Ok, I can understand the appeal of tsunderes when they're done right, but why the fuck to people still obsess over tsunderes? They are arguably the most overused character archetype in anime/manga/etc.
The only good tsunderes I can think of are Asuka from EVA, Rin from F/sn, and Emi Yusa from Hataraku Maou-sama.
Tsunderes these days are annoying as fuck and succeed in doing nothing but piss you off with their predictable nature. And the worst part is that tsunderes keep getting more and more unlikable to to point that they come off like violent, ill-tempered maniacs.
tl;dr: I fucking hate tsunderes and you have shit taste if you think they're great.
Quit being so tsun for tsunderes.
The dere makes you feel like you tamed a beast.
> Emi Yusa from Hataraku Maou-sama
ahahahahahahahaha
Let's just get this out of the way.
>>121879112
Bullshit. The MC falling for the tsundere means that he got pussywhipped.
>>121879226
Kill yourself.
>>121879024
OP here. I forgot that Kurisu from Steins;Gate was technically a tsundere too, but she was actually done right too so she's an example of a good tsundere.
>>121879024
They're overused because people obsess over them. People like the expected.
Plus you know, probably 90% of watchers hope the girls around them that act like they hate them are secretly in love.
>>121879112
>tamed
>implying it doesn't mean that you've been indoctrinated into the tsundere cult
Tsunderes are like Scientologists. They're all trying to brainwash you into thinking that they're great.
>>121879231
this. I don't mind tsuderes in themselves, I mind that other characters tolerate them and even worse forgive them.
>>121879226
Take Tohsaka and Emi off that list.
>>121879309
I really hate how retarded otaku can be.
>>121879475
Oh, it's not just Otaku.
>>121879880
>hating escapism
“Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!”
J.R.R. Tolkien
>>121879226
>biri biri
>shit
she's dere 90% of the time
>>121879946
Did you really just quote Tolkien in defense of tsunderes?
>>121880064
No.
Most Tsunderes or rather anime characters in general are badly written.
>>121880101
Then why do you even watch anime?
Why live?
>>121880101
Then what are you trying to say with that quote exactly?
>>121879024
>people still call Asuka a tsundere
>>121879024
>The only good tsunderes I can think of are Asuka from EVA, Rin from F/sn, and Emi Yusa from Hataraku Maou-sama.
Troll thread
>>121880145
I think anon is trying to say escapism (otaku culture) is a good thing.
>>121880145
That there is no inherent problem in escapism which the post I quoted seemed to imply
>>121880174
Well, she pretty much stated the whole tsundere trend in the first place anon. I dunno what else to call her.
>>121880199
Yeah but escapism in what sense? If you're talking about escapism in general then you're going off topic here.
>>121880398
Insane bitch.
>>121880398
Considering that Anno specifically created Asuka and Rei to mock the archetypesand failed spectacularly, I'm certain there were tsunderes before.
Besides, to be a tsundere, you need dere.
Asuka had no dere. She was just an aggressive bitch with heavy emotional issues trying to compensate for her abandonment and inferiority complex.
>>121879112
Tsunderes are great because they're usually the only characters who treat the MC the way they deserve to be treated.
Granted, some go overboard with physical abuse and whatnot.
>>121880553
Well, she did caress Shinji's cheek at the end of EoE.
>>121879946
>>121880199
The post you quoted was implying that it's not just "otaku" that are "retarded" but rather that the characteristics in question were far more widespread.
Seriously, have you seen any RomComs lately?
>>121880810
>Seriously, have you seen any RomComs lately?
No
>>121880553
>to mock the archetypes
I thought he liked them.
>>121880639
Why no Rhino edit?
>>121881019
>Anno
>liking anything
>>121881055
Worst forced meme.
>>121879024
>Asuka
>Emi
>good
>>121879024
>tl;dr: Stop liking what I don't like
No. Now enjoy this picture of Shana.
>>121881272
>Kurisu
>bad
But that's wrong
>>121881426
He's right.
She is shit
>>121879024
>but why the fuck to people still obsess over tsunderes
It's masochism, basically. Nobody who watches animu doesn't hate himself.
Best tsundere coming through.
>>121881272
Lum is not a tsundere.
>The only good tsunderes I can think of are Asuka from EVA
>Asuka
>good tsundere
>>121879024
Why don't we just make an anime filled with emotionless husks of characters
>shit b8 m8
Hitagi best ironic tsundere.
>>121881272
>Shiki
>tsundere
What? She's more kuu if anything
>>121881639
>being a faggot
I bet you fap to turbogay JoJo doujins.
>>121881272
>the best tsunderes are the ones that aren't really tsunderes
I'm ok with this.
>>121879175
>Sinon but no Asuna
>>121881777
Free! isn't gay at all.
>>121881722
But Senjougahara is a kuudere rather than a tsundere.
>>121881852
No wonder fujos bought it in droves
>>121881655
According to Wikipedia:
"Comiket organizer Koichi Ichikawa has described Lum Invader of Urusei Yatsura as being both the source of moe and the first tsundere;[5] figurine sculptor Bome has also cited Lum as an inspiration for his designs.[6]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere
>>121881875
There's a reason why I said "ironic": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_mtIYV0iqo
>>121881758
Where's the "sleep with me" webm when you need it.
>>121881951
I don't have the webm, but here's a picture
>>121879024
The shitty writing and archtypes is what make it so hard to enjoy anime these days.
Not to make any trouble but I liked BB way more than Rin.
>>121881738
I actually liked Minami. Her sheer amount of failures made her an entertaining character.
>>121881722
Senjougahara is just a smug, obnoxious bitch who thinks she can make death threats or abuse people and get away with it. There's absolutely nothing appealing or special in her character. She is mediocre at best.
Im sorry but only Kuuderes can prevail
![[FFF] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. - 01 [D7EB6D22].mkv_snapshot_07.49_[2015.01.17_16.27.54].png](https://i.imgur.com/ROFkMf7.jpg "[FFF] Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. - 01 [D7EB6D22].mkv_snapshot_07.49_[2015.01.17_16.27.54].png")
>>121882361
tfw can't pick best girl between Yukinon or Yuigahama.
>>121882268
shes the best
>>121881639
good taste
>>121881777
>2015
>not fapping to turbogay jojo doujins
>>121882268
>Crab will never give you a cute death threat
Why live.
Male tsunderes will always be superior in every single aspect.
