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Well we made it through the week
>>133465917
Are we getting an early release next chapter or is that just a hopeful rumor?
>>133466125
No, we won't, if this were a holiday break involving the whole SJ issue, maybe, but this was a normal break of OP, so there is normal schedule for release too.
I want some sea monsters in One Piece that aren't one shots like the sea kings or the kraken.
>>133466407
Like so?
>>133466407
I think Sea Kings are only a threat to people who shouldnt be on the seas in the first place
cant handle the LotC? Stay out of the ocean period. Can't handle Grand Line Sea Kings? Stay out of the Grand Line
they're midbosses and nothing more
>>133466407
What would you like from those Sea monsters? Like as a strawhat pet or what?
If Ace became a Marine would the World Government advertise that he was Gol D. Roger's son? Would they treat it like "Hey the Pirate King's son is a Marine" or would they execute him
>>133467933
they probably wouldnt execute him, since that would be retarded, hes serving them willingly. theyd probably say something like "even the pirate kings son recognizes justice"
ace would be admiral tier in no time in the marines
>>133466407
Luffy will totally summon the Kraken and have Shirahoshi to fuck shit up in the final war. Even if Shirahoshi is garbage seeing her in the war commanding Sea Kings would be hype as fuck.
Just thinking about all the stuff that could happen is so exiting, imagine Mansherry on the front lines healing people left and right, constantly draining at her life force, Galley-La providing ships, so many possibilities.
>>133467107
>>133467043
I mean cant we have a few legendary monsters that are hard to defeat even for 100-300million bounty pirates?
>>133468750
No
the bigger you are in One Piece, the more shit you are. Well i'd be okay with someone getting whooped by a NW Dugong but nothing bigger than that
>laws crew
what a bunch of tards
>>133468908
say this to Newgate or Kuma
>After beating a Fishman boss and entering the Grand Line, the next major arcs took place on a snowy island, a kingdom under attack by a Shichibukai, and an unorthodox "island" inhabited by a newly introduced species
>After beating a Fishman boss and entering the New World, the next major arcs took place on a snowy island, a kingdom under attack by a Shichibukai, and an unorthodox "island" inhabited by a newly introduced species
If the next two arcs consist of saving Sanji from a major Navy base and fighting Weeble on a gimmick island, then I might be done with One Piece.
>>133469010
>Newgate
famous for fighting a big dick in his youth. Spends the rest of his life going soft and adopting grown ass men while coddling his red-haired 'nephew'. Ultimately does nothing important and dies at Marineford. Possibly sired a retard
>Kuma
Literally the government's teddybear fucctoi
>>133469044
Also dont forget the big war at the end.then the timeskip
>>133469124
Akainu pls
>>133469124
BB is also fairly big and the main villain.
>>133469242
BB being big is the reason he'll turn out to be shit later. I mean it's not like the 'villain' will ever beat Luffy so he's fucked anyway
Everyone remember to do your best to appreciate Penguin today!
>>133468971
They are his friends.
>>133469461
I bet when the heart pirates go to a new island Law has to fight the enemy boss AND his 2nd in command
>>133469044
Pack your bags, it's time to leave Jim.
>>133469044
I don't get why this is a bad thing? It's not like the arcs are alike. I think the paralleling elements are cool.
>>133469304
That fruit had a lot of potential, imagine him opening a door to the middle of the ocean.
Or into the center of the sun.
>>133469681
I think it might be the strongest fruit ever created. he has his own dimension that he can seemingly stay in indefinitely.
instantly makes absaloms fruit useless
stronger defensively than barto's, marco's,basically anything
instakill if he opens a door to the sun, the ocean (for df users), space, etc
instead he fucking opens a door in luffys head and then monologues at him instead of just slitting his throat while his head was spinning. I honestly got extremely salty, I know its a shonen and that sort of stuff cant happen but still.
When should i watch strong world?
Im at impel down, should i wait until all the stawhats are reunited?
>>133469828
After the filler arc that ties into Strong World.
Is Jack after an 'it', 'him', or 'they?
>>133469968
a manly man
WHO DO YOU THINK HE IS
>>133469968
It's ambiguous for now because nips don't use pronouns, but it's most likely a 'him', seeing how sheepshead was looking for a samurai back in 795
>>133469822
>stronger defensively than barto's, marco's,basically anything
source: your ass
>instakill if he opens a door to the sun, the ocean (for df users), space, etc
and how is he going to touch the sun, nigger? or space?
>>133470260
it is stronger defensively. he is literally in another dimension, nothing can touch him at all
source:cp9 coverstory
Who has the worst fights and why is it Nami? All her battles is just one bullshit after another, make me feel bad for enemies she beats.
>>133469461
why are there two penguins?
>>133469515
kek
>>133473166
Sanjis fights are worst too. We know he will lose.
I just finished marineford arc and Im currently at the timeskip. Should I quit before it becomes shit?
>>133473753
Yes. Time to move on to more mature stuff like Tokyo Ghoul. Don't come back.
>>133473166
This angers me beyond anything (also Robin). Khalifa was such a shitty oponent, and she didn't even had a fishman to curbstomp like almost everyone else.
I mean, yeah, shes weak af, but with the sorcery clima-tact being supposedly so much better, she also has incredible firepower now, and she can render herself invisible, but shes now more cowardly than Ussop? fuck that.
>>133474494
>but shes now more cowardly than Ussop?
She was always part of the weakling trio? But she fights when she has to.
>>133474494
What does all that have to do with her being cowardly? It's not like she was ever one to look for fights pre-timeskip either.
>>133474586
I mean, after she defeated a CP9 agent (even if it was the weakest one and the only woman) I was expecting more of her, specially considering that Usopp and Chopper grew stronger and braver too (specially Chopper).
I guess I'm jumping to conclusions, since she wasn't even in Dressrosa in this arc, but if she remains the only SH that can't handle an officer in Zou, I guess I'll have to shit all over these threads until Oda does something.
>>133474738
>Chopper grew stronger and braver too (specially Chopper)
Why do you say this about Chopper and not nami? They both showed the same bravery and resolve in PH.
>>133474738
Adding on to >>133474775 In fact, Nami was the one to save Chopper in PH against Monet.
Is Sanji allright? Just now that the bounty poster changed to only alive, he apparently died.
He spent two years in hell, just for never getting a chance of using 98 of the 99 recipes.
who do you think is the strongest enemy Luffy defeated pre timeskip?
I'm going with croc based on his marineford feats.
its kinda weird how he lost to pre gear luffy but was able to clash with doffy, mihawk, jozu, akainu, at marineford. because luffy at marineford would not be able to do that. (as we saw by croc saving him vs mihawk)
>>133465917
>>133473950
R.I.P. mangapanda
Admiral level Zoro assessing the situation.
>>133475293
Enel is by far the strongest easily, he just had a bad matchup against Luffy. If we're taking that into account, then it's Lucci.
>>133469044
The arcs may parallel but how they play out is completely different.
>>133475527
not sure how to feel about it, guess i gotta wait till next week.
>>133476670
This. I have mixed feelings about it. Despite their crappy translations they still give us early chapters.
>>133474494
When has Usopp ever been a coward? He planned to fight Kuro alone in his introduction arc, Luffy and Zoro and Nami just didn't let him.
>>133476978
last chapter
>>133476978
>When has Usopp ever been a coward?
Of course, Usopp literally has the I'll-die-if-I-go-to-that-island disease.
>>133469822
>instakill if he opens a door to the sun, the ocean (for df users), space, etc
>Thinking that DFs do not have limited ranges.
>>133475293
>its kinda weird how he lost to pre gear luffy but was able to clash with doffy, mihawk, jozu, akainu, at marineford. because luffy at marineford would not be able to do that. (as we saw by croc saving him vs mihawk)
Getting his will back did wonders to him.
>>133475293
Enel could buttfuck every single enemy the Strawhats faced at the same time if he wanted to.
>>133475293
Pre-gear Luffy is still a stupidly powerful character
>>133475293
Enel.
Enel not only has Observation Haki, he also has one of the most powerful Logia out there. The only reason Luffy was able to "beat" him was because he is immune to electricity. That being said, Enel objective was to go to the Moon so in the end he did actually win.
>>133475293
If we talking about "the strongest enemy" overall, than it's easily Moria, who was slightly below yonko level in his prime. Sure he was in horrible condition when he faced Strawhats.
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/64473/20151110/eiichiro-oda-and-akira-toriyama-of-one-piece-and-dragon-ball-talk-sleep.htm
>>133478890
>who was slightly below yonko level in his prime
We don't know that. He got fucked by Kaido. Kidd/Hawkins/Apoo will also get fucked by Kaido, are they slightly below a Yonko, too?
I think you overestimate his Primestrength
>>133479081
He was rivaled with Kaido at some point
>>133465917
Is apforums dead?
Is Sanji dead?
>>133479829
Carrot is equal to Zoro from what we've seen, so this picture is pretty plausible. She would low-diff Sanji.
>>133479912
>low-diff
fuck off to where you came from
>>133477974
Riiiiiight
>>133475293
raw strength: enel
strength/skill: does kizaru count? if not, i'd give it to magellan, personally. he's the only true arc boss from pre timeskip that basically lost by timeout and not a ko. he basically had the entire mob minus a few members on the ropes until ivankov got them out.
>>133480744
>strongest enemy Luffy defeated pre timeskip
>defeated
>>133475779
Except they're the same.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-13/3-men-arrested-for-uploading-one-piece-chapter-to-english-website/.95349
>>133480945
>5 hours behind
>>133475615
Goddamn that whole arc was fantastic. It's such a shame everyone shits on it, because it's probably my favorite with Arlong Park and Sabaody.
>>133480988
Skypiea? The arc that made me quit reading OP?
>>133480905
How? FI and PH were completely different from AP and Drum. The only one that had similar scenerios appart from minor parallels like "snow" or some shit was DR and Alabasta. But even then, the two stories within the respective arcs played out way differently. Especially since Doffy had already taken over the country, so the setup itself was different from the start. Also if I recall correctly, I'm pretty sure alabasta didnt have a tournament or reverse-retrival subplot.
>>133480905
Are you retarded?
>>133481343
Kill yourself
>>133469044
You are seriously complaining about superficial similarities and imply that the post-ts arcs are the same and played out the same as the pre-ts arcs? Holy shit, you are a fucking retard and it would be a blessing if you drop this manga.
>>133469044
>a kingdom under attack by a Shichibukai
this part is wrong though
>>133480945
So no more Chinese raws?
>>133480905
Did someone ever said you are smart ?
Well, they lied to you big time
>>133481343
You have the worse taste I have ever seem in 4chins, during the 7 years I have been here here, in this shithole
>>133479912
>Carrot is equal to Zoro
>>133481933
...and that means chapters released by Saturday at best.
>>133482250
Different anon but when I first got into one piece I watched the anime from 1 to then most current 490 something. I binged like a motherfucker because its great but the only time I ever took a break was during skypeia. I though the arc was about done then they went into the Norland flashback which indicated to me it wasn't close to being done. I got bored. Once I hopped back on I never once stopped again
>>133479829
This scene looks like when Pitou has Kits head in her lap.
Did they just rip that whole scene?
>>133483109
It's a fanart parody.
>>133483109
>OP-HxH-parody.jpg
Nah, it has nothing to do with the Pitou scene.
>>133483229
>>133483256
Sorry wasn't paying attention to the file names it's really late for me.
>>133466407
>>133467043
>>133468750
>>133468908
We've seen small sea kings get defeated (Lord of the Coast) but not the fuckhuge monsters that people are usually scared of.
>>133469313
> I mean it's not like the 'villain' will ever beat Luffy
You're really retarded mate
>>133479912
>Carrot was able to stop Zoro's sword
>OMG THEY BOTH HAVE 9000 HAKI POINTS
This is why powerlevelfags are the scum of these threads
>>133479912
She's good at dodging. Wanze could dodge Sanji, you want to tell me that he's on par?
Looks like it's time to post this shit again.
>>133483663
>You're really retarded mate
prove me wrong nigga
i'll wait
>>133484417
Today
I will remind them
That Mihawk is a fucking child
>>133484648
Makes sense so. People who are at the top of their game gets bored. Mihawk must be pumped to fight Zoro at his maximum potential.
>>133484690
that's not an excuse, he could have gone after Whitebeard and fought or whoever. It's not like the dude doesnt have a rolodex of people he wants to test
>>133484749
>and fought Vista*
>>133484749
What interest does he have in fighting Whitebeard ? Dude had a bisento, not a sword. Mihawk gave enough shit to swing his arm against WB once then just gave up since some twat stood in the way.
So now that panda got fucked up their clogged up pooper, when can we expect scanlations of the newest chapter now?
>>133484749
>It's not like the dude doesnt have a rolodex of people he wants to test
What ? I know I'm stupid as hell but this sentence is confusing me.
>>133484562
>>133484853
What happened to it ?
>>133484825
see
>>133484777
>>133484869
He remembers/knows people who he considers worthy. I think the Decalvan Brothers went after him but he didnt remember them but knew both Vista and Daz Bones despite Daz only circumstantially being a swordsman
>>133484871
>Kuzan
>villain
you can do better than that
>>133484942
Knowing people and caring about them is diffent though. Zoro is so far the only person to have impressed Mihawk as a swordsman. Excluding Shanks, obviously. Mihawk knows Vista and Daz won't be able to beat him but he has hopes for Zoro.
>>133484982
Oh. Do mangapanda and stream get their scans from the same source ? If not, everything should just be normal, right . We'd just have to wait like an hour or so more.
>>133485033
who said anything about caring? If he was bored, he could have went to test someone who might have a chance, not chase after a bunch of green East Blue pirates
he didnt even know about Zoro at that point, he was just chasing Krieg because he's kind of a dick
>>133484853
If Mangastream is still around, still on Thurdays but a little later on in the day
If not, you'll have to wait until Saturday at the earliest.
>>133485232
>wait until Saturday at the earliest.
>>133485228
It's not the WGS's job to look for people to beat. It's his job to stick around till someone stronger runs in to him. Mihawk was bored, he saw some kids trying to play pirates, he whooped their asses cause he had nothing better to do. If Vista had founf Mihawk before Mihawk saw Krieg, everything would have been fine.
>>133484969
Croc, Akainu, Magellan, Smoker, Lucci, Kizaru, Sentomaru, take your pick
>>133485431
the only one of them to even stop Luffy was Magellan
and Magellan isnt a fucking villain, m8
>>133485396
this has nothing to do with the 'job' he doesnt care about in the first place
Mihawk has ALWAYS done exactly what he felt like doing. Nothing was stopping him from finding better entertainment. Vista being a prime example
>>133485695
What the hell is your standard for a "villain" because they're unarguably antagonists that have beaten Luffy.
>the only one of them to even stop Luffy was Magellan
Oh it's the wikifag, nevermind.
>>133485695
Sentomaru and Kizaru really got them. Kuma and Silvers were the only reason they scaped (and Kuma could have killed them, if he actually followed the WG orders).
>and Magellan isn't a fucking villain, m8
Then most opponents Luffy faced weren't villains either.
>>133485878
>Kuma and Silvers were the only reason they scaped
exactly. There wasnt a defeat there
>most opponents Luffy faced weren't villains either.
no of course they arent. Marines doing their jobs arent villains. Being a shithead for the sake of it is a villain; I was never talking about antagonists
>>133485871
>Oh it's the wikifag, nevermind.
If you have so little to say that you need to deflect then you need to stop replying already
>>133473358
he had his mr 2 fight at least.
>>133485976
>exactly. There wasnt a defeat there
Then, what is a defeat? Luffy failing to achieve his goals and being overpowered should count as one. Smoker in Logetown is a defeat, Akainu in Marineford is a defeat.
How is this: https://youtu.be/clCEmKyUSHw?t=8m7s not being defeated?
Also, I understand what you are trying to say about marines not being villains,but we're saying that an opponent defeating Luffy is quite possible. Also, even if it's their job, everyone in Impel Down is fucking insane.
>>133486227
>Also, I understand what you are trying to say about marines not being villains,but we're saying that an opponent defeating Luffy is quite possible
that was never the argument. An antagonist is not a villain. There are villains within the marines but not every Marine is a villain because they try to stop Luffy
Kuma, Smoker and Akainu are not villains. I dont even know why you put Kuma there when the whole point of that separation was to help them/keep them alive
Kizaru is iffy at best on being an actual villain but he still isnt the one who 'defeats' Luffy
(most of) the marines aren't the villains
even luffy said so
>>133465917
Wait another week plus a day for nippon scans and translation.
Do you guys remember how she got this sick? Oh right. Because she walked around with a bare midriff in a jungle. Has Nami learned nothing?
>>133486844
unless she walked around covering her whole body like those guys in punk hazard she'd probably still get bit
>>133486844
You mean after her clothes got burned?
>>133486844
>Because she walked around with a bare midriff in a jungle
she would have gotten bit regardless. Doctorine was just being colorful with her description and happened to hit the mark
>>133485334
You are an idiot. ONLY first time must you wait longer. the following chapters are coming within a week.
You asshole,
ZEHAHAHAHA
>>133487009
BUT ONE PIECE MAN
I cant wait for Shanks to come back and have some personality
I miss his goofy side
>>133487036
why is this faggot crying?
>>133487009
I feel like a particularly clever bot typed this message
>>133487136
he's dead, m8
>>133486472
>even luffy said so
prove it
>>133487147仲間がいるよ
>>133487034
fucking asshole
>>133487280
one of them is alread dead
Blackbeard is much more likable than Luffy
>>133487218
I think he means this. Not sure though.
>>133487312yohohohoho
>>133487357
yeah that's exactly what I was talking about
How is Kid considered strong? I'd consider Hawkins and even Apoo stronger, just by whhat we have seen.
>>133487316
Yeah, fucking monkey can't aprecciate good cherry pie.
>>133487312
How do you think he died?
>>133487410
>How do you think he died?nakamaga iru jane~
>>133487410
Kid's got a decent fruit and a decent crew, I'd imagine. Hawkins just seems like a push over for me.
If you was in One Piece world, would you like to be a big guy (like all these 3 - 4 meters tall niggas) or would you prefer to stay within real world human height?
>>133487316
>m-muh fate
>>133487584
Mihawk is a manlet at 6'6"
suppose it doesnt matter though as long as im not fodder
>>133487584
Tall all day everyday.
Whitebeard is my husbando
>He will never call you his 'son' and be proud of how powerful you've become
>>133487711
>Having Hulk Hogan as a husbando
>>133487943
>Not wanting Hulkamania to run wild on you
Scarecrow. Tin-man & Lion.
Emerald city Wizard of Oz/Vegapunk arc when?
>>133484969
He proved your wrong. You played, you lost. Now shut the fuck up, woman.
>>133488208
Doesn't Aokiji work for BB now?
In name only if nothing else.
BB is hot shit.
>>133488300
What? source?
>>133488133
How is Scratchmen a lion?
>>133488494
>What? source?
Speeeeeeeed reader.
Gimme 2 minutes I'll go find it and post it, might just be chapter numbers though.
>>133488542
Me again.
Chaper 720 Aokiji mentioned by Burgess as a new associate of BB's.
Chapter 793 Gorosei comments on Aokiji's new affiliation with the BBs.
Just pulled those of the wiki though, you might need to double check.
>>133488494
Apoo is known as the "Roar of the Sea"
>>133488494
>How is Scratchmen a lion?
Roar of the seas m8.
>>133482607
>watched
there's your problem
>>133488494
Roar of the sea, I'm guessing
>>133488618
Holy shit how did I miss that!
The revolutionary HQ are fucked.
>>133488883
>>133488738
>>133488693
Oh, I see. Yeah, it's just that, everything else being music related with him, made me think of said roar as some kind of loud music.
>>133486370
>that was never the argument
It was, you're just playing the semantics game like an autist
>>133489029
Well, yea, just like how Kidd isn't a Tin Logia. It's just that they have something related to the Wizard of Oz.
>>133489029
>Oh, I see. Yeah, it's just that, everything else being music related with him, made me think of said roar as some kind of loud music.
He could also just have some lion themed attack.
That'd be enough for me to buy it.
He's also a little cowardly as we saw on that New World Island with the boars.
>>133486370
>Akainu, Kizaru
>not villains
Are you serious? So you think everyone working for the government are good by default? Especially when we've learned time and time again that the WG is corrupt? It's pretty clear Oda wanted to create two main villains from both the WG side (Akainu) and Pirate side (Blackbeard), showing that there is good and evil on both sides. Nigga you sound almost as dumb and naive as OP civilians, except even worse since you're given more information than them as a reader.
>>133489471
>So you think everyone working for the government are good by default? Especially when we've learned time and time again that the WG is corrupt?
Nice strawman. Lucci works for the government but is a villain, plenty of Tenryubito are villainous, Wapol is a villain and so on. Akainu is a marine who just does his job, even if he does go way overboard.
Hell, he even chose at least one admiral (and most likely the other as well) who has a completely different view of justice to his own. He can barely be considered a bad person, let alone a full-blown villain.
>>133487316
Blackbeard is a big bitch.
is there a place to download viz digital volumes?
>>133489965
I miss Vizanon.
>>133489908
He killed several innocents in the name of Justice. Akainu got Fujitora because he's strong. Literally nothing else.
>>133489965
why dont anyone put the volumes on a safe place? Americans have no balls?
>>133489908
Nigga tried to kill his subordinate for telling people to stop fighting. And he's obviously not happy with the things Fujitora has done in Dressrosa, seeing how he exiled him from the marines until he brought back the heads of Luffy and Law. And mind you, that this is even with Akainu knowing that Luffy actually saved the country and its people.
>>133489960
One of the top 4 pirates alive, dude.
My bet is by the series is over he'll be 2nd after Luffy.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
Bitch or no bitch, he's winning.
>>133489908
>Akainu did nothing wrong
Negro, please.
He's the embodiment of everything that's wrong with WG, he's not a moustache twirling-type, but he's definitely evil (in the Hanna Arendt sort of way)
>>133489908
>literally commits mass genocide with bustercall
>not a villain
Are you legitimately retarded? Akainu is as much of a blind dog for the WG as Lucci was.
>>133490218
Are Akainu and Penguin linked somehow?
>>133489908
>He can barely be considered a bad person, let alone a full-blown villain.
what about when he destroyed a ship full of innocent people, killing all of them
what about when he melted a guy because he literally couldn't bring himself to fight anymore and wanted to go back to his family
>>133478912
I'm incredibly skeptical of these sources.
>>133489908
>Lucci works for the governmeng but is a villain
>Akainu is a marine who just does his job
Nigger, either you're retarded or this is a masterful ruse. Akainu literally murders countless innocents in the name of Justice. Lucci at least only kills people who shittalk the WG or go against it. Akainu kills everyone he wants.
>>133490364
well to be fair lucci also killed a bunch of hostages just so a group of thugs wouldn't have any bargaining power IIRC
How strong is current Lucci?
>below Doflamingo level
>Doflamingo level
>above Doflamingo below Admiral level
>Admiral level
>>133490409
That may have been an unintended consequence of that action, but it wasn't the reason he killed them. Being weak was worthy of death, according to Lucci.
>>133490409
Shit, that's true. But even then Lucci had a legit reason to do it. Akainu just blew up a ship on the off-chance of someone escaping.
>>133490472
Below Doffy.
Not even a Doffyfag but I think Doffy is going to remain as one of the stronger bosses of the timeskip for a while. Just like how Crocodile was way stronger than all the other bosses except Enel.
>>133490472
I don't think it matters.
Oda's shown us he's around but he'll never do anything relevant to the story again.
>>133490472
Measuring skills doesn't work like that. If you're asking in terms of how much damage he could do to Luffy, I'd say Lucci could do more than Doffy did. The fact that he's been reintroduced means he'll now be using haki + all his rokushiki techniques.
However if you're asking who's more destructive, overall, it's almost certainly still Doffy.
>>133490472
Considering Luffy had a trump against Croc and Enel while fighting them with the power levels at the time but took Doffy straight on at full strength, twice
I'd say right below Doffy level
Still couldn't stand to an Admiral
If he gets better control of 4th gear then he can take most characters on but it was slightly gimmicky
Just weird how the transition of him having immunity against greatly overpowered characters versus this happened
Sort of shows he's just on a strong Warlord tier atm but not exactly Yonko or Admiral
Sure is reddit in here.
>>133490754
Uh, sure, but what about Lucci ?
>>133487584
Can you still find clothes at that height or do you need everything tailor made?
We don't actually know anything about how he runs his shit.
All we know is he parties with Mihawk sometimes.
How is the Kidd crew gonna come at him?
How bad are they gonna fail?
>>133491006
>How bad are they gonna fail?
They wont. Law clearly claimed that new generation will rule the seas.
Oda didn't gave him those words for nothing.
>>133490948
wow totally misread that
Anons, are you true pir/a/tes?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-13/3-men-arrested-for-uploading-one-piece-chapter-to-english-website/.95349
>>133491222
It happens to the best of us.
>>133491099
You saw how old Whitebeard was till he stepped down. Kidd may just fail miserably but Shanks may decide to step down on his own or get taken out by someone else.
>>133488208
>He proved your wrong
he didnt. Neither of you know what a villain is
>>133489145
>you're just playing the semantics game
no i'm not, it isnt my problem you want an antagonist and a villain to be the same thing
>>133491752
You're retarded if you don't think Akainu or Kizaru aren't villains though.
>>133492094
shit, meant
>if you don't think Akainu or Kizaru are villains
>>133492154
What makes Akainu a villain? being overzealous? He's doing his job
Same with Kizaru though im curious of what makes you think Kizaru is a villain
>>133491006
They are going to succed just right after Shanks turns his back out of mercy.
Kid new Yonko, Luffy in crisis again, hates all four of them.
The thing that really is getting me scared about incoming arcs is that Luffy is against every 7 people from the worst generation at the same time (and of course 3 Yonko), and the Straw Hat Grand Fleet isn't even that Grand.
>>133491752
I just looked through the entire thread of this conversation and the whole crux of your argument is playing with semantics. If you restructure the meanings of "defeat" and "villain", you never have to be wrong.
Mixing that, plus your appeal to authority, meaning no authoritative figure can be wrong, you've totally insulated yourself from being challenged, which is not the same thing as being right.
>>133492243
Killing innocent family man, trying to kill coby.
Someone who kills people for no good reason is a villain. Sorry to break it to you. Oh, wait you were trolling the whole time.
>>133492243
>what makes you think Kizaru is a villain
Reread the chapter where Weevil is introduced.
I hope we don't waste a cover seeing Koshiro smiling politely at Zoro's bounty next week
>>133493122
We probably will, that or someone from Shell town. They'll probably be doing something different from the last time we saw them though.
>>133492398
>If you restructure the meanings of "defeat" and "villain", you never have to be wrong.
I havent minced words on anything I said. I said a villain cant beat Luffy. Someone ELSE assumed by villain I meant antagonist when I did, in fact, mean a villain. Villain and Antagonist are not synonyms and I shouldnt have to explain that
and no, Akainu or whoever you're talking about killing people does NOT make him a villain
Guys, what do you think about Space Logia? Sounds pretty retarded, but would looks awesome as fuck.
>>133492503
>Killing innocent family man, trying to kill coby.
that doesnt make him a villain if it's within his authority. They're a military operation and correct me if im wrong but I dont remember Akainu even being reprimanded for Coby. Not even mentioning the random marine
>>133492852
feel free to actually post the page you're talking about
>>133493243
A bit too abstract I think even though there's already the darkness logia. Space is mostly emptiness, it wouldn't have those stars and galaxies and shit. That's more Eternity some cosmic entity in Marvel comics I guess.
>>133469461
>gets
Penguin sucks tool
>>133493205
>Akainu or whoever you're talking about killing people does NOT make him a villain
Then what the fuck is your definition of a villain to you, if Akainu of all people isn't one?
>>133493193
I was hoping Oda would do a different order
>>133493297
When he doesn't give a fuck that Weevil is going around killing a lot of civilians as long as the niggas taking out Whitebeard's remnants who probably aren't even harming civilians in the first place.
So what was the last good Panda fuckup? I'm a little bummed I'll never see something as hilariously bad as this again
>>133493384
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/villain
>>133493324
I just think that would be awesome looking Logia's power, turning into black space with stars and planets. Not really a serious idea, since I can't even think any powers to it. Just a random thought.
>>133493446
Okay? So you're saying Akainu doesn't do bad things?
>>133493205
Yes, Akainu killing people does make him a villain. The only way you could sidestep this is if you were arguing from an appeal to authority. Him being employed to murder innocent people doesn't absolve him from having murdered innocent people.
And this is to say nothing of the fact that, as a reader, you know the government's goals in Ohara were self-protecting. The only possible way you could reason Akainu into being in the right is if you give the state full moral authority, which is exactly what you've been doing for this entire argument. Hence my point, insulating yourself from being wrong isn't the same as being right.
>>133493434
inaction makes him a villain? Do you think Garp is a villain too? He did nothing to stop a bunch of pregnant women from being slaughtered and he sure as shit didnt stop Ace from being executed
>>133493446
You done goofed.
>>133493466
did you only read the first definition?
everyone is a villain if you insist on being so broad
>>133493487
Except Garp is shown to have some sympathy against shit like that, and at least knows it's wrong. Kizaru is literally a sociopath when it comes to listening to WG's orders whether those orders are "unjust" or not. He has no sympathy towards anything and does "bad things" from the readers point of view, so yes I considered Kizaru a villain.
>>133493531
No. But even with all the definitions, Akainu does shitty things and opposes our main protagonist and everything he stands for. I still don't see your point.
>>133493205
>Villain and Antagonist are not synonyms and I shouldnt have to explain that
"Villain" and "antagonist" aren't synonyms, correct. But they also aren't mutually exclusive. This argument was dead in the water from the beginning, just because you didn't realize one character can fill both roles.
>>133493475
>Yes, Akainu killing people does make him a villain.
By that same logic, Sengoku, Garp, Smoker any marine that has ever executed a pirate is a villain
>The only way you could sidestep this is if you were arguing from an appeal to authority
or, again, the moral code in One Piece isnt the same as in the real world where jailtime is more standard and executing people isnt
we've already SEEN that this is okay in the story so perhaps stop judging character's actions on your own moral compass
Why does Oda love europe so much?
>>133493620
>Except Garp is shown to have some sympathy against shit like that, and at least knows it's wrong
how does that stop him from being a villain though? He still let it happen
>>133493718
No you fucking retard. It's that Akainu kills innocent people with no second thought that makes him genuinely fucking evil. Please don't tell me you're a hitler sympathizer?
>>133493668
>Akainu does shitty things and opposes our main protagonist
which is an antagonist, not a villain
>still don't see your point.
the point, which we've gone far far past, is that big people are shit
>>133493751
Are you retarded? So you really don't see a difference between a person like Garp vs. someone like Kizaru?
>>133493718
Akainu killed non-criminals (civilians and marines). About Borsalino being a villain, I'd say hes just too amoral to not be considered a bit villianous, but yeah, it's not really that clear with him.
>>133493686
>This argument was dead in the water from the beginning, just because you didn't realize one character can fill both roles.
not when I ask for villains and get listed nothing but antagonists it isnt
>>133493795
>which is an antagonist, not a villain
Check the fucking webster definition you linked you retarded nigger.
>>133493776
>It's that Akainu kills innocent people with no second thought
this is bullshit, there hasnt been a single time he's killed someone thoughtlessly
Hey guys, if I intentionally ignore any common morals that would make a character considered a villain, then he's not a villain! Ain't i smart
>>133493813
you really cant talk when you cant tell the difference between Black Beard and Akainu
>>133493894
I'm talking he doesn't hesitate to kill innocent people. I really hope you're trolling at this point, because you sound fucking dumb.
>>133493838
well it's insubordination for the marines and under orders for Ohara
that makes him shitty but not necessarily a villain. Kizaru being ambiguous is why I dont list him as a villain. He could be though, I just think he's neutral to everything
>>133493718
You won't get away with those semantics anymore. Akainu murdering innocent people is the issue, which is why we've been talking about Ohara. I said "innocent people" twice in my post and specifically am talking about Ohara. That means all those people you're trying to list as a distraction are irrelevant. Don't play stupid anymore.
Actually, reading you're second paragraph, I think you're really young, or really stupid. I briefly forgot the demography of this broad, and what day it is. Either way, it's a waste of time to argue with someone pulling the philosophy 101 "moral relativism" card.
>>133493960
>I'm talking he doesn't hesitate to kill innocent people.
how does that make him a villain? Hesitation has nothing to do with it
>>133493923
They have different morals and drives that make them do what they do, but they're both considered villains. So do you consider Caesar not villainous because he's doing it all in the name of science and isn't pirate like Blackbeard? Blackbeard just wants to get one piece and the only people we've seen him fight/kill are pirates too. What makes Blackbeard and Akainu so different in your eyes? Akainu commited genocide for fucking sakes. He wiped out an entire island for what? To cover up corrupt doings of the WG. How does that make what he's doing any better than Blackbeard?
>>133494047
read
>>133493718
you keep adding 'innocent' like it means anything. Seems like appealing to pathos to me
>>133494031
The ship with civilians at Ohara was his initiative. Sure, if he had asked the 5 stars, they would have agreed with him, but that makes no difference.
And how is dead by melting a proportional punishment for insubordination?
But I keep biting. w/e.
>>133494065
Just tell me your definition of villain than, you double nigger, because going by the webster definition of "villain" you linked, Akainu fits it. But you STILL fucking deny for whatever reason.
>>133479912
Nothing is equal to zoro anymore, not even mihawk.
>>133494167
>Sure, if he had asked the 5 stars, they would have agreed with him
>but that makes no difference.
it's like you arent even reading your own posts anymore. Instead of making excuses, why dont you read up on what a villain is and what an antagonist is
>>133494179
He's arguing for the sake of it, and because his internet pride will not let him admit he's wrong.
It could go on forever.
>>133494167
>proportional punishment
why does it need to be proportional? He's being killed for insubordination, why would you get stuck in little details like that?
>>133494109
Are you retarded?What did Blackbeard do that's considered villainous?Killed a pirate?Captured a pirate?This is stupid.
Post mink
>>133494337
I'm saying he IS a villain and so is Akainu, you retard. I'm asking what the difference between the two are.
>>133494360
Blackbeard feels more neutral evil, while Akainu feels more lawful evil.
>>133494401
Okay? But they're both evil.
>>133494435
Yea they are.
I'm not the guy you responded to though.
>>133494360
No,he is an antagonist,not a villain.Learn the fucking difference
>>133494109
>but they're both considered villains.
No. BlackBeard is in direct opposition to Luffy and hinders his progress by personally fucking Luffy up
Akainu is just doing his job and isnt particularly malevolent about it. Hence antagonist
>>133494355
Nope, we're too busy trying to prove that villain doesn't mean fuck all
>>133494539
I'm asking what the fucking difference is by your definition, and what makes Blackbeard a villain but Akainu just an antagonist.
>>133494552
Then by your definition none of the antagonists in one piece besides people that are actually aiming for one piece are considered villains? Again, asking the same question here, but you considered Caesar not villainous then?
Also,
>isnt particularly malevolent about it.
Please. pic related. Someone that's "just doing his job" describes Kizaru more than Akainu.
>>133494729
I wonder what Akainu's backstory will be like.
I know it'll be a tragedy fest. It has to be some serious shit for him to house all that anger.
Blackbeard's too, i'm sure it'll be neat.
Glad i'm so interested in these two characters.
>>133494552
>Akainu is just doing his job and isnt particularly malevolent about it. Hence antagonist
You're describing someone like Magellan, Hannybal, or pre-ts Kuzan with this statement. Not Akainu.
>>133494729
>Then by your definition none of the antagonists in one piece besides people that are actually aiming for one piece are considered villains?
No? I dont even know where you got that conclusion from.
Caesar is looking like he has a backstory incoming so i'd lean toward no
>Please. pic related. Someone that's "just doing his job" describes Kizaru more than Akainu.
your pic is illustrating for you the difference between a villain and an antagonist. Akainu is STILL just doing his job. Personal opinion on piracy doesnt change anything when it's in his job description
>>133494931
Do I need to include a dictionary definition every time I use an uncommon word? This whole argument seems to be fueled by people who dont know what specific words mean
>>133495064
>Caesar is looking like he has a backstory incoming so i'd lean toward no
So if Blackbeard has a sad backstory too then you won't consider him a villain?
>>133495064
>No? I dont even know where you got that conclusion from.
From your own post.
>>133494552
>No. BlackBeard is in direct opposition to Luffy and hinders his progress by personally fucking Luffy up
>>133495064
>Caesar is looking like he has a backstory incoming so i'd lean toward no
It's almost like you're saying Doffy wasn't a villain either.
>Someone is seriously trying to defend Akainu as not a bad guy
I mean goddamn how hard can you misread a kids comic? Even Oda would laugh at you.
It's like saying "Doffy did nothing wrong" and actually 100% believing it
>>133495064
>Caesar is looking like he has a backstory incoming so i'd lean toward no
Does that mean if Eneru comes back and had a sad backstory you wouldn't consider him a bad guy either?
Also, at what point in the manga was it indicated Caeser had a sad backstory?
>>133495064
>Caesar is looking like he has a backstory incoming so i'd lean toward no
Dio Brando confirmed for a pretty nice guy, he just had a sad backstory with an alcoholic father and a beaten mother.
I'll just copy and paste this from a discussion I was having with someone on One Piece based on a video one the series where some guy made comments I disagreed with:
>Okay his first issue is that it’s not as simple as Strawhats being “good” and marine’s/wg being “bad”.
>He says that the portrayal of good vs evil between the Marines and the Pirates is flawed because the Strawhats are our main characters and that they’re essentially incredibly selfless and benevolent/heroes while we commonly face corrupt/unjust Marines, but he doesn’t seem to mention that the majority of the villains we face in the series are pirates who are incredibly selfish and cause a lot of destruction while whenever we face bad marines or wg officials he simultaneously shows the good side of them.
The first villain we faced in the series was a bandit, after that it was Alvida where we met Coby who wanted to become a Marine, and after that it was Morgan.
>Yes Morgan was corrupt, yes he was a scumbag, yes Helmeppo was a little shit, but what we saw in that arc was how a morally corrupt leader under a system which gives people as much power as the current makeup as the Marines does, can twist justice into a tool of oppression and use it not only to control not only the populace but to make the Marines follow unlawful orders under pressure because they don’t have the same recourse a soldier in the real world would have like we see when Coby stands up to Akainu in Marineford (no Geneva convention yet) and while Helmeppo was bad, Oda made it a point to show that he was still capable of change and that it was the result of too much power and his terrible upbringing, Helmeppo is essentially a Celestial Dragon lite.
>>133495228
if he isnt evil for the sake of it, then no
>>133495449
>And then after the arc Oda makes it a point once again to show Coby join the Marines, and the little girl join the Marines as a cook, and show how happy the Marines were after they weren’t under the terror of Morgan to show how there’s still hope for the organization, and that it’s not just a bunch of tyrants.
>Also by joining a military organization they’re automatically bound by a lot of rules which isn’t inherently bad, but still Oda shows just how compromising it can be morally with them thanking Luffy at the end of the arc which breaks Marine code and how Luffy find that strange because his world view of freedom doesn’t have those same limitations.
>Not necessarily bad, just different.
And then after that we have three arcs of terrible pirate villains, and people like Zeff and Ging who while we may like, clearly did terrible things while being pirates, but Oda also uses that arc to show the value in rehabilitative justice rather than just damning people to their sins.
>And we meet Fullbody who while he’s a dick, i’d never call evil.
>And the yes while Nezumi is pretty scummy in Arlong Park, that still doesn’t change the fact that Marines do come to save the island from Arlong, a pretty terrible pirate (though they do get wrecked), plus we see Bellemere who was a great Marine and then in Lougetown we meet Smoker.
>There’s a constant balance between Marines being portrayed negatively and positively in the series, you can’t say that it’s not balanced because the strawhats are our mains (and i’ll get to them), plus pretty much the majority of the fodder pirate mooks we meet are pretty damn bad.
>>133495275
Blackbeard is set up to be in direct opposition
no one else is batshit and evil seemingly for the sake of it AND posed as Luffy's opposite
>>133495492
>And then after the arc Oda makes it a point once again to show Coby and the little girl join the Marines as a cook, and show how happy the Marines were after Morgan was disposed to show how there’s still hope for the organization, and that it’s not just a bunch of tyrants.
>Also by joining a military organization they’re automatically bound by a lot of rules which isn’t inherently bad, but still Oda shows just how compromising it can be morally with them thanking Luffy at the end of the arc which breaks Marine code and how Luffy find that strange because his world view of freedom doesn’t have those same limitations.
>Not necessarily bad, just different.
>And then after that we have three arcs of terrible pirate villains, and people like Zeff and Ging who while we may like, clearly did terrible things while being pirates, but Oda also uses that arc to show the value in rehabilitative justice rather than just damning people to their sins.
>And we meet Fullbody who while he’s a dick, i’d never call evil.
>And the yes while Nezumi is pretty scummy in Arlong Park, that still doesn’t change the fact that Marines do come to save the island from Arlong, a pretty terrible pirate (though they do get wrecked), plus we see Bellemere who was a great Marine and then in Lougetown we meet Smoker.
>There’s a constant balance between Marines being portrayed negatively and positively in the series, you can’t say that it’s not balanced because the strawhats are our mains (and i’ll get to them), plus pretty much the majority of the fodder pirate mooks we meet are pretty damn bad.
>And let’s get a few more things straight.
The WG represents balance and control, and the Marines who should only be concerned with protecting the citizens through fighting the pirates is the tool they use to maintain that control and commit evil acts in conjunction with the WG exclusive organizations, which is a point of contention at numerous points within the series.
>>133495328
yes because Doffy is Caesar
please define antagonist and villain so I can see what you think the differences are
>>133495374
bad guy=/=villain
Akainu being an incredibly shitty character doesnt make him a villain
>>133493742
Why do weebs love Japan so much?
>>133495416
>Does that mean if Eneru comes back and had a sad backstory you wouldn't consider him a bad guy either?
no
>at what point in the manga was it indicated Caeser had a sad backstory?
the fact that he's still around. I'm thinking we'll learn more soon so im not pinning caesar as one or the other just yet
>>133495537
So you're saying the only villain in One Piece is Blackbeard right?
>>133495570
For example let’s look at the Gorosei, the first time we meet them what are they talking about?
Balance
The second time we see them?
Balance.
When we see them in the flashback to Ohara?
Balance.
They regret having to do what they have to do to Ohara, they don’t like seeing the waste of knowledge, they let refugee boats leave, they appreciate Clover but they can’t let that information get out.
Now we can ask ourselves why and some people believe it’s because they’re covering up evil acts, and I think that’s certainly a possibility, but based on what Rayleigh said to the crew about the lost history, it’s clear to me that there’s probably a good reason to want to cover this all up in relation to the safety of the world, and that’s only supported imo by Sengoku’s support of it, who’s main priority even if if it was muddled has been the protection of the citizens and the fact that the Nefertari’s who by all means are a good family joined up with the WG and went on to protect the poneglyph’s.
>>133495604
>Akainu being an incredibly shitty character doesnt make him a villain
But he is a bad guy and a villain
>>133495642
>no
Then you're retarded
>the fact that he's still around.
He's still around because he's a lynchpin for Kaido, not because he has relevance to the Straw Hats or has a tragic past
>>133495696
But this is where the problem arises, the Gorosei want balance at the expense of human rights and the pursuit of knowledge while Clover believed it was important for this information to come out so the world could come to their own conclusion on it which they can’t have, and the ability to choose is integral to Luffy’s belief system which shows a point of conflict.
And they don’t only want to maintain balance they want to maintain the status qou, which means protecting the Celestial Dragons and maintaining a constant cold war between the Marines and the Pirates, which is one of the reasons why Marineford was such a big deal, because they actually made the risky move of trying to kill Whitebeard.
And the conflict of interest comes into play when we see them try to cover up the escape from Impel Down and Sengoku can’t believe it, because they’re more interested in maintaining their facade and balance rather than actually protecting the citizens, which is also a conflict of interest between Marines like Coby an Sengoku and Marines like Akainu and Onigumo who are more concerned with eradication, which also puts Akainu at odds with the Gorosei because he wants to upset that balance in the name of extremism.
>>133494147
Because it was unjust? Served no noble purpose, and even if it had, as in the bombing of civilians in real life, it would still be an act of villainy perpetrated by villains.
>>133495730
And then on the pirate side while Luffy’s conviction and belief in determining your own fate and the importance of freedom promoted as a positive ideal generally, it’s still not pointed out as the clearly superior means of running the world, good side to the order of the marines.
It’s commonly pointed out in the series as selfish, Luffy is selfish, yes he puts himself on the line for other people but it’s based more on what he wants at the time rather than a personal belief in a moral compass all should follow, which is why he can say things like understanding why someone would destroy an island over meet or work perform actions like breaking into Impel Down and participating in freeing criminals who he knows can be pretty terrible.
And I don’t need to go into the Hannyabal speech but you can google it if you want to see it.
At his core Luffy is meant to be seen as a combatant to tyranny/oppression hence why the majority of his are tyrannical, and as a combatant of of dogmatic ideals that lock people down in their ways (like Bellamy being stuck in his death wish this arc) and inhibit free thought like racism.
But not necessarily as the 100% total right way to live or do things, ideas on the marine’s side are promoted positively like that as well.
>>133495774
And then let’s not forget Blackbeard, he represents the extreme side of the pirating side of the world, unfettered chaos and darkness, almost amoral in a sense.
Because in Blackbeards view since there’s no one right answer to questions of right and wrong (hence him stomping down Hannybal during his speech and his presence as the third party in the Marineford which puts him at odds with all sides), the only thing to do is whatever the fuck you want, and this extends to his personal relationships as well which we see in his killing of Thatch which is an action Luffy would never commit.
So while Luffy is more on the side of freedom in terms of thought and personal rights and determining your own fate.
Blackbeard is more of a complete divorce from moral responsibility on any level, purely driven by desire (though Luffy does edge towards that such as in Impel Down which is a point Oda is trying to make).
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This was all I had written so far.
>>133495692
am I forgetting someone?
>>133495768
>Because it was unjust
by who's fucking standard? OP canonically has different brands of justice
things happening in real life have no bearing on this
Does anyone have the Luffy Hulk buster gif?
>>133496091
>things happening in real life have no bearing on this
Of course they do. You're not going to create a new system of morals based on any given work of fiction with which to judge it. Killing innocent people is amoral, and is an act of villainy pretty much anywhere including in One Piece.
Bored? Come on in.
http://original.livestream.com/thisfinetemperedstream
We playin' Amazon Lily.
>>133496750
Is that the guy who had a disturbing obsession with lewd Robin/Chopper?
>>133496223
this whole post is personal opinion
Oda makes a point of Marines having different brands of justice.
http://strawpoll.me/5999307
Let's do this
>>133496884
you called?
>tfw no doujin called Hard Cock Days
>>133496884
Who isn't obsessed with lewd Robin?
Chopper is just nice bonus.
>>133497056
What's it about and who's the focus?Writefag offering some help
>>133497079
Any idea who is the artist of this picture?
>>133488133
It's a stretch but
>Oars = Oz
>Kaidou has many features of whatever species Oars was
>Kaidou = the wizard of Oz
who's Dorothy? Bonney?
>>133497333
Mosha...
Whoever I get is best boy/girl
>>133469461
fuck all of you and your forced stupid meme
hope you die soon and in a terrible agony
fucktards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0jxpTPNbhc
I finally found it.
>>133495328
I hope Ceaser isn't redeemed but gets Stockholmed into the crew.
>>133497371
Dorothy is luffy. Duh.
>>133497333
>not knowing about MIsha
rip best lewd weekly jump fanartist
>>133485695
Ceaser Clown
>>133495774
>At his core Luffy is meant to be seen as a combatant to tyranny/oppression hence why the majority of his are tyrannical
Luffy pretty much inherited Whitebeard's will, although I can't see him forgiving Teach. He believes in freedom and in the bonds he made over time, that was cemented when Luffy said he'd make Fishmen Island his turf.But we all know he will destroy it.
>>133498905
Rolling for next character death
>>133500396
>Luffy pretty much inherited Whitebeard's will,
But Luffy isn't about making a family. In fact Whitebeard didn't even give a shit about One Piece. That's totally against Luffy
>>133501508
Oda won't kill 50% of SH boob mass.
We got 4 nakamas in East Blue
Zoro
Nami
Usopp
Sanji
Snd we got 4 nakamas in the grand line
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
Maybe is just my autism but do you think we will get 4 more nakamas in new world
I think the next nakama will be a girl just because if you count luffy the order has been
guy
guy
girl
guy
guy
girl
guy
guy
>>133499750
>mfw Caesar Clown develops some kind of Master/Slave relationship with Sanji
>S&M in One Piece confirmed.
Now this is a new nakama theory I can get behind!
>>133503403
I agree. At least ten won't cut it. We know Jinbe's coming, and it's likely we'll get Kin'emon, too. At least I feel he could join.
>>13350340
I think you forgot chopper though.
>guy Luffy
>guy Zoro
>girl Nami
>guy Ussop
>guy Sanji
guy Chopper
>girl Robin
>guy Franky
>guy Brook
>>133498905
Rolling for confirmed gay
I really want this to happen now.
http://imgur.com/gallery/busEhuM/new
>>133503983
rolling again
>>133504009
>Barolemeo
Sounds about right.
>>133503998
you know this is an image board, right?
>>133498905
This character will be fucked by minks.
>>133504095
the image was above 4 mb
>>133504122
he will force the mink girls to attend to him
>>133503730
oh yeah, what the hell was i thinking, but i found another pathern
East blue
>guy Zoro
>girl Nami
>guy Ussop
>guy Sanji
and it repeats in the grand line
guy Chopper
>girl Robin
>guy Franky
>guy Brook
so the next nakama should be a guy, probably Jinbei like>>133503644 said
and then we will get another girl
It's not a question of whether or not she's alive, it's a question of WHEN SHE WILL COME BACK
>>133497056
Is there a doujin where one of the characters uses CoA on their dick?
>>133498905
Last 4 digits becomes canon
>>133504920
>Bon-chan/no one
It's okay, he's still a bro.
>>133498905
This character will fuck Luffy
>>133505253
rolling again
>>133505285
Kuma's paw powers actually fuck you in a split second, the speed is so great it blasts you into the sky.
I love moments like these where Luffy's all pride and boastful about his crew, and vice versa. It's like he's showing off his kids or something.
will chopper ever be like this again? hes been too "cute" post time skip, he hasnt really been in any fights. (except for that 1 fishman, and even then he was being cute in the fight)
I feel like he degraded as a character
>>133506177
He's got that South Park Canadian-looking Kung Fu point now, maybe he'll have to dip into that pretty soon here.
I hope mangastream release schedule doesn't get affected by panda's wreckage
>>133506177
>even then he was being cute in the fight
How so? And regardless, how is being cute degrading as a character? His resolve for doctoring is as strong as ever.
>>133506610
he was doing his stupid dance in monster form.
all he does post skip is act naive or scared, pretty much the only screen time he's gotten has been with the annoying kids in punk hazard
>>133506546
It won't they have their own scanlators. I'm glad mangapanda will now die though because their translations suck.
>>133506846
Don't hate on the scanlator that gave us Admiral Maynard and the PAIN Sabo and Issho's Victory pls
>>133506846
>I'm glad the group that secretly provided early raws to the whole world was shut down because I didn't like their scans.
You better hope all these other groups weren't just leeching off panda's raws.
>>133507205
I would say neither Powermanga nor Mangastream are using Panda raws based on their quality contrast. But that anon clearly doesn't read any other manga so he doesn't care. It's a strong loss for a lot of other unrelated series. And I would guess Imperial Scans closure is no coincidence, R.I.P. TerraFormars
>>133506722
>he was doing his stupid dance in monster form
Cause he can control his monster form now.
>all he does post skip is act naive or scared,
like how he acts pre-timeskip when it's not crunch time? Both in PH and FI he gets serious when he has to just like in pre-ts.
>>133506177
I was hoping Zou would be the arc to get Chopper into gear with the Minks and such but it looks like it may be a breather arc before they go and 'rescue' Sanji.
Potential wasted. Maybe Kaidou's beast army will deliver.
>>133507307
>Panda raws based on their quality contrast
The quality in contrast is due to the fact that pandashit has shitty cleaners. This has nothing to do with raw providers.
>>133507307
I'm glad to hear that but I still consider it a heavy loss for english speaking one piece readers.
It may have been the lowest quality translation, but it was also very dedicated, very persistent, very reliable, and whether any anon likes it or not gave us a lot of entertainment and a lot of the greatest moments since it began publishing were not fucked up and simply great moments in the manga instead.
Any time a scan group dies it is a blow, not a boon, because it's one less access point.
The end of mangapanda should not be celebrated, it's callous ignorance to partake.
>>133507441
Yeah I'm not really following the excitement over Panda dying either. If nothing else they got shit out super early. You can wait and read something else if you don't like them, I don't get the personal offense people took to Panda and why they're acting like this means a better scanlator will magically fill their place.
MangaPanda provided the early raws.
MangaPanda also provided shitty scans.
But the fact that it provided the raws overshadows its shitty scans, it intentionally allowed other groups to use its raws to make better scans than it did.
This means that MangaPanda was overall very good.
>>133497371
Kaido is Dorothy
>fell from the sky
>most likely leading the 3 on an adventure, because there's no way they just walk away from Kaido
The Wizard is a fraud, which makes me think Buggy
>>133507605
The wizard was a legendary hero who did what he did to fend off great and powerful evil that he otherwise could never hope to match.
>it intentionally allowed other groups to use its raws to make better scans than it did.
And those other groups were also shit.
>>133507583
But mangastream get their raws from elsewhere.
>>133507696
Do you have citation as to which groups used MangaPanda's raws?
We will find out real fast if mangastream was one of them or not.
>>133507583
>MangaPanda provided the early raws.
What are you talking about? Other scanlating groups have other raw providers. Mangapanda is a scanlating group not a raw provider. The chinks that got arrested provide to other groups as well, not just Mangapanda.
>>133506177
Reread PH.
>>133507726
Mangareader?
>>133507441
>>133507515
Personally I'm glad mangapanda is taking a hit because there are way too many times when their shitty translations have actually caused misinformation to spread throughout english speaking readers. That's its biggest problem. And because they're always out the earliest, a lot of people read theirs first, and sometimes only theirs.
>>133507828
Mangareader just hosts mangapanda's scanlations. Mangareader is not a scanlation group.
>>133507845
well an idiot who only reads mangapanda shouldnt be in the conversation in the first place. its like anime onlys actualy trying to talk about the story. they are just second rate, nothing valuable comes out of their mouth
>>133508671
>who only reads
I try to read as many translations as possible though. Now there's one less possible. All the scan groups have made and continue to make critical errors in their translations, none can be trusted blindly. I agree that MangaPanda has made the most, but I don't agree that it's good that I can't use its translations anymore, since they'll be gone now.
Is there a mangaka lazier than Oda?
>>133509277
Are you asking for the chickenscratch shit?
"There are adults who kill other people for justice. There are children who see that. One Piece will continue on for quite some time... all the while hoping for world peace."
-Eiichiro Oda. WSJ. October 2001.
>>133495489
>Killing people is ok
Murican detetected. don't you have a school to shoot up?
>>133509277
Fukken KUBO.
Hands down.
Dosent even bother to draw backgrounds. and builds fights back to front.
>Make a villan that can only be defeated by 1 speciffic technique
>Character just so happens to have said technique
>>133509782
everyone already knows bleach is garbage, so they dont expect much from it.
>>133500396
>tfw a D. is as strong as much people's will they inherited
I was rereading water 7 and moments like this make me wish paulie had joined the crew
>>133511212
Paulie is too similar to Sanji. Franky is 100 times more intresting.
>>133511212
There would be one too many blonds in the crew.
>>133511411
Not to mention too much smoke, the crew would develop lung cancer before they reached Raftel
Why did franky change so much? He would never fight dirty now a days, as we clearly saw by his manly fight with senor where he didnt even attempt to dodge
>>133511631
I think Franky refused to fight dirty against Senior Pink out of a respect for him personally, and less out of a refusal to fight dirty period.
>>133511631
Well he was fighting a standup guy. Senor Pink and Franky had mutal respect for each other unlike your pic related fight.
>>133509782
>Make a villan that can only be defeated by 1 speciffic technique
>Every character in the new world just so happens to have said technique
Yeah,Kubo is a hack.Oda is just a lazy faggot.
>>133511668
At first I thought they were just competing to win over the crowd but that in the process they won over each other and it transformed into that.
>>133512191
>At first I thought they were just competing to win over the crowd but that in the process they won over each other
>>133469461
I had a dream about Penguin last night. You are to blame :Pi was warm and had to cuddle with him cause he had warm heart-pirates themed onesie pajamas
>>133495604
asshole =/= shitty character
Do you guys think there will be more arcs than
>Zou
>Wano
>Whole Cake Island
>Final War
>Raftel
What else could Oda possibly want to put in story?
>>133511840
Good to see that you weren't paying attention.
>>133512548
Elbaf. One of the most hyped arcs. That's a given.
>>133512548
Elbaf, Baltigo, Mariejois, and some people think Don Chinjao's country, Kano, is also gonna show up.
>>133512591
>>133512593Elbaf sounds like it would be a boring arc.
>>133511840
>Make a villan that can only be defeated by 1 speciffic technique
What?
>>133511840
The first green text doesn't even make sense. Who are you talking about?
>>133507658
Luffy ?
>>133512548
Elbaf for sure. I really want there to be an Emerald City arc somewhere in there too.
>>133512646
Why? We don't even know much about it except the giants.
>>133512646
You sound like you'd be a boring arc
>Thought Zou will be Skypiea 2.0
>Thought Zou will be furry arc
>Thought Zou will be Sanji arc
>Thought Zou will be Chopper arc
My expectations for Zou keeps on changing.
>>133512693
An island of giants just doesn't sound very interesting. There would probably be information about the void century there though. If it was combined with Big Mom or Kaido then I would be more interested.
>>133512548
A return to fishman, perhaps?
I thought there was something left open, what with the Noah and that vision of Luffy destroying fishman island.
>>133511631
Your memory must be pretty shitty. Remember how Franky got into the factory? Hint: bottom of this page
Best pairing! Incredible chemistry in the manga and great doujins!
>>133498905
roll for Kaku
>>133512818
It'd bd an adventure arc. Plus the possibilitynof Uranus and the great serpent thatvdrenches shit in blood or whatever. It'd be great.
I just can't wait to see them again.
Probably my favourite company after Mugivara's team
>>133512913
damn this woman is huge
she's like twice Franky's size
>>133513342
She's like 10 times big if we're talking about volume.
>>133498905
I will give this character a hug, share some coffee or something, and talk about places we've traveled to.
>>133512913
>I'm impressed you're still in one piece..!!
>>133513180
Is Spandex still ploting to kill Rob and the rest of the CP9?
>>133514027
he'd like to but lucci is his superior now
>>133512548
>>Final War
Worst meme, seriously hope this is never an actual thing.
>>133514090
>meme
kill yourself
>>133514090
Nigger, what ? This is bait, right ?
>>133514090
It will happen, most likely at Masriejois, so it is the downfall of WG, destruction of said city, and FI (fulfiling the profecy of that noire mermaid)
>>133473358
sanji has done decently enough
gin, an arlong first mate, mr. 2, that ramen cook on the train, that guy who looked like him, all those trannys, that giant fishman, uh, vergo i think
>>133514339
Jabra?
>>133487316
I like Luffy abit more, maybe just because we've seen more of him.
Will Shiki appear in the manga? I hope so. We need more big timer from Roger's generation
>>133514132
Here's a list of stories where "final wars" have been a good idea
>
>>133514788
It doesnt matter about the track record of final wars in other stories, theres a final war happening, he's said so
>>133514813
By he, I mean Oda
>>133507345
We still haven't seen the arc yet though. We're currently in the epilogue.
>>133514788
Fucker, who gives a shit as to what you think ? Fact is, there is going to be a Final War, whether your high horse ass likes it or not.
>>133514813
>>133515092
Oda never said anything about a final war, stop twisting his words.
I don't understand why people believe Luffy cannot lose to Blackbeard in a fight.
Hao easily beat Yoh in Shaman King despite Yoh being the protagonist an Blackbeard is a lot like Hao.
Everyone believed Yoh would somehow win the fight because he was the protagonist too.
>>133504363
Actually there is a pattern. It's just that it goes a little bit more detailed.
It's a guy, a woman with a mysterious past who betrays the crew, a ship upgrade and someone Luffy said he wanted at the beginning of the series.
Zoro and Chopper are the guys, Nami and Robin are the women, Usopp and Franky are the ship upgraders and Sanji the chef and Brook the musician are the crew members Luffy wanted from the beginning. So if we assume Jimbei is the guy, we should keep on the lookout for any girls in the future with unknown pasts
>>133515220
If Doffy says it's happening, it's happening.
>>133515220
Another translation since you're definitely going to be anal about mangareader. Would post raw if I had it and could read moon. But I can't.
>>133515331
But then what would be the ship upgrade? And is Luffy still lacking something he wanted before?
>>133515423
>>133515364
To be totally honest, Fujitora fucked up big time when he waited those two days.
>>133515364
>>133515423
>>133515490
I guess there's going to be two wars since Doffy and Whitebeard are talking about different things.
>>133515220
>>133515483
Would say Fuji never saw this coming ?
>>133515548
The title for Pirate King will always be a battle. But it can still be considred a final battle.
>>133515548
They're both talking about the final battle for Pirate King, just in different ways
>>133515483
>But then what would be the ship upgrade?
Maybe a pilot who can make the ship fly? Maybe an frontiersman who can make the ship go underwater on its own. Maybe some kind of armory dude who can make a fuckhuge attachment to the Sunny that creates a fucking battleship perfect for a leader of a Grand Fleet. There's plenty of options
>And is Luffy still lacking something he wanted before?
Honestly that part is the only thing messing up the theory
>>133515596
One is about finding One Piece, the other is about the consequences of finding it. It is literally impossible for them to be the same thing.
>>133515558
More like.
Law was a warlord so he he had some knowledge of the marine's movements.
>>133515756
I just tried to highlight all the dialogue that contained the words "War" or "Battle" in case that ginormous speedreader skipped over a croped image. I wouldn't put it past him. I did drop the ball on the Doffy speech though.
>>133515816
Fair enough good anon.
>>133515816
Yet you only posted one image that even remotely implied an actual war (which will engulf the world, not just Mariejois/Raftel/wherever the crew happens to be). Hell, that war already fucking exists.
>>133516209
Nigger, the actual words that the main faggot used was
>Oda never said anything about a final war, stop twisting his words.
I showed you two examples of 2 Final Wars happening. One is the War to become Pirate King. The other is the War that will happen once someone becomes Pirate King.
>>133516305
>there are two final wars
Jesus Burgess.
Also, that was clearly talking about Oda's interview (where he actually implied the final arc would be something that puts a war arc to shame).
>>133516377
Maybe but that doesn't mean we can't use actual dialogue from actual characters from the actual manga where the actual war takes place.
>>133465917
Get ready for flash back the moment the chapter is out
>>133501631
That's because Luffy also inherited Roger's will, since the start of the series.
There was a 7.0 earthquake in Japan, O-Oda is ok guys, right?
>>133517168
>magnitude 7
>Japan
Of course he's fucking fine.
>>133517168
>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34816292
If that's the one you're talking about, he should be fine. Even if a DF user would be fine against a 30cm Tsunami. Unless it was Chopper.
Sssssh, Nami is sleeping
>>133518085
>Nami throughout this chapter
>>133518085
NAMI PLEASES OLD RAMS FOR MONEY OHOHOHO
>>133518199
Absalom please
>>133517168
Oda intoduced Abdullah and Jeet and stated they did terrorist incident against WG. (clearly related to our word's 9/11)
Will he somehow relate to yesterdays french affair?
>>133517645
please die
>>133495571
Wikifag, you probably didn't even read the wiki article for Dressrosa that goes over Doffy's PTSD
>>133511840
>Make a villan that can only be defeated by 1 speciffic technique
Who are you talking about?
Chapter next week?
>>133466125
>>133466303
There is a holiday. And an early chapter... in theory. Who knows how things will go without Shitpanda.
>>133521098
Yes, on thursday if you want to trust Mangastream
>>133512945
been sitting here thinking about it. Have warmed up to it anon.
>>133498905
Roll for the next to receive the straw hat
>>133511261
>Paulie is too similar to Sanji
Paulie is anti-sanji
>>133509634
I bet you think Light Yagami was a villain.
>>133511537
maybe that's what happened to roger
WAS MORIA AWARE OF ZOU AND IF SO WAS HE TRYING TO IMITATE THE ANIMALS STRENGTH WITH ZOMBIES?!?
>lost fight to kaido on the elephants back
>>133518199
The minks are thirsty
>>133498905
rolllin
Can current Sanji defeat pre-timeskip Moria in 1vs1 fight?
>>133523414
No, cause current Sanji is dead.
>>133523414
As long as he knows about Moriah's shadow stealing ability, pre-timeskip Sanji would win 1vs1.
>>133523414
Moria is a total shitter in Thriller Bark so yeah
he wouldn't have been even close to Crocodile's difficulty if he didn't have Oars
>>133481343
The best arc made you quit? Why are you even still here shitposting? Fuck off back to Fairy Tail
>>133506846
Panda is dying? What did I miss?
>>133525414
It got raided? Damn.
>>133525414
wow.
>>133525414
When this broke people seemed to think it was hilarious.
Personally I want as many people scanlating OP as possible.
I'm a little surprised it's such a big deal too.
There isn't any money in it, is there?
>>133469822
>>133469681
Way to fundamentally misunderstand blueno's fruit. He doesn't create a door between two locations, he creates a door to a space that lets him see and move around the existing world but isnt physically there. His ability is not a portal gun. If he wanted to open a door to the sun he would have to physically travel to the sun.
>>133525414
Mangapanda shutting down also translates to mangareader shutting down unless they find another site to steal from.
>>133525699
How did the travel to where robin was on the puffing tom? That was between two locations.
>>133496989
Go back to Arlong Park you degenerate. I remember you there you fuck, you got banned once for talking about Reindeer dick like the fag you are.
>>133525414
Mangapanda feel the pain of shuesha's vicotry!
>>133498905
come on come on roll me a good'n
>>133525414
But if they make a big deal like this, won't other sites be in danger?
You know, like the GOOD ones?
>>133525699
>>133525826
Found the page. He is clearly traveling between 2 locations and not just going there physically in his own extra dimension.
>>133525956
What the hell?
>>133526024
I remember when onemanga shut down. There was a similar thing going on back then but it didn't effect any other sites afaik.
>>133525826
>>133526036
>Enter door universe
>Catch up to the train with soru + geppo
>Exit door universe
>>133526041
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kaido_King_of_the_Beasts/Hall_of_Mangapanda
Does anyone know any sites with good translations besides Manga Stream? MS is my usual place, but it takes down past pages.
Why doesnt the manga industry do a proper paid subscription service for the west? Crunchyroll has been a huge success for generating revenue with western audiences and yet they refuse to offer a manga alternative for live releases besides illegal uploads.
>>133526287
Because free sites offer the same thing.
>>133526365
>implying I wouldn't pay for a super clean raw scan containing a professional official translation and no giant images of pandas blocking the page
>>133526102
never change mangapanda
oh wait
>>133526394
I'm sure people will do it anon. But apparently the market is not profitable enough for them to actually do it. I'm not into anime so I don't know the free sites that exist but there are plenty of sites that do a good enough job for the manga part.
>>133526464
Incest doujins where?
>>133469461
These characters have been forever ruined to me thanks to you.
>>133526102
Thanks for providing me some minutes of laugh.
>>133469461
Times coming up for them to prove their worth.
Lotta hype around those meek little dudes now.
>>133526287
Well we did have american jump, but the only reason I subscribed to that was for the physical copies. When they went online I ended my subscription because I could already read on line for free. Honestly, If online manga piracy is permanently ended I'll just wait for the full volumes to come out rather than spend money to read it online before hand. I'm already going to buy them, why spend twice the money for the same result?
>>133526630
Maybe if you were better at appreciating Penguin you would feel differently.
>>133510432
Well, it's actually enjoyable as a nekketsu, what do you want to see when reading this kind of stuff ?
Fighting, cool techniques and charismatic characters.
Having a good scenario to back it up is a nice additionas long as it doesn't go the naruto way, but it totally isn't needed.
I mean, look at dragon ball.
So i guess Bleach does its job.
>>133527868
noobfag here, what does nekketsu mean?
>>133528011
Do a bit of research dude...
Oh, well, have a bit of spoonfeed.
It means something along the lines of "boiling blood"
It's a kind of manga where the mc is incredibly stronger than the average guy, gets back up and stronger when defeated, pulls out new techniques just as the right moment and some other shit like that.
Bleach is one, Dragon Ball is one, Naruto is one, One piece is one, Hunter x Hunter is one. But that also applies to manga that happen in the real world, like ones about sport, like Captain Tsubasa or Kuroko's Basket.
If anyone can formulate this better, feel free to do so, I should be asleep since a while.
>>133528184
Then as a Nekketsu, doesnt it still suck comparatively to its peers? All the examples you mentioned arent as shitty as what Bleach's become.
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