OLD THREAD:
>> 25720561
New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW (embed) (embed)
How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter standard/expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks
To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/
Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered, don't just post it as plain text because of bots lurking threads
Unless your old cards are coveted and in good condition, they are probably worthless.
ToTT: Do you have a Pokemon type that you favor over others?
>>25746042
And my pulls from the box.
I need 16 grass knockouts anon. Give me a grass mon to build a deck around.
>>25746042
I must be the only one who doesnt like the look of these BREAK cards
>>25746081
from standard.
>it's the 5ban Graphics card
>>25746127I-I will do better next time senpai
>>25746056
Thats from 36 boosters? Sucks.
>Playing with my Greninja Break deck in versus
>Opponent gets me down to Base set Greninja, he has 1 prize left
>I start pulling lucky as shit cards
>Evolve that nig to Greninja Break
>Wreck his shit
>Both down to 1 prize each
>His last pokemon is Staravia
>He concedes
That match was fucking awesome.
>>25746294
Yeah, wasn't a good time.
I've been reading a lot of interviews and tournament reports now that states have gone through.
I see a lot of people teching in things like 1-2 Toad to slow down Night March, etc. For example, a Pokebeach article has a player running 1x Seismitoad EX, writing:
>Seismitoad-EX improves the [Night March] matchup to just above a 50-50, or even higher if the opponent is not prepared to play against Item lock.
>Against Entei, a single Seismitoad-EX can halt their high count of Item and Tool cards such as Muscle Band and Assault Vest, while also hitting for Weakness.
But if you're only running one (1) Seismitoad, how is this consistent or realistic? What are the odds of ever actually getting your one (1) Toad within the first two or three turns of the match where it actually matters? A Turn 7 Toad is a joke.
And it's not just Toad, I see people running 1 or 2 copies of all sorts of techs. Sure, I understanding teching a Supporter like Xerosic or Center Lady since VS Seeker exists, but how do you consistently get your 1x Muscle Band? Or that 1x Flash Energy? These decks aren't running Puzzle or Teammates, and even if they were it wouldn't really make it magically consistent.
What don't I understand here? These decks are winning tournaments so obviously they're not wrong, but can someone explain?
Currently working on a fairy deck.
What else should I get beyond at least 1 more M-Garde, Xerneas and some more Slurpuff?
>>25746430
>What else should I get
A basic notion on how to build a working deck
This isn't Magic, and types aren't archtypes like in YGO. Don't build around color, build around a specific Pokemon.
I'm building around M-Garde, but I found Whimsicott, Slurpuff and Xerneas useful. Also I don't have any Shaymins.
>>25746430
This would be Ok if it was Base Set. As in, 1999 base set.
Like >>25746466 said, build your deck around a gimmick, like Night March or Greninja Break. You need good card synergy, good draw power, and also just use the cards you need. Don't fill up your deck with useless crap. Just build a deck, do a couple of matches with it, change stuff you think needs to be changed and before you know it you will have a decent deck that doesnt get blown the fuck up after 3 turns.
>>25746430
Aromatisse bro.
2-2 Aromatisse
3 or 4 Xerneas Geomancy
3-3 MGard.
Cut the rest.
>>25746430
![aromatisse-xy-93-ptcgo-1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VufVmk1.png "aromatisse-xy-93-ptcgo-1[1].png")
Why is the wording so strange on Aromatisse?
Why doesn't it say 'As often as you like during your turn (before your attack) you may move any number of fairy energy from any of your pokemon to another of your pokemon'
I've always thought the wording is just so strange. Any mechanical reason for the wording?
>>25747283
well the singularity in the original wording helps prevent you from being a mega retard and moving more than one double dragon/wonder energy from a dragon/fairy pokemon to a non dragon/fairy pokemon
otherwise I'm not sure
>>25747283
It doesn't seem strange to me. It just means that you can use the ability as many times as you want to move as many fairy energies as you want during your turn.
How would you word it?
>>25747283
there's nothing wrong with it senpaitachi.
>>25746056
I would cry if that's what I got.
>>25746321
>both on our last prize card
>I have 10HP left
>Can't do enough damage to win
>pull a stage 2
>evolve and attack in the blink of an eye
>win
He knocked out 4 mon in a row prior while I was able to do fuckall. Felt so good
Not trying to be a gewunner but when did we go from Legandary Promos to commons with a logo in the corner?
>>25746347
Wow . . . $90 for $30-40 worth of pulls. What were you hoping for?
One- and three-pack US blister promos for XY10 have been revealed.
Three-pack:
Vivillon – Grass – HP120
Stage 2 – Evolves from Spwepa
[C] Dizzying Poison: Your opponent’s Active Pokemon is now Confused and Poisoned.
[G] Powder: 30+ damage. This attack does 30 more damage for each [R] Energy attached to your opponent’s Active Pokemon.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
The other three-pack promo is a holo reprint of BP Froakie.
The one-pack promos are holo reprints of BT Gastly and BT Pansear.
So we get a shitty Vivillon and three nfe basic reprints.
>>25747696
Do you have any idea how many promo commons we got back then?
I'm sure the ratio is in favor of legendaries now thanks to blisters and boxset promos.
>>25747740
When? I want a Holo Frog for muh deck.
>tfw now that you are old you can actually afford the cards and build a good deck
>tfw all people play nowadays is Yugi and Magic.
FUCK
there's a league 10 miles from my house, and its a nice place, but they only hold Pokemon events on Sundays, and not many people attend.
>>25747851
Launch date for pack.
Online, first two weeks of launch.
>>25747872
>May 4th
Dang. I'll start saving for a box.
>>25747696
1999
>>25747916
We got a ton of Meowth promos, but that's Jungle set.
Jungle set with an unofficial puke colored border.
>>25746042
How did you guys get all the cards you wanted in tgco? I keep buying packs but I rarely get the cards I want for a deck.
>>25747948
>opening packs
lol
>>25747696
Commons with Event/Store/Whatever Logos in the corner has been a thing since the game came out in English, clearly you are not a proper genwunner if you don't know about the WotC Stamped cards
>>25747740
>Useless blister promos
>They are actual XY Promos which means I will have to buy them due to my completionist autism
fuckdamnshitcunts.jpg
>>25747942
I think that's the giveaway card from Fruit Roll Ups ages ago
>>25747948
Trade the packs for the cards you want.You nincompoop.
>>25747723
I wasn't hoping for much. I just collect. I love full arts, so the two I got was nice. I'm going to buy a box every two weeks.
>>25748651
It might sound like a lot, every two weeks, but you probably live with your parents while going to college, and have a part time.
That or you have a good job.
What were the T1 decks when the Rocket set came out? What were the T1 decks when Skyridge came out? I was too young at the time and only played theme decks
if I attach a double dragon energy to the dragon type Ray, but evolve it to the colorless mega fug, what happens to those energies?
>>25748939
It gets discarded since the Pokemon it is attached to is no longer Dragon type
>>25747740
English triple packs comes with a coin? How much does it usually cost?
>>25749066
They are normally 12$.
It took a lot of work, but I finally have 4 Yveltal.
where 2 cop japanese generations decks online with international shipping?
How many packs do I need for a trade?
>>25747916
>tfw I just found my gold border Meowth this weekend
Neat
>>25749489
>>25747916
I had no idea this was a thing, even when it came out.
I kinda really want it.
Is ho-oh/manectric any decent? Or any other ho-oh variations for that matter. I just want something different i guess.
>>25749525
What I really want to find is my Cool Porygon, no idea where he could be
so im about to buy a theme deck on ptcgo
which should i go for?
this is my first deck btw
>>25749564
I wanted that for ages. I keep prioitizing completing sets over getting promos though.
Thankfully it's cheap. Hopefully I find it at a yardsale like I did with a few other promos yesterday
>>25749590
Dark Hammer
I'm working with what I got, but r8 my deck
>>25749590
Dark Hammer
>>25749590
Most people recommend not buying a theme deck and just using the basic ones you are given. If you really want to then people tend to recommend Dark Hammer.
>>25749643
lol
>>25749643
>no max potion
0/10
>>25749648
i was kinda in the mood to buy a new theme for the purpose of atleast something better to progress in themes versus.
so besides those 2 ideas is there a better option?
>>25749656
I'm looking for one right now. How much do those cost?
>>25749665
Nope
The next best thing is Explosive Edge, but good luck getting that.
>>25749670
Less than a pack
>>25749682
really? Damn I need to get one of those.
>>25749670
You can get 16+ for a pack, why are you even asking
>>25747723
At first I was surprised at $90 then I realized I live in Canada, and a booster box up here is $160 after tax. Honestly I would be more mad, but once Trump wins and ruins America, our dollar won't be such shit.
>>25749369
Not a bad deal desu. 1 dollar for the coin, 2 for the promo, and then 3 each pack.
is there a way to trade tourney tickets?
>>25749828
Considering that individual booster packs are 4$ here it is a good deal. Essentially get the promo and coin for free.
The 3 pack blisters with the pin in them are 15$, so getting the pin for 3$
Im just collector... would it be worth it keeping the shiny Target Magikarp card?
Any M-Latios EX bats out there?
I'm starting up the online tcg
If anyone has like 3 zubat cards from Phantom Forces just to give to me I'd appreciate it
>playing CPU
>start game
>not paying attention and look away
>look up
>"VICTORY"
>wat
turns out the cpu was retarded. All they had was a Golett and they got to go first. pic related
>tfw you destroy an EX only deck with G-Break
I'm kind of new to the tcg but I want to know how do i go from practice to ranked? From what I read it said that I can change the mode from practice to ranked in the options but I can't see it anywhere.
Post pull and I'll show the other codes I got.
>>25750817
>expecting good natured people to redeem your codes
lmao
>>25750817
I would but it's already claimed.
>>25750817
>was going to post pics
>claimed when i tried like 5-6 minutes ago
>>25748022
How do I get tradable packs then?
-deep breath-
>>25751292
I fucking hate that shit.
>>25751292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiP9Bhha0-4
>>25751309
Just play trev break
>>25751513
I hate that shit even more, fuck you nigger.
>>25746361
it's simple. play the card when the matchup calls for it, discard it when it don't. trainer techs are easy. with trainers mail, ultra ball, vs seeker etc its not hard to hit those 1 ofs at all. unless its prized, it can come in handy. sometimes one good turn is all you need to put the odds in your favor.
>>25748744
rocket was probably still Haymaker. except now with Dark plume
Skyridge had shit like Scizor Furret decks or whatever. seems like a slow n dull meta. ninetales blaziken was a thing when rs had just came out.
>>25751685
>play the card when the matchup calls for it
Yes, let me magically get my 1x Toad and DCE in hand within the first two turns. Toad decks in their prime that ran 4x of the fucker still occasionally missed that T1 lock. Not to mention shit like actually getting it into the active.
How often are you going to pull that T1 1x Toad + DCE against NM?
>>25751767
Go into game and figure it out. It ain't rocket science.
>>25751660
Then play yveltal variants, and play 4 baby yveltals , it's the real nightmare for nightmarchand some megaphones too
>>25751767
I guess get lucky? if its important enough compressor the fuck out of everything else and better your odds. usually a combination of shaybae, Switch/float stone, 4 ultra balls, comp search in expanded, and a sycamore can do it. theres no way to never wiff.u could also bc ur toad n a DCe then Puzzle for the two cards.
>>25751818
I also hate Yveltal
>>25751855
aegislash?
Mienshao?
I can't think in any other diffcult match for night march
>>25751877
>aegislash?
>Mienshao?
I hate those too
I was wondering about rulings on 2 older cards. Does Base Set Ditto get the attacks of the defending pokemon he copies? Also, if you chose to knock out Best Set Electrode with his Pokemon Power, does your opponent take a prize card?
>>25751913
Yes for both answersand there was no Base Set Ditto, only Fossil
garchomp can do ok against night march with a well timed rachi special discard. usually good idea when ur opponents hand is small. Raikou does well if u can keep ur shaymins off the bench. run a zekrom in expanded so they need more discards to kill. run mega 240hp shit. hard for NM to hit those numbers without running out of resources. just some ideas I ain't no Jason K
>>25751938
Thank you! It's been awhile sense I played with the older cards. The Fossil one was the Ditto I meant.
>>25751877
Focus sash garchomp/hawlucha
When the fuck are we getting bodyguard Marowak, fuck.
>>25750911
>>25750922
>>25750937
No pull, no codes.
>>25752135
Code while you wait?
>>25752223
jfc u kids r fast
>>25752223
Guess my favorite Pokémon and I'll post 2 codes.
Hint: it's not Jackie Chan
>>25752275
Everyone's favorite is Gourgeist.
>playing casual theme tournament
>opponent flips head on para NINE times in a row
>still win anyway
>>25752275
pikajew
>>25752297
Close
>>25752284
Also close
>>25752275
Doesn't matter what you had in mind, because if your favorite pokemon isn't Starmie you're wrong anyway.
>>25752357It's not
>>25752275
>it's not Jackie ChanHitmonchan
>>25752304
What the fuck is close to both Pikachu and Gourgeist?
Furret?
>>25752275
Is it a Ghost?
>>25752275
What's the point of posting them? Why not send them to the person who gets it right?
>>25752384
FUCK
Okay here. I have no more codes I swear!
>>25752436
I dunno. It's funnier that way.
>>25752437
>>25752437
Thanks a million!
1/4
>>25752495
2/4
>>25752506
3/4
Here's where shit gets real.
>>25752495
>dat Seviper
Kekles
I got like, 4 of those when I bought the physical package. I'm using one as a neat coaster.
>>25752523
4/4
And to round it off, Muk is one of my favorite Pokemon! Thanks again, kind anon! You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>25752541
>>25752523
>>25752506
>>25752495
>not a single camel
I'm so sorry.
>>25752540
>>25752556
I just started playing not too long ago so I'm still filling out my collection.
>>25752611
Oh you are? Well thanks for showing the pulls man! As reward for being a cool anon, I have one more code for you! That'll teach the rest of yas to be generous and post some fuckin PULLS.
Uhh.. do you have like an email or someshit?
>>25752664
Yes I do!
>>25752680
Fug. Did they take out e-mails in the options menu?
My PTCGO name is Owlfest.
>>25752701
How do I send shit to PTCGO? I don't even have it installed. Aw nevermind.
Anyway, enjoy your new slew of qt magma and aqua grunt cards. My favorite is Muk.I think you know why.
>>25752802
No, don't share your email on 4chan! Weirdos might use it to spam your inbox with dick pics.
>>25752854
Too late
>>25752946
DICK PICS INCOMING!!
Is pic related good enough to base a deck around? Seems pretty lackluster.
Does anyone play forfun?
or is everyone a tryhard online?
from reading a few posts in the thread it seems to be the latter
>>25753020
Absolute garbage. 120 for 3 energy, even if one of them is DDE, is way below par. However, when pic related comes out, it may be possible to build a deck around it. And yes, there is a Spirit Link.
M Garchomp-EX – Dragon – HP210
Mega Evolution – Evolves from Garchomp-EX
When 1 of your Pokemon becomes a Mega Evolution, your turn ends.
[W][F][F][C] Crimson Edge: 180 damage. This Pokémon does 10 damage times the number of damage counters on it to itself.
When a Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fairy (x2)
Resistance:
Retreat:
>>25753020
>>25753146
Even then this is the Garchomp people will be using.
>>25753215
The sole criterion was "can you build a deck around this," not, "can you build a competitively viable deck around this."
is trading a manaphy EX for 1 XYbeakpoint a good deal?
>tfw opponent was had advantage, was running night march, and I won
Baby Yveltal is too fucking stronk. Killing the night march crew with 1 energy, and OHKOing Vesp while getting heads on all coin flips. It's like RNGesus himself was smiting that shitter deck.
>>25751236
read the op
>About to win
>Connection error
>Doing well
>Connection error
WHY
anyone playing this AND Hearthstone? After some shitty losses in ptcgo, I did some Hearthstone matches (just classic cards since I haven't bought any expansions). It was a breath of fresh air.
I just got into PTCGO. Are there any formats with a blanket ban on EX cards? I fucking hate seeing them.
>>25755376
3 options
A. Play EX
B. Play EX-Hate cards
C. Find online friends who play Non-EX decks
>>25755393
I wonder why they didn't keep it so Ex cards that were part of an evolution family have to evolve. It's weird for stage 2 mons to be basic.
>>25755425
Because they were originally just legendaries but decided to extend the mechanic to non legendaries. Figuring no one would use them if they were harder to set up they just made them basic and called it a day.
>go to GAME to pick up the promo Pikachu
>have to buy any pokemon product
>decide to pick up one breakpoint booster
>pull this
Wew
>>25755376
You could always just get good and realize they're not really that big of a "problem"
>>25755393
>B. Play EX-Hate cards
The only EX "hate" cards are Regice and...it's really just Regice, and Regice isn't popular right now. No one's running fucking Safeguard Beautifly.
The non-EX decks that top don't have EX hate at all, they're just naturally good.
>>25755595
Wouldn't Garchomp count as EX-hate?
>>25755585
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>25755800I got Gyrados EX and FA M Gyrados + Spirit Link in my first two packs during the prerelease
Hey guys, I just started playing recently and I am building up a water/electric deck to play against a friend. I dont need to be amazing, but I was wondering what some staples to go for?
The main lines I am focusing on are shinx, greninja, and walrein.
Also kyogre or suicune?
Thanks in advance. sorry for being a noob.
>>25755393
D. Night March
>>25755595
What is FF Pyroar
Safeguard Sigilyph
Aromatisse w/ dizzying cologne
Fighting stadium
Regirock
Registeel
BP garchomp
Plus more im sure i havent remembered or seen.
>>25755859
>I am building up a water/electric deck
Ok, stop right there.
NEVER build a deck around a type, that is the number one mistake new players make. Build the deck around your best card and cards that support it.
>>25755931
hmmm... so i dont know what by best card is. I have Walrein who I like quite a bit, kyogre and suicune, greninja, Shinx, and electivire (who I dont care for as much). Are any of these cards worth a damn?
My friend has garchomp (the EX killing one that only takes likes 1 energy) Trevenent (the one that makes basics pay extra energy to attack) and Aegislash. What would you recommend he focuses down on?
>>25755926
>Garchomp has a 0.94% WR with all of two Top 8s
>The best Fighting deck in the format has a 0.47% and exactly 1 Top 8
>Every other card you listed might as well not exist
>Meanwhile, SIX out of the eleven best decks in the format aren't EX decks AND don't run "EX-hate"
???
I legitimately don't understand why new players hate EX as a concept. Do they think rare = good? Are they mad they can't afford cards that are marginally more expensive than the rest? There's no logic.
>tfw have more fun playing theme than standard and expanded
I might actually just keep buying theme decks with my tokens even though they suck
>>25755963
All of those cards are garbage, do not run them. Instead here is a list of good Electric and Water Pokemon:
As for Electric, you have Raikou from BREAKthrough, Jolteon EX and Pikachu EX which have synergy with other Electric types like Eelektrik from Noble Victories (expanded) and Magnezone from BREAKthrough (standard).
You also have Raichu from XY/Generations that is Electric but only uses colorless energy so you could mix it with other Pokemon that do require specific energies.
Lastly, and this may be more up your ally, you have M-Manectrix EX, which can be mixed with Water Pokemon because its attack allows you to accelerate any type of basic energy onto your benched Pokemon. And then you can run Rough Seas which allows you to heal 30 from all your Water and Electric Pokemon.
As for the best Water Pokemon to pair with M-Manectric, you have Suicune from Plasma Blast (expanded) or Regice from Ancient Origins (standard), as well as Seismitoad EX.
Greninja from XY and BREAKpoint can also be its own deck by itself.
>>25755999
I would like theme more if the theme decks were at least mildly competitive in how they're built.
Every other card game has theme decks that come with multiple staples and ratios that you'd see in an actual standard deck. The decks are good enough that you can buy three or four of them, slap them together, and win a locals with them against actual meta.
Meanwhile, Pokemon decks are unironically running 20 energies and a pair of Potions.
>>25756023
What is the preferred numbers of energies?
>>25756038
An overwhelming majority of decks run 4-8 energies.
Some special cases might run as many as 12. I've never seen a deck with more than that.
>>25756006
>M-Manectrix EX
That sounds like a fuckin plan. I already have the manectrix line, and like them. Alright, besides rough seas, do you have any other recommendations for trainer cards?
>>25756047
That seems so lean. How do they not get energy screwed? what if two of them get trapped as prize cards? do you just have to run 4x prof letter?
>>25756064
>do you just have to run 4x prof letter?
lol
No, actual decks have enough draw support to guarantee you get what you need. Between Sycamore, Birch, Shauna, N, Colress, Teammates, Acro Bike, Trainers' Mail, VS Seeker, Shaymin, Battle Compressor, and so on, it would be really difficult NOT to get one of your 8 energies. Standard decks go through half their deck on the first turn.
If you haven't figured it out, there's no reason in ever having more than one energy in your hand at a time, since you can only attach one per turn. Having two energies in hand means you have at least one dead card.
Of course, running 8 energies would never work in theme, because TPL's idea of a draw engine is a single Tierno and a Great Ball.
>>25754229
I like this post
>>25756091
competitive pokemon literally sounds no fun. This post has been the biggest turn off.
>>25756064
Draw more cards. Then draw some more. I do usually run one Letter.
>>25756047
I ran 14 in my Blastoise back in the day, but that is definitely a special case.
>>25756049
Here's an older list you might find helpful.
http://www.propokemon.com/partnering-mega-manectric-with-regice-standard/
>>25756064
If you don't believe me:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-one/
Here are eight decks that won their respective state championships last week. You can use the dropdown up top to switch between them.
The only exceptions are the Sceptile deck, since Sceptile relies on having lots of energies in hand, the Ho-oh deck that needs to run four different energy types, and the Yveltal deck that needs to hit Max Elixer.
>>25756104
What doesn't sound fun about that?
Unlike in theme, you can consistently play the cards and combos you put together in your deck, because you can actually draw into them. The game becomes less "let's pray I topdeck part of what I need" and more "let me actually play a game against my opponent instead of draw RNG".
>>25756104
Yeah, it's basically a handful of the most broken pokemon you can find , a handful of energies including DCEs and just stuff your deck with draw engines so you can get your broken shit before your opponent gets his broken shit.
>>25756165
>broken
By any chance, by "broken" do you mean "something I don't like"?
>>25756123
>What doesn't sound fun about that?
Im coming from two other TCGs that have this same problem, where turns end up being playing 6 cards that all let you draw and toolbox and so forth, tossing the pace of the game out the window. I was hoping pokemon would be a basic and slow paced game for the most part. but this is no different than Yu-gi-oh vanguard MTG stuff. Not making fun of you, but this might not be for me. im bailing out back to wargames.
>>25756165
It's almost like people want to win
>>25756183
it's almost like the meta has no variety at all and is stale as fuck
>>25756165
>so you can get your broken shit before your opponent gets his broken shit.
Every card game is like this, but out of all the one's I played. Pokemon is more base on luck then any other.
Just believe in the heart of the cards.
>>25756178
I really don't get it. What's wrong with drawing a lot of cards? What's wrong with getting to actually play your deck, or play against your opponent?
It sounds like you want to play some RNG simulator, where the point is to see what card you draw into every turn instead of actually formulating a strategy and outplaying your opponent. As opposed to actually having options and plays in your hand.Try Hearthstone. I'm serious.
>>25756197
I could've told you that five years ago
>>25756174
>by "broken" do you mean "something I don't like"?
Every game we play, like video games and card games, all have a broken card.
Once someone finds a new broken strategy, everyone will play that one.
But really, if you play your cards right, you can beat any deck, if done right.
Alot of people don't like EX cards because they are broken, and also pricy.
But what fun would it be, if they didn't have super rare cards, that has crazy power.
>>25756222
>Alot of people don't like EX cards because they are broken, and also pricy.
Thank you for confirming what you really meant.
EX Pokemon haven't won a majority of Standard tournaments since the rotation. This whole meta is NM vs Trev vs Greninja vs Vespiquen/Vileplume.
You have Yveltal and Manectric splashed in there, but that's it. EX is old hat and will probably be irrelevant come the next rotation.
You're right, though. Every card game DOES have something in common. It's not "broken" shit, though; it's players that prefer to complain instead of actually play the game, who like to scapegoat a mechanic or a deck instead of blaming themselves.
>>25756243
I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume the EX mechanic is completely dead come rotation. But yes your point about EX's no longer being the end-all be-all is correct.
>>25756209
I think the problem for me is that there's very little back and forth between the players in this type of deck, especially in Pokemon where you can't do anything in your opponents turn besides watch.
>>25756243
>EX is old hat and will probably be irrelevant come the next rotation.
If they do get rid of EX cards, I hope they still make FA cards.
>>25756222
>also pricy
I fucking WISH all my other hobbies were as "pricy" as this TCG. I'd save literally hundreds each month.
>>25756291
>spending hundreds on a hobby monthly
what the fuck do you do?
>>25756307
He plays literally any other TCG, where YGO/Magic/Vanguard decks cost $300+ for the skeleton and rotate out every half year.
Pokemon players have no clue how lucky they have it. You can build an entire meta Pokemon deck for the price of a single card in other TCGs.
>>25756307
Magic The Gathering, Comic Books, Video Games, Figure collecting
Old shit is fucking expensive
>>25756313
>Used to play YGO years ago
>Built/sold meta deck for $1.2k
Ah...the good old Dark Arms day
>>25756209
you are by far missing the point. When a game REQUIRES you to play with extreme draw power and only use a handful of cards, thats when it becomes less about MY deck, and more about the deck I am running. Do you understand what I am saying here?Also dont hit me with that shit like I have to lean on RNGs, im a fucking state level SFIV and SFV player, nigga I come from a world where everything is calculated and there is NO random number generators. in 2013 I was in one of the top 18 teams in halo 4 for the MLG tour
![IMG_20160329_110408[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WbuPOzK.jpg "IMG_20160329_110408[1].jpg")
What is the most edgiest card in Pokemon
Got lucky today, and pull a Hoopa EX and Darkrai EX for random booster packs from GameStop.
![20160310_162505~2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nKSLQwX.jpg "20160310_162505~2[1].jpg")
>>25756291
>I'd save literally hundreds each month
Are you me?
>All the card shop in my area over pay for Pokemon EX cards
>Got a shit ton of EX cards from when I used to work in shit hole Walmart and got a bunch of them free
>Went to the card shop the other day
>made $500 bucks on 200 EX cards
And I still got a shit ton more to sell, but I drain all the money that card shop had.
>>25756346
>thats when it becomes less about MY deck, and more about the deck I am running
I legitimately don't understand. Draw cards in a Standard deck take up no more than, what, 8-16 cards in the deck? In Pokemon, that leaves you with 44 other cards to customize and build the way you want. Run your favorite Pokemon line, run some trainers and techs that you think are good, whatever you want. Draw power just lets you access what you need, when you need it, letting you actually express yourself and the theme of your deck instead of praying to the RNG and hoping you actually get to play what you built.
>Also dont hit me with that shit like I have to lean on RNGs
I didn't mean you specifically, I meant decks that don't run draw or toolbox options like in theme format. If you're not drawing a surplus of cards, or if you're not searching out the cards you need...how are you getting your cards in your hand? You're just topdecking, which is pure RNG. "Oh, I luckily drew into the energy I needed this turn", etc.
>when you're doing really well but just dont have any pokemon coming through to your bench so you end up losing almost by default
![IMG_20160323_175811[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/as7a8PP.jpg "IMG_20160323_175811[1].jpg")
>>25756318
>Video Games, Figure collecting
These are also my weakness that goes with my Pokemon card hobby.
Since my ex left, I have more money to spend on me.
>>25756347
>What is the most edgiest card in Pokemon
This
>>25756318
those shelves look flimsy as fuck
>>25756409
Do they have a FA of this card.
Please tell me they do
>>25756364
Wait, is the version from fossil usable in standard now?
>>25756370
Sorry if I got a bit agitated anon, thanks for keeping a cool head. Yeah, I see what you are saying. For draw power in standard what do you recommend?
>>25756448
>Wait, is the version from fossil usable in standard now?
I don't see why not,they're both the same card.
>>25756448
Technically you can, BUT you still need the newest version as reference since the original Fossil version can retrieve any Trainer (since there were no Supporter back then and Item didn't exist until BW) while the new one can only retrieve Items
>>25756364
>Fossil weighs 79lb
>Generations weighs 79.4lb
For what purpose?
>>25756467
Acro Bike
Trainer's Mail
Sycamore
Shaymin EX
And if you really need more draw power, you can use Birch's Observations, Shauna and Roller Skates.
>>25756677
>Roller Skates
Tell me about this card and why it is good.
>>25756614
It's a more accurate conversion from 36 kg.
>>25756762
It's not good. It's bottom of the barrel playable. Only play it if you've exhausted every other form of draw support.
>>25756347
>What is the most edgiest card in Pokemon
CRAWLING IN MY SKINNNNN
In case no one noticed, both Random Receiver and Scorched Earth are getting reprinted in XY10.
Other reprints include N, Ultra Ball, Sycamore, Shauna, Fairy Garden, Pokemon Catcher, Tierno, Fan Club, Switch, and Strong Energy.
any chance someone have a spare trev BREAK ? i have a few EXs to trade and little packs but it would be much appreciated
>>25758024
>had two full art N's
>sold them thinking I would never play them again because I wasn't planning on attending winter/spring regionals and why the fuck would it get reprinted
>N reprint announced
>rush to card store I sold them too
>hadn't update the prices yet
>bought back my two N's for $25 a piece
>now they go for $50 a piece
>mfw no face
>New to tgc, I really only like looking at the card art and collecting
>However, I am interested in learning the rules and learning how the metagame has evolved
What are the rules regarding using older cards from early sets? I understand that most early cards are completely unviable simply due to the power creep. But let's say there is a good card from an early set, can it be used?
Are there cards from early sets that are still used competitively?
Also, when did the power creep occur? Was it slow and gradual? Or was there just a new set of cards that came out that took shit from 0-100?
The Wizards of the Coast really shot themselves in the foot when they made cards with such a low amount of HP and damage, Nintendo rectified that it seems...
>>25758024
>ultra ball will literally never rotate out of the format
>you will always look poor with those non-golden balls
>>25758024
Well, to be more precise those are from the M Audino and Zygarde decks so reprints in English are not guaranteed just like what happened with VS Seeker from the Palkia EX + Golduck BREAK deck from last time
So ive got 2 questions.
Do i need up to date energy, and if i have a card from an older set that got reprinted, do I have to get the new version or can i keep the older one? do people check?
>>25758149
A reprint increases the value of the original card?
I would have thought the opposite to be the case.
>>25758212
Basic Energies are universal, for older cards being reprinted you might as well use the newest version since some of them might have their effects changed
>>25758222
In the case of cards having Full Art / Secret Rare variants yes since this means it will be legal in Standard as well
>>25758222
Since there's no new full art, the original Noble Victory full art is the only one. And now it's going to be relevant again for at least a year, on top of the fact that it's old as dirt and therefore harder to get, it's sought after - making it more expensive.
>>25758149
>Inb4 they reprint all the trainer with FA
Time to stock up on playsets
Also, Sycamore FA when
>>25758238
>>25758245
Ah, fair enough.
>>25758238
>>25758212
>tfw recently got a handfull of HGSS energies and a few Holon Phantoms holo energies
Idk why the HGSS ones are more popular when the Holon Phantoms energies are sick as fuck
>>25758159
>>25758024
I fucking need 4 SR Ultra Balls. I want to bling the shit out of my deck.
What are other future-proof FAs and secret rares?
>>25758467
Because HGSS one at least has Darkness and Metal since those two types didn't have a basic version until Diamond and Pearl and Call of Legends have foil version of said HGSS energies
>What are other future-proof FAs and secret rares?
So far only Ultra Ball is future-proof enough, if it isn't for the fact that PCL no longer make SR Items, they should troll the shit out of people by printing a XY Version of SR Ultra Ball
>>25758467
Maybe VS Seeker?
I have a crap load of these Pokemon TCG Online code things, do they expire? if not I could dump a bunch here.
>>25758728
I don't think so
>>25758728
they don't please dump
>>25758728
If you post the codes hide the QR code. Otherwise someone will snipe them all.
fixed my deck thanks to you guys. Here's the updated version
Are you happy now max potion bro?
>>25758848
I'm new to the game, what's the full art supporter that's first on the second row?
>>25758865
>>25758892
thank you, anon.
>>25758917
no problem. I just use it as an easy gardevoir pickup.
>>25758848
I don't know what Whisicott does, but doesn't the Slurpuff that lets you draw an extra card per turn better?
>>25758941
Don't get baited into running a specific support Pokemon just because the color matches.
>>25758941
Whimsicott is the one that moves all the damage counters from one of your Benched Pokemon to your opponent's Active Pokemon,which is actually kind of useless since you don't have ways to reliably move damage around
>2016
>Still doesn't understand the utility of Aromatisse + Max Potion
Mind you it still won't help much since 210 HP is still OHKO range for quite a few things
>>25758941
>someone beats up gardevoir.
>free retreat from fairy garden
>switch into whimsicott
>massive erection ensues.
>>25758985
>>25758999
yeah, just checked the card, I thought it was some kind of status condition move. Itis pretty good in most matches.
>>25758848
Maybe Hex Maniac over Ace Trainer, because Ace Trainer means Whimsicott is useless whereas Hex can prevent oneshots.
What kind of degenerate plays Pokemon League energy?
>>25758747
>>25758780
>>25758829
Alright give me a moment to find them all, they're all over my house in different tins
>>25759054
I like holo energies. ok? and I might replace them with hex manic, yeah. I've been thinking about that, but I use ace trainer often.
Okay, what's the best way of doing this? I have 13 codes and I don't want them all going to one greedy anon
>>25759225
Post a picture of each of them at an interval you choose...or at random. And from there onwards its everybody's luck or skill
>>25759225
>I don't want them all going to one greedy anon
Censor the last letter of the code
>>25759225
Also, cover the qrcode.
>>25759244
Do you really want to go through the whole alphabet, just to find out someone had already redeemed it?
>>25759225
post 4 codes at a time so slower typers also have a chance.
>>25759225
Question anon are the cards or packs you get from codes random or do you get the same cards you got from your pack?
>>25759281
Cards are random.
>>25759279
He is right with the alphabet...i certainly wouldn't want to go through it just to find that is was redeemed
>>25759243
>>25759244
>>25759265
>>25759279
I think I'll have some fun, I'll draw some pokemon and put the codes on the drawings. That way the interval is how long it takes for me to draw whatever.
>>25759281
I don't know, is there a way to see?
If this takes too long I'll put two or three at a time
>>25759433
That "D"...i will be haunted by it forever. Nice drawing though
>>25759433
missed it, but the drawing is awesome
>>25759462
I'll use the text tool from now on! Sorry!
>>25759557
fuck, someone is fast
>>25759557
Now i saw the (you) and got distracted by it...one second late.
this should be illegal
