>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-13/log-horizon-author-mamare-touno-charged-with-tax-evasion/.87083
The Tokyo District Public Prosecutor's Office and the Tokyo Regional Taxation Bureau charged 41-year old Log Horizon and MAOYU light novel author Mamare Touno (real name Daisuke Umezu) and his intellectual property holding company m2ladeJAM (pronounced "marmalade jam") with tax evasion and violation of the Corporate Tax Law on Monday.
Touno allegedly failed to file 120 million yen (around US$996,438) in royalties from the printed versions of his MAOYU and Log Horizon novels for his income tax report in a three-year period ending last year. According to the prosecutor's office, Touno owes the Japanese government 30 million yen (around US$249,114) in taxes.
When NHK reached out to Touno for comment, he said, "I've paid my taxes, but I can't comment."
Touno launched his Log Horizon light novel series in March 2011, and his MAOYU light novel series in May 2011. Log Horizon inspired two TV anime series. The first season premiered in October 2013, and the second season premiered last October. Yen Press announced last August that it will publish the light novels in North America.
MAOYU also inspired a 12-episode television anime series that premiered in January 2013.
Source: NHK News Web
>>123968389
>m2ladeJAM (pronounced "marmalade jam")
What?
>>123968422pleasure of being cummed inside
>>123968422
numeral 2 looks kind of like "arma"
so season 3 cancelled?
>>123968691
You cant cancel something that was never going to exist
>>123968682
>sexualizing kids is surefine
In 2002, Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro was arrested and convicted of violating child prostitution laws, including paying a 16-year-old girl ¥80,000 to have sex. As a result of the arrest, Seikimatsu Leader Den Takeshi! was cancelled by Weekly Shōnen Jump.
I wonder how his cute tsundere sister is taking all of this.
>>123968752
They probably were looking for any excuse.
>everything canceled forever
well shit
I bet he wasn't even trying to do anything wrong, he probably just got really lazy..
It was planned by Miss F-ta!
THE MONEY IS ALL GONE
DATABASE DATABASE
>>123968557
What??
>>123968830
And here come the retards thinking spouting lyrics out of the song will make them witty.
>>123968883
I DID IT ALL ANON
ALL IT
>>123968752
>16-year-old girl
>child
What?
At 16 you can leave home and do whatever you want except drink/gamble (and anal apparently).
>>123968883
>being this new on my /a/
>>123968906
>At 16 you can leave home and do whatever you want
Prostitution is illegal in Japan and definitely illegal if you're 16
>>123968921
Being new or not isn't the issue here.
It's more of using the song as a form of mockery.
But then again you guys laughed when Cocoa died days ago.
I guess he is in the database now for sure
>>123968775
> I-it's not like I wanted to bail you out of jail, don't get the wrong idea...baka...
>>123968981
Whoa, someone's pissy. Wrong side of the bed today, reddit?
>>123968984
It's the other war round. He couldn't run from the database of Jp's tax office.
>>123968932
"illegal"
>>123968389
I hope we get a story about Mamare (little sister) visiting him in prison.
>>123968389
We should send him a card.
>>123968389
So he tried to pull a Shiroe, except he failed and got caught?
>>123968682
He wasn't arrested. Just fined
>>123969092
The last time /a/ did the smiliar thing and a VA's Twitter had to be closed down. Let's not.
>>123968932
They sure have found ways to get past the wording of the law, though.
>>123969117
THAT WAS /v/
Do rich people commonly go to prison for tax evasion? Don't they usually just spend a shitload of money on lawyers to work out a non-prison deal by paying a fuckton of money to the government?
>>123969117
Was that the time people sent dick pics or was that another time?
>>123969117
I'm going to send him a card.
I can't wait for all the tax jokes that's going to be made if he ever comes back to /a/ for a question session.
>>123969126
Last I heard there were massage parlors with highschool girls giving testicle massages that somehow weren't being closed down
>>123969132
Obviously.
The gubbment doesn't give a shit about the law anymore than you or I do, but they need revenue to continue functioning, hence they stab and bleed rich people for all their worth.
It's all just a racket, anon.
>>123969147
Prostitution is illegal in Japan in the same way that pornography is illegal in Japan.
>>123969099
If he's half as NEET as I suspect, what I bet just happened is he got too stressed thinking about the money and put it off too long not realizing there's be consequences.
>>123968389
>shit author is also a shit citizen
Who would've thunk?
>>123969141
Be sure your dick is well-trimmed, anon.
>>123969146
Shame the japanese IRS doesn't have a cool logo we can smack on image macros.
>>123969132
I don't know about japan per se but in murrka, if all that happened was you got lazy and didn't file/pay, and you weren't actively trying to hide income or anything, then generally they're not going to imprison you, they just want their money plus late fees.
>>123969215
>implying taxation isn't theft
>>123969117
>>123969141
>>123969221
This is the closest card I could find to express my feelings...
How did I do /a/?
What if his suddenly founded success and his interactions on /a/ helped him get an irreversibly large sense of ego?
>>123969228
If that's the case in Japan, there shouldn't be too long of a hiatus before he continues his work as an author, right?
>>123969147
Anyone know if these are still open and serve gaijin?
>>123969187
You mean they just come up with bullshit work arounds so they're technically not prostitution as the law describes it.
I don't know why anyone should feel shame for not paying taxes. It's the most honorable type of crime I can think of. You can actually take the moral high road as a tax evader.
>>123968906
This world is too gay.
>>123969092
Someone has his e-mail address, his real address or the address of the prison?
>>123969271
Probably not technically, but who knows how stressed he'll be by the whole thing. Ordinarily they wouldn't even just up and charge you, I mean there's usually months of them sending letters and collections and stuff (again, in murrka) before they start threatening legal action. So I'm wondering if he's just been exhausted by all the publicity and success and ignoring his mail for a year.
>>123969295
Yes. I believe the courts generally interpret the law so that only vaginal sex counts as prostitution. Which is why some brothels specifically have rules against asking for the "real" thing.
He should be charged with fun evasion for creating something so fucking shitty and boring.
Of all the people.
>>123968389
>I've paid my taxes
>The government says he hasn't
Guess who wins.
RIP.
He seemed like a cool guy, too. Shame he had to fuck up so bad.
>>123969369
Him, when he gives japan the bird and boards a flight to America.
I hope everything ends up well for him
>>123968389
guess that's the end of this series
>>123969308
Does someone?
I was just going to set the send address to Database, Japan and hope he gets it.
>>123968422
M2 means "Mama" so in Japanese it's read as "Mamalade Jam"
>>123969222
I'm honestly surprised they don't have some cute 2D mascot girl.
>>123969402
Let's all invite him to come and live in the US, where corporations dodge taxes all the time and everyone looks the other way
![[HorribleSubs] Log Horizon 2 - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.12_[2014.12.29_19.06.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dAJbIUv.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Log Horizon 2 - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.12_[2014.12.29_19.06.48].jpg")
after all this time i finally get to use this image
>>123969389
>Comes to America
>Gets a deal with Harper Collins or Scholastic
> Becomes the Japanese JK Rowling
Feels good man.
>1/5 of the money he made
>>123969440
sides = devastated
>make anime about a jew in MMO
>get locked up for tax evasion and jew activity in real life
Hahahahaha
Nothing of value is lost.
"I've paid my potatoes, but I can't comment."
It looks like ZUN of Touhou has a comment about that.
https://twitter.com/korindo/status/587452689195237376
https://twitter.com/korindo/status/587455433545093120
It seems a he himself had a scare when a taxman visited him a few years ago, and it made him extra careful about taxes from then on. It seems there is difficulty for a creator to make the leap from creating a franchise as a hobby to running a buisness.
It's funny that /a/ shares the same reactions as
I look forward to the parody of this situation in Shirobako season 2.
>>123969228
>>123969271
>>123969132
>...in murrka, if all that happened was you got lazy and didn't file/pay, and you weren't actively trying to hide income or anything, then generally they're not going to imprison you, they just want their money plus late fees.
Actually that varies depending on who you are and what you own. In some cases, the gov't has seized and auctioned off property immediately and used that money to pay the fines. It is THEIR determination as to which will pay off the penalty the soonest. What you can do is get an injunction from the court authorized to hear such requests. If they are backlogged, then you fail. Unlike local criminal cases where the backlog doesn't matter if you start the process, with the IRS injunction, it is your responsibility to actually GET the injunction and not just start the process to stop your property from being sold to eager capitalists. There's a whole industry based upon buying distressed capital and distressed property. The problem is how much collusion all that money can create with IRS and judicial branch employees. You can imagine what happens if a clerk delays filing your papers due to loss or misplace or unknown oops.
>>123969554
I'd her potatoes
>>123969611
And to think, according to >>123969496, the fine upstanding citizen who resists these hopelessly corrupt practices is the "jew"...
>>123969638
They are both jews, end of story. Nothing else to discuss here.
>>123968389
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Tokyo, "it belongs to the poor."
>>123968752
>2002, 80,000 yen
Oh It was so expensive back then. I heard you can buy a girl of that age for 20,000 yen now.
It looks the illegalization caused a collapse of the market rate.
>>123969660
>anyone who has money is a jew
pinko communist liberal hippy please go
which 2hu wud u database?
>>123968682
One is a thought crime and the other is literally a crime. Society wouldn't work if everybody just dodge their taxes
>>123968389
Taxes are theft
Everything is no longer nyanderful.
>>123968389
>being caught not paying your taxes
this is worse that being caught raping someone to the japanese, i hope he doesnt off himself because of the dishonor
Looks like the next time he'll come here, he'll be posting from the jail.
>>123969784
>That price
Nah, you could just went to SE asia and bought 12yo girl for equivalent of 6000 yen.Of course the price will be 4x of that for baka gaijin.
>>123969573
>a fanbase is a fanbase
Wow, didn't expect that!
Why didn't he just pay someone to do taxes for him what a baka
Why couldn't it be Kubo instead?
>>123970040
Maybe he did, but his accountant intentionally misinformed him because why the fuck not.
>>123970097
or miura, togashi
who else i wonder
Mamare you have our support.
>>123968389
> log horizon
> maoyu
Holy fuck... I didn't know he was the author to BOTH really great series. Dude can write really nice stories.
>>123969569
How do you even forget to pay taxes? Do the Japanese have super complex forms that include cows and rupees and number of blades of grass on your lawn?
>>123969573
Not sure what reddit said, but in the last thread people were defending this. (japanese gov't I mean)
>>123970097
Imagine all the drawing blank checks jokes being made if that does happen.
How is 2ch and Japan taking the news?
>>123969228
They'll get your money and THEN imprison you.
He's writing all about economics. But, in real life, he wasn't even smart enough to do an accounting work for himself.
What a joke.
>>123970232
They were singing the lyrics and trying to act witty with it.
>>123970250
>2ch
Most likely they're shitposting him.
>>123969252
He's not going to jail over this m8o
>>123970269
Holy shit you're still butthurt about that? Why don't you just leave?
>>123970229
How do you remember to pay taxes? I'm a NEET. It blows my mind people willingly cut a check to old white men twice a year for 60% of their moneys.
>>123970264
>>123970277
Says the non-taxpayers.
>>123970277
I am surprised such an underwhelming series let him earn 1mil royalties.
Godamm LN novelists are fucking rich. Nowonder Nagaru Tanigawa gives no fuck and stay in hiatus.
He could have paid his taxes if his sister stopped hiding his shoes all the damn time.
He took the POLITICS too far.
>>123970153
Kishimoto and Fukuda.
>>123970514
Your most hated authors are more clean than the guy. Delicious tears.
>>123968389
Good, now I hope we can get Google and Apple to pay the money they made on MY soil.
You work here, you contribute to this country and that means paying taxes.
So is this just going to be a fine?
>>123968682
>evading taxes gets you fucking arrested
Of course. It's how the US government took down Capone. Governments take taxes seriously. If you want to see what happens when they don't, look at Greece.
>>123970585
>It's how the US government took down Capone
What an absolute failure of the justice system.
>>123970584
It makes no fucking sense for the guy to go to jail and the government to lose their tax horse.
So of course it'll be a fine. Unless they are retarded.
>>123970345
Indeed. If LH and Maoyu made~333k a year in royalties imagine how much cash Tanigawa is swimming in.
>>123970610
That they couldn't make anything else stick, or that they locked up a notorious gangster?
>>123968752
>paying 800USD to fuck a 16 year old
Shit man, he should've low balled it and gone for 100.
>>123970635
>Japanese judicial system
>not retarded
Pick one.
>>123970652
The former. It's downright pathetic that there are people who point that as an example of "The justice system works!" when he was sentenced for tax evasion and not the countless other, more serious crimes he committed.
>>123970665
Should have just offered her a phone or a Gameboy or some shit. Kids are fucking dumb, they have no concept of actual money.
>>123968389
Oh fuck I need to do my taxes
>>123970734
He was just that good at killing and intimidating witnesses.
>>123969304
yeah bro fucking minors should totally be legal, fucking normalfags
>>123968906
You're not a legal adult until 20 in Japan.
>>123968389
I doubt he'll do any time if he just pays what he's due.
It depends on how systematic it is I guess. I'd wager he's just fucked up his accounting somewhere by mistake though.
imouto will save the day
>>123970242
>sir we have a problem
>what is it?
>there is this guy who keep sending blank checks and only occasionally does he write something
>what is it?
>the heart
>>123969132
As a general rule, you only go to prison for tax evasion if the government wants you in prison and can't convict you of an actual crime. For example, Al Capone. Otherwise, you just pay them a lot of money. Putting someone in prison costs the government money, while the point of enforcing tax is to get the government money. But pretty much any time the government sends someone to prison on tax charges, it's political. Even Conrad Black and Martha Stewart type shit.
What's this about Mamare's sister? Is she a brocon or something?
>>123971062
Read the Q&As he did here
>>123968691
Why? There are pencils in jail.
He can write from there.
>>123969496
Anon, you heartless bastard.
Hoping the next volume has tax related stuff
Does anyone have pics of him now that we got his real name?
>>123968389
>I've paid my taxes
That's what they all say.
>>123971241
Did he ever do a book-signing session?
>>123970974
>time to cash out
>sir! someone drained our pension money
>another check arrives
>since when were you under the impression this was my checkbook?
>>123971256
Then the accountant laughs all the way to the bank.
Is that his house in the video?
Unsurprisingly, every Japanese artist/writer on Twitter is now talking about tax evasion and how to evade it
At least he didn't die of japanese cold
>>123971310
Tax evasion evasion? That's high level.
Don't worry, he will write a magical contract to evade it,r-right?
>>123971344
>h-he's fast
>>123971330
If he's found guilty, the shame will be unbearable and he will have to kill himself with Japanese cold.
Serves him right for not coming here again during S2
What's the deal with rich people not paying their taxes?
>>123971376
You don't deserve it.
what if, this is the ploy of the Villain that his imouto hates to increase his sales?
>>123971350
>A magical contract made from Obama's eye ink and Netanyahu's skin paper.
>>123971350
Getting caught was a part of his plan.
"Don't worry, Tax-san. I have the tax filings that prove my innocence safely stored on my database."
>>123968775
remindershe's totally tsundere
I'm back, missed my waifu, stupid police didn't even find my other bank account
>>123971459
CRASHING THE TAX OFFICE WITH NO SURVIVORS.
>>123969132
The IRS got Al Capone when even the FBI couldn't get him.
Also, plenty of black celebrities have tried to run away from the IRS, even escaping to another country, but still got caught by the IRS in the end.
Celebrities have no mercy from the IRS.
The only mercy I can recall is toward corporations, itself, not famous people.
>>123971480
It's obvious here who is the tsundere.
>>123971482
2/10
for trying
>>123971534
Kill yourself.
>30 millions yens
Isn't that insame amout of money for someone like Mamare? Surely he couldn't get rich from something like LH.
>>123969228
Treatment by the IRS greatly differs by which IRS agent handles your case.
You could get the common sense rational IRS agent or the ego tripping, power hungry IRS agent
>>123971498
Mamare is the hero the anime community deserved, but not the one it needs right now.
>>123971571
The font stands out too much.
>>123971577
He could be doing shady shit on the side if he is willing to tax evade if he actually was caught tax evading.
MAOYU Season 2 never?
>>123971571
Also, no Free! on the list.
Mamare is still a good guy simply because he actually came here and answered questions for us. Also, his sister is best girl.
>>123971571
>imposing an anime embargo on Australia
Care to explain, mate?
>>123971577
That's like $300,000. Seems reasonable for 2 popular light novel series with anime and manga adaptations.
>>123971577
>>123971640
Also it's over 3 years. 100k/year in taxes isnt out of ridiculous
>>123971636
It's just /a/ shitting on creators for no reason. As always.
Nyan in jail.
Will have this been the first manga to go on hiatus/cancelled because the author is in jail?
>Write book about jewing
>Commit tax evasion
What a surprise.
>>123971685
They can still work on the manga in jail, you know.
>>123970229
I imagine an author's income comes from multiple sources based on how much there works have sold and licensing deals with anime studios and foreign distributors rather than a set contract with a firm for X amount so it's probably pretty easy to forget to declare one form of income.
>>123971577
Usually you make more money than you owe in taxes.
>>123968389
>>123960765
>So it's most likely his accountant, or whoever that's supposed to be handling his money, fucking him over.
>It's most likely his relative. This kind of thing happens a lot actually in Asia. Where you are an entertainer/movie actor/idooru and you let your family handle your finance and they fuck you over by missing tax payments for you.
>Because your family wouldn't screw you over, right?
2 years of my cellmate's semen flowed into my ass with a wet, glopping sound
>>123971685
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsutoshi_Shimabukuro
>>123971511
Corporations aren't people.
>>123971511
Scientfuckerstology. I dont know if they got around that in the end.
>>123971796
They are in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.
>>123971748
wrong author.
>>123971796
US law says corporations can be defined as people.
>>123969569
Do they not have accountants in nipland?
Japanese prison is hardcore.
No rape but the isolation will break you due to all the space allowed for isolation cells which ironically are used as punishment in US but are regular treatment for all prisoners in Japan.
>>123970229
>How do you even forget to pay taxes? Do the Japanese have super complex forms that include cows and rupees and number of blades of grass on your lawn?
ZUN said that it is what happens when someone who used to just break even playing a hobby, all of a sudden became successful due to a breakthrough hit. If you never had to pay taxes before because your old desk job pre-deduct your taxes and your hobby was not profitable, then once you quit your job and started doing your hobby full time, it is easy to forget that you would need to pay taxes now that you are your own boss.
>>123971877
>Do they not have accountants in nipland?
For many people in this situation, it is the first time they became their own boss. If you never worked for yourself before, you might not know you need an accountant.
>>123971827
They got around by being bigger assholes than the mob.
>>123968389
That sure is a lot of money. Now what, will it now have to go to the databasewow wow?
>>123971908
On the same token, Japanese people are a lot more subservient to punishment. It's not the same as holding the American monkeys in isolation.
>>123971930
A bunch of the patreon ebeggar crowd (including moviebob lol) are getting fucked by this and getting tax bills they can't pay.
Season 3 never ever
>>123971930
>Zun said
How was he sober long enough to say something sensible?
>>123972228
You don't have to be sober to string together 2 reasonable sentances.
>>123972228
>How was he sober long enough to say something sensible?
ZUN is always drinking. But that doesn't mean he is drunk all the time.
>>123971930
Shit, I wanted to make aporn game
What do I need to know about taxes?
>>123972300
How much do you expect to earn from your porn game?
>>123971753
>In 2002, he was arrested and convicted of violating child prostitution laws, including paying a 16-year-old girl ¥80,000 to have sex.[2][3][4][5] As a result of the arrest, Seikimatsu Leader Den Takeshi! was cancelled by Weekly Shōnen Jump.[6] Shimabukuro was sentenced to two years in prison, however the sentence was suspended.
>however the sentence was suspended.
Oh Japan~
>>123968389
>Taking a break from studying for my fed tax exam
>Decide to browse /a/ with my abridged copy of the Internal Revenue Code still sitting on my lap
>See this thread
Well, damn. I hope marmalade makes it out okay. Wish I could do something to help.
>>123968389
Good I hope they throw him in with sodomites
and when he comes out of prison he'll have an arse like a canoe
>>123968389
this is hilarious, he truly is one of us after all so this makes sense.
>man fails to file a report on earnings to protection racket so they can extort a significant percent of it from him under the pretence of providing "protective services".
>>123972321
If I'm lucky enough, 5k a year.
>>123972334
>defending taxes
Good Goy.
>>123969233
>Implying it's not actually slavery
>>123972385
That is more than what I earn now
>>123972323
It's a consensual crime; a suspended sentence is entirely appropriate.
That was the plan, let's wait for his next move.
>>123972427
>Mamare reforms Japanese tax system
>>123972382
Ron Paul plz.
Mamare why
What would your sister think?
Now you're going to lose all your left shoes!
>>123970305
Dude, the highest marginal rate is only 40%.
>>123972408
It's not slaves have more rights and guaranteed work.
>>123971617
>Willing to tax evade
You say that like he wasn't just sitting in his room putting off filing taxes like we all put off life.
>have to give the government part of the dosh I earned
Literally retarded.
>>123972505
the face of a hardened criminal. he clearly has no remorse.
>>123972505
Is that TouMAN?
>>123972427
Was getting caught part of his plan?
>>123972526
>putting off filing taxes like we all put off life.
>>123972571
>Fuko da
Living in the prisonbase the prisonbase wow wow
>>123972416
It's more than what I earn right now too.
That's why I want to get so much, so I can quit my job and lead the doujin indie dev hikki life.
>>123972526
I can't put off things that I don't have.
fkn NEETs, when will they learn...
>>123972526
> just sitting in his room putting off filing taxes like we all put off life.
>>123972505
Is that really him? He is fucking ugly
>>123972588
TAX EVASION RISING
>>123972574
Of course.
>>123972627
He writes books for otaku. What did you expect?
>The data is all gone
mamare gonna use this defence on how he forgot to pay tax.
>41 years old
Dayum.
>>123972627
>implying you aren't uglier than that.
>>123972534
>The government that takes care of your shit when you flush it
>To government that makes sure there is running water for your showers
>The government that helps keep the lights on
>The government that paved the road you walk and drive on
>They government that makes sure the food you eat isn't filled with shit and rat poison
>The government that makes sure the medicine you take isn't filled with paint thinner
>The government that stopped ISPs from charging a premium to visit other sites like cable does with channels.
People that don't support government, even with all it's flaws are literally retarded. Anarchy is a fairy tale for stupid edgy teens with no concept of the real world.
>>123972505
He needed the money to buy an island and mindbreak you're waifu in doujins.
>>123972300
>What do I need to know about taxes?
If you make money, you owe money.
Get an accountant.
>>123972684
My mom says I'm handsome and she wouldn't ever lie to me!
The anime went downhill mid season 2.. Nothing of value was lost.
I wonder what's on thehorizonfor the manga then.
>>123972689
>Replying seriously to a retarded manchild.
>>123972725
And here we go again.
Financial Police confirmed as Log Horizon final boss.
>>123972300
You probably don't have to worry about tallying up and deducting your business expenses, as you're probably not going to itemize unless you have a primary residence mortgage and/or a lot of hospital bills. And I don't suppose you donate much to charity, either.
Just keep track of any money, "donations", etc. that you get and put that down on your 1099-MISC form. Reminder that sponsorship on Patreon IS income and not a gift.
>>123972627
Just like the author of Oreimo, SAO etc
>>123972689
I don't follow. Isn't it the best to get all this shit from the gov and still keep your dosh?
>>123972725
SPOTTED THE RETARD.
>>123972689
>implying the government can't do all that without taking my hard earned cash
YOU ONLY HAVE 10 SECONDS TO DEFEND MAMARE FROM HIS CHARGE WITH YOUR ARGUMENTS OR I'LL EAT YOUR SOULS!
>>123972818
Okay retard, if no one paid taxes, how would the government afford to do all these things?
>>123972856
Ask for donations to further improve the country.
Good. One less shitty LN author.
>>123972836
The government take your hard earned cash to buy your president a private jet that only the president can use.
