>Moot retirement announcement
>Moot threads
You now realize this is the beginning of the end. /a/ will be no more in 2 years from now. I guarantee it. Start finding a new place to go faggots.
as if there weren't enough threads already
>inb4 cripplefags from AnonTalk 2
Let's face it....we are all going to reddit when that happens.
The average /a/ post is on par with a Twitter or Facebook memepage post.
>>120180945
>/a/ will be no more
Sure.
>>120181191
Why don't you just go now, ledditor?
>>120181191
You and all the other retards who came from there, sure
I'm learning German and moving to krautchan, they appreciate lolis if nothing else
>>120181551
The redditchan shills are out in full force today
>>120180945
If /a/ dies, i'll move to 7chan.
I hope that it will never happen.
>>120181293
And then we have your garbage, that's even beneath that
![The End Of Evangelion.m4v_snapshot_00.34.52_[2015.01.21_14.12.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BLgopfF.jpg "The End Of Evangelion.m4v_snapshot_00.34.52_[2015.01.21_14.12.18].jpg")
>moot leaves
>it now takes 1 minute to post anything
>>120181293
And then we have your garbage, that's even beneath that
>>120181712
>7000 post sticky with a 3000 quote post
>>120181634
How is Desuchan holding up these days?
>>120181824
Dead. The community is frankly horrible anyway.
>>120181712
The site is probably overcharged.
There is a thread with 6000 replies.
Remember that the last time4chan dies was because of the "We draw Usaka" thread with ~7500 replies
>>120180945
2 years is enough time to be fluent in moon.
I'm not worried.
>>120181375
>>120181450
No i rather stick around until i see people like you start to suffer after a closure announcement. Enjoy the finals days.
/a/ won't die, we just won't see that faggot come here and post once in a while
>>120180945
>Start finding a new place to go faggots.
>implying
>>120181191
Fuck you guys. I'm learning jap and moving to 2ch.I really don't know where else to go.
>>120181450
See you among the lolis, freund.
>>120181551
>implying there is any difference between them
>>120182149
I speak japanese, and I still like /a/ better.
>>120182149
It takes several years just to be able to read at a decent level. I don't want to know how long it takes to shitpost effectively.
Optimal choice would be a ghost board on archive.moe. I feel it would be the closest to the actual /a/ experience and having the archive close at hand would be neat. Second choice would be that doushio website, I haven't browsed much of it but it doesn't seem bad.
7chan and Desuchan would probably very wary of refugees, trying to preserve their own acquired board status quo, and I can' blame them for that. iichan is still alive as wakachan, so that's another option.
All I know is that I won't be touching the likes of reddit or eitchan. That's where the faggots responsible for 4chan's demise are.
>>120182362
/a/ has thought me you can just quote something somebody said and post a reaction image
Observe
>It takes several years
>>120180945
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOREVER, NIGGER!
FIGHT FOR YOUR FUCKING /a/!
THIS IS OUR PROMISED LAND, OUR MADE BEDS!
I WILL LIE IN IT AND FIGHT FOR IT UNTIL THE FAGGOTS DIE OUT OR I'M SILENCED FOREVER!
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR FIGHTING SPIRIT ANON?! TAKE BACK YOUR BOARD!
>>120182494
But Japanese is such a different language than English. Here, you can add cuck to anything and make a shitpost such as "americuck." For Japanese you need to work out readings and slang that might not be in dictionaries.
How about this 2015, hey guys?
It sure started off to be a great year, right?
I mean, Origa just died and now 4chan gets sold to tumblr or facebook or whatever the shit.
What a way to go, man. Yeah sure, 2015 will definitely be better than 2014! Just look at how many sub-groups are still going strong these days as well!
I fucking love my life!
>>120182632
Just mention Nanjing a bunch of time
We need someone to setup a backup community that won't be shit.
Thing is, it has to be exactly like /a/, and can't cater too much to one crowd nor get too "muh frreeee speeechh" that it ends up like reddit or redditchan.
Basically, you need to setup another imageboard, only setup boards on it thats 4chan equivalents aren't complete shit as to keep out /v/ and /pol/, have an aggressive anti-pedophile policy, but at the same time tolerate lolicons and other drawn but offensive content that is harmless, but in a fashion that's just SFW enough to be on-topic, but that has moderation that "lets the rules slip" and lets just enough NSFW shit through at a time, that also bans for recommendations.
Face it. /a/ is hard to clone, and there are a lot of different kinds of us here that tolerate each other. I don't mind sharing a board with you lolicons, but I'll be damned if I'm going to support redditchan and its boards for actual pedos.
>>120182149
daily reminder that 2ch supports redditchan
>>120182810
>>120182632
How to 4chan style shitpost on 2ch:
Talk about a Korean Conspiracy
Talk about how attractive Korean Girls are
Basically, how you would troll /v/ or /pol/ but with chinese xenophobes instead.
>no one will celebrate asuka's birthday
>the new admin will be some /sp/ normalfag
>>120182438meguca.orgis the dousjio r/a/dio board.
It's nice, and loli is allowed.
I still think moot should have spun /a/ /jp/ /m/ and /c/ off on their own though.
>>120182693
Fuck my life.
>>120183169
These other boards get it wrong though.
I'm not gonna replace /a/ with a board that's all loli. I don't come to /a/ for that. /a/ is a big community, and it won't be the same unless we all come, from you lolicons to us lovers of fat whores. Which means, you'd still need to be confined to sadpanda threads. I don't mind the occasional leaking into other threads, but I'm not gonna wade through 9 loli threads to talk about anime.
/a/ became too big for it's own good.
>>120183063
What about saying that anime characters look white?
>>120183448
I'm just citing loli as an example. I just personally like the live posting style and wish we all could migrate to one.
That site has the most lax rules of the live ones, so I suggested it.
>>120183169
This is pretty nice. Plus you can set Ilya dance as a background. How cool is that?
>>120182866
/a/ is its community.
Whoever set up the /a/ for redditchan tried hard to "import" some of the /a/ culture (spoilered porn allowed, 2D/3D distinction, no recommendations, etc.)
But it doesn't work because most of the people that go to /a/ aren't there. Same for the other alternatives. Sure /a/ has a lot of shitty new posters who use Facebook and Reddit that they probably don't have, but those boards are also missing the core users that make up "/a/."
Honestly I'll probably go to 2ch more often
but besides that I'll probably take a step back and stop talking about anime as much and actually watch/read more stuff.
>ctrl-f "4-ch"
>0 results
4-ch niggas.
>>120180945
I guess that'll give me an opportunity to watch anime and read manga again.
>>120183686
4chan isn't about lax rules, we have much tighter rules than reddit or imgur.
4chan is about having tough rules, but not enforcing them properly.
This Meguca board isn't actually that bad, but seems dead, and r/a/dio has always been pretty cancerous.
moot agreed, don't bother him about it.
>>120182584
This.
Take back 4chan
>>120183745
That's a crucial point, all 4chan clones need a circlejerk coming from another site to have a base to work with and they do, the problem is that with that circlejerk it can't be /a/ by definition
To be a substitute it needs to be really similar to /a/, where you're expected to not be new, and at the same time not have a culture on your own that divides it from /a/. Basically an "official" /a/ colony
>>120184316
It will never happen, you doofus.
/a/ is lazy as fuck. When was the last time you ever saw /a/ stand up for something and fight for it?
The last one I remember was back on Horizon's 1st Season that because of no fucking sub-groups, /a/ actually subbed the stupid show.
And this was what, 3 or 2 years ago or some shit.
>>120182584
I'm here forever with you, /a/non.
anime discussion will always get bland if people do it for too long. Of course there will always be oldfags who refuse to leave, but people will constantly grow out of it, and there will always be more newfags. If the website changes due to Moot being kill, then so be it. /a/ certainly has changed before, I'm sure they can survive more changes.
>>120184633
/a/ needs to agree on a canary.
A phrase to paint in the sky when the shit hits the fans so we all know to go.
>>120184686
That was around a year ago, anon-kun.
iichan/wakachan has always been the superior board anyways.
>>120184886
But the more the newfags learn about the culture, the more it gets preserved
If too many come all at once they subconsciously create a circlejerk where they become the majority and can laugh at people getting angry at them for being new
>>120184917
m00t was a fag
>>120184686
We're not all lazy. Some of us go outside!
I'm here because of 2009, and I'll never leave.
Someone will figure something out. We're probably fine for now though, 4chan will be here tomorrow.
>>120184917
If trips canary officiallymootykins pls
>>120185153
>shana board dead
Not even the ending made it stand up even for a while ;_;
He'll save us right?
>>120185440
I don't think my Linux Toaster can render 4chan in 10-bit...
>>120185440
Will posting in Hi-10p take longer than it does now?
>>120185332
Close but no cigar.
Asuka a shit.
guys this may be the last time i can say this, I love all of you no fgt intended, we've come a long way and now it all ends. we must go to the inevitable
Seriously though, the new admin is probably gonna be that sys-admin or developer.
Doesn't the developer go back to the Snacks days, have we EVER had any idea who codes this shit?
>>120185728
>>120181191
>im-fucking-plying
Fuck off
Redditors like you, assuming everyone else is like you, are the cancer of this board. Reddit will never capture the magic of /a/, the best we can do is go to other chans.
Go back to rebbit.
>>120181983
>being a casual
>admitting you're from lebbit
Fuck off
The slow decline of elitism, the rise of reddit retards, that's why /a/ is going downhill.
>>120181293
Well, that's because it's fluid and very casual, unlike a forum.
>>120185772
It's probably going to be Tumblr, you troglodyte.
moot wouldn't leave and sellout unless the pay was big, so the pay has got to be fucking big.
I almost cried when I saw this
>>120186016
The fucking picture is coming together.
What happened 2 years ago? A massive influx of redditers, but unlike the Gaiafaggots, they never fit in. That's why we have Gamergate and /pol/. It's all redditers who "became" 4channers.
What happened to moot?
>>120180945
>run a website where geeks label each other autistic cuck betas 24/7
>finally get labeled a cuck beta yourself
>throw a fit, ruin pol, and quit
>>120186232
He became a SJW.
>>120185440
Fuck no, I'd rather go to that hachi chan or just run to red dit. Daiz may know his shit with encoding and broad aspects of fansubbing, but he's a terrible leader. Him running 4chan will be even worse than moot.
I don't know what I would do if /a/ died.
>>120185440
>>120186448
After this fakku shit he can't be trusted
Does he even post anymore?
>>120186448
>>120186727
Daiz is basically on the same level as moot.
He once cared for the community he was a part of.
But then when the mula started to matter he sold out like a fucking jew.
>>120186727
What'd he do with fakku?
>>120184686
Well, with that attitude of course is not happening
>>120186685
We'll keep 4chan alive /a/non.Together
No true m/a/n will ever leave 4chan until the day it fades away into nothing.
>>120186884
Is this your first day on /a/ or something, sperglord?
>>120186935
>leave
More like escape
we can just go populate 7chan
>>120186874
Fakku started militarizing and Daiz said it wouldn't take any action against the panda and kept backing its owner
Later DMCAs takedowns started.
The owner was also a massive faggot and samefagged as various different people to back himself up in the /a/ threads
>>120180945
I'm sad as anyone else, but let's hear what moot has to say on Friday before getting too hasty.
>4chan waiting for two whole days
>>120183788
>88
this should be coveted by every anon now
I hope you faggots understand that 7chan autobans anyone coming over from 4chan.
Hope you still remember how to lurk.
>>120187189
FAKKU still has no involvement with the Wani takedowns. Wani started them and Wani is the one keeping them going, and even without the whole FAKKU Books deal Wani would have still kept going with them (and the start of the takedowns was what resulted in the publishing deal to begin with).
Not going to defend Jacob's samefagging though, that's just dumb and I've said as much to him directly. I believe the quality of the products should speak for themselves, and if you do want to talk about things related to them, you should be honest about your allegiances & biases (and attaching your name to your posts is the quickest way to go about that).
7chan is dead garbage made by butthurt faggots from /b/ and includes furfags and pedos idk why anyone would go there.
>>120187391
>1 post every month
damn dude i really wanted to go there
>>120187621
Holy shit.
Are you going to take over 4chan now?
Come on, spill the news, fagget.
>>120187621
HE'S COME TO TAKE OVER 4CHAN
>>120187621
>>120187189
Jesus christ
What was he samefagging about?
Next time There's a fakku Booth at a con I'm renting a panda outfit and wrecking their shit.
>>120187890
I'd pay to watch this.
Come to think of it, didn't moot say he'd not bother with 4chan anymore when canvas started up? He'll probably be back in a few months after his next venture fails
>>120186825
No, moot grew apathetic while daiz just got more insufferable and obnoxious about every fucking thing.
>>120187621
what the FUCK are you doing here right now
do you have a special sensor that whenever someone shit talks Jewcob you have to come to his rescue?
>>120188015
Welp, it's like daiz just can't wait to prove my fucking point. >>120187621
>>120188015
Don't you miss the old Daiz.
The Daiz that would stream typesetting iDOLM@STER episodes.
The Daiz that work the fansubbing community and not against it.
Yeah.. I sure do.
>>120188138
>The Daiz that work the fansubbing community and not against it.
Humor me: How exactly am I supposed to be "working against the fansubbing community" today?
>>120187890
https://archive.moe/a/thread/115923357/#115927873
>>120181191
>implying I won't stare at the archive all day
>>120183150
>/sp/
>normalfag
That would be /fit/. /sp/ is just a bunch of fat neckbeards arguing about football and basketball
>>120188189
Holy shit, my hand is so fucking cold I even forgot to type down the "for".
But out of the top of my head, how about the fact that Jaka has dominated and almost successfully destroyed the fansubbing community without a single stroke of retaliation coming from you, UTW, etc.
Almost every group is dead and you just stood by and watched, but are probably not even going to bother with fansubbing anymore since you're too busy county your FAKKU scheckles.
>>120188189
By assassinating moot.
Your wicked schemes do not go unnoticed.
>>120188437
Blame people who are not willing to wait for subs. I do.
>>120188189
Look at this guy, look at how far up his own ass that he can't even see or admit when he messed up.
>>120188189
What's the bloody point? You'll just weasel out of them with your own warped logic anyway (like usual).
>Humor me
We've been humoring you for far too long, mate.
the site will only improve. look into your heart, you know it to be true
>been here since it was "zip" before "boards"
I feel old now.
>>120182584
This isn't even my home board, but I'll support whatever someone who posts a gif of a Russian loli drinking vodka believes
>>120182693
>4chan gets sold to tumblr or facebook
You're overreacting, we're just having new admins
Since the thread's already being hijacked.
>>120188189
>this guy is actually serious
>>120188964
He actually started that list himself, did you know.
>>120188964
He is also the Hupo.
>>120188189
Nothing, people are idiots. You're the coolest guy Daiz, thanks for idolmaster.
>>120189122
Fuck off, vert.
>>120188437
How exactly could fansubbers "retaliate" against HS anyway? Pretty much the only way to stop CR rips would be stop CR itself, and that's not something a bunch of nerds in their Reimu boxers could just do.
>Almost every group is dead and you just stood by and watched
Again, what exactly could I do besides watch? If people don't want to work on fansubs, it's not like someone could just tell them that they must keep doing it.
>>120188541 is right on the money in saying that it's really the people who don't want to wait for fansub releases and are fine with HS who have "killed" fansubs. Not to mention that a lot of people fansubbed to "make anime available", whereas basically the only reason to do fansubs anymore is having higher quality than what legal options (and rips of said legal options) offer. And on that front, I've never stopped advocating for high quality options.
>but you are probably not even going to bother with fansubbing anymore since you're too busy county your FAKKU scheckles.
Admittedly, I am less interested in working on fansubbing now that I am able to work on providing high quality legal digital options with relatively free hands. But can you really blame me? High quality legal digital distribution has been something I've wanted to do for a long time. Fansubbing has simply been a way to fill that want in the form of high quality illegal digital distribution. And the reason legal trumps illegal is simple: access to higher quality sources.
>>120188819
>Jacob had no involvement
Bullshit, he probably told fucking Wani about it before/after signing a deal with them.
It's so fucking obvious.
>>120189283
Daiz, you do know people give you shit because you make it fun to do so by being so uptight all the time.
Take it easy.
Feels like /pol/ in here.
I don't have anywhere else to go
>>120189380
>because you make it fun to do so
I wouldn't bother replying to a lot of things if I didn't have fun doing so, you know. On that note, it's also pretty funny that people just keep claiming that I'm being "uptight", "upset" or whatever when in reality I'm basically just always having a jolly good time posting.
>>120189530
Parasyte when, Daiz?
>>120189530
Are you doing it pro-bono?
If /a/ and/or 4chan dies I was thinking we would meet up on the archive first and foremost. No use trying to crown a successor until then.
Personally I kind of wanted to make an /a/chan (/a/ channel in full, it could have Yuuko as the mascot or something) tgat is literally an /a/ copypaste with the same rules and nothing else,but people would just call it a hugbox if it didn't support other boards and I'm not willing to carry other leftovers.
Alternatively there could just be an /a/ copy paste going on the archive until something was figured out.
>>120189464
Me neither
>>120189530
So you don't get upset at all? Bullshit, that's what the internet is all about!
Can't blame you if you do, though.
Daiz did nothing wrong its all your fault that this happened /a/.
>>120189530
Well, just saying that people probably get that impression when you keep writing out long justifications for your actions (and I guess Jacob's actions) on a Chinese cartoon board.
Is there a Diaz bat signal?
I think he just F5s 'diaz' on search in the archive.
>>120189283
>And on that front, I've never stopped advocating for high quality options.
Yet you are doing nothing to motivate the people who, along side you, once strove to deliver those high quality options.
Where the fuck is UBW from UTW? This is a good example, as you were part of the group at one point, or still are, I don't know.
But I bet my ass that not even once you went up to Kusion or aers and asked them, "hey guys, maybe we should really release a episode or two sometime soon", and instead you just let them idle on episode 3 forever.
>Fansubbing has simply been a way to fill that want in the form of high quality illegal digital distribution.
Fansubbing was something done by the fans of the gender, not something to fill in in forms of high quality, you troglodyte.
I fucking waited over 1 week on Animesuki just to get that stupid 240p hardcoded [WinD] subbed Higurashi episode, because I knew those freaks loved that fucking show so much they would go out of their free time to deliver it, translated, to the people that also loved it as much.
It was never about the form of high quality until your Hi-10p shit hit the fan.
>And the reason legal trumps illegal is simple: access to higher quality sources.
I'll grant you this, getting a good source was always a problem, but people managed back then, and I'm sure some people who still have active contacts manage till this day.
But this should be no way a fucking excuse for you to say that your cause is just.
Making something legal - FOR MONEY, always kills the free market. And that was what fansubbing was, the free market.
That you want to get payed for something instead of doing it for free I won't question, but what I truly question here is the ethics behind your reasons.
The ethics that the fansubbing community once held and the ethics that people like you, who no longer care what the true reasons were when this entire scene started and only care now about how much money I can put into my pocket.
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIN
THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAAL
>>120189850
>not knowing about Daiz Hi10p H.666 Encoding Fakku Summoning Ritual
>moot thread
>namefag takes it over
The most attention hungry of attention whores holy shit.
>>120189942
Why would I want to know that?
>>120189856
>blaming anyone for Kusion or aers being unmotivated faggots
What.
>>120189850
Filters. There is even a windows program that does it for you.
>>120182584
im here forvever /a/non
i mean, there's no other place for me to go.
>>120189990
To stop being such a fucking newfag. I bet you don't know moot too.
>>120189122
Daiz is no longer affiliated with Chibiki you stupid fuck.
>>120189530
Barakamon when you fucking faggot
>>120189666
Catch-up soon (should be within the next 12 hours).
Was pretty busy last week visiting murrica, finally got home earlier today.
>>120189691
I post here for my own amusement, yes.
>>120189744
>So you don't get upset at all?
Pretty much. I've been on 4chan long enough to learn that getting upset at things on the internet in general is pretty silly, so I largely react with amusement to things like that instead.
>>120189798
Well, that really comes from the fact that I enjoy debating and explaining the logic behind my thoughts and actions. It's something I find enjoyable in itself.
>>120189856
>Fansubbing was something done by the fans of the gender, not something to fill in in forms of high quality, you troglodyte.
That's not how it works. Fansubbers have always had reasons to do what they do. For most of fansubbing's existence, this reason has been to simply make anime available, since legal options were rare or nonexistent. Another big motivation has been to provide anime in high quality. Nowadays, the former has basically no reason to exist anymore (since anime is very much available with all the legal options out there), so the only big motivator left is doing it for quality. And even that will require the subbers to desire higher quality than what the legal options offer. As such, it's only natural that there's less subbers today than in the past.
Running out of space in this post, I'll reply a bit more to you in another.
This made into a banner when?
When will you guys just learn Japanese so you don't have to rely on fuckers like Diaz?
>>120190273
Fucking moonrunes are too hard, dude.
>>120190273
Because learning Japanese will never make me feel the smoothness of 10bit gradients.
>>120188255
Christ https://archive.moe/a/thread/115923357/#115928340
https://archive.moe/a/thread/115923357/#115928263
>>120190273
I'm at it, Japanese is so fucking awkward and full of synonyms that it's more complicated than it seems. The chipmunk voices and random slang of my erotic cartoons don't help much either
>>120189856
>Making something legal - FOR MONEY, always kills the free market. And that was what fansubbing was, the free market.
>thinks free market means things are free.
God damn you're an idiot. You have no idea what the free market is do you.
>>120190157
That's incorrect - I haven't been involved in Cinderella Girls so far because I was on a trip which made working on the two first eps inconvenient, but I should be getting back on board this week.
>>120189856
>Where the fuck is UBW from UTW?
Something like that is really on the shoulders of whoever is leading the project, and at UTW I've basically always been just an encoder and nothing more. As such, there isn't really anything I could do to make the projects I'm not involved in go faster, as it's simply out of my hands. At Underwater, things are different - as the group leader, I'm basically the project leader on everything, and that's where I can actually do things to ensure releases happen.
>because I knew those freaks loved that fucking show so much they would go out of their free time to deliver it, translated, to the people that also loved it as much.
Here's where you and I differ - I've personally never believed there to be anything magical about the fact that fansubs are fan-made. I'm a very pragmatic person who is interested in high quality anime releases, and I prefer fansubs because they are the ones doing just that most of the time. I also don't think this to be an optimal scenario - there will always be downsides to fan-made hobby projects that can be only dealt with by doing things legitimately with money, so ideally we'd get the high quality currently only offered by fansubbers legally instead.
>>120190442
It's free as in freedom you fucking illiterate faggot.
>>120182584
I'm with you.This is still one of the boards still telling normals to fuck off, god speed /a/.
>>120187189
>Kino
>on /a/ in 2014
Are you guys telling me there's a crisis in fansubbing right now? Are some series going unsubbed?
>>120190770
>FANsubbing
>>120190770
Have you been living under a rock or some shit?
Horriblesubs has completely annihilated 95% of the fansubbing groups that were active.
And no, Horriblesubs is not a fansub group.
>>120190770
Don't you know about the memecartel?
>>120190832
I moved to /v/ when anime went to shit in 2007
>>120190832
But is CR actually a bad translation? If it's not, what's the issue? Fansub groups should spend time subbing things not on CR while CR handles pleb shows that are highly popular.
>>120190876
I moved to /a/ when /v/ went to shit in 2007
>>120189856
>I'll grant you this, getting a good source was always a problem, but people managed back then, and I'm sure some people who still have active contacts manage till this day.
Hobbyists working illegally will basically always be limited to mass-market consumer products as sources. They will always have those as a quality ceiling. Legal business is basically the only way to get access to sources better than that, so the quality ceiling is much higher. This is why I support the idea of high quality legal products.
>Making something legal - FOR MONEY, always kills the free market. And that was what fansubbing was, the free market.
As others have already pointed out, you're basically going full retard here. Free market does not mean "getting stuff for free".
>who no longer care what the true reasons were when this entire scene started
As I already said, this is a matter of what motivates people to fansub. What got the scene started was the motivation to make anime available in the first place. The desire for quality came later, and personally I've always been in it for that.
>>120190832
I miss Hadena
>>120190929
The difference for me is that occasionally a good video game will still come out, whereas all I was seeing for several seasons was moeshit show after moeshit show
>>120190998
I remember when Daiz ruined a Hadena PR thread.
Onore, Daiz!
>>120190273
Because I lost motivation
>>120190707
Even if he wasn't, m00t doesn't want them to tell us who they are
Is this the way anime Daiz? Not screams but with thunderous applause?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQdP_w8gEtg
;_;
>>120190925
It always looks like shit, sometimes the translation is particularly bad and sometimes they don't sub a show so they take FUNi which is dreadful
>>120182149
2ch is japanese reddit
you want 2chan, not 2ch
>>120190220
That's perfect.
>>120186127
I had a similar feeling.
>>120191144
So what is this Daiz guy going on about high quality sources for if the CR rips have shit source material?
Daiz, why don't you make another 4chan? I would go there.
Fuck off Daiz
>>120191298
Fucking kill yourself or lurk before posting newtard
>>120182584
Touching words, how and when do we start?
Let's make m00t proud, at least once.
I can't fit in anywhere else, I've already tried it. How sad.
>>120191399
No, I'm only here for mootleaving stuff. Spoon feed me.
have you taken the time out of your day to write a thank you/fare well email to moot?
maybe snacks will make his own chan
>>120191298
CR does get better sources than fansubbers.
The reason why fansubs still end up nicer to look at is because CR doesn't make the best of their sources. They don't do any filtering on them (because anime sources are generally flawed) and encode them with little care.
For a concrete example, take a look at these comparison:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/105249
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/105250
That's Crunchyroll's 1080p vs Kazé's (a German simulcasting company) 1080p, encoded from the same high quality source. The Kazé version is an example of what you could get if companies like CR actually cared about the quality of their video.
>>120190943
>As I already said, this is a matter of what motivates people to fansub. What got the scene started was the motivation to make anime available in the first place. The desire for quality came later, and personally I've always been in it for that.
Alright, first of all, I guess I should thank you for responding to my comments. On this you're at least one of the few people inside the fansubbing community who takes it's time to drop by and answer shit.
I already see that we diverge in ideas, though the way you made it sound by adding the word "magical" a while ago really made me want to punch your face.
There was nothing magical about it, it was just how it was. The community was a lot smaller back then as well, and though that gave a different feeling to the purpose of why the fansubbers did what they did, overall the matter of the fact was, as you said, and I as well, to make anime available.
If you're a pragmatic person who's only interested in giving out the highest quality I couldn't care less, if that's your niche, then fine, go with it.
But I sure bet my ass that the main reason why people did fansubbing back then was not about the quality but just to make it so that a translated anime episode could reach the people that loved anime.
But my question is now related to he part I quoted. If you say it's a matter of what motivates people to fansub, then I'll ask, what stopped motivating them to do such?
And also, what stopped motivating you as well.
If your answer goes in something of the lines that, we don't need to bother because anime is already legally available then I'll have to say that you're full of bullshit.
Specially when it comes to the quality aspects you praise so much of, because watching a CR horriblesubs rip in 720p is almost as bad as watching a fucking XviD.
You did absolutely nothing to stop this and yet you still say that making it legal helped? Come on, it fucking killed everything.
>>120191473
Holy steaming poop, CR is an abomination
>>120191298
>>120191431
fuck off newfag
Why do you care about moot leaving if you aren't even a regular?
GAME OVER MAN
GAME FUCKING OVER
>>120191589
You should stop posting because your posts are full of retard.
>>120191680
Wrong anon, I'm from 2004 but left here when anime became shit and thus all the series being discussed were irrelevant to me.
>>120191793
okay
I definitely believe you
Go away now please
>>120189530
I imagine this is what it'll be like when you leave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRR33WDFi_k
So what I gather from this is that CR is the Animejunkies of subs only in a corporate form with bad video quality instead of bad subtitles and video-- and they are killing anime just like Animejunkies was killing anime in 2002 or whenever
How's Wizardchan?
>>120191589
>But my question is now related to he part I quoted. If you say it's a matter of what motivates people to fansub, then I'll ask, what stopped motivating them to do such?
Isn't that obvious? Pretty much everything gets simulcasted by legit streaming companies today. The legal options fulfill the goal of "making anime available" better than fansubbers ever could, and with the exception of latecasts there's no way to beat the legal options in speed either, so subbing for the sake "being out first" e-peen is pretty much out of the picture today as well. As such, it's only natural that basically just the quality people are left today to still do fansub releases for things.
>And also, what stopped motivating you as well.
I already talked about this - a big reason for me to do high quality digital distribution illegally in the form of fansubbing is that I couldn't do it legally - now that I'm able to do (even) high(er) quality digital distribution legally (and even get paid for it), it's simply much more attractive to work on (and sure, it's H-manga instead of anime, but I end up doing surprisingly similar things and both are something I enjoy anyway).
>>120191919
When will you admit that you're trying to destroy fansubbing by dictating who can and can't upload?
>>120181191
Excellent bait. 10/10.
>>120191919
Hey Daiz, where do you plan to go if 4chan is kill?
>>120192025
I don't know, and I don't see much reason to think about it unless it actually becomes necessary.
>>120189375
You didn't watch Fate/Zero, did you?
>>120191919
>there's no way to beat the legal options in speed either, so subbing for the sake "being out first" e-peen is pretty much out of the picture today as well.
Wow this is like I'm in a complete situation reversal from 2007 or whenever when the corporations were hand-wringing that they couldn't beat the fansubbers in speed
>>120191894
Nah, their subs are bad too. It's just their video quality is so terrible people tend to focus on it instead.
Hell, they always drop honorifics as far as I can tell.
>>120192059
You should go to fufufu or meguca.
>>120189530
If there's ever a more telling case of 'joke's on you, I was only pretending', it's you. You can fool yourself all you like, but you aren't fooling anyone else.
>>120191919
>The legal options fulfill the goal of "making anime available" better than fansubbers ever could
Except when it comes to image quality, typesetting quality and even translation quality.
You just admitted what I said. Making the distributions legal killed fansubbing.
If you still cared, you would have at least talked the the fansubbing community and striven to get at least a bunch of people still active who had the same goals as you did, quality in all aspects. But instead everything just died and you shifted your motivation towards something that fills your pockets.
You're basically a sellout, and this is how you are working against the fansubbing community instead of for it.
>>120192103
Yep, that was the big thing about simulcasting - legal options that actually beat the illegal ones in speed. Not only that, they could also do it with much better consistency since it's a business for them, not just a hobby. This is a very big reason why high quality legal options would be the ideal - you can only really guarantee speed and consistency like that legally.
>>120192232
That's bullshit. That kind of thing only works if it's an industry people can actually compete in, when it comes to media only one company is going to get the rights to translate and show the title and companies are always going to choose the option that gives them the best deal in terms of gain, always to the detriment of the customer.
It's the same exact shit that's already happened in the video game industry.
>>120182866
Lolicon is a far fucking cry from toddlercon, which itself is a far fucking cry from child pornography. You don't need to make that distinction, nobody who likes loli wants the kind of shit that those other sites bring in
>>120192454
It's probably shit. I'd rather continue learning moon and go to futaba.
>>120192454
no
/a/ - Your favorite PR guy's workplace.
Don't let this shit happen.
I don't care about moot but this song's pretty nice. What's the name of it?
>>120192454
That was fucking fast.
>>120192474
>toddlercon
I don't even understand how anyone can go looking for that.
>>120192200
>Except when it comes to image quality, typesetting quality and even translation quality.
Look, I've been talking about two different motivators to fansub - "making things available" and "having quality things". The fact that the latter is its own thing is because quality was never as big of a concern for the "making things available" people - in fact, back in the day some subbers even argued against the existence of things like DVDrips because they were "too high quality". According to them, fansubs should be "lower quality" so that it'll motivate people to support legal options.
And the fact is that the quality of legal options today is generally better than the shit you used to get with fansubs a decade or so back. For the "making things available" subbers, this level of quality is enough, and thus it fulfills their want for availability enough, and thus they don't really have a reason to fansub anymore.
>>120192200
>If you still cared, you would have at least talked the the fansubbing community and striven to get at least a bunch of people still active who had the same goals as you did, quality in all aspects.
I do still lead a fansub group where we do things, you know.
>>120192200
>you shifted your motivation towards something that fills your pockets.
Are you saying there's something wrong with making a living doing something that you've wanted to do for years?
>>120192200
Who cares about the fansubbing scene? CR and subsequently, HS for the jews provide more anime faster than any fansubbing group could. If fansubbers give a shit about actual translation and the projects they work on, they can easily work on projects that CR leaves out, or on ones they are working on but providing better translations if needed.
Nothing was a detriment to me whatsoever when CR got big, in fact, it was a bonus because I got more shows I liked faster, and could still download other group releases if needed. The pain of waiting weeks for one 20 minute episode, or the pain of watching a shitload of shows go down the drain never to be translated was horrible.
But that's crunchryroll, who offer their shit (at horrible quality) for free if you don't want to pay and have HS ripping directly from them and subsequent groups taking from them and changing the subtitles wherever they see fit. The Fakku issue is completely different because they will charge you 10x the normal price for the product in a small range and there are no alternatives to get it free anywhere else. I care more about the scanlation scene than I care about the fansubbing scene, many of the dead groups had shit torrents you couldn't even find anywhere or find a single person seeding even if that older anime DID get picked up by some of the groups.
friendly reminder that moot is on tumblr
>>120180945
I had already pretty much left
This place has completely changed.
>>120192597
"Naruto German Opening"
It's just too fucking sad man.
This place was/is like heaven for me.
Do you think that you could go back to using forums again after all those years you have spent here? I can't, they are way too cancerous.
All the fun, all the rage, all the feelings that I felt browsing 4chan and moot was always a part of it.
4chan has this certain magic. Every year some of it fades away and with moot going, a large part of the remaining magic will die too.
Seeing the creator walking away is so fucking sad.
Goodbye moot, I can honestly say that this place is the only place where I can be myself
>anime will be no more two years from now
Well, if the feminists have their way...
>>120192380
You're not really making sense. The only thing that's required for legal options to beat illegal ones in speed is to get the materials in advance and a permission to release right after the initial publication. You seem to be implying that exclusive licensing would be needed to make that happen, which is simply not true.
But speaking of exclusive licensing, I do completely agree with you that it's basically nothing but detrimental to consumers, as it results in competition being more about "who has what content" instead of "who has the best service". In that regard, I'd much prefer if all licensing was non-exclusive (and while we're dreaming, global as well).
Holy shit i didn't expect my thread to go this deep. Goes to show how bad it will get when it is officially time to say good bye.
>>120192776
Japan is at least safe from feminism.
>>120192802
This. The site isn't even downyetand people are talking about suiciding.
>>120192771
4chan is a forum.
>>120181191
I'm going to dоublесhаn, if anywhere, but I want to see the end of it first. I want to see it so bad. I want to see it. I want to. Really. Please, show me how bad it can get.
>>120189856
>Making something legal - FOR MONEY, always kills the free market.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? The free in free market is part of freedom, not free as in it doesn't cost anything. You need some RMS in your life.
>>120192891
meant to write other forums
>>120192843
It honestly worries me. If the good anons start leaving then /a/ will just become shittier.
>>120192706
NAROOTO
>>120192627
>I do still lead a fansub group where we do things, you know.
So you're saying Underwater is an active and actually alive fansubbing group that plans to continue fansubbing current shows and will still do so in the future?
Come on, it's not April fools yet. You didn't even picked up a single show this season.
>Are you saying there's something wrong with making a living doing something that you've wanted to do for years?
There's nothing wrong with that.
What's wrong is the principle behind the reasons on this that made you allegedly "lose the motivation" to stop caring about the fansubbing scene.
But you'll never admit this to be true.
On another note, I'd ask if you even had any plans to at least do a single typesetting stream like the old times, but the fact that you're not even working on CG just proves how much interested you are in this anymore.
>>120192891
4chan is an imageboard
>4chan dies
>I can finally just move on to reddit
I can't wait
>>120192651
>The Fakku issue is completely different because they will charge you 10x the normal price for the product
That's just not true.
>in a small range
That is... but only for now. The range of available content will obviously expand with time.
>and there are no alternatives to get it free anywhere else.
A vast exaggeration. One does not simply kill piracy with takedowns, though admittedly those can make things a bit more inconvenient. But the possibility of that inconvenience is something that you just have to accept when you're pirating shit.
>>120192651
>10x the normal price for the product
What are you smoking? Fakku digital releases are actually less than their japanese counterpart
https://store.fakku.net/promo/welcome-to-tokoharu-apartments
http://www.dmm.co.jp/dc/book/-/detail/=/cid=b915awnmg00385/
>>120192964
I stopped scanlating after 4chan blew it's shit about batoto enabling ads for scanlators. How can I be a part of the evil fakku empire?
>>120192919
I love when these events happen because you get retards like this who have never weathered a big event on /a/ before and think shit is going to get fucked up. You could practically go back on the archives half a decade ago and see people saying the exact same thing and freaking out the same way. I wonder where those kids are now?
>>120193054
but this time the actual creator just walks away. This is an actual big thing happening to the website and community
>>120193036
>I stopped scanlating after 4chan blew it's shit about batoto enabling ads for scanlators. How can I be a part of the evil fakku empire?
I'm a scanlator that uploads to fakku, we don't have ads on our accounts along with quite a few secret perks. I get paid for the views on my uploads (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
>>120192995
>>120192964
the guy is exaggerating but you fucking morons cant seriously tell me that's a valid price for a fucking digital scan which was previously available completely for free?
and you're fucking idiots, you can get that exact same shit for $2-4 on many websites. of course it's in japanese, but if i'm going to be paying fucking $20 for one book I might as well learn japanese for free on a thread here and buy a stack of doujins myself.
fakku isn't comparable at all, the takedowns have made things shit, even with regular manga it can be hard to find things floating around with whatever is taken down or lost forever when sites die, Fakku does the same hypocritical shit Crunchy did by going from pirating shit to making you pay money for it, difference is, CR is reasonably priced, HS exists, and people are still free to translate and upload whatever fucking anime they want whenever they want with no issues, which is the exact opposite on all counts with Fakku. 10x is ridiculous and nobody could get away with it not even the fucking idiots at J-list but those prices are just pure bullshit, you and Jacob can go fuck yourselves
>>120192952
Underwater is definitely alive, but working in reduced capacity because other things in my life take more priority now (in comparison, about a year ago fansubbing was about the only thing I had going for me, which is why we did a LOT of stuff).
>What's wrong is the principle behind the reasons on this that made you allegedly "lose the motivation" to stop caring about the fansubbing scene.
Dude, it really is quite simple. I care about high quality digital distribution. Fansubbing used to be the only way for me to do things related to that. Now I have an actual job working on legitimate high quality digital distribution of H-manga, and because legal digital distribution has a higher quality ceiling than illegal digital distribution, I end up caring more about the legal work I can do over the illegal one (especially because I also get paid for the legal work, whereas the illegal work is a pure time & money sink).
>I'd ask if you even had any plans to at least do a single typesetting stream like the old times
The main reason I don't do that anymore is because I don't really typeset anymore - I haven't kept up with all the crazy shit typesetters do today, which has made me into a mediocre typesetter at best. And streaming the stuff I do otherwise wouldn't be very interesting.
>>120181817
where
>>120193054
But it never happened here yet, or rather, I haven't seen it for myself. I was on 2ch.ru when it went down and things were fun.
I mean, really fun. Like, thousand people in an irc channel kind of fun. This place is so much bigger and if it ever collapses things will be just exciting.
>>120193240
On 4chan
>>120193112
So what? Yeah, people are freaking out about it now but we have crossboarders from all manner of boards.
Just one day previous to this, nobody gave a shit about moot on /a/, hell, the guy has barely even been here or posted here for a long time. He hasn't been an active participant in years to /a/ and everybody here knows that, moot has distanced himself from /a/ and anime and that part of his life and by leaving 4chan he shows he's distancing himself from 4chan alltogether.
This doesn't impact anyone because he's likely known about this for a year or even longer and has been transitioning for this moment for a long time. Nobody new is taking over as the head admin in this situation, if 4chan gets sold and some new guys are brought in to change things or monetize the site, then you kids can go apeshit over the death of 4chan or /a/. /a/ has always been an insular community and will continue to be so, as big as it is for moot to walk away this isn't going to change anything drastically in regards to /a/ unless the stuff I mentioned before happens
>>120193243
Okay? That's cool dude.
>>120193326
>nobody gave a shit about moot on /a/
Every his post gets a wall of replies.
Maybe because he has a red name, so he speaks the truth, but I think it's because we care about him.
>>120193326
Jesus christ, enjoying your first day here?
>>120193192
>for a fucking digital scan which was previously available completely for free?
You do know those works have always been commercial products, right? As in something that you are expected to pay for to legitimately enjoy. That's why legitimate digital versions of them also cost money, and that money goes toward supporting the creators so they'll keep doing stuff in the future as well.
>>120193218
What kind of stuff do typesetters do?
>>120192785
That's exactly the way getting the material is going to go.
Anime companies aren't going to just hand of the source material to whoever asks for it, it doesn't even work that way in Japan itself. Instead it will be one company who offers the best deal who gets the rights to the title and anyone else who wants to legally do anything with it is fucked unless the contract specifically allows the source company to make further deals.
Yea in an ideal world multiple companies would be allowed to offer their own translations for a single show but we don't live in an ideal world, we live in the real one. Denying reality isn't going to make it go away.
>>120193367
I meant everybody recognized he hadn't interacted with /a/ for a long time and nobody talked about him. Not in the way they do on /b/ or /pol/. Him leaving may be sad for now, but the majority of /a/ and not just the replies he's getting from every other crossboarder here will go on after he's gone and nothing is going to change, and 4chan isn't going to fucking die. Anyone seriously thinking that is retarded.
>>120193433
>Yea in an ideal world multiple companies would be allowed to offer their own translations for a single show but we don't live in an ideal world, we live in the real one.
Haven't you watched anime anon? We must use THE POWER OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP! to turn the real world INTO THE WORLD OF OUR DREAMS!
