>watch Index
>want Misaka to get screentime
>watch Railgun
>want Touma to get screentime
What is this?
Shipping.
I just want to see them chillin', maybe a little cookin', some sleepin', cuddlin'.
>>111158092
Shipping mindset. Pretty much exactly what i went through before i read the LNs, now i don't want to see Misaka at all anymore
>watch Index
>want KurokoxTouma
>watch Railgun
>want SatenxTouma
I'm so confused.
>>111158092
>watch Index
>want Misaka to get screentime
>watch Railgun
>get sick of Misaka and her group, want to see science people get assblasted for not understanding IB
That's how it was for me. Touma can consistently amuse me when not in action, Misaka can't.
>>111158189
>now i don't want to see Misaka at all anymore
care to explain? I'm curious.
I'll probably read the LN too, but it's not my highest priority
>>111159909
Lack of development, she feels rather stale at some periods of time. On top of that i just find the girls that start appearing later in the story more interesting and appealing
So basically opinions and preferences
>>111159909
Well, unrelated to her personality and development because >opinions, she gets pretty irrelevant in the arcs following the end of the anime because Touma spends the time in Yurop, but she's so popular among the fanbase that it's pretty much required that she has appearances often, no matter how little, but without being involved in the plot at ALL.
Even now, she doesn't know SHIT about what's happening, but she's still getting in the middle of events, which are getting to apocalypse levels.
It's because both Misaka and Touma are infinitely better in small doses.
>>111160309
>Even now, she doesn't know SHIT about what's happening, but she's still getting in the middle of events, which are getting to apocalypse levels.
You can make that argument for Touma, Accel and Shiage as well.
>>111161350
Touma is central to these events and is very aware of what's happening, even if he doesn't have access to the upper keikaku.
Accel and Shiage got their screentime very reduced as their stories "ended".
>>111161642
And still Touma is easily manipulated because he ignores a lot of things, and when he's not, he interferes in things that have nothing to do with him.
Mikoto basically does the same, but only limited to Touma.
where should I start reading the LN if I have watched all the to aru index related anime series?
>>111162642
Vol 14. Though Index III is close.
>>111162178
Touma generally knows what he gets into (even if he doesn't have a say in when or why), and works to deal with the problem, while Misaka appears out of nowhere late in the arc, having no clue what's happening and following Touma because Touma, then might or might not throw a couple of lightning bolts to help (still not knowing what's going on of course).
NT3 and 8 were good attempts at inserting her into the plot by actually doing it before it got going but ended being kind of lackluster as she STILL had no idea. After a while one can't help but think that it would make more sense for someone with an actual notion of the context to be there.
>>111162801
>how close haven't heard anything yet
Mikoto is a shitty character.
>>111163041
Your mom is a shitty character.
>>111162814
>NT3 and 8 were good attempts at inserting her into the plot by actually doing it before it got going but ended being kind of lackluster as she STILL had no idea
What are you talking about? She has never appeared out of nowhere nor late.
She was aware of what was happening in Hawaii and Othinus' attack. She's also one of the few characters that know what happened to Touma in NT9. Just because the plot doesn't revolve around doesn't mean she's 100% clueless. The only time that happened was in Russia, and even so, she decided to set foot in a war zone after realizing AC was sending assassin squads to retrieve Touma.
She only lacks the magic lecture from Birdway and she'd have the same awareness as Shiage and Accel. But it's not like knowing about how magic works is going to be useful for an Esper. Just look at how Accel was tricked into casting a spell that was about to kill him by some random gremlin magicians.
>>111163521
>But it's not like knowing about how magic works is going to be useful for an Esper
It's about how involved she's with the plot the other characters are dealing with. Pretty much everyone else who does shit is into what Gremlin really is about, why it came to be and where it's going, while she tags along with nothing more than "terrorist dudes with some bumbo jumbo I don't get"
The problem isn't the above though, it feels shoehorned because it keeps happening, and worse, we're still at the starting point, terrorist dudes with mumbo jumbo.
The Birdway lecture may not be THAT important, but there's also the fact that the ones who actually got it went back to their own stuff while Misaka keeps tagging along.
>>111164769
>Pretty much everyone else who does shit is into what Gremlin really is about, why it came to be and where it's going, while she tags along with nothing more than "terrorist dudes with some bumbo jumbo I don't get"
She tagged along with Touma at the end of NT2, and at that time nobody really knew what Gremlin was going after. They only knew what Birdway told them and it was still very vague.
I know it's easy to forget, but remember that Thor was the one who came to her and asked her to fight in NT6, and she coincidentally spotted Touma in NT8, so NT3 was the only time she tagged along of her own iniciative.
They usually have fun interactions
>>111166180
>dat hover hand
>>111158092
>watch Index
>want Misaka Imouto / LO / Worst to get screentime
>watch Railgun
>want Touma to get screentime
Now this I can agree with
>>111163521
Lessar tried, but Mikoto is just too damn dumb
>>111166180
>fun
Like that time the stupid bitch electrocuted Touma while he was hobbling around with a gun shot wound. Then she refused to translate everything in entirety because it was some other girl.
>>111168584
>Using her scientific knowledge to rationalize the explanation about magic
>Dumb
Yeah man, it's not like every damned Esper doesn't do this when magic happens. And Lessar gave up too quickly. She didn't even try to have a conversation.
>>111168751
Accelerator was specially dumb in his manga, "hurr durr this chick can raise the dead that is some weird esper power"
Hopefully it's the brain damage.
>>111168679
Let's not also forget that Touma previously ditched her in Hawaii without saying anything, then groped her out of nowhere and left her behind, that Thor egged her on with lies and she didn't know about his wound, and that the part she didn't want to translate was completely irrelevant to the situation.
But oh noes, muh Touma, muh hero, the fault is always of the stupid bitches around him, he never does any wrong and doesn't deserve what he gets.
>>111166180
what's happening in the picture? Is she raping him?
>>111169145
>making excuses for a violent thundertwat that attacks a kid for no fucking reason
>>111169145
Your post is mostly right, but
>he never does any wrong and doesn't deserve what he gets.
He realy doesn't. The only time I remember him deserving the beating he got was when the Delta Force jumped on Fukiyose for advice in massage devices.
>>111169284
>I'm a brainless idiot
>>111169294
Are you saying a girl doesn't have the right to be fucking mad if a boy comes and out of nowhere gropes her? Try doing that and no matter if she's a friend or an acquaintance, she'll beat the shit out of you.
>>111169965
You say it like he does it on purpose. In Touma's case he literally has the unverse against him.
The result of the actions is natural and the girls can't be blamed, but the action itself was something he never intended and never would have done.
>>111170264
>You say it like he does it on purpose
But he does. I mean, why did he want to grope Mikoto's body in the first place? He didn't even bother to check if it was Thor disguised or the Original. Terrible mistake and he got punished for it. Just in NT10, he was bullying Mikoto so badly and acting like an idiot that he needed to taste his own medicine.
>>111170622
too bad he didn't frenda her with that five over
>>111170807
Good thing you aren't in charge of writing this shit.
>want Index screentime
>???
>>111170622
>I mean, why did he want to grope Mikoto's body in the first place? He didn't even bother to check if it was Thor disguised or the Original
By this point you'd realize that he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. He didn't think of the posibility of meeting the actual Misaka instead f Thor, but that's retardation, not maliciousness.
In NT10's case, he wasn't taunting her either. His everyday life consisted on being chased by her, so after tasting the worst hell imaginable the battle with Misaka WAS a break for him..
Besides the actual punching was't about him being a dense, insensitive dumbass after school, but massive trauma and mental scars.
>>111171231
I can only picture someone wanting more Indexchu
>>111170622
He poked what he thought was Thor in the chest and told "him" that he was sick of "him" fucking around. There is nothing wrong with that, it is a misunderstanding, just as much as Mikoto electrocuting him while he was wounded was a misunderstanding.
>he was bullying Mikoto so badly and acting like an idiot that he needed to taste his own medicine.
He mocked her a little bit. So she literally hit him over and over while he wasn't defending himself, proceeded to act like she knew better than he did when in reality she couldn't even begin to grasp the level of suffering Touma went through, then electrocuted him.
It got the job done, but dont you fucking dare say that he "got a taste of his own medicine". He didnt even lay a fucking finger on her, and she went way overboard on someone who was emotionally distraught and already wounded, all because her ego got a little bruised. I normally like Mikoto, but holy fuck I wish Touma would have slugged her at the end just once.
>>111171672
>I normally like Mikoto, but holy fuck I wish Touma would have slugged her at the end just once.
or cut her in half with the five over
>>111171730
Mugino PLEASE
Best Level 5's coming through
Why /a/ hate Misaka? i think she cute and best girl
>>111171841
She's fine, but as >>111171672 said, what she did in NT10 really rubbed me the wrong way.
>>111171833
>NotAccel and NotTouma
But anyway, Kakine is fine, but Gunha doesn't look passionate enough. His eyes are short on GUTS
>>111171841
which one? they're all great except mikoto who is a shit.
When the fuck is Unlucky going to get the new chart out?
>>111171950
When the first Index III episode airs
>>111171479
>so after tasting the worst hell imaginable the battle with Misaka WAS a break for him.
It still wasn't a good way of displaying it. She was clearly mad and he was only adding fuel to the fire with his words.
>He poked what he thought was Thor in the chest and told "him" that he was sick of "him" fucking around. There is nothing wrong with that, it is a misunderstanding
He wouldn't have asked if the chest was real if he was only "poking" him. He clearly grabbed her tits and didn't care.
>proceeded to act like she knew better than he did when in reality she couldn't even begin to grasp the level of suffering Touma went through, then electrocuted him.
>It got the job done, but dont you fucking dare say that he "got a taste of his own medicine"
The scene was terribly written, yes, but the narrative put Touma in the wrong and Mikoto in the right. That's just how this rolls. She broke his illusions in the same way he does everyone else .
>>111171942
The butthurt never ends, I see.
>>111172067
>It still wasn't a good way of displaying it. She was clearly mad and he was only adding fuel to the fire with his words.
As I said, retardation, not maliciousness. It's not like he was the one who travelled all the way to Europe mess with her business.
>>111171841
She's just more popular than the obscure girls people who want to be cool like.
It's been like this since NT3. During that time the target of bitching and hating was the infamous magic rings and the fact that she was the only haremette that teamed up with Touma, leaving Index at home. Then NT5 came out and she got 5 illustrations for like 6 pages of appearances, enough fuel for more hating. NT6 was kinda peaceful, but the scene with Cendrillon was trolled to hell. Same with NT7 and the rooftop scene. NT8 wasn't particularly bad, but NT10 almost reached NT3 levels of people frustrated, this time because muh Touma was the one defeated by her.
>>111172518
>and the fact that she was the only haremette that teamed up with Touma, leaving Index at home
What about Itsuwa?
>>111172748
She wasn't in Hawaii.
>>111172881
Ah, sorry, I thought you meant in general.
It's simple, you like their chemistry and want them to interact.
>>111158092
>watch Index
>want Accel to get screentime
>watch Railgun
>want Accel to get screentime
>read Accel
>not enough Accel shenanigans
>no Hamazura anything
>>111173006
If only they had their old chemistry back. These days he has too much stuff to do to have a normal conversation, and she becomes a fucking mess with but a glance of him.
>watch Index
>want Vento to get screentime
>chemistry
>>111172518
The NT3 complaints were retarded, I agree, but hardly anybody liked her NT10 scene, not even the most hardcore fans and shippers.
I know that Kamachi wants us to take it as Mikoto saving Touma as stated in the afterword, mirroring it to his talk with the Will in NT9 as one of the high points of the novel, but boy it was the worst chapter in the boss rush, by far.
First with Touma angsting out of nowhere about things he supposedly had gotten over, conveniently when he was about to win the fight, then with Mikoto suddenly believing his words in order to get the upper hand in the fight and argument, thing that she wasn't doing at all just fucking seconds before. Of course, she talks like she had even a remote idea of what happened to in the Omega world and the extent of his mental scars. Let's not even talk about the unnecessary and off-putting one-sided violence that made the scene hard to read and take seriously.
My general sentiment after this battle is that Kamachi's writing takes a massive nosedive when the scene is about Mikoto and Touma, even worse when he tries to make it serious like this battle. And my conclusion is that, as much as I like Mikoto, she doesn't have what it takes to cause a positive impression, a major impact on Touma, or in scenes with Touma. Her personality and character don't complement Touma's at all, and the chemistry is terrible. Leave that work to Will-tan. In one scene she is already one of the best partners and advisors Touma can ask for. There's literally no purpose for Mikoto to keep appearing if the collective will of her clones is there for him. It only takes to compare their scenes in NT9 and NT10 to realize this.
>>111159909
Because she wants to do it with you. Baka.
>>111173925
>hardly anybody liked her NT10 scene, not even the most hardcore fans and shippers
Gr8 b8 m8
>>111172748
She's in Jail.
>>111173925
Kamachi simply failed to get her involved enough in time. I believe that most of the problems with Mikoto would be fixed if he officially joined "the gang", but this never happened and when her scene came up in NT10 she was nothing but a stranger. Kamachi should have realized this and waited to try again after the Othinus arc.
Right now, if he plans of using her again, she needs a halthy dose of adventure with Touma and she needs it fast otherwise this will keep happening.
>>111174019
But it's true. Most were just neutral about it, and the negative opinion was slightly more prominent than the positive. Shipping? non-existant.
The complete opposite happened in NT9 with Will-tan. 100% positive reactions and general consensus already putting her as top girl for Touma and in general.
>>111173925
>but hardly anybody liked her NT10 scene, not even the most hardcore fans and shippers.
>Misaka telling the TouMAN how to live his life correctly.
Fuck you, that was great.
>>111174241
>the negative opinion was slightly more prominent than the positive
You mean shitposters and and a handful of vocal Othinusfags made their displeasures heard? I bet that's never happened before.
>Shipping? non-existant
You weren't even here for the NT10 threads, go away.
>>111174243
Her words didn't have any weight or impact because she was talking out of her ass. It was forced as hell, no matter how hard Kamachi tries to state otherwisde.
>>111174243
Fuck no. It would have worked if he hadn't dealt with it in the previous novel, but he had to conveniently regress at theexact same moment they fought, and she generally just beat the shit out of his defenseless as while telling him stuff he knew.
I can't remember if I watched both or not. Which one was all about the science center conspiracy or whatever and accelerator being evil? If that was railgun then I've seen both. I think I need to rewatch everything at this point. I hate how I forget things so easily.
>>111174503
What's the point of rewatching Railgun? Especially the second half of S2.
>>111174360
>You weren't even here for the NT10 threads, go away.
Bitch please. I'm lurking in Raildex threads all the time.
Shippers and fans used to post regularly when the scene in question wasn't still translated, pretty excited to have a scene like that, based on the illustration. Hell, I was probably one of the most excited fans awaiting for the translation (not shipper), but once it was translated, they disappeared. And no, reverse trolls creating "Mikoto won the Toumab wol" threads to stir up shit don't count.
>>111158092
>want Misaka to get screentime
Said no one ever
>>111174601
Because it's been so long and I don't remember anything about it.
>>111174360
>You weren't even here for the NT10 threads, go away.
Dunno about him, but the closest I saw to shipping was about the torture hug.
I believe some people tried to reason that the reverse Touma speech got her in a closer postition to all the other girls, but it never really got off ground, mostly for The Will and Othinus' performances absolutely overshadowing her.
Mikoto should just give up on her delusions of ever getting wtih Touma and just fuck Kuroko instead.
>>111174641
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>111174757
>>>/tumblr/
>>111174198
I'd like to see her have her own time without being forced into Touma all the time.
I think she had enough of it in Index already. What she has been trying to accomplish since volume 16 Will-tan and Othinus did it in just a single one and much better than she could hope to do.
It's time to realize that her place in the story isn't to follow Touma and try to form a special relationship with him, and more time trying to fix this isn't going to make it any better for her. It's clear that her the goal of her role in the series can be done much better by girls that are in better position and don't need +30 novels of poorly done build up to perform it.
More based Laura when?
>>111175164
But anon, a series like Raildex with so many girls needs at least one consistent "main love interest" for the MC. Also fucking Miki will never allow her to be written out.
>>111174698
>I believe some people tried to reason that the reverse Touma speech got her in a closer postition to all the other girls
No one did this. The most positive thing I can find about the scene is that people thought it was that Touma needed to hear the opinion of one of the directly affected characters by the Omega world, such as Mikoto. In fact, most noticed that she might start to get over her crush.
>>111173006
I can guarantee that this desire is systematically destroyed as you read further in the series.
>>111174424
No her message was different. She was telling the touman that he shouldn't feel bad about it. Will-tan convinced him that he was worth not dying, and Mikoto told him that he shouldn't feel bad for choosing it.
>>111175368
>a series like Raildex with so many girls needs at least one consistent "main love interest" for the MC. Also fucking Miki will never allow her to be written out.
Kamachi doesn't have to write her out to make a story where she is relevant and Touma isn't involved. I'm not even asking for her to be a main character just one storyline in Index where she participates and does shit without Touma being related.
>>111175618
>Return to England arc
>Mikoto tags along, loses Touman on the way
>she wanders around and bumps into Laura
>Laura knows who she is and invites her to Church for tea
>They end up talking about Touman and Mikoto talks about how "that baka" always leaves her behind
>Laura leans forward
>"He doesn't love you"
>>111175919
Why does she have to be in Index?
>>111176061
Just an Index story where Touma isn't related and she is. I'd like to see it.
>>111175919
>>111176196
>just one storyline in Index where she participates and does shit without Touma being related
But things are too dangerous in Raildex now, anon. Everyone's 2strong. For her to do something significant by herself, it'll have to be very mundane or VERY dangerous, and with the latter she'll need other people helping (cue Touman anyway).
The only thing I can think of is her interacting more with the clones and doing something with a group of them.
Miki: Once again, I'm sorry about no Season 3
>>111173925
>but hardly anybody liked her NT10 scene, not even the most hardcore fans and shippers.
I can understand. There are times where you can do nothing but accept defeat and shut up, or else you'll end up being laughed at. You can like the chapter, but the gaping flaws in the whole fight and speech are notorious, and not even the most delusional fan would have tried to defend it. I can imagine one trying to do this and being shamed by everyone comparing it to the undoubtedly superior scenes with Othinus or the Will. The most wise choice was to simply accept defeat to fans of these girls.
>>111174360
>You mean shitposters and and a handful of vocal Othinusfags made their displeasures heard? I bet that's never happened before.
Othinusfags had the best time reading this novel. No other girl even challenged her place, she had the best and most sweet moments with Touma. There was nothing to whine about for them until the finale.
>>111176945
>this entire post
>>111176945
I defended it.
Also >>111177005
>>111177005
>mfw you can't handle the banter
>>111177239
>I defended it.
How? Personal opinions aside, every point made critizicing the plentiful flaws, contrivances and problems the chapter had is valid. No one has bothered to debate them, this thread being a fine example. You can't deny the quality of it is inferior compared to NT9 and the rest of NT10.
>>111176030
I'd pay to see someone telling that to her. Anyone.
>>111177431
By saying that while Will-tan convinced Touma to continue living, to fight to keep the world he made, he accepted begrudgingly convinced he was doing a selfish thing.
Mikoto told him he was living his life incorrectly and made him realize that he shouldn't feel bad about what he chose, and he wasn't being selfish.
While it isn't a mind shattering character development, It wasn't pointless or a rehash of what will-tan said.
>>111178685
Point taken. What bugs me the most is how Touma suddenly started to angst and feel guilty about the Omega world, when just a couple of chapters before he thought the same thing Mikoto told him.
>>111173925
This sums up how I feel about her as well.
>>111179109
Touma might've felt better about it at first because his actions weren't useless, but he still could have had guilt about it that he didn't voice till later. Or the writing is inconsistent and I'm giving Kamachi too much credit.
>>111158092
>>111182565
dem biribiri delusions
Is there a more forced and one-sided "pairing" than Touma and Misaka?
>>111182650
KurokoxMisaka?
>>111158092
Raildex
>>111182650
>>111182650
>more forced and one-sided
Every other pairing.
>>111173925
This.
Before reading that scene I was hoping for Mikoto showing the best side of her.
After reading it, I started to wonder if Kamachi did it on purpose to finally sink this ship, it was so horrible.
In NT Mikoto is less and less relevant, having nothing to do with the event besides >muh baka, yet she still continues to appear. She should have one or two volumes focused no her, where she has a legitimate reason to appear, with events related to Mikoto. Right now all she does is stalking Touma. She has no other purpose, she doesn't start any plot lines, she doesn't have any story revolving around her. You could replace her with Stiyl, some no-name decent magician or any random mid-tier character and almost nothing in NT would change beside the skillset of the sidekick. Well, except for that one scene in NT10, but it was already ruined.
Just give her a real goddamn purpose or have her stay home like Index.
>>111183554
Imagine getting ORAORAORAORAORA'd with those.
>>111183276
>You could replace every character with Stiyl, some no-name decent magician or any random mid-tier character and almost nothing in NT would change beside the skillset of the sidekick.
Fixed.
>She should have one or two volumes focused no her, where she has a legitimate reason to appear, with events related to Mikoto.
>mfw random fagot on 4chan tells Kamachi what he supposed to do.
>>111183747
Do people really want an Index LN volume to focus solely on Mikoto? Really?
She has her own fucking series.
>>111183747
Yeah, because replacing Othinus, Birdway, Ollerus, Thor or El Presidente with Stiyl wouldn't change absolutely anything.
Even the car sex joke would stay intact.
>mfw random fagot on 4chan tells Kamachi what he supposed to do
How can you even survive on /a/?
>>111184006
Even dakimakura can replace Othinus in NT10.
>>111184006
gay carsex would be pretty cramped
>>111158092
>watch Index
>want Accelerator to get more screentime
>watch Railgun
>want Accelerator to get more screentime
What is this?
>>111184006
>Birdway in NT10
>MUH LANCE!! SO POWERFUL!
>>111184153
>Alliance launches the magical bombardment at Magic God
>Touma blocks it
>dust goes down
>he's standing in the middle of a devastated land and franticly holds Othinus daki
>>111176030
She knows.
If they go with an AC novel next, who do you want to see as the main characters?
I hate to call it science side at this point.
>>111184607
Touma and Misaki
>>111184607
Touma and Misaka
>>111184607
It focuses on the true main villain of the seriesMaybe that little whore Saten as well
>>111184607
Any combination of Touma, Gunha, Accel, Misaki. Plus Leivinia and Othinus as the magic side guests. Or Thor. Or Fiamma. He needs more love.
>>111184713
Marker eyebrow Saten would make a far more interesting villain.
>>111158092
It's that ying yang chink shit, too much ying you want a little yang, and vice versa GET ON THEIR LEVEL
>>111158092
MC syndrome of a shounen anime
MCs are crap in those
>>111184788
What does the P on her hat stand for?
>>111184844
Hell if I know. I need to rewatch that railgun episode to check.
>>111184607
I'd like to see Gunha in some form. More Item and Hamazura would be neat. Expanding on Misaki and Touma's relationship might be nice, but she's featured in the Railgun manga now, so I doubt that will happen.
And then there's always Accelerator and Aiwass.
>>111184801
Are you just mad because Touma got drunk and slapped your Waifu's ass
>>111184844
Penis?
>>111184872
Nothing specific apparently.
>>111184946
You make Saten sad. Hijacking a sister to spread lies and slander? How low can you go?
>>111184912
Touma is the worst part of Index though. I will like it more if he wasn't the MC of it.
>>111185035
You've only seen the anime haven't you?
I wonder how they'll handle the power creep now. Espers are all shit tier, other than Accelerator, compared to magic side now.
>>111182624
The best
>>111185094
Maybe Gunha will amount to something, simply based off of what Ollerus said, but I doubt he ever ascends to anything other than occasional comedy relief.
>>111171833
Probably me in the pits of despair about ever getting a season 3, but this looks pretty official even though I know deep down for it to be fake.
Really though, is there ANY chance at a S3? I thought this was really popular but I'm always reminded that a lot of anime never get 3rd seasons.
>>111185372
It is official, it came with the Puzzdex stream, incidentally when they made a poll as to which character people want to see next, Othinus won, so prepare yourself for JC Staff Othinus
>>111185504
>Othinus won
Japs actually have taste for once.
>>111183554
where can i read the rest of this?
>watch Index
>want more Kuroku
>watch Railgun
>want more Kuroko
It never ends.
>>111169111
It's not that weird. It's not that much of a stretch to think that a sufficiently skilled electromaster could electrically charge up a Frankenstein as long as the brain was still there.
>>111185575
The top 4 were:
Winner: Othinus
2nd: Misaka Worst
3rd: Birdway
4th: Fiamma
So yeah, their tastes were surprisingly good, though I'm not too sure if they'll be willing to put Othinus in, due to how far into the series she is, Fiamma at least is the main boss of the hypothetical Season 3, and 4, Worst is a Misaka, and Birdway is a cute loli, and would show up in English Civil War, and if they animate it, SP
>>111171672
Every other day, Touma meets someone who's suffered unimaginably, tells them to man the fuck up and punches them in the face.
He totally did get a taste of his own medicine.
>>111185746
Those people were generally trying to commit mass murder though, and involved innocents on their shit, so those punches were well deserved
>>111185740
What was the whole list they can pick?
I can't imagine that they could pick from everyone and get that list.
I honestly have no idea who is even in puzzledex, never really looked into it.
>>111185786
Touma murdered like, a million unknowing and smiling people in NT9. He got what was coming to him.
>>111185835
He didn't kill anyone.
>>111185871
No matter how many excuses you make, that fact does not change. A decision that I make would kill every last one of them!! There’s…there’s nothing I can do. What good is it to take away this world without crime, debt, or broken hearts!? Even if I defeated Othinus, returned everything to normal, and justly slaughtered everyone who shouldn’t be alive, would I really return to the world I picture in my head?
>>111185835
And he brought back millions of people who were overwritten by those smilebots
>>111185895
They were never asked if they wanted that world, if they'd willingly let a kid who gave his everything to help those who were suffering, kill himself just so that they could keep those people who had already died
>>111171860
Her interactions with Hamazura is the sole reason I'm still reading this shitfest.
Why do writers insist on making perfect pandering girls instead of actually believable people with flaws ?
>>111185895
That's a shitty moral dilemma to shove on anyone and I think most people would react the same way, but in reality Touma didn't kill anyone.
>>111171672
>He mocked her a little bit. So she literally hit him over and over while he wasn't defending himself, proceeded to act like she knew better than he did when in reality she couldn't even begin to grasp the level of suffering Touma went through, then electrocuted him.
It would be dumb to say that Touma didn't suffer in NT 9, because he did in spades, but at the end of the day, I feel like it's weird to say that Touma's suffering was so infinitely deep that it means that Misaka is a shallow asshat for even trying to relate to her.
And this is because Touma has never "truly suffered" in the way that people suffer the most namely, having their friends killed in front of him. It's probable that he had to watch all of his friends die thousands of times in terrible ways during Othinus's Wild Ride, but at the end of the day, all of them lived. Even Othinus, in the drama-kill of the century. And that's something that's simply not true for a lot of Indexverse characters.
>>111186063
What the fuck are you even on about?
>>111185575
Against a clone. She can't best Mikoto. Least of all as a fairy pet.
>>111186147
but WORST > Mikoto
>>111186147
Are you saying that Japan would have had shit taste if Mikoto was a choice?
>>111186165
WORST is a one trick pony and also taken
>>111186165
Clearly not. Another year. Another easy win for the Railgun.
>>111186183
Yes. They would just vote as much as they could for the best girl. It is their nature.
>>111186186
WORST would detonate all her metal implants ten times over before admitting anything for Accelerator
>>111186235
neat either way
>>111186235
and Accel would make some bullshit hax to save her. This will make both of us hard as diamonds, Anon.
>>111186276
Now I'm imagining some god-awful romance story where after Accelerator saves WORST from self-destruction for the tenth time, he looks into her eyes and swears that no matter what happens he'll never let her die, and WORST finally melts into his arms.
0/10 character ruined do not want
>>111185094
scince side is really lacking strong characters now.
>Crowley (who is a fucking magician)
>Aiwass
>Accelerator
>Kazakiri
big gap
>Kakine
another gap
>Mikoto
>Mugino
Wildcards
>Gunha
>Kiharas
The rest are functionally irrelevant. Mikoto and Mugino are barely relevant power wise.
>>111186408
Misaki is also a wild card.
Academy City's reached the point where you can pretty much stack up "the rest of Academy City" as one unit and throw it in the same tier as Kakine is now.
>>111186408
There should also be a massive unsurpassable wall separating Crowley, and probably Aiwass too, from Accelerator and Kazakiri, what with Crowley being confident he could take down a group of Magic Gods, while just one of such beings could easily just destroy everyone, and everything with a wave of her hands
>>111186408
Well, it's not that unbalanced, since all magic side top powerhouses rekt each other pretty hard.
Othinus is a fairy now.
Ollerus completely devastated, probably weaker than saints.
Fiamma dropped whole power tier down.
Based Pope nowhere to be seen.
Izzard had a meeting with a Dragon.
Pendex doesn't really count, since she can't use her power at will.
Double Jesus barely normal now.
GREMLIN destroyed.
Curtana Original destroyed.
Right now the strongest magicians (Aleister and sekrit club aside) are probably Thor and Fiamma, maybe Laura.
>>111186753
>There should also be a massive unsurpassable wall separating Crowley, and probably Aiwass too, from Accelerator and Kazakiri
Yeah, you're right. I just kind of slapped that together without much thought.
>>111186658
>Misaki is also a wild card.
Good point, I forgot about her since she has no combat ability.
I just wonder what they can do for a "science side" novel. There aren't that many relevant players anymore.
I think the series is just going to be mixed science/magic "wars" until the end.
There's going to be a lot more characters introduced because of the power creep, which is a shame.
Too many fucking series end up like this.
>>111186974
I'm pretty sure the next round of new powerful bullshit characters will be the last.
>>111186828
I really think if that you think of Index all the way through as a bipolar world you're doing it wrong. Other than "science" and "magic" (and "miracle", thanks Endymion) the fourth faction is just "people". Will-tan, Tabigake, Seria, Oyafune, the Pope, the President, none of these people have any true ability whatsoever. And even so, Kamachi has been dropping pretty heavy hints that these people might just be able to change the world.
Who KamiKuro here?
>See picture of Ikki
>It's a raildex thread
I'm so confused
Do you think we'll get any Hat doujinshi in August?
>>111165213
How can you say that she's always credibly involved in the plot when she still don't fucking believe that magic exist after around 30 volumes ?
>>111187577
When you can do magical bullshit with "science" it's not hard to believe that other magical bullshit is also science.
Although I'm pretty sure she got over the "magic doesn't exist" thing a while ago.
>>111186327
no, first she becomes tsundere for him. uses her powers pointlessly and otherwise challenges him before the tsun faded with acceptance
>>111187626
I'll mailbomb Kamachi if WORST becomes a textbook tsundere, that would basically be the worst shit ever. Even having her go straight up dere for the Accelerator would be better.
>>111187659
search your feelings. you know it to be true. she'll troll to express her love, be called out on the changes and get embarrassed. probably see him naked (or he sees her) and biri biri. it is a thing that would happen if any ideas of pairing them off crossed his mind
What's project 07 about?
>>111187773
If you are a flaming Misakafag who hates money and likes soccer, you can buy a Misaka jersey.
>>111187773
fugg just announce s3 already
>>111187622
Misaka's whole "what's this magic shit" attitude that she has for a lot of Index proper makes a lot less sense now that she's seen a dozen dragons fly out of Touma's arm and eat her death ball.
>>111187914
If announcement ten isn't S3 there will be blood in the streets.
>>111187925
Come to think of it, Daihaseisai 2.0 in general was one big middle-finger from Kamachi to people who thought they could get away with following Railgun without reading or watching Index.
>>111187925
She wasn't able to see the dragons did she? Only GUTS did.
>>111187800
I'll take two. You can have the other my dear, poor tsundere friend.
>>111187914
of what? Railgun?
>>111187914
>>111187971
>S3 announced
>it's Railgun
>it's two cour
>both are SoL fillers
>directed by Nagai Tatsuyuki
>last episode ends with "Thanks for watching!"
>30k sales
>>111188097
That would be fine too, i'm too desperate.
>tfw I read NT9 while depressed
>>111188138
At least there be figurines and merchandise after to look forward to.
>>111188043
They're fucking huge and are as big as several buildings but I guess Mikoto might not be able to see what's on the other side of her black ball.
>>111188138
Honestly, I would be happy with an S3 that was just Saten having fun with her school friends as long as it was canon and not totally shit.
I almost always prefer a new story to the retelling of an old story.
>>111188150
>pure filler season
and now?
>>111188218
have any mind altered espers perceived it? Gunha is a gemstone. maybe the simply cannot see it, but the ball blocking her view makes sense
>>111188218
>S3 that was just Saten having fun with her school friends as long as it was canon and not totally shit.
>Implying that's possible
An episode sure, but a whole season? No fucking way, not even Jean Shop Owner, and Xochitl cameo episodes could save that shit
What raildex doujinshi would you like to see?
>>111188347
Misaka Round Table
>>111188408 meant for >>111188380
>>111188380
A massive orgy including EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER (all Misakas)
Next volume in august?
>>111188501
September more likely.
>>111188380
Anything but Mikoto. I don't really mind Misaka doujinshi, but there are more of those than Railgun manga chapters, while other characters (sans Misaki) have only one or two at best.
Some Othinus, Itsuwa, Fukiyose, Himegami, Birdway, WORST or Laura ones would be great. But not exactly the same crap over and over again.
I'd even take some weird shit like Aleister doujinshi over next copy-pasted vanilla kamikoto.
>>111187271
>>111188837
Damn it.
>>111188380
Some delicious vanilla kamikoto doujins.
>>111188579
October.
>>111188185
>>111184237
Good taste.
>>111189323
You know she wants to, she just hasn't figured out how to say it yet.
>>111189585
she can start with protecting his smile for once
>>111189618
Like she already did?
>>111189658
>>111189705
smile status = Protected
>>111189585
Needs more cute Fairies.
>best family not animated
>>111189705
This makes the Kuroko desperate.
>>111189705
When will the suffering end for Touma?
>>111190250
When he dies.
If Biri really loved him she'd kill him to release him from the eternal suffering that is his life.
>>111190281
b-but doesn't he deserve happiness?
>>111159998
>Lack of development
That's an indictment against the entire cast, when you consider she has the most development of anyone outside of Touma and Accel.
>>111162814
Touma would have died in all those situations without Mikoto to back him up. She's one of the most intelligent characters in the franchise. Who gives a fuck if she's actually staying in character by not giving a shit about hocus pocus? She's no-nonsense and to the point. Tell her what needs to be done and she'll do it without complaints. Lose your way and she'll knock you back on track. Touma should be so lucky to have a reliable friend like her at his beck and call.
>>111190392
He's too selfless.
>>111190762
>s-stop risking you life for no reason, you b-baka!
>>111188982
November.
>>111173925
I loved the chapter with Mikoto in NT10. Touma was basically struggling with the same shit Mikoto went through back during the Sisters arc. Thinking they were responsible for robbing everyone else of a perfect world. She needed to be the one to break his illusions. She's a great character, and it's not her fault Kamachi stumbles with the narrative.
>>111175164
Spoken like someone who self inserts as Touma and doesn't want her to win cause opinions. Fuck off.
>>111191094
December.
>>111191165
January.
>>111190750
>Touma would have died in all those situations without Mikoto to back him up.
Touma is constantly saved by everybody.
>She's one of the most intelligent characters in the franchise.
She's the only one who took so long to grasp the way IB works, despite constantly attacking Touma. She attacked Accelerator while knowing his powers and cannot into magic that was acknowledged even by goddamn Shiage. Shiage, for the fuck's sake.
Being book-smart does not always equal being life-smart.
>Who gives a fuck if she's actually staying in character by not giving a shit about hocus pocus?
She can't understand what's happening and what kind of unbelievable shit her crush is involved with. Actually Mikoto learning basics of magic side would be better for Mikotofags, because she could become a real player in the game, not just a person who blindly follows Touma.
>She's no-nonsense and to the point.
Especially when it comes to her love, right?
>Tell her what needs to be done and she'll do it without complaints.
It would be better if she knew WHY it is needed to be done, though.
>Lose your way and she'll knock you back on track.
By screaming, beating and zapping half-dead person that doesn't even defend himself and clearly said that doesn't want to punch her?
>Touma should be so lucky to have a reliable friend like her at his beck and call.
More like stalker at this point. Her usefulness was purely accidental up till now, and without understanding the situation she can easily die or fuck the things up at any time.
>>111191551
>By screaming, beating and zapping half-dead person that doesn't even defend himself and clearly said that doesn't want to punch her?
He dead a million times and was raped by 60 niggers. It's ok.
>>111189861
I would quite happily watch an SOL series about Accel's daily live with LO and Worst
>>111191711
Why didn't she rape him instead of electrocuting?
>>111191925
Because then she'd still end up electrocuting him.
>>111192879
She wants it. She wants it bad.
>wondering when she'll toss another bench acrossa river
Because you have shit taste and ship godawful Kamikoto
>>111195033
I can't wait until this pairing is killed violently so maybe Mikoto can actually be a character
>>111158092
It's called good taste.
>>111195194
More like shit taste. It's a shit pairing that's bringing down the story as a whole when the characters would be better off as allys
I can't wait for the shipper illusions be universally destroyed when Touma dies without even a tiny bit of romantic development
>>111195253
How on earth is that anything to do with shipping? They are good characters, I want to see them more.
>>111195479
Beacuse everyone ships them and they have this one sided romance tease that's complete shit? They have awful chemistry together. Seeing them more separately or at least doing things that don't go back to Mikoto's one sided crush on him would be great
>>111195751
The fuck is this? This makes even less sense than Kuroko/Touma
>>111185740
>Fiamma that far up
Impressive, specially considering his appearances have been minimal in NT and he doesn't have the waifu factor like the other three
