ITT: Strongest characters of a series
goku
>>119501299
Gohan was stronger.
>>119501388
proof please
>>119501283
FTFY
>>119501388
Reached his limit, it's over for him. Now watch Goku and Vegeta go endless levels above him.
>>119501503
You have a point, but she's straight up bullshit, so doesn't count
>>119501470
Gohan had the largest talent of everyone in the series and that purple old guy unleashed all of it with that dance.
Goku + Vejita fusion was stronger than Gohan. But Goku was weaker.
>>119501567
If we're talking like that, aside from the freeza saga and halfway through the majin one, Goku only were the strongest in the climax, so there's no point arguing, it should have ended with the namek arc anyway.
>>119501503
How did Shichika kill her in the end? It's been a while since I watched the series and I can't actually remember.
Could solo all of Roanapur with his eyes closed if his main priority wasn't posing and monologuing.
>>119501567
That's wrong though, Gohan had the highest potential among non saiyans. True saiyans have limitless potential.
>>119501283
Excuse me
>>119501641
Cheap tricks and bullshit.
>>119501641
They turned of the lights so she can't see what he's going to do next. Shichika also had an improved version of Hachiretsu and that also helped.
>>119501719
I still laugh at his name being sqaured on his collar.
>>119501697
So he outsmarted her.
>>119501701
didn't her body also fall apart because it couldn't handle the amount of asspull she was conducting?
>>119501283
Shichika wasn't even top three within his series.
>>119502129
She also stopped eating and sleeping for like a month. She also saw through the final attack and still let it hit.
>>119501283
>>119502656
>Updates never
Op as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKiPOkh0K8
>>119501671
My dick was diamonds when this happened.
>>119502656
Truly a fearsome demon
>>119502828
>Julia Roberts never
>>119502613
>You will never get to read all the Katanagatari related books/LNs/Whatever.
Just kill me now.
>>119503166
>Implying he won't be powercreep as fuck by anything in the Dark Continent
>>119503192
>implying that we will get a new chapter.
>>119503192
>implying I implied
Also best mom 2014
This may come as a shock, but you just have to trust me.
>>119503233
togashi is the strongest asshole tied with miura.
![[HorribleSubs] Ping Pong the Animation - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.11.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0Jnhg22.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Ping Pong the Animation - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_21.11.jpg")
"Gilgamesh? What's that, some kind of fence?"
>>119501283
>>119501283
>>119503500
But could he defeat the crowned prince of freshness?
>>119503452
Did it get better? I dropped near chapter 50 when he just defeated that werewolf guy and was shit, even shittier than negima
>>119503452
LifeMaker > Nagi > Eva
>>119503539
the mahora festival starts soon and the turnament is ontop of the tower
>>119503418
Not even the strongest entity in Apocrypha.
>>119503538
as long as it is in 2d
>>119501666
If you don't count the recent film or GT(any why would you count GT) Gohan is the strongest non-fusion character out of the main cast.
>>119502063
It was schemer's idea, not his.
>>119503657
Yeah, that didn't answer my question. The powerlevel scaling is already nearing 1/4~1/2 of the negima and they were barely 50 chapters in and sincerely the whole drama with the genderless guy was annoying, I prefer the dead pan tsundere or whatever
>>119503727
Goku SSJ3 without any limiters is strong than him, perfect majin boo too
>>119503743
>The powerlevel scaling is already nearing 1/4~1/2 of the negima
>they were barely 50
Well, time to pick up this
>>119503787
How do I explain this to you?
Bootenk was the stronger version of Buu with the exception of Buuhan.
>>119503787
Gohan > Super Buu> SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku
>>119501283
>>119503921
In the buu saga at least, it changes in the films
>>119503682
He is, and he would've won if he hadn't been facing the second strongest Apocrypha and his anti-god NP hadn't been blocked by the only NP whos abilities were vague enough to counter it with pure bullshit. And if he hadn't used it he'd simply remain completely invincible.
>>119503834
>Well, time to pick up this
things finally start moving, mana told touta to get a finishing move just like rakan did to negi, so we are in for a ride
>>119503500
I'll never forgive him for killing best girl
>>119503921
>>119503787
>>119503727
>>119501666
>>119501567
>>119501388
>>Comparing Gohan to a god
Nicetry faggots.
>>119504033
On the bright side, she finally got to make use of that coffin-stuffing skill she'd been waiting to try.
why i can't post gifs? it says that my captcha has expired and then when i tried to recaptcha it gives me error
>>119504095
this ruined the show for me so fucking muchthe only one i enjoyed watching getting drugged and raped in a doujin EVER
>>119501283
>>119504014
> Sieg
> with Frankenmoe buff
> and Achilles shield of bullshit
>>119503308
>get's killed by retard and edgelord
>>119504539
Who is the retard? Naruto is pretty smart in battle
>>119504095
She's actually super weak compared to any of the actual fighters
>>119504628
Sakura.
Assuming servants don't count.
>>119503396
You didn't post Smile by accident, who let Peco win, as per the manga's depiction.
>>119501641
Cheap tricks, asspull, Nanami throwing.
Maybe not yet, but if we're honest we all know he will be by the end.
>>119501283
The MC.
/thread
>>119503327
That useless fuck is just stealing credit for real feats.
He's a lame C rank loser, there's no way he could be worth anything.
>>119504992
m8 there's zelretch.
I'm assuming you are not including DAAs and types because they don't appear in fate.
Although I do wonder how she would hold up against Fujino's clairvoyance-enhanced abilities.
Saviour.
Fight me faggots.
>>119505204
Zelretch's a DAA too.
Bagels is still probably not as strong as Barthomeloi anyways, and has shit compatibility with anyone with MeoDP.
Of the characters that appear on the 3 mainFate/something she's weaker than super Kirei too.
>>119505212
regular or void? Void is like having a character fight their own creator.
>>119505495
Regular of course..
Void is basically cheating.
>>119501283
> Strongest characters of a series
2X Combo
>>119505212
I don't remember that scene, the fuck is it from?
>>119505535
If you go by the numbers, fujino would beat shiki, but that would imply that numbers mean anything in type moon.
>In addition to her Mystic Eyes, Fujino also achieved Clairvoyance during the battle with Shiki; combined with her Distortion, this allowed her to bend objects outside of direct eye contact, making her a fearsome opponent. She achieves the greatest ability within the story when looked at from pure statistics.[2] After the events of the Broad Bridge incident, her eyesight became extremely poor to the point where she has to rely on a blind stick.
>>119505594
newest movie featuring yakuza boss milf shiki and her adorable daughter
>>119505594
mirai fukuin.
>he missed the miracle of the universe
>>119505835
>newest movie
Wat, I only heard about some re-broadcast ov the OVAs in TV, what the fuck am I missing?
I only watched the old OVAs
>>119505997
Naaaa he will fall.
Uchiha Madara.
>>119505204
>Old Man of the Jewels
>beating Bazetto
No way, maybe before he wrecked the Crimson Moon.
![[Commie] Kara no Kyoukai - Mirai Fukuin [BD 720p AAC] [A5D33916].mkv_snapshot_01.05.03_[2014.05.13_22.44.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2xKMbBv.jpg "[Commie] Kara no Kyoukai - Mirai Fukuin [BD 720p AAC] [A5D33916].mkv_snapshot_01.05.03_[2014.05.13_22.44.29].jpg")
>>119505792
The big questionmark is whether Shiki would be able the cut the bending magic again.
Previously the fight pretty much made a 180 degree turn when she figured out how they worked.
>>119505845
milf Shiki didn't get anywhere near enough screentime
>>119506040
so did aizen
>>119506354
>> Implying aizen didn't say he was just watching how things happen if he takes a interest he will move
That was in this current arc when the almighty went and asked aizen to join him.
>>119506135
Which Madara though
>>119506505
Well I'm certainly not talking about Edo Tensei Madara.
>>119506252
Shiki knows how to cut it already, so there is no need to learn again. The problem now is that fujino will bend her from out of nowhere, like behind walls and stuff.
>>119503396
Smile let Peco win though.
>>119507221
Nah, that was the limit of his talent
>>119505522
>>119503981
Mami is the strongest
>>119502643
On top of that she removed the weight behind her blows when she was hitting him with those speed blitz techniques.
You have to consider that she has the strength of a full grown mountain man, yet she hit him with with weightlessness using that bug guys abilities
literal cheat
>>119507453
Outside God modes Madoka would be the strongest. She killed Walpurgisnacht in one hit once, her strongest witch forms can destroy the Earth after awhile or become larger than the Earth itself.
![[Elysium]Katanagatari.EP12(BD.720p.FLAC)[9D2400CB].mkv_snapshot_28.14_[2015.01.08_15.59.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mkXyOTO.jpg "[Elysium]Katanagatari.EP12(BD.720p.FLAC)[9D2400CB].mkv_snapshot_28.14_[2015.01.08_15.59.21].jpg")
>>119501503
>implying
>>119507404
You didn't read the manga because if you had, you would have known this. Smile let him win, EVERYTHING points to this. Even Kazama said he could have still gone pro, it's just that he didn't want to.
>>119501283
>>119501283
izi, there's not even competition
>>119507958
>I fucked all this guys
>>119501472
>Died in every reset
It's flat out said that Madoka is the strongest.
>>119508337
Wrong.
Madoka has the most magical potential so she can make almost anything happen.
Mami wrecked Homura, who has obscene combat capabilities remotely with a copy made of ribbons.
>>119505188
He's B rank, now
>>119503452
>Come on
>Get on your knees
Trigger warning.
>>119506505
Ghetto rhinestone Uchiwawa Madura
>>119508552
He must've stolen a lot of credit, then.
>>119508567
For my dick, maybe.
>>119508539
And she only got that potential after Homura messed countless timelines. Talent and prowess alone Mami is the strongest.
>>119507457
but ORT
>>119506194
Full potential Bazette is considered Ciel tier. Old man Zelretch would still wreck her ass.
>>119508552
He's A-rank.
>>119508900
Didn't the writer of type moon said that Ciel is the strongest non servant/literallygod/planet will character?
>>119509192
Dead Apostle Ancestors (power would vary here between the 27) => Aozaki Aoko > Kishima Kouma > F/Z Kirei > Ciel > Bazette
>>119506135
Wasn't his homosexual lover stronger?
>>119509285
Reminder that Fiamma can beat anything in Nasuverse.
>>119509489
Touma can beat any servant too, he would die in seconds to kiritsugu though
>>119509285
>Fiamma
>strongest
Aleister wrecked the kid twice without even trying.
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>>119509744
>ambushed him when he was already depowered
What a pussy.
>>119506354
Aizen fell according to his own plan.
Keikaku dori.
>>119509489
>>119509489
Fate/Extra CCC says otherwise.
>>119509903
Holy Right lolgg
>>119509903
>>119509965
Fiamma is as powerful as he needs to be to win.
>>119509975
>>119510052
Holy Right still doesn't make him immortal.
So he is not able to go against a real god.
>>119510052
But he's still slow as fuck.
Auto-defense can't block anything either.
>>119510147
>Fiamma
>Slow
Are you fucking high?
>“I do not need speed.”
>A cold voice cut her off.
>Forcefully.
>Exceedingly overwhelming.
>“If I swing, I hit my enemy, so I don’t need to >put any effort into hitting them.”
>Kamijou did not know what happened.
>The next thing he knew, Fiamma, who was >supposed to be a few kilometers away, was
>situated right under Vento’s chin and her body >was blown away an instant later.
>>119510218
He himself is slow as fuck, his Holy Right does all the work.
>>119503327
fake
>>119510052
And that's the ability of types with backup from their planet as well.
Plus mythological gods are summonable servants in the mooncell.
>>119510281
Guess what the holy right is? Something that he was born with, and something that will never go away.
>>119510396
What can those gods do though? The title god doesn't mean anything at all, it all depends on what being a god means in that universe.
>>119510052
That's a no - limits fallacy. The fastest thing the Holy Right blocked was a laser from space. He'll get killed against an attack faster than light.
>>119505055
>>119507221
I didn't read the manga, so this could be my own interpretation, but it seemed pretty clear in the anime. Butterfly Joe was not a foreshadowing, but a foil to Smile. By going easy on Ryuu Kazama, Butterfly Joe lost his career and more importantly his friendship. Meanwhile, Smile trusted in Peco's ability to rise to the challenge and be the hero that prevails against all odds. As a result, their friendship remains intact and Smile's career is still open to him as Dragon mentions. However, by his own choice, Smile decides not to as it is not in his nature. Butterfly Joe was the opposite as he wanted to go on, but the media killed his career.
>>119510478
Arguing about no limits fallacies is pointless, every single ability in the raildex verse is a NLF. His holy right is supposed to be like that, the whole point is that it will ALWAYS be strong enough to match the threat.
>>119510652
>loses to Akame in a 1v1
>>119510682
>animefag
>>119510396
>And that's the ability of types with backup from their planet as well.
Sure, but the planet can only supply what it has.
Fiamma's power is capped by whatever Archangel Michael.
Archangels in Index are obscenely powerful, a weakened Gabriel casually moved stars around to make a magic circle cast an obscenely overpowered spell.
Michael is the highest ranking archangel and the likeness of God.
>>119510478
>He'll get killed against an attack faster than light
Gabriel clearly moves things, especially light, faster than light, otherwise him moving the stars to create a magic circle wouldn't be visible or noticeable.
Angel shit doesn't rely on time.
Fiamma is as fast as he needs to be.
>>119510577
FTL attacks are faster than an instant.
>>119510693
>image posted was from the anime
retard
>>119510717
Speed is literally not even a relevant concept for Fiamma. It doesn't matter how fast it is.
>nobody mentioned actually The Strongest
>>119510577
I can pull that same card with a lot of verses or characters' powers. Just because a power doesn't have an stated limit doesn't mean we have to assume it has none without feats to back it up. By that logic Fiamma can beat multiversal-level characters, which is retarded.
>>119510682
She would have won had she not been worn down by fighting the revolution army previously.
>>119510218
What if someone kills him before he even concieves the idea of swinging his hand?
>>119510850
Let me explain how a fight against Fiamma usually works:
Are you affected by his holy right's instantkill and instanthit abilities?
>Yes
You lose
>No
You lose unless you can wreck his meager more mundane powers.
>>119510902
Time clearly doesn't matter to angel stuff, otherwise Gabriel couldn't visibly have rearranged the stars to cast a spell. Twice.
>>119510697
>Gabriel clearly moves things
That doesn't mean he himself is faster than light specially when he has no feat to back it up. Please stop with the fanwanking ToArufag, it's starting to get pathetic.
>>119510850
As this anon said, his power comes from the Archangel Michael, who is the likeness of god. A weakened Gabriel was able to move stars around like they were toys, and Gabriel is weaker than Michael. Unless it's more powerful than Archangel Michael, he can't lose.
>>119510902
Wouldn't happen, his autodefense would protect him.
>>119510850
Arguing logic with Indexfags is a mostly fruitless endeavor. You're better off trying to stick your own erect dick in your ass and mouth simultaneously.
>>119510967
Except Fiamma and the Holy Right itself would get destroyed against an attack FTL. The HR has no feat of defending against an attack FTL., simple as that. Your fanwanking means nothing.
>>119510815
who is the strongest touhou anyway?
yuyuko?
yukari?
flandre?
kanako?
byakuren?
>>119510411
>Will never go away
Sure, sure. Bet you didn't even read the novels.
>>119511045
You are right. I don't know why I even bother.
>>119507958
is she really still the strongest?
>>119511084
Powerlevel arguments in general mean nothing, it's all about who can fanwank their overpowered character more in the most believable way.
>>119510967
Rearranging the stars can easily be measured by giving a timeframe and the stars used in the act
>>119511154
Any of the high tiered ones. If they ever fight, the faster one is the winner.
>>119510978
>That doesn't mean he himself is faster than light specially when he has no feat to back it up
He can either act and make things happen faster than light, including doing silly stuff like moving the light being emitted by the stars, time travel or has obscene precognitive abilities.
Weakened Gabriel was the weakest angel of them.
Pick whichever you prefer, they all have the same outcome.
>>119510411
The Holy Right is deteriorating with constant use.
That's why Fiamma needed IB and Index.
Fun fact: LPSaD Fiamma can do anything God does.
>>119511154
Yukari, Koichi and Flan are contenders.
The fastest one wins.
>>119511236
Rearranging stars in a way that it's visible from Earth implies one of those three.
You can choose whichever you like, they all have the same implications.
Reminder that Aleister wrecks everyone by setting their Archetype to "villain" and his own to "hero".
>>119509489
topkek
>>119511434
What am I looking at here
>>119511328
>He can either act and make things happen faster than light
Except you have no proof he can do this shit. Just because he moved the stars at FTL speed doesn't mean Gabriel can react or fight at FTL speed. Wank harder.
>time travel or has obscene precognitive abilities
This is false as well. And even if that were true, wouldn't help him against FTL attacks.
>>119511328
>Rearranging stars in a way that it's visible from Earth implies one of those three.
You can choose whichever you like, they all have the same implications.
Which implications?
Even if it's faster than light, there is a cap on how fast it is.
>>119511464
The only dildo big enough to satisfy your mom.
>>119511566
His demon daddy was stronger.
>>119511566
That's wrong though.
>>119511154
Yorihime.
Gods > Youkai
>>119511637
>>119511645
Lies and deception.
His demon dad doesn't have the power of friendship.
>>119511605
Hell even if we assign the speed of the movement of the stars to Gabriel's own, which would be wrong of course, he still gets wrecked. Fate/Extra top tiers are hundreds of millions to billions of times FTL.
>>119511676
It's not even only his dad. There were several stronger guys in the demon world.
>>119511704
Well, in that case just throw a magic god at them. Fiamma isn't actually the strongest even though he's my favorite character.
>>119511537
>doesn't mean Gabriel can react [...] at FTL speed
Actually that's exactly what it means, otherwise he couldn't stop the stars in exactly the right place.
>>119511537
>This is false as well
No.
Remember, stars are really, really far away.
If he paints the night sky using stars, that either has to mean that he moved the stars while reacting faster than light to stop them when they're in the right place or that the moved the stars a long time before the fight, so it looks like he did it while casting his spell.
>statistically impossible to beat
>has survived being burned alive 4 times, frozen, dropped from orbit, shot in the heart, and other numerous wounds and injuries
>his superiors tried to kill him about 50 times just to see if he could die
>reacts so fast his AI built specifically to predict and counter superhuman enemy movements burnt out trying to keep up with him
>routinely 1v40s
>went up against TWO ARMIES with about 5 dudes backing him up and won
>1v200 against some mercenary faggots
>religious organization with followers all over the galaxy regards him as a natural disaster, and shit themselves when they learn he's coming after them
>he kicks their army's teeth in with only the help of a doctor
>killcount is at 2 planets, god, 3 fleets, 25 million friendly units, plus a similar number of enemy units, 3 armies, a number of supersoldiers, and counting up
>>119501648
Lol
>>119511801
>25 million friendly units, plus a similar number of enemy units
Feels good to have a series with an indisputable overpowered strongest so you don't have to deal with powerlevel shitposting
>>119505055
>>119507221
Nope. Smile viewed Peco as a hero and a hero can overcome all obstacles. He challenged Peco to see if he truly was a hero and in the end he understands that Peco really was a hero as he was able to overcome his injury and still win against him.
Sorry for poor English.
Probably
>>119511704
Othinus "why bother fighting when I can just end the world and make a new one without enemies" can effortlessly crush everything Nasuverse, except for true demon, at the same time with her preferred method.
>>119511870
They're not really friendly after trying to kill him so hard.
>>119511889
>I'm sure Kizu will get announced after next arc.
Why do I keep telling that myself?
>>119512078
>Implying Shirou wouldn't befriend the shit out of her
>>119503452
That's not Negi.
>>119512256
Othinus has no reason to bother mindbreaking Shirou, she can just make a new one who is her best friend.
>>119505997
Wrong. Gary Stu reporting in as the strongest, just you wait for the upcoming intense training to develop the ultimate technique.
![[UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_05_[BD][h264-720p_AC3][F82B7255].mkv_snapshot_09.07_[2015.01.08_14.55.06].png](https://i.imgur.com/pkgT2d0.jpg "[UTW]_Fate_Zero_-_05_[BD][h264-720p_AC3][F82B7255].mkv_snapshot_09.07_[2015.01.08_14.55.06].png")
>>119512390
Hardly, he couldn't even take on Fiamma.
It would be funny to see him try, though.
>>119512390
Gil would be dead before he even knew he was in a fight against Fiamma.
>>119512078
The mooncell pretty much allows you to do the same.
>>119512441
>>119512492
>ITT: Characters that can defeat Fiamma
Demonbane.
>>119505212
That'd depend on if you consider ORT and gang as part of KnK since they're supposed to exist in the same world.
>>119512390
Arceuid > Gilgamesh
>>119512441
>>119512492
I didn't know your husbando was in the Nasuverse
I'm pretty sure that absolute zero guy from Part 5 would be the strongest if he wasn't a dumbass also could GER beat Maido in Heaven?>>119507642
>>119501299
Bills is stronger in every way
And then there's like 8 other gods stronger than him
>>119512676
>I didn't know your husbando was in the Nasuverse
Fiamma is a comfy baseline for Nasuverse, because we've managed to establish that Nasuverse Amaterasu is stronger than him.
>>119512452
I love how Dofli thought he was so smart with that idea and then it backfired horribly.
>>119511660
Won't Shinki and gang be stronger in that regard? They're gods after all.
>>119512676
Fiamma > 100% Arcueid
>>119508069
did he became god or something.
>>119511154
all of them defeated by this girl
>>119512519
I'm not even a Raildex shitposter but Othinus is a capital-G omnipotent God with power over the entire universe and the Mooncell is a giant magical computer with no power beyond its virtual reality and indirectly Earth.
There's nothing in Fate that could defeat her if she was making any effort to stop them.
>>119512943
Othinus has a 50% chance of failure doesnt she.
>>119512899
>all of them defeated by this girl
Nah.
Yukari can draw with her.
Raymoo might be completely invincible, but her offense sucks.
>>119512704
Frieza > Bills
>>119512539
Ajimu Najimi, Saitama, ORT and co?
>>119509386
when did this happen?
google search only gives broken chinese pages
>>119512965
She did, before she got sick of fucking around and pulled her spear out of her eye missing.
>>119512988
>ORT
No way.
>>119512899
Won't Reimu lose terribly if they actually start blasting each other with real spells?
>>119512704
Bills isn't that much stronger than Goku.
He is a 10 and Goku's a 7.
inb4
>but she got cut off into a million different pieces!
It's a Gainax ending, so it doesn't count.
>>119512943
Haven't been keeping up with Fate shit but isn't King Prothea also universal level?
>>119512899
Reimu has the ultimate defense making her undefeatable, but she's not necessarily the most powerful by any means
>>119512965
No, resolving that issue is what elevates her to perfect Magic God status and she decides to remake existence on a whim immediately afterwards.
>>119512899
>spellcard rules
Also she loses to moonbitch. Under spellcard rules.
THIS SHIT IS WHY I HATE POWERLEVEL THREADS.
It's seriously like comparing apples and oranges. You're comparing characters that function under completely different sets of rules, and you try to force them to coexist.Shiki can kill Fiamma and Othinus, discuss.
This guy.
>>119512770
Arc is the only Extra character with a chance of beating Amaterasu.
>>119513103
Fiamma could and would beat Shiki to death with his bare hands.
>>119513103
Yea no shit Shiki can kill them, even I can kill them if you just gave me a machine gun and get them to stand still.
Winning a fight is a different matter.
>>119513103
The problem is that large part of the people that post in this thread can't into the very basic of powerlevels aka:
FEATS AND EVIDENCE.
>>119513162
>Getting into melee range vs Shiki
Oh shit nigger what're you doing.
Tohno especially, he has some kind of combat clairvoyance not unlike Touma's.
>>119513027
>>119513095
Reimu is unbeatable when she's not giving a damn about the rules.
The spellcard rules exist so Raymoo doesn't effortlessly crush them every single fight, so other can actually fight Reimu and that Yukari doesn't have to rebuild Gensokyo whenever somewhat strong individuals clash.
>>119513247
Fiamma has no use for speed.
Fiamma has no use for force.
Fiamma has no use for accuracy.
>>119513333
Shiki has the Tohno gland.
Thought touma was OP?
THINK AGAIN.
>>119513238
See but that's the issue when talking about anime and manga characters, authors usually don't give them thorough feats of power, they tell you what the character can do and leave it at that.
>>119513247
>Implying he could even touch Fiamma in melee range
Even if Fiamma fucked up and Shiki was going to cut him, his autodefense would protect him. There's no way Shiki's brain wouldn't explode in that case.
>>119513380
Fiamma is not a girl, so the Tohno gland doesn't help.
>>119513247
Shiki can't beat someone who doesn't follow powerlevel rules.
>>119513279
Moonbitch still beat her. They even mentioned that she's still inexperienced compared to moonbitch and will lose.
>>119513403
Tohno will kill Fiamma's manhood
>>119513247
Fiamma is fast enough to land a hit.
Fiamma is strong enough to make that hit an instant kill.
>Tohno especially, he has some kind of combat clairvoyance not unlike Touma's.
Doesn't matter, he could have the universe warping itself to make him win and he'd still lose.
Fiamma won against Touma every single time, even on the flying fortress.
