Why is /a/ so butthurt about MT going down? You know there are torrent sites like bakabt that can easily replace it, right? Just download Deluge and start torrenting
>>108686563
No one cares about it going down since some anon bought the data, it's the information that was hacked that made everyone go bonkers.
>>108686619
Before that, there were tons of people trying to download the whole library. Where did said data go?
Scanlations are disappearing from the internet anyway
Daily reminder that Daiz killed MT and stole the donation.
direct downloads have higher quality than manga streaming sites run by sleazy admins whose main priority is maximizing their ad revenue from Google
for manga you don't care about, like Bleach, using pandamanga site is fine. But you wouldn't use a shitty streaming site that resizes and resamples and degrades visual quality down on a manga like Berserk or Blame! or what have you, would you?
>>108686941
MangaTraders has neither of those because muh licensing.
It bothers me because it was my go-to place for downloading releases from groups that only post on reader sites/irc.
>>108686563
>You know there are torrent sites like bakabt that can easily replace it, right? Just download Deluge and start torrenting
If you only read completed manga, sure. Also Deluge is a shit client.
MT did a great job at hosting loads of manga that isn't actually available in other places, for instance when a scanlator's site no longer exists or when their files are fucked for some reason. Their volume batches are also nice sometimes.
MT is valuable tool in the toolbox.
>>108686977
Oh yea? what do you use?
>>108687108
Kazaa.
>>108686563
Good luck finding seeders for old or unpopular stuff.
>>108686563
Speaking of Deluge, how come this client can't read letters other than the standard alphabet? I can't download anything japanese nor I can't download Love Live shits because theres a letter "µ" in the filename.
>>108687185
When that happens I just save the torrent file and open it manually, then it works.
>>108687108
After new versions of uTorrent turned to shit, I tried both Deluge and Transmission for a couple months each, but they both suck so in the end I just went back to uTorrent 2.2.1
Is there anything wrong with qBit?
>>108687461
No.
>>108686977
XDCC is fine but some don't have it.
It grips my asshole who some people only upload to readersites. MT was indeed useful in those situations, even if you had to wait a while.
>>108687461
if you support entropy, yes.
>>108687461
I would change to it, if I could import my torrents from utorrent through resume.dat. Real shame it can't.
>>108687162
And good luck finding torrents for stuff that wasn't even finished scanlating.
I could count on the fingers of my hands the number of times I've been on MangaTraders, but I was grateful for its existence every time I went there. It's quite sad, it was a place where I knew they had what I was looking for.
>>108686619
I hope that's true. I hope someone backed everything up. And I hope that said someone creates an FTP server.
Bakabt doesn't have much that's newer/unfinished.
Mangatraders was always great for series with shitty secret club scanlators who only give download links to their livejournal friends too.
>>108686758
Where are they going to? Hyperinternet?
>>108686715
>>108687763
You've missed a 600-post thread by few minutes. People are still downloading their archive. Current plan is to make torrents.
>>108687998
ded
rip
>>108687763
23 hours of progress.
543GB already downloaded.
1.2TB more to go.
And there are a couple others also working to archive their own full copy.
It'll take days to save all this manga but we're getting it done.
>>108687998
gensokyo
>>108688020
Its 1.6TB of data right?
>>108688020
>>108688053
Sweet.
>>108687998
>>108686977
BakaBT has uncompleted manga available like One Piece and Berserk, they update when entire volumes are completed.
>>108688150
>entire volume
No, they update whenever an "arc" finishes, and their definition is a bit loose.
Shorter series don't get partial releases at all.
>>108688150
Only unfinished series over ten volumes long get on bakabt
Fuck Horriblesubs.
>>108688202
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
>>108688217
>>108688194
I like to read an entire manga at the same time and not wait for releases so it doesn't bother me that much, I can see how you guys wouldn't care for it though.
>>108688150
>One Piece
>>108686619
He didn't buy the data. The bitcoins were given before the hacking and were a donation to pay for the server costs since the paypal donations were lost.
>>108688247
You need to be more specific.
Fuck Matt, BotoX, and snowfag.
>>108688357
>Doesn't realize that it is still a manga and therefore still counts for this discussion, and the fact that is enjoyable or not has no bearing on that fact.
>>108688539
>streaming
>>108688457
Nah, check the latest threads, that's how it played out for blue.
>>108688499
HS in general and those dudes in particular
>>108688053
What are you doing? Just making a few massive torrents?
>>108688561
I was in #tradersnetwork at the time.
~$900 was the lost paypal donations.
$900 was for the upcoming payment on the 14th.
A lot of silliness and drama ensued because of someone from /pol/ trolling the channel.
In the end, Blue agreed to let Wilik (Aftershock) keep the full amount. Not like he had much choice though.
Some time later, an hour or two I believe, Blue asked for access so that he could download his own copy as well, since Sakisan was already given access.
If you want to see that as paying for the content, ok.
>>108688576
But why? What did they have to do with any of this?
>>108688598
>>108688897
what part of "in general" confuses you?
>>108688899
>japanese terebi
>truth
>>108688849
>[19:00:27] <@Wilik> i'll just give bluethings his money back and kill my servers
>>108688897
They're the ones who posted the MT user list. Because they're /b/ level idiots.
>>108688897
They did the hacking, distribution, and cracking of the database info.
>>108688960
Yes, as I stated that was part of the drama. Wilik was trolling the /pol/ troll and everyone else at that time. That's what he later claimed anyway. If you want me to paste logs I can, but there's no real point to do so.
I hope at least you are being a well-intentioned buy misinformed rather than a troll.
>>108688960
You're delusional if you think One Piece readers are automatically underage.
Not even the guy you are arguing with.
You also need to lurk more if you don't know that a good part of /a/ are One Piece fans, and I'm not talking about new people.
>>108689051
buy=but
>>108688561
>>108688457
>>108688849
>>108688960
I really don't know why this is still such a glowing point of curiosity. I spoke to Wilik, we discussed a few things, came to an understanding of what will be done, and he'll use the money for what we spoke about. But let's please not dwell on something so unimportant. What matters is that the manga is going to be saved and distributed.
>>108688807
Me specifically, I really don't know. There are definitely going to be torrents, for the most part I'm just going to go along with assisting the primary seeding that they do with it. But as for what I'm going to be doing on my own... I have yet to finalize.
>>108688020
any download links?
I was busy changing all my passwords and couldn't stay for the whole thread to develop.
>>108689116
How much did the bitcoins cost you?
>>108689116
Blue-san, any information where all the mangos are right now?
I need to download To Love Ru darkness colored.
>>108689302
You could download them from whoever did them originally.
>>108688280
sorry, I developed this habit in battlefield 4
>>108688960
>Someone's proving me wrong?
>LIES
>LIAR
>UNTRUTH
>IM ALWAYS RIGHT
>>>/global/rules/2
so is MT going to fix its security and come back online at any point? Or is it just waiting for woxxy to offer up something to replace it?
>>108689350
But the cxc site is shit right now.
>>108689502
It's dead and more than likely not coming back.
>>108689290
I don't know. I've been in this thing since they were $4 a coin. I'm nowhere close to the red, I can tell you that.
>>108689302
>>108689302
welp, To Love Ru Darkness 44 is just out.
Time to fap.
I knew this shitty site woud get fucked
About a day or two before it was hacked I saw that they had $2000 in bitcoin donations. That's like waving a lottery ticket out your window in a ghetto neighbourhood
Fucking retards
>MD5 with no salt
They were asking to be hacked.
>>108690141
This wasn't discovered until after the hacking occurred.
That's just as silly as saying, "She was asking to be raped. Underneath her bulky artic wear parka and thick insulated leggings and several layers of clothing, she was wearing a thong."
>>108690269
Well, that is asking to be raped.
>>108690447
Is there a video or webm for this?
I think I saw it before but I wanna see the start
Meanwhile on IRC, Daiz is plotting and succeeding to convince everyone to be under his command and for everyone to follow of his rules.
>>108690269
Most women are though.
>>108690269
>Underneath her bulky artic wear parka and thick insulated leggings and several layers of clothing,
The site had zero security,
They were really asking for it.
>>108690112
It's more like waving an already cashed and banked lottery ticket out your window. The money wasn't even stolen.
>>108690682
>The site had zero security,
Another English word has lost its meaning.
RIP "zero".
>>108690722
>4chan
>speaking good english
Is this your first time here ?
>>108690759
Who are you quoting?
>>108690682
>They were really asking for it.
That's what matt said about those sheep too. Doesn't justify it.
>>108686563
bakabt is pretty good for what they have.
The problem is they exclude a huge amount of anime and manga.
>>108687565
Why not just rehash all your torrents? It's really not a big deal.
>>108688053
Oh god, gooooood.
>>108688995
They could have held it in their fucking pants until we finished downloading the manga. It risked the admins taking down the site forever and taking their data with them. Luckily we managed to negotiate and work something out, but it's no thanks to some fucking dumbasses that were antagonizing them on their IRC.
I stopped browsing the threads after they got the bitcoin donation system up
So you're telling me some guy donated the money to cover the costs of the servers, but they somehow got hacked, and they're fucked and just not going to go back online?
Jesus Christ, I stopped browsing because I thought this shit was done with. Why are people in general such stupid faggots? Why does stupid shit like this have to happen?
>>108691132
>Why are people in general such stupid faggots?
And also specifically these people:
>>108688499
>>108690722
No, it had really shit security.
The hack was done on an unsecured development portal that allowed editting the DB directly. It was accessible by just using the folder name for that tool. The hacker got access to the forums that way and somehow ended up with root access.
>>108686563
mangatraders was pretty reliable. people who read a lot of manga can appreciate that.
sunday-reader need not apply
>>108690447
>oh fuck wait
?
>>108691199
I blame the admin for being a incompetenthack.
>>108686563
>Deluge
I ain't using shit that hasn't had an update in one and a half fucking year.
>>108691274
HS pls.
>>108690855
It's not about justification. It's about danger prevention.
The great irony here is that /a/'s help fucked the site over harder than it was fucked over by PayPal.
MT may have been able to get enough bitcoin donations to pay running costs without /a/. After all, they've been working off donations in the pass as well.
But /a/ got involved. And they formed an archiving project. And a jackass in the archiving project decided to create himself an admin user through SQL injection. And then the jackass decided to post the entire DB to "help" the project. And then other jackass decided to scrape it for passwords.
>>108691433
You know what could have saved MT?
An admin who has read at least one online guide about server security.
>>108691556
This.
>>108691556
Are you trying to defend attacking a site for no good reason?
>>108691556
You know what could have saved MT?
If HS had gone and fucked themselves instead of everybody else.
>>108691613
See >>108691355.
Hacking attempts are going to happen on the internet. It's your fucking job as an admin to keep your pants up to protect your assshole.
Who is HS?
Sorry for being a ignorant.
>>108691712
Get out.
>>108691712
A bunch of "epic lulz" retards.
>>108691712
Horriblesubs & Horriblescans.
>>108691712
Lurk for at least a month before asking retarded questions like this.
>>108691613
Are you trying to defend incompetence?
This and that are two different things.
You can't manage a website with nearley 1m accounts and act like some high school kid.
>>108691712
Hadena subs
>>108688053
I love you /a/. No really, I'm not just saying that. You're literally the reason I don't kill myself.
>>108691712
Underwater
>>108691307
so are HS downloads gonna become less popular now or what
they were shit to begin with anyways
>>108691772
Thanks.
>>108691774
>I was able to and therefore I couldn't help myself
That's acting like a high school kid.
>>108691830
>Loving /a/
>not Blue
>>108691876
Oh you, thinking there are consequences for actions other than people being upset.
>>108691898
Responding is acting like a high school kid.
>>108691898
>I was able to but I was a lazy faggot so I didn't do shit
Sounds like high school to me.
You seem to be under the false impression that I'm defending the attacker.
>>108691243
>i never asked for this
Who is Blue-nii anyways? At first I thought he was a namefriend who rendered pics, then he's a bro with some dosh, and now he's saving manga. I am confus
>>108691988
You seem to be under the false impression that I'm defending MT, when in fact I'm just trying to complain about HS.
>>108692044
All of the above.
He goes by a different name on IRC as well.
>>108692087
>complaining about the single biggest contributor to the fansub scene
Hello CR dev.
>>108692087
> I'm just trying to complain about HS.
> I'm just trying to complain about high school.
Oh we know.
>>108692143
>HS
>fansub
Hello HS dev.
>>108691876
Most of those people don't read manga.
>>108692208
>he doesn't know that most groups use/edit their ripped CR scripts
>>108692279
That's some conclusion you're jumping to.
But no, damage control harder. It just proves you care what people say about you.
>>108691699
So what you're saying is that the admin is a slut?
>>108691919
After five shots I love pretty much everybody. If you could molest people through the internet your genitalia would not be safe from me anon.
>>108692360
That's true though.
Almost no one bothers to translate anything that is being "simulcasted". Most fan translations now are series that aren't. If you don't believe this, just look at fansub comparison sites that show the differences between the scripts.
>>108692360
>he thinks I'm really HS
Now you are just silly.
HS-leader loves to tripfag and shitpost and yes I know that the trip is shared.
>>108692044
He's always been a bro.
>>108692437
No shit.
What a fantastic thread this has become.
>>108689585
Truly your sacrifice shall be noted as immense when bitcoin goes to the moon and is worth a million per coin and you gave up $2.75 million.
>>108692517
It's what you get when a bunch of anons don't have anything to do with something big, no matter how hard they try.
>>108692517
>>108692593
>>108692625
These posts only make the thread worse.
So does mine.
Did that stop us from posting them? No.
Why should you expect any better from anyone else?
>>108692517
>expecting quality discussion on /a/
>expecting quality meta-discussion on /a/
Good one anon.
>>108692705
Some of the previous threads were alright. Mostly technical discussion and very few asinine arguments.
>>108692695
That's some Siztra-tier justification right there.
>>108692695
Why even ask?
You guys can go back and forth about whose fault it really is all day and you'll never reach a conclusion. There was shit on all sides and there's nothing that can be done about it. All we can do is recover what's most important.
>>108692044
Just another poster.
>>108692582
Money is worth nothing in the hands of those who don't use it on the things they deem valuable.
>>108692936
and thus the names of Blue/BlueThings/Nilix entered into the mythology of /a/.
Never again would this person be "Just another poster".
>>108686563
>Deluge
Heh.
Also, you won't find more obscure stuff on Bakabt.
>>108693128
[dick sucking intensifies]Let me join in
>>108689116
>What matters is that the manga is going to be saved and distributed.
I hope so... I really hope so, and thank you.
>>108694516
Actually, if you paid any attention to the context or had emotional intelligence highly than a rock, you would have noticed that's exactly what blue doesn't want to happen. Hence, that statement is more threatening than complimenting.
>>108692936
Blue guy, i don't know but i wanna say thank you.
>implying this guys isn't the true savior
>>108694928
That’s bullshit, the only people who don’t want to have their dick sucked are those who have vaginas, and sucking those doesn’t exactly hurt either.
>>108695075
>this guys
Just when I was going to download Change 123 this happened;_;
I liked MT because it had volumes compilations, made by kind people I guess.
>>108695141
>>108623509
>>108692936
>Money is worth nothing in the hands of those who don't use it on the things they deem valuable.
You are such a big-hearted man Blue.I should start stalking you again.
>>108695370
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=basic+english+grammar
How much data is entire MT archive anyways?
>>108695833
>not reading the thread
>>108695833
1.6 TB
>>108695918
That's less than I expected.
>>108696031
Manga takes very little space.
>>108695918
I need to get another 2TB drive now.
>>108696139
>>108696066
Less if you take out the yaoi and shoujo
>>108689585
That must be super interesting.
Thank you for your work, blue-san
so are they gone for good? or is it temporary?
>>108696587
For good.
>621GB down.
>>108695165
Oh yes, thank you for reminding me of this. I am seeing at least seven of the volumes among the ones I've already grabbed.
>>108696587
I hope you have your watch list saved in notepad, anon.
>>108696031
>>108696311
MT would have been far less bloated if anyone on the staff cared to make sure fujoshits weren't abusing MT to host their yaoi hentai crap despite MT's no hentai upload policy.
Seems the fujoshit cancer had infected MT just like they did to Batoto.
>>108695075
It's too late, why didn't you stop him
>>108696587
Dead
>>108687057
>MT did a great job
except for the resolution restrictions
>scanlators do a 2400p and 1200p release
>only 1200p ends up on MT
>it's incredibly difficult to scrape together high res version before it falls to bitrot
>>108698853
Releasing at any size above 2000px is stupid anyways.
>>108698948
Mangafox dev pls.
>>108698975
1600px is the perfect size for manga.
>>108698853
>tfw only the first 3 volumes of Blame! exist in non-shit resolution
>>108688100
>notwow
>>108698948
>>108699003
This will be even more of an issue with 4k screens.
>>108699003
Pretty much this.
Having more than 2000px is just a waste for most mangas.
>>108699436
I like having the option of zooming in on detail. You can easily downscale it to whatever size you prefer in your reader.
>>108699664
There isn't really anything in most manga that would warrant needing to zoom in to see certain details if it's released at 1600px.
>>108699782
Stop reading manga with shit art.
>>108699865
But I read Berserk.
>>108691772
I don't understand what Horriblesubs and Horriblescans have to do with MangaTraders? Anyone mind explaining?
>>108700032
HS devs are the ones who hacked and distributed the e-mail and passwords.
>>108700032
Some people think they are behind the hacking.
>>108700062
They pretty much confirmed it themselves.
>>108700062
>think
They openly announced it on their IRC, check the archives.
>>108699379
It won’t, we only need a reader software that does nnedi3 upscaling.
You're good people, Blue. We don't deserve you.
Just how massive will those torrent files be? The .torrent themselves. Files should amount to the thousands. Even if distributed over several torrents, they should be pretty big.
>>108700212
He's just one person, though.
>>108700524
I think .torrent size depends more on number of chunks than on number of contained files. With big enough chunks .torrent can be rather small.
>>108700212
>>108700422
You're all very welcome. I don't mind being thanked. I just don't want the thread to be about me. There are many other anons working harder than me at this with their fancy servers and knowledge of networking and tools and scripts. For a simple gathering of anons, sakisan's team is pretty amazing and it really speaks to the kind of diversity that browses /a/. They're doing the bulk of the work. I just throw money at things with reckless abandon, ask questions about the most basic things, and help out with what I can.
>>108700524
There will likely be multiple torrent files, most likely separated by alphabetical groups. In such a case, certain letters will have a lot more than others. Q for example, would be filled with Qualia the Purple and... I really don't know what else.
>>108701431
I think people are just amazed because you're the nicest person ever seen on 4chan.
never4get
;_;
>>108701798
Bring #lurk back
I believe in you, this can happen
>>108701431
Is it not possible to have direct downloads? Most people who tend to use manga download sites are usually looking for obscure unfinished series that'll probably hardly get any seeds.
>>108701431
Two somewhat related questions: where are you located and where are the MT servers located? Also, I imagine you have really fast internet connection.
>>108702040
That's out of my ability to answer for now. I'm not the one with the ability to host anything. The MT Admin confirmed that MangaTraders utilized 110 Terabytes of Download Bandwidth a month. Someone might be able to handle such a thing. Mind you, once this torrent goes out, people with such capabilities will want to get their hands on everything. So the faster our team can finish everything and get it all out, the sooner the rest of the internet can come out with their own solutions to this problem.
>>108702148
NYC, 50/25 Verizon FiOS. No clue about MT's server locations.
>689GB downloaded
>>108702324
>NYC
>I may or may not have seen Blue around
doushio
Everything that I love dies.
>>108702509
You will never have me Kawaii-sosu!
>>108702324
That's a nice upload speed. Here in Poortugal our service is really unbalanced. I have 100/8. Go figure.
>>108702509
Stop touching yourself at night.
>>108695075
>implying he's not a secret jew trying to corner the anime and manga industry like his bretheren
we were warned /a/ but we chose not to listen
>>108702324
Was Masamune still the head admin at MT? I remember he was the head of Hentaitraders back when that still existed.
How does one help with the downloading?
So wait was the $1800~ of donations really stolen?
So is Woxxy not saving manga?
So my email was on the list that was floating around which only had the encrypted passwords, but wasn't on the list with the decrypted ones. How safe am I?
>>108703142
They weren't encrypted, they were MD5 sums, they were the same as plaintext, if someone has the MD5 hash of your password they can instantly reverse it and use your password.
>>108703142
Change your fucking passwords
>>108703142
Safe unless you used the same password somewhere else because the site is dead now.
>>108703201
If it's the same password you use for any common site that uses email as your username then you should change that password.
>>108703201
Oh well. Good thing I changed my shit after heartbleed.
>>108699053
There are 'comic-book' scans/rips for the first 8. Just downloaded them.
>>108702861
It was someone going by the name of Aftershock.
>>108702959
You would have to ask sakisan.
>>108703074
No, the $1800 is safe in a coinbase account. The money wasn't in MT website.
>>108703308
Took me ages just to find links.
>>108700142
>archive
Sorry newfag here, may I ask where I can find this please?
>>108703142
Where's the txt file?
>>108703518
http://archive.foolz.us/a
Welcome to the library.
>>108703528
http://a.pomf.se/zpurvr.txt
http://a.pomf.se/pvsgli.txt
>>108703511
Mind sharing?
>>108703601
Easy modo, anon. Just search it as usual.
>>108703730
Just try it. Seriously. The last of these scans went up in 2011. They're all over the place. All the remotely relevant torrents are dead.
I only found these while I was searching for other manga.
>>108703601
Links should be somewhere in this thread:
http://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/000000000000000004343801/manga/36
>>108690502
>Meanwhile on IRC, Daiz is plotting and succeeding to convince everyone to be under his command and for everyone to follow of his rules.
He's the best systemizer /a/ and the community have.
>>108703872
>kaskus
What. I don't know kaskus are pirating and DDL-ing digital mango.
>>108703884
He's taking the love out of the community and replacing it with robots
>>108703970
He did that in the future too. Except with people.
>>108703970
>He's taking the pointless drama out of the community and replacing it with quality
fix'd
>>108703884
He was plotting a new cartel system for woxxymanga where groups get banned for having translator notes.
>>108703957
What is it? Seems to just be a large Indonesian community. Surprisingly active forums.
>>108704113Yeah it's just a large community. If I hadn't known 4chan before, I probably would have spent my time there. Anonymity is definitely superior, except when it's the case of shitposting.
>>108704097
I could see the point for that in some cases, but when the original joke makes no sense in english, often it's necessary.
If it's discrete that's fine, if it's informative and relevant all the better.
I'd agree with Daiz on "TL - lol, he fell down" type stuff.
>>108704044
>implying he hasn't been involved in his fair share of pointless drama
Daiz knows his shit, I'm more than fine with giving him more power.
>>108704305
He's cool when he's not acting like a 10 years old american.
>>108704293
*original dialogue
>>108704293
Those notes are cancer. Any time I see them I just want to slap the guy who typed it.
>>108686563
Except that's not true, MT had stuff that were only there, and /a/ is trying to make that torrent site which replace it.
>>108704304
Most of the time it wasn't him who started the shitstorms. If he does, he already made sure he wins beforehand.
>>108704374
I just edit them.
If it's a relevant note and impartial note about some cultural quirk, character idiom or original wordplay etc I leave it be.
>>108704712
*If it's a relevant and impartial note
Bedtime.
>>108704271
What amazes me is that their manga subforum is more active than all these western ones.
>>108686563
you're a fucking moron who never used MT, fuckoff and die.
kthxbai.
>>108704336
Nah, he acts like Finn, that how the Finns are and nothing wrong with that.
As always, big thanks to Blue, Woxxy, and sakisan. And the many other /a/nons helping out.
>>108704905I don't know.I only want to discuss manga with /a/, even though I have to use English to do that.Perhaps you can find many pirated links there.
>>108686563
Cause the leaders of Horriblesubs posted the emails and usernames of 1m people.
And that isn't very polite.
>>108706909
Oh wow.
>>108706909
>>108706944
Horriblesubs confirmed for 2006 era /b/tards.
>>108706909
>>108706944
The fuck?
>>108707426
"txt" speak and emoticons are not allowed outside of /b/ anon.
/a/'s Groups to Destroy List:
HS
Batoto
Anybody else? This faggots must be taught a lesson.
>>108707514
What did Batoto do? Besides arbitrarily deleting series?
>>108707514
CR? FUNi?
>>108707904
Sending fake C&D notices to their competition causing them all to get shut down.
>>108707514
Anyone who uses pointless watermarks, anyone who downscales pages, anyone who uses txt speak or emoticons to replace netoyo abbreviations and SJIScats, anyone who puts in TL notes that aren't informative, anyone who has lower standards for everything than SaHa really, CR, digital manga licensors who exist only to send C&D notices such as Jmanga and Digital Manga Guild, anyone who imposes their moral standards such as Batoto and groups that drop manga for being "too loli", anyone who miscategorizes things based on western standards instead of japanese sales, and the Jews.
>>108707514
Mangastream.
