I want to marry Arslan!
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
>forbid people from making gay doujinshi
What were they thinking.
>>124109432
That's not true, anon.
He forbid drawing any porn doujinshi.
>>124109574
That's just backpedalling after the backlash over the original homophobic guideline.
>>124109432
As if that'll actually stop anyone
>>124109432
Forbidding something just makes people want it more.
>>124109432
>forbidding something ever
what
>>124109290
But anon, you're a little girl. You can't get married until you come of age!
>>124110592
No, Arslan is a little girl.
>>124110713
Arslan is our royal highness you peasant! Repent!
>>124110834
If I repent do I get to marry her?
So Arslan Senki is more or less kinda using the Muslim conquest of Persia as a base, right? Why are the Persians fighting the Portuguese?
>>124109432
>What were they thinking.
Not with the dicks. That's for damn sure.
>>124112734
They aren't Portuguese, they are clearly supposed to represent Moorish Arabs.
>>124113117
Then why are they called Lusitanians?
>>124113191
Because Moors occupied most of Iberia?
>>124109432
>forbid people from making gay doujinshi
What did I miss?
Why would they just not try to stop a tsunami with their hands it would be equally effective.
>>124109432
>draw a pure prince
>people call him a girl
What were they thinking?
>>124109432
Blame it on Arakawa's shitty art style.
>>124112734
>>124113117
No no no, they're supposed to be the Romans. It takes place in the 4th century, during the height of the Roman Sassanid wars. Muhammad himself was born in the 6th century, there are no Muslims.
>>124113578
>4th century
It has its own fictional era, which makes no reference to Common Era/Anno Domini. Its irrelevant, because in the novels and original manga/OVA series, the Lustinians are clear expies to Not-Muslim Arabs.
Maryam is Not-East Rome/Byzantines. They are not fighting Romans, they are fighting fucking Arabs/Moors/Berbers.
>>124113647
I was under the impression Maryam was Armenia.
That aside, why do they have crosses on their shields? Not only crosses, but crosses very very similar to the Byzantine Cross?
>>124113793
Its closer to Hungarian designs then Byzantine Orthodox crosses. Doesn't matter though, either way Tanaka's intention and thematic with the Lustinians is to depict them as very violent and oppressive religious zealots whose kingdom is in a very desolate prior to them becoming monotheists.
Now who does that remind you of?
>>124113793
Not to mention, the map of the conflict shown is more or less a 90 degree rotation of the Roman Persian war. In addition, the Lusitanians are referred to as coming from the West, not the South as the Arabs would.
>>124113299
Because you wouldn't be reinforced by loyal fans for trying to stop a tsunami.
>>124113949
Design-wise, they do look very Roman. Actually, the more I think about it, the more likely it seems that Lusitania is more or less an amalgam of all of Judeo-Christianity in general.
Is anyone else kind of offended how awful Arakawa's redesigns of Gieve and Farangis are? I mean I can stomach the others because it doesn't really influence their character so significantly, but Gieve's in particular is pretty bad.
>>124114013
The Ghassanids are west of Persia and its client Arab states in the 5th, 6th, and 7th centuries. You aren't proving anything, Maryam is the Byzo-Romano expy in the story.
I need more of this cutie.
>>124114129
Yes. I can't believe how shitty and plain the new Gieve is, and Farangis is basically Lust.
>>124113949
The Arab conquest of Persia was successful because of military strategy and tactics in actual battles. Not at all like the Lustinian victory which had more to do with manipulating the internal politics of Persia.
>>124114129
>the Ghassanids are west of Persia and its client Arab states in the 5th, 6th, and 7th
A client state of rome, yes..
>>124114146
Is that young Hawkeye?
>>124114237
Who are Arabs, like the Lukmids who would eventually become part of the Rashidun Caliphate. What's your point?
>The Arab conquest of Persia
>was successful
It was successful because Persia and Byzantine had spent the better part of 70 years wasting three generations of manpower, resources, and money on each other between the Anatasian War and the final Lazic Wars.
They picked off two massively weakened nations. And Persia itself had gone through 13 pretenders and usurpers from the Grandees, 7 great clans, and the main Imperial family once Khosrau Parviz had died, being highly unstable and militarily vulnerable until Yadzgerd III came to power at the age of 8.
You know who kicked the shit out of the Arabs even with numerically inferior forces and less experience? Shapur II the Great.
>>124114129
That map is actually of the wars in the 6th century, but either way, the Arabs invaded Persia from the South, not the West. And certainly not Greece, which is where the Romans, and the Lusitanians, invaded from.
>>124114129
Arakawa's only good designs are old farts.
>>124114438
The Arabian peninsula is Southwest of Iraq, not just "South" of Persia. The region of Baghdad is traditionally part of the Persian people's homeland, and part of the Pars province for thousands of years.
>Not Greece
>which where the Romans invaded from
Except Byzantine is in Anatolia, not Greece. And Byzantines identified as Romans culturally and ethnically, not as Greeks even if they were assimilated by them.
The Lustiniana is a Islam expy, the story does not have to fucking parallel a 1:1 of exact references to make it indicative of the fact they are the Arab Muslims of the story.
Would protect.
>>124114438
That gif shows once they taken the western half of Persian and Byzantine Mespotamia, that Yadzgerd III had sued for giving away half of the western Sassanid empire to the Arabs to keep them from invading into Iraq and Iran from the, yes you fussed, the western direction coming east to Pars and the Iranian plateau.
/iiiiiiiiiiiiint/
get the fuck out
>>124114624
Daryun pls
>>124114690
>/hist/ory equals /int/ now
>>124114255
I think she's more of a female Alphonse, really.
What I want to know is how do you hide you're female in a crusader-era military culture?
>>124114749
actually yes.
>>124114404
>It was successful because Persia and Byzantine had spent the better part of 70 years wasting three generations of manpower, resources, and money on each other between the Anatasian War and the final Lazic Wars.
That too, but even that isn't the case in the the legend of arslan. Parallels between the Arabic invasion and the Pars-Lusitanian war are running quite thin.
>You know who kicked the shit out of the Arabs even with numerically inferior forces and less experience?
Shapur the Great.
>Shapur II the Great.
I got that one right.
>The Lustiniana is a Islam expy, the story does not have to fucking parallel a 1:1 of exact references to make it indicative of the fact they are the Arab Muslims of the story.
>They are based on arab Muslims
>but they don't have to be similar to the Arab Muslims at all.
>>124109432
Tanaka gave in and the prohibition is lifted
http://zakitakubu.com/2015/04/14/arslan-senki-anti-bl-anti-fujoshi-guideline-struck-down/
>Wright Staff Co. Ltd., a group of writers which includes Arslan Senki author Tanaka Yoshiki, revised its guidelines for derivative works on Monday, April 13th.
>Prior to Monday’s revisions, a specific clause in the group’s guidelines for derivative works (i.e., doujinshi and fanart) prohibited any expression of homosexuality. The guidelines received public backlash and were portrayed as being anti-BL and anti-fujoshi.
>They have now been revised so that “extreme sexual depictions” (heterosexual, homosexual, or otherwise) are prohibited, but not expressions of homosexuality.
>He also acknowledged that the guidelines are more so requests to fans than hard rules.
>>124114964
Holy shit. You've gone too far this time boner. You need to be stopped.
The Lusitanian are part Muslim conquerors, part Christian crusader. They have a bible, an opposition between a western and western church. At the end, who fucking care, it's a fucking fantasy epic.
>>124115077
Wanted to say western and eastern.
>>124114827
>it isn't the case of the legend of Arslan.
Why not? Its a blend of things, your saying Pars is supposed to be Sassanid Persia, even though the Sassanids never once called their nation or people as "Parsa" like the Achaemeneid Persians did. Arslan's father is a pretender, whose very highly intended to be an amalgamation of Mardanshah and Bahram Chobin, who usurps the throne from Kadveh, his older brother.
There's enough man.
The parallels are the Lustinanians invading from the West after taking much of Pars' client states and vassals and directly marching on the Pars' homeland, which coincidence, parallels what the Arab Muslims do in the real world.
>Shapur the Great
It was Shapur II, not Shapur I. Shapur I is Shapur II's great-grandfather. He even has the nickname of "one who pierces through shoulders" for how violently he settled and crushed Arab invasions into Persia in the middle of the 4th century.
>they aren't similar to Arab Muslims at all
So invading from the West, conquering all the nations and kingdoms allied or owned by the Pars Empire, and being extremely religious to the point of declaring a jihad on the Parsians in the novels isn't an expy for Arabs?
>>124114964
I hope that one fujo animator puts out some douins under a fake name.
>>124115077
There's like almost no magic or supernatural stuff in Arslan. I don't think it qualifies as a "fantasy" series.
>>124115162
*doujins
>>124109290
Is Arslan what Arakawa wanted to do with Edward but didn't have the balls to ?
>>124114972
Everything about this is amazing.
>>124114572
>>124114674
The map that was shown in the beginning is clearly of Turkey, where the Roman Sassanid wars were fought. Going back to what I said earlier though, Lusitania seems far more like an amalgam of Byzantine Rome and the early Caliphate. Their armor is extremely Roman, sports Roman symbols, and geographically, they're from Rome. However their philosophy of equality and total bloodlust for heathens is Muslim, and from what >>124113949 said, while geographically they're Roman, the actual landscape is Arabian.
Basically what >>124115077 said.
>>124114972
>"extreme sexual depictions” are prohibited
What a bunch of beta faggots.
>>124115234
They are totally Arabs m8, have you seen the designs from the novels or original OVA series of how Lustinians dress or what their soldiers look like?
Completely Arabic.
>>124115247
You don't want people abusing your cute prince.
>>124115269
That may have been the original design, but the new direction is far more a combination than one or the other.
>>124114972
Japan has guidelines for fanart? What?
>>124114972
Nice
Oh man, OG Arslan looked like a king, now he looks like a heroine
>"Y-you're not fapping to me, right anon-kun?"
>>124115170
It's not historical, at least. It's kind of like Mount and Blade, with a bit more magic.
![[OZC]Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam E49 'Casualties of War'.mkv_snapshot_00.18.58_[2014.04.02_00.15.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ECba5GW.jpg "[OZC]Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam E49 'Casualties of War'.mkv_snapshot_00.18.58_[2014.04.02_00.15.54].jpg")
>>124114972
>guidelines for derivative works
What is this era
Authors are supposed to pretend these don't exist and gracefully ignore anything they don't like about them.
I don't want to live in a world where authors write guidelines for what sort of porn involving the characters they created I should be reading. Fuck them
>>124115301
>Arslan will never know about the pleasure of being cummed inside
Truly too harsh of a guideline.
>>124115372
He looks like 80's gay porn anime.
>>124115408
No
>>124115450
In comparison to looking like 2015 gay porn anime, seems fair enough
>>124115458
>Those fucking ripped arms
Get me diamond hard every single time.
In what world does the artist get to dictate what other people get from his art? Artists job is to put it out there and if someone takes anything out of it then its job done.
>>124115458
Mirin dem gains.
>>124115458
That guy on the right looks like he would be voiced by Suwabe Junichi
>>124115450
He looks like the synthetic lovechild of Iason and Riki.
>>124115624
He's voiced by Daisuke Namikawa.
>>124115512
>2015 gay porn anime
I'm afraid there's no such thing, son.
>>124115717
Yes there is, and it's called Arslan Senki
>>124115326
Same source material, same fluff all the same.
>>124115426
There is literally almost zero magic and the magic that is displayed is very minor.
>>124115717
Did you had to remind me?
>>124115742
Fair enough.
It probably won't have fabulous orgasmic hair flipping though, sadly.
>>124115624
Daisuke Namikawa is voicing him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM0rt-4c7-M
>>124115597
I think it's more in the context of doujins being sold for money. I don't know japan's laws on the subject but I imagine conventions might refuse to host you and stores wouldn't stock it.
>>124115742
No if you follow the suggested guidelines.
>>124115816
>The androgynous is on top
This kills the boner.
>we will never hear Not-Oberstein, Not-Yang and Not-Char voice their characters again in Arslan
>>124115833
What do doujinkas risk if they breach these guidelines anyway? A 1 yen fine?
Only the first episode is out yet, right?
>>124115889
Considerably more since Kadokawa did the same forbidding fans from making fan games for Kancolle
>>124115889
The guidelines were first made 10 years ago.
>>124115785
Sorry anon. I wanted to make sure your mind was healthy and you didn't take refuge in some wonderland where anime gay porns OVAs are released thrice a year and the remake of Ai no Kusabi is being continued.
>>124115854
You have my inverted fetish, are you bizarro me?
>>124114200
Gieve's completely lacks the charm, exotic nature, and fey inspired design of his original form in Arakawa's reboot. Its pretty saddening, his rogue personality really worked with that Persian style clothing.
>>124115902
No, the second is out too.
![Ai no Kusabi - Episode 01.avi_snapshot_37.31_[2015.04.16_21.24.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/p9JTmgV.jpg "Ai no Kusabi - Episode 01.avi_snapshot_37.31_[2015.04.16_21.24.46].jpg")
>>124115854
Iason isn't androgynous though. Or is he ? To me he's a man with long hair.
>>124115717
I don't know, he would fit right in
>>124115301
How long until the doujins?
>>124116443
That's so 2014 though.
>>124116592
You may be right, I don't keep up with gay porn anime, but designwise not much should have changed
>>124109432
>forbid people from making gay doujinshi
What
>>124117446
The Pokémon company had managed to pressure doujin circles in Japan to not draw Pokébestiality (sex with just the Pokémon amongst themselves or human characters with human characters is ok though).
Those guidelines apparently tend to actually get followed.
>>124117446
See >>124114972
>>124114690
I want the /int/ and /lit/faggotry to stay. It's the only way to get decent discussion outside of "Which senki wud u fug xDD"
>>124116443
I was so disappointed that the MC only rarely wore a wig.
>>124117788
Seriously. Reminds me of /sci/donia threads.
>>124109290
This Arslan girl is pretty cute, but I don't understand the trend of giving females masculine names.
>>124114404
Wasn't Shapur II the one that was crowned king when he was still a fetus?
>>124120096
He is the only monarch to ever be crowned in utero. So yes, no other regent/leader/royal whatever has ever matched that.
He lived for 70 years.
He reigned for 70 years.
>>124120333
>70 years
Jesus, that's fucking ancient for that time.
>>124114129
>>124116101
>>124114200
Does ova Gieve stab people in the neck and face? If he doesn't then no I don't care about his design, it's his action and personality that makes him great.
>>124114404
>You know who kicked the shit out of the Arabs even with numerically inferior forces and less experience? Shapur II the Great.
Not the same Arabs. The Arabs who defeated the sassanids just finished uniting much of the Arabian peninsula after war.
>>124115129
>the West
They invaded from the South. What is now Iraq was under Sassanid rule which is North of Arabia.
>>124109290
Arslan is cute!
>>124112127
You may serve in her army.
>>124121255
The resumption of war between the Sassanids and Caliphate was them invading from Mesopotamia, which is West from Pars.
>>124109290
/a/ help I think I'm in love with a boy
