Discuss about Christmas and qt puppets here.
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If it has letters messed up, you'll need to download locale emulator(Sometimes just changing the applocale works, but not always):
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Puppetdex, can't open online, use a spreadsheet viewer:
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Temporary Wiki: http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Main_Page
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Trailer for the new expansion (released next commiket): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5N0_paQME
Next Nico Nico Douga Broadcast Link: http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv246439828
>Saturday, Dec 26th at 21:00 JST
>7:00 AM for those in the East Coast / EST
>4:00 AM in the West Coast / PST
>(Goes live 3 minutes before 21:00 JST)
I guess we're kill for christmas.
I wish someone would host.
>>>/jp/
Go the fuck back where you all belong.
>>24884740
You mad fag?
>tfw you're autistically grinding a team up for online but the weight of a new version to re-grind up on is weighing down on you
>>24884740
Touhoumon is as much a Pokémon-based discussion as any other ROMhacks or fangames, unless you want to ban all those. Merry Christmas.
>>24884804
Reminder that the expansion is going to finally give us more good nether types with actual access to the good nether moves and that we'll have a gen 5 dragon situation on our hands
>>24884852
Yeah, sure, that's why two types will resist it. Call me when we get a nether outrage/draco meteor or at least a better distributed starving spirit.
>>24884882
Nether is resisted only by Light and is SE against only itself.
Best starter touhou?
>>24884901
Sound will resist nether in the expansion.
>>24884905
Reimu or Sukuna
>>24884905
The one you love most.
>>24884914
But she sucks and there's several favorites that share the same typing as her.
>>24884852
There won't be.
Gen 5 dragon dominance was a combination of the sheer stat advantage the various dragons had over the opposition (the dragon-types in OU were usually BST 600 and in one case BST 700), the ubiquity of the good dragon type moves (Draco Meteor could be taught to literally any dragon type and Outrage was a move tutor), dragons only having a single weakness (i.e. Ice, and Ice is such a godawful typing to actually have that the aforementioned BST 700 was in OU rather than Ubers), and the fact that only one type resisted it (i.e. Steel, and almost every single dragon got access to Fire Blast and/or Earthquake to handle those).
Nether types do not have that stat advantage over other puppets (the highest BST of any nether puppet is EikiD at 550, who is defensively oriented anyways; the very good MimaP and YuyukoP sit at 540 but have poor speed), their good moves do not have widespread availability at all (Midnight Apparition is available on only 5 puppets and Starving Spirit is available on only 3, with the next best option being BP 80 in the latter case and the next-best being BP 75), and the fact that Nether has more weaknesses than Gen 5 dragon did (it's weak to itself, Light, and Dark; note the one type that resists it is also SE against it).
There are other reasons (such as how Dragons were fast, bulky, AND hard-hitting whereas nether-types are 2/3 of those at best, a side effect of not having BST 600s everywhere with the typing because hemo apparently knows how to balance better than GF), but regardless, there won't be a Gen 5 Dragon situation.
Because in the expansion, Sound now resists Nether in addition to Light. It won't hit for SE back, but Nether now is resisted by 2 types rather than just one.
>>24884907
>>24884923
Literally why
>>24884909
Don't go with Sukuna because she would be one of the first wild dolls that you would be able to find
>>24884909
Sukuna is found on Route 1. Reimu isn't available until lategame.
>>24884937
Then who should I go with?
merry christmas
>>24884943
Elis, Shinki, Yumeko, Yuka and Reimu (like the other guy said)
>>24884448
Was going to use this picture for the OP, but the shitposting from earlier managed to kill off the last thread very quickly.
Happy Holidays, everybody.
>>24884978
Now that's effort.
>>24884978
Merry Christmas.
>>24884978
What? But anon, the last thread didn't have shitposting at the end.
>>24885245
Garyposting threads shoved the last thread off of page 10.
>>24885247
What? I was busy with christmas stuff, what happened at /vp/ some hours ago?
I'm only at the forest of magic, but I want to ultimately build a team out of my favorites; of the following, what makes up the best team for netplay?In no particular order: Sakuya, Patchouli, Youmu, Ran, Hina, Yuugi, Okuu, any of the Taoist group except Toziko, Sexybanki
pared down for size and excluding the ones I already suspect are shit i.e. Nazrin
>ran into an alice
>accidentally killed her before sealing
>can't seem to find another
oh god she's a steel-type pikachu isn't she
>>24885903
Scratch that; literally my very next encounter was an Alice.
>D, E+, E-, D+, C-, E-
c'est la vie
>>24885859
Don't expect anything to be shit. Even stuff you'd expect to be terrible like the fairies can actually be pretty strong.
>>24885933
Anon can safely expect Renko to be shit.
>>24884804
Not him, but I would certainly agree with banning discussing all of the other ones since they're all cancerous emo garbage and contribute nothing to this board, while Touhoumon is more /jp/ than /vp/ material.
>>24886053
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Merry Christmas anons! have a gift from hemo.
>kokoro has Moody
oh boy here we go
How do you release puppets?
>>24886215
Localize pic related, yes, that means you have to go to a specific point to release puppets.
>>24885859
OkuuS is THE top threat on netplay
SakuyaP is top 5 last I checked.
FutoS is damn good- top 15.
MikoS is currently 22nd
PatchouliD, RanP YoumuS, are up there
SeigaS and NazrinS aren't far behind
HinaA and YuugiS appear to see some use.
It's actually rather hard to go wrong in this game. Compared to pokemon things are pretty even.also merry christmas
>>24886273
What about AYAYAYAYAY?
>>24886296
AYAYAYAYAYA is top 5 in her P stance.
>>24886273
Not quite, weekly UtsuhoS is only in second place. First place is EllyP.
>>24886296
>ban ayaP
>>24886273
Sounds like a gas. My current team blazing the trail towards Eientei is Kotohime, Futo, Wriggle, Alice, Nazrin, and Yoshika. When do stance changes and netplay become available, respectively?
>>24886343
Style (or stance) changes become available once any puppet reaches level 30.
>>24886343
level 30 andBEAT THE GAME SON.
>>24886343
Style changes are level 30 for a puppet.
Netplay is postgame.
>>24886273
Maybe Utsuho is at the top because Japs are huge waifufags
>>24886948
Japs like Koishi the most.
>>24886104
>Junko and Clowpiece are chibi
>Hecatia is not
Biased too much?
>>24887270
Anon, he fucking loves Hecatia.
Fuck style changes are agonizing. I have WriggleP and KotohimeD now, but I can't decide what I should turn Nazrin or Yoshika into. YoshikaP @ (ultimately, if I decide to use her in netplay) Wraith Form w/ Power Spot/Poison Trap/Furious Recitation/Venom Nova seems like she could be a versatile lead and focus tank, and Nether/Poison has good coverage.
>>24887567
NazrinS is #50 on the usage chart right now, Yoshika isn't even on it.
Should just make Nazrin into speed and then Yoshika whatever helps round out your team and fill in gaps better.
Why is this cancer allowed on this board? Fuck off to /v/ or /vtouhou/ with your candy-ass shit clone thread. Pls.
>>24887588
Now now, it's not nice to be shitposting on Christmas anon-kun.
>>24887588
>Why is this cancer allowed on this board? Fuck off to /v/
I concur. See you!
>>24887596
What would I have to post on /v/? I come here for Pokémon because it's one of my favourite franchises. Touhou is an abomination that should not exist, and a crossover (i.e. bad ripoff) between the two is worse than cancer. Which makes it belong on /v/.
>>24887611
>Touhou is an abomination that should not exist
Oh come on, touhou isnt that bad of a shmup.
>>24887656
It's a pretty fair accusation towards the art at least.
>>24887663
To be entirely fair to ZUN, he is getting better, it's just that his art evolution is very slow. Sure, he can't into hands or breasts, but that's a pretty common affliction among amateur artists.
>>24887903
Moody kokoro is a fucking monster.
I want to boil some fairies!
>>24888121
>using Moody Kokoro over Protean
c'mon bro.
>>24888155
kokoro's too slow to really use protean at all
>>24888125
>>24886053
this board is already slow enough and it has barely a reason to exists, we don't need to ban more shit from it especially when it doesn't break any rules.
no, "I don't like it so it shouldn't be here" isn't a rule.
It's not like this thread is blocking any meaningful discussion from the board.
>wraith form YoshikaP body&soul with max attack and nether-boosting item
Is there any wall this can't break?
>>24888161
It's still a free Choice Band/Specs no matter your speed.
>>24888256
Judging by her usage stats that's not really impressive, having no STAB doesn't help too.
>>24888256
TenshiD could.
With field protect she would most likely survive the attack entirely and even if she couldn't she still has OHKO protection if she's at full health.
Not like she's overly popular though, doubt she ever gets used except for people that just simply like her character.
>>24888281
It's still an effective 422 power attack with wraith form and held item coming from 100 base attack, there's really nothing that survives that in this without light type + field protect + a good chunk of bulk, which only TenshiD does.
>>24888281
Well, it is essentially Explosion, but Yoshika has Netherate and decent attack, so it seems like it'd be enough of a good last-resort wallbreaker to justify as part of her kit.
Mostly, I'm theorycrafting around my current team; just entered the SDM with YoshikaP, FutoS, WriggleP, KotohimeD, AliceP, and NazrinS.
>>24888304
Doesn't matter if most puppets will kill her before she does anything, thought it's a fun last resort.
You'll have fun against Seiga.
>>24888316
Eh, mostly I figured her huge health and speed would make her a decent tank and wish passer. By the by, are skill cards reusable? And yeah, I'm like 8 or so levels overlevelled, but Patchouli's making me nervous as fuck about going up against Remi.
>Marisa lurking at the bottom of the room patchouli and koa are in
>decide to check the next room before i talk with her
>she's gone now
did i just fuck up
>>24888355
Skill cards are infinite use, yeah.
Marisa just spouts some quick little quip about "Oh, I guess the source of the puppet disturbance wasn't here after well. Aight peace out dude have fun" and leaves.
>>24888355
Marisa just says a few things about how she's totally not stealing books on what the fuck is up with the puppets.
>>24888316
Why this hot bitch loves explosions so much? also, she is the only 2hu without a version of herself in her team.
>>24884928
But seriously, why nerf nether when most nether types aren't even that good?
>>24888758
Hemo / whoever else is working on the game has so far had a very good head on their shoulders about the balance and takes almost everything into consideration for most of what they do.
I wouldn't be surprised if their logic behind current nether was that it gets minimal resists on offense but at the cost of really mediocre skill selection on most nether puppets. It seems like they weren't happy with how it worked out though so they could very well be giving the good nether skills to more puppets but giving out another resistance to it to keep it in check.
We'll find out soon enough when the expansion hits.
>>24888789
Someone knows how many members Focal Lens has? we know hemo is one them (possibly the funder).
>>24888902
I think there were at least four people in the last stream.
Fug. Handed me my first loss; I suppose being overlevelled and shitstomping everything else is no excuse to be skipping over mobs.
>>24889054
Good ol Remi doing what she does best: Reminding you that you actually have to play the game sometimes.
>>24889054
>cheesing through the SDM
>getting anally reamed by Remilia
Just like the real games anon :^) is Scarlet Gensokyo a thing in that game and did it make you cry tears of delicious blood?
>>24889054
ANOTHER VICTIM OF "FLAT AS FUCK" WHITNEY!
>>24889073
>>24889076
But I didn't WANT to grind, that's why I was fleeing from mobs! Stupid level 25ish zone lulled me into a false sense of security.
>oh geeze I've been OHKOing everything just from trainer battles
>oh wait fug remilia is the first battle against styles and my team is weak to steel and dark
>>24889103
BTW, when you lost to a 2hu, you get a special text?
>>24889103
Don't worry anon, there's a good chance you're going to get your shit pushed in a second time real soon.
Remi's just the lube before Reimu takes you to pound town.
>>24889054
Nah, Remi's levels are just ridiculous.. They take a sharp spike downwards afterwards, with the exception of Reimu Oak. From what I've seen grinding is entirely optional, granted I've yet to reach the E3
>>24889315
As long as you stick with a static team for most of the game then you pretty much just naturally end up overleveled unless everyone's 100+ cost.
You almost have to go out of your way to avoid XP intake to stay on par with big-name fights.
>>24889315
Prepare yourself for "Red".
>>24889117
Didn't seem special.
>>24889126
>>24889315
In fairness, I did make a few strategic errors.
>lead with yoshika; forgot flan isn't wind type and switched instead of laying poison traps
>didn't realize sakuya changes type to become neutral to earth; i needed to save nazrin for remilia since alice gets murdered by the shit i need her to counter
I'm going to rotate Rika back in to replace Alice, train up AWOO~<3 to replace Wriggle, and find someone to replace Koto "cute but fucking useless"-hime. Patchouli, probably. Really should be a sound type to deal with Reimu, but I'm not really invested in any of the sound types I have at the moment.
>>24888789
It's worth noting that Sound is now weak to Electric in the expansion (because the main weakness it has, Wind, is going to be pushed away by Chaos).
Hemo probably realized how close Nether was offensively to Dragon and didn't want to take the risk of having something like that dominating the metagame unintentionally. Dragon types not only centralized the game around themselves, they centralized the game around the type that could resist their onslaughts (i.e. steel).
Alternatively, Hemo really likes Sound.
Alright, managed to get a complete hold on most of the inventory addresses down, since FL turned out to be quite organized with their programming.
Where should I focus on, next?
>>24890036
Do it in the demo.
GF's a huge company and their demo still had enough stuff leftover in it to let us learn everything about ORAS before it released, surely a doujin company would fall prey to the exact same thing!
At the very least try hacking prismatic candies in and seeing if those still work for getting something above 20.
>>24889054
I managed to actually blow through Remilia my first go, mostly because SukunaD is the most overpowered thing in ever.
>>24890104
Need to learn how what addresses "introduce" the items in first, anon; only done enough so that I can only manipulate items that are already in the inventory.
Any ideas on where I should look at?
>>24890118
Oh.
Can you use cheat engine to hack a level past 20 (i.e. set it straight to 100, style change, see the moveset), or is Hemo better at proofing his game against hackers than GF
>>24890118
YO
Mind giving the address/cheat for prismatics
I'm way too fucking lazy to level all these S-rank puppets
>>24884923
How many nether types are even fast and hard-hitting anyways
>>24890131
>hackers
I'm hardly a hacker, anon; I'm more of an amateur programmer/translator with a love for 2hu than anything.
>>24890167
It's much faster to just grind Makai's goon squad than to use Prismatic Candy.
>>24890182
RinP is offensively pretty close to Salamence (120ATK and 100 SpATK v 130 ATK and 110 SpATK) and is faster (110 speed with access to Speed Boost), but her defenses suck (base 50 DEF and SpDef), she doesn't get a very strong STAB physical Fire move (best is BP90 and 90% accuracy), and while she does get the only physical Nether move worth using in the entire game that doesn't have priority (Midnight Apparition), it's a Double-Edge variant rather than an Outrage variant so she'll kill herself almost as quickly as she kills enemies.
There are a few others like YoumuS, TojikoD, or SeigaP that can qualify, but all of them have some flaw that keeps them from really being completely insane. (YoumuS doesn't get Midnight Apparition and Starving Spirit isn't significantly powerful off of only base 100 SpATK, SeigaP doesn't get Starving Spirit and is stuck with the BP 80 Ghost Wave, TokijoD has base 30 defense and will die to priority with incredible ease)
Also, in contrast to how basically every Dragon ever got access to Earthquake, very few Nether types get access to Shooting Press.
>>24890131
>>24890104
Nevermind; seems like sorting the items will refresh the inventory and "introduce" the edited items in.
However, I'm certain that the only way for a puppet in the demo to be higher than level 20 is to manually change the level value itself or the amount of exp a puppet currently has; the problem with that is the game seems to be constantly checking whether or not a puppet has a certain amount of exp.
>>24889933
>Hemo really likes Sound
Who doesn't?
>>24890250
Oh, and the next strongest Nether special attack after Starving Spirit, Poltergeist, is just as hilariously limited in who gets it: Only 3 puppets learn it just like Starving Spirit. Even Midnight Apparition is only learned by 5 puppets, although most of those tend to be high quality (MimaP, RinP, and MikoS are all stellar, although why you would use it on MikoS when she's not Nether type is beyond me)
For a good contrast, the top-end special Sound type move, Danmaku Orchestra, is learned by EIGHT puppets (KyoukoA, KyoukoP, LunasaD, LyricaP, MerlinA, MystiaP, YatsuhashiD, and YatsuhashiP), and the strongest non-drawback physical Sound type move, High Tone Crush, is learned by seven (BenbenD, BenbenP, KanaP, LunasaA, LunasaD, LyricaS, and MikoS).
For further contrast, the game's equivalent to Spore, Drunken Banquet, is learned by 3 puppets.
Even combining the totals for who gets Starving Spirit and who gets Poltergeist, fewer puppets get either one of those than Danmaku Orchestra, just like how fewer things get Midnight Apparition than Ultra High Crush.
I'm not even going to count Ultra High Tone for this because it's available via skill card, that's basically just cheating.
Also while looking this up I learned there's a Sound-type counterpart to Superpower, Full Burst Detonate (BP120 physical 100% accuracy, reduce ATK and DEF after use).
It's learned by 4 puppets (BenbenP, KanaA, MerlinP, and OrangeP), so at least there Nether wins out.
Contrast all of that to how literally every Dragon gets Draco Meteor and how most of them get Outrage and you'll quickly see why Nether is never going to be anywhere near as good as Dragon.also the expansion resistance change but I mentioned that earlier this thread
>>24890189
And I just realized two things:
1. Post expansion, MikoS will have double nether resistance.
2. Is this canon? If yes, then holy shit Miko is a complete jerk.
>>24890290
I don't.
Fuck Sound.
>>24890300
What's wrong with music?
>>24890303
It's on crap puppets.
>>24890297
>Is this canon?
Es not canon.
>>24890315
>Ending never
I blame the boats for this.
>>24890597
I just want a happy ending.
フォースシールド
("Force Shield")
Type: Chaos
Category: Status
SP: 10
コンティ二ュー
("Secondary Contingency")
Type: Dream
Category: Status
SP: 10
*Can't decide between "Contingency" or "Continuity"; picked contingency because it makes more sense.
炎の波動
("Wave[s] of Flame)
>>24890807
>Dream
*Illusion
Whoops.
>>24890817
Are there any dream moves besides the basic two?
>>24890822
Only seen the second half the stream, anon; forgot that there was a stream today. Will post several points of interests, watch the first half the stream, and a link to a supersanct post about the stream.
>>24890817
>>24890807
Just realized that Secondary Contingency is Continue.
Typings:
>CirnoE - Water/Fighting
>ClownpieceS - Fire/Illusion
>LunaE - Sound/Chaos
>SumirekoE - Dream
>YukariE - Illusion/Chaos
>MaribelE - Illusion/Void
>RenkoE - Light/Void
>>24890601
well, this happens in the past and the first chaoters shows they got a happy ending, futo became silly and miko a girl and both do not remember a shit, but there is one final thing Seiga can do to fuck with thunder ghost.
>>24890844
>Cirno becomes fighting
We touhou live now.
>>24890844
aw yes
could someone post the new type chart? I can't remember what chaos is weak to.
>注意事頂
("Receiving Notice")
>お札 (千円札) の用意
("Have the (¥1000) money ready")
>「幻想人形演舞-ユメノカケラ-」を遊ぶには
>「幻想人形演舞」 が必要!
("To play 'Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance - Yume no
Kakera -,' you must have 'Fantasy Puppet Dance Performance.')
>>24890871
Will have the chart in the next post, anon
>>24890810
Realized that this is possibly Surge of Flame.
I guess this picture can serve as screenshot of Hemo getting his ass sweeped.
>>24890871
Sign-ups for the "Puppet Dance Brawl" (the arena/stage we've seen in the teaser) is located in the Human Village.
>>24890908
So...is a "battle tower" or not?
>>24890885
>You must have the vanilla game
Doesn't this put them in a disadvantage? what about the new players that may go tot the comiket?
>会場あMAP
("Meeting Hall [Convention] Map")
<-ココ
("<-- Here")
>30日
("The 30th [day of December]")
>西館1 れ-63ab
("West Building 1") (This is the "cell" where they're located at.)
>FocasLens&出血観察日記
("FocasLens&BleedingObservationDiary")
>>24890911
Battle Tower confirmed.
>>24890915
Assuming they'll be able to buy the base game there, as well.
>>24890921
>Inb4 the music at it is a remix of this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq4KFCAJxew
Shit, when they will release crystal for the 3ds virtual console? fuck gen 1.
New option for battling; will get back to this as soon as I'm done watching the first half of the stream and finishing up the second half's points of interests.
>>24890929
Doubles? Please be doubles.
>MFW focal lens later releases another expansions that adds a true battle frontier.
Fuck ORAS.
Be hyped for, at least, 2 more Physical Chaos moves.
>>24890940
Saw Hemo doing singles during the second half; will get back to you if I can, after watching the first half.
>>24890885
How much is 1000 yens?
So what form does the expansion take? New game+? Postgame? Obviously not standalone, since you have to have the base game to run it.
>>24890957
Changes the whole game, but if you already beat it, it let you transfer your 2hus.
>>24890962
Oh, nice. I suppose I shouldn't worry about getting to far then, since I'll be wanting to restart for the whole experience.
>>24890944
Meant "Focus" when I typed at "Physical."
>ステルスマーダー
("Stealth Murder")
*Probably going to be changed to "Assassinate"
>Type: Chaos
>Category: Focus
>BP: 80
>SP: 20
>ディスト一ションボム
("Distortion Bomb")
>Type: Chaos
>Category: Focus
>BP: 95
>SP: 15
>>24890954
In what currency?
>>24890968
Dollars, DUH.
>>24890971
11,407 australian dollars.
>>24890971
1000 Japanese yen is 92,233,720,368,547,760.00 Zimbabwe Dollars
Still don't know if the top line is accurate.
Also, might as well post the SuperSanctuary link now since it'll take me a while to listen to 30 minutes of the broadcast: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=600.0
>シヨツプ委託情報
("Cosigning Advantages Info")
*???
>メロンブックス
("Melonbook stand")
とらのあな
>DL配信
("DL Distribution/Delivery")
メロンブックスDL
("Melonbook stand DL")
>予約受付中
("Now open [accepting]")
>>24891052
>>24891050
Ok...that will be...8 USA dollars, whoa, too cheap, it feels like they don't win anything.
>>24891056
The OP's bullet points is making it sound like the extra style is more powerful than the other styles and I would assume with some kind of restriction to balance it out.
I remember other people in these threads speculating that before but is that actually confirmed now?
>Kagerou has great Sp.A and shoddy Fo.A
>learning nothing but focus attacks
for
what
purpose
>>24891056
Forgot to mention that I have no idea what "とらのあな" means.
>>24890968
Meant to type out "out" at "at.
>>24891074
Should probably ask Clarste; my ears are shit at listening.
>>24891076
A reference to this piece of shit with the same problem?
>>24891087
Quite possibly. I've started looking for a replacement to her since I realized that KagerouP is redundant with most of my team and KagerouS' speed is useless when its weakness is 'literally anything with Overtake Strike'
Let's see what pokemon each style 2hu represents, we know PSuika is slaking, what else?
>>24891100
Akyuu has a shedinja style.
>>24891100
One of the Satori's is Wobuffet.
>>24891100
MikoP is archeops
>>24891112
Does she has a useless ability?
>>24891115
The same useless ability. On that note, one of Yukari's forms has the same one as Regigigas if I recall.
>>24891112
>Archeops used too look cool
>Gen 6 3d model makes it look retarded
Fuck.
>>24891124
Archen is still adorable at least.
If they add a battle frontier later, what 2hus would be the brains? i imagine Nitori would be the brain of the battle factory, with its technology theme.
>>24891135
Hina for the pike, some taofag for the pyramid, Kaguya or Shinmyoumaru for the palace.
>>24891145
>Hina for the pike
Is fucking perfect.
>tfw trying to build a well-rounded team of puppets i like without introducing gaping defensive holes
EllyP, RikaP, YoshikaP, PatchouliD, FutoS, NazrinS, maybe? Fuck, that leaves half my team weak to fire.
>>24891151
>>24891135
But Hina is already the puppet releaser.
>>24891160
And Nitori is already at the kappa hideout, you can do more than one thing.
Also, she is the only one to fit the theme perfectly.
>>24891160
>Implying they are set in stone for one role
They could make them appear at their respective battle facility during your 21 battle.
>>24891168
Nitori doesn't really have a "role" though. She gives you the boat and then stops being important.
Hina's job never stops being used.
>>24891173
Come on anon, 2hus can have more than one role in game, plus i am sure i saw a screenshot of the "battle tower" with mc about to battle this pc98 red haired 2hu that other role in the game was guarding makai's entrance.
Forgot to crop out picture; will be promptly performing sudoku.
>人形対戦の腕が 今試さ れる!
("Attempt and sign up for the puppet war of skill today!")
>並み居る強豪達を倒し 50連勝を目指せ!
("Aim to rival the Champion by achieving 50 consecutive victories!")
*Not too sure if it's "rival the champion" or "become the champion."
>「人形舞闘会」 開催中!
("The "Doll Dance Brawl" is being held!")
>>24891188
Good, if it means she's gone and I don't have to sit through GO THROUGH THE LEFT DOOR.
AGAIN.
ASSHOLE.
Then I'm fine with such a role change.
>>24891192
Actually, you can rematch her in the postgame of the vanilla game, and she still insults you.
>>24891135
Yuugi would run the battle dome with oni fist.
>>24891100
OrangeD is Blissey
>>24891190
>mfw watching these guys get blown the fuck out and cheat through everything
>>24891299
Good to know the Battle Tower will be bullshit then I guess.
Don't feel like messing up and managing to post my social security number, so I'll translate this as soon as I wake up, but letting anyone who wants to take a swing at this to do so: "ただいま じゃじゃおさんは 25連勝中です。"
>>24891305
I'm assuming it was matches 20-25, they seem to be done in sets of 5. Technically, they only lost 2 (the two where the opponent had something that could outspeed AyaP), but they had some kind of debug feature that could just arbitrarily defeat the enemy team.
>>24891336
All your opponents in the battle tower are 2hus or they only appear as "brains"?
>>24891341
All the ones shown were 2hus, though I don't know if there are other NPCs towards the beginning. It looked more like Battle Maison than anything else.
>>24891350
Actually it has the look of the battle arena, but it plays like the battle tower.
>battle spot match near the end of the stream
>has RenkoE, SumirekoE, YukariE
>ClownpieceS blows him the fuck out single-handedly
kek'd heartily
Battle facility appears to follow the rules of Gaiden. You bring six mons, go into team preview and play see 6 choose 3, except the opponents only have 3 mons to begin with so it's stacked in your favor for once.
Hemo's Power Aya traded Rush Attack for a Focus multi-hit, which screws him over on-stream multiple times because it just doesn't have the killing power Rush Attack did on physical walls.
Extra Marisa is Nature/Chaos.
Extra Renko is Light/Void.
Extra Maribel is Illusion/Void.
Extra Sumireko is Dream.
Extra Yukari is Illusion/Chaos.
Extra Cirno is Water/Fighting.
Extra Luna is Electric/Chaos.
Speed Clownpice is Fire/Illusion.
Extra Renko has an ability that changes the target's ability to なし (No Ability) when she enters battle.
Extra Renko is running four status moves: Bind Trap, Grim Reaper's Dance, Continue, and a new Chaos move that had priority but didn't appear to do anything useful.
Extra Sumireko has Darkness Sweets, Ultra High Tone, Shake Gear, and Upbeat.
Speed Clownpiece has a new move that inflicts Burn and Fear simultaneously, Surge of Flame, Blessing of Mana, and Mysterious Wave.
Extra Yukari has a new Focus Illusion attack with 120 BP, two Focus Chaos attacks with 95 and 80 BP, and Barrier Option.
>>24891399
>Speed Clownpiece has a new move that inflicts Burn and Fear simultaneously
Holy shit, i knew it, i knew she was going to be a status ailments monster.
>>24891434
I wonder if Speed Clownpiece still has the confusion counter ability to boot.
>>24891474
how that ability works?
>>24891836
20% to confuse an enemy that hits her with a focus attack, assuming it remains unchanged from how it is right now.
>>24891399
>Hemo was using fucking AyaP except now AyaP gets a multi-hit physical fighting move, because Transcend Form was actually capable of backfiring
How do you lose with that
>>24891883
Battle Tower AI fuckery.
>>24891883
Because you aren't running Rush Attack to murder physical walls.
Transcend Form can't even 1HKO a Gold Hairpin SukunaD with full defense investment unless you're holding a Straw Doll or get VERY lucky (~10% chance not counting crits). Rush Attack would let AyaP blow SukunaD away safely without having to risk her surviving and murdering her back.
>>24891896
Oh dear god.
if Miko is a boy canboys love boys?
>>24891910
>Miko is a boy
Not anymore thanks to this sexy bitch.
>>24891399
>that ability on Extra Renko
That seems absolutely disgusting. AyaP loses her reliability on multi-hit moves, SukunaD becomes completely irrelevant, MimaP loses her effective immunity to status effects and trap setting, ReimuD can't recover her held item anymore when she uses it for Continue, SuwakoS loses Moody, IkuS no longer has ridiculously strong Wind skills, IkuP loses her earth immunity, KoishiA loses her priority status, UtsuhoS has her moves become less reliable...
Unless her stats are absolute trash like Renko's regular stances, she's going to be overpowered as hell.
>>24892026
Sounds like a fair trade to compensate her crappy stats.
>>24892026
Makes sense, of the 2hus, Renko is the most "normalfag" so an ability that turns other 2hus into "normalfags" fits.
>>24892026
Eh, only really screws over a few puppets that are ridiculously reliant on their ability (SukunaD and AyaP, maybe EllyP to some extent), and it only works on switching in; if SukunaD switches into RenkoE, she'll still have Miracle Mallet.
Assuming Hemo doesn't boost it, she'll have a BST of 350 in her Extra stance like in her regular two stances. For comparison, that's tied with a few NORMAL puppets (i.e. unevolved).
For someone with stats that low to be remotely viable, you need something absolutely goddamn insane to back you up; Smeargle did it in regular Pokemon by being able to learn literally every move and it has a BST of 245. SukunaD does it thanks to Miracle Mallet compensating for her poor base stats. Renko in theory was supposed to do it with RenkoS being able to put up permaweather and RenkoA being able to put down longer duration terrain moves, but that doesn't really hold up well in execution (even if in the latter case 70/65/75 isn't horrible defensively if invested in).
Basically Hemo feels bad that Renko wasn't very good the first time around and wants to fix it.
>>24892158
He must have see /vp/ anons saying that Renko was basically luvdisk AKA the most useless pokemon ever.
>>24892207
Arguably worse because at least Luvdisks will often have heart scales attached to them.
How do alternate colors and alternate costumes work/how do you get them? I assume the alternate colors are shinies.
>>24892243
You have to go into a store in the bottom right side of the human village, it's closed at first but it opens up after you deliver the package to Alice and / or receive the bike I believe.
>>24892251
Sweet, thanks. Time to grind Elly and Kyouko (with their new duds) up to parity with the rest of my team so I can take on Remilia again.
>>24892372
>Elly
Poor, poor Remi. She doesn't deserve such cruelty.
Battle Frontier Brain remix when?
What theme can fit it? Original or a 2hu arragement?
>>24892406
They won't straight up put the original in, that'd be too close.
They might remix a 2hu theme to sample it though.
>>24892413
I have never heard a 2hu theme that can fit any of the Frontier themes, neither Emerald or PtHGSS.
Who is the equivalent puppet of Deoxys?
>>24892470
If we going for the theme, i would say Nue, but battlewise, i have no idea.
>>24892384
Hora, found her weakness, did I?
But yeah, out of fairness to her, I'm just going to grind them up to 30 or so for style changes and box my old party members as/if they hit 40.
>>24892483
STAB priority move coming from 120 base attack hitting a quad weak glass cannon.
Overtake strike is pretty much the get out of jail free card for Remi. Please be gentle, she's very sensitive about her weaknesses.
It also helps that Elly is #1 on the weekly usage chart by a large margin, although you won't get to experience why that is until higher levels.
>>24892498
Well, fuck, I just picked her up because she neatly patched several holes on my team and has a qt maid costume, I didn't realize she was the top OP pick out of the whole game. Now I feel bad.
>>24889461
I swept her team with a level 70 Reimu.
>>24892510
She's not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination but she's undoubtedly in the top 3 best puppets in the game and will definitely have people get mad at you for it if you ever do netplay.
But fuck em, just use who you wanna use. The expansion is gonna shake everything up real soon anyways.
>>24889461
>She is Red
>literally no Red theme
w h y
>>24890844
>Dream type puppet
That sounds busted
So do we know what Extra Marisa can do. Her type change to Chaos/Nature seems kind of odd.
>>24892624
It's probably a reference to Story of Eastern Wonderland where she rode around on a plant for some reason.
>>24892576
Probably because Red is at the top of Mt. Silver that is always snowing(winter).
>>24892806
Could be. I'm just wondering how she'll function.A bulky attacker would be great.
Just got the superpower glove and climbed down the mountain. now what?
>>24892888
you have to go through the cave to the west of Moriya Shrine (the one with Sanae) which I assume you already did, then go to the west, until you meet a rest stop. The from there go west until you find a village with cats, explore it and find Chen, which will give you a map, that also functions as Fly.
Use the map to teleport to the rest stop in Route 2 and use rock smash to open the path to the cave to the north.
>>24892888
Go right from the rest stop on the youkai mountain descent back path to pick up the gap map from Chen, then gap map to the Route 1 rest stop inbetween Hakurei Shrine and the human village and head north up to the caves.
>>24892941
>>24892942
Thanks guys
>>24892834
Fo years i thought Red was in the most deep cave of mt.silver, it wasn't until HGSS that i realized it was the summit, not even the fact you didn't need flash in that "cave" made me realize it.
STOP USING CHANGELING YOU CUNTS
>>24893258
Eh? What was that again?
>>24893258
Make me.
Is there anyway I can maximize the game?
>>24893258
What's wrong with Changeling?
Entry hazards very rarely show up, basically nothing is immune to dark that's relevant outside of maybe ShinkiS, and it's basically U-Turn if U-Turn was actually a good attacking type rather than Bug (hitting light, nether, and the game's equivalent to normal for SE? SOLD)
And most of the very fast puppets get it like AyaP and FutoS, just to fuck with your opponents even harder than they already did by default.
>>24893401
It makes farming Koakuma a pain in the ass is what's wrong with it.
>>24893450
You could probably handle Remilia by this point.
>>24893460
I did, that was a post-battle screenshot. For some reason, some puppets will recover a handful of hitpoints if they were fainted, but only sometimes?
I fucked up a bit by forgetting she lead with Sakuya and not Flan, and by forgetting that Yoshika's Sp.D is fucking atrocious, but fortunately Futo was able to mop up Flan so that Elly could take Remi with impunity (since I knew that Patchy would get fucked up against either of them)
>>24893483
That's when they level up I believe.
>>24893483
A fainted puppet that participated in battle will still gain some exp from that fight; if they level up from it, they'll recover from fainting.
Same principle that applies to using prismatic candies as ghetto revives.
>>24893486
>>24893487
Oh, right, fug. I'll blame that oversight on being tired.
Also female kappa are cute as fuck.
>>24893450
I hope the expansion gives remilia a massive charisma break face for when she loses.
>>24893450
>killing time
>not killing fate
ONE JOB!
>>24893501
Her puppet already cowers when it's hit
Not pokemon.
>b-but it's a hack!
It was hacked to the point where most original traits of a traditional pokemon game are completely gone.
>>>/jp/
>>24893547
>It was hacked to the point where most original traits of a traditional pokemon game are completely gone.
>>24893547
You're vastly overestimating how different it is mechanically. If you don't like it, filter the thread.
>>>/v/also i see what you guys meant about multi-hit moves, Elly is fucking ripping through everything with Twister
>>24893547
We never said this was a hack, it was built from scratch and it takes heavy inspiration on pokemon.
>>24893562
Welcome to why AyaP is a top tier puppet.
Elly goes even further beyond multi-hit moves though, such things are child's play compared to what she has available.
>>24893523
That reminds me, who all belongs on Team U~Uu~
So far I've got Remilia, Kagerou, and Kisume.
I have no favorite starting puppet and I had noticed that the first puppet that you see and started the whole plot is never seen again but instead replaced with what you told the guy was your favorite character. I assumed it was meant to be the same puppet therefore there is technically a canon starter puppet for the game. I wish to start the game with this puppet for the sake of canon as I honestly can't make up my mind anyway and in the long run it doesn't even matter.
Do anyone know what character this puppet was meant to represent? No offense to Touhou fans but there is like no joke 5 characters with blond hair wearing something white on their head and wearing a purple-ish dress on this game alone.
>>24893698
Pretty sure that one's Yukari (iirc Maribel doesn't have the bow)
>>24893698
It's Yukari, most likely.
>>24893698
It's a Yukari.
>>24893710
>>24893711
>>24893715
Thanks. It honestly been bugging me and preventing me from playing long. I wish I could blame it on autism but I'm just being stupid.
>>24893547
Cry to mods about it.
So anyway, if this single Yukari puppet could cross the border, couldn't there be many more in the real world? Or was this one sealed and under orders of the real Yukari?
>>24893775
Nobody knows.
>>24893775
Don't think the game ever commented on any of that, the story is extremely loose right now and mostly just serves as a means of pointing you at things to go beat up.
The expansion might be changing that though, the demo area alone already has a lot more dialogue in it and with more characters.
>>24893719
She a pretty good starting puppet. Even with no real moves Marisa puppet doesn't really stand a chance against it. Last time I went with Magan and had to poison her first for a guarantee kill.
>>24893819
Yeah.
When I started, I LOST with the starting Marisa puppet against Raiko. I actually panicked because I thought you were supposed to weaken and then catch it like regular Pokemon tutorials but then she kicked my ass and I was starting to panic because who the hell manages to lose a tutorial in a Pokemon game?
>>24893953
It's all about which stats your puppet starts with. Most of them can beat Marisa with the non damaging skill followed by the energy attack. Assuming the status skill is an appropriate buff/debuff. But some simply can't win.
Defense suika or power?
>>24894106
Slaking or Snorlax?
>>24894109
Damn it anon answer my question first!
>>24894106
>>24894121
Power if you want her to be a giant loli shooting nuclear fists at people.
Defense if you want to actually be a useful contribution to your team.
I wonder if Extra Renko's ability works on Power Suika, because that'd be a hilarious backfire if it were the case.
