Netflix is looking to create its own anime and plan to drop five billion dollers into it all. What's going to happen?
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>>133395723
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>>133395723
>Five billion
If they make 20 13-episode series with that budget, we might get something approaching the quality of Naruto.
>>133396018
Umm bro that's a lot of money. Look up how much an anime costs to make.
>>133396018
Naruto was terrible quality though.
Teekyuu 1.0: You Can (Not) Play Tennis
>>133395723
>one anime
>five billion
I would pay to see that regardless of actual content
I'm pretty sure Netflix could outspend any anime studio.
>>133396075
Exactly.
>>133396055
That would be $250 million per series. An average American cartoon costs about $500,000 per episode, or $100 million for a 10 episode season.
>>133395723
>five billion
Source? I'd love to see what Netflix would produce. It will probably have lots of 3DCG.
>>133396285
That's 90% because of voice actors being jews though, wouldn't happen with anime.
somehow it will still be full of QUALITY
>>133396300
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kMK-aE2h0Sc
First vid I found of some fuck talking about it.
It will be shit but not in an enjoyable way like Nippon's but in a cringeworthy out-of-touch-with-its-audience Hollywood way
>>133396429
>5 billion on content
Then that could be anything from the main series to other merchandise like OVA, figma and toiletries.
>>133395723
I think they could get some talented people. Sense8 was pretty meh but other than that Netflix has done some fantastic original programming.
Whatever they do though Kevin Spacey must play the bad guy.
>>133396332
Actually, no. Most VAs aren't unionized. They spend that money on animators. Lots and lots of animators.
>>133396513
I don't think you understand. It's not going to be a bunch of noobs making anime. They're most likely going to hire company's that already make anime to do it but they get full rights to the show.
Oh what, is the TV bubble about to burst and all the other Western degenerates are jumping our bandwagon
I'm surprised they didn't start pushing loli toons sooner
>>133396647
You don't need to be in a union to jew, imagine how fucked The Simpsons would be if Homer's VA left, no one would watch it. That's why long running western cartoons are expensive as fuck.
>>133396596
Would Prison School or Rainbow be the anime version of OITNB?
What if Netflix adapts things into anime? Videogames, manga, LN, western novels. This is huge.
>>133396174
Adam Sandler's shit movies usually amount to that much budget. And he always makes it right back regardless of critical panning. What's his secret?
>>133396712
its not just that, the main simpsons va negotiate as a group from memory, like the actors from friends did.
the show is literally fucked if they don't meet their demands
>>133396671
Your overthinking things. I'll explaine it to you like you're a baby. Netflix watches crunchyroll. Netflix watches as crunchyroll makes money of anime fans worldwide. Netflix thinks ohh maybe there is money to be made here? Netflix starts making anime.
Some weab will try to make a Netflix and chill joke, but we all know he isn't getting laid.
>$5 billion
>over 10% of its market cap
>on one series
I'd like a source
>>133396790
I don't understand
Will it be one-cour?
What makes an anime an anime?
>>133396869
Japanese art, japanese jokes, japanese VA.
>>133396869
Japanese director
>>133396826
This is old shit, cant you fags use google
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/3/9665844/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-anime-bollywood-tv
>>133396712
Most VAs aren't making big bucks, seriously. Some of them are in Unions, which lets them use their real names in big-name productions like video games or animated movies. But cartoon series VAs tend not to make a lot more than your average entry-level college graduate, and they don't see residuals from their acting. Animators can and do cost an arm and a leg for cartoons like Regular Show, Adventure Time, and Steven Universe. Like, a good animator straight out of college can be making $54,000 to start and that number can get a lot higher for lead animators. VAs on the other hand tend to make about $30,000 a year for new series main characters, and that's assuming a series with at least 26 episodes produced annually. Their pay increases as the series gets more successful or more episodes get made, but if you're just a one-shot project like most of these anime will be the VAs will be a smaller proportion of the cost than the animation.
>>133396826
Lol you don't know how Money works do you? Also look it up yourself you have the Internet don't you.
So instead of cute girls, blue skies and panty shots, it's loud explosions, dead terrorists and U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!
0/10 will not watch, I hope no-one else does either and we successfully organize a mass boycott
>>133395723
benu tenu
>>133395723
>five billion dollers
how much is that in real money?
How many times will we have this thread?
>>133397027
19583750000.00 shekels
>>133396869art style
The idea that anime needs to be Japanese is an outdated concept that only weebs use to be pretentious.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just inject a few studios with $$ and have them do as they would normally be doing while securing rights to stream said content they make- or is this going to be Netflix-exclusive shit?
>>133397078
You're a dolt if you don't get the difference in style between western and Japanese animation, it's not just the art style.
>>133397067
Don't you mean one dragon egg and a army of unsullied.
>>133397078
By that logic Panty and stocking isn't anime. Or most Yuasa shows
>>133397103
What's the point of it not being exclusive?
What Japan needs is to be less homogeneous, hopefully the Netflix series promotes gay and black shit through the roof
>Toonami belong in /co/
This garbage belong in /co/ too fuck off with this already, normalfags.
>>133396953
That source says 5 billion on all its new content not one series like the OP says.
>>133396974
>Lol you don't know how Money works do you?
>Lol
What are you getting at?
Also just a heads up you two, "dood look it up fag" doesn't work in real debates.
>>133397250
>This garbage belong in /co/
When someone says it wants to produce anime rather than cartoons I think it pretty much belongs in /a/.
I hope they make the Simpsons, it is one of my favourite animes
>>133397155
No shit, sherlock. The average person doesn't look for something like P&S when they want anime. The actual definitions we see in dictionaries make much more sense.
>>133397274
Hey bro...... This isn't a debate. And I told you to look it up because you are currently using a computer.
>>133397197
As if anime doesn't get a bad enough rap as it is already, you want it to legitimately promote gays and niggers? Fuck you Americunt.
>>133397274
>That source says 5 billion on all its new content not one series like the OP says.
Then I guess OP is a faggot who baited everyone
>>133396980
>it's loud explosions, dead terrorists and U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!
How did you make that assumption? What if the CEO of Netflix is a huge weaboo who secretly proclaims Houki-pouki is his waifu and "fuck that french slut, Charlotte"?
>>133397332
>P&S isn't anime
How do you people manage to dress yourselves in the morning?
>normalfags anime
>western shit
Into the trash it goes. American ruined video games and now they are looking to ruin anime.
>>133397332
What actual definitions? Most definitions say anime is Japanese. I don't know how hard it is to understand, if something is made by a Japanese animation studio and airs in Japan first its anime this isn't hard to understand.
>>133397274
>Also just a heads up you two, "dood look it up fag" doesn't work in real debates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFbQftMe6qY
Go to 1:08.
>>133397385
Read OPs post more carefully.
>>133397443
>American ruined video games
what
>>133397311
Betch, there is people calling RWBY an anime, I'm betting my ass this so called "anime" Netflix is producing is just gonna be some anime-inspired western shit
>>133395723
It won't be in Japanese so it'll be shit.
>>133397476
You made my day.
>>133397494
What's EA, Activision, Bethesta, etc?
>>133395723
>What's going to happen?
Business as usual. They have a Japanese office which will be one of many media partners on animu production committees. They'll most likely fund shows in exchange for streaming rights outside of Japan.
>>133397476
I said real debates not a turf dispute
>>133397455
Look up the definition of anime in pretty much every English dictionary. The problem comes from putting shit that isn't similar at all in the same category while removing ones that are just because of what kind of person made it. Legit weaboos pushed this stupid elitist shit because they hate filthy gaijins and want to feel even the tiniest bit of superiority over others.
>>133397418
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck
>>133397476
I never thought I'd say this, but...
/pol/ was right.
>>133397494
The AAAAAAAAAAAAA games. First person simpleton shooters at it's finest. Just point and click and win.
But I doubt they can do the same with anime.
>>133397526
>Betch, there is people calling RWBY an anime
Then they aren't people but subhuman shits. Let's really wait first and watch Netflix's next move. Who knows? You might be condemning it this week and the next thing you know they announce thatKyoaniorMADHOUSEwill be giving a hand.
>>133395723
Anime and chill
>>133397443
He's smarter than you think
>>133397526
Wasn't RWBY made by a Japanese guy?
>>133397650
>image
I should have known it would be something stupid like that.
netflix+gainax when m8?
>>133397645
You mean just usual fap?
>>133397690
Who died in Texas, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Oum
>>133397690
Nah, it was some shitter from Rhode Island
>>133397616
Battlefield? I think that ends this right?
>>133397476
>CEDA 2014 finals
>The Cross Examination Debate Association is the largest intercollegiate policy debate association in the United States.
>Not a real debate
>>133397616
>MADHOUSE
If only in their prime, they're just a generic studio now
>>133397724
But what if it's actually decent?
>>133397754
They butchered battlefield, and even patched 2 to its death
>>133397250
>/co/
Fuck off. You know very well it belongs on /tv/. Toonami should have been shoved off to /tv/ too for that matter.
>>133397604
>an·i·me a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.
>a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.
> a style of Japanese film
>Japanese
>>133395723
Netflix's anime selections trend towards action-adventure focused stuff so it'd be nice if we could see something that wasn't just crafted to sell the source material, uncensored Blu-Rays and miscellaneous merchandise.
Anything that isn't just the same tired fucking LN and manga formulas would be nice though.
>>133395867
I'm still fucking angry.
>What's going to happen?
Well they're going to make it.
Then it'll get banned from /a/ for not being anime and will have to go on /co/.
>>133397950
>Then it'll get banned from /a/ for not being anime and will have to go on /co/.
Pretty sure /co/ is going to send this right back to /a/
>>133397950
You do realize Japanese company's are still going to make the actual anime right? And it's still going to be based of manga? The only thing that's going to change is more is going to be made and Netflix will own it.
>>133397970
Nah they will eat that shit.
Hell, they still have Toonami generals over there
Hey, can the HS bot rip Netflix yet? Taking screenshots of the Netflix browser player is a bit inelegant.
>>133397970
Sorry to tell you this but what /co/ wants doesn't mean shit. If it's not made in japan by the japanese it's western according to the rules of 4chan. Even stuff that's partially made by the japanese like ladybug are considered western.
>>133395723
I hope they'll speak in jap so Commie will sub it.
>>133396782
>jack and jill
>$79 million
>$149.7 million
>happy gilmore
>$12 million
>$41.2 million
>the wedding singer
>$18 million
>$123.3 million
pls shut up
>>133397877
>a style of Japanese film
>a style of Japanese
>a style
>style
And look up more than the piss poor dictionary.com
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/anime
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime
A Netflix Original
Fred-chan's MEGATOKYO
starring the voice talents of David Hayter, Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day
>>133398031
You're telling me Netflix isn't going to get people in Japan to make this? They are just gonna own it.
>>133398031
Except that's BULLSHIT. Oban Star Racers is always discussed on /a/ and /m/, and not allowed on /co/. Halo Legends, Mass Effect whatever, and the Animatrix are all considered to be /a/ material more than /co/ material, and they were discussed to death on this board. The only reason Ladybug is sent to /co/ is because it's 3DCG and not traditional anime nor based on a Japanese media property like Sidonia was.
>>133397970
/co/ accepts all of /a/'s abominations they don't want. Look at RWBY, Sonic, and Toonami.
>>133398096
>/co/ is forced to accepts all of /a/'s abominations they don't want
>>133398127
I actually meant that, yeah.
>>133396782
Literally the highest grossing film of all time made only half of 5 billion, dude. The numbers in this thread are retarded.
>>133397567
the creators of some of the best videogames ever created?
>>133397616
so you'd rather all videogames be JRPGs?
>>133398016
I still say Toonami threads belong on /a/. The discussion would at least be higher-level over here and I wouldn't have to deal with retards posting shit like
>Why is Akame ga Kill so crap? Why doesn't the series focus on the Jaegers?
>Why can Kana sense parasites in Parasyte?
>Is Michiko a kek?
>Shikamaru is so based.
I hope Netflix gets Trigger, Bones, or Madhouse to make something.
>>133398096
>RWBY
Entirely Western.
>Sonic
Discussion belongs on /a/.
>Toonami
Discussion belongs on /a/.
>>133398057
If you thought those links supported your argument, you thought wrong. More like the opposite.
>style
What kind of style? Oh, a Japanese one. Glad the dictionary definition cleared that up and you were back to square one.
If they don't hire a Japanese writer/director for the project they will only be throwing money into a hole.
Even if they do hire a good Japanese writer/director they still will be throwing money into the hole unless it manages to strike gold somehow because most anime projects don't return a lot of money.
Pretend all these characters are American company's. Pretend Leeroy is Netflix. Watch what happens
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqhcmK68HA
>>133398151
>so you'd rather all videogames be JRPGs?
No. But I'd rather not have the same fucking thing over and over and over until we get to Medal of Honor 20 or Call of Duty 99.
>>133398152
>dubbed entry-level shit on /a/
No thanks
>>133398239
Do I need to mention how many Final Fantasy games there are?
>>133398152
Akame ga Kill is shit and you are a shit-eater for liking it. Everybody is fine with Toonami being on /co/, we don't want those mouth breathers here and nobody here is even interested in talking about terrible shows or shows that have been over for years.
>>133395723
They will close down like Hulu Japan.
Now fuck off Netflix shills.
>>133398276
>nobody here is even interested in talking about terrible shows or shows that have been over for years.
Even I know this is a damn lie
>>133396782
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>>133398232
>not the original
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyOj_QD4a4
>>133398266
That has made switches from turn based to action based to MMO to a fighting game? Sure, go ahead. All it's missing is a FPS.
>>133398193
I think his point is that a style is not exclusive to it's region of origin. I can cook "Italian style food" in my kitchen, which isn't in Italy. They can make a "Japanese style cartoon/film" (aka an anime) in a place that isn't Japan.
It's not the "being made in Japan" that makes it anime, it's the style. So if they make something in the same style, but not made in Japan, it can be considered anime.
>>133398333
So Call of Duty having a fuckton of games is fine if they switch genres after their 10th game? You sound like either a pretty big weeb or a pretty big idiot.
>>133398309
Oh man, we just can't keep a lid on all those Michiko and Hacchin threads! People going off the fucking wall over One Piece episodes from the early 00s, and Shitpudding episodes from who-the-fuck-cares.
Fuck, even KLK sees basically no discussion these days. The hottest topic they have on the block now is Parasyte and /a/ got tired of that show months ago already.
To say nothing of AgK, possibly the rankest turd on the block aside from Nardo.
Final Fantasy isn't the same game outside of naming references, though. The game mechanics and stories are always changing instead of being ossified and being JUST THE WAY I LIKE THEM like Dragon Quest, for example.
>>133398193
A style can be used by all nationalities, retard.
>a style of animation originating in Japan
That literally means a style that first appeared in Japan. It doesn't mean it has to be from Japan to be that style. Merriam Webster's dictionary is one of the largest and most used dictionary producing companies in the world, it holds much more to it than a shitty website made a few years ago.
>>133398062
>megatokyo
I haven't heard that name in a while. How's Fred-chan doing?
>>133398210
It's not like they need to sell Blu-Rays and event tickets. If they can fund things like House of Cards or Marco Polo and buy the rights to the Netflix Marvel series, an anime series is a drop in the bucket.
>>133398347
It's not a Japanese style of animation. It's a style of Japanese animation. There's a difference.
>>133398373
Didn't mean what's on Toonami, I mean the threads on /a/ now. Pretty a good number of people on /a/ ARE interested in talking about terrible shows
Make harry potter anime and swim in dollars.
>>133398435
Which has fuck all to do with the topic of the discussion into which you injected your shitty opinion.
>>133398367
Do I even need to tell you how limited the tech was back then compared to now? Go try starting your count from 7 up to 10 and that's only 3 main games.
>>133398394
So basically it's going to be trash then. I mean, if they don't care about audience appeal then they're just going to do some faggy "auteur project" or someshit that nobody but the director will care about.
>>133398378
The only thing that needs to be said about this video game argument is Grant Theft Auto. Why you making things hard on yourself?
>>133397476
I should of stopped when I had a chance.
1:08:00 . . . fuck
>>133397787
Can't be the biggest
hii haaa *taptaptpa*
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Why not post an article OP? Maybe I'll submit my anime to Netflix instead of Adult Swim in 5 years
>>133398057
>And look up more than the piss poor dictionary.com
>the oxford definition is literally the same definition
>The definition doesn't claim that its a style originating from japan but a Japanese style.
>>133398373
If people make a thread about it, anons will post in it. That's the way /a/ works. I mean, look at the fucking catalog right now.
>Thread about a stupid mystery manga that got axed
>Chaika
>Bleach
>Infinite Stratos
>Nichijou
>Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
It's full of old-ass shit. Your argument is illogical, incorrect, and stupid.
>>133398468
The tech is meaningless, they could have branched out to another genre at any time.
>>133398536
No, your argument is stupid.
>I post shit on /a/, ergo people enjoy talking about it!
No you dumb faggot it just means there's shitposters on /a/. My statement was not meant to imply that trolls and shitposters do not exist, but apparently I have to add fine print disclaimers to common sense statement so thickheaded dipshits like you can keep up.
>>133398433
>>133398522
>This Winchester rifle is an American gun, but it was made in China so it's not an American gun!
Not either of those anons, but this is how retarded you sound. Anime is just a style as far as the proper English dictionary is concerned.
>>133398588
No it's not. It's Japanese animation. Even the definitions you gave said as much. If it's not made in Japan, for a Japanese audience, using Japanese conventions, it's not anime.
>>133398642
Lol anime is short for animation. And the word itself does not refer to Japan in any way.
>>133398588
Anime literally means cartoon. Is it made in japan and is a cartoon? Then it's an anime, made anywhere else it's just a cartoon.
Why is that so hard to understand?
>>133398690
>>133398679
Go ahead and make a Family Guy thread right now and see how long it takes for a janny to remove it. Just because it means that in Japan doesn't mean it means that in the west.
>>133398725
>kotaku
>>133398583
Pretty sure you're the thickheaded dipshit here.
>>133395723
American culture will fuck it up because Americans still view all anime as porn, speed racer, or DBZ
Plus I doubt it'll have loli if it's aimed at a western audience, and the forced multiculturalism will be abundant
>>133395723
I don't think they said they were producing their own anime, but would acquire rights to currently existing shows, a la CR and Funi.
Maybe I'm wrong.
>>133398784
So it will be like studio jhibli?
>>133398784
>American culture will fuck it up because Americans still view all anime as porn, speed racer, or DBZ
At what point did you stop paying attention to the climate of anime in NA? It's not like that anymore. The fact Netflix is even doing this proves as much. A lot of their streaming is from the anime section.
>>133398642
That's not me, and that's wrong. It's defined as a style originating or created in Japan, that literally means the style came from Japan. If you're an actual English speaking person and not an autistic weaboo, it is anime if it looks like anime.
>>133398690
Because it's a fucking stupid definition that isn't even correct. I don't look for shit that looks like a cartoon when I'm looking for anime, I'm looking for anime. I'm not looking for shit that looks like anime when I'm looking for a cartoon. It categorizes things that are not similar in any way and only furthers the weaboo Nippon wank. More and more people are moving to the actual definition of anime being a style with all these new series coming out that are blurring the line between "anime" and "cartoon".
>>133398541
And so does CoD and MoH right now, moreso than what FF can change into during the SNES era.
But I'm not seeing any change. At all.
>>133398917
>The definition of this has to change because I don't like it and it's confusing for me!
Okay then
Why can't they just fund an adaptation of something popular already instead?
Anime is animation made in Japan, it's called that way because of the way it is, all anime have the same sort of style in animation, directing, storytelling and culture in general.
>>133399052
because it might only be popular in japan for all netflix knows
if they fund an anime that isn't popular in NA, regardless of how popular it is in japan, it would be pointless
>>133395723
You mean 5million right? 5 billion is way too much for an anime
>>133398977
No, the definition is and has always been a style, this is my whole point. The common definition on the internet is an asinine one that people only use to feel superior when they go "no you filthy casual, it only LOOKS exactly like an anime, it's not really one!"
>>133399123
>if they fund an anime that isn't popular in NA, regardless of how popular it is in japan, it would be pointless
So what anime/genre is popular in NA right now?
I'm guessing either SOL or TypeMoon shit.
>>133395723
>What's going to happen?
Netflix saves anime
>>133399219
It's not being elitist, it's using the word properly. I bet you use Shonen and Seinen as genres instead of just demographics.
>>133398913
I didn't say anime fans view it that way, but when I see anime parodied in more modern TV it's almost always DBZ, Speed racer, or tentacles.
The top selling anime in the US are shonenshit anyway, so use that to speculate
>A lot of their streaming is from the anime section.
I'd like to see statistics on what percentage of streams are anime, and until I do I'll assume it isn't much compared to their TV and movies.
>>133399093
No it's not. It's kinda like telling people the United States is not actually America. Though most people believe it is. it's not true. That's why it's called the United States of America. As in located in America. Anime is just a term for animation. Even though many people like you believe it's for only cartoons created in Japan.
>>133399219
Where are you even pulling that out of your ass anon? Kotaku?
It's okay anon I totally get it, you don't want to think. I find that part of you kind of cute but you shouldn't just come on the internet, tell lies, and expect people to agree.
>>133399268
Anime is slang for cartoons in Japan
Of course it means something different to people in Japan
>>133399268
I would call your image anime style, I wouldn't call a western cartoon in an anime style anime though, they're vastly different.
>>133395723
Excellent. I bet they come up with way better shit than most Japanese producers are coming up with and make it look easy. Imagine 5 billion dollars being dropped on anime without having to cater exclusively to Japanese otaku and a few years ago I would have called it a pipe dream. All they have to do is make sure Aniplex has absolutely no part in it and I say fucking go for it.
Jap = ANIMEtion
West = japANIMEtion
>>133395723
>anime with the same directors and staff but 1000x the budget
This can only be a good thing.
>>133395723
That's not what was said at all, retard
It was actually:
>Netflix CEO plans on spending 5 billion dollars on new content next year
which includes things like "anime" and "Bollywood" styled shows, whatever that means
>>133399360
And somehow the directors messes it up because of MUH ARTISTIC FREEDUM or because they hate the MC or something.
5 billion, or at least part of it, down the drain.
>>133399254
Except it's not using the word properly. That definition is full of holes and constantly changes to kick out new series that come by.
>>133399282
I'm not the anon that linked the Kotaku article, and even then, just because it's your boogyman site doesn't mean it's not true. It's common knowledge that anime just means cartoon in Japan.
Get ready for shitty forced animation.
One characteristic of Anime is that it makes western mainstream cringe, I hope Netflix doesn't take too much influence from its western live action series.
>>133399412
Can you name one show that mimics anime on more than an art style level please
>>133397476
/pol/ was right again
>>133399412
You're really pushing this anon.
I guess if I make a flip book of your waifu getting fucked in the ass that's "anime" by your definition.
I'm now a pro in the anime industry so everything I say goes.
>>133399329
Good job I'm glad you are able to see the difference in styles. However they are both birds of a feather. They are animated story's. Cartoons of you will.
>>133399501
If"
Anime made in the west is still anime
>>133399411
What are you on?
Netflix let Sense8 exist.
Sense fucking 8, and they're still supporting Knights of Sidonia.
Netflix execs aren't the type to limit writers. If anything we'll finally get an adaptation of some really fun anime.
Spirit Circle might get a fucking anime.
Sakura Sakura might get an anime
Maybe it'll be horror like Hakaijuu.
There's a bunch of stuff they can adapt that can resonate with mainstream audiences but because they're continuing the partnership with Knights of Sidonia it's pretty safe to say Netflix is pretty chill no matter the content.
>>133399501
How don't you get that anime is a genre of animation?
>>133399266
No, even on a mainstream level people are pretty hip to what anime is. Even if it only expands to what /a/ would consider entry level titles.
>>133399606
Because it's factually not. But you can believe what you want. Fun fact! Some people like to still believe Columbus discovered America.
>>133397476
What the actual fuck. I can understand 1/3 words.
>>133399266
>I'd like to see statistics on what percentage of streams are anime, and until I do I'll assume it isn't much compared to their TV and movies.
Do you know why they put money into House of Cards? Because the numbers showed people were streaming character dramas.
I don't have stats but it's been known that Netflix makes moves based directly on customer activity.
>>133399542
Only if the style feels like Japanese.
Like Psychopass. No matter how many western elements are there it still feels like authentic Japanese anime.
>>133399576
>What are you on?
Nothing. I'm just predicting a hypothetical future where Netflix decided to produce an anime adaptation of some story from manga/LN/game and the directors messes it up.
>>133399676
Are you baiting? I really can't tell at this point.
>>133397476
Holy shit. Even the autistic shitflinging on /a/ is more coherent and made more logical sense that that.
Why do people think a Netflix show will be ruined by American culture? Sidonia turned out fine.
>>133399730
If that's the same guy who posted >>133399501
it's pretty clear he's baiting at this point.
>>133399471
Anime is literally an artstyle though, and there are plenty of "anime" that don't mimic each other in any aspect other than art style. Some don't even have the art style or common tropes of anime and are called such..
But just for the sake of the argument, look at Wakfu, Cannon Busters, and RWBY. All have typical tropes seen in anime along with the style.
>>133399542
Devil's Legacy CEO please. Don't squander the remaining 9 Fathers.
>>133399722
>muh feels
no
>>133399775
"anime" is an artstyle
"manga" is an artstyle
"anime" is a genre of animation
"manga" is a genre of comic
Moe SoL is fucking doomed
>>133399791
It would be pretty shitty if it feels like Family Guy or The Simpsons.
It's all chinese cartoons one way or another. Stop being autistic.
>>133399749
Because it's an excuse to bitch about America.
>>133397476
Sougon-sama was right. Akira wasn't the Savior after all.
Black Lagoon could've easily been written and directed by Americans. Their "oh so wacky" Japanese sensibilities aren't present in every show, just the shitty ones we like.
>>133399749
Netflix had fuck-all to do with Sidonia except acquiring the rights to stream it after production had finished.
oi /a/, where my simpsons? it's popular animation
what gives?
>>133399877
Yeah, I can definitely see a director approving a writer adding in two crossdressing incest battle maids.
>>133399903
boondocks is anime too since it looks the part, google that
>>133399775
Wakfu is anime! You heard it here first, folks. Wakfu thread when?
>>133399816
Anime is a style of animation
Manga is a style of comic
>>133399877
>Black Lagoon could've easily been written and directed by Americans
Americans are known for their love of meidos and murdering lolis and shotas, yes. You're a dumbfuck.
>>133399933
You could call all genres styles, anon.
>>133399923
As far as the English dictionary is concerned, yes, it is.
So what if Disney decides to do anime too?
>>133399952
>>133399908
>being a pedantic nitpicker
I mean the general plot and tone of the show, not specific cherrpicked ideas that didn't make the show what it is.
>>133399775
>Anime is literally an artstyle though
No it's not. Anime have varied artstyles. Teekyuu and Jojo are both anime. Ping Pong and K-On are both anime. K is an anime and so is Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, and so is Panty and Stocking.
Know what they have in common? Made in Japan, by Japanese people, for Japanese people.
>>133399988
Any show could be "American" if you conveniently forget about the parts that make it anime.
>>133399219
>The definition that I use is the real one! The one that everyone else uses is wrong!
Are you feeling euphoric, anon?
>>133400022
You can't pick and choose what make something anime. It's an artstyle.
Birdy the Mighty s3.
This anime/cartoon argument is kinda ridiculous. Is anybody in this thread even Japanese?
>>133399988
>I mean the general plot and tone of the show,
You mean the things nobody claimed were specifically and distinctly Japanese? Anyone can write a noir action story. It's not a genre beholden to a specific culture. What makes it anime is the specifically Japanese conventions and tropes that flavor it.
No American would have made Black Lagoon with battle maids or underage twins making out in pools of blood. Ever.
>>133400074
I've never been to the moon but I can argue that it isn't made of cheese.
>>133400022
>lolis and shotas are the unique qualities that make something anime or not
k
>>133400055
I can make boondocks/wakfu generals on /a/ now, right? They look anime so they're obviously anime/manga related.
Thanks anon really cleared that up for me.
>>133400055
>You can't pick and choose what make something anime
Funny because that's what you're doing. It's funny that your definition of anime specifically leaves out all the stuff that marks it as distinct from western shit. Even though that's literally how it ends up being defined. God you're dumb.
You literally strip away all the unique parts of anime then claim "look anyone can make anime! you just have to take all the anime stuff out of it first!"
>>133400095
All I'm saying is Black Lagoon doesn't feature qualities that are strictly Japanese, at least not in terms of it's tone and direction. Yet we accept it as being anime.
If you wouldn't accept the same show from an American (and let's be honest, you wouldn't) then you shouldn't accept it from Japan.
>>133400097
What what's the point? That's what I'm getting at?
Should pick up and finish Bleach
>>133397476
>literal ape noises
>>133399893
Except they paid for part of it, and didn't ask for ANY changes to be made.
That's why people are confident Netflix won't fuck up any anime they make.
>>133400129
Are you saying that every anime has wacky Japanese shit in it? Literally every anime?
>>133400136
>All I'm saying is Black Lagoon doesn't feature qualities that are strictly Japanese
Except the ones I mentioned. I could go into how specific framing and focus are done differently between cultures, but it'd clearly go over your head since you don't know anything about this topic.
>>133398052
>the best and one of the very few non shit movies Adam Sandler has made makes 42 million dollars
>literall shit like Jack & Jill makes 149 million
What the fuck
>>133400009
Dexters lab and Family Guy are both considered cartoony styled. They don't have to be exactly alike to be the same style. But with the proper English definition, I don't think P&S or Shin-Chan or anything like that would qualify as anime, and rightfully so. They are not categorized as something someone would consider anime at first glance.
>>133400054
Well, technically, yeah. A vast majority of normal people would consider Avatar and LoK anime while excluding P&S or something like that. You're free to use whatever retarded definition you please, but that doesn't make the other person wrong when they have the proper English definition on their side.
They should pay madhouse to continue OPM after cour one
>>133400173
>Except they paid for part of it
No they didn't. They're literally not credited ANYWHERE in the production, they're only billed as the distributor for English audiences. You're aware that it's a manga series right? It was an adaptation produced by an entirely Japanese studio for Japanese audiences.
MAKE IT HAPPEN FUCKERS
>>133400178
Literally all anime are colored by Japanese culture, yes. The fact you think this is limited to "wacky" things and that you can't pinpoint the Japanese influences speaks volumes of your ignorance.
>>133400129
>every anime has these tropes and clichés! If it doesn't, it's not anime!
You're fucking retarded, m8.
>>133400189
I just have a hard to believing that removing those things would prevent it from being anime. Surely you don't believe that.
>Animate sells RWBY soundtracks and BDs
>doesn't sell simpsons DVDs
why doesn't animate sell mah animations?
what gives?
>>133397443
>>133397616
>Americans made the most popular games! Fucking cancer!
You sound bootyblasted.
Can we go back to calling anime japanimation please?
I don't get why you guys even bother to argue about this. It's pretty obvious what anime Netflix is actually funding.
>>133400238
That'd be a loss for them though since most 13 year olds can't afford Netflix.
>>133400306
Because The Simpsons isn't anime.
>>133400272
Culture has nothing to do with it buddy. If that's what makes a show legitimately anime to YOU, that's fine. But don't project your definition onto the world.
>>133400290
See, it's like I'm talking to a 5 year old. You can't even follow a simple line of reasoning, let alone the details of this topic. But here I go again, trying despite all evidence you are a simpleton:
Anime is defined as Japanese animation. This is because the animation produced by the Japanese possesses distinct qualities that mark it as different. If it didn't, if Japanese animation was really so homogenous with the rest of the world's entertainment, there would be no special term for it in English, and nobody would consider it different from normal cartoons. But that's not the case, is it?
Like all outsiders and ignoramuses who know nothing of anime, you reverse cause and effect. You think anime's distinctness is something artificially created by fans, when in fact it's the reverse. It only has dedicated fans because it's distinct.
The fact remains you have no counter to the presence of battle maids and murderous children in Black Lagoon. You absolutely cannot deny no American would create a series with these elements, because they don't exist as tropes in American culture.
>>133400362
B..but RWBY isn't anime either!It's produced in the West! Why is animate selling it?
Why does animate sell RWBY cartoons but not my simpsons cartoons?
>>133400370
Except my definition is the one the world recognizes. Anime is Japanese animation, period. Foreign cultures try to imitate it, but it always feels wrong because it's just a shallow copy of superficial elements.
It doesn't feel like anime. It doesn't look like anime except in the most vague of ways. I laugh at people who claim Avatar or Wakfu "look" like anime. It's like they're fucking blind.
>>133400416
You needn't waste breath anon.
If it's made in japan it's anime. As simple as that.
The people we're arguing with are saying wakfu is anime but P&S isn't. This isn't even worth the effort.
>>133400320
>Americans made the most popular games!
Not even mad because you muscular army men can't be more famous than a hollywood mouse or an Italian plumber or a blue hedgehog or a blue robot.
>>133400461
>breath
>>133400322
no. anime is global now. its not some sort of new weeb orientalism or any shit like that. its a style that can be mass produced anywhere for anyone. thats just something youre going to have to learn to accept and move on.
