Puppet Thread
Ask what's the best style for your puppets here
I had my satori assist but i deeply sorry for that now. wobbufet was perhaps fun in gen 2, but now puppets keep using weird skills and food rations doesn't help.
i got my tenshi to d tenshi (cuz in my mind shes a big M, also, i had yamame so pure ground wasn't favorable cover-wise) but since my previous playtrough tenshi was also a d i feel a little bored with her.
i guess im gonna catch those 2 again.
So is this better or worse than Pokemon
>>24852533
Download link
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar
Change your location to Japan or use locate emulator
>https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo
If you don't get to make connections in the normal way, try Hamachi.
>>24852554
better than current pokemon game
Just if you want to start this anew, most useful links:
Game download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar
If it has letters messed up, you'll need to download locale emulator(Sometimes just changing the applocale works, but not always):
https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo
Pupppetdex, can't open online, use a spreadsheet viewer:
ttp://www.mediafire.com/download/qmffs6x1429z7cu/tpdp+PuppetDex+1.8.xlsx
Trailer for the new expansion (released next commiket):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5N0_paQME
>>24852561
Well, this is awkward
>>24852554
Pretty much all of the tedium in building your team both during the story and in post-game is dramatically less bullshit and most 2hus are at least viable so it's more about picking your favorites rather than being forced into what's useful.
Everything else is generally pretty straight-forward Pokemon with a more aggressive meta, great music and adorable as fuck.
>>24852554
fangames in general-
>>24852559
Really?
>>24852533
Why would you post this ugly demo screen? /vp/ fags will think that this mess is the actual game.
OP is a shit.
>>24852554
It has better postgame than all gen 6 games and the metagame is designed to fuck stalling.
>>24852563
Indeed. I'll pretend I saw nothing.I even forgot to linkfy one of them, fuck.
>>24852566
yes there are like 2 serious battles (and i was good at comp pokemon) and postgame battles are vs full evd 31 ivd ,,pokemons"
also infinite rematches
also cool labirints n shit
>>24852566
I would tell you yes, but it would be better to try it out for yourself.
>>24852567
I'm sorry
I was in a rush
>>24852567
Where was the old OP with his cute drawings
>>24852580
Netplay too
so are the stealth steels in tpdp even as useful as stealth rocks in pokemon
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>>24852609
Everything can learn the local rapid spin, it also has 50 power, making it viable.
>suika used vacuum rapture fist
>>24852618
>outfit from uLEL
dropped
>>24852627
>nature barrier
>>24852559
Are You insane?
>>24852648
BTW, from where is all this art? a nice anon gave me the link to an archive full of it, but nobody knows from where is, is from a proto pokemon game hemo was doing before going chibi?
>>24852654
Dude, admit it, current pokemon has SHIT postgame.
>>24852554
in some ways yes, in some ways no.
the dungoens here actually feel like mazes. this could be a good thing and it could be a bad thing, depending on your pov
there are very few actual shitmons around, meaning that no matter what you take your team can be powerfull... depending on you, the trainer.
you don't have to calculate ev. you can use points you earn in battle (similiar to exp) to give whatever evs to whatever mons.
able to relearn old moves easily
hms are now items, no need for an hm slave
the list goes on...
the bad stuff? netplay. hard to find a match. only available postgame. no trading (yet). some puppets level up way faster than others, and exp share is inbuild and can't be turned off.
overall fun. nice way to become a touhoufag-i also only cared about touhou only after playing touhoumon. join us :)
>>24852667
>not liking exp share
lol i enjoy having underleveled shits in my team :6)
>>24852678
dude
use them if you don't want them underleveld
kick them if you don't want to use them
exp share should be a held item. at least in this game.
>>24852650
we nature barrier here bro
Besides, P-Suika has a really low usage
>>24852703
>list of legimate things that can use detect
-
>>24852705
Who are you quoting?
>>24852694
Because re-grinding your reincarnated puppets would be so much better if it wasn't built in, right.
>>24852712
Grinding after reincarnation is a pain in the ass. It was a mistake to reincarnate all of them.
>>24852708
the '>' is for quoting, newbro.
>>24852712
than the exp shaare should only appear post game? fine by me.
>>24852718
'>'
U
>starter starts out with all S now
nice
>>24852734
>recolored tewi
BRAVO HEMO
>>24852734
That's the...third best news I've heard from this expansion.
>>24852744
why dont shi have feets??
>>24852734
>Clownpiss
I take he doesn't like her? or is this an edit?
>>24852746
Puppets don't HAVE feet, silly.
You fucking foot fetishist I bet you want them to have tiny magical wooden toes.
>>24852747
my nickname
there's a demo out
>>24852747
>what are nicknames
>>24852755
>playing demo
wow i want to spoil my games and do the same shit twice when its released
>>24852755
>>24852756
I thought that was from hemo twitter.
Link to the demo?
>>24852759
i don't have anything else better to do
>>24852760
http://www.fo-lens.net/enbu_ap/download.html
click こちら
>>24852734
Whats with the (0)?
>>24852774
>i don't have anything else better to do
play dungoen siege or something
>>24852778
go fish someplace else.
>>24852777
those are the EVs
>>24852777
I guess it shows how much EV is on that stat.
>>24852798
Damn bro, mad much.
>>24852798
...good taste
>>24852774
How far does the demo go to?
>>24852798
Watch out some underage fags might fall for that
>>24852734
Can also see that she has that heart mark that got mentioned before to the bottom left of her sprite box.
>>24852823
lol idk this is sum undertale shit
>>24852734
>fire type
why?
>>24852833
perhaps because she's holding a fucking torch?
>>24852833
>hell fairy
>torch
>>24852833
She is full of BURNING AMERICAN FREEDOM!
>>24852835
>>24852836
she has bells in her hat. she should be fire/sound.
>>24852838
>hell must be fire
or ice. or dark. or void. or nether.
>Nether is a shit type
RIP Yuyuko you were my favorite
>>24852866
Power Yuyuko is still a very good bulky offense anon, she's #23 on the JP usage chart right now.
She's also very happy, don't you want to keep her happy?
>>24852848
Void is normal, most weaker characters as far as lore goes are void, as well as pure humans. Of course, this has exceptions.
Nether are dead themselves, or directly related to it, spirits or those who interact with them. Orin and Okuu both are in the former hell, but only the former can have Nether typing, she's the one to handle the spirits and bodies, both can fire though.
Hell in Touhou is actually the usual fiery depiction, and ice isn't even a type.
Dark is more reserved for the the darkness loving, as well as many based on the more known youkai, like the vampires. Also a few of what is considered "dark magic".
I'd say CP's typing should be fire/illusion.
>>24852875
One of her styles will likely be fire/illusion, especially now that there are 3 of them.
>>24852875
Given her ability to drive people insane she might get the new type if the translation of Chaos is right.
>>24852875
Yeah, she has the power of making people fell in madness , so a new style is very likely to be Fire/Illusion (considering that Reisen also has a similar power and is Illusion type).
>>24852875
>trying to go lore-wise
the faries in lolk are purified, they are pure forces of nature, of life and death
she should either be pure nature or pure light.
btw, the ruler of makai is illusion type.
I want to know Doremy typing
>>24852866
It's only resisted by one type, so it's actually pretty good on the offense.
And the nature of the meta helps with defense. Dark is hampered by ever-present steel threats and light is NVE against quite a few types, making it an unpopular attacking type.
Power Yuyuko's typing covers the light weakness anyways.
>>24852895
take a wild guess
>>24852895
dream, duh
Why do the people in this thread hate stalling so much
>>24852901
its just me and 50% of posts is mine
>>24852901
Because stall is boring.
>>24852901
Because is a fucking waste of time.
>>24852744
>nitori will never pull your shirikodama out of your anus
why live
>>24852734
>>24852926
I'm fairly certain that would kill you Anon.
>>24852932
exactly, it would be a win/win for us both
>>24852890
>trying to go lore-wise
Didn't you just do the same? Typings take a lot of shit into account, the abilities, appearence, what lore the character is based on and spellcards even.
You can see lunarians, also pure beings, don't share a theme of typing, for instance.
She has a torch, is based on a figure whose man trait is carrying such torch, both related to fire and has skills related to madness.I don't get why mention Shinki out of nowhere.
>>24852936
>Didn't you just do the same?
Yes I did. Thats the point.makai is hell
>>24852940
Makai is the demon world, Hell is hell. If you die, your chances of going to Makai are literally 0.
>>24852957
We're all nerds here.
>>24852959
>we
>>24852962
>wuz
>>24852901
I don't hate it. Getting to put sets like this to work is fun.
>>24852949
Actually neither are real. if you die, you end up in gensokyo.
jokes aside, in the japanease tradition makai was the name for hell.
So what are the other new 2hus types in the demo?
>>24852734
Are ALL of the new touhous still available to be picked as a starter?
>>24852998
yep
>>24852659
Could that archive link please?
>>24852659
>>24853034
Sorry, could you post that archive link please?
>>24852985
>Triple typing
>>24852980
not him but Makai and Hell are different realms in touhou, Hell is where Reimu goes in touhou 1 in search of power and Makai is where she goes in touhou 5
Also there is the Palace of Earth wich have connection with hell but absolutely nothing to do with the Makaiactually I think Reimu destroyed the Makai if my memory serves well
>>24853060
im pretty sure mima or marisa commented on already being to makai in MS. i think its the same as the one from the first game.reimu sealed it away, the seal got broken later and byakuren returned from where she was locked- makai.
>>24853060
>Hell is where Reimu goes in touhou 1
>Reimu destroyed the Makai
>>24852901
Stalling is cancer. I don't want to take 30 real life minutes to do a single match.
>then just quit and give me the win! :3c
It's cancer.
>>24853041
I think this is it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pwo63i46um31h2m/tpdp_data_v134.rar
>>24852901
Stalling a bit for me is ok, for setting up some traps, and status conditions, but doing that for 30+ turns is boring. And stall vs stall is even more boring.
>>24853073
I don't remember that comment, but you are right, it's sealed
>>24853077
Play HRTP faggot
>>24853088
Hoo boy all those cutie dialogue portraits, based Hemo.
Thanks anon.
>>24853141
>Play HRTP faggot
more like you didnt
>>24853088
Huh. Looking through it, I don't recall this picture.
>>24853155
>2 Routes
>Hell
>Makai
Is it really that hard to understand?
>>24853162
>picking one of these made reimu magicaly destroy makai
ok
>>24853174
I was referring to touhou 5, stop being that butthurt
>>24853145
What folder are the dialogue portraits at? I feel I've gone through them all but couldn't find them.
>>24853183
gn_dat1 > talkImage > stand
Enjoy waifus.
>>24853174
it was destroyed in a later game
>>24852811
i don't think it goes past the human village, haven't been able to trigger anything else
also the fairy fights were hilariously easy compared to how much trouble i had on the other game, or maybe CP is just that gud
>>24853194
Cute! CUTE!
Thanks anon.
>>24853227
Who was your starter the first time?
>>24853236
marisa
>>24852887
Guys, Holy fucking shit i just figured something g out.
The creator of koishi komeijis heartbreaking adventure must be ZUN or zun are aware of the Web comic.
For those who don't know it, the lunarins invade gensokyo and make everyone into madness.
>lunarian or connection to the moon people
Check.
>moon with red dust cause madness
What is purifying and again the moon, check.
>clown star can cause madness.
Holy shit check.
The whole touhou 15 game is acknowledged by KKHA webcomic.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is too spooky.
Please do discuss.
>>24853088
Thank you.
>>24853239
>not putting up the link
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP0jCPw9IPWi-Tjr88g5HUvQuqY1asTP4
I hate niggerfaggots.
Kill me.
>>24853096
Are you implying that's bad?
It takes more skill to grind apart the opponent's team with predicting switches and knowing when to deploy statuses and hazards and knowing HOW to wall a given threat than it does to just press the giant "KILL" button on your AyaP or SukunaD and watch something on the other side go down into the dirt. Especially when you have so few tools to do so and so many things to cover; it makes Gen 6 stall look easy in comparison.
Stall is not boring. It's hyper-offense that's boring.Stall v stall is a living hell though
>>24853211
>>24853178
>it was destroyed in th 5
did you even seen the scene after reimu beat shinki holy shit you niggers
>>24853311
like anyone really even cares about the pc-98 games
>>24853319
>l-like i care
>>24853253
>Seiran is in final chapter 5/9
Wew
E
W
>Reimu
>Youmu
>Okuu
I don't know who else to put on this team for postgame.
>>24853377
Those three are already all high-end picks so there wouldn't be any harm in just slapping in whoever you think is cute.
>>24853319
me do
>>24853311
no totally, maybe shinki only destroyed the city pandemónium, after all hokkai appear as part of makai in UFO
>>24853311
>you will never see any of the good endings from Mystic Square
Fuck, I tried again today after a break from it and still can't do shit. Yuki+Mai and Yumeko just kick my ass, I couldn't even beak Shinki to get the bad end this time (I've gotten the bad end before at least, I think my record is only using one continue).
>>24853386
How well did I do?
>>24853430
>didn't leave one of them leveled so they could be grinded back up
You already fucked up and you didn't even start.
>>24853439
I have Futo and Yuki saved up from my ingame team.
>>24853430
You're gonna die.
So, is Tewi any good at all?
I might get some shit for this but just 2 questions
is there something like Breeding?
where the fuck is the name rater?
thanks
>>24853506
>is there something like Breeding?
There's Reincarnation, which you unlock postgame. Not too sure how it works specifically.
>where the fuck is the name rater?
Remilia becomes the name rater once you defeat her.
>>24853483
tewi is adequate, shes fast and has the lucky ability in both assist and power forms
>>24853515
sweet, thanks m8
>All those deleted posts
What happened here?
>>24853561
shitposting
>>24853483
Neither style is even on the usage chart but power seems pretty okay, certainly nothing impressive but plenty usable for anything other than high end netplay.
>>24853561
Oh y'know, the usual 4chan shitposting, just another average day.
Ringo is Nature type for those wondering.
>>24853576
Can you do a summary of all the reaction your get from talking to puppets?
>>24853576
Oh man I forgot about being able to talk to your starter, alright now I need to mess around with this demo for a bit to see what that's all about.
>>24853581
Thus far I've seen Mg's, !, ?, and an indifferent looking smiley face. I'm presuming if there's a happiness stat equivalent it'll probably change.
>>24853586
I hope they randomly hug you.
Any advice for getting all S Ranks? I managed to get 3 but the others aren't showing up.
And here have Ringo's sprite while I go make dinner.
I might mess around and find out the other new-hu types when I'm done.
>>24853603
So what does the hold item do?
>>24853593
Yep, just tried it myself, same results. Here's hoping you're right about it changing throughout the game.
The changing facial expressions and your starter following you around is adorable as fuck though goddamn my heart can't take this, I can't wait for the expansion to get translated this is going to be so good.
>>24853644
>starter automatically has a heart mark
>joined you out of love and loyalty
>makes that kind of face
So is it only your starter that follows you or the puppet in your first slot? Can you even reach catching other puppets in the demo?
>>24853655
Even if they love you, they still can get bored.
>>24853655
Just confirmed, any puppet that's in your first slot.
Also, she has different responses, which also means there is in fact a happiness meter.
>>24853161
This picture was done back in 2011 for that april fools video.
>>24853682
Oh, and also of note, that puppet normally wasn't here in route 1, which is yet another thing confirmed: Encounter zones have been changed.
Fuck, this is going to ruin all my team building plans.
>>24853682
GOTY confirme, i wonder why gamefreak dropped that feature.
>Spend hours finding Sukuna in the normal game.
>Literally one into one first encounter in the demo.
>>24853688
>my team has very obvious encounter placements
>probably not going to changeThough really all I need is my starter. And maybe Kokoro.
Starter now also starts off with this item held onto them, whatever the hell it is.
It isn't the special heart-mark-only item because I can put it on other puppets that don't have the mark on their info.
>>24853688
Makes sense they gotta shove the new-hus somewhere, and given there additions are a fairly big feature I doubt all of them will be in the late game.
At the very least Blue Reisen and Worst Beatle will be in the Bamboo Forest probably.
>>24853694
>That face
she is still angry with the seija's puppets.
>>24853714
I think she's just indifferent in general.
>>24853710
Maybe you can give it to other puppets without the heart mark but it won't boost them without it?
>>24853719
All puppets seem to start off with the "I don't give a shit" reactions when you first catch them, unsurprisingly.
>>24853723
Then why does your starter STILL not give a shit?
>>24853722
It has no change on the info menu so I can't see any way to tell what it does.
Also, it seems that styles and puppets present in the base game have in fact received some changes, it's not just the new type and styles.
That ability on Momiji seems to be new, judging by the "HP 1/3" not being related to any of her original abilities, unless perhaps it's just fair & square that got reworked to change the health threshold on it.
>>24853729
Your starter gives slightly more of a shit.
Fresh puppets do a black fuzzy, a ... and a sleepy face.
Starter does !, ? , MG and the little wiggly face.
>>24853741
Wait, ALL puppets can MG, not just Ringo?
>>24853748
Yup, my Momiji does it too, but freshly caught ones don't.
Seems to just be a standard "Eh, I kinda like you" stage.
>>24853748
Yes I just had Blue Reisen here MG. Also she's a dual type but I forget which colors mean what.
>>24853764
Void and Electric
Looks like other puppets are in the world now too, perhaps there may be some story-relevant puppets to talk to in the game instead of it being exclusively legitimate 2hus.
Can't reach the Nazrin to see what she says though.
Sagume is poison of all things.
>>24853800
I bet the NPC comments about using his Nazrin to find treasures.
What do I do next? Make more S Rank waifus?
>>24853807
Also props to FocasLens for not just mirroring her sprite.
>>24853819
Kagerou has the same thing. It's pretty cool.
>>24853807
What type is the creator's waifu?
>>24853823
Gimmie a minute.
>>24853819
The real question still remains.
Are the new puppets' profile images as cute as the old ones?
>>24853807
Makes sense if you remember with who everyone compares her.
>>24853807
>>24853764
>>24852734
Please post the trainer's cards with the newhus.
figures I would catch something like this in the demo instead of the actual game
>>24853823
Void. Also she straight up murdered Marisa's Marisa puppet in the tutorial fight.
>>24853832
>>24853845
Ah shit I knew I was forgetting something.
There seems to be a new mechanic attached to all skills now, that category where "EN" is isn't there in the base game and other attacks can also have "BU".
>>24853883
Could be a contact/non contact marker
>>24853889
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Also means new skills / abilities that interact with it.
>>24853735
It looks like its Robust Spirit or whatever the Steel Type Overgrow is called.
Junko is Light/Water? Kinda weird but whatever.
Also she has an ability that triggers at the start of battles. Judging by the description mentioning SP 2 I think it's Pressure.
>>24853905
Also Trainer Card. I'll go back for the rest later.
This just keeps getting cuter and cuter.
>>24853927
BAKA ALERT!
>>24853905
her sprite is so pretty
New area branching off from the human village that's blocked off for now.
Or at least I don't remember this being here.
I've spied various minor changes along the way as well, errything's getting revamped.
Seems interacting with puppets in the world just has them give back standard little emoticon responses, there's also a Kokoro(?) in town that just does a little sweatdrop instead.
>>24853973
That is not Kokoro, is one of the aki sisters, the one everyone draws with big boobs.
>>24853973
Does a text appears after you talk to your puppets? or just the emotion?
>>24853993
You baka, I meant that there's a different puppet in the town that seems to be a Kokoro.
>>24854002
Just the little emoticons that looks like is going to change based on some kind of happiness meter throughout the game.
>>24853905
are you sure that's water? Looks darker to me.
>>24854010
So no a little description like in pokemon?
>TFW your female gardevoir randomly hugs you.
After bullying the baka squad into submission, Akyuu guides you around town a bit to talk to some dudes and then takes you towards the gate to supposedly carry on, but it looks like the demo ends here because it looked like she told the gatekeeper guy to let me through but he's still being a little shit about it.
Can also talk to the library chick and she can plot dump on you now unlike her being completely useless in the base game.
I'm shit at remembering 2hu names, sue me.
>>24854045
Daily reminder that this girl will become a youkai and Reimu will bullshit anything to no kill her, then Tanuki's bitch with use this information to blackmail Reimu into letting her do what she wants.
>>24854064
She appears now too when Akyuu takes you to go talk to library chick, in what looks to be her human disguise form thing, I'm not overly well versed in 2hu and I also didn't take a picture of it.
She seems to have some decent plot relevance.
>>24854080
Relax anon, i will cover you.
>>24854085
Yup, that's what she showed up as.
>>24854085
why is she so smug
>>24854012
Maybe not? I can't into Moon so if anyone wants to try translating it go ahead.
>>24854104
To ask why any 2hu is smug is akin to asking why water is wet.
>>24854108
yup, definetly a new type.
water is like this
according to Google Translate 歪 means distorted, so it's probably the new "Chaos" type
And to top off my adventure into the beta, have some premium-grade baka bullying fresh off the presses.
>>24854127
>>24854108
It looks like it's actually maybe a combination of two different types? The little block for it is split between two colors, but maybe that's just simply how the new type is represented.
>>24854134
that might be just how it's represented. A little weird, but Gen 3 and 4 had that too.
>>24854127
We did know there was going to be a new type so it's probably that.
>>24854134
A few existing types already do that, void and dream are both pink but dream has two-tones.
On the subject of dream types here's Doremy.
>>24854160
>>24854151
>>24854160
Huh, oh well, thanks.
>>24854160
so I'm assuming she's neutral to everything? Does she get any new Dream moves?
What about Sumireko? Is she Void or Dream?
>>24854180
Just because dream is neutral against everything offensively doesn't mean it's neutral against everything defensively.
I'm not about to slam Doremy's head into every attack I can find though to find out.
I suppose Dream and Chaos will be weak to each other
>>24854199
Couldn't really do that even if you wanted to anyways, there's extremely little type variance in the beta area.
>>24854165
>that Doremy
Being this smug should be illegal
>>24853807
>she is poison
>nobody wants to talk with her, cause she says anything the other way around she wants.
Like I like you, turns into fuck you faggot I hate you, kinda like that.
So yeah would makes sense she is poisonous, cancerous.
Aha i found the shitposter's waifu.
>>24854180
Sumireko is Chaos/Void.
>>24854233
>>24854230
Worth noting she starts with an attack that inflicts poison and can be stacked to inflict badly poisoned. At the start of the fucking game.
>>24854240
Trainer has longer trousers now.
>>24854265
Okay, I was wrong.
>>24854264
Aww man i was looking forward to use her, maybe she get some veno drench attacks.
I need get rid of Yin Energy
Which one is better skill to replace it?
I'm currently getting lost in SDM.
As previously stated Clownpiece is Fire.
>>24854299
RemiliaP takes 4x from Steel.
>>24854160
>>24854165
Fuck clownpiece. All hail Doremy.
>>24854333
wait a second
are people replaying the game via demo?
>>24854347
Still not Doremy.
>>24854365
No we're messing around in the demo to see what little changes we can see and mess around with the new puppets.
>>24854369
Replied to the wrong post.
>>24854365
There's a demo out for the new expansion coming later this month.
>>24852774
>>24854085
Rarest pepe
>>24853889
That would be nice. It seems a waste that every single attack is danmaku-based. I know it's Touhou, but it's not like the fighters (which had the same perspective as these battles) didn't have physical attacks. It's weird to have a sword-wielding puppet only ever use it to hold in front of her while shooting bullets.
>>24854483
Well, from what I saw in the demo it still didn't actually change any of the animations or anything, it's still just shooting various bullets.
My momiji had wintry wind and the ripper that both had a different variable on the supposed contact statistic but they both still just lobbed sword bullets / shot wind bullets same as always.
Doesn't seem like there's ever going to be any kind of skill that involves a puppet directly hitting another one.
>>24854508
they're uncommon, but I know that at least burn strike involves on-screen contact
>>24854549
Just checked myself and ehh, yeah, guess that does count.
Not exactly on par with actually hitting them with your sword but it's something.
Few questions:
Is it possible to if you grind hard enough in the demo to get to level 30 and the style change? If so...
What types hit for SE/NVE on Chaos? Does it have any immunities?
Is the Dream type still a "neutral to and against everything" deal even though puppets can have it now?
>>24854694
Oh god we're going to rip this thing apart like we did the ORAS demo
>>24854694
We really don't have enough data in the demo to make determinations about Chaos or Dream, there's simply not enough type variety to do enough testing.
All we can really confirm is that Doremy does get STAB from Yin/Yang strike which isn't a bad thing to have given nothing resists it.
>>24854694
There is far too little type variance in the demo to test more than a couple of types, especially when I think only the baka squad fights actually have typed attacks.
There doesn't seem to be anything stopping you from leveling that I've seen so far, but it'd be slow as shit.
>>24854702
Don't mention ORAS, i am still mad over no battle frontier.
>>24854710
Why not hack it open? The developers might be better at dummying out things than GF was, but we could still learn things a bit earlier than otherwise. Even just using Cheat Engine to try and force different encounters to see what would happen?
>>24854721
I suppose with a cheat engine to accelerate time one could level up to 30. But yeah even then it'd take forever.
Also I haven't played the early game in forever but was this room always blocked off early game?
>>24854735
Why not just use Cheat Engine to hack the level to 100 and then style change?
>>24854735
I think it was just empty originally, but I'm not positive. Isn't that where Marisa first takes you to talk with Sanae?
There's a whole bunch of changes already visible in the demo area so I wouldn't doubt that's new.
>>24854483
>>24854508
Well, the symbol just says "classification", so that's not a lot of help. Could be a physical/magical thing that works in the same context as contact if BU stands for 物理, but I'm not sure what that would make EN.
>>24854753
You're likely right, on my team in the beta Momiji's The Ripper skill is the only attack that has BU on it, everything else is either some kind of danmaku / fancy magic attack and is EN where Ripper is hitting them with throwing swords.
>>24854745
Yeah that is just the room you have the conversation with Sanae and Marisa, and where you fought Marisa in the original.
Kinda weird they'd block it off...
>>24854702
>>24854734
>>24854744
It's a fairly reasonable assumption not all the content is in the demo, the expansion demo is notably a smaller file size than the original full game.
Has anyone been able to extract the demo's assets?
>>24854816
Obviously, but there will still be leftovers of things that weren't dummied out completely; ORAS did that and we still learned everything about things like Hoopa-A or the BSTs of the new forms
>>24854753
Just went and caught a Keine with hammer throw which is also a pretty straightforward hit-them-with-an-object physical attack and it's also BU alongside The Ripper.
You're definitely on the right track.
>>24854710
>>24854694
Dream is the first row/column, Chaos is last.
