I dont frequent this general much anymore but im still making the thread for you fuckers Edition
>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_1
>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp
>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!
>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)
>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation
>Old >>147263419
>>147343779
Rollan!
Best dlc
>>147343898
swap shogun and pootilla
>>147342041
repostan my earlier question
Do we have any dates when it comes to upcoming DLC/FLC? Because if CA wants us to wait until December for the Brets as rumored then thats retarded.
Also
>fantasy game
>no elves
One job CA
>>147343898
It's ok. At least Empire is finally placed right.
>>147344061
idiot shill
>mfw Tomb Kings got leaked before they got announced
lel so much for your long-waited announcement
>>147343931
HRE, right in the middle of things, lot's of ways for initial expansion and the Pope gets to hate on you
BLOOD DRAGONS AREN'T AS BROKEN AS THEY SHOULD BE
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN STRONGER THAN LAUNCH DEMIGRYPHS
FUCK YOU FOR NOT CATERING TO MY SINGLE DEMANDS CA
My game is cursed.
>>147344126
As in last*
>>147344186
Good for you
>>147344236
YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY SHOULD BE OP AS FUCK
>>147344102
YOu could try darthmod, also theres a WWI mod that you might like, if i remember correctly it increased unit size too.
But vanilla Napoleon is pretty fine as it is in my opinion.
>>147344102
LME is the only realistic choice. Darthmod (bite me) is fun too
>>147344204
Is this a hypothetical scenario to counter tombposting, or did it actually happen?
If so, what kind of leak? Just like the beastmen with a few labelled models?
>>147344109
Fuck knows when. It isn't really retarded.
anyone got the pic for rolling shogun 2 factions?
POO POO
PEE PEE
GIVE ME BEASTS AND MAKE THEM FREE
>>147344352
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.htm
it's all ogre for tombposting lad
EMPIRE FUCKING SHITS GET OUT!!
Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
>>147344308
Darthmod for Napoleon is pretty shit. It has the unwieldy fire by rank and the ai will only fire at max range(meaning no hits) until out of ammo. They may have fixed that though.
>>147343779
>the next historical total war setting
>historical
Fuck you!
40k setting!
Is there anything more useless than battering rams?
Might as well spend the manpower on more towers.
>>147344516
>>>/v/
>>>/youtube/
>>147344109
Wood Elves and their knight servants when?I fear end of the year could be true for Bretonnia, maybe they'll be released alongside the Wood Elves and their mini campaign?
Enjoying the game so far, so I just mop up Stirland now?
>>147344448
Didnt CA say that this is an older schedule/experimentation or something and shouldnt be taken into account?
>>147344448
That order of release makes a lot of sense reall-
>chaos dorfs
Oh it's just a jokeFUCK EVEN THE HYPOTHETICAL CONCEPT THAT STATES THAT OGRES ARE LESS IMPORTANT THAN EDGY STUNTIES. FUUUUUCK
>Norscans are just generic chaos dudes
would've been swell with their own roster seeing as how much you end up fighting the bastards
>>147344734
karak eight peaks campaign with gobbos, manlets and furries when?
>>147326574
Reposting this
>290x listed as compatible with dx12
>opted in to the dayzero beta
>still can't select dx12 option from launcher
>>147344849
Is that Lagertha? Havent managed to see Season 3 yet.
>>147344849
That man looks pretty feminine.
![4BD4C41EFB315BF26ABFDBBA028433D3E3A4D164[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L6keV2x.jpg "4BD4C41EFB315BF26ABFDBBA028433D3E3A4D164[1].jpg")
>>147343895
Rolling
>>147344898
You know I would really like to see the diplomacy bantz between elf (wood and high ones especially) and the dorf factions. Then lead a joint alliance to remove the archfaggot and his edgy followers
>>147345404
and then backstab the manlets, after all they deserve nothing else
>>147345404
>diplomacy bantz between elf (wood and high ones
>High Elf: *Disdainful glare*
>Wood Elf: *exhales smoke*
>>147344780
perhaps they might mix it up a bit, still gives a good general idea of whats in store and when
![2CA1F77A6788810E23713C75650B5878260DB941[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HLiHHm3.jpg "2CA1F77A6788810E23713C75650B5878260DB941[1].jpg")
>>147344516
Slitherine Studios has the license for that. Sega can't make a 40k setting, hence why we have the Fantasy one.
what
>>147345505
>backstab
Do you mean downstab?
![E30E21AF058EEE3490C0E548ABF05B7785DF0781[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/on920kG.jpg "E30E21AF058EEE3490C0E548ABF05B7785DF0781[1].jpg")
>>147345712
CA added PARTY HARD back.
>>147345106
That's his son's wife
>>147345767
>>147345404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
>Dwarves ask for a trade agreement.
>tfw
>>147344769
>Stirland pussies out and joins The Empire
>Some Dwarves raised Schwartzhaven so I got a free settlement without needing to war my Vampire "friends"
Don't want to war vs the Empire yet, might expand north or raze a bunch of Dwarven lands.
>>147346297
>gonna flagellate you with my fucking beard
still didnt get old
>>147346754
Play for play my game but I was at war with the Empire proper before they confederated. They peaced immediately after.
>>147344941
For some Iberian and African factions/Masallia, can there be a Punic War dilemma where you choose between supporting Carthage or Rome? I mean, I know the start date is towards the very end of the second Punic War so if you're sticking with that the war is basically over and everyone has already taken sides, but it'd be a cool little start to the game I feel.
Okay, can someone explain this?
I had 12 units left as the dwarves, my lord alive, and I was running everyone towards the capture point of a city. The greenskins had maybe 4 or 5 units left, all about to die with less than 10% leadership or whatever the white bar is. Most of them are still on the walls of the city. Suddenly my whole army starts routing and I lose with a numerical advantage vs the greenskins, with no enemies near me.
>>147344579
>Is there anything more useless than battering rams?
>Pick a ram for funsies
>Gets applied to my dwarf slayers
>Die before even getting half way
>Try again
>RNG this time manages to pick long beards for duty
>Two nearby enemy towers and one wall section are down from 2 grudge throwers and 2 canons before the gate busts from the battering ram
Yeah, dire need of a speed upgrade.
>>147347249
>RNG this time manages to pick long beards for duty
you know that you can assign siege engines to whoever the fuck you want, right
>>147347249
>rng selects them
lad...
>>147347249
I really hope you're joking
>>147347249
>Muh Lady
>>147347562
what are those units?
I just now started my VC campaign and I'm quite clueless of what to do with Carsteins skilltree
How do I build this guy?
>>147347634
grab fate of bjuna and then build him killy
>play Attila with Fall of the Eagles
>it's okay, dig what they're doing with the unit recruitment
>having a rough time as the lombards, had to raze two of my conquered cities to avoid issues
>issues could not be avoided
>civil war and enemy army has 4 units
>one of them looks tough but I'm sure my army with his 7 unit army can deal with it
>commander unit is a tier 3 heavy melee infantry with 3 bronze chevrons
>literally can not dent it, it killed my king and the rest of my unit, it only lost men from being pelted by javelins
>after all that effort, it stands at 84/164 and with a silver chevron to laugh at me
ALT+F4 because I'm a wroth fuck that can't lose against bullshit. I was so mad, I'll go back and autoresolve it.
>>147347360
I'm new to this series and the links Op provide never says anything about this.
Live and learn, I guess.
>>147347634
Spirit leech and fate of bjuna are a must. For the rest you can do whatever, as long as he gets his dragon later. Making him killy as >>147347734 said is good cause he can solo a lot of shit.
>you will never go hunting in the woods, suddenly reaching a coast and seeing a mass of elven ships, only to be magichandled by a Dark Elven mistress and chained up under her cabin to be abused by her
>>147347627
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=697661736
>>147347785
wait until Attila spawns,then the elite unit ride will really get going
>>147347829
>>147347734
thanks for the help guys, gonna have a blast now
building him killy won't be hard coming out of an orc campaign
>>147347812
We all did this stupid shit in our first total war game I guess.
>>147348002
No we didn't, don't defend the idiot.
>>147343895
rollin
What mods are must get?
>>147348126
better camera
radious
>>147348089
Calm down with the add_money lad.
>>147348126
On higher diffculties: Something that limits or just stops agents. They ruin so much late game.
>Mork is now considerably Morkier.
>still +3 fightiness for mork and +4 for gork
what the shit CA
>Grimgor all up in my shit in the south
>Feral orcs spawning willy nilly inside the empire
>Norscan raiders shitting out armies faster and posing a bigger threat than Archaon ever did in the north
>Bretcucks end their alliances now that Chaos is "gone"
>Dorfs stop trading for whatever reason
>Border Princes seemingly fixing to start some shit, even with ork hordes on their obrders
>Kislev with it's single shitty town surrounded by a land of ruins starting shit
How am I supposed to deal with this 4 front war now that I'm in control of the whole empire after rescuing and annexing the shitty mismanaged counties from the other counts, the extra tax for extra army stacks seems retarded.
>>147343895
rollin
>>147348427
>3x4
>4x3
>>147348427
>4x3 or 3x4
>>147348593
>>147348594
>mfw I realized that as soon as I tabbed back in from posting
>>147347830
"I heard someone talking about Druchii ships?"
>>147348427
>>147348593
>>147348594
I don't play ork, what?
>Grimgor doesn't get a mount
>>147347249
You can choose which unit uses the siege engine
>>147348925
gets in da way of smashin you git
>>147348925
>implying Grimgore needs assistance to be DA BEST!
>>147348779
The twin orc gods are basically identical but still distinctly separate, it embodies their tendency to fight over literally nothing
And events represent that, one giving you four turns of three integrity, and one giving you three turns of four integrity. etc.
>>147348993
>You can choose which unit uses the siege engine
Too late for that now that my dwai campaign is 100% complete after 206turns. I'll let the game chill on the barbie for a while before picking it up again. Was playing on all low settings cause of my out dated GPU, which I'll replace in autumn, hopefully to a slew of new DEELc by then.
>>147348925
>bein' dis much uvva zoggin' git
>>147345657
Good, 40k is played out
>>147346754
It begins
>>147345657
Pretty sure that no one has the complete 40k license. They've been giving that shit out bit by bit after THQ got krumped
>gobbo spears dont even get bonus vs large
in what situation would you not just sack up and pay the extra 30 per turn for boyz?
>>147349684
Oh boy. All I did was colonise an Ostermark settlement that got razed by a Waagh
>>147347830
The thing is that the abuse in question is likely to be chopping off your dick and your feet and feeding them to a cold one
>>147349782
Is there any reason in this game to buy Night Goblins? Honestly, Orcs just feel like you buy Boys until you can buy Black Orcs and Giants.
Goblins are shit, Big Uns are shit, Archers are shit, Spearmen are shit.
>>147348779
An event, you choose which ork god is superior. The rewards are effectively identical.
It's probably part of a running gag, the orcs (and space orks) have trouble telling which one is which. It's pretty common to read some variation on "He was blessed by Gork! (Or possibly Mork.)
The game Gorkamorka is about a bunch of orks who crash landed on a desert world, gathering the scrap from the wreckage to build a machine to fly/teleport/walk whatever off the planet and back into the WAAAGH!!!
Eventually it started looking like one of their gods and the backdrop of the game is the civil war that broke out when they tried to decide which one.
>>147349916
Maybe he's into that? I've seen people admit to weirder shit on /d/.
>>147349489
>>147350074
So who's better?
>>147345657
Where've you been living?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZgyNoHtjw
>>147350137
Well, one is brutally cunning
But the other is cunningly brutal.
>>147349782
I wonder if goblin spears have a larger attack range like empire spear/halberds. Maybe they do well if you squeeze them into a frontline orc unit.
>>147350137
As the first post you're replying to, I'm a gork man myself.
>>147350137
Mork is da best cuz hez brutally cunning.
>>147350194
10/10 trailer but the game looks like complete ass.
>>147350137
Gork iz brutal but kunnin.' He hits you when you'z lookin'
Mork iz kunnin' but brutal. He hits you when you ain't.It's pretty much Orc skub.
>>147350339
Who cares, wh40k will still buy it anyway
>>147350339
I hate when games do this, but it seems to happen almost every time someone make an artistic trailer.
>get told East Romans is easy mode in SS for MTW2
>go for it because first time playing MTW2
>conquer all the rebel settlements in the balkans, no problem so far
>"hey this is pretty fun, easy going so far, wish i had some more of a challenge though"
>Venice declares war despite our ongoing trade relations
>JIHAD CALLED
>CONSTANTINOPLE
>THE FOLLOWING FACTIONS ARE NOW AT WAR WITH (BYZANTINES):
>TURKS
>EGYPTIANS
>PERSIANS
>MOORS
>Sicily declares war
>RELATIONS WORSED WITH PAPAL STATE:
>VERY POOR
>defend waves upon waves of garbage tier Mujihadeen armies, repel the Sicilians from Albania once per turn, take Belgrade and Ragusa from Venice and try to hold, for what feels like 30 turns, but they always keep coming
>no end in sight
>no fun in sight
Guess I'm gonna do England after all
>>147350137
The one that gives you 3x 4 days because it lasts 1 more day
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT _____
>4th fucking blood dlc
>>147350447
The trailer got the setting very right.
The game on the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNc242mbiUs
I just want a decent RTS game that remains faithful to the setting.
>>147350471
Really solid troops, and they have enough that they can handle all that shit. The sicilian invasion is inevitable(historically accurate as well). And as long as you know that's coming you can pretty much just concentrate on the muslims. Defending sieges in M2 is incredibly easy anyway. Eventually Hungary will attack as well probably.
Whether or not Venice attacks seems to be dependent on Milan and other factors but is similar to sicily.
If you want easy mode give the Moors a try. They're strong and fun. Their units fall off later on though.
>>147350709
It would always be DLC, they want to keep it out of the base game for ratings. It should probably be a free DLC though yeah.
>>147350804
don't worry, mods will fix it.
>>147350964
>Really solid troops, and they have enough that they can handle all that shit
Yeah, I love their roster, and I'm not really having trouble handling anything. I used a single stack to defeat 5 full stack jihad armies without replenishing once, but it's just so tedious and boring, I don't know what to do.
>>147350964
If it's made free dlc they may have to change the base rating for the game
Makes sense legally
>>147351128
Yeah. I can understand that. The late era start is pretty hardcore and fun, but you are literally fighting one or more battle of constantinople every single turn forever.
>>147351241
Yeah I concluded that as well, but there do exist age gates to certain store pages, even if their basegame isn't age gated. Which SHOULD do. Infact I think they do anyway.
>>147350701
>>147350804
DoW 3 looks like fucking League of Legends with the way the animations work. It makes me sad.
>>147351486
>>147351417
It would be fine if there was an end in sight. Like "Jihad will be called off in 10 turns if they cant take the city", but alas.
I think I'm gonna try a France game, got a hard-on for heavy cavalry and theirs seems to be the best.
What do I need to look out for with France?
>>147351486
ASSFAGGOTS killed the RTS genre.
>>147351652
>get a waaaagh turn 5
>pitiful capital garrisons can't handle two stacks this early
>already an unstoppable green tide before I build a second army
Dwarf waifus when?
>>147351832
if anything killed RTS it's blizzard for ignoring 15 years of improvement in the genre then releasing Starcraft HD
>>147351932
>>147349661
40K has never come close to having a game as good as TotalWarhammer, and they won't until Creative Assembly gets around to it. All the RTS's for that series so far have been sub par and down right awful at times. To add more damning words to it, they just haven't been very good in much of anything.
Fans are starved for quality Warhammer content and I'm happy how this game turned out. I'm not lying or gloating when I tell you I have only bought two games this year for full price and this is the better of the two.
>>147351768
>What do I need to look out for with France?
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France is harder than they appear, they usually have to fight on multiple fronts. Also, while you cavalry is indeed 'the best' it isn't the best by too large a margin unfortunately. It is also super late game.
I usually play the other side of the channel which plays a lot more obviously, but I suppose as France you probably want to fuck up England first. Or fuck with the Spanish factions in hope that it gives the Moors the edge over them(moors always start out the best in the first engagement but SS spain usually ends up winning). Then you can crusade against the Moors with no papal brakes.
If you want super heavy shit and don't mind playing from a later start date I'd recommend the Teutonic Order, they have very nice models and a more interesting(in my opinion) campaign.
Poland early is pretty nice too. They have great cavalry as well, and I think some mounted archers. Not the strongest but still very good.
What's especially nice is that I assume some Polaboo modded a lot of models, and SS attached them to Poland. They're one of the best looking factions in the mod.
>>147349834
Chaos and V.cunts are hated by most of the factions. Go spread your STDs else where m8.
>>147350804
If they can do it like company of heroes 2 it will be fine
What exactly is a Droner and why do they have so many lords?
Is it just me or are chariots pretty terrible?
Maybe I'm just bad at this game.
>>147352267
Damn that sounds pretty tough actually.
Maybe I'll do an England game first and then go into a Teutons game.
What do I have to be careful about against France with England, how do I mince their knights before they mince mine? Archers?
>>147352518
They fuck up lines/formations and can chase skirmishers that are behind the enemy line. The catch is that they need a lot of micro so they are not really viable in mp at least.
>>147352518
Maybe you're using them wrong. Chariots have a high charge bonus but low atk or armor pen. That means you are only supposed to use them to charge at unarmored & unshield units, then back away and repeat.
A charge bonus is a temporary increase to atk damage for a few seconds. I'm of the mind that any unit with a speed above 40 can be used as a charging/flanking unit.
>>147347562
>Calvo le Saracen
>le Saracen
>Saracen
hwat?
>>147352518
They can be good, but they're just too micro intensive.
>>147352331
You mean Company of p2w Commanders? No thank you.
>>147350804
Whats wrong with the video clip?
>>147353076
This and to add to it, other units that charge can take a few hits and have side benefits like more defense, damage and armor pen.
>>147352518
Charge them behind the melee blob
>>147353275
Yeah other than the DLC bullshit the game had a really nice gameplay basis.
Though the commander system severely limited the gameplay variety.
>waagh disbands
>had high fightiness in both waagh and parent armies
wish there was some sort of warning it was going to time out, I was hoping it would finish its siege
So. How do you attack a siege as bretonnia?
>friend goes "man the agent spamming in warhammer is annoying, it never used to be this way"
>literally what
>he forgot about monks incite spamming
>he forgot about ninjas killing off 4 new daimyos in one turn
>he forgot about metsukes literally buying their way forward through the lands
>>147352062
>Dwarf waifus when?
I want to know this aswell.
>>147353778
Did you have less than 17 units in your parent armies? Or maybe it just intercepted some tunneling army.
>>147353886
I remember buying whole armies with my metsukes and suiciding them on their own cities. I won a full campaign without recruiting anybody
>>147352770
Again, early on not many factions have particularly defining units. As England you have good infantry as well as archers, so you can typically hold against their charges. Battles will always be fairly simple in early western europe medieval battles.
The issue is the campaign.
You'll want to secure the British Islands first. You may piss off the pope when you beat up scotland. You can deal with that a few ways.
Other than that, make sure you fortify Normandy. France WILL attack you for it. No matter how good allies you are.
Also Norway will try and attack you every now and then on and off, if you keep a couple of cogs floating up in the north sea you see them coming.
There is an image posted around here regarding an English playthrough of Medieval 2. It's pretty accurate but I don't have it on hand.
>>147354110
nah, a full stack
it was sieging some dorfs who had no army, the only thing in the area was a single dorf lord with no escort
>>147353007
>>147353797
Get a agent that can sabotage walls.
>>147352120
>enjoy blasting through sieges with overwhelming orc numbers
>always tempted to autoresolve to minimize losses when I see the balance of power with all that yellow
>>147355146
Is this supposed to happen? It seems like most fights I get in the auto resolve leaves me without a single loss versus me playing and losing a couple units. Am I just bad or is autoresolve broken?
>>147355329
Neverpost Overshit in my thread again.
>>147354813
>portuguese sailors using katana
Get a mod for broadswords
>>147354415
How can I take the fight to France? The pope will breathe down my neck if I siege their shit, right?
>>147355452
by ignoring the pope.
>>147354813
How am i supposed to win sieges in warhammer? Siege towers get destroyed within 5 sec by arrow towers, and catapult units even if the farthest possible from the walls still get targeted by arrow towers
>>147355370
edge
>>147355537
>>147355329
>Overwatch
>In the eternal general
Do you want to attract the waifufags or something
>>147355329
Don't you ever talk to me or my general again you fucking faggot
>>147355597
Get more siege towers and get ready to take serious losses. You gotta invest a lot of time and men into sieges. Just like real life I guess.
>>147355452
There's a number of conditions to papal favour, you ideally want the pope to like you more than the lad you're fighting of course. But the pope primarily acts against the utter destruction of factions.
Which generally translates to him telling the bigger(more provinces) faction to stop attacking the smaller faction.
You can just wait out the mission he issues against attacking the target usually. And when you are unrestricted you'll want to include siege in your army to blitz down a province in a single turn, before the pope can warn you.
Alternatively you can just tell the pope to go fuck himself, though christian europe don't much care for that.
>>147355597
Each of your infantry units can spawn magical ladders, so you can flood the wall fairly quickly without siege towers. Of course you'll take more losses on the walls then, but it's a measured risk. And the towers are AI controlled(I think, I forget if a player can command them; but that'd only apply for you or an opponent in multiplayer anyway), so you can screen your siege equipment with trash units quite easily.
Overall the towers are pretty crazy and you hemorrhage far too many units.
>>147355146
>>147355329
Abusing autoresolve has always been the best way to win on the campaign map. You can always do better than the AI in even battles, but if autoresolve says you'll crush them, autoresolve gives you hardly any casualties. It's especially noticable in sieges.
If you, with a full stack attack a city with a hypothetical garrison of four trash units manning four towers on the battle map, you'll lose like 150 men to the towers and 50 before you cut down the enemy trash. If you autoresolve you lose less men than a single tower can kill in like thirty seconds.
>>147355329
>baitimage.jpg
people fell for it
>>147355887
>implying im not already here.
>>147356390
i want to worship vampire chans feet!
>>147356390
FAT VAMP TATS
>>147356390
More waifus when? Also CA better give them proper models this time, I'm 90% sure that bretonian damsel is a peasant in drag
>>147356390
Siggity swooty soon I'll be after that booty
>>147356285
Very helpful, thank you.
>>147356583
Accurate depiction of Bretonnian noble women to be quite honest with you.
Pic related has a qt decaying corpse with a pretty mask.
Wood Elves have a few qts in their units and a unit of qt elites. And one of their better ideas for a lord is a pair of twin qts.
High elf levy units have a few qts in them. They also have a few qt named characters but they're all worse than the men.
Dark elves have the big milf and some lewd qt units.
WAAAAAAAGH
>>147356390
>Inferior undead
Shit taste.
Do those orcs who attack Grunburg early game ever try to take on Altdorf?
I've seen them build up to a 20 stack, but they always ignore it.
>>147357506
How bad does she smell?
>>147357604
They wouldn't really stand a chance if they tried.
>>147357625
LIKE UR MUM LOLZ XDDD
>>147357506
Inferior lord.Still pretty good though.
>>147357625
Probably stinks of antiseptic
>>147357604
>>147357680
This. They seem to understand what the garrison and wall combo would do to them.
>>147357625
Isnt she all bones by this point? Propably smells dusty.
>>147357212
Tfw still no elf qts to lead into battle
>>147357604
No, because the starting Altdorf garrison will fend off almost any early game stack in a siege.
I've actually tested this in custom games (hiding my lord off in a corner of the map), giving the orcs 20 units (which they rarely build up to) and even given the orcs some advantages like some Big 'Uns, which they won't have. Not to mention they won't have 6 towers and a battering ram in the campaign, unless you let them siege for more than 5 turns.
It's a very easy fight to win. Just keep your reiksguard in the centre to clear up enemies who rout into town (the stupidest mechanic).
>>147356285
You can command towers.
>>147357929
>>147357837
>>147357625
>implying she hasn't been perfumed and anointed with scented oils every day since her untimely death by her adoring, and now undead, subjects.
>buy TW Warhammer
>only play empire and bretonnia
Am I the only only one?
>>147358485I'd bone her.
>>147358421
Cheers. I thought you might.
I've almost played two full campaigns and never actually fought a city defense yet. The AI avoids fighting them with all its might. And I've only played attacker in MP.
>>147358627
No. You are the minority though.
>>147358627
>Playing the factions without monstrous units
Giants and Arachnaroks are as fun as cannons and cavalry, mate.
>>147358745
He does have the steam tank and sort of Pegasus.
>>147357837
>orcs clever enough to avoid fights with impossible odds
I didn't know orcs this brutally kunning existed.
>>147358745
>Giants and Arachnaroks are as fun as cannons and cavalry, mate.
I'd rather shoot them with cannons
How would you implement skaven? The way I see it as far as skaven are concerned is that they could go for a rather interesting route and add a second layer to the campaign map, so its a button that you push and it transitions you to that layer. They could potentially replace the underway travel mode so that it simply transitions to this layer and there's some sort of ghost image or indicator as to where your forces can emerge. It would certainty add a lot more tactical depth for the greenskins, dwarfs, and skaven. I would also make the skaven a "horde" faction. They do in fact have cities but you never control them, and completely unique to them you don't actually build any structures. Yes there are skaven cities but you don't actually control them and you have no money ever. No trading, no taxes, to upkeep. In order to recruit new units you have to complete missions and tasks for the council of 13. When you do this you get allocated certain troops based on what clans and council members you helped. Then sort of like in medieval 2 where you could recruit 3 units and then had to wait a few turns, its sort of like that but you can only recruit what they give you and its completely free and instant, essentially raising like with the VC but with no cost associated. And to stop you from being able to do whatever the fuck you want wherever the fuck you are with no consequences you suffer massive attrition and desertion you venture away from objectives like with crusading armies in medieval 2. They would also have a mechanic like with the greenskin fightiness only instead of attrition if it reaches zero you must fight off a certain portion of your army that turns against you sensing you as weak. Only the most elite units (stormvermin, rat ogres because they're too stupid to know any better) won't betray you. Cont. in next post
>>147359109
>what are paragraphs
>>147359109
PARAGRAPHS NIGGA
I AIN'T READING THAT SHIT, REFORMAT AND TRY AGAIN
>>147359109
>How would you implement skaven?
With some space between them you fuck.
>Play Empire
>rush to unite Reikland
>two armies of shitter orcs just run around me and bee-line Grunburg
This is so fucking stupid.
>This attrition
The 12 turns of siege were worth it.
>>147359509
Welcome to literally every Empire campaign.
>>147359109
Doesn't need to be so complicated. Greenskin integrity would be a reasonable feature yeah.
Rather than a separate layer to the campaign map, which would be fairly unnecessary, they just need to expand on the underway a bit more, maybe cut out part of the terrain displayed when you select a unit moving in the underway stance.
They also should have agents that spread plague.
They do need to have to be able to build buildings though, the big clans are massive builders. Probably replace money with warpstone or whatever it's called now, maintenance and building would be done by skavenslaves, but they're so perpetually numerous, trading for them with warpstone is the best idea. It's another reason buildings and development is important, a lot of clans became powerful by going literally nowhere and finding a ton of warpstone.
>>147359109
>>147359541
I really wish attrition set in earlier and killed them a bit slower in exchange. Having to comit an army for 10 turns before you see any kind of change in the garrison is super obnoxious, especially since you have AI agents all over you the entire time.
Whats a good mod that reduces the tower range in sieges of the lower tier towers?
>>147359798
Amen
>>147359410
that doesn't seem lore friendly
>>147359509
Take it slow. The Empire is almost unique in that they can advance as slowly as they like. If you're having problems, then take Grunburg and sit on it. Develop Altdorf and Grunburg to the point where you can support two full armies. It'll only take 15 or so turns. Then unite Reikland in about two turns with your doomstacks.
Alternatively, do my strat. Build up a second army at the same time as Karl's, and have them sit on Grunburg while Karl unites Reikland.
>>147359661
What are you supposed to do about it?
>>147359798
Would be too easy. You wait out a siege when you are in a comfortable position
>>147360042
>>147359931
Though his second strat is definitely better, I've had cases where Marienburg or the brettonians from the south rushed the other two towns and then I couldn't take them without getting into a really bad war.
>>147359929
>female dwarf
>no fine stubble
>hair not braided under the chin so it resembles beard
>>147355329
Get your ugly face away from mine.
>>147360425
tollkien a shit
>>147359109
You can also keep a certain number of regular units by intimidating the packmasters, whether this requires another mechanic or its simply assigned like you would say the immortalz flag I don't know. These units would always be loyal and in battle would have a passive inspire to nearby troops.
They also have a special inspire ability where all units become temporarily immune to fear, terror, and moral loss but it requires sacrificing a portion of the unit and is drawn from the winds of magic and the power of the ability is determined by the level of the unit. So sacrificing slaves does absolutely nothing but waste magic, where as sacrificing stormvermin makes it last a decent amount of time, and sacrificing a hero makes it last a long time. This ability can only be cast by lords and legendary lords.
Your "allies" will be given the same objective as you so expect to haul ass if you don't want them stealing your glory. And if your "favor" reaches 0 like the gudge mechanic your going to be ded because the entire of skavendome will declare war on your ass and you don't get diplomacy.
>>147359681
What if you controlled a single city throughout the whole game and unlocked new technology through "stealing" from other factions. They are like quest battles and the higher it is the harder they are to get. And because skaven are dicks you don't actually get to bring your army. You only get to bring what you're given. So fluff wise if you lose you can think of it as those treacherous fools replaced your stormvermin with common clanrats. Buildings and units are unlocked by completing missions for the council of 13. So instead of quest battles giving you gear they give you new units and buildings.
You don't actually get new equipment for your legendary lords, only building and unit unlocks. So your characters don't get more powerful, only the number of armies and soldiers. Forcing you to rely on overwhelming numbers since all but your LL will got shit on in battle
Reminder that all Ikko Ikki should be killed
>>147359798
>>147360131
Yeah what anon said. I committed the 10 turns because I couldn't attack them because in their walls they were way too strong, but we were also too strong their two armies couldn't stand against us in a non-siege battle. If attrition set in earlier they'd be killed in half the time and it'd be way too easy to win siege battles.
>>147356285
>do the siege manually for fun
>get stuck on the walls under 6 quarrelers and 4 grudgethrowers
>>147360425
>>147361636
Remove this
>>147359798
This. Personally I like DeI's system for Rome 2 where both Attacker and Defender suffer attrition in sieges. Attrition should start right from the first turn and should be about 5% per turn. This would require attackers to bring up reinforcements if they intend to wait it out and would actually make the 'Attrition Reduction' skill in the Warrior Priest's tree somewhat useful.
>>147361636
i'd let her slay my cock if you know what im saying
>>147361636
qtI ALMOST want a lore unfriendly daughters of x dlc for TWW
>>147360405
So should I do the first or second? Do cases like those happen when you go fast or slow?
>>147361894
>This would require attackers to bring up reinforcements
They removed that in the newer games. Every unit needs to be babysat by a general, which was the worst design decision in total war history.
These games are shit, pathing is shit, models just bunch up and make fighting shit.
So who's the best faction in the beginning of the end times mod, kislev's bear cav looked pretty cool in the vid I saw.
>>147362084
Well you can still do it, it just means bringing up a second army and swapping out the units.
>>147362063
The second is generally better.
The Empire Secessionists have a habit of having everyone declare war on them, many of whom will grab their land.
Note that this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If Bastonne or Marienburg take a town, and your army is in range to counter-attack before they rebuild the garrison to full strength, then you can declare war and crush their main force, allowing you to quickly seize some other territories while they recover.
>>147362220
I mean there's like a billion factions so declaring any one of them the best is pretty hard.
Kislev is actually strong as fuck, but mostly because they have assblastingly OP missile cav that shreds armored units and the AI is too braindead to properly deal with.
>T5 Orc army will rout against a T1 empire army
>>147362210
Which one(s) have you been playing?
>>147362021
Kinda silly considering there will be armies to scratch that itch, and that the game doesn't cover a broad enough of a picture for broader demographics and social situations that having random females fit.
It would fit worse than the daughters of mars dlc.
Just bought Attila, which culture packs are worth it?
>>147362021
Well many races have female troops and units in general, it wouldnt be so lore breaking. Not sure about the dorfs though
>>147360405
Alright, so how many men should I have in the army to defend Grunburg? Should I put an army in Altdorf as well?
>>147362429
Ger...imperial steel.
>>147362425
Cool, how are the bears, strong but slow heavy cav?
>>147362536
uninstall culture
>>147362536
Empires of Sand.
Maybe Slavs if you're into that sorta thing.
Skip everyone else.
Assuming they are releasing DLC and FLC simultaneously and monthly, what do you think next months content will be?
>>147362557
from what I read the only factions with female units are the elven factions and a few casters for brettonia.
>>147362618
Basically.
>>147362536
Sand.
Germanics, Celts, Slavs if you got the money.
Also the Charlemagne dlc is pretty good.
>>147362572
It depends, but I generally have them twelve strong. With the garrison, that's typically enough to fend off most things the orcs can throw at you.
There can be trouble if they camp and build up themselves to a 20 stack though.
>>147362536
Slavs, langobards and sands.
>>147362536
Sands and not much else.
>>147362572
Altdorf has captial level garrison and walls, it don't need an army.
>>147362685
That would be a false assumption.
Outdated leak says Beastmen next. And they do make the most sense.
Then probably Brets as free shit.
Then Wood elves capping off a side campaign with the aforementioned two other factions.
>>147362804
There's a few named female characters outside of the Elves and the Elf-cucks.
