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Stargazer edition. Old thread >>24805026

Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck

/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u

PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-

Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA

Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ


Side topic: Have you remembered to buy some vitamins lately? You want to be nice and healthy, right?
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>>24814680

I dunno, they're there to just explore i guess. They could have stuck SOMETHING in the level 1 dungeons, I don't think even Sacred Ruins has anything in it, except maybe some tm's you'd be lucky to escape with
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What are the best starters is PSMD?
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>>24814836
Grass + Fire usually works out well. I think Riolu and Pikachu both get Agility by levelup, though that's less OP in Super than in past games. I went with Chespin and Cyndaquil and had no major problems getting through the game, even despite several story dungeons full of fire and flying-type Pokemon.
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>>24814836
Water and fire types will ensure you get access to ice beam and flamethrower, so those are kinda easy-modo
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>>24814836
I used Totodile and Fennekin. Totodile is the best of the starters for close range, and fennekin has a fairly strong distance moveset.
Charmander has some of the strongest moves to start with though
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>>24814181
Bringing this back from the leat thread!
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>>24814836
Chespin
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>>24814740
Am I the only one who noticed that Charmander looks chubbier in Super?
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>>24814899
>>24814866
>>24814858
>>24814845
Ill probably go with chespin + fennekin. Thanks family
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>>24814966
Charmander is also pretty great. There was a tier list floating around the threads a while back, but I didn't save it.
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Just went to Isle of Light and this guy was typed rock. Did this happened to anyone?
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After beating Dialga, Palkia and Mega-Rayquaza on my second try with no trouble because since my last attempt I roided up more and connected with Xerneas I got a little too full of myself and tried taking on Groudon. Just a few floors in I got my ass kicked by Volcarona that I couldn't touch in a monster house. I'm going to roid more and go after earlier access legendaries before trying again. Do the legendary birds have an actual battle or do you just talk to them to connect?
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>>24815005
Actual battles.
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>>24814994
Froakie may be bronze tier but if you aren't to autistic to evolve it gets much better as a Greninja with STAB Night Slash. Even just teaching it Ice Beam makes it much better.
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I'm kind of tempted to restart just to have a different player Pokemon. Cyndaquil is cute and all, but I'm mildly tempted to choose Pikachu because its model is so cute. Should I?

but I'm still gonna have Riolu as a partner
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>>24815001

Camouflage?
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>>24815001
My bad.
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>>24815030
Meant >>24815022
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>>24815005
Actual battles.

Also, do you have Kyogre? Kyogre works wonders in Magma Chamber. Drizzle is great for obvious reasons, and base Kyogre with Tempest Looplet OHKO's everything with Origin Pulse.
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>>24815030
Sorry, what?
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>>24815074

Camouflage.

It's a move that changes the user's type.

Mothim can learn it naturally.
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>throwing vitamins, Sitrus berries, life seeds and joy seeds through Greninja (MC) and Delphox (Partner)
>Joy seed misses Greninja

That's ok. You don't need that level anyway. Damn you.

>>24815048
I did consider trying for Kyogre first but I like Groudon more and I thought it would be a safe bet that Kyogre's dungeon would be filled with water types. With Delphox being one of my best, and only other mon to have been fed vitamins, I thought that would be pretty risky. When I try for them again I'll try Kyogre first.

>>24815010
>>24815048
Thanks. Not having to battle Raikou, Entei and Suicune to connect with them was rather upsetting.
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>>24815095
Pro tip: For Kyogre's dungeon, bring a mon with Storm Drain. Water moves will be effectively sealed, and you won't have to deal with Origin Pulse.
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Is there an easier way of getting Joy Seeds besides hoping for the best with the Excavation Looplet?
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>tfw still trying to get enough gold bars to max the stats on the main 5 pokemon I like using before buying move drinks
its a long road
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>>24815135
Nope, but there's another option. You can get Golden Seeds or Golden Bananas, which are better.
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>>24814994
can we get some decriptions on why they are where they are?
im justifying another turtwig run btu if hes gold idunno
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>>24815178
I wasn't the one who made it, I just saved it to post when needed. Sorry anon.
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>>24815178
Chespin has Rollout and Twin Needle.

Fennekin has Psybeam the moment you start the game.

I played the game with Mudkip/Torchic and both barely to never learn any worthwhile moves by leveling up. I beat the game with nearly the same moveset as when I started.
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Which starter has the cutest model?
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>Wailord used Hydro Pump!

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>24815213
Chespin is absolute carry tier with rollout and pin missile from the word go, and his enormous movepool later on when you unlock Hawlucha's move tutor stuff. Shoutouts to bulk up and drain punch.
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>>24815232
Also, which movesets are you using for your starter and partner?
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>>24815232
Chespin

>>24815243
Chespin has Rollout/Vine Whip/Pin Missile/Powerup Punch. Cyndaquil has Flamethrower/Heat Wave/Double Kick/Rollout
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>And...
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>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Ally Reviver Emera!
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>>24815286
>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Awakening Emera!
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So I can't use Cofagrigus' ominous wind move, but it has no status conditions and it still has PP. What locked me out of the move and how do I fix it?
It's been this way for a few floors.
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>>24815286
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>>24815286
>>24815290
>The Emera Crush Trap destroyed the Lucky Charm Emera!
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>>24815286
The Emera Swap Trap turned the Lucky Charm Emera into the Piercing Throw Emera!
>there are vitamins in the dungeon
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You can get 3 Lucarios and 7 Blazikens in this game. Along with 6 Raichus, there are 5 Venasaurs and Meganiums whereas the rest of the starters are 4.
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>want the move variety that comes with being Delphox
>but want to stay qt Braxien
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Remember to have fun!
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i just finished up the air continent dungeon (still mid story) should i go mist, sand, or grass continent? And what should i do on each?
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>>24814994
Shitty offensive moves aside, Turtwig's Curse can be fucking broken.

I limit myself to one use per floor outside bosses though.
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Post your favorite PMD music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-8nVAVXOA

So eerie and chill.
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>>24815563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBl3NqVnWbo
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>>24815563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIY8aKg4sOw
FUCKING AMBIENCE

I can't put my finger on what's so amazing about it exactly. It's so profoundly... something.

You miss out by not having headphones on while it plays though. Kinda sucks how nothing Nintendo goes very loud anyway, but at least the bass is there.
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>>24815576
I'm dying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqTjkwiUNA
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>>24815563
How can I choose? Here's the first three that came to mind, anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2UX63M1mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHgw1CJGi9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtcp30JUfhY
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>>24814994
Where is human?
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>>24815295
Ban seed?
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Time for another attempt or two!

First reply names my pokemon, within reason, so no Unown
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>>24815563
Haven't played Super yet because yuropoor, so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4b37e3Cqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbvjVLjlYaw
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>>24815640
Contrary Malamar.
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>>24815646
Alright, lets do it
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>>24815651
Make sure you have Super Power and Peck.
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>>24815563
Great Canyon was my favorite track in the original so I almost had a heart attack when I heard this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmDwvq_2SEI
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>>24815607
>Gentle Slope Cave

My nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjAUYK5xeE
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what are the pros and cons of evolving my mc and partner after the epilogue?
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>>24815681
Oh man, I forgot about that one, too. Good taste, my dude. >>24815643 also has good taste, Buried Relic was my favorite track out of Rescue Team.
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>>24815682
Pros:
>larger moveset
>possible new typing

Cons:
>no increase in stats at all
>loss of sleeping animations
>evos aren't as cute as base forms my opinion
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Is there a way to boost HP permanently besides leveling?
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>>24815696
Sitrus Berries and Life Seeds
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>>24815703
Where do you get these?
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>>24815563
Way too many songs I love, but here's a few I really like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5FWWhAlIRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnohxg2OTho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blge4fEHzoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7cGpN6IEc
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>>24815721
Quest rewards. I assume you're playing Super - I don't know if those things existed in previous titles.
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>>24815682
Really no need to evolve at all for some. I personally need to be a Torterra ASAP so I can actually learn my Ground moves.

Also I believe Sinnoh's starter final forms are just unparalleled in coolness. But there are cuter first forms than them.
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Gave up on floor 5. I got utterly fucked over by PP Leech Traps, going to try again
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>>24815688
>>24815759
hmm....will they still eat at the dinner table animation?
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>>24815767
I hear they do, but i don't know for sure
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>>24815767
Yes, evolutions still have the eating animation.
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>>24815761
>spawned next to a Kricketune that 2shot me

At least ZIS waited a few floors before fucking you
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>>24815776
well fuck now im torn between cute charmander and cool charmeleon
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>>24815761
I got fucked up on floor 4 by a Bunnelby eating a Joy Seed, evolving into Diggersby, that little shit using Swords Dance, my Super Power missing, and then getting my shit kicked in.
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>>24815791
Sky had
>less hunger draining
>more good items
>generally more PP
>attacks hit harder


It just feels like there's no real great strategy that can win for you at least 25% of the time.
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>>24815802
Has Sacred Ruins ever been beaten ONCE? The furthest I've gotten is 11 floors in before getting 2HKO'd by generic mobs.
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>>24815813
This is why I'm trying out any pokemon people tell me to. Every pokemon save the genies because i absolutely refuse to use those ever gets tested in this place, in a search for the best.
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>>24815821
Also something I'm REALLY hating, is there are so many pokemon that have 5+ starting moves when you enter these dungeons. I'm forced to reset many times for the right moveset.
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>>24815835
Charizard's a nightmare to plan, it's like a 1/126 chance of getting the ideal moveset. Raticate seems kinda cute, though, it gets Swords Dance and Quick Attack.
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>>24815802
>>24815791
>>24815813
This "Sacred Ruins"...

How does it compare to Joyous Tower and Destiny Tower?
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>>24815860
39f, but there are no easy tactics like Smoochum and Drifblim. Weaker moves as a whole due to changed mechanics making base power matter more, and TM's are extremely rare.
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>>24815785
I will never understand why people choose not to evolve just because of a short, pointless animation. Evolution can add a new type for more STAB and a wider movepool, both of which can make exploring dungeons easier. The animations last for a couple seconds and add nothing at all.
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>>24815887
I evolved my partner because wartortle is objectively superior to squirtle
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>>24815887
Chespin's not as cute as chesnaught
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>>24815876
What's the deal with Smoochum? Does it have good starting moves or high base stats?
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>>24815932
Smoochum has FOREWARN. This allows it to have a random chance to dodge ANY attack, even Swift. It activates a lot of the time, i want to think maybe 30%, but that's a guess. Combine with a Detect Band and your evasiveness is through the roof.

It also gets Powder Snow. Shit in SMD, godly in Sky because it hits the whole room in that. Also, Sweet Kiss to incapacitate foes.
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>>24815903
objectively false
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>>24815903
Mein Nigger
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Anyone got the screenshot of Quilladin when you recruit them and they ask about "bodies slightly on the chubby side"?
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>>24815903
>>24815946
>>24815962
Well this is embarrassing.


I actually meant to say that Chespin is cuter, but I completely fucked it up
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>>24815997
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>>24815997
that's more like it
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>>24816002
Rest assured i still like Chesnaught.

I just like Chespin more
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>>24816015
The damage is done, Senpai
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What's your favorite dungeon name?

I think Darknight Relic sounds pretty cool. Joyous Tower, too.
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>>24816027
>Joyous Tower with no space on the team

You won't be recruiting anything that way, unless they're there to be bodyguards until the higher floors.
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>>24816027
Tiny Woods.
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>>24816035
This isn't my screenshot, anon. Nobody with any sense would name their pokemon "1337".
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>>24816056
FUCK chespin
not literally.
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>>24816066
hug chespin
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>suddenly Amoongus appears and deals 8x the damage of everyone else
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>>24816097
What floor was that for you? Happened to me on 11.
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>>24816109
Just about there.
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>>24815011
If I remember right, that was made with only how well they do during the story in mind.
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Something's wrong, Superpower is lowering my stats, but Amoongus using Sweet Scene is upping my evasiveness.
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>>24816129
Weird. Poor coding in the game, maybe? Super Power increased my stats when I used it.
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>>24816135
Oh it buffed my stats earlier, no question. But past a point, it just isn't. Sweet Scent still buffs my evade, though. I thought it was due to Sawk, but one was in front of me when a mon used Sweet Scent.
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>>24816146
What's the furthest you've gotten so far?
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>>24816129
>>24816135
There was a time when my Water Looplet literally didn't work at all on one specific team member but worked normally on the other 2. I clearly hold the looplet on THAT one specific Pokemon, but it didn't work only for said Pokemon, but work for the others. Why?
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Is there a specifically good way to farm gold bars? All I got is that sparkles ~~~seem~~~ to appear more often the lower you go, so going to a deep dungeon might work out well?
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>>24816150
It just ended. Floor 27F. A Braixen hit me with a Truant wand earlier in the floor, and i ran out of wands that could be useful. I was at 40HP or so from a Two-Edged Wand because i needed it to attack with, and got hit by Crunch.


Excellent starting moveset and ability, Contrary Superpower is a huge boon, and you can use Reflect to buff your defense for a bit should you get cornered. You'll need to reset until you get the right moveset though, you NEED Superpower. Has the ability to move through water as well. Even without using Superpower you'll likely get buffs randomly from Growl and Tail Whip, a huge help. But, be careful, after a point, it seems like Superpower stops buffing your stats somewhere around 20F, and I have yet to find out why.

If anybody can find a reason this happens, please tell me. It didn't work on Mightyena because of the Truant Wand, but everything before then, I haven't the faintest clue.
Who do I use next?
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>>24816173
Chespin? Seems like a good contender with its starting movepool.
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>>24816173
Raticate could work, if you get Swords Dance and Quick Attack.
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>>24816168
Only thing I can tell is that Monster Houses tend to have a lot of sparkles. You can trades 100 of a specific item for one bar too, so there is a reason to collect a lot of Gravelrocks.
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whats the best way to grind for gold bars?
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>>24816179
I'll give this a shot.

>>24816183
This afterwards
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>>24816188
Do you have all your pokemon ratings stored somewhere?
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>>24816213
Yes and no. I'm writing this all down in a notepad file, but the pastebin needs updating.


Chespin gave up on floor 3. Walked into a monster house, where a Bunnelby used Agility.


Starts with Vine Whip/Tackle/Growl. Basic, but at least you have a little bit of range. Nothing gamebreaking, but gamebreaking is needed for Sacred Ruins, leaving Chespin a bad choice for this.
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>>24816231
Made a pastebin with my rankings so far, very much a work in progress since I've only done 6 Pokemon. http://pastebin.com/LhN6Q18N

Raticate is up next
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>>24816239
Another one I've looked into is Ninetales, the move set isn't fantastic, but it can get some work done. 2/5 chance you'll get the ideal move set.
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>>24816239
>1st floor Warp Looplet

Tell me this is happening, please.
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>>24816260
Not 'til you hit 10 or you get a TM that allows you to damage Ghosts. I have little faith in Raticate, sorry.
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>powder snow no longer hits everyone
why god
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>mfw Meteorite Crater
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Raticate died on floor 9 from a Machoke's Karate Chop. Are the pokemon in this slightly randomized? Sometimes I see pokemon i haven't seen in other runs, like Chatot and Stunfisk.


Starts with Swords Dance and Quick Attack, very good. What's NOT good is the lack of anything to hit ghosts with. I got this far with a Warp Looplet.


Who's next?
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>>24816314
Have you tried the classic Alakazam with teleport?
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>>24816325
Alakazam was the best choice in Rescue Team, but now that Teleport is nerfed and has less PP, I have little hope. I will, however, attempt it anyways
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What's the fast command for Look Around?
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>>24816325
Died floor 2 to Kricketune's Fury Cutter

Once the best choice way back in Rescue Team, Alakazam has fallen far from grace. Teleport has very little PP, with a measly 8 uses. You have nothing that can touch Houndour apart from your little weak A tap, and with so many pokemon strong against Psychic, combined with Zam's paper defense, there's no hope for this pokemon.


Next victim, please.


>>24816379
Hold Y then press B
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>>24816337
Want to try Clawitzer after that? Water Gun/Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse/Dark Pulse with Mega Launcher doesn't sound too shabby.
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>>24816389
It's unavailable, but i can just jump into the Sacred Ruins from the Nexux and Give up to hurry it up.
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>>24816383
Rip Zam

Your legacy lives on
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>>24816408
Ninetales? I'll look for some more serious candidates.
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>>24816421
Shit, someone said that before. I'll do it after Clawitzer.
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>>24816426
Same anon that suggested Ninetales. Problem with it is it's a 1/5 chance to get the ideal moveset (Flamethrower, Nasty Plot, Quick Attack). Without this, you're dead to Flash Fire, a Ghost type, or lack any real damage. God forbid if there is a Litwick or similar in this place.
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>>24814662
Try reading what I said again. I just wanted my physical appearance to reflect how beefy my stats are getting up from leveling up and downing vitamins as we take these Legendaries down one by one. Going through that awkward middle stage phase now. Can't wait to evolve again to gain my dual-typings Turtwig with Froakie Partner, what quiz gave me and access to better moves.

Also, since I randomly ended up with Turtwig, that feels super appropriate for the story considering it involves a giant tree, so it'll be like I'm growing a spare Tree of Life on my back.
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>>24816445
I'm no stranger to resetting, I'm doing it with Clawitzer. 6 Start moves, 2 of which are heal pulse/SPLASH
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Is it possible to get hidden abilities in the new game?
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>>24816471
No, it is not.
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>>24816469
Two others that look interesting are Venomoth and Dugtrio.

Venomoth has Quiver Dance, Bug Buzz, and Silver Wind, but the reset looks stupid to get the right moves. 4/35 chance of getting the right Venomoth.

Dugtrio has Rototiller, and if I'm not mistaken, that triples speed in PSMD. Night Slash to deal with the Ghosts, Tri-Attack for everything else. 1/5 chance of getting the right Dugtrio.
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>>24816515
Venomoth does seem really good, but Rototiller only affects grass types and Night Slash, Tri Attack, and Scratch probably won't help a physical ground type too much.
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there's like ten thousand of these
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>>24816622
/r/ing chandelure because its facial expressions are great
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>the letters on leaving the village

FUCK I DIDNT COME HERE FOR FEELS
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>>24816656
>He didn't come to PMD for feels
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Died floor 10 to a Machoke's Low Kick. It's such bullshit how they throw random pokemon into the floors that are about triple the strength of every other enemy on the floor. It makes you feel like they barely even bothered with these dungeons.

Another pokemon with 6 starting moves, only 4 of which are any good as 2 are Splash/Heal Pulse. Mega Launcher is a very good ability, and this makes Clawitzer a good choice, but you'll have to reset upwards of a dozen times for the right moveset.


Ninetales now
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>>24816680
It felt like most of the overpowered Pokemon were usually asleep, so if you didn't disturb their rest, you could sneak right past them.
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>>24816703
Machoke wasn't. Amoongus wasn't. Delphox and Mightyena weren't either.
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>>24816680
>It makes you feel like they barely even bothered with these dungeons.
this is most dungeons though
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>>24816706
>>24816709

This dungeon feels insane. I'm seriously wondering if it's possible at all.
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>>24816622
What did you use to extract the portraits anon? I've been trying to do it for days.
I really want the Cyndaquil line ones.
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>>24816680
Is this in the Sacred Ruins?
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Calling it quits for Ninetales without even getting past floor 1. After reading the below, you'll understand why.

Starts with 6 moves, so here's yet another pokemon you'll have to reset for, and the only offensive moves are Flamethrower/Quick Attack. Nasty Plot can make Flamethrower hit hard, but with such few attacks, Ninetales is a waste of time that is far too reliant on TM's, which are excessively rare.

>>24816738
Yes.
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Good partner for Chespin?
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>>24816799
Fenni for Psybeam
Or pretty much anyone
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>>24816755
Going with Raikou, time to see how a legendary fares here. Looks promising, Leer/Bite/Extrasensory/Discharge
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>>24816713
Furthest I made it was floor 24 with Drifblim having Gust/Minimize/Phantom Force/Astonish.


Keldeo was good but I severely fucked up with it as it was one of my first runs. Was killing monster houses, and any enemy I came across. Found a damn Surf TM too. I was so set but I got cocky. That was before I knew that this wasn't going to be like other dungeons.
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>>24816622
>>24816715
i'll find these portraits when i get home.
i used a tool i wrote myself.
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>>24816814
Floor 8, Bellossom spamming Leaf Storm. Pure fucking horseshit that you can go all these floors with enemies dealing maybe 20 damage MAX, and then this piece of this waddles up and hits you for 75.

Extremely good moveset, including Extrasensory, the room hitting Discharge, and the Ghost hitting Bite. No normal Electric attack like Thundershock until level 8, and chances are you'll want to save Discharge for large rooms. High starting stats, but takes awhile to level up. Despite this, Raikou has some serious potential.


Give me another mon to slaughter
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>>24816854
Can you upload a rar file with all those portraits? I've been ready for this ever since release date.
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>>24816874
How about Noivern?
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>>24816894
I can try, but I'm getting pretty damn demoralized. At least with ZIS there were only a few that were so much stronger, and even then you could hit them decently hard.
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>>24816894
>>24816902
This is already going to be hell. Seven different starting moves.
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>>24816919
>seven

OH i was wrong. Leech Life is level 5. EIGHT
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>>24816939
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>>24816959
No i'm not doing this. I calculated the odds, and getting what i want has an astronomically low chance

The fucking NIGHTMARE of rerolling. EIGHT different starting moves. By the time you get done rerolling for the moves you want, you could have tried out like 20 different Pokemon. Pass on this mon solely due to the waste of time that is the reset
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>>24816874
octillary is my go-to-mon for those dungeons.
try him
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>>24817000
Octillery was a good choice for Zero Isle, at least the ones with a team.

Six rerollable moves, but they're good so it's not so bad
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>Thought people were saying Ampharos was a she before the game came out
>Ampharos is a he in game
>Go on mission with Chatot
>Chatot refers to Wigglytuff as "she"

Did I miss something?
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>>24817031
That's pretty much the only mistake in the game, short one letter.
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>>24816988
>>24816939
I'm trying Eelektross right now and it has fucking TEN
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Anyone knows the effective radius of room-hitting moves while the user is in a corridor?
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>>24817049
Fuck off, which ones?

Share results and give descriptions on how things work, 717 pokemon are a fucking load to go through.
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>>24817059
Thrash, Zap Cannon, Gastro Acid, Coil, Ion Deluge, Crush Claw, Headbutt, Acid, Discharge, and Crunch.

I just got Crush Claw/Discharge/Zap Cannon/Coil and I'm going to try it. This is my first Sacred Ruins run so it probably won't end well.
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>>24817082
Beware of Delphox/Machoke/Mighyena/Bellossom/Alomomola
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>>24817084
>>24817082
>ditto crits me for 40 damage with zap cannon on floor 2
>die

epic
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>use Earthquake with type bulldozer equipped
fuck
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>>24817084
If you're done with your current run, think you can test out Medicham, Altaria, or Heracross?

Medicham's starting movepool doesn't look too bad consisting of elemental punches and Zen Headbutt, though you'll have to reset a bit. It also seems that it has a short level up.

Altaria looks decent if you're fine with being stuck with Flying-type attacks for a while (including Sky Attack) and gets Fury Attack at level 10.

Heracross has Bullet Seed, Arm Thrust, and Tackle for long-range, power, and PP saving respectively.
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>>24817122
I might be taking a break after Octillery. This dungeon's demoralizing as shit and frankly I'd rather tackle Destiny Tower again
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I'm a grass type and the water types in submerged cave are still owning me.
Heeeeaaalp
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>>24817144
Coming
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I got sniped by a Psybeam that took exactly all my HP.

Six rerollable moves, but nearly all are good, the exception being Constrict. Many ranged attacks, but sadly nothing brokenly good.

Done for tonight, I'll try again tomorrow once I have a little more hope for things.
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>>24817153
Don't give up!
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>>24817153
Eelektross seems really good. I'm on floor 11 of trial 2
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>>24817153
I'd have even more motivation, but as far as i can tell, there's no reward at all. The other level 1 dungeons didn't, and I don't see this being different, unless there's a reward for clearing every dungeon in the game.

>>24817158
I'm not, but it's fucking rough. There ARE many pokemon to try out, but the best so far is Malamar. With the right wands, you might have a shot, but what the fuck is with Contrary breaking?
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>>24817144
Done, Stayaway Wands will be more useful to you here than a reviver seed.
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>>24817144
Done
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>>24817178
I better give you something!
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>>24816879
will do when i get back, check back in 6 hours or so
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>>24816655
i just realized i replied wrongly oops, see >>24817222
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>spawn on a new floor
>6 wonder tiles, 2 training tiles, 2 sparkling spots, 2 enemies and the stairs in one room
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>>24817134
I hear ya. You look like you've been doing this for hours. I would've quit hours ago if it were up to me, shiet.
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>>24817237
>Luminous Orb
>There's a shit ton of items where the stairs are
>It's a very small room
>That'sbait.gif
>Go everywhere else before heading to the stairs
>Enter the room
>Nothing happens
>Mfw there was just a room with a shit ton of items and sparkles
Man, this game destroy the concept of trust
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>>24817266
>that first connection mission with the monster house
>the next one you do comments how you probably thought it'd be a monster house
>I've yet to do another where it was a monster house again
>every single time I prepare for the worst case scenario
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>>24817266
diggity
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>>24817266
>secret base mission
>"You thought this was going to be a monster house? Don't be ridiculous!"
>jk i fooled u lmao
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>Use an Action Replay code to give a mon max IQ
>It gets all the skills, but there isn't a star next to the permanent ones (max HP +10, etc.) like there should be
>Have to release the Pokemon because it bares a mark of shame

FUCK

Now I'm trying to find one that'll fill my inventory with Wonder Gummis.

I know this makes me a faggot, but the gummi grind is hard enough for one team of Pokemon, let alone the ten or so guys I want to use sometimes
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>>24817283
why bother breaking the game that much? it can't possibly be fun being that needlessly overpowered
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What if (actual spoilers) your starter gains the ability to learn all TMs and Hawlucha tutor attacks after completing the epilogue and separating him from Mew
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>>24817293
>he doesn't want to be the very best

Nah, but seriously, starting from scratch and spending time to become "the best" is sorta fun for some people.

If you don't wanna break the game, you can always try maining other mons or characters.
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>>24817277
>Trust Sudowoodo's sekret club to not be a Monster House
>Mfw "silly bitch"
I TRUSTED YOU
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
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>>24817174
>>24817167
I died to an Amoongus on floor 25. I didn't think it'd be able to take an entire Thrash at the amount of health it had left.

Discharge/Zap Cannon/Thrash/Coil worked very well, but mainly because I found emera such as Status Mirror and Confusion Guard. Discharge and Zap Cannon are pretty much necessary, but you can be flexible with the other 2 moves because there are 10 it can start with.

Probably not the best, but still very good
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>>24817293
I suck at games. Even without cheating, I'd definitely max out the IQs of a few Pokemon like Palkia and Mew. I just want to max them and my favourites. Besides, I'm not altering their other stats. That would really be going overboard.
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>>24817315
>pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~
>pseudo~pseudo~pseudo~
>pseudo~
>SUUDO
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>>24817174
I don't know about actually reaching the final floor of every dungeon in the game but I went ahead and just died in Sacred Ruins to see if 100% "completion" for every dungeon would do anything and it does.
You are able to choose where you want to go from the Pokemon Nexus, instead of having to use Lapras.
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>>24817345
You've got to be fucking kidding me. The reward for completing every dungeon in the game to complete the map is to have the dungeon selection be the same as it was in the previous games, rather than the fucking tedious mess it is now?

Fuck, I'm mad.
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>>24817372
>completing

You could just select "give up" on floor 1 and get the check mark
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>>24817375
That's still pretty bad as a "prize", especially when Pelliper Island exists.
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>>24817345
>You are able to choose where you want to go from the Pokemon Nexus, instead of having to use Lapras.
>>>>>That's it
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>>24817401
That's for just entering the dungeons. It's yet to be known if they do anything after beating them all
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You know what would have been interesting? If there had been little Special Episode-like things that focused on all of the different continents, because they all kinda felt like afterthoughts; they could very easily have slapped everything on one big landmass and nothing would have changed.
I just wish they had more to them other than "they have towns through which you can go to dungeons".
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>>24817439
We need episode for the Expedition Society members.
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>>24817453
>Bunnelby in the postgame: "Oh, I've lost something..."
>we'll never find out what it was
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>>24817453
We need an episode that gives Swirlex anything but just "muh food"
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>>24817463
Swirlix is a lost cause

Other society members would be cool though
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>>24817456
His virginity
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>>24817510
>Implying any of the girls would even consider taking such a thing from him
>When based Amphy and Buizel exist
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>>24817518
>implying Dedenne and Mawile aren't shagging anyway
>implying Jirachi is ever awake to bone
>implying Buizel isn't a huge faggot
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>>24817526
>Implying Jirachi cares about boning when he can just dream with no interruptions
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>>24817518
Hey, some girls like losers.

R-right?
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>>24817533
>he
I actually didn't know Jirachi was a guy
i thought she was so cute
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I just want an episode explaining how Ampharos got to know Jirachi and Celebi so well. Dude literally lives with Jirachi and has both of them on speed dial when he needs them to pop off
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>>24817539
You're not alone on that
We both fell for the greatest ruse of our time
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>>24817538
You're only chance is Hamster Pikachu. Mawile's out of your league
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If anyone is looking for a reliable dungeon for steali- err I mean purchase rainbow TMs I'd recommend Waterfall Basin Groto on Water Continent. Kecleon shop has been on the 16th floor every time, and often carries at least 1.

If you're feeling naughty then equip the Satiated Looplet with a ghost type Pokemon that can walk through walls. I've found Rotom base form to be the best since it also has Levitate, as well as room attacks.
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How much do the move boosting drinks help?
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>>24817541
he also knows a Mawile that could fight entai.
dude's got connections
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>>24817585
you tell me
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So anons, how much should I roid up my mons for the never hungry dungeons? I'm aiming for the Satiated Looplet.
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>tfw found a code that maxes IQ with just one gummi and leaves no traces of cheating

Fuck your gummis, I'm not giving my Pokemon diabetes.

I had to use my 2004 DS which is finally starting to fail after over a decade -- Battery charge doesn't hold, touch screen goes off by itself in random places, shoulder buttons sometimes fail, takes several attempt to read the AR cart

;~;
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>>24817659
What is it?
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>>24817673
1201197E 0000E1C9

You have to feed it a gummi outside of a dungeon, like in town. The only downside is that they won't get the gradual random stat increases from being fed hundreds of gummis.
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>>24817688
Thanks! Also, sorry about your DS. Mine's worse, since it can't use LR buttons, the part that connects the top and bottom screen is floppy, nd can' read any od my game cards.
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>>24817722
Damn, why even hang on to it?
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>>24817603
Oh, you can't boost power to past the normal width of the bar?

In Gates you could boost moves to the point that they would roflstomp everything. Pic related.
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>>24817740
I use it as a spare alarm clock.
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So I've finally connected with everyone but Arceus. Anyone got any tips I can play around with for Destiny Tower? Anything is appreciated.
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>>24817795
Get the Satiated Looplet. Attack in front of you with the A attack in rooms, if there's a trap there, this uncovers the trap. Bring a lot of Max Elixers, Reviver Seeds, and Guiding Wands. Most importantly, Stayaway Wands.
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>>24817659
You CAN get a shiny refurbished DS Lite at Gamestop for like $40-70, yknow.

It's handy for emulating and RNG abuse if you're into those.
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As much as I'm liking PSMD, it just makes me want to play Sky again...
>tfw can't find the cart
>tfw laptop is too much of a potato to run even fucking desmume
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>>24817852
Desmume is terribly slow.

Try NO$GBA, it even outperforms native Desmume on Linux when running in Wine.
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So I went to pokemon.com to watch the Hoopa shorts, and then watched the related PMD shorts out of boredom.

why does everybody besides Grovyle (Dan Green) sound awful? I get mystery dungeon characters are supposed to be quirky, but still
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>>24817858
I'll check it out, thank you!
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Volcanion DLC when
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>>24817875
don't watch dubs
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It's my first time playing a MD game. I took the test and now I'm playing as Torchic. My partner is Pikachu. I think I fucked up becuase I don't even like those pokemons and they don't seem to be that good so far. Pikachu is alright, it does a lot of damage.

I spent all my gold on proteins for torchic but I think spa is better overall. How important is raising attack for Torchic?
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>>24817876
By the way, when I say outperforms. I mean utterly decimates in terms of performance. a 3x increase in speed is not unusual.
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>>24817805
Thanks anon. Stone Tree Mountain first it is then, and hopefully I find more Guiding Wands or Luminous Orbs in the process.
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