This is not Arc.
good. i dont want that old lady in the new vn
>>122232195
No its Arcueid
>>122232290
This
>>122232195
then who is she?
Mirror Arc.
>>122232195
Arcueid isn't such a slut.
>>122232290
>>122232307
Back to /reddit/ with your underdeveloped shit taste. You have no class and your manners are reeking of shit.
>>122232195
What happened to her long purple skirt? Illya, Arc, and post HF Sakura have the only nice clothes I've seen Takeuchi design.
This shit has gone too far.He's turning everyone into a Saber clone. He's going to ruin Tsukihime with his Saber garbage.We need to behead Takeuchi before it's too late.
Who's with me?
>>122232338
Reddit don't even know what Tsukihime is.
>>122232195
Why are they cloning Saber again?
>>122233018
Exactly, that's why Takeuchi turned Arc into a Saber clone. They want the reddit audience.
>>122233111
You mean the guys who are just now discovering the work that was written ten years ago?
>>122233111
> Takeuchi turned Arc into a Saber clone
The fuck are you talking about? Something was leaked about the remake?
Fate/Shit faggots should be executed, you're the reason why Type-Moon is pure cancer right now.
>>122232195
>Different clothes
>It's not Arc anymore
Fuck off. I like Arc for her fun personality not her granny skirt
Personally I prefer the Arcueid who doesn't dress like an educated prostitute.
>>122232381
Now you've seen another, along with any yukata that Shiki wears.
>>122233240
>granny skirt
You probably liked Aoko and Rin's mini skirts too.
>>122232318
Arcade Bumstead
>>122233240
this so fucking much
>>122232195
Will Takeuchi draw that shirt again?It was in Carnival Phantasm so he has to.
>>122233240
I bet you also wouldn't care if she'd fucked 50 men in the past you brainwashed cuck.
>>122233393
>cuck
nice meme
What is your controversial Type Moon opinion?
>>122233430
If you like a woman who dresses like a prostitute in public then you are certainly a cuckold.
>>122233437
Aoko should have been the main heroine of Tsukihime.
>>122233437
Fate is my favourite route
>>122233338
Just finished it few days ago
How could arc was a main heroine if she is not relevant in more than half the story ?
It should be Akiha.
>>122233393
She wasn't so it's moot point. But I like Kohaku despite her rape past
>>122233552
Arc route best route
>>122233437
Takeuchi is on the right track and all heroines should be Sabers.
>>122233552
Blame Nasu.
>>122233552
Kohaku's route was the main route, but, personally, I like Arcueid more. She was fun
>>122233437
I enjoyed the Fate route
>>122233554
>But I like Kohaku despite her rape past
I'm not surprised. I bet you'd like to watch her get raped right in front of your eyes.
>>122233552
It's called Tsukihime for a reason and if there ever gonna be sequel it will follow her route
This is an arc.
>>122233718
Please, stop ;_;
>>122232337
Read the Ciel good end. When Ciel says that she and Shiki have gotten intimate, Arc grabs Shiki and just kisses him in front of Ciel while they're in public and says:
>"See, it's easy. Ciel, you're pretty stupid to feel like you're insured by doing something anyone can do. What are you thinking, trying to go against me with just one act of love?"
Arc is slutty. She ascribes no significance to physical acts of love so she has no inhibitions regarding them. A mini-skirt fits her fine.
>>122233437
Tohno Shiki can kill berserker.
>>122233740
I want a short spinoff with Altrouge as the main heroine.
We had this concept for Ciel among the other heroines, and that's why I wanted 30 days. For her. She would appear in the first 3-4 days, then there would be a week of school life. I thought that would be fun for the player.
But then a certain event comes afterwards. I just wanted 30 days to express that "everyday life." On the contrary, that long 30-days span was like shackles for Arcueid.
In the end, we decided on 10 days, and it became what it is now, but Ciel really changed from our initial concept of her. Maybe it's too bad that we couldn't really express the importance of mundane everyday life. But yeah, 30 days...I remember when he first told me "We can't do 30 days," I was really irritated. I didn't want to do it any other way. That was in 1999, around Dec. 25. That caused some trouble. Around that time, I was working as a helper for a certain game company, sort of fixing up the scenarios for a certain game. And I would say stuff like: "This introduction is completely useless. Who would want to sit through this?" ... "Who would want to sit through 30 days?" That's when I realized. And I picked up the phone and said: "I'm sorry. I'll rewrite it. You were right."
>Nasu: We had to give the Kohaku scenario an ending, and I didn't have confidence in that. No matter what way I did it, it would end up tainting the ending in the Hisui scenario.
So I didn't want to write something like that. I spent painstaking hours thinking of a plot, and then showed it to Takeuchi without much confidence. I decided I couldn't be confident in it unless he gave me the OK. He was the meter that measured us all, so his OK was always the final word. Eventually, he called me back: "It's good. Write it." "Alright, I'm off to die now," I said (Laughs). It took about ten days to get the Kohaku scenario ready. I wrote one day's worth of game time in one day's worth of real time.
I couldn't take even a single day off...in the beginning it was fine, but as I reached the climax, I started to go numb. My mental state was really in the red zone. Before a really difficult scene, I decided to take a rest...and what do you know, I was working on it in my dream! (Laughs)
>>122233437
Saber is top cuck.
>>122233437
it all sucks.
>>122233854
>Altrouge
All I know she is arc sister and she steal her hair.
Where is her name stated on the game ?
>Nasu: Vampires in the first half, and then Shiki appears in the second half...people have already played through that pattern. And the Kohaku route was designed basically with the assumption that players already kind of know how the story goes. So we had Shiki leave early on purpose.
There was one more thing we wanted to do -- put in dialog between the vampires. So we just went ahead and made it. At this point, Shiki's drugged and lost his reason. So they sort of talk to each other with no real idea of what's going on...he's kind of on a high, even though all the dangerous things about him are visible. It's like talking with the old Shiki, a conversation that hits you deep. That's what I was aiming for.
>>122233865
I wonder if Nasu go with original plan for remake or at least add few days
>>122233901
>in the beginning it was fine, but as I reached the climax, I started to go numb.
That explain the climax is shit.
Nasu: I told Takeuchi, "I'll leave the erotic bits to you. You can think about the situations, the flow, everything." So Takeuchi would sketch something up and show me. "It's going to start like this, continue like this, and finish like this."
"Yes, sir!" I said, and just wrote what he told me to. Erotic parts are hard.
So is Nasu a grill?
>>122233552
Akiha wasn't relevant in more than half the story either. Don't be a hypocrite.
>>122234049
>Takeuchi: I think of them as a way to show and express the cute aspects of the characters. I think there are a lot of games that only depict them in a sexual nature. But I'm not interested in that. I think the scenes should be erotic, yet in character for each specific character, emphasizing their personalities. So I would think up a concept for each character and then show it to Nasu.
>Oh, yes. I spent a lot of time on my own thinking about Hisui.
>I didn't have any real plan. I just drew the first things that came to mind with Hisui. I really drew a lot, and I liked every idea. "I want to use this...and this, and this..." I said, when I handed them over to Nasu. There was no real coherence. And then this random finger licking scene comes out. "I don't care if we have to force it, let's use this. Please, just make something up," I said.
>Takeuchi: In Fate, everyone lives together due to mutual needs. In Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, the three characters don't live together out of necessity. As their values clash, they also begin to accept each other's values, and in doing so, their characters evolve. This chaotic but slowly evolving cohabitation is one of the biggest charms of the game.
>Living together like that is different from renting the same apartment together. Think suddenly dropping someone in, and they just start living together. You could say this fantasy grew out of this "cohabitation." Also, in Fate, Shirou's house is a traditional Japanese house, but in this game, the house is a Western-styled house, which is another difference in theme. If you want to give it another name, how about "joyful mansion cohabitation AVG." (laughs)
>>122234049
>erotic parts are hard
>>122233210
They're also the only reason you're getting anything at all.
>Takeuchi: As everyone already knows, Tsukihime is the doujin game from when we first started. Since its release, the doujin group TYPE-MOON became a company, and works like Fate were released, so we've always been thinking when to commercialize Tsuhime. However, time constraints became more and more frequent, and we missed many opportunities to do a remake. The doujin group TYPE-MOON was formed in the summer of 1999, next year will be our 10th anniversary. This is a great time for a remake, or rather, if we miss this opportunity again, we won't get another chance. So we thought that we can't let this chance go no matter what.
>This remake will need to satisfy the needs of both players who played the original Tsukihime 10 years ago as well as those who just recently came into contact with it; this is a fine balance that is one of the biggest difficulties facing us. Not to say knowing where to begin is already something very scary. In the past we simply say to each other "so when are we going to remake Tsukihime?" Just presenting it in the same form as the original game would be an embarrassment to us. As a result, we're not facing a difficult battle (laughs). Production will officially begin after Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is finished, the reason we announced it so early is because announcing them together creates more impact, please understand (sweat).
>>122233240
Yeah, it's not like most people are upset about her now having the same face of a generic Saberclone.
>Takeuchi: The original doujin game is something that is very hard to come by nowadays, so we feel bad for not releasing a remake for those who have always wanted to try out this game. If one wants to know the content of the story, one can go read the manga Shingetsutan Tsukihime. The manga version is a pictorial representation of Nasu's work. The excellence of the Tsukihime manga has also become a great challenge that we need to surpass for the Tsukihime remake (laughs). We hope to create a game that can be enjoyed differently than the manga version.
>>122234361
She looks like a Hime from Tsuki no Sango and I like that.
>Takeuchi: Akiha's an A cup, HisuKoha are C cups. Ciel and Arc are E cups. But you know, Ciel's true best point is her ass. (LOL)
Not really her ass, more her entire posterior! It makes you say "Damn, look at what she's got down there."
>>122233173
Hisui's redesign got leaked
>>122234737
Just kill me already, have mercy
>>122234784
>Takeuchi: You can't love all of your children.
>>122234737
Takeuchi may be a Saberfag, but he'd never put Hisui, his own character in an outfit like that.
Long skirt suits her more than that shit.
>>122233437
Rin is a huge bitch and failure of a big sister who should have died in HF.
>>122233437
Type Moon is a scam company that publishes turds glorified with gallons of hype.
Nasu is so a writer so shitty that people's brain can't process his crap and take its shittyness as style, filling the blanks with fanwank
Takeuchi art worked like Zun art, with the exception he's obnoxious about it and doesn't have any redeeming feature. he's the original modern "generic anime style", that is like saying heàs the original knockoff of a vague idea and not a precise product
fuck typeshit
I don't know
I like it
>ITT people always wear the same outfit
Which do you prefer, /a/?
I just want the intakes back.
>>122235764
But they don't.
>>122235896
Intakes are shit. Go back to the early 2000s.
>>122235896
I miss the intakes more than the dress.
On the whole though as far as I'm concerned there was really nothing wrong with Arc's design at all that warranted a redo, so as far as your question goes it's 4.
>>122235896
2 is the best
>Character changes clothes
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW NOT SAEM PERSON ANEMORE
Literal. Autism. Like literally. This IS how autists think.
>>122235896
3 or 4 are fine.
>7 Years
>>122236018
First time I've seen "literal" used correctly on /a/. Bravo.
>>122235896
1 is best.
>>122235960
fuck you I like hair vents
>>122235896
Mmmmm, that 5
>>122236018
I wouldn't mind just a change of clothes, but a slutty miniskirt? Really?
>>122236172
Arc is a slutty airhead, so it's more in-character.
>>122235896
Any would be fine. Her outfit won't change the fact that she's best girl.
>>122236172
At least it's not fucking ZR. So they showed 'some' restraint.
>>122236192
> Never had sex in 800+ years
> slutty
Yeah, sure
>>122236068
>"literal" used correctly
except that it's not how autism works. it's how prosopagnosia works.
>>122236262
That's only because she was sleeping.
>>122236018
Something like this would be more comparable, in a lesser degree, to a brand changing their logo and getting rid of something iconic rather than a person changing their clothes. Usually when doing re designs they try to keep key elements. Not autism these are probably some similar complaints a company would hear if say, McDonalds got rid of their golden arches. People don't like when something they are familiar with changes.
>>122233437
Sakura and Ciel are my favourite girls.
>>122233018
It's literally one of the most entry level VNs you sperg.
>>122236242
>hating on ZR
Honestly, it's just the air intakes that I really miss. You could argue the mini-skirt, but I just want my air intakes
>>122236297
Before she met Shiki she was just a simple killing machine, not interested in anything but destroying Roa
>>122236490
Then Shiki cut her so badly that she turned into a slut.
It's not that. Actually, I quite like Type-Moon's visual novels.
But they have already been discussed to death. Type-Moon threads always end up being stupid pointless arguments about the same topics, and they get old really quickly
>>122233437
Ciel had the best Tsukihime route and the best development.
Akiha had the worst and was worst girl although her sex was great for cherry popped and DFC childhood friend.
>>122236525
Not a slut, just the weirdo we know and love
>>122236525
That's the power of the Tohno Gland.
>>122236593
>love
Speak for yourself.
>>122236634
>hating arucueido
>>122236018
>Visual character design shouldn't reflect the character's personality at all
>>122236452
pantyhose > ZR
>>122236676
Why would I like a girl that alternates between airhead with no common sense and homicidal monster?
>>122236721
Why wouldn't you?
>>122232195
Yes she is.
>thinking TM will ever touch tsuki again
Nigga please. We all know where their focus is.
>>122236855
>>122236855
Tsukihime is still popular with the hardcore TM fanbase and people did like older TM stuff like Kara No Kyoukai.
However the story would have to be reworked for an anime and Nasu would have to restructure parts to make them fit a linear progression as well as be more interesting.
>>122236399
You... I like you.
>>122236399
Mine too.
>>122236855
After TM is done with Fate anime we will probably see Tsukihime again
>>122236855
Bazett a q.t.
>>122232195
This is Arc
>>122237084
Thanks.
>>122236399
My man
>>122237001
What about other details? Like earlier plot branching, additional focus on the girls in their respective routes, etc?
>>122233437
I like both Aozaki girls equally.
>>122237123
She was originally supposed to be the heroine of Tsuki 2. And then got re-assigned to Fate because TM realized they were never making a Tsuki 2.>there will never be a Tsuki 2
>>122237001
Just animate the manga and you good to go
>>122233437
I love Sakura and just want her to be happy
>>122236407
>It's literally one of the most entry level VNs you sperg.
It's absolutely NOT.
Following kids' logic Tsukihime is way too old VN and it looks like retro "outdated" project.
>>122238101
Ahahaha. Are you serious? Tsukihime is the 8th most popular VN on VNDB.
>>122238226
>VNDB
are you serious?
>>122238226
Saya no Uta and G-senjou no Maou are higher, thus making them more entry level than Tsukihime :^).
I love Ciel. Senpai has always been best TM girl for me.
Best battle nun.
Best combat boots.
Best threesome with pilebunker.
>>122238771
>I love Ciel. Senpai has always been best TM girl for me.
>>122233689
>sequel
Nasu doesn't make proper sequels. If he does, it's a sequel in the Nasu-verse and only associating with past works through setting alone. That and those non-canon sequels.
TM Best Girl Ranking:
1) Sakura
2) Ciel
3) Riesbyfe
>>122239983
> it's a sequel in the Nasu-verse and only associating with past works through setting alone
Not necessarily a bad thing
>>122240025
>>122239806
Is it me or there is something weird with Ciel's tits in this picture? Where did they go when she put her jacket on?
>>122240328
boob hidey jacket rune of magic
use your brain dipshit
>>122232195
I have no problem about Arcueid wearing that for Shiki for kinky outdoors sex.
>>122233111
What? last time I check, /a/ is the most saberfag-infested board though.
>>122233608
Ouch, Sensei doesn't pull her punches.
>>122233504
You are right, I hope the remake gives us the Sensei route.
She is the Sixth Heroine, right?
>>122240771
Shit, man. A sensei route would be fucking amazing.
>>122240771
>Sensei route before Sacchin
Isn't it sad Sacchin?
>>122233608
aren't they forgetting someone?
>>122240890
Not even the Holy Grail could give Sacchin a route.
>>122240822
Sensei needs her route, Nasu what are you doing. We all know that Sensei needs to win with her Shounen H plan.
>>122240890
That's how life is, and who cares about Sacchin.
>>122240969
She was his first lay, but not his first love!
>More routes
As nice as that might be, Nasu should focus on tightening up what's already there. Arc and Ciel share a route that should be split up more neatly and Kohaku's length is a joke. Between that and rewriting? Any attempt at a new route would make the whole game a mess again.
>>122241246
It would be pretty hard to make the routes more unique like Fate, UBW and HF.
>>122232338
The best Arc design in the past 15 years
>>122233608
Aoko really doesn't pull any punches, does she?
>>122233865
>the entire story of tsukihime lasted only 10 days a route
>>122237123
Bazett is a Cu lover though. If she's in any harem, it's only in Cu's.
>>122241246
>not having an Aoko or Sion route
pls
>>122241422
Not really, no. Aoko is pretty cold when she wants to be.
>>122242180
>Sion route
How would that work?
>>122242291
By disregarding Melty Blood continuity-wise or possibly having the Sion True End be Shiki somehow killing her memories of him so that she thinks the first time they've met is in MB and he has to act like it's their first time.
>>122238372
Saya nop Uta is actually entry level, though mostly for Russians.
>>122242291
They introduce the Melty Blood scenario after the tsukihime events, or something. Basically Shiki meets an Alchemists and makes her his new waifu.
>>122233686
>implying I don't want to hug her and tell her no one will ever abuse her again
>>122234463
But anon, that's the Moon Girl, not Hime.
>>122232195
It's just teenaged Arc. Can't have a full grown woman in a vn, japanese can't handle.
>>122232195
Oh, Takeuchi drew a new Saber again? Man, the guy has no self-control.
Arcfags are probably tied with Nanayafags for absolute worst TM fanbase.
>>122245150
You haven't seen the rest of the TM fanbase if you believe that.
>>122245269
Shinjifags and Gilfags can be pretty bad too, you're right. I like homofags, but why do homofag fanbases tend to be so awful?
![the-treachery-of-images-this-is-not-a-pipe-1948(2)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tub6m7T.jpg "the-treachery-of-images-this-is-not-a-pipe-1948(2)[1].jpg")
>>122232195
>>122243516
>It's just teenaged Arc. Can't have a full grown woman in a vn, japanese can't handle.
Arc is not a teenager. And she's not a full grown woman either.
She's in her early 20 and is completely unfamiliar with a casual life. Her clothes and her actions were well managed by the old good Type-Moon but now Arc looks like a teenager idol who is actually fitting pretty damn well in our modern society.
That's weird.
>>122245436
>Shinjifags and Gilfags can be pretty bad too, you're right. I like homofags, but why do homofag fanbases tend to be so awful?
>>122245150
>Arcfags are probably tied with Nanayafags for absolute worst TM fanbase.
No one would actually take your dumb opinion serious.
>>122246385
>autismcraft
>>122238101
Are you implying that this wasn't an entry level VN 8 years ago?
>>122246502
Being one of a very tiny amount of translated VNs was not the same as being "entry level" back then. And it's not entry level today either.
>>122246679
If Tsukihime isn't entry level then what is?
>>122246778
Fate?
>>122246385
>defending Shinjifags
>Arc autismcraft image
>>122246679
I'm curious what counts as "entry level'. Katawa Shoujo, for exampe ,is likely the first VN for many western fans but does it count? I admit the 1st VN I played was Phoenix Wright but that's rather loosely a VN.
I don't consider Tsukihime to be entry level, but that doesn't make it good.
>>122246843
Anywhere you get used to the format and the standards of it. To an extent, Madden was the introduction for a lot of people to RPG gameplay.
>>122246957
So something like Katawa Shoujo would count? I think Phoenix Wright's too different to fall under that definition.
