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Previous Thread: >>25961463
Check out the catalog for a directory of fics from fellow writefags,
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PtN4D_9CSw8JJ9uO6v0oQqdtKEkS8aFAvfxqI96XfSE/edit?usp=sharing
>Can I post NSFW fics?
Absolutely! There are no rules against NSFW text links.
>How should I post my fics?
Please, for the convenience of everyone involved, link to a host like Fanfiction.net, Pastebin or Google Docs rather than dumping your fics in text posts. This not only keeps the thread tidy (and keeps you from getting an infraction for spam), but it also provides a more permanent place to store your work.
>Can I add a fic I wrote to the catalog?
Sure! Check the catalog for the submission link. In there, you can find a link to a Google Form - fill out all the necessary information and it will be submitted for review automatically. Technology is incredible!
We're also looking to collect ideas for fanfics as a resource for stumped writers. Feel free to throw an idea out there; someone may choose to use it themselves!
Ideabin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X072SSWulcC6RJRrPA6v9XtyohRybvMBl6Fh49wHsRw
Topic of the Thread: This one seems simple enough for both sides, what makes or breaks a fic for you when searching for something to read?
>>26048764
Previous fics:
An anon tries out writing a snippet using nothing more than pokemon cries as dialogue. SFW
http://pastebin.com/J6UAi41J
New Fledgling Chapter
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/33/Fledglings
Suwa makes a sequel to that kirla piece he did ages ago. NSFW
http://pastebin.com/G7svCKxM
Cge's Eternal Vernal Chapter 4. SFW
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6400045/chapters/15083233
Calem struggles with his feelings and his dick for what to do to Serena. NSFW http://pastebin.com/2CNnV9WE
An anon shares with us an odd dream transformation fic about a trainer's kirla and feebas. NSFW
http://pastebin.com/0cfU0rhi
>ToTT
I haven't read too terribly many fics yet, though I plan to do so once finals are over, but I'm usually drawn to SFW fics that seem to have interesting stories based on their summaries. Cute moments are often pleasant surprises, too. I would have to say that a few dissuading factors would be poorly handled NSFW elements and poorly handled dark themes; in the case of the latter, basically straying into edgy territory.
>>26048764
TOTT: I don't read much fanfiction at all anymore. I'll skim through snippets and sometimes read an entire work with the intent to critique, but otherwise I direct most of my fanfiction-related attention to improving my own work.
If I had to isolate the reasons that used to get me to close a tab instantly though: grammar, sentence structure, word choice for any and all nsfw elements were the big three. Kind of a pity to close a tab because the word "cock" showed up outside of a dialogue and roosters but oh well, I'm weird.
>>26048835
Wow, that short piece about Pikachu felt...awkward to read. That's probably why pokespeak doesn't translate well in writing.
I thought these threads died, glad to see they are still aorund
>>26050547
damn, probably not gonna use any pokedialog then
Thanks for the feedback, though.
(I was up late. Ignore the cranky old man who deleted /n and then went off on it.)
>"Pika softened up. Seemed like this Pikachu just wanted to have fun with a companion."
>Unfinished, I dunno how to end this in a way concise but descriptive
Add, "And so together they did till sunset called an end to their games."
>>26050547
>awkward to read
Pokemon name chanting is pure filler because it does not communicate anything. In the animation, it's a vessel for inflection and combines with gesture; in writing, it's packing peanuts.
CGE your interpretation of the Pokemon universe is completely deranged, but I respect you for your consistency.
>>26048835
>“Oh yeah. She’s hot and friendly, a real keeper. Did you rape her yet?”
>>26048835
Suwa's piece is SFW.
>>26051207
Consistent derangement?
>>26051605
Delphox knows his priorities
>>26050985
>Cranky old man
How old are you?
>>26052344
When you're young, the weekend is too far way.
When you're old, you wonder where the whole month went.
It sneaks up on you.
>>26052428
You're one to talk about pathos in previous posts.
So, people, in your setting, _why_ are they called Pokémon? Or are they called / do they call themselves something else?
See, "Pokémon" is abrvspk for "Pocket Monsters", which, if the etymology of the term is similar in-universe, more or less implies carrying them in pockets, miniaturizing them, or capturing them, in any combination of the above, is about as old as humans have had modern language. However at least M12 suggests the term is not the only denomination that has existed for Pokémon.
So... why? How?
(And then there's the whole Farla tangent of 'Pokémon' itself being capitalised as it is a brand name, etc etc. Unless translator microbes, etc etc.)
For a more tasty food for thought: would Pokémon as a collective care what humans call them? How does this work in a PMD-esque world?
>>26053087
this probably dives way too deep into langauge and linguistics than what I would normally care for. They could easily start as just monsters, with the invention of the pokeball making them portable shifting it into pocket monsters, accumulating to modernization of the word, simplifying it to Pokemon.
Fuck, I lost the entire response I typed out from a wayward press of my side mouse button.
The shorts of it: They are named as such because anything else is less-specific, too long-winded or both.
>>26053087
I, uh... huh. I don't really have a good answer for that. I'll file it away under "willing suspension of disbelief;" that's just what they're called, and everyone knows that. It doesn't seem very important to go into. >>26053131's explanation is probably good enough, if you need one, but it doesn't work for me because I write in a PMD setting.
Oh cool a new thread.
>>26053087
The better question to ask is why give the creatures the name of monster in the first place, considering their deep relationship with humans and the (apparent) lack of any other animal lurking in Pokemon's setting.
Under normal circumstances a monster title is given to a creature that exists outside of the 'norm' of nature, something out of the ordinary, maybe even as a warning. However, despite all the helpfulness a Pokemon can grant as well as them being the 'normal' animal in society, they're still technically labeled as monsters.
>>26053999
>>26053131
>Monster
>They could easily start as just monsters,
>a monster title is given to a creature that exists outside of the 'norm' of nature
Hmmm that is a good thing that I had never thought of. I guess in Japanese culture the term 'monster' (or rather, their Japanese for it) has nowhere near the negative connotations it has in Western culture, so that gives a better understanding of the OOU reasoning.
Still does nothing for the IU reasoning except for providing a potential indication that humans saw, at some point in the past, Pokémon as creatures unnatural to the world. Do we have any canon evidence to this end?
>>26053326
They are named as such because anything else is less-specific, too long-winded or both.
>less-specific
Hmmmm okay, makes sense and it's something interesting to work with but... With the implication of the "enough-specific" being what exactly, that a "Pokémon" is "a creature that can be captured in a Pokéball"? We don't know if they work on anime animals, plants or humans, though in the least we know they don't work with "donuts". Seems to fit quite well with how languages evolve (heh).
From this thread: >>26031620
>>26034863
>>26035213
>>26035259
>>26035357
Pretty good idea senpai
>>26055186
>>26035259
>>26035259
Remind him that letting an illusion break at the wrong moment could be fatal and require that he up his CON.
>>26055763
>CON
>not CHA
i dont think Constitution would help him talk his way out of suddenly becoming a fox, and in general, illusion-y magic is based on Charisma anyway
>>26056423
>suddenly becoming a fox
Did you not read the premise?
Think, McFly, think.
>>26055763
You just have to hope the opposing Pokemon changes their mind about the Aura Sphere they were charging up.
>>26048764
TotT: Quality of the grammar, spelling, and punctuation. I'd get by on that as long as it doesn't have Ashnime original story or be unfinished.
Also if it's a good lewd or not.
>>26053087
Do what the chinese bootleggers do. "Magical babies," "fairies," "monsters," "spirits," so on so forth.
>>26057961
>WELCOME! IT'S ELF'S WORLD
>>26057961
>chinese bootleggers
Aren't those the same ones who gave us "DO NOT WANT!"?
(Not judging negatively. Just judging.)
>>26053087
The origins of the term "Pokemon" as it relates to mainstream usage has a long and complicated history, and indeed while no longer considered useful in modern taxonomy the division of animals into "monsters" and "non-monsters" continues unabated among the public and media. The Trainer's Almanac loosely defines Pokemon as any form of animal which demonstrates the following traits:
-Can be captured and miniaturized on a molecular level through the use of Pokeballs
-Are capable of rapid regeneration through the use of various or man-made healing agents (Pokemon Centers, Oran Berries, Potions, etc)
-Can communicate directly (to varying degrees) with other Pokemon, regardless of species, through a form of universal translation that all Pokemon appear to be born with
While significant anthropological evidence regarding the usage of the term has been collected dating as far back as ancient Mesopotamia, the perspectives of Pokemon themselves is significantly less understood. Not only does human influence heavily bias the responses of trained and privately bred Pokemon, the question of whether Pokemon are even capable of conceptualizing the grouping of species into categories and subcategories is still under debate. What is known is that wild Pokemon in regions entirely cut off from civilization tend to treat humans indiscriminately from other potential predators and intruders on their territory. Attempts at communicating with wild Pokemon in these areas- a particularly difficult task, even when using trained Pokemon as an intermediary- indicate that they tend to view humans as an unusually behaved but otherwise nondescript bipedal creature not unlike a Hitmonchan or Throh.
Professor Elm of the Johto region perhaps summarized this issue best when he theorized that the vast majority of Pokemon view us humans as simply "another species" and do not distinguish us in any particular unique category- until we give them a reason to.
goddamnit
My cat jumped on the keyboard, and now I'm banned from the chat because his fat ass flooded the stream.
What can I do to get unbanned?
>>26058460
Find a better excuse for trolling the chat mate, then we might be able to help you out.
>>26058492
I wasn't trolling the chat. for fucks sake, I've NEVER trolled the chat. I go in there to ask for help with my writing.
My cat jumped on the keyboard, and flooded it with a shitload of /
I dont know what else to tell you
>>26053087
This is something I've wrestled with plenty myself. It really just doesn't fit at all with what these things should actually be referred to collectively. But what alternative is there..? It' so ingrained in everyone's minds that using any other term would just unimmerse the reader and seem forced or disngenuine (I think that's a word) if handled poorly. I'm sure if someone was skilled enough they could make it work, but it seems to be more work to pull off than it would be worth to change this.
>>26058220
You know while I don't fully agree with it given a slight reliance on Pokémon not being that much capable of abstraction, I think it is good enough a Watsonian perspective into it that, with some tweaks here and there, I'd like to adapt it for it to be quotable in my 'verse.
With curation and permission, of course.
If you're writing a fantasy story that's based on a world with pokemon, it would be completely unreasonable to expect the English language to have been invented and used there, yet you write the dialogue in English. That's the author translating from some gibberish fantasy language for the readers benefit. The word "pokemon" is not an exception.
>>26058742
Seems like a cop out but not one I'm above using for my own personal sake.
>>26058760
Writing dialogue in English is a complete cop out. Authors should be creating their own language and publishing a guide to using that language along with their work so that readers can get the full experience.
>>26058824
Agreed. Time to homebrew some shit based on Swahili crossed with Klingon
>>26058824
>>26058838
Making up snippets of language is really fucking fun.
Making up an entire language is hair-pulling frustration.
>>26058524
You've been unbanned.
>>26058863
thanks man, you're an awesome dude or dudette
>>26058838
>swahili
I still think, from a linguistic perspective, languages like !Xhosa and Bantu are far more interesting.Though I'm basing my conlang on Asiatic languages so I'm not gonna judge you, just pointing stuff out.
>>26058742
Use weird grammar and archaic phrasing to make it sound like the language isn't at all like English in its native form.
>>26058824
Going full Tolkien is only an option if you have the entire language notated out a priori.
>>26059196
There's always the option of using a real artificial language as a 'front' for the presence of a constructed in-universe language. I think there was a couple of movies that did that with Esperanto or some of its variants? One of them was a vampire movie, from before vampires sparkled, even.
I may as well ask here: does anyone know/is anyone here a decent author who's open for story commissions? I don't think what I have in mind would work as a request, and I'm also willing to pay 10 or 15 dollars to keep it out of the public's eye because I'm selfish.
>>26059407
That movie was about demons, actually, but the name escapes me. I was considering using Esperanto as a "bastard tongue" or spell language many times but quickly learned its grammar was not conducive.
>>26059441
I'm not publicly available for commissions, but I do like money. Why don't you hit me up at this temp email and I'll see if I can handle what you're after?
[email protected]Last time I tried this, it wound up being Bui after a paw fetish fic. Please don't be Bui after a paw fetish fic.
>>26059600
Thank you, I'll send you an email in a few minutes. And don't worry, serpents don't have paws.
>>26059619
>And don't worry, serpents don't have paws.
I like where this is going.
>>26059619
I don't mean to rush you or anything, but it's just that Ten Minute Mails can be kind of finnicky; if you've sent something, I haven't received it yet. If we get a deal worked out, I'll make a more permanent address so we don't have these problems in the future.
>>26059844
Sorry for the long wait, but I just sent it. I'm not too great at elucidating my ideas, which is why I'm willing to pay someone else to do it for me.
>>26059934
Those things are so fucking cute god damn.
>>26058460
why do cats love sitting on keyboards?
>>26060812
Cats like hands, more than you think.
>>26053087
Same reason humans are called humans. Some guy was like "I think that people need to be called something. I'll call us humans." or however it went down.
>>26060812
Because you're using them.
Inspection bump
>>26060812
Cats are highly efficient quantum machines that fold themselves into an universe where the location result of their folding is at its locally-optimal discomfort for a human that would call itself 'owner'. Just be glad they fold onto your keyboard and not at even more uncomfortable times and places.
I know 4chan is strictly an english-speaking group and all, but what other languages do you guys speak and write fanfiction on? Just out of curiosity.this is little more than a stealth bump
>>26063769
I can read, speak and write in Spanish with varying degrees of proficiency, but I don't write any work in it.
Can we request fanfics?
Requesting acutestory about a mismagius using thunderwave to give her trainer sleep paralysis.
Pic somewhat related.
>>26064335
I'd think sleep paralysis would moreso be caused by something like Nightmare.
>>26063769
My native is Spanish, but I write little fanfiction for it, due to the tremendously different market. I also more or less speak and write Esperanto but have done nothing notable about it, though it sounds like an interesting plan.
>>26064335
you can request, but good luck finding people to take it.
>>26058878
>Krouscht
>awesome
you are objectively wrong on that, Krouscht is so much of a fag his anus hasn't completely closed since 3rd grade
Eternally Vernal, Chapter 5.
A hunting we will go.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6400045/chapters/15223843
>>26064510
Can you not
>>26053087
Each universe I write in that involves Pokemon in some form use 2 scenarios although slightly altered to fit what's needed.
>Regular Journey Fic: Prior to the invention of Pokeballs, Pokemon were called creatures/mythical creatures/legendary creatures/monsters. Then after the Pokeball was invented the phrase Pocket Monsters was used for them which was then shortened to Pokemon as a slang term which caught on.
>Set in a time prior or without Pokeballs: Pokemon are basically the first part of the above. Various kinds of monsters or creatures with different rarities.
>>26063769
I can read french stuff pretty fine. Writing would probably be basic shit. Like hell if I'm speaking it though.
>>26063769
I lool forward to exploring the Chinese fanfiction/web novel world within the next six years.
Guys, these threads turned me into a pokefucker. I used to laugh at that shit but now I think about how I can implement it in story form. What the hell am I doing with my life?
>>26067760
>exposing yourself to NSFW stuff that's usually labeled as such
That's what you get.Boredom can take you far
>>26067760
>What the hell am I doing with my life?
Discovering its purpose.
>>26067760
Discovering new interests, nothing wrong with that. Everyone makes such a big deal about gazing into the abyss, it's really not all that bad,it just feels weird to have it crawl into you through your mouth and eyes.
>>26058742
Then just write 'portable monster'.
Like so: 携帯獣
Some anons in a waifu thread came up with http://pastebin.com/T0PnL9S0
Then another anon spit balled some weeb shit based on it.
http://pastebin.com/T0PnL9S0
If anyone wants to use these ideas, go ahead.
>>26067760
>>26067844
What cge said. Welcome to the club.
>>26063769
Portuguese here; we have a small but steady community for pokémon fanfiction. Heck, one of the guys is into NSFW stuff, sadly, he's not that good of a writer.
Sadly, I can't into english language enough to take a decent shot; that doesn't stop me from lurking though
>>26064478
I bet you're Chilean, weon.
>>26063769
Native Spanish speaker, high level English speaker, some skills in Japanese and German.
>>26069848
How many bitcoins are you willing to bet?
>>26070262
Give me your validation address. Then we'll talk.
Bump question: the most interesting/unique/background-rich original character you've created for your writing?
I.e., talk about your original characters.
>>26071585
Argonian who left her tribe and was ultimately a mary sue
I haven't made any interesting original characters.
what are some recommended trainer journey fics?
>>26071585
A retired pokemon master who would have been part of the "genwun" generation in the animeverse. She used to be really super famous but then grew disillusioned with league politics and quit to become a pokemon rehabilitator. I really liked what I did with her, but never wound up writing anything down.
>>26071585
I've already mentioned my family of sacrificial ceremonies in a thread before, so I won't repeat that edgefest.
A girl fromBostonis kidnapped by her crackhead mother and pimped out in another state, until her android babysitter, now a police officer, finds her completely by accident and turns the whole drug den upside down. With the girl's character, Itry my best todelve into the trauma, isolation, and codependence that result from her experiences.They're not a healthy couple, but they're not supposed to be.
>>26071878
Pedestal
Trigger warning for edge
>>26071585
Back when I first played PMD: explorers of time, I noticed that I never encountered a buizel in all my time exploring, only floatzel. I wanted to make something to explain why, so I made a buizel OC, had a plan and everything for him too. I still have it stored somewhere, but I never got to do anything about it because of a mixture of laziness and business
>>26071585
That would have to be the lizard gangster with a demon trapped in their right eye. More info upon request.
>>26072710
>>26074266
Write something finally and post it here
>>26075313
I have to finish the piece I'm working on currently before I start anything new. I always do that - start a bunch of shit and then never finish it. I promised myself that I would finish this one before I started anything else.
>>26075425
I think that's a thing among the Internet writers. I have four separate fictitious universes I've never done a thing with aside from outline documents and barest suggestions of plot.
>>26075312
Requestan
>>26075425
Speaking from experience, that's a good way to forget everything. It's not a crime to have a few ongoing stories/universes etc.
>>26071585
I'm hoping Jo ends up more interesting as Au Coup Par Coup evolves, otherwise it's probably Valkut and his thieving, dry, cynical, grudgingly romantic at heart ways.
I also want to make a Xatu named d'Artagnan interesting. Jury's out on what he'll do still.
>>26075835
In the universe that he exists, he controlled drug distribution for that world's Mafia/Mafioso/gang/cartel. At one point, there's a problem with their cocaine supply and they take a trip down to pseudo-Columbia to take a look at what's going on down there and causing the supply to dry up. When he gets there, they stumble onto the fringes of fifty-year-old drug drama. They eventually find out that somebody's been burning the coca plants before they can be processed and it looks like one of the associates they knew. When they go over there to strong arm them into stopping it, they get thrown halfway across the room. Near death, the associate whispers something into the 'ear' of the lizard before bursting into flames and running out the door. Not wanting collateral damage, they give chase but don't get far before collapsing from a powerful migraine. When they wake up, they are tied to a chair by the associates of the one who burnt the coca fields. He tries to explain this, but they are not hearing it. He gets more and more mad until he rips through his bindings and beats the stuffing out of them. He doesn't realize something's wrong until he's drinking their blood and casting fireballs from his hands. Initially, he believes it to be hallucinations, but the demon in his eye, Balthazar, tells him to take a photo of it. Not knowing what went wrong, he scrubs himself of all the evidence and gets home as fast as possible. Soon, the cocaine supply starts back up again, but it seems that Balthazar isn't the only demon involved with the drug trade.
And then plot happens, but you just asked for an explanation of the character, not the entire universe.
>>26076213
Sounds pretty cool. Any particular reason he's a lizard, or is it just author appeal?
>>26076362
Lizard-people have a higher affinity for supernatural stuff, as demons/Angels/etc exist. They oft become mediums. Demonic possession is rare.
bump
>>26075721
It's somethinng I've done for as log as I can remember. Ever one of my favorite shows would have me creating "fanfic" in my head. Sometimes that fanfic would stray so far from the source, that it would essentially be OC.
>>26075845
No, it isn't a crime. But I literally have dozens of universes and hundreds of stories. I came back to pokemon because it was one of my first loves that I can remember, and it's still a thing. I swore that this fic is going to be the first one I finish.
>>26071585
Mentally disturbed, sociopath and schizophrenic pokémon trainer who travels seeking for his sister that doesn't exist together with a psychic companion that ends up boosting his paranoia without noticing.
While that, the evil team is working in the background, and the trainer's path end up entwining with it somehow
>>26070288
I don't even have one. I was just checking how interested were you in betting.
What's with the stating the obvious anyhow? I mean, I _am_ using this nick.Though I barely if ever visit the national board.
>CAPTCHA
>Goodwin's Road
>Goodwin's
>Goodwin
wut
>>26078850
I only wish I'd made that many. I have:
-Pokémon After The End, a type of survival story
-magical girls with a musical motif
-magical boys with sea life motifs
-supernatural scifi high school drama
They all have some kind of tangential relation to the actual canon.
>>26073373
how much edge are we talking?
Anyone know why almost everyone writes the Pokemon league as the political power of the pokeverse and not just a large sports company like FIFA or NFL?
>>26082225
Because sports companies don't carry the firepower of a paramilitary force.
>>26082225
I always assumed because the Pokemon can and canonically have been used as weapons. So instead of who has the biggest guns controls the world, its whoever has the strongest Pokemon. And you don't get much stronger than the champ and elite 4. Some of them could probably level entire cities with their teams.
Maybe that's why there is a 6 Pokemon per team rule. To make sure some upstart doesn't take every single one of his Pokemon try and fight against the league.
>>26082225
>Pokken
>>26082293
How much you want to bet that Ferrum region gets some controversies at the lengths trainers and their Pokemon will go to get a stronger "synergy"?
>>26082152
fun, happy start that becomes so edgy you could shave with it.
plot spoilers:the main guy's friend's brother gets killed by a wild pokemon and then the friend goes crazy and kills everyone, becoming a dictator in the process. I dropped around the time he made all trainers do a tournament to see who gets to keep any pokemon, if they didnt release them all or participate they would get killed along with their mons
tl;dr too much edge
>>26082328
Pokken tourney sex scandal newsfic when?
>>26082466
Dubs demand it
>>26082285
>Villain teams
>Legitimate criminals
>Never abuse the rules by carrying whole bag-loads of pokémon, flaunting conventional battling rules, turning battles on their heads
I just want an unethical Pokémon story villain who bends the rules because he's abadguy.
>>26082760
>Criminal organization head is a gym leader
>Never been a investigation or suspension of his trainer license or gym leadership
>He doesn't even follow the monotype gym rule
>Police are incompetent at ever stopping them
>Some kid has to stop him
There is some kind of league conspiracy theory in this shit and I want a fic on it.
>>26082785
I write more than I read, so I don't check out that many stories, but I'd have thought there'd be a shit load of fics dedicated to League conspiracies somewhere.
>>26082466
Son of a bitch I want to synergize with Suicune's ass
>>26082834
>>26082834
You that guy who made the thread about not being a furry before, but pokken making you want to give the D to Suicune?
>>26082663
Please let it not be a rehash of "Saffron". If I get dubs or trips, then someone has to make a draft within the next month.
>>26082843
It's not like a haughty immortal fuccboi like Suicune wouldn't want to dominate some boring horny human faggot for the kicks.
>>26082853
No, I just contributed to it.
>>26082855
Never read Saffron. It any good?Also I was in the middle of something but I may write something up out of interest.
>>26082882
A cop investigating a Poképhile controversy becomes the verything he sought to destroy. Real raunchy stuff near the end. Good world building, though.
Also, write that fic, please.
>>26082907
You want it to focus on any specific character, like a reporter, politician, an authority over the Ferrum league, the guy who couldn't keep it in his pants, etc?
Any good Pokémon horror fics out there?
>>26082924
The newbie hotshot sleeping his way to the top, caught red-handed.
>>26082987
So empty main character from the story mode designed for people to project on? Got it.
You want any specific Pokemon used?
Otherwise I'll probably use one of the non-bipedal Pokemon because I'd think they'd be more controversial then say Gardevoir or Machamp.
>>26083013
No real preference. I like your idea. Go for it.
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11154009/94/
>cant_wake_up.jpg
>>26082391Nick didn't make anyone do that tournament, it was a bunch of cultist faggota who wanted to be part of his senseless murder club. He shows up and kills them because he's horrified that they'd trivialize death lile that. Maybe you should have continued reading.
>>26083263
>yugiohfan163
Every time
>>26082933
there seems to be only one horror fic in the catalog, revolving around Sabrina
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1852768
>>26083263
I think this might be worse than Mama Lucario.
>>26083298
I don't remember what chapter i was on, and there's no way in hell i'm rereading that part with the little girl who got lost.also that fic is most of the reason i'm so autistic about pokemon never talking
>>26082855
do you have a source on where one can find that fic
>>26083843
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6640086/1/Saffron
>>26083748
Oh yeah the forest part was bad.The romance part is worse.
>>26084086
did his luxray ever stop being a fucking edgelord?
>>26084617
No. I actually liked him when he was a Shinx during the ghost incident. He seemed legitimately obedient. The edge seemed to come out of nowhere.
>>26082861
>give me a night good enough to remember or I'll freeze everything but your crotch in ice and sit here edging you without release for the next fifty straight years so you CAN give me a night good enough to remember
Or is that not fabulous enough of a threat?
>>26085761
>Fifty years of edging
My dick can only get so erect.gifAlso, I thought fuccboi = jabroni = poser = tool
>>26085978
I'm not the person you'd want to ask about urban lingo but I figured the stylized words meant "total flaming gaylord" instead of "total jackass".
>actually wanting it
You do realize you'd barely even be sapient at that point, right? You would, quite literally, exist to release one impossibly gigantic orgasm just to immediately curl up in death afterwards, your heart exploding and your mind self destructing in a massive stroke like you're a male bee that just mated with his queen.
>>26086108
Sounds like a life well spent
>>26086108
That sounds like it would appeal to more people than it seems.dear god no, not to me, I like my sapience and sentience.
>>26086108
That sounds marvelous
>>26086148
Spent through (and out of) your loins. Though if it's any consolation, for an infinisimally tiny amount of time before your orgasm you would be so closely linked with Suicune that you could be retroactively declared the winner of every Pokken match ever to take place.
>>26086171
>>26086176At least I'm not the only depraved freak here.
So tell me - what is the number one trait of a character that makes you absolutely asspained? Don't say "it's a Marysue", since that's a combination of overused traits that adds up to a shit character. I'm just talking about one singular trait that just rubs you the wrong way.
Fun mode - choose one character trait, one physical trait, and one author trait.
Let the venting begin
>>26086704
Pretty much whenever the character for some reason sings and plays an instrument with songs that already exist. Bonus cringe if it was one of those "They are singing in the forest at midnight and the love interest/other character thinks there 2 deep" moments
>>26086108
That's one hell of a good way to go, dude.
>>26086108
>barely even be sapient
ohbaby.gif
>>26086209
You're in good company I'd say.
>>26086704
Angst. Sorry, rather, undying angst. If your character is an angst-fueled wreck than fine, but fuck man. Why don't you take yourself down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and get over it?
I know perma-angst indicates a fatal flaw of character but I still hate it because it comes off as lazy. It's pure hopelessness and it ensures a narrative will see no evolution, only a stable stream of negativity and futility. Granted, this is only particularly bothersome when it's a main character. Side characters I can just ignore.
I have no real qualms with character appearances outside of heterochromia.
>>26086704
Deconstructing dramatics transparently enough to tell that the author is just voicing their opinion of a character and/or the scene in particular
>>26086704
I don't know. I write more than I read.
>>26086148
>>26086171
>>26086176
>>26086913
>>26087273
>all these betas
I thought we raised MEN here!
>>26086704
When authors talk like their characters or in-story universes are real. It's hard to explain that in any other way, other than stupid quips like "haha, don't let [random character] catch you saying that about them! ;^)" or making story-world references in the real world. It annoys me, and it annoys me even more that I can't properly write these thoughts down. I'm drowning in mad.
>>26087935
>not being a switch
Don't pick sides when you've got the room to spread out.
>>26087935
> implying death by snu snu isn't the manliest way to go
>>26088005
Sentiment carried myself. Unlucky to be friends with some (younger) writers, and I was like such myself then.
>>26087386
Care to elaborate?
>>26086704
>character trait
OCs who are always toted as do-gooders who help anybody in need. If it's a canon character, then okay, it's most likely been employed properly or fleshed out as a flaw in itself (astro boy, magic knight rayearth, etc). But when I see it for OCs, the author almost always uses it as a universal merit, a cheap shot at forcing their character's "light" alignment down the reader's throat. It's just not realistic. Real people weigh the cost-benefit ratio in every situation. Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I have encountered very few OCs for which this trait was employed effectively.
>physical trait
muh piercing eyes
>author trait
I should not be able to tell the gender of the author by the style of their writing. If your text is so mind-numbingly dry that I can practically smell your scrotum, you have a fucking problem.
>>26090416
Why do you want to smell my ballsack?
>>26090416
If you know what to look for you can almost always tell the author's gender by their writing style and habits.
>>26091196
What do you look for? Admittedly I'm not exactly a reading connoisseur, so I wouldn't even know where to start.
>>26091315
Well in NSFW writing it's pretty easy. Men tend to go into every single detail about what's happening, how big everything is, and how everyone's feeling. Women tend to focus more on the emotional side of the interaction, and are more likely to put more dialogue in the middle of such scenes.
This is true in all aspects, really, but is harder to notice. Men tend to like to convey information clearly, whereas women prefer to convey emotion.
Of course, this is a generalization, and a really good writer and write in a voice that doesn't match their gender if they choose.
>>26091544
>tfw fitting this category snug as a big in a rug
Well shit.
>>26092701
But what emotions is the bug experiencing?
>>26093047
aw fuck I missed the fucking picture. let me try again.
>>26082328
>>26082466
>>26082663
>>26082834
>>26082855
>mfw
>>26092975
*sucks the blunt even harder*
What emotions are your emotions experiencing?
>>26091196
True. From my experience, anything super dry and emotionless is written by a man, and literally everything else is women. And despite my criticism, I am not immune to this.I probably write like a fucking valley girl but luckily no one online has caught on.
>>26082907
>>26082882
Where can I read such I story?
>>26095707
ah, good old stereotypes.
>>26095707
>>26097931
>>26091544
Can anybody point me to some examples? I'm trying to disguise my "author voice", and want some goal posts, if you will. Just things to keep in mind so I can stay in the middle and not give myself away.
>>26097970
I have a personal vendetta against Call of the Wild, so whatever you do, just don't sound like that author.
>>26097970
http://www.theguardian.com/books/quiz/2011/jun/02/naipaul-test-author-s-sex-quiz
Had I not second guessed/assumed there'd be curveballs I would have scored 10/10 but instead I got 8/10.
It's a decent primer on how men and women write differently, but it's purely example based. There's a lot more to be said about the subject, and it is the subject of debate in the field.
>>26098504
>tfw I got 4/10
I'm a shit reader
I wonder if Raygall is still alive here...
Two horror stories:
An Erotic Tale of Eroticism: http://pastebin.com/me8KMfK4
Cabbage: http://pastebin.com/KSVGSjvk
Jigglypuff's Choose-Your-Own-Adventure Birthday Tale:
http://play.textadventures.co.uk/Play.aspx?id=pntuqcilbuquer2hfuspwg
>>26095707
The stories written by dudes are pretty conservative unless they're stemming from pure fetish fuel, whereas girls write stuff that's pretty steamy or intricate, almost to the point of being gratuitous.
>>26102144
>Cabbage
...Victrebel? What pokemon ate that buneary?
>>26103339
It was his mom who was a cabbage.
I'm writing this nonsense for the first time in years because you fags refuse to write gay stuff.
Thanks guys.
>>26104851
gay stuff like what? I like writing gay stuff
>>26104936
Fluffy romance stuff. As long as it's not shipping.
>>26105000
>fluff romance
>not shipping
I'm not sure that computes. isn't the core of shipping made out of fluffy romance? Maybe a more concrete example?
>>26105021
Fluffy platonic love is the cutest stuff in the world~! Fluffy stuff is just that floating sense of togetherness you get from being with a person you like. Love is acting on it.
>>26105113
Right, but isn't that still shipping?
Like, I thought the definition of "I ship that", means you want to see two people together in a relationship. That means ALL aspects of a relationship, though sometimes people will smut-ship only because while they like seeing two characters fuck, they know any kind of real relationship between the two of them would be bad news.
All fluff = shipping
All shipping =/= fluff
>>26104851
>Be a gaylord
>The only gay I've written was smut with the intention of fluff
>Write successful straight fluff
>Writing straight fluff right now
>Will probably be writing straight fluff until the end of time
>>26105021
What I mean is that I prefer OC stories to characters from the games, since I don't have any real attachments to the existing characters. It's more fun for me, as a reader, to see someone build their story from the ground, up.
>>26105312
Straight fluff is really fun to write, the terrible sense of embarrassment I have the entire time I'm writing it be damned.
>>26105335
Ooooohhhhhh, Ok, I get what you're saying now. It probably would have helped to specify OCs, especially since this is a fanfic thread.
If that's the case, I'm afraid I'm probably not the anon for you. I do like writing fluffy stuff, but usually only with established characters.
>>26105349
Embarrassment? Why would you feel embarrassment while pouring on the corniness?
>>26105386
I guess corn is good for you, r-right?I've written a lot of fluff in my time, and I've tried to get away from it, not because I dislike it, but because branching out is good.
But I keep getting roped back into it because I'm a hopeless romantic. So whenever I indulge myself I feel embarrassed, but I've kinda stopped caring; I'll just write what I like and do my best to branch out anyway.
>>26103407
Huh. Interesting family trait there.
>>26102161
>that grammar
Non native English speaker?
>>26106933
Yeah not a lot of people know that about Lopunny.
>>26050589
They've always been here, just quiet most of the time
>>26106933
The other response to your post was meant for the post above yours.
And no, not a non-native English speaker--just wrote it as though one.
>>26105406
I do the same thing. I feel like, in the event that I ever get anything published, it'll most likely be some [spoiler higher quality [/spoiler] romance novel.
>>26108112
I derped on the spoiler. Oh well.
>>26104851
sounds like you've written before though.What's yer history?
>>26109718
Please don't make me write something with bianca and cheren, i've already got a huge list of shit i need to write.remember pic related?
>>26110054
>pic related
Did you finish it?
>>26110106
Bahahahahano
I'm kinda letting it sit because violence and bloody rapemurder are not things i want to work on at a public computer
>>26110155
>rapemurderwhy does this sound so familiar?
>>26110350
Because it is the most beautiful declaration of love you can make, saying "i love you so much that after i fuck your brains out, i will make sure nobody ever does again"
also I might be a little bit of a masochist, and really like writing violence and death and beautifully thought out plans to eviscerate people how they deserve.
Yandere Zinnia may include, but not limited to:
>Lisia found dead with her eyes gouged out, strangled with her own intestines and "Whore" written on her forehead in blood
>May, tortured and stabbed dozens of times right in front of brendan
>brendan, tied down to a gurney and stabbed through each joint on his hands and feet with a large, rusty nail
>zinnia riddled with bullets when the police find her and the soon-to-be dead brendan
>Flannery being waterboarded with kerosene and then set on fire, doused and allowed to recover before repeating.
and more if i think of it
>>26110155
Violence =! yandere
It just means extremes of love, delusions of grandeur, and possessiveness. IMO, yandere without the slow burn insanity is not worth it. It's no fun if she just starts out killing people. Not even Yūno Gasai did that.
>>26110471
You don't need to think of more. The CIA torture manual was put into the public domain awhile ago. Use that.
>>26110645
oh, don't worry. the slow burn insanity will happen, most of the minor character deaths will be hardly more than passing news stories until Brendan finds out about zinnia
>>26110661
i will certainly take a look, one more i thought of to kill someone though
>stick a breathing tube into their lungs, pump hydrogen in until they're nearly passed out from lack of oxygen
>set off a small spark to ignite the gas, causing their lungs to explode
>>26110717
>tricks a scientist into making Anatoxin-A
>slips it into [girl]'s drink
>>26110813
too easy, if anything, kidnap the girl, torture her until she is begging for death, and then tell her she can have the anatoxin if she can make it to the other side of a room, where the floor is covered in broken glass and caltrops.
If she is able to still stand, zinnia would break one of her kneecaps as she started walking, causing her to collapse and have to drag herself across, and when she finally makes it to the end, say "just kidding!" and laugh as the girl breaks down screaming.
then, MAYBE give her the poison, if she feels like it.
>>26110925
Jesus Hat, are you sure you didn't mean to say you're a sadist?
>>26110925
>>26110471
>>26110717
>afraid of typing violent scenes in public area
>sharing with us some violence on 4chan
>>26111285
sadomasochist. You either imagine inflicting the pain in great detail or expereince/indulge in the pain in great detail.
>>26110925
That's entry-level sadism for someone like her. Why not go full madness?
>>26111319
I can do 4chan on my phone, and its a bit of both for the causing/feeling pain. Its one of the things i hide most from my family/real friends.
God forbid my grandmother found out the shit i write, she'd have another heart attack
>>26111319
I mean, I can write violent shit from both perspectives but take no real pleasure in either unless it is deserved. That's schadenfreude at work I guess.
>>26111811
Isn't most anything that gets written here (with some exceptions) shit that probably shouldn't be seen by family?
>>26112165
oh, i wouldn't want anyone in my family to read what i write, ever.
it's just that if i had to choose, i'd rather they find the meaningless story about some chick going camping than the story about murder and rape and death
>>26112165
I wouldn't want anyone in my family knowing I write Pokemon fanfiction, lewd or not.
>>26112510
My literary theories are more dangerous than 3k word lewdfics I just shit out in an hour. I'd probably get more shit for that because I'm friends with people who I know would not care about what I do for money. My family, when I do see them, is the same way.
>>26110350saws used to love rapemurder;_;
>>26113814
To be fair, some of the people in#/vp/drawfagsasked if i was saws multiple times.he's the reason i like traps and pain
RIP
>>26112515
Most of my friends know.And they're really cool about it all things considered.
>>26114871
sounds like you havegood friends
>Inspired constantly by having a Fennekin plush with a head bigger than my own
Wowie I should hurry up with this current fic and get right back to being a faggot all day and making a doggo and a snek kiss.
>>26048764
>what makes or breaks a fic for you when searching for something to read?
Hard to say, since there's a lot of things that can easily send fics off the rails and into 'meh, dropped'. The reflexive things that would make a fic even catch my interest to begin with is having a competent writing style and doing something distinctive from the herd.
On that note, I also am back with another update. Which will close out the current block of chapters in favor of a new one in-story.
FFN:
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/34/Fledglings
AO3:
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/3465593/chapters/15324973
>>26117422
Yes, yes you should. You have like... three people, at least, eagerly awaiting your next thing. Myself being one of them, naturally. Keep us updated, pal.
>remember being kid on Pokemon website
>see random RP thread, and write Mystery Dungeon adventures
>eventually make my own PMD site full of tales
It's 10 years since then, looking back on the site. Does anyone else have as cringey a beginning, or did people mostly just start after seeing the threads for so long on /vp/? Want to move on and write some cute stories but I feel like I might not have what it takes/would hate to make someone cringe.
>>26118195
Hell yeah, my roots (way the fuck back too) are cringey as fuck, I had a bunch of stupid ideas that were edgy as fuck despite my best efforts even then to not have them be. Hell, I think my work from just 3 or 4 years ago is just as cringey, just not edgy.
I'm glad I'm past that shit, but looking back, it was some 13 years ago. God damn, where did the time go?
Anyway, as far as the latter part of your post: just start. You don't get better without practice.
>>26118158
Well there's just things I gotta write that no one else will write, you know? That's how I started writing fics at all was how obviously exploitable topics were being ignored. Besides, /feg/ is 80% smut anyways. They need a little more fluff in their lives.
The only doubt I still have is what I'm going to fucking write about once I loop back. Like, I got this relationship established and a bunch of characters but what am I going to do with them? I've been thinking hard on some nice Suicune stuff that take place in the main world, but the potential for that could be weighed from a major project all the way down to a one-shot. At least it wouldn't be what I had planned for the future of the Larvesta.Really, nothing was even written down and it was still far too dark in comparison to anything else I've ever done.
>>26118195
I don't want to post my OC from years ago again, please don't make me do it. I expunged that fanfiction from the universe for a reason.
By now you're probably miles from being cringe-worthy considering you're so self-conscious about it. All you need to do now is try and improve, basically.
>>26118217
>it was still far too dark in comparison to anything else I've ever done
Well, you can't just SAY that and leave it at that. What about all that talk about 'mastering the art of suffering' a few threads back?
>>26118224
The original plot would be so needlessly dark that I'd venture that, even well-written and coherent, that shit would probably be sharper than chef Ramsay's kitchen knives. Like, imagine a downward slope. That's everyone's hopes and dreams as I would progress the fic. Larvesta is supposed to be a starry-eyed kid who wants to see the world from above, and while it would be important to convey how unforgiving that dream might be, my plan was to basically shit all over everything she ever knew and loved possibly until an untimely death. Ears I'd like to think was bitter tinged with sweet, not literally drinking bleach.
>>26118238
And to add: I, too, wish for snek and doggo fun times before I decide to ruin people's days on a regular basis.
>What makes or breaks a fic for you when searching for something to read?
Hard to day. It usually has to be a combination of things. But the highest scorers for things that break a fic for me are a) keeping Pokémon too out of focus b) having too many bad / evil things happen in the first few chapters c) too strict adherence to one canon alone (manga, games, etc). All that in no particular order.
>>26114104
I jelly.
>CAPTCHA
>APACHE CARRIER
>instant AU history plot Nidos
>deepestlore.mp3
>>26118217
gee, foxes sure are prone to digging anywhere
Been a while since last dead hours
So, yet another question to lively up the thread:
Who here besides me happens to write Pokémon nonfiction / in-universe fictional documentation (in addition to fiction)? Has anyone ever chanced to write a school essay, or perhaps an article for a magazine, on Pokémon?
And what are your thoughts on Pokémon nonfiction anyway?
>>26123558
Can't say I have. I wrote a research paper on TF2 and the concept of built environments in college that was worth publishing though.
I regret not publishing it.
>>26123558
I took psychology in college all the way up to the 450 level and I did wind up writing a paper on how Pokémon psychology could work and non-bullshit ways the things the creators said about people in that universe could work.
>>26123558
>Pokémon nonfiction
elaborate
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Pokemon that let themselves be caught willing by trainers?
>>26126359
As long as there's a reason behind it. A life spent with a trainer can be spun pretty easily to seem more attractive than a life spent out in the wilds; they get food, shelter, and a never-ending supply of new opponents to face so that they may better themselves and grow stronger. Alternatively, they may feel they owe the trainer a debt, such as for saving their life. As long as there's some sort of reasoning behind the decision, there's nothing wrong with it.
>>26126359
Sick as fuck, that's what I think.
Sure, earning the respect of a pokemon enough to be tamed is great and all, but I always felt that there was more potential in a pokemon that allowed itself to be under the authority of a human. That kind of shit doesn't just happen, an individual mon would need some kind of reason or list of reasons as to why being subjected to a master would be superior to roaming wild. I'm especially keen on that kind of shit with legendaries, though it's a lot harder to sell considering they mostly have no reason to lot themselves beneath any old human.Lust and cultural curiosity are the most acceptable terms in my book.
>>26126359
Considering that's pretty much the default for my setting, I don't think too ill of it. That's the purpose why Pokémon appear before people on the tall grass - there's a test and if the test is passed the Pokémon comes willingly --and sometimes feels entitled to be pushy about doing it.
But that relies on, as >>26126378 puts it, "as long there's a reason behind it". Merely getting out of the wilds doesn't cut it. Merely "oooh I'm going to battle, get knocked out and wake up unharmed next to a hot Chansey" doesn't either.
>>26126359
As for my fic, the reason is that most pokémon living in the wild are dying for no reason whatsoever, not to mention the food supply has dried out. Granted, that's some weird reason involving radiation and other bullshit only a ficwriter could think of. While that specific case didn't happen yet (the closest to it was "I didn't want to be caught but heck, why wouldn't I want this life?"), but soon enough pokémon will start begging for trainers to take them.it's not all fluffy with trainers either. Nuzlocke rules do apply.
>>26126359
I don't see anything questionable in gaining allies through negotiation.
One needs to be careful to have it make sense and not just be some cheap cartoonish excuse to avoid conflict. That goes double if Pokémon are portrayed as sapient. The scenario can easily reveal holes in the worldbuilding.
/r/ing a lewd M/Maestro X F/Horny Toad fanfic based off of this glorious saga: >>26124043
>>26126559a long time ago I wanted to do a reverse nuzlocke story. In previous runs, the MC's pokemon always die, but never the NPCs. I wanted to see what happens if the MC's pokemon never die (instead released on spot), but everyone else around them do...not to mention that they're oblivious about it, probably until its too late.
