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/tf2g/ - Team Fortress 2 General

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>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>SERVERS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT COMP MODE
http://pastebin.com/BuG8yM2j
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Have you accepted that Pyro will win?

How many points does Heavy need to break even? like, 40,000?
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http://roshambo.me/play/165505-u6d/

face me the mji rps champ in glorious combat
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/520609

http://goo.
gl/forms/fFUkqix52jo52Q5F2
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>set decals to 50
>activate minmode
>quit tf2
>start it up again hours later
>options reset
why
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>>147992674
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easy win

go again

http://roshambo.me/play/165509-lkv/
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>>147992889
I wish Granberia was real.
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>>147992956
THICCCCCC
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>>147992912
u can't even tell what im throwing holmes
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>>147993068
>>147993025
>>147992956
>>147992918
>>147992912
>>147992889
>>147992674
>>>/trash/tf2
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well played

go again

http://roshambo.me/play/165511-h1a/
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Paper!
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what mercenary would you nap with
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>>147993219
>>147993218
>>147993169
>>147993068
>>147993025
>>147992956
>>147992918
>>147992917
>>147992912
>>147992889
>>147992693
>>147992674
MODS?????????????
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Magic Missile!
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this is a best of 5 for all the marbles

if I lose the next one i will depart tf2g forever

http://roshambo.me/play/165513-13l/
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Last thread fags posted their scouts. Post your soldiers in this thread. We're going down the list
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NERF ROCK WHEN

LITERALLY GAME BREAKING
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christ

http://roshambo.me/play/165515-lva/
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what the fuck is going on here
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Spell throw: Whatever you played is actually a gun pointed at you!
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>>147993465
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Dragon girls are the best.
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Good old tf2 related posts
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i threw so hard

jesus

you win video games
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>>147993465
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Good games, let's grab a coke!
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>>147993816
just jealous you're locked out of our cool games!
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>>147993816
post some tf2 then
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>>147993907
I love roshambo
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>>147994060
what the fuck no spoiler?
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>>147994060
PAPER
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good games

let me know if you guys play overwatch again
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>>147993887
mmm
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>>147994114
Well played
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tfw can't use this image anymore
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>>147994306
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>>147993680
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>>147993790
more?
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>>147994306
when could you use it before
what even is this
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>>147994421
new? /v/?
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>rock paper scrissor has more competitive esport potential than tf2 comp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHuOHPjxmaQ
help this is amazing
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>>147994421
the filename of this picture is 'you trying to be involved but not'
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>Who is not Reddit?
>Sound off if you're Reddit!
>I am Reddit.

What did they mean by this?
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And as usual, all criticism to the game is meet with "Go back to r.eddit!/ /v/!"

Which is why we will never be a family and why we are such a bad community and the worst general on /vg/
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>>147994419
Here you go → http://queenchikkbug.tumblr.com/
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>>147993465
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>>147992674
Are you shitposting or is there an actual counter that isn't just the percentage thing?
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>>147994863
>and the worst general on /vg/
That's a shared medal
all generals on /vg/ are terrible
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>>147995160
>>147994863
Depends, its the Bioshock egneral still alive?
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>tfw you wanna DM so you don't fucking suck in comp but there's nobody playing any of the dm servers near you
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>>147995139
Check the frontpage of scrap.tf
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>>147995289
Nah, but soccer spirit, warframe and /egg/ are
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>>147994863
>this
>worst general

You don't venture out so much, do you?
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>>147993465
Just started playing recently after hearing about the update, what do you guys think?
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>>147995486
needs moar spikes
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where is mr. itor
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Thanks to whoever posted that video last night, now I know why I get killed by a heavy who I can-t even fucking see when hidden in a corner.
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is everyone's fps garbage still?
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Anyone notice you can call for MEDIC in the Victory Screen?
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>he wears a soldier hat that doesn't cover his eyes
you sicken me
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Coming back to the game after so long, thought it was still just email accepting meta. Now I gotta wait 7 days to trade properly. That or I ask one of you guys that I've been friends with for more than a year to reduce the 15 to 1 day, but I'm shy :)
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>>147992674
why are his eyes drawn over his eyelids
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>>147995710
why do some cartoons blink with their iris rather than their eyelids. Why do some cartoons have floating eyebrows. Why can jimmy neutron breathe in space.
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Why is it possible to charge your sticky launcher?
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>>147995702
>to reduce the 15 to 1 day
wait what
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>>147995917
If you trade with a friend that's been your bro for over a year steam holds the item for only one day.
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>>147992550
ded general, post your sneaky frenchmen
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>get a 5k at mid
>brag about it
>next round my friend gets a 6k
>he doesn't even mention it
now i look like a jerk
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>>147996101
that looks fucking retarded
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>>147995834
Jimmy explained that in an episode
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Night night, kids
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>>147996137
I am of the dishonored, and you never see spy hats anyway, they're either invisible or disguised
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>>147996138
Yes, while the fat kid (carl?) sang in the (foreground or background) so you couldnt hear his explanation.
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>>147996138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Qa8OEf7vo
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>>147996101
tfw only just got into dishonored because of the sale
it's an incredible game and i no longer make fun of spies who wear the mask even if it looks dumb in tf2
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Okay, picture this

A new Gunslinger for the engie that allows the placement of two "Walker Mini Sentries"
>same build time as a Mini, non boostable
>half the health of a mini
>less dmg than a mini
>less range
>can walk and makes a beeline to the map objective, otherwise it just roams
>Is slightly faster than a Heavy
>can have 2 at the same time

[spoile] Bonus, it looks cute and have voice like the Portal Turrets [/spoiler]

What would you think if it was implemented?
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>>147996221
Well it's a bit better now that you explained it to me.
>>147996339
please god no, if it weren't fucking annoying. it'd just be useless
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>>147996317
yeah there you go
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>>147996339
I would think it's stupid
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when is engi getting a platform that boosts your speed
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>>147996429
if I wasn't a po'fag I'd paint the Rouge black
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>>147996486
when is he getting this
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Vink hadebra til hodet ditt, runker.
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>>147996339
Kinda of useless since the Minies dont do much damage, but i suppose it would be good to kill people with low health that are attempting a retreat?
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>>147996827
dummy
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I have not played this game in years.

What the fuck happened
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>>147996959
hats
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>>147996959
cats
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>>147996959
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>>147996959
rats
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>>147996959
bats
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>>147996909
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>>147997104
fuck off /v/
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>>147996827
Coach Gun
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>>147996827
Pill's Here
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>>147996827
Carl Wheezer
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The competitive mode is laughably bad.

I'm actually impressed Valve fucked up this badly.
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Okay which one of you was this?
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free to play was a mistake

y/y
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>>147997696
why tf2g brother
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is doing sfm requests welcome here or is it just seen as masturbatory bullshit
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I want to do the upward exploit but it's annoying to do on pubs because you have to get it done quickly
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>>147998271
Both. It depends a lot on your skill level.
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>>147996979
Was actually there for hats- I ran that stupid command prompt script to make the servers think you were logged in to farm up a couple of the first gen. They got removed, of course, but
>all these absurd, useless weapons
>new, awful gametypes
What the shit am I looking at
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>>147998428
is this alright
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>>147998636
9
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Fucking nerf quickiebomb launcher what absolute retard thought this buff was a good idea
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>I posted this in the previous thread after it died unknowingly to me
How does the TF2 (and more specifically the TF2 Competitive i.e UGC) treat scripting? How far can you go via modding your scripts and configs before it begins to remove skill from the game? For example, I have a medic script that spams voice commands to mask my uber. I know plenty of medics use said script, is it allowed in competitive? Or, my friend recently created a script that when a pyro airblasts, it swaps automatically to his secondary and fires, would that be allowed in competitive?
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>>148000216
b4nny doesn't think it's that great

The very low clipsize makes it terrible
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>>148000834
indeed

you cant stickyspam with it
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>>147998551
f2p is where games go to die

im enjoying comp mode except for all the retards that think they should be free to alternate between pyro and spy. there's a meta for a reason and even six years out of date im closer to meta than them

worst is the engie that sets up on second point. the fight for mid is a 5v6 stomp and then six people roll in and destroy his level 2 sentry
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>>148000672
arent waits disabled on valve servers? pretty sure thats the only limitation. id never expect to be banned for simple console scripts unless i was exploiting to set cvars you're not supposed to
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>>148000834
2 stickies kill all classes below 150 hp
3 stickies kill everyone but heavy
4 kills heavy
Chasing down Medics is disgustingly easy
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why are random crits still a thing

why
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>>148001932
because they're fun :^)
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I have cerebral palsy and it's difficult to use a mouse and keyboard to play games so I resort to special gamepads to make playing feasible so there's a hard 'skill ceiling' to my play.

Now that I can't quick join pubs I can barely play effectively and constantly get paired up with wrecking crew steam rolling teams smashing my shit in all day and get blamed for losses even in casual.

Are community servers any better? Posted this in the dead thread apparently.

Also pic related.
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>>148002192
Engineer main?
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i woke up
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good morning
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>Join Casual
>2 Fort
>Build Sentry
>All of Blue comes and rapes me
>all of red is still alive running round somewhere and not dead
>intel captured 3 times
>GG

I thought matchmaking was supposed to match you to people of similar skill? Why do I keep getting masochists and apathetic quit-hards?
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>>148003128
Only overwatch has that lie.

Casual is random, but still shit
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>>148003128
CTF is a fucking joke, always has been. ESPECIALLY on 2fort.
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>>148003128
Competitive does match you with similar skill level, casual just throws you with random people.
also
>pyro voters
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>>148003128
>Thinking people would play 2fort
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I'm going to be pissed if pyro wins. I've been playing all day for heavy points
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>>148003541
same, looks like this game really is full of furfags
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>>148000834
it's now a better launcher to set traps, which means the scottish resistance is even more meaningless than before
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>>148003597
pyros will never be happy they will just bitch about the new weapon being underpowered like they always do
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>>148003541
if heavy wins i'll cry
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>>148003623
that doesnt make it """op""" at all though
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Does tf2 now require better specs?

I'm getting about 30 less frames than I did before the competitive update
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>>148003796
forced graphic settings i bet

lol at least let us disable unusual effects and stuff

fucking lazy jews
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>play DM with one guy for like 30 minutes
>get tired, say I'm gonna leave but I'll add him
>check past players but it doesn't work of course
>search name, but it's pretty generic and I don't remember what his profile pic looks like
I feel slightly sad now.
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>>147997872
y

Make TF2 Great Again
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>>148003774
I'm some other dude

It's not OP. It's just that it's a better sticky trap launcher now. It already wasn't a good choice for direct combat and now it's horrendous at it, but do them bombs deal more damage when fully charged, which is quick
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>>147998369
1. Join RED
2. exploit
3. ????
4. Profit!
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>>148004025
Yes

Just make them fizzle and 6 stickies again
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>>148004025
Wait, they no longer fizzle out? You can leave actual traps?
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>>148003874
>have to shill out more money just so i can play tf2 again

thx volvo
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>>147998636
holy shit that is pretty

can you put a steaming merryweather on that pyro?
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Thoughts on this?
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>>148004169
get a phone
ask your mom or a friend
there
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>join pl_thundermountain
>mfw there was a faggot who kept shilling heavy, and my team kept shilling pyro

i voted pyro
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>>148004272
Almost as unloved as I am
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>Meatshots still do 0 damage
why play?
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>>148003672
Pyro has literally always been the weakest class, and they got nerfed into the dirt with tough break.

Why literally anyone could still complain about him is a miracle.
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>>148004272
I like it when defending on 5cp. It's good for surprise pops, 2-3 stickies on every door frame makes roamers and flanking scouts think twice and tones down their aggression

think Techies, the weapon
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>still takes multiple minutes to find CASUAL matches
fuck this
I'll peek back every month just to see if they readdded quickplay
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>>148004372
Making him annoying/easy isn't a real fix though.
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>>148004140
they took that out. For no reason at all.

>>148004109
If it has to be the direct combat sticky launcher it should shoot faster with 6 stickies and regular damage. It'd mean putting damage faster, but you gotta reload sooner. I'd think it's a good trade off.

It's quick to shoot and quick to reload, it'd fit its name, but it's nothing like its name indicated it just hurts
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>>148004458
It takes me literal seconds, a minute at most.
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>>148004272
Just use the quickie bomb launcher for traps. If you charge them they deal more damage.

For direct combat regular stickiebomb launcher is the best
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>>148004458
Either you have shit internet or shit luck.
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>>148004462
>Making him annoying/easy
I mean, you're right, but quite a few of the classes are easy. Demo's really annoying and easy with sticky spam.
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im easy
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>>148004641
>Demo's really annoying and easy with sticky spam.
You're either a baddie or unlucky and always catch him with a medic up his ass.
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>>148004372
he needs a buff in tfc but im fine with it in tf2. most pyros are always going to be destroyed by decent soldiers anyways no matter what buffs come. barring godtier airblasts which solly can mitigate by not being ridiculously predictable
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>>148004578
>>148004472
The removal of fizzling is possibly one of the most ass-backwards changes they've ever made: They very clearly had the intent of one sticky launcher being good for offense, one for defense, and stock being proficient at both. But now that quickiebomb stickies don't dissapear and they do more damage than the sco res's, they're pretty much a better choice for setting and forgetting.
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>>148004718
>or unlucky and always catch him with a medic up his ass.
>unlucky
That implies that that isn't the norm.
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>>148004795
Then why do I never have a medic up my ass???
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Are engy players the most useless 6v6 players?

>Never help cap points
>never help defend points
>cant keep their shit alive more than 10 seconds
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>>148004827
Pub medics never heal demos.
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>>147998636
>trigger discipline on engineer

whats your price my man
post id
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>>148004836
Generally yes but sometimes on Viaduct you'll get a godly Engie that shits out damage like a madman with his shotty and mini sentry and always has a level 3 teleporter and dispenser set up somewhere good.
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>>148004641
>Demo's really easy
sounds like you're a shitter lol
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why does every faggot suddenly have #TeamPyro or #MakePyroGreat or some other faggot shit in their name
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>>148004859
You're right, now that I'm starting to play Valve's ``comp'' I get Medics way more often.
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>>148004975
To be fair I just got a 16 killstreak as demoman by standing near a choke with a medic. He's extremely easy to play in your average pub but as soon as you get into comp the skill floor jumps about 100 feet.
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>>148005041
>WAAHHH WHY ARE PEOPLE INTERACTING WITH THE NEW UPDATE INSTEAD OF BITHCING ABOUT IT
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>>148005087
who are you quoting
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Haha real funny valve but seriously when are the pubs coming back
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>>148004206
i could just make you a new one

>>148004905
i do most of them for free

http://steamcommunity.com/id/cpoug
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>you will never be matched with b4nny stack
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>>148005382
why do you want to be humiliated publicly
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>>148005374
>he does it for free

>>148005382
Earlier today we apparently played a plat-level soldier. Everyone on my team was freaking out but I wasn't familiar with him. We lost fucking instantly anyway so I didn't really see him do anything super impressive.
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POST HEAVIES
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>>148005551
what sick man send baby to fight me
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>>148005551
what is this, a heavy for tiny baby men?
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>>148005374
you serious m8?

could you pose pic related riding its flamethrower(like a motorcycle) over cp_process mid?
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>>148005551
lol
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>>148005551
what sick person sends baby men to fight me
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>>148005551
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>>148005374
medic and soldier on a map with rain?
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Thoughts on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQJbA9ZuL0
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>>148005786
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>>148005374
Added to discuss
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>>148005551
You guys like him?
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>>148005813
I watched it last year

it was ok iirc
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>>148005786
kill anime man
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>>148005907
sensible, without flashy shit 8/10

>>148005786
waifufag but at least it sort of does look like her 4/10

>>148005729
7/10 on halloween servers, 3/10 without

>>148005551
from what i can tell generic so 5/10
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>playing pyro
literally a meme class
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>>148006102
I have a feelin way less people would be playing pyro on comp if it wasnt for the stupid WAR
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>>148006075
rate me all-mighty opinion fag
Sorry, I don't have any cool weapons
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>>148005551
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>>148006075

you didn't rate mine


>>147993787

:(
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>>148005551
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>>148006201
themed is good

8/10 if you're actually using the canteen for MVM

>>148006207
gun looks terrible, modest hats though so 4/10

>>148006248
2/10 not a heavy
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>>148005729
>>148006075
once I get rich, I'm making pic related
I'm irish/scottish
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>>148006417
wifebeater/10
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>>148006358
Honestly I forget that the canteen is even visible on your character, doesn't really matter to me how it looks though. Just saves time when I very rarely play MvM.
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>drop in on game and lead team to victory
>don't get xp for my e-peen
why
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>>148006512
there's a bug where you don't get xp for joining an existing game
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DRAWINGS UPDATE when
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>know of one server in existence that runs a rotation of custom MvM maps
>it's dead now
Shit sucks man, it's actually pretty fun playing new missions on custom maps. They can do funny shit like hordes of widowmaker engies or miniature holiday punch heavies with full crits.
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>>148006546
are you sure it's not a feature?
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>>148006458
I don't see what you see to be honest, family. If I wanted a wifebeater I'd have made one
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hello veddit thread
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>>148005374
hey [email protected]
wanna be locked by steamsupport for buying hjacked account?
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>>148006592
>miniature holiday punch heavies with full crits
I didn't know how much I needed this in my life until now.
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>>148005551
Do I get a special autism award?
Bonus points if you can guess what character this is a reference to.
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>>148006701
my friend bought it for me lad but go ahead if you insist

that's only 20 dollars in games lost on my end
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>>148006702
Trust me, they were fucking annoying. Whenever they showed up we mostly cowered behind the sentry gun because I think they were paired with giant demoknights.
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>Valve knows heavy and pyro are shit
>They will only buff one

If you know they're both shit then rework both; what they're doing now will make the loser the shittiest class in the game.
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>>148006726
who is that shark henchman from James Bond?
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>>148005374
>0 hours in tf2, downloaded tf2 last week
> that decent at sfm

What the
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>>148004783
Valve really screwed up with this update.

Lackluster matchmaking. Meaningless buffs for some weapons, nonsensical buffs for others. No buffs for weapons that required buffs. No nerfs or reworks for the weapons that required them like the darwin's shield.

Valve has their heads on their asses
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>>148006828
it's an alt
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>>148006850
Reminder that this entire update stemmed directly from their commitment to listen to Reddit/B4nny on everything.
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>>148006796
Heavy is okay. All you have to rape everyone on server is avoid damage and have pocket medic. Basically it's works with all class
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>>148006931
Heavy can't operate solo though. He requires a medic to be a force to be reckoned with. Otherwise he's just a brief distraction. That's why imo heavy needs a rework more than pyro.

But even then, why not fix both. Throwing this stupid war update thing on the side just seems nonsensical. Why not release a Heavy & Pyro rework patch with this update instead?
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>>148007083
Medic can't operate solo either. Why does every character in TEAM fortress 2 need to be capable of operating solo?
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>>147997805
Scroll up in the chat box.

That's not an actual server message, just a guy typing in a shitton of spaces before the message.
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>>148007121
Medic is also the only class (except arguably engineer) who isn't intended to inflict sizable damage. Heavy should be able to do his job without relying on a medic being on the team.
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>>148005382
lmao I got put up against the banny stack today and then the truktruk stack right after.
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>>148006546
I've played two games today and neither of them have counted towards any stats
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>>148006924
Guess you can see how b4nny didn't want the machina nor darwin nerfed.

The crit a cola got a pathetic nerf because he probably uses it and doesn't use anything else that isn't stock so the sun on a stick and shortstop changes were probably from him making jokes.

He was probably mad at heavies with resisting miniguns so he issued a nerf so he can take them out easier.

I hate this banny
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>>148006924
>>148007294
Seriously what retard came up with the idea of "Well we know nothing about our game. Let's ask someone who plays the game competitively how to nerf the classes he doesn't play"
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>>148007294
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>>148006850
and retards give them MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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im a dollar
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>the Overdose does no damage after the latest patch
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>148007493
>5% less damage than before
>it sucks lololololo

?
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>>148007493
>Darwin's Danger Shield
+25 Health
Primary weapon charges 10% faster

>Sydney Sleeper
The same, with:
+15% Bullet resistance
and charge increase reduced to 15%
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>>148007493
I thought I was the only one. I'm hitting my targets and they rarely do a single chip of damage while the other syringe guns work just fine.
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>>148006458
Is this one any better
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Hey guys. How much is Strange Bigg Mann on Campus worth? Got it from crate. And nobody is selling it on Market.

%%post your offers and im gonna set this price on the market%%
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>>148007493
>>148007759
>>148007814
Why do you lie on the internet?
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>>148007841
sell it on Backpack for 3 keys
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>>148007294
>>148007360
You people are incredibly stupid if you think they just used one player's opinion to balance their multimillion dollar game.

It's well known that Valve relies heavily on weapon usage stats. People already confirmed that they only used a couple of suggestions from players they asked. The changes were pretty well-received ones, too.
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>>148007985
>if you think they just used one player's opinion to balance their multimillion dollar game.
I would seriously not be surprised if they did.

They know so little about their own games and they're trying so hard to pander to "competitive" fags that they would just go to the "competitive" people and ask them what to do.
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>>148007985
>You people are incredibly stupid if you think they just used one player's opinion to balance their multimillion dollar game.
Yeah, they used two.
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>>148007909

/stats/Strange/Bigg%20Mann%20on%20Campus/Tradable/Craftable

mhphpphhmm
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>>148007985
dude they just nerfed the two least used used miniguns for no reason
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>>148007887
not lying, I regularly use the blutsauger and got good with my shots and then tried the overdose and I saw blood but no hitreg for the most part

>>148007985
this update doesn't look like the previous 2 updates that made crazy balance changes to see what goes, it was just few, weird as fuck, minimal changes with tons of weapons that needed change being the same, because comp players don't go far and wide with their weapon selection
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b4nny stack just got matched against slin stack on cp_gorge
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>>148008062
>414 USD
I knew tf2 players were stupid, but holy shit, this exceeds every one of my expectations

>>148008179
that sounds like one hell of a game
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>>148008153
I don't think you realize comp players know which weapons are dumb. They wouldn't ban the DDS if they didn't know that.

There are entire threads on competitive forums saying that Valve made a bunch of pointless changes and didn't adjust a lot of weapons that needed it. Sound familiar?
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>>148007985
So because some retards used the brass beast despite it being abject shit they decided to nerf it?
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