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Your Zilly Greninja Edition

OLD THREAD:
>>25746042

New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
provides an approximation.

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads

>Your Old Cards
No one wants them

Theme of the thread: Did you ever make fake Pokemon cards? Did you ever use them with anyone other than family?
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So any guesses on the next bundle?
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this is the true thread. fuck that other thread.
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>>25763838
Yeah, I have the filter to put TCG/O General at the top of the page, not TCGO.
That OP failed, so this is the real thread.
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anyone think this guy'll get a reprint? or any other of the fire support cards that Flashfire introduced?
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>fire pokemon will never be good
why? why couldn't M Houndoom have been good enough to at least play.

Kill me.
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>>25763952
Considering all recent and upcoming Fire cards are balanced around Blacksmith existing, they either reprint it or the entire type becomes unplayable.

Scorched Earth is already getting a reprint in XY10.

>>25763966
Entei/Charizard is currently topping tournaments.
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>only four cards are missing for a complete Gym set
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>>25763980
>topping tournaments
Locals don't really count..
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>>25763966
Houndoom will be the only playable fire type come rotation so there's that going for it. It'd still be tier 3 at best unless the power vacuum is larger than expected.
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>>25763966
M Houndoom would be incredibly good if The Wrench were still Standard
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>>25764001
Just praying there's a crazy new fire card in the next few sets.
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>>25763999
It was the fourth best deck during Cities, placing it in a solid Tier 2.
Right now, it's gotten Top 4 at a States. It's roughly on par with Mane/Bats and Garchomp.
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>>25763980

>Scorched Earth is already getting a reprint in XY10.

That's only for the Zygarde EX deck (not the main XY10 set in Japan), so we don't know if it will be reprinted in English otherwise we would've have our VS Seeker reprint already since it was in the Palkia EX + Golduck BREAK deck in Japan
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>>25764008
the wrench?
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>>25764057
Tool Scrapper. Take off your Spirit Link and apply a Muscle Band so you can actually kill things without bats or Giovanni.
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>>25764031
Japan gets such good pre-made decks
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>>25763981
Nice, I want to start collecting older sets too but not sure where to begin. Where did you obtain your cards?
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>>25764140
I asked all Magic players for their old cards and then I got them for free which was a good start for a collection. I bought the rest on Ebay and pokemoncardmarket.eu.
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>>25764134

Well, the only problem is that the deck only included one

>>25764140

Depending on what set prepare to pay out of your ass
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>>25764128
Tool Retriever accomplishes the same goal. It also lets you recycle your Links/Bands/Stones to use on a second Houndoom or to pull them off a Shaymin.

Obviously being able to hit your opponent's tools makes Scrapper better, but Retrieval is fine enough.
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>>25764186
>Well, the only problem is that the deck only included one

to be fair, you can get a VS seeker in the Battle Arena Mewtwo vs Darkrai along with some other useful cards. . .but yeah. VS Seeker needs a reprint.
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>>25764164
Alright thanks

>>25764186
Probably Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge 1st edition. I do want to collect base, jungle and fossil but probably unlimited for those.
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>>25764219

HereLiesAnonsWallet.jpg
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>>25764219
>Gym Heroes and Gym Challenge 1st edition

Depending on where you live this can get extremely expensive.
For me as a European it was expensive even to get unlimited versions of those cards.
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>>25764230
>>25764247
I don't want to think about how much money I've spent into this hobby ;_;
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Best places in europe/UK to get singles for a reasonable price?

Ebay seems like a bust and pokemoncardmarket.eu doesn't even have every card.
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>>25764517
i second this. everyone says to use tcgplayer but thats USA only
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So I'm new and just put together a deck without knowing anything about the meta or basic decks of the game

Help
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>>25765888
Put that deck away and use theme decks until you know things.
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>>25765903
What things?
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>>25765931
Lots of things, but I think the most important is learning what makes a good card good and what makes a bad card bad. That sort of knowledge can only come from actually playing the game many times.
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>>25765931
Things
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>>25765963
I am confused how I learn this from theme battles.
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>>25766015
It's about knowing the basic cards (greninja, chesnaught, blaziken), the trainer cards (prof sycamore, professors letter etc) and understanding what works best in a given situation, Given that you're new, you might not have the best cards. Take a look at OP's post to have a look at decklists and how you can gain cards
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>>25766723
I have a decent amount of cards and staples at this point, and I know the basic gist of things so far. I'm playing a Greninja break deck, missing a few things though
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>>25766761
cool, i'm running a chesnaught break / dragonite deck and it runs pretty well. I've only been playing a month and it's pretty easy to pick up. I'm experimenting with a mblastoise-ex deck :^)
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>triggered
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>>25767105
wouldn't it be broken if it was chesnaught break?
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>brought 4 BP and 2 AO
>everything is crap except one Espeon-EX
dammit
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>>25767689
>playing against the house and expecting to win
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>tfw outskilled
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>>25764140


Start at Base set. Base, Jungle, Fossil, and Rocket are all the cheapest sets.

Personally, I use yardsales (Yardsale season is coming up too), thrift stores, antique shops (Pic related was $20) and for new sets, I go to prereleases to save money on packs, and buy at my local card shops since they tend to be cheaper and often do buy4get1 deals.

I also scam the FUCK out of my local target and make them sell me $40-$50 boxes of cards for $19.99 because they have the wrong sticker in the card section and haven't fixed it in over 2 months.
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forgot my pic
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Hi, excuse me people. I would like to start playing Pokémon TCG, but my question is how's the set rotation? Is the current one ending really soon and the cards are not going to be worth anything anymore? On a similar subject, do we have a Banlist?

Thanks.
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Thread feels slower than usual lately. Dead game?
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>>25768846
you're dead
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This threads dead but I just logged into my tcgo account for the first time since 2012 and it seems someone has been using it....I have literally every card and I stopped playing while HG/SS was still a thing. I changed my password and everything but what the fuck im so confused...
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>>25768667
Rotation happens in September. Presumably we're losing sets XY, Flashfire, Furious Fists and Phantoms Forces in Standard.

The Standard ban list is literally picture related. Card bans in general are rare, Lysandre's Trump Card was the first one in years. Expanded has also banned Shiftry from Next Destinies, because it can theoretically end the game without the other player even getting a turn thanks to Forest of Giant Plants.
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>>25764517
>>25764890
Ireland fag here, have bought from TCGPlayer many times.
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>>25769063

>pull the FA variant IRL
>Can't fucking use it
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>>25764140
I'm into collecting old cards as well.

So far, I mostly got them from yardsales (and like some anon told you, the yardsale season is about to start/started recently) and conventions. At conventions, you will typically find people who kinda overprice their products, but sometimes it's worth it, especially since some of them don't know their real value.

You can find amazing deals at yardsales, the problem is that the hardcore collectors go there as soon as they open (think 4-5 AM) and pretty much hunt for the goods, so sometimes you gotta be lucky.

Haven't bought online yet, but I'm strongly considering it. If anyone got recommendations on the matter, I'll gladly welcome them (buy in pack? singles? etc).

Also, if you're not afraid to reveal some of your power level, talk about it around you. You'd be surprised at the number of people who still have some of their old cards around. I got a whole binder from my cousin's stepbrother and a good amount of cards from the EX set from a friend that way.
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>>25769095
>>25768646

>Yardsale
Where do find yardsale that specifically sell pokemon cards? I'm assuming its just some website that list a whole bunch of yardsale?
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>>25769123

Typically, you just drive around looking for signs.

Though, you can check craig's list for yardsale listings, assuming you live in the middle of bumfuck.

You can also download yardsale apps on yourphone. They take the CL listings, and drop them down as pins on a map so you can see how many are in each neighborhood. I use one called "Yardsale Rover"

You're still going to find the most by just driving around though. Keep an eye out for signs, and stop at EVERY thrift store you pass on the way.
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>>25769123
I just go to the one I can attend and I look around for binders/cards.

I like visiting yardsales in general, feels like a little adventure, a scavenger hunt even. I like wandering around and observ what people put on display while looking for cards and other things that interest me (mainly old games, but it can be a bit of everything).

Yardsales are scheduled at the same places all the time here, so I just know when they happen basically. There is also a website listing all the yardsales scheduled for the upcoming months in my region.
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>>25769147
>>25769154

Ok, thanks, I'll keep on look out as I live in NYC so there should be a fuck ton of yardsale soon.

I was shopping around eBay for a complete set of gym heroes/challenge and they go around for $150-200+ but if garage/yardsale have better deals on singles I might give that a shot.
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>tfw in 2 years i'll have been collecting Pokémon cards for 20 years

I have an amazing collection but what the fuck am I doing with my life.
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>>25769200

Long Island here. You will have no shortage of yardsales, I promise you. Craig's List will also be your god.
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>>25769238
You are having fun, Anon.
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>>25769238
something you love?
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Normally I would say that I find this disgusting, but somehow you people are more mature than /v/, which leaves me concerned instead.
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A couple days ago I asked for some hype matches after watching the 2015 nationals finals. Well I just watched a regional final that was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QFb4XMdvA4

Dude gets destroyed in game 1, and in game 2 nothing was going his way, until he sky returned 5 turns in a row, and got 3 clutch sleep flips in his favour, winning it literally on the last turn before decking out, game 3 was almost as clutch as well,
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>>25769732
No wonder there are so many Unova, and Hoen fags on this board
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>>25769732
I see tons of posts here that are clearly posted by underage users, stupid fucking questions and terrible, terrible advice.

Never see that shit on /v/, /v/'s more retarded but it has a more mature posterbase for sure.

>>25769818
Don't forget Sinnoh babbies.
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>>25769827
Sinnoh is actually good though, so whatever
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>>25769831
Underage detected!
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>>25769841
Nah, trust I'm a genwunner. I haven't played XY yet, but compare sinnoh to Hoenn and Unova, its way better than those two by far (I only played platinum though, which is WAY better than Pearl and Diamond from what I hear)
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>>25769863
I don't think you can give gen 4 a free pass when D/P were so shit.
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>>25769883
Fair enough, I wouldn't know better
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So is VS seeker ever getting a reprint?
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>error
holy shit I hope someone falls for this
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>mainteance
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>25769999
>falls for this
What's the trick here?
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Anyone think TPC will ever reprint Shaymin-EX, it's the one thing stopping me from trying to play competitively.
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>>25770029
>laughing_magic/ygo/vanguard/tcg_players.png
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>>25769952
Does the SR one from ROS not count?
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>>25770007
it's not an error, you can rub off the ink of holo cards with nail polish. you can clearly see where he brushed over the border of the card art.
https://youtu.be/NFgjJC2etz0
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>>25770029
It's possible. We got Mewtwo, Darkrai, Rayquaza, and Yveltal reprints before and they were all expensive cards due to their meta presence. And I'm sure TPCi would want to keep Shaymin around for as long as possible because of its immense draw power. But as of right now there is nothing announced.
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>>25770043
I'm guessing that anon is a poorfag and doesn't feel like paying $40+ for a playset of nonholo VS Seekers, that's why they're asking about a reprint. And again, like Shaymin, it's always possible. But nothing's confirmed.
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Anyone else here absolutely love playing theme decks? I've been doing decently with Electric Eye, just ordered Ember Spark online because I love the Cyndaquil and Growlithe lines. I'm excited to get them online.
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Hello
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>>25770263
They are fun to play and don't feel cancerous.
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>>25770298
Post pulls nigga.
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>>25770263
I wish they were slightly more competitive
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>servers are down for maintenance
;_;
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>>25770259
I have money, but I've played other TCGs where playsets of non holo staples don't go for that much, I'd like to save money where I can and I don't plan on playing physical until I move to America in September.
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>>25770310
It was okay, hoped for more.
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>>25770359
What other TCG's lack in expensive nonholos they more than make up for in expensive holos. While I don't think any nonholo Trainer card, no matter how much it's used, should cost more than $5, the fact that it's the only nonholo Trainer card in the Standard format softens the impact just a little bit.
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How does VGC work? I'm really confused how you qualify for the different tourneys. Do you just go to these places, play and win and get season points like in golf or something?
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>>25770786
also who the fuck hosts an event on thursday at 3 pm, shit is wank
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>>25770786
Fairly certain that's referring to Video Game Championship which is the meta for doubles
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>>25770823
VGC is the official Pokemon Championship Series for the video game and TCG
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>>25770840
>has video game in the title
>still uses pay wall physical cards instead of using the PTCGO client
Imagine if you went to an official event and you sat across from your opponent with an iPad so it has that tabletop feel
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>>25770840
Nevermind, but you know what I meant, like the offical tourney is what I wanted to know about
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>>25770876
Nah I'm just an idiot my bad, vgc is strictly for the game, but these events happen at the same time. I want to try to go to one of them either for game or tcg but I don't understand how it works.
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>>25770876
Can you play tcgo on mobile?
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>>25770914
iPad is the only mobile platform.
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>>25770927
I guess they are scared of cheat engines on android?
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How do you physical guys order your cards in maps? Do you allow cards back-to-back? I am currently just throwing 'em in there. Somewhat on release data order.
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>>25770937
More like they already had a mac client and could port it over very easily.
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>>25770914
On tablets you can!
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>>25770914
>>25770927
>>25770949
Soon there's going to be an Ubuntu tablet, so I'd assume you could run the Windows client through Wine to play TCGO everywhere on a 10in tablet for less than an iPad Air.
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Looks like they updated the client.
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>>25770401
terrible card value in breakpoint, not even worth opening a box imo.
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Whats the thing with the gems?
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>>25771172
Some form of currency you buy.
They were testing it in Canada, seems they're bringing it over now.
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>>25771172
>>25771183
What do they do though?
Everything in the store is still coins
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>>25771248
They're functionally identical to coins, but the only way to get them is to pay actual money. Meaning you can just pay cash to get anything you want from the shop, instead of grinding up coins.

Also, anything you buy with coins isn't trade-locked. So now you can buy tradable decks and packs directly from the client, or tradable promos from the bundles.

This is why promos like Jirachi and Regirock are so expensive. The only way to get a tradable copy of them is if someone in Canada bought it with real money.
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The new reward wheel is pretty nice. I just got 375 coins from one of those packs. Wonder what else is there.
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>>25771282
>>25771248
>>25771183
>>25771172
Shit, I just started last week, and live in Canada, and here I thought those gems were always around. Its strange though, I can't log in.
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>>25771282
better than buying code cards off of ebay at least
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>99%
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>>25771282
>Also, anything you buy with coins isn't trade-locked
I just bought a RS pack with coins and it's trade-locked
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>>25771312
i'm guessing he meant gems
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>gems are away again
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im fairly new to the game and about to finish my first deck but i need 3 more cards and the trading on TCGO is ass.

would any of you mind trading me:
float stone
dimension valley
trevenant (base)

much appreciated
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>meh bundle
>legacy mode

Well, this will be an interesting day.
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>>25771306
Depends on the price.
On ebay, you get code cards for $0.25 each, or less if you buy bulk. You can get 50~100 codes for $20, for example.

Pic related are the prices for gems in Canada, using Canadian money. Packs cost 100 gems and theme decks are 300 gems.

So they expect you to pay 1600%+ markup per pack. Which will be fun and games until they stop putting code cards in physical packs to save money.

>>25771312
I meant gems, I'm sorry.
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>>25763726
Mad gel of that pull. Trying to get a second Base set frog, but people ask for 2 boosters. I got none at the moment.
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>need to save up boosters to get specific cards
>every time i get boosters i just open them, can't control myself
How many packs for shaymin-EX? I'm getting 2-3 boxes of fates collide in may so i might be able to ride the hype and get some for packs.
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So what's the deal with legacy?
Is it just all pre XY cards?
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>>25770946

You mean sleeves?

Set order, card order. Leaving spaces for missing cards
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>>25771519
Well, if Greninja BREAK is 4-5 boosters (Breakpoint) then I guess Shaymin must be 15-20 for normal EX, and 30+ for full art?
Don't quote me on that though, that's just a guess.
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>This was my first Legacy Mystery Box prize.

Weak.

>>25771533

You mean legal cards or prizes? If it's the former, then everything between HGSS and LTR is legal.
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>>25771373
>until they stop putting code cards in physical packs

I'll stop playing if they do this. I only play the client because I buy packs each week
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What should I spend coins on?

Are any of the theme decks worth buying?
I have iron tide rn but blue deck is better
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>>25771549
jesus.
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>>25770946
You mean sleeve pages? Like the ultrapro sheets? If so, I put my nice cards up front and the junk in the back.
I am getting a mini album luxray mini album, comes with a booster just for my rarer cards, and dedicating my normal binder to holo rares, reverse foils and the other cards. Maybe even uncommon cards too. I'll keep the common cards in a mewtwo tin I have.
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>>25771539
I see, thought about this but Ill never finish fossil probably.

>>25771609
Mhmmm sounds nice, did that somewhat.
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>lose 4 straight games after the update, 3 to the exact same Trevenant/Gengar/Octil deck that must be some new hot meme from some pay2read article
>FINALLY win against the 4th person playing the deck
>new EPIC mystery box gives me 1 (one) tournament ticket

a great update 10/10
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>>25771594
I am comparing them to real life cards. So if G-BREAK is 5 packs, and in real life it is 10 dollars, and Shaymin is 40, while the full art is around 55-60, then its just a matter of dividing by 5.
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>do bonus wheel
>AO pack
>lol open it
>Ampharos EX

You guys fucking suck at luck
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How do you check theme deck leaderboards? Just played some guy who claims he is really high up and he complimented me a lot since I told him I only started on friday.
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>>25771714
I don't know much about whats good and what isn't but this literally just happened, check the time in the bottom right
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>>25771856
Ok this is just silly
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>>25771871
>>25771856
>>25771714
You literally can't write this
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>3 mystery boxes
>1 ticket each time

so can you guys confirm that there is something or ANYTHING worth a damn in this new update?
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>>25771941
I literally JUST pulled these 2
>>25771871
>>25771856
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You guys know of any decent 4 pocket albums? I am looking for something to keep my cooler cards safe. I'll double sleeve of course, so it can be on the cheaper side.
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Just downloaded it on windows 7 and it keeps crashing. Pls help.
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>>25772062
You tried running it as admin?
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>>25772071
I did. And it still crashes.
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so what was new with the update ? what are gems?
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Thoughts on this card? I really want to build a deck around it.
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>>25772114
Gems are paid currency

Also, you can't search for anything in Deck Constructor anymore.
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>>25772199
It protects you from:

>Regice's first attack
>Mega Scizor's detach
That's it. Nothing else that matters.
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>>25772199
Virtually useless, mainly because Wind Charm doesn't actually do anything in Standard right now. All it actually stops is Trevenant Break's attack on your bench and Stardust Jirachi's detach, neither of which are major enough to warrant running this.

And its attack is also very costly. A three-energy investment for 110 is very below-curve, and Water is a notoriously bad type.

The best way to run it would be with Palkia EX and Max Elixers, with Manaphy to switch it in when it's ready. But even then there are other, better techs for that combo, like Seismitoad, Regice, and AT Articuno.
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>>25772242
>>25772231
Thank you for that! I'm new to the game so i haven't really invested in anything yet. Aside from water, are there any other types I should avoid until I'm more experienced with the game?
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>>25772324
You don't build around type in Pokemon, you pick a specific card or combo then build a deck around that.

When I said that Water was notoriously bad, I specifically meant that it had very few generic support cards that can fully carry an otherwise-bad deck.

All it really has is Dive Ball, Manaphy, and Archie's. While they're all great cards, they won't magically make a bad Water deck good, unlike generic support for most other types.
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what's worth spending my coins on?
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>>25770298
I just opened a box I got : Skyla , Greninja Break, Ratticate Break , Gyrados EX , Darkrai EX, Emboar EX , Togekiss EX ,Scisor EX
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>>25772387
nothing.... packs are pointless and so are sleeves etc, If you like packs buy them though, they are ''free'' after all
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>>25772400
any decks worth buying for theme versus?
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>>25772410
You can't use any pokemon from packs in theme versus, only the standard decks right?
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>bonus wheel award x3
>375 tokens
>from winning a match

What
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>>25769095
>tfw you still have a ton of these in a box some where from when you played pokemon in 99-2001
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>>25772427
yea
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>>25770401
Fug prices and values, that Ho-oh is the best looking card in the set. Nice.
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Are there any decks that center around poisoning?
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>>25772199
not a card to build a deck around. potentially worth it as a 1-of in some other water deck if Trevenant is a major player in your area. But that's really it.
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>>25763981
Damn, that's sweet. I would love a revisit to Gyms. I have been trying to collect those too, but I can't find these versions of the gym leaders.
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Just bought 85 codes on ebay for 21 quid with 8 of them being promos and the rest packs.
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I can %100 confirm the new mystery boxes can give packs
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>>25772534
In Standard? The most viable would be Sceptile/Ariados. Ariados inflicts poison and Sceptile does more damage to poisoned enemies. Trevenant/Gengar also uses poison; Gengar's second attack deals solid damage and poisons the enemy, while simultaneously switching in a Trevenant to lock your opponent's items.

If you want to go off-meta, try Dragalge from BP. It two-shots any non-Mega for a single attach.

In Expanded, every other deck runs Hypnotoxic Laser and Virbank City Gym to deal bonus damage. Ignoring that, there's Plasma Crobat which had a brief period of viability a few years ago.
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>Roll 1 token on the wheel when winning 4 times
>all 4 times it includes just a single tournament ticket
>Roll 5 tokens and expect to get something sick from the box
>still just 1 tournament ticket

please stop game

for the love of god

I have over a thousand tournament tickets
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I can't be the only one that feels that this card is supper gucci.
Seriously. This son of a bitch has saved me a few times.
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>>25772619
Honestly I'm just trying to find a viable deck based around a pokemon I like
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>>25772659
Sceptile/Ariados and Trevenant/Gengar are both viable in Standard.

What are some Pokemon you like?
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Why is no one talking about this? Literally FREE TRADABLE COL PACKS.
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>>25772710

Because it's a super shit set aside from col energy, which I already have more than a full playset of.
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>>25772396
Nice pulls. Especially skyla. Man I wish there were more jasmine cards.
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>>25772646
I'm the guy that pulled those 3 EX's above, and I'm not shitting you I just got back to back packs in the Mystery Boxes. I don't know what it is with my luck today but its insane.
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>>25772710
Vs. Ladder suffering is too loud
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>>25772769
OH SHIT I just realized they are tradeable too, FUCK, I opened the first one. Will save this one.
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>>25772679
Mawile, Gengar, Vileplume, Alakazam, Machamp, Snorlax, Roserade, Electivire, Scolipede, Chandelure, Golurk, Gourgeist
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Hey party people, it's time for a TRIPLE tin opening, and also some codes, to ease the suffering.
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Good job, me, not posting the Youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAnlBkpRfY
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I just ordered some lilligant cards. Should I get promo's as well? I feel like it's an easy set to get and somewhat worth it. Same goes for petilil.
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>>25772797

Just got it, thanks. I'm this guy >>25772646

You have eased my suffering somewhat. Will post pull after I'm done crying.
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>>25772797
Hey im 16 boxes in of sableyes and still no golden.... so there is suffering over here too.
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>>25772784
If you're willing to wait a month, M Alakazam's getting printed and it's probably going to be tiered, very viable.

engar fits as a secondary attacker in Trevenant, a Tier 1 deck. Vespiquen/Vileplume is a Tier 2 deck right now, very viable.
Golurk has a cute deck paired with Eons. Can one-shot anything.

I can post lists if you're interested.
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>>25771140

Im a collector, and I want to buy an Elite Trainer box when I get paid this weekend. what kind should I get? Ibwas originally leaning towards BreakPoint
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>>25772710

RICHFAGS SWEATING

ALL OLD PACKS EVENTUALLY ARE GONNA GET PUT ON HERE

GOLDEN ULTRA BALL GONNA COME DOWN TO A PRICE UNDER YOUR FIRST BORN

ITS

HAPPENING
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>>25772838
I'd like to look at them if you don't mind
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>>25772854
You do understand there's a reason why it's specifically Ultra Ball that's 200+ packs, right?
Why do you think all the other SRs and FAs aren't as expensive?
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>>25772874

...and?

not sure what your point is
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>>25772814
I nabbed this one
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>>25772886
Let me rephrase this
Most other BW SRs are under 10 packs each
Do you understand what that means?
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>>25772907

They aren't in rotation so they aren't as in-demand so they aren't as expensive.

And so I ask you again:

What is your point?
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>>25772927
Nevermind, good luck with your Ultra Balls.
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>BRs
I'd like to play a single thing online without these filthy subhumans for once
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So how's Legacy format?
Is it the diverse meta that Unlimited was supposed to be before Shiftry fucked that up? Or do we actually have a good mesh of XY and DP cards mixed together?

I'm inspired to play it after seeing a Dialga/Palkia LEGEND mill deck. Forcing your opponent to draw 20+ for game looks fun.
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This new wheel seems really generous. 3 games, 50 coins, 100 coins and 1 RS pack. Apparently there's a new wheel for tournaments as well, can anyone tell how that one works?
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My favorite thing is how I can't play Sacred Ash or Super Rod since it's always in my starting hand in every deck I play it, without fail. Removing them always helps my consistency against this client's awful RNG.
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>>25773259
3 games, 100 coins each for me
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Man I completely forgot how people built Virgen back in the day.

The deck is a hot mess right now but it's fun to play.
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Anyone else here a sucker for trade lots that give you a ton of cards for only a couple card packs?
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I know there isn't much good stuff to spend coins on, but if you had to say the single best pack on there what would it be? There is curently a bundle going for XY Primal Clash
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>>25772649

I have 4 in my deck.

2usefull
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Can I make a viable deck around Zapdos?
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>>25773462
>EX EX EX EX EX EX
Disgusting.
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>>25773578
For PTCGO? The playbase is so full of kids and shitters that any competently built deck is viable.
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>>25769666
>trips
>satan confirms pokemon tcg is love
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>>25773612
Seriously. They always play decks with no substance, they just use "the pwetty cards". I've only played versus a handful of times, but most of my opponents had decks with 4 colors.
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>>25773650
Depends on the time of the day. Whenever I play late at night almost all of my match ups are against meta decks
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So I'm new. What's with this full art card I got in a pack?
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>>25773739
You got a full art card from a pack.
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>>25773755
Neat. Is that common?
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>>25773772
Very
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>>25773772
>>25773798
Yes, but not really, they're rare from packs though.
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>download 100%
>click on play
>starts the game, but it opens the download screen again
>download it from scratch
>download 100%
>repeat
Am I missing something here?
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>>25773830
Control Panel > Uninstall a Program
Find PTCGO, and click "Change" and NOT "Uninstall"
In that window, uninstall it, then download a fresh installer from the website so you can reinstall.
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Did they add a new deck shuffle animation?

I know that's a seriously dull thing to ask but I want to make sure I'm not going crazy.
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>>25773849
http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/39848-235-patch-notes-march-30-2016/
Yes
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>>25773857
Nice, thanks.
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Just got restarted in this havent played since beta but I got some chest from 30 lightning sign thing from wins what is that and how do I open it
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>>25773864
At the top, there is an icon of polaroid pictures, click that, then collection, then packs.

The lightning sign is going towards the rewards at the bottom of the versus screen
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>>25773864
You need to collect five key fragments, then dust three cards to reforge them into a key to open a chest. Make sure the series correspond, or else it won't work.
Check your collection.
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I played for almost 4 hours today, winning most my games and only got about 100 lightning toawards my ladder, is it even possible to get 2000 in 20 days?
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>>25773920
>4 hours
whoa
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>>25773920
I got 2000 in two days
just stop being trash
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>>25773887
>>25773885
Hey this isnt league..... but thanks for the help!
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>>25773887
Losers use keys
real men use Miniclip Points
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legacy is the easiest format of all fucking time

although I'm guessing none of the people with the cards to do well in legacy are actually playing versus right now considering there are tournaments available for it
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>>25773987
Tournaments are 100% Plasma and Virizion-Genesect
Haven't run into anything else
or won
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>>25774028
>People complaining about current Standard get to learn what it was always like
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>>25773755

Kida sorta but not really.

Typicallyu, they're a variant of another card contained in the deck.

People use them for extra bling, and they're probably the most rare cards relative to the deck.

The pull rate for FAs in Generations is EXTREMELY high, however.
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>>25774028

time for the return of this cute motherfucker
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>Unlimited had more variety than Legacy
>Legacy is even more grind-friendly

Good work.
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>>25774397

Well it's a combination of practically nobody having any HGSS cards or even early era B&W. I might be more interesting if they somehow make them more accessible. CoL packs for the tournament is a good start.

Maybe if legacy versus gave you legacy specific cards as a reward it would be even better.
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>>25774428
>Maybe if legacy versus gave you legacy specific cards as a reward it would be even better.
Legacy tournaments give Legacy packs.
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>>25774397
I miss Unlimited :(
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>>25774451
It was unironically the most creative meta.
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>>25774449

Which I mentioned. But spending tickets for a chance to get some legacy specific is really awful, since tournaments don't have any kind of hidden mmr built in. They should do someone for versus.
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>>25772852
>>25772852
>>25772852

please respond
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>>25774464
Go to a card shop and get Phantom Forces if they have it. VS Seeker on its own is 10 bucks and you'll want 4 of them, assuming your rares all suck since ETBs aren't pull friendly.
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>>25774479

so buy Booster packs instead of ETBs then??? I think that might even be cheaper
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Btw I think all cards are going to soon going to be worth more packs since these mystery boxes are dropping tradeable packs now. So you can probably flip some cards soon.
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>>25774487
It's fine to buy an ETB for the tourney-legal dice and sleeves, pus a good box to store decks. But since you're getting packs either way better off to buy the one with the best bang for your buck.

Never buy packs unless you scale.
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>>25774518

may have already said this, but I'm strictly collector. Does that have any effect?
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>>25774523
Then you get nothing special out of an ETB but sleeves and dice. And energy.
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>>25774512

they always dropped tradable packs

maybe the frequency has been increased, but I doubt it will effect much
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Oh man this bundle is awful.
>second worst XY set, and 4 of them
>2 bad promos
>not even any sleeves or coins to compensate

You would think they'd put in HGSS cards.
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>>25774523
just get a booster box familia.

if you're just a collector, consider switching over to jap cards. 10x better quality.
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>>25774599

>$100+

I don't have that kind of fundage bro
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>>25774619
Then buy singles since unless you scale you're near guaranteed to waste money.
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>>25774619
why not just buy the singles of what you want then?
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>>25774455
My fav unlimited deck was carbink and staraptor, with hard charmed Bouffalant to tank while I prepped the other two.

I won so many matches by just shuffling people's megas back into their decks and never taking a prize card.

I can still use Staraptor/Bouff in legacy but it doesn't feel as satisfying.
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>>25773600
I remember when those EX's used to be good.
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>>25774599
>jap cards. 10x better quality.
But worth a lot less
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>>25774599
As a collector, I actually like to read what's on my cards, hence why I dislike jap cards.
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>>25774599
Are the newer jap cards much better than older jap cards?
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>>25774986
under what measure? they are almost all the exact same price, full arts are worth more in japanese though. the only thing that's really easier to get in japanese is the basic EX cards, megas are a lot more difficult to obtain.
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>>25775001
Also, card shops don't buy jap cards.
How are you going to make your money back?
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>>25775031
if you are selling cards to a card shop you are doing it wrong. they pay you 50% max. you'll have no problem selling jap cards full price on ebay.

>>25775001
odd reason, but ok.

>>25775009
define older. right now they are as good as they've ever been.
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>>25775031
I trade what's tradable. Haven't looked into selling all my dubes yet, but I know it'll be a loss overall (though I am lucky a friend of mine also collect and just give me his dubes, so I have more cards to trade/sell than I should based on my investments).

I should try to buy all singles for a set once and see how much that'd cost me. But then I don't get the rush of opening packs, which is something I still like and seek.
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