>Goes on a 1 year hiatus to fap to Idolm@ster
>Releases 4 new chapter in the span of 7 months
>goes on another hiatus to play idolm@ster, again
I have this undesirable feeling he'll die before the series ends.;______;
Oh, look, yet another retard who took iM@S joke seriously.
>>121672205
From where did this shit start? I see a lot of retards everywhere blaming idolm@ster for berserk hiatus.
What happened to him actually. The was last berserk chapter was in october 2014 I think. That´s really long even for miura. I don´t want berserk to be another MM!
The editor for Berserk is just trying to hide the truth from the world: Miura is dead. For the entirety of Berserk's hiatus, a new artist has been trained to replicate Miura's style so that he can take over, and a new writer was also hired and has been trying to piece together the remaining story using Miura's notes and filling in the gaps to the best of his ability. When they are deemed ready, Berserk will return. The most recent batch of chapters was a test, to see if anyone could notice the difference.
>>121672741
Fuck you Berserks I want Bastard! continuation
I have to know how the anal defloration of Porno Dianno is going!
>>121672741
Man who cares, Berserk has been shit for ages.
>>121672127
Hahah!
That's it!
I'm still waiting for the new Iris Zero chapter to come out.Hope the mangaka is out of hospital ;____;
>>121672741
Makes sense. The only known photo of the guy was taken when color photoes weren't even a thing
>>121672741
This could be a possibly, and a very likely one too.
But I think the writing style could be pointed out by hardcore fans sooner or later.
Even HxH, Detective Conan, and One Piece will end before Berserk does. Maybe even Vinland Saga.
hurr le idolmaster man
>>121674457
>Vinland Saga
don't fuckin joke about it
It HAVE to end properly otherwise there is no point
>>121674457
But will Hajime no Ippo end before Berserk?
>>121674457
vagabond too
>>121673967
What if the guy that writes it is a hardcore fan?
>>121674748
Vagabond will never finish, cause Inoue knows that the second he stops working on vagabond everyone's gonna bitch for him to continue slam dunk
>>121672741
You. . . .you. . .
>>121674457
At least you aren't crazy enough to claim Historie will end before Berserk does.
>>121672741
This is, a CONSPIRACY.
Is idolmaster fun?
What exactly do you even do? Choreograph the dances and pick the clothes?
>>121672741
The truth is known.
>>121675570
Yes.
>>121675570
Yes
>>121675570
is the cancer killing /anime
>>121675575
/pol/ was right!
Since I'm on a Berserk thread, I'll ask this here.
Who the fuck is that guy ?
Okay he's an apostle, I got that part. But what's his purpose ?
Why is Guts child inside him ?
Why does he have the mark if he's an apostle ?
If Griffith took Guts child body, then why the child appear later with Guts and Cascaon the boat?
I need answers.
>>121677310
Forgot the pic.
>>121676583
Topkek
>>121677310
>Who the fuck is that guy ?
A nobody.
>But what's his purpose ?
Being the egg for the new world.
>Why is Guts child inside him ?
So Griffith can be reborn on earth.
>If Griffith took Guts child body, then why the child appear later with Guts and Casca on the boat ?
We don't know for sure what that child is.
>>121676514
This.
I hope all idol shit fans die a slow and painful death.....
>>121677413
>We don't know for sure what that child is.
Man, he has Guts face and Casca's hair . He can't be another thing than their child. Even the crew said that they looked like parents when he was sitting between them.
What I don't get is how Griffith can have the vessel that is the child's body and whilee this same child is fucking around everywhere on Earth.
I honestly think Miura has no clue where Berserk's plot should go from this point. He's now spent years procrastinating over this writer's block, and it's at the point where Berserk could end up an unfinished series. He either needs to get his shit together and see Berserk through to the end (no matter how shitty it gets), or throw in the towel and dedicate himself to a different project. This chapter every 3 months thing is doing nobody good.
>>121677593
>Man, he has Guts face
His face looks nothing like Guts'
>and Casca's hair
Casca's hair can hardly be more generic.
>What I don't get is how Griffith can have the vessel that is the child's body and whilee this same child is fucking around everywhere on Earth.
Exactly, it doesn't make any sense.
>>121674457
That explains the jump from low fantasy gore-fest to a setting with JRPG-party with magic elements.
>>121672741
I don't care anymore, just end this
>Have read the first 10 volumes in less than 5 days
>See this thread
so should I start pacing myself? I'm really enjoying this though
>>121678058
it doesn't matter how slow you pace.
>>121678058
Even if you read one page every day you'd still catch up and be disappointed that they haven't gotten off the boat.
>>121678058
Yeah, as the other posters said, it doesn't matter.
>>121676583
kek
>>121678058
You could read one bubble a day and you would stil catch on and hate Miura for the rest of your life.
>>121677593
I tought that Berserk had a lot of plothole but I recently read them all again and a lot o thing were more clear. except for that shit. If this Manga ends, I'm pretty sure, we're going to have all the answers.
Even if I doubt that Miura will find a logical way to make Guts able to take on Griffith.
>>121678284
Second part of the post was meant to>>121677694
>>121678094
>>121678116
>>121678147
>>121678284
I'm pretty new to berserk, but why is this guy so lazy? is there other reasons besides laziness? berserk seems extremely popular, why doesn't he just pump out volumes like most mangaka
>>121678387
>why doesn't he just pump out volumes like most mangaka
He used to. He worked at an insane speed for over a decade. What I assume is that he's pretty much burned out, lost motivation, lost interest in the story, and on top of that his work is much bigger now since his art keeps increasing in details.
>>121678387
Lazy, plays idolmaster, drawing the art takes aboatloadof time, and he's pretty unhealthy IIRC
Mostly just laziness and idolmaster shit though.
>>121678417
Burnout, laziness, sickness and Idol Games.
Not necessarily in that order.
I'll have graduated both high school and college with Guts being on the boat, unless he's off it by May. Holy shit Miura get it together.
>>121678387
The guy is fucking crazy.
I don't know what's the truth and what are rumors but:
- He plays Idolmaster
- He oftens burnout because he's drawing all by himself, being a retarded perfectionist. I read somewhere that if he draws something big, he just need one mistake to rip it off and draw all the shit all over again.
- Get sick all the time
- Old and lazy
Berserk is my second favorite Manga and I'm getting mad every time I read it again. That's the first time I hate so much an author of a work I love so much.
>>121678701
> mfw I did
Know the facts
http://skullknight.net/images/eps.htm
Maybe he's actually drawing Monster x Monster under a pen name because he thinks that's more fun.
Miura is burnt out of Berserk and it's obvious. That side manga he released was probably just to test the waters.
What's everyones favourite page?
pic related
>>121679229
The best plot thread that never got followed up on.
>>121679221
It has a loli sidekick and pissing has healing proprieties. It just shows how modern influences are affecting his mind.
>>121679452
she'll come back after guts comes back from elf kingdomi.e. never
>>121679483
I still can't believe he actually made that.
>>121679531
>>121679621
>>121674457
>Implying HxH will ever end
If it ends, it will be a cop out.
>>121679229
ayy.lamo
>>121679229
>>121678810
I know that feel.
>>121679975
god I have the fan translations
It's not even that faggot is out of character for Guts, it's just not a word that would even be in use at the time or place in that fashion.
>>121680052
*hate
>>121679975
>faggot-ass
>>121676583
10/10, saved
>>121676583
>What if they run into that stupid pirate again!?
This shit, is what I was afraid most.
>>121677310
He's an Egg Apostle, a deformed vagrant who was abandoned to the wilderness for his apperance, he lived in a tunnel near the Tower of Conviciton, when refugees gathered there, they started to dump corpses into his tunnel, when he was being suffocated under the bodies, the God hand were summoned and transformed him into an apostle, he was created to reincarnate femto, he sacrificed the world in exchange for humanities desired world. The creature is probably branded because his purpose is to sacrifice himself, Gut's child is inside Eggman's body because he felt sympathy for him, he wanted him to die in peace, but because of Muh causality, he became the vessel for Femto's rebirth.
>>121679229
>>121679229
>>121677694
The kid is the fairy-king guy who will restore Casca's memories, or try to anyway.
>>121677593
>Man, he has Guts face
Nah, the kid has both his eyes.
It's clear that Miura stopped giving a shit about Berserk a LONG time ago.
>>121672741
Chris Tolkien?
>>121678387
>people who unironically blame idomaster and claim he's lazy
I hate you all
Why do we still have these threads? They're mainly populated by tripfags and fuckwits who think they're fitting in by beating that dead IM@S horse over and over again. The only thing worth discussing is the plot, but that's no use when everyone thinks Miura will die before it finishes. The guy's not even fifty.
>>121682172
pretty sure he's actually 50
>>121682172
People get hit crossing the street every day, regardless of age.
>>121672741
i just..
>>121682172
>no use when everyone thinks Miura will die before it finishes.
People dying before their literary work was done happened several times before, you know. It's actually a plausibility for it to happen to Miura.
>>121682417
No more a probability than any other person in their 50's dying randomly.
>>121682541
I'm talking about him dying of old age, not accident.
>>121682216
He turned 48 last July. Meanwhile, Nagai and Tomino are still churning out shit with no questions asked.
>>121682222
Quads aside, Miura's a social shut-in who almost never physically shows up to interviews. The one where he infamously picked Chihaya as his favorite because "she's like Casca in the sense of stoic" was entirely phoned-in.
Maybe he'll die if he gets into an accident in his own home, if you look at these shitty conditions.
>>121682565
Still not a huge concern. If it's not done by the time he's 65-70, it's safe to say it probably wouldn't have had a good ending anyways.
>>121682565
You didn't make that evident in your last post. Isn't posting here a "chore" to you nowadays?
>>121682680
I don't care if the ending is good or bad, I just want there to be one. I'll die unhappy if there isn't.
>>121682743
>You didn't make that evident in your last post.
Which is why I simply specified when replying.
>Isn't posting here a "chore" to you nowadays?
Everything is a chore to me.
>>121682649
He looks like filthy frank
>>121682848
>Everything is a chore to me
There is nothing you can say to make me believe that you're "underweight". Fret not though, Hawk, as there are many chubby chasers within this thread who want to surprise sex a beta bitch like you.
>people taking the idolmaster jokes seriously
>>121683019
>There is nothing you can say to make me believe that you're "underweight".
I don't see why the part that you quoted makes you react that way. You realize that skinny people usually feel tired due to lack of nutrition, right?
>a beta bitch like you.
I'm not "beta". Don't know why you'd say that. I always state my opinions and everything in spite of so much adversity.
>>121683098
>I always state my opinions and everything in spite of so much adversity.
watch out everyone, alpha coming through
Does anyone have that timeskip concept picture?
>>121683289
I am pretty alpha on the Internet when you think about it.
>>121683066
You are the very embodiment of this quote because the guy on the picture isn't even fucking Descartes
>>121683439
No shit but that's the only one I have
>>121683409
Can't believe you actually typed that out
>>121683409
You're incapable of rational thought when you think about it.
>>121683487
>>121683562
You guys are going to need to define alpha and beta, then.
>>121683409
"being alpha on the internet" is a logically impossible situation, as opposed to a contingently impossible one.
Maybe you should take off your trip for a while.
>>121683710
She's still recognizable without the trip, so maybe she should leave 4chan entirely and live up to her status as 3DPD.
>>121683710
I don't see how it's impossible. Being alpha is like assuming a position of leadership. It's not submitting to others, etc... So I fail to see how I'm beta.
>>121683409
Everytime you agree with me outside of Berserk threads I hate you less
Then you post this shit, I am convinced you're fucking about at this point
>>121683409
>>121683601
>boiling complex human social interactions down to binary concepts like "alpha" and "beta"
Once again you prove that you don't know shit about anything
>calling yourself alpha on the internet
And you also have an IQ of 190 right?
>>121683912
>you
>in a position of leadership
delusional
>>121683917
>agreeing with hawk
>ever
kill self
>>121683912
It's being dominate in face-face social interaction. That doesn't work when you're hiding behind a keyboard.
>>121683999
I said when she agreed with me, learn to fucking read
>>121683951
She thinks she was meant to be or should have been born in North Korea. How the fuck could she call herself a "leader" when she believes that?
>>121683917
>Everytime you agree with me outside of Berserk threads I hate you less
How often does that happen? You make it seem like it happens on a regular basis.
>>121683999
Well, there's no "leaders" here, but I'm not submitting to anyone either.
>>121684000
Saying that I or anyone else here is "hiding" behind a keyboard is kinda silly. We've never even met each other in real life.
>>121684033
>hating her less
kill self
>>121684117
You hide from everyone including your own family IRL, so as far as anyone else is concerned, you're beta. The same can be said for any other Griffith apologist.
>>121684117
>We've never even met each other in real life.
And thus there's is no social dynamic to dominate, meaning that being "alpha on the internet" is logically impossible, at least as far as anonymous forums go.
>>121684224
I'm not hiding from them, I just prefer solitude, that's all. It's not out of fear, just out of comfort.
>>121684237
>And thus there's is no social dynamic to dominate
But there are. Even if it's just on the Internet, we're still all human beings socializing.
And also, if you think that it's impossible to be alpha on the internet, you should also believe it's impossible to be beta, so you should argue against me being beta as well.
Amazing. Everytime I think she can't get more delusional or crazy she tops my expectations.
Every fucking thread
>>121677310
>If Griffith took Guts child body,
He didn't.
The Egg Apostle gave rebirth to Griffith as the fake Hawk of Light (Hawk of Darkness), but also to the real Hawk of Light (Gut's and Casca's son, who somehow turned into a divine being through surviving an Eclipse, bathing in Femto's cum and finally getting stuck into the whole "sacrifice of the world" stuff). He never gave his body to Griffith.
>>121672741
>>121684283
I haven't argued you were beta have I? I'd argue that it's logically impossible as well. If someone calls you a beta and are refering to your posting conduct they're just blowing hot air.
Social interaction on the internet is different from typical interaction. It lacks the the dominance dynamic we typically see in face-face interactions and a variety of other things.
>>121684263
>I'm not hiding from them, I just prefer solitude, that's all. It's not out of fear, just out of comfort.
Lie to me again, and I'll put your head through the wall.
>>121684299
I've
>>121684379
>I haven't argued you were beta have I?
But you also haven't argued against the guy calling me beta.
>Social interaction on the internet is different from typical interaction.
Definitely, but that's why I also make a distinction between being alpha on the internet and alpha in real life. I definitely can't claim to be alpha in real life.
>>121684405
I don't see how this previous post contradicts what I just said.
>>121684482
I assumed he was referring to what details of your personal life you've revealed.
You also made yourself look like an ass, so I thought I'd post.
remember that apostle that was a huge behelit with arms
i bet you didnt until i mentioned
>>121684619
We talked about him briefly earlier in this thread.
>arguing on 4chan
>>121684733
That's what 4chan is for.
How the story is most likely going to go.
>Get to island
>Casca keeps resisting the cure the elf king keeps trying to give her.
>Guts decides it would be for the better if he leaves.
>Cacsa regains her sanity just as Guts leaves Island for his confrontation with Griffith.
>Cacsa tells the co what Guts is to her and what happened to them
>The company decide to raise an army to help Guts
>Jill's part of the world gets crazy shit happening she and her village now have to fight off monsters
>She befriends one of the monsters, maybe a dragon
>Guts on his rampage across this new world grows ever stronger as he cuts down the magical beasts and the hound/armor feeds off their strength.
That seems like the only way it can start to turn to a pivotal point and a climax and the only way Guts will be strong enough to face Griffith. Also Rickert discovers the underground rape caves in falconia, and the godhand members arrive in falconia and get their own sections.
>>121676583
>this is what neckbe/a/rds actually believe
Tip top kek. With love, from /soc/ :^)
>>121683003
Holy shit, he does. He looks like a wider Filthy Frank.
>>121685433
nobody actually believes that genius
>>121685411
>Jill
>not Theresia (?)
you know, the girl who swore to kill Guts
>>121685755
I was going to say she meets up with Jill following rumors of the Black swordsman. Then Griffith changes the world and their town begins to get attacked by monsters. It seems like you could wrap up a lot of character points.
Honestly though I hate the fact that everyone keeps bashing Miura. He's at a pivotal point in his Manga and at pivotal points like this there is no room for mistakes. So he is carefully planning his project and story development, I honestly think once the ball gets rolling he'll release more.
>>121672741
It's so ridiculous that it makes sense
>>121685914
>Honestly though I hate the fact that everyone keeps bashing Miura. He's at a pivotal point in his Manga and at pivotal points like this there is no room for mistakes. So he is carefully planning his project and story development, I honestly think once the ball gets rolling he'll release more.
This. Cut him some slack, niggah almost killed himself drawing this manga.
Also, it would bepoeticif Theressia killed Guts in the end
>>121672127
Good. Lazy fucks deserve to die miserably. I hope Togashi also suffer the same fate.
>>121685411
>Guts leaving Casca again
If that's the case then the story will go full retard. It's unlikely the story will leave Elfhelm after they arrive. Griffith will probably come to Guts.
Why is this stupid thread still up?
>>121680052
Pretty sure homos have been around long before the era of the middle ages.
>>121686772
How will it go full retard. It makes perfect sense. In volume 37 there is even a moment where guts considers what he is doing. Casca and his friends are the only thing stopping him from going after revenge and Griffith. When Guts sees Casca and co are safe he could very well abandon his security to burn everything once more with his black flame of malice. Griffith coming to elfhelm is a possibility but he has his kingdom why would he go after Guts? It would make a lot more sense for Guts to come to him. I mean that is what his quest has been since after the eclipse it's just now he has friends that he cares about.
>>121686874
I think he is just talking about the word faggot.
>>121686874
You wouldn't call them faggots anon. For one, Berserk takes place in continental not!Europe if anywhere, so placing uniquely british slang for no reason in your translation makes no goddamn sense. Even if you were dead set on calling the monster gay, (which also makes no sense, these monsters are pretty straight), you wouldn't use the word faggot. Faggot would've have meant a "bundle of sticks" if it was even in use.
>>121686772
>Griffith going to magic elf island after showing he's terrified of witches since they threaten his power with their magic
Nope, this is also why Schierke will be pivotal to the plot
>Griffith kills Schierke as she is the last witch alive
>Guts snaps and goes full hellhound berserker and cuts through Griffiths telekinesis succesfully this time
>Splitting him in two right down the middle>He doesn't die
Capped this shit so I can repost it with ease. Though I should have stressed how much the effort the art must take as well.
>>121686959
Guts leaving Casca to go off on a revenge party would entirely negate the conviction arc. The whole point was so that Guts learned that vengeance was an immature and selfish pursuit. If he left Casca again before she was cured that would invalidate his character growth. He might leave her if she was cured and then rejected him, but I'm of the opinion that Casca probably is never going to get better. Berserk has all the hallmarks of a classic tragedy. You don't get back what you've lost in a tragedy.
>>121687103
Oh I agree that Schierke is gonna die, and that it's probably gonna unleash the hellhound. But it's unlikely that Casca will leave the safety of Elfhelm (assuming Elfhelm is safe, there's a decent probability it's been completely fucked since Puck was last there), so Guts won't leave either.
Also can you imagine another Boat? I can't believe Miura would put us through that.
Why would Griffith be afraid of fairies? He didn't seem to think much of Puck when he met him.
>>121687376
We all know we're going fairy island to see it in ruins/go up in flames, so we are going back on the boat
Until Farnese learns to into magic Schierke won't die though, presumably her death will cause her to snap too and go full sadistic Pyromancy mode
Pucks a scrub and can't into magic, presumably they're magical beings but like humans only some can use magic
Griffith is scared shitless of the forest witches magic, so why would he not be scared or at least cautious of the magic wielding elf king?
>>121679483
>A whole new universe was made just for a couple chapters.
>Stuck up on "piss with healing properties"
Anon-kun... Who's mind is being affected here?
>>121687376
Yeah Guts has stated that he wants to protect Casca but what happens when he gets to Elfhelm and as you have said she doesn't get better. Or when she regains her memories she rejects Guts. Guts is at the pivotal point of his character development. He has frends and is almost in the safest place in the world. But he is also tormented about challenging Griffith and letting him taste his steel, remember his malice has kept him up until this day and for 3 years after the eclipse he has been scorching everything with it. Also the boat ride back wouldn't be so bad, I don't even know if there will be a boat ride back, Skully could teleport him, or the giant tree that stretches across the world could be like a portal to get places. Guts will leave elfhelm, maybe not for a bit, but he will eventually
>>121687580
Maybe because he won't care enough, or maybe because he has the other 4 godhand members with him, since now they can come to out of their dimension.
>>121687103
That is a possibility. Shrieke's death or any of his new friends dying would trigger the hellhound's final transformation.
I'm just curious as to how Guts will gain enough strength to challange Griffith, He has always been getting stronger after every fight because with each kill the hellhound keeps growing but he still has a bit of a way to go.
>>121687580
I don't remember him even being present at Flora's mansion. In any case she didn't present much problem for the apostles. Even Guts with Berserker upgrade couldn't protect her.
Besides wouldn't it make sense for Griffith to come to Elfhelm to make it go up in flames if they're a significant challenger to him? He does have an army and stuff.
If Ah megami sama ended.
This can end too.
Berserk was a lot better when we had lots of rape and Casca wasn't retarded.
>>121687813
There has been no indication the Godhand are allied, I suspect Griffith will be murdered by Guts while he begs the others for help
>>121687892
>I don't remember him even being present at Flora's mansio
That was my exact point, he didn't want to risk himself because he knows her magic could fuck him over one way or another, overestimating her is a different matter entirely
Maybe he knows something about her and skull knight we don't
Why would he go to Elfheim when Elfheim has done nothing to challenge him and probably won't? It's a risk he doesn't need to take, especially personally
>time is a circle
>zodd a skully call each other old friend
>zodd was another person outside casuality, taught by skullu before he gave into the behelits power
>Schierke and Guts following skully and forest witch footsteps
![Berserk_v28[v330].zip-Berserk_v28_p196-197.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mPXrwSp.jpg "Berserk_v28[v330].zip-Berserk_v28_p196-197.jpg")
>>121679229
I like boats
>>121672127
he should pass his work to someone else. It works just fine in DC/Marvel to get other people to write/draw. Not only will the new guy be interested, he may understand somethings better than the original author. Batman has been going for more than 70 years like. In manga they should do the same when the original mangaka doesn't want to draw anymore. Same thing is happening in bleach by the way.
>>121688554
I personally think you're really over estimating how Griffith fears witches. Even if he did, it's pure speculation that Elfhelm is anything like Flora's situation. Since Griffith's deal seems to be world domination, it's perfectly plausible he'd conquer Elfhelm for no other reason than he could. Though he might not show up personally, in which case we'd be in for another BOAT.
>>121676583
This one always gets me.
>>121688852
> bleach anything
> an example of a shonen
Thanks anon you made me laugh.
How does Miura make a living? Are the Berserk volumes still selling like hotcakes or what?
>>121688985
explain yourself
>>121672127
He's lost interest in Berserk as author. Everything is changing.
![berserk_demon_child_tutorial_references[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NCCjCR8.jpg "berserk_demon_child_tutorial_references[1].jpg")
>>121677593
>What I don't get is how Griffith can have the vessel that is the child's body and whilee this same child is fucking around everywhere on Earth.
I have a theory about that, when guts first met and fought reincarnated Griffith on the hill, Griffiths body moved on it own to protect Casca and Griffith suspected it's the child's fault, taht was a normal sunny day, later we always see the kid only on full moon (when magic is the strongest), so I think the kid is trapped most of the time inside griffith, but on full moon he's strong enough to leave him and make a physical appearance, I mean before the reincarnation he was pretty powerful
>Guts and co. get off the boat.
>Puck says,"Boy we sure got here fast!"
>>121689234
Thats more then likey gonna happen.
>>121689234
puck will probably morph into something in relation to your post, even miura doesn't give puck dialogs anymore.
>>121688855
It's not so much that he fears magic and witches but he realises they are the only thing that could pose a threat to him, he's literally immortal and a cosmic force of the universe
>World domination
I've not seen that implied, it's been about muh kingdom but I see it escalating to that point in the future
We all know we're in for another boat, let's not pretend it'll just hurt more later
>>121674457
But will JoJo end?
Can Berserk hiatus enough to outlast an immortal mangaka?
>>121679229
This is my favorite.
It tells so much without saying a single word.
>>121672548
From people being retards and taking everything they read on the internet as the truth, often exaggerating it in the retelling.
>>121679229
I love simple, tiny little moments like these in anything, these and the most intense crises really define characters. The nature of characters are really revealed when they aren't or don't have time to think about their actions.
This panel shows how gentle Guts can be. Somehow I feel like Guts can handle a world without violence just from this panel. I have faith he wont destroy himself from this panel.
>>121690208
>I have faith he wont destroy himself from this panel.
He will and you know it, he'll destroy his humanity for his revenge and that's why it'll hurt all the more because he's always had the choice not to and has the capacity for it
>>121679531
They set out for the fucking elf kingdom almost 15 years ago.
>>121690337
I don't know if I can handle to bear witness.
>>121679229
Here's mine.
>>121674457
>Vinland Saga
Thorfinn needs to cut some bitches. I swear to god.
>>121672548
Miura likes iDOLM@STER, that's no secret, but it's an obvious exaggeration that he plays is 24/7 and it's the sole reason Berserk releases have slowed down.
A person has to be stupid as fuck to think that he does. Unfortunately, that covers a good amount of the teenage chuuni faggots that manga like Berserk, naturally attracts.
>>121679229
My favorite page from my favorite battle ofmy favorite arc of my favorite manga.
>>121691313
Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but the old iM@S threads were more addicting than the games themselves.
>>121679229
Can't really pick one favourite but this is one of those I like most.
>>121689350
>Puck morphing into a sanic-esque pun.
>people on /a/ actually read this edgy prepubescent trash
>>121692464
die
>>121692464
>read
I actually get my imouto to relay every chapter in interpretive dance to me.
>>121690208
Honestly Guts understand what pain is. I always liked how Griffith and Guts are foils
>>121696024
Are you saying Griffith doesn't understand pain? Guy was tortured for like a year wasn't he? Not that that excuses anything he's done.
>>121690208
I want to put my hand on Guts' shoulder and tell him it's okay.
>>121679066
>http://skullknight.net/images/eps.htm
2013 was a bay year for Berserk fans...
>>121696024
Are they really foils? there's little similar about them.
>>121680510
Mi nigro.
>>121696263
Foil means that they are contrasts that emphasize each others qualities.
>>121672741
guys
what if the new mangaka came when the whole fantasy part began
How many times have you guys read Berserk?
>>121696494
I dunno, they're just different characters, not necessarily contrasting ones.
>>121679971
>>121689978
Thanx
>>121696591
Well, that point is certainly different from your first. I'd say that there are aspects, other than the motif of black and white, that show that they could be contrasting, but that is all up to interpretation.
>>121672548
>>121672205
ohh look 2probably just onewho took a joke seriously.
>>121696199
>Not that that excuses anything he's done.
It was totally an excuse. Anybody would snap in his situation.
>>121696585
In its entirety, twice, but I've read some parts tens of times.
>>121696591
Where did everything go so wrong?
ITT: Newfags that don't know that Bastard and Berserk compete with each other for hiatus frequency.
People mention Togashi but Bastard's author was the Togashi of Muira and Araki's generation.
The problem with Bastard's author is that he goes on hiatus to redraw everything over twice already.
There have been not one but two complete re-editions of Bastard.
And unlike Miura, you actually know about Bastard's author's condition since he likes blogging in his afterwards and you can tell time passing by based on how he draws himself from a tall skinny guy sketch to a neckbeard sketch complaining about his eyesight getting bad.
>>121696199
No I'm not sorry I worded it differently. What I meant to say was Guts understand emotional pain as well as physical. Guts grew up knowing emotional pain and losing almost everyone he knows. So he understood how Shriek felt.
>>121674457
Glass Mask too, let's not forget about that.
>Been going on since the 70s.
>Very close to conclusion now.
>Berserk will still be on hiatus after it's over.
As much as I like Berserk the fanbase is pretty much awful.
>>121697597
I'm going to go with the eclipse
But that was becuase the king tortured Griffith so much
But that was because Griffith had to get all handsy with the Princess
But that was because Guts had to be a fag and leave the hawks
But that was because Griffith had to go all MLK and give his "I have dream speech"
I which Guts & Co. had met Sakura instead of Schierke.
>>121674457
>yfw Song of the Long March will cover ALL 3 CENTURIES of the Tang Dynasty before Guts gets off the boat
>>121696263
Griffith is an incredibly charismatic and charming guy.He's beautiful and elegant.He is also calm and composed. He's studied a lot and is good at everything practically. He is also manipulative and cunning, and truthfully sees people sometimes as more as objects to control.
Guts is not charismatic and scary to most people. He is handsome and rough. Guts is an inferno and fights with rage. He only knows one thing and that is the sword, while also being quick witted. On the outside he is harsh and rough, on the inside he feels for people and understands their emotional struggle.
They seem like good juxtapositioned foil characters. Griffith could be argued as someone who does care, but that is for another debate. Griffith has characteristics that attract people to him, but on the inside he uses everyone the same. Guts pushes people away, but if you get close to him on the inside he cares for you. One is elegant, graceful, beautiful, and wins through cunning along with intelligence. The other a beast, primal, and fury incarnate relying on sheer willpower and quick wit to crush you without deceit. They have their similarities, but their stark differences could make for a great essay.
>>121698291
>He is also calm and composed.
Only when he thinks he's in control. He collapsed and ran to Governor Gennon's bed after he saw that kid with the knight doll die. Not to mention when he went crawling off to Charlotte's bed after Guts left him.
>>121698462
Usually but yeah you are right, there are moments when Guts can be composed as well. I just saw a chance to write a quick foil statement.
>>121697988
>As much as I like Berserk the fanbase is pretty much awful.
I noticed that too.
>>121698462
He was still really calm and composed with Gennon.
>>121698556
You are right that they do play on the classic blue oni/red oni dynamic that's very cliche in Jap writing. I was just pointing out that while Griffith is indeed a model of how to be cool and composed, he's also extremely fragile.
>>121698638
>he's also extremely fragile.
If he's extremely fragile, then everybody else is as well.
>>121692778
I want to fuck Griffith's boipussy
>>121672127
His resemblance to my dad is uncanny.
>>121698674
Take a number, thweetie.
>>121698590
Berserk is a good manga but the way the fanbase act all elitist about it really infuriates me, it's the same with Punpun too, I'm guessing the fans have crossed over but while both still good manga in their own rights they pretty much make it impossible to have any good threads about them here on /a/.
>>121698872
That's because we have to deal with delusional landwhales like that !hawk tripcunt.
>>121698872
My problem isn't necessarily elitism, but how such a high proportion of the fanbase is made of jerks.
>>121698669
Well compared to Guts he sort of is. Guts was swinging his sword around one day after Zodd, Griffith was bed ridden for like 3 days, and had to use a stick afterwards. But compared to Guts everyone is pretty fragile, dude is like an apostle in terms of durability.
>>121699066
Wait a minute, we were talking about emotional fragility, not physical.
As for what you said, well, they didn't get hit in the same ways. Guts got hit more often, but less strongly than that, so it's normal that his wounds will be different.
>>121699066
Was talking emotional fragility. Which Griffith covers up by acting suave and cool. Guts covers it up by swing his sword so much he doesn't have time to stop and think.
We see Guts break down during his sex with Casca and try to choke her, hallucinating about his child self(representing all his insecurities) in her place.
>>121697336
i met a former child soldier who'd been crippled by torture. real nice dude, was a peace activist. he wouldn't rape my girlfriend and murder 100 of his friends. i'm pretty sure he'd think griffith was an asshole, too
>>121689897
Technically Jojo has already ended 7 times
>>121699253
Yeah, Guts broke down emotionally pretty often.
>>121699275
Even though I'm sure he had a harsh life, I can guarantee he didn't get crippled nearly as much as Griffith did. That was some *really* hardcore torture, you have to admit.
>>121699382
what if miura is trapped in his house by a stand? i have a feeling there won't be berserk until 'bad romance' is finished
>>121699177
Griffith even says Guts was wounded so much more in Master of the sword chapter. Griffith would have been dead close to death if he took as much punishment as Guts
>>121699253
My bad, you could argue which was more emotionally fragile. I still would say Griffith, he went crazy after losing Guts. Guts was a child soldier along with being raped I don't blame him for freaking out once. Every other time he just sucked it up.
>>121699408
That's debatable which was more hardcore plus Griffith did he nursed back to health. Guts broke down maybe twice and one of those times was after the eclipse where he quickly sucked it up to keep on going at the end of the black swordsmen arc.
>>121698669
Most people don't throw away their whole lives the moment one of their friends tries to get some space.
Griffith is emotionally fragile as fuck.
>>121698979
maybe you should try being less of a jerk
>>121699570
>My bad, you could argue which was more emotionally fragile. I still would say Griffith, he went crazy after losing Guts. Guts was a child soldier along with being raped I don't blame him for freaking out once. Every other time he just sucked it up.
I can agree with you there. Though I wouldn't really say Guts "sucked it up" so much as buried it under layers of anger and scorn. Which is why he was so scared of being touched or getting close to people. He was afraid of his defenses shattering. Which they did as soon as he got intimate with someone.
>>121699579
i'd add that griffith never breaks down in front of anyone; he really just finds someone else he feels comfortable using so he can keep up the mask, like with charlotte.
>>121699570
>Griffith even says Guts was wounded so much more
Much more, but at different places. He didn't receive a huge tail blow right on the back.
>That's debatable which was more hardcore plus Griffith did he nursed back to health.
Griffith couldn't be nursed back. Too many of his muscles were removed and tendons were cut. He was going to be a disfigured crippled all his life.
>Guts broke down maybe twice and one of those times was after the eclipse where he quickly sucked it up to keep on going at the end of the black swordsmen arc.
It depends how we define "breaking down". He strongly expressed sadness, regrets and other emotions much more than just twice. Can't blame him for that, though. Doesn't make him a pussy at all.
>>121699579
>the moment one of their friends tries to get some space.
Guts didn't "try to get some space". He deserted from his duty by sneaking out in the night without warning anyone. That's a form of treason.
>Most people don't throw away their whole lives the moment
Neither did Griffith. He was just trying to get Guts back in his place, and he just accepted his defeat once it happened. Then, yes, he tried fucking Charlotte, but he wasn't trying to ruin his own life at all. He couldn't know he'd be caught.
>>121699618
I'm always nice and polite.
>>121699836
>Much more, but at different places. He didn't receive a huge tail blow right on the back.
Hawk what has more mass and strength? His tiny tail, or his giant arm/claws. Griffith got hit once and passed out. Guts was slapped around by Zodd, in terms of damage Guts took way more.
>Griffith couldn't be nursed back. Too many of his muscles were removed and tendons were cut. He was going to be a disfigured crippled all his life.
I meant to say he was being nursed back every time after he was tortured, but you have a point Griffith probably got messed up a lot more.
>It depends how we define "breaking down". He strongly expressed sadness, regrets and other emotions much more than just twice. Can't blame him for that, though. Doesn't make him a pussy at all.
I define breaking down as actually breaking down and stopping what they're doing do to being emotionally stunned. Guts broke down because of childhood trauma and being violated. Griffith broke down over Guts leaving. Afterwards Guts hasn't really broken down majorly. Even during the eclipse and afterwards. Guts is the struggle in practically all meanings of the word. Emotional, mental, and physical he is a survivor. But just because he is a struggle doesn't mean he's note prone to losing his sanity like he is now.
>>121699408
griffith's torture was extreme, but that doesn't mean everyone would respond the same way. first off, guts wouldn't. i'm pretty sure most people would just prefer to die after receiving torture like that, especially if it meant killing all their friends. The eclipse was the culmination of griffith's character & it put the lie to how much he actually valued his comrades
>>121690655
It's like you didn't even read it.
>>121700129
>Hawk what has more mass and strength? His tiny tail, or his giant arm/claws
Zodd's tail is definitely not tiny. It was almost as thick as Griffith's body. Besides, more mass doesn't necessarily mean more damage. I'd rather get his by a stick than by a whip.
>I define breaking down as actually breaking down and stopping what they're doing do to being emotionally stunned.
Then I think that might have happened more than twice for Guts, though they weren't major breakdowns.
>Griffith broke down over Guts leaving.
You're oversimplifying it. It wasn't just because he left. In fact, I'm sure that if Guts had just asked permission, he would have let him leave. It was the combination of treason, losing his best friend, and losing his first fight that really hurt him.
> Even during the eclipse and afterwards. Guts is the struggle in practically all meanings of the word. Emotional, mental, and physical he is a survivor. But just because he is a struggle doesn't mean he's note prone to losing his sanity like he is now.
I agree.
>>121700145
It's impossible to know exactly how people would react unless it happened to them.
>The eclipse was the culmination of griffith's character & it put the lie to how much he actually valued his comrades
It was a moment of weakness. Again, it was a combination of many different, big events that made him snap. It wasn't just the torture.
>>121698872
Punpun had good threads once upon a time. It's just that it got ridiculously popular toward the end, and now there's no new material coming out (obviously), so every thread just gets full of people who really want to mention how good they thought it was but have nothing else to say.
>>121672741
It's like Miley Cyrus.
>>121674457
KochiKame and Golgo 13 will outlast it. I believe that Miura can finish before the stars die, but those two will last forever.
>>121700145
Griffith did try to kill himself, he just either collapsed or couldn't bring himself to do it.
I think that's what makes him a great character, that he does such terrible shit and yet you can't say whether you'd do any better in his situation
Is that Filthy Frank?
>>121699836
>treason
The valid response is still not throwing away everything you and the rest of your comrades have worked for.
>>121700607
You say that like he did it on purpose. He didn't. It was an accident.
>>121700474
Will Ippo outlast it?
Who would win between Takamura and human Wyald
>>121700624
Having sex with the princess was definitely on purpose. Just because he didn't intend to get caught doesn't make it not a very dumb thing to do
>>121700682
Yes, it was a bit of a bold thing to do, but what I'm saying is that it's silly to speak like he just ruined everything on purpose.
>>121700624
No one purposefully gets caught. But the manga leads us to believe that Griffith is usually more level headed than forgetting the fact that his sword was broken, or putting himself in a situation where he could get caught in the first place.
Griffith sexing Charlotte is an emotional breakdown for him at the loss of Guts, pure and simple.
>>121700754
Loss of Guts AND duel.
I agree with everything else you said there.
>>121672741
I wouldn't mind this.
Although the last chapters had those same autistic details that good old Kentarou likes.
I don't think anyone would bother as much as he does.
I want Guts to fuck Griffith. The ultimate revenge.
>>121701004
Can't be revenge if it's giving the person the thing they wanted most
>>121701004
>>121701040
Berserk characters aren't gay.
>>121701040
> Guts uses behelit
> Wishes for Griffith to become a woman and marry Guts
> Griffith loses kingdom because he's now a queen, Guts taking the kingdom as the King
ULTIMATE
REVENGE
>>121700384
you can't say everybody would make the same choice griffith did under those circumstances. I gave a real-life example; history is full of people who preached forgiveness as they were tortured to death.
You're right that it was a combination of events; his whole life was leading up to that choice. The big thing about the godhand during the eclipse was that they pretty much just told griffith the truth about what he'd done to achieve his dream. The only lie they told was that his soldiers were willing to die for griffith's dream- the truth is the band of the hawk were willing to die for a shared dream, not griffith's dream alone. Griffith's duty was to bring as much of the band as possible with him to the future, & thats the premise they were willing to risk death under. Griffith was apt to believe that lie since even when he was in a strong position, he never respected the idea that his subordinates' dreams mattered outside his own. His dilemma's sympathetic at the eclipse, but his decision is completely consistent with his character
>>121701241
10/10 ending
Berserk turned to shit after the Golden Age anyway.
>>121701202
>Has sex with men
>isn't gay
>hey guts come see my necklace
>what do you mean why am i naked?
>what are you talking about? this isn't gay at all!
>haha totally straight waterfight! teehee!
>>121701248
>Just ignore !hawk, it's not worth it.
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