a couple.
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>>133511202
Othinus is shit and overrated.
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Kamisato - Touma done right?
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>>133511475
More like Touma taken too far
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>>133511274
In addition to what other anons have already said, it's probably that's she's usually surrounded by shit in item. This would increase her appeal. She's also a fairly good person most of the time, despite being painted as fairly aggresive. She saved Touma 2 volumes ago for instance.
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>>133511475
He has a completely different character than Touma. Has shown by the latest parts where he says he doesn't help people because he wants to.
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>>133511535
To which his harem immediately said if they weren't doing what they were he'd be off on his own doing it alone? He just seems like he's not honest with himself.
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>>133511475
>>133511550
He's like a mix of Touma and Accel.
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>>133511561
He's not edgy enough to be part Accel, I'd say it's more like Hamazura and Touma.
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>>133511550
Well offcourse, if he didn't want to he just wouldn't help people. But it's still a sharp contrast to Touma since Touma always says he helps people because he wants to. I'm talking about the way they behave and act. Wanting to help people seems like one of the few character traits they have in common.
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>kamisato harem
fuck that, noukan parts when?
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>>133511609
They have a decent amount in common in their situations, the harem, right hand power, normal high schooler etc. But I agree their personalities are a bit different, especially since I can't really see Touma being motivated by revenge as petty as "man someone gave me IB, better go kill them for it". Hell Touma's more or less happy he has IB whereas Kamisato's being an ass about it.
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>tfw bored

So when we hitting Touma & Othinus again? Or based Noukan?
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>>133511723
probably chapter 3 or some shit
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>>133511723
Othinus will just be sprinkled through the volume, I'd expect Noukan in the last chapter
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Well we already have one large difference between Touma and Kamisato.

Kamisato seems to be traveling with his harem. Touma will run off on his own at the very first opportunity. Forget traveling with anyone, he doesn't even know where most of them live.
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You know, Kamisato's harem antics feels incredibly forced. I mean, things sometimes do feel forced in Index, but this feels even more forced than usual. What is Kamachi trying to do?
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>>133511839
It doesn't look like that's because of Kamisato's personality so much as his harem's though
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>>133511906
>What is Kamachi trying to do?
telling us that you want that shit to happen to touma?
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>>133511906
The bath house shenanigans seem like incredibely generic harem shit to me. I think he might be mocking otakus who like that shit.
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>>133511982
But Touma's harem's trying to get involved with him all the time. It's just that he always sneaks off on his own so no one ever gets a chance to.

If Touma wants to sneak away, there's very little stopping him from doing so.
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>>133512037
>tfw Othinus knows when he fucks off and just tags along

Impressed actually.
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>>133512101
>>>/gd/242835
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>>133512135
Tried that, didn't work.
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>>133512068
spending alot of time usually does that
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>>133512037
It seems like Kamisato sneaks off most often too, he only called the one girl to tell her where he was and she's a forensics person as it is, its probably just that his harem has a much easier time finding him than Touma's does. Even then there's about the same amount of people around Kamisato right now as are usually following Touma sans times Tsuchimikado's kidnapped him.
>>133512068
They don't say they understand each other for nothing.
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>>133512180
>he only called the one girl to tell her where he was
That was never mentionned. Considering she had a uav right above him he didn't even need to tell her where he was. Their whole operation feels like it was planned out and while his harem is rather forceful I never got the impression that he actively tries to shake them off, rather he makes use of them. We've already established that Kamisato is pretty much compeltely different than Touma character wise, Kamisato seems much more thoughtful and analyzing than Touma who is more of rush in first, punch everything and ask questions later kind of guy. This means it would make a lot of sense for him to actually use his harem's abilities rather than be like Touma and rush off.
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>>133512317
Touma's plenty thoughtful and analyzing, though. The difference is that he usually only considers himself as a pawn, while Kamisato's willing to use anything and everything at his disposal.

Kamisato is willing to cross lines that Kamijou would hesitate or outright refuse to cross.
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>>133512147

Still don't understand how she tortured Touma with a world with nothing but panties.
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>>133512317

So how long until we see Touma punching those chicks out?
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>>133512317
I got the impression that when the harem stated he'd be off saving girls on his own if they weren't there that he'd done that before, but I suppose that's not confirmed. That and his ideas of circling around back to the apartment instead of the bathouse but deciding that would just get him in trouble give me the image of a guy who *would* ditch them but figures it's not worth it from experience.
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>>133512354
Relatively sure that was just a gag
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>>133512353
>Touma's plenty thoughtful and analyzing
Only when forced to by other characters or as a last resort. His first reaction is usually go in fist blazing. Look at WW3 arc, he just ran off to Russia without really thinking things through. When he does take a step back and think things through, he's usually pretty smart though.
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>>133512374
>the harem stated he'd be off saving girls on his own if they weren't there
They said he'd do it whether they helped him or not. The circling around was because he wanted to focus on the task at hand and go to a bathhouse to get molested. I'm sorry but to me none of this seems indicative of him actively trying to keep people out of his troubles.
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>>133512487
Not because he wants to keep them out of his troubles but because he finds them a bother was the idea. The two examples just paint a picture of a guy who has ditched them before and at this point figures it's more trouble than it's worth to leave them.
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>>133512510
The first is example is the reason why they help when they don't want him to save random girls, because you know more competition and all that. This has nothing to do with wether he wants them there or not.
Second example is him wanting to shift focus on something, again this has nothing to do with him wanting to ditch them for whatever reason.

Also he seems pretty accepting about how they act for the most part even if he does try to steer things the way he wants them to. So I don't see why he would ditch them because they're bothersome.
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>>133511906
It feels like parody of harem events that you often see. Falling from the sky to meet the MC for example. I also think it's Kamachi's way of poking fun at people who want Touma's nature and the story to change into what they believe is right for him.

Othinus basically acted as Kamachi's mouthpiece when she gave off that speech about Touma not taking martial arts/weapons and explained the rationale behind it and why the story is like this. The contrast with Kamisato who's very methodical with his harem and whose harem antics seem forced kinda reinforce it.

>You wanted the girls to all treat Touma nicely right? You wanted Touma to act smarter and methodical in how he does things right? A harem 'faction' that sticks together and does badass things as a group? Well, here you go
My first impression was that Kamisato's harem wasn't fun to read and maybe that's the intended effect.
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There is two extremes of good - someone like Ollerus, who does what he feels right for him consequences and everyone else be damned. And someone like Crowley, who look at the big picture. And Touma with Kamisato are mild representations of these ideals.

>>133512614
>You wanted the girls to all treat Touma nicely right? You wanted Touma to act smarter and methodical in how he does things right? A harem 'faction' that sticks together and does badass things as a group? Well, here you go
>My first impression was that Kamisato's harem wasn't fun to read and maybe that's the intended effect.

Actually i would enjoy it more and wouldn just read index for its setting and because of habit.
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>>133512757
Just to clarify what I wrote, there's a way that such a set-up can be fun to read but the point was that Kamachi didn't seem to make it fun since his intention was most likely to parody it. Or at least that's the feeling I got. Even the harem girls seemed off.
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>>133512889
Or he just cant write. Like with Accelerator. And its his way of telling us "Sorry guys i just cant write about things like these".
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>>133513067
Maybe he just doesn't want to.
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Ehh, I'm really not liking Kamisato's harem so far, especially with them focusing on baths before Patricia
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Ah, feels like Touma is becoming snarky again.
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>>133513460

Nothing wrong with that.
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This Kamisato's harem starts being quite annoying. There was some balance between plot and scenes involving shenanigans of Touma's harem, but now it's pushing it too far.
Also I find Touma's harem and interactions much more enjoyable. It almost seems as if Kamachi made a character and his surrounding out of readers' complaints about Touma.

On an unrelated note, I'm surprised by Leivinia's lack of comments about big-breasted, half naked magic goddess sitting in front of her in onii-chan's room.
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>>133511202
>Misha
You mean Sasha, right? Cos Misha is Archangel Gabriel.
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So I've been meaning to start reading this shit for the longest time and I got two questions.

>Is it honestly worth it?
>If yes, can I skip the first 14-ish novels that are covered with the anime? I don't care that much about missing "SUPER IMPORTANT" small details.
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>>133513642
There are more important things to worry about rather than the delicious brown titty goddess
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>>133513781

Start wherever the animu ends.
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>>133513781
Yes and yes
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>>133513781
It worth especially vol 15
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>>133513642
Kamisato's faction really is more of a parody. At least Kamisato himself is pretty enjoyable. He might become one of the bros of Kamijou's faction.
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>>133513797
There is nothing more worrisome than a busty chocolate showing her big fat tats around onii-chan.
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>>133513476
Of course.
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>>133513977
Niang-Niang with the no pan unf
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>>133511027
In my opinion mastering IB isn't exactly a new power, and Kamachi stealth buffed Touma already.
Also, if Demon Lord Touma is still a possibility, Kamachi is hinting that Touma will get a power up in that case.
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>>133513977
What is Touma thinking?
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Okay, let's get this straight.

Touma's powers/abilities
>IB
>IT/Dragons
>Third Power
>Anti-supernatural Precog
>Hypothetical Esper ability

IB is sealing the IT/Dragons (and possibly the Esper ability), probably at the expense of being able to utilize its full potential (hence Terra's statement that Touma wasn't using IB to its fullest potential and Laura/the Magic Gods saying that IB is incomplete, thus resulting in WR being created).

So, if IB doesn't have to constantly suppress anything it could possibly be used at its full potential.

Which leaves the issue of IT/Dragons. They're sealed for a reason (that we don't know yet). However, the Third Power can also suppress them. So Touma could use the Third Power to suppress IT/Dragons while IB can be used at full power.

Although it could be that the Third Power requires Touma to actively/consciously suppress IT/Dragons, whereas IB does it 'passively' so it's more convenient (which then has the issues of IB being 'incomplete')

So maybe resolving these issues would be the key to to Touma using IB's full power (and get a powerup that makes sense).

I no longer have any idea where I'm going with this
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>>133514060
>these breasts don't even feel that good
>I wonder what's on sale at the supermarket
>I'm gonna get slapped for this aren't I
>my feet hurt
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How the hell does a poorfag like Touma even support all these freeloaders?
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>>133514060

Probably a relapse of his torture at various worlds.
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>>133514128
Aleister manipulates the sales he can get so he's never starving
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>>133514146

That makes a lot of sense.
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>>133514073
The so called Third Power was Touma telling them squarely to fuck off.
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>>133514207
Either way, Touma can do that, and take the strain off IB.
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Did anything worthwhile happen in these parts?
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>>133514225
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>>133514267
No
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What if the #6 is a Touma clone who can actually use his esper ability?
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>>133514146
Speaking of Aleister, I recall that he has like micro robots laced in the air of Academy City that literally monitor EVERYTHING.

Surely he knows the location of ever intruder in Academy City right? Damn it why doesn't he do anything.
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>>133514289
All part of the plan anon.
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>>133514279
What if Kamisato is #6?
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>>133514289
Why bother? Plus, Dog is currently recuperating
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>>133514060
>not the Hell of Boobs again
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>>133514289

Keikaku is going great
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>>133514311
What if #6 is Aogami and he's actually the final boss
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At this point Touma should really just ask his parents for a larger allowance, or something
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>>133512614
>My first impression was that Kamisato's harem wasn't fun to read and maybe that's the intended effect.
My first impression is similar.

I don't think we are meant to dislike them, but I don't think we are meant to like them either.

That might change later on.

>>133511839
Another difference between the two can be seen from how they are handling the current situation.

Touma's first reaction to an enemy is to get food for his friends.

When he finds out someone is in trouble, he is focused on that.

Kamisato's reaction to an enemy is to focus on that. When the girls suggest going to a bath, he's against it because they should be focused on something else.

And while he wants to help Particia, he's still focused on Touma as the "main" problem.

>>133513895
It would be rather funny if the Kamisato Faction (seemingly a type of organisation) becomes just another branch of the Kamijou Faction (a loosely connected group of individuals who come together and grow apart as the situation demands)
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>>133508850
I miss that shit ever since Touma fisted Hamazura, good old times.
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raildex a shit

sage
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>>133514060
>Maybe if i dont move they will go away
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>>133510659
Only if you dislike suffering and fukou da, otherwise Touma is more interesting. It's more fun to watch someone fall the rabbit hole and struggle than someone that's being chased to the point of borderline rape.
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>Kamisato has a hundred girl harem
>he's only been in the business for like a week at the very most
Fucking WR
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>>133514128
Isnt his father super rich or something
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>>133506904
So in the end, was Kamisato raped?
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>>133514612
He gets payed by AC
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>>133514675
Thanks doc
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>>133514794
He's a Level 0. He doesn't get much.
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>>133514733
No.

His dad is a successful business man, but he's not implied to be overly wealthy.

Touma get his income from AC - but its the lowest level because he's a Level 0.
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>>133514289
He mentioned that his plans took some severe setbacks or something, so he's probably given up on the immediate plans he had and entertains himself while stalking everyone until the time comes.
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I kinda like this volume, there is no retarded viewpoints from background characters like in the previous one. Just Touma's viewpoint and Kakeru's.
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>>133515002

I am bored.
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>>133514073
Whatever the true IB is, it sounds broken.
Maybe it can strip the target from all supernatural abilities and works from distance, like WR.
Or it sends the target to the original world without >layers, as the opposite to WR's perfect world.

Few theories about DRAGONS:
- it's some very spoopy power/being sealed by IB in Touma
- it's another/true form of IB; Dragons are released and "eat" supernatural
- it's Touma's own power released during few seconds before IB gets its shit together
- it's a safety system installed by Crowley

The interesting question is if Invisible Thing == DRAGONS.
The fact that both are released when Touma loses his arm seem to work in favor of this theory. Also having two different broken powers sealed in one arm at the same time sounds quite weird.
On the other hand, Crowley didn't act when Dragons were released, opposite to his reckless actions at the end of WW3. However it could be the matter of witness with enough knowledge to realize what IT actually is. Also for some reason IT is obviously invisible while a bunch of Dragons couldn't be any more conspicuous. So unless there is some condition determining the visibility of Dragons, they should be different powers.
Finally, IT and Dragons might be related, but not exactly the same. For example Dragons attack might be just an ability of IT.

As for Touma's esper ability, I have a theory that he's not an esper at all. He's super important because of IB, which he had before he got to AC and the Dragons/IT which he either had before as well, or had implanted in AC. Anyway, making him an esper would be just a waste of time, since a) this power would most likely be level 0 or level 1, b) it would be suppressed by IB anyway. Also an esper ability might interfere with magic-related things.
So since IB makes his esper power undetectable, he could get a placebo treatment or a spoopy present form Crowley and believe that he is a proper esper with his power permanently suppressed by IB.
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>>133514698
He's only had WR in its full form for about a week, but it started manifesting in his hand and the harem shenanigans began shortly after the end of WW3.
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