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>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y
>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/
>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W
don't forget
>dat op-pic
lol i bet you kissed a girls what a fag lmao
>>146584665
delete this
let tf2g die
kiss a me
Fifth for B4nny
if croatia wins i WILL raffle
>>146585165
reported
>>146584857
Don't be dense. There's always at least 3 major updates a year. Summer Update, Halloween Update, and Christmas Update, with several small patches scattered throughout the year. See: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Patches#Major_updates
>>146585165
not reported
>>146585207
but i was relating to medic gameplay
couldn't you get reported for saying that you reported
>>146585165
lewd
i LOVE killing
>>146585475
This was me during the recent stress test for matchmaking. It was awful. I was the last on my team to join and there was no medic, so I went medic. No one moved as a group, everyone thought they were the roamer, and for some reason we had an engineer on a 5CP map. He kept building minis a point behind where we were. We didn't win a single match because the other team actually worked as a team(and were stacking) and we were just randos. This ought to be illegal.
Will we ever get a great update like Summer 2013 again?
>>146586261
>Will we ever get a update again?
ftfy
>>146586261
I miss 2013 summer. With the shades and flip flops and shit. I haven't actually given a shit about a seasonal sale in a while honestly.
Thats not just because tf2 stuff but just in general
absolutely disgusting
>>146586828
Summer Shades was 2011.
hello yes where is anime
>>146586454
But there's a MAJOR and NEATO update coming soon with PRINNIES!!
>>146586828
>With the shades and flip flops and shit
That's 2011, isn't it?
>>146581549
Since every CoD is built off of a heavily modified idtech3 (just like how goldsrc and source were built off of the quake engine), movement mechanics like circle jumping and Q3 style strafing are still functional. You can actually keep the speed from strafe jumping, but only in AW (thanks to the unlimited jump stamina) and its way more consistant than bhopping in source just by using spacebar.
This one corridorr that took 10 seconds to run through in the AW singleplayer I was able to strafe jump through in about 5.75 seconds.
>>146586261
Yes of course, the h u e g game changing MM update is gonna be out soon!one!! (note: valve time soon!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HxGVzgNWxE
STEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
STEEEVE
>>146584787
Kunai is good-ish, doesn't deserve to even be in the same multiverse as the classic or the YER
>>146587051
>>146587124
shit, 2011? damn
>tfw passing the time until the "huge update" by catching up on videos
>tfw you've watched all the videos that could plausibly interest you
>tfw so bored that I've actually finished some projects around the house and been working out longer
AAA AAA
>>146588173
>>tfw you've watched all the videos that could plausibly interest you
what videos
id?
That's good anon. You should focus on being productive instead of just sitting around whining because there hasn't been an update yet. Try clearing out some of your backlog, or taking up another hobby altogether. TF2 isn't, and shouldn't, be everything there is in the world to you.
>>146587923
The kunai makes spy even more vulnerable to good players, while making him much more annoying to predict with the DR. Overall it's not worth using compared to stock, any splash damage or off shots that clip you are nearly a death sentence.
post stomps
I can't pubstomp :c
>engie on koth
What would be a good place to sell an item for real money like, say, agold frying pan?
>>146588736
Sell it for keys, sell keys for Paypal.
>>146588736
ill help you
id?
you can trust me because i have a lot of rep on trading websitesthis isnt a scam or anything
>>146588339
As someone who's quite good at escaping shit situations with the stock watch, i'd say 210 hp + 20% cloak resistance work miracles.
But the better the enemy becomes the more then can focus fire you down, but 6s classes are not that good at chasing you down once you cloaked.
What TF2 class is most similar to Overwatch's D.Va? (In terms of playstyle, not uselessness)
>>146589040
pyro
>>146589040
you could totally discuss it with your overwatch pals!
here is a link to their thread: >>>/vg/owg
>>146589130
>Not uselessness
>random pub was upset that I didn't follow him 24/7 when he fucked off on his own
>kept complaining at me when he got hit by crits even though he was overhealed
baka lads
>>146589402
don't ever listen to what pubbies say about what you should do unless you can tell they're actually good
tell them to git good before telling you what to do, you know you're above this shit
Any NA pugs going on?
>An update to Team Fortress 2 has been released. The update will be applied automatically when you restart Team Fortress 2. The major changes include:
>>>>>>Internal system changes in preparation for a future update.
>Fixed erroneously being warned that leaving a bootcamp match will result in an abandon penalty.
>Fixed servers running tf_mm_strict 2 mis-handling bootcamp matches.
>Fixed servers running arena mode constantly entering and exiting the pre-round state while empty.
>Fixed servers failing to recover properly from crashing while running a bootcamp match.
S O O N
>>146590052
As expectant as I'd be, son, I fear it's just the Mayann Update. With much luck, the release of competitive, but hell if we're ever gonna get optimization
>>146589402
>play a pub on gullywash
>I usually use my mic to try and explain to new players why they should, or shouldn't, do certain things
>explain calmly that 4 engineers is generally bad, because it hurts our ability to push
>I also look around, seeing some people at our first spawn (we were at our second) like an engineer built inside of river
>I just mention that these things are a bad idea, trying to never raise my voice or sound like I'm complaining
>people genuinely start to get angry with me
>calling me names, and mentioning that I'm mad when they're audibly frustrated
Now, I know it's a pub, and that you're most likely not going to get good teammates, but isn't the point of pubbing to learn the basics? Some people on our server didn't know the basics (like sticking near the med to make a more effective push)
>we lose a round, but then we instantly turn it around and win twice in a row
>someone who was complaining about me calls a scramble, and it passes
>instant vote to kick me
>fails
>another guy votes to kick me
>fails
>same guy tries to kick me a second time
>fails
>"Hey can we just kick the guy who keeps calling these? I know these kinds of people, they won't stop until I'm gone."
>vote passes 6 to 2
>kek all the way to the bank
>>146590289
Competitive isn't going to be coming out for a while. Someone talked to Eric Smith (I think that's his name?) in a comp game, and while he was very vague his message was essentially "It won't be ready for a while."
FINAL STRESS TEST ANNOUNCED
PREPARE FOR INCOMINGdisappointment
>stress test 11
>END OF THE BETA
last stress test boiz
>Last stress test
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>146590658
holy shit is true
post yfw9v9 without the class limit
>last stress test
did they ever change the fact that people can just leave at the end of the game so nobody gains or loses anything from playing for 20+ minutes in some cases? if this is still a thing after the beta is over I won't even bother
>>146591237
>9 medics
>>146591237
>9v9 without anyone leaving mid game
>>146590658
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
>>146591237
>>146590535
I like the fact that there's been several posts on r/TF2 about being nice to new players and whatnot and then this shit happens.
You can't offer any advice to anybody anymore without someone getting upset as hell over it. I've tried giving suggestions to people about how they should switch from four spies to something better and have gotten an earful of "wow stop being so mad dude its a pub dude lol". Even at that, people are still gonna do whatever they like for their own sake, aside from those few times people actually start thinking that they could be making better decisions.
It's also mainly why I have chat and voice off, never use either, and just drop all my expectations when pubbing because most people are borderline dumbasses and unironic memers.
>>146590535
>Some kid who is clearly around 12 or younger bragging about how scout is the best class
>Says people who play scout are the best
>Won't shut up about how great the scout class is
>Someone tells him to shut up
>Kid tells him that clearly he's playing an inferior class that isn't scout
>Guy who told him to shut up is also scout
>Cue 5 minutes of arguing back and forth of whether or not the kid meant that scout was shit
>Someone calls a votekick
>Literally everyone votes yes
Sometimes this game can be alright.
>>146592241
I always try to explain to new players that they should play a class like Soldier or Heavy, because their mechanics are very easy and even someone who isn't that great at aiming can be a big help.
Instead people flock to pyro and just hold M1, or sniper/spy/engineer and stand still.
I first played TF2 when I was like 14 (in 2007) and I still did a pretty alright job as all classes. Hell, my first day I figured out that engineer could rotate his buildings with right click.
>>146591237
yfw 8 demos and 1 engie for a dispenser
>my team
>3 soldiers
>decked out soldier can barely play
>other guy blows himself up trying to get to mid
>spy
>enemy team
>demo's at mid already spamming stickies
>med always with uber
>godlike scouts
why does this keep happening and happening
>>146592661
Because TF2 matchmaking doesn't match randos with other randos. Oh no. You will always be up against a stack if your team is randos. Just play 5CP pubs.
>>146592534
This kid has 5k+ hours and is looking for a UGC iron team. I don't think I've ever seen anything so sad except that one soldier who couldn't do shit without his pocket med even with 12k hours in the game. I guess some people are just not meant to git gud.I'm starting to wonder if I'm one of those people, desu.
>>146590657
>>146590658
>>146590671
>>146590739
>>146590806
The stress test will also continue until the end of the beta, when the Neato update goes live.
>>146592661
In comp? Because there's no ELO system (or at least there wasn't when I played). I'm rank 4 and I kept getting matched with rank 1 people who didn't know how the fuck to group up. Our medic actually switched to fucking spy MID-MATCH, without saying anything. It doesn't help when the other team is Tagg and his friends.
>>146592895
>5k hours
>iron
I've got like 3.8k and my friend says I play at a div 1 level. I don't do much comp, though, never really found a way in.
>>146593116
What if the end of the stress test comes with not only Mayann Update, but withSource 2?
>>146593282
>tf2 source 2 before csgo source 2
are you insane?
>>146593282
Source 2 was confirmed for not happening for TF2's near future.
It will probably get a port eventually (since it's still earning Valve bank, which is also the primary reason why we got things like Gunmettle) but not in the near future.
i like my tf2gfu
>>146593373
>>146593396
I know. I just wanna dream for a bit, damnit.
It's also true that you couldn't launch your game into competitive with pro players having to use cfgs because of your graphics engine cracking because of all the shit they add, though
http://tf2r.com/kzh4na3.html
>>146593517
The major problems with the engine are the particle system being unoptimized, and things like the glow outlines (that's a major FPS killer for me, drops me by like 30).
I've also never seen TF2 use more than 30% of my CPU at any time, even when the FPS is suffering. I have a feeling it's just a problem with the way TF2 uses your hardware (my video card is also never being utilized, like maybe 40% utilization in the most intense combat).
I wouldn't exactly say it's an "easy fix," but I feel it wouldn't take much. I know I used an FPS config, but only used a section of it that affected how TF2 handled CPU, and my FPS went up to above 60 when before it was at like 40:
mat_queue_mode 2
cl_threaded_bone_setup 0
cl_threaded_client_leaf_system 0
r_queued_decals 0
r_queued_ropes 1
r_queued_post_processing 0
r_threaded_client_shadow_manager 1
r_threaded_particles 1
r_threaded_renderables 1
>>146585121
fug
here's a trash raffle instead
http://tf2r.com/kuo8ccx.html
>>146594363
I read somewhere that it's because TF2 has a poor distribution of tasks between cores of the processor.
Basically, the sound is the only thing it distributes right. Everything else goes full spaghetti.
>>146594657
Well, keep in mind when TF2 was made, 4:3 monitors and 2-core CPUs were the most common setup. While the engine has been updated over time, it hasn't been given enough attention by Valve's engineers (who I'm sure are working on it, I know Jill has been talking to some competitive players about FPS "problem areas")
>mfw having a blast backstabbing with spy
wew
poist
http://tf2r.com/kacycfk.html
>>146594967
Thanks for that info, anon.
Maybe in 2 years we'll see some optimization. Until then, back to hoping to get a job to upgrade the PC (I'm on a 4:3 monitor, 2 core CPU, and 2GB RAM toaster, currently)
>>146584665
nice
Is this what we're doing now? http://tf2r.com/kbawvp9.html
>6v6
>either a complete roll for the enemy team or your team
i thought people played competitive for fun
>>146591875
I think it's one of the most toxic things about TF2 these days. Unless you have a completely callous attitude about playing, you're outed and ridiculed. It's sad. Not even 5 years ago, people tried in pubs, they just didn't give a shit if they lost because at least they TRIED. Now it's if you're losing, and someone is trying to change that, he gets called "salty" and is made fun of.
>>146595470
They're probably going to drop incremental upgrades to the engine, but the only way they can make serious improvements to framerate are to really get their hands dirty and possibly re-write major sections of code on how the game handles certain things. I'm no engineer, but I'm pretty sure you can't make minor changes to an engine and get a 30% increase to performance.
TF2 also has a serious problem with LODs and how they're used. See this wiki page: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Model_optimization
>>146595752My friend made that hat.
>>146595428
New rocket launcher idea:
+40,000% damage
+800% clip size
+1500 health
-no random crits
>>146596489
go away
>>146595428
I should get myself one of those cool new camo pants.
>>146596489
I thought keys were locked for a week after purchase
>>146595428
a chance to post my new loadout
>>146590806
WHO IS THIS CHARACTER
HAHAHA HOW FUNNY WHAT A WACKY CHARACTER DESIGN HAHAH
>>146597147
what the fuck am i looking at
>>146597079
true. theres like two people on server tho
>>146597278
A man who has won too many "draw my loadout" raffles.
>>146589040
Scout, except replace evasion with bulk.
>>146596860
swap out those gaiter guards and you got a nice loadout right here
>>146597432
actually all of these draws were because i have very nice and talented friends that wanted to draw my medic
i want 9v9 comp so i can play comp for fun
>>146584918
>>146598904
nothing in the world can make me have any more than zero respect for you after you threw a hissy fit in our mumble and said you'd never ring for us again after fucking silver 6s scrim lol, not that I care whether or not you ring for us, but I do care when some fruitcake loser tries to curse us out while mumbling and stuttering over half the things he's trying to say, because it's fucking hilarious
i saw someone posting a pic of a reddit post that said something about how changing something that should decrease fps actually increases them
i wanted to do the thing but i forgot
does anyone have the pic
No one cares about your drama. If you've got something to say to Saturn, say it to his face, instead of dragging it out into the thread for everyone to see when no one here gives a fuck.
>>146599183
Gasol?
Your memory is twisted, I've never cursed at anyone in mumble in my life. From what I remember I said I didn't want to ring for a UGC team again.
Is Gorge a good map?
I've got something to say
I love Fruity Pebbles in a major way
>>146599516
IIRC those scrims were so messy I even got you guys a mentor.
Fruity Pebbles are nice, but Applejacks are the king.
>>146599521
Do you like it?
>>146599521
if you can KILL on it, its good
>>146599183
man up fucko and say it to him not in the thread
also saturn how do i make my tf2 look like yours
what config is this
>>146599812
no phong + cinematic lightwarp
>>146599183
Give me a link, I would like to have a chuckle.
>>146600467
I wish this was official.
>>146600513
>Valve
>ever confirming a gender for the Pyro
>when in reality, Pyro is just a bunch of ducks in a man costume
>>146600513
>>146600513
I like the current femme pyro but this one just looks better
>>146584665
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SPELLS GABE-MAN
YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE SPELLS WITH SCREAM FORTRESS GABE-MAN
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SPELLS GABE-MAN
>>146601162
You are 8 months too late to be throwing this hissy fit.
>>146599521
The first point is good and fun, but the second point is just annoying for BLU. Someone should make a pro version of it.
>>146601215
i just got back from space
>>146594157
>>146594463
>>146595440
>>146595576
why do you go all out on raffles then go dry for days
>>146601945
no clue
hello
I wish Corvalho's female pyro would get updated
>>146602653
regretgood luck
>>146602653
Sniper hat
>>146602653
scout misc
http://tf2r.com/k48mvz7.html
ah yes the best hat in the game
>>146600467
would you fuck a fem pyro?
if so would you keep the mask on?
>>146603529
fuck ya dude
also fuck ya dude
Seeing all the greentext stories made me remember something great
>casually playing tf2 with my div 5 team, not even on the same team, just having fun against eachother and with random pubbies
>french faggot joins
>totally shit
>we collectively kill him a bunch of times and he keeps getting mad at almost every single one of us
>friends on his team are telling me over mumble how mad he is over voice chat
>start adding insult to injury and start taunting
>says my kill wasnt even that great
>stop taunting
>random crit kill him
>sincerely say sorry since i think crits are the most anticlimactic way to win a fight
>he assists me
>says "sorry" for payback or something
>this goes on
>he legititmately, unironically says he is the god of tf2 being the best player in the entire game and could play in any league, any division
>had 10k playhours
>we in mumble were asking ourselves how one can be so shit at a game when they have this much experience
>guy joins the server
>knows the french faggot, not in the pleasant way
>add him
>he tells me who this guy is, even shows me his facebook page
>looks like a sad fuck, actually feel sorry for him
>visit the faggots steamprofile later
>screenshot of him killing me on his steamprofile
>definitely feel sorry for him
>>146588736i got scammed
>>146604181
how?
>>146604181
why
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/234042
>>146600589
if anything i'd want THIS to be canon
rate my medic
>>146604578
comp stress test was very fun. first time playing 6's
though all it takes is one bind spamming sticky jumper demo, or 1 abandon to ruin the whole thing
bring on ranks. also best of 3 is far too quick
>>146595428
poot
>>146604871
random shit thrown together desu senpai
>>146604369
>>146604472
>brother gets the idea that he wants to sell his pan to get a ps4 and wii u, asks me to run everything for him
>reading up on some pointers on how to go about trading on >>>>>>reddit because i've never had experience on trading something either using real money or something on this caliber
>every guide suggests to use a middleman
>seller pops up almost instantly
>check his shit on steamrep, 4 flags but i didn't check what they were for
>alright well if i find a middleman i won't run into the issue, i'm sure he just fucked up and got reported for some small shit
>seller and i find a middleman, his shit checks out on steamrep and it seems legit
>everything goes smoothly, middleman is even helpful and warns me about shit like making sure the invoice is correct
>give the middleman the pan
>they both drop from the group chat and unfriend me
>check the guy's steamrep again
>each flag was for using a fake middleman
>hit up steam support and ask them about it
>apparently they revoked their trade reversal policy less than a full month ago
>it wasn't even the fact that i lost it that hurts, but the fact that it was my brothers and he put his faith in me to properly make the transaction
>>146604871
no antialiasing/10
>>146605154
>check his shit on steamrep, 4 flags but i didn't check what they were for
Okay, I almost believed this was a true story but you were too heavy handed with the stupidity.
>>146605154
>not trusting the reports
im sorry for you and your brother but is a bit your fault
>>146605154
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/6/64/Scout_beingshotinvincible33.wav?t=20100625234455
>>146584787
What's wrong with the Cloak and dagger?
I reached hales own on my rocket launcher today.
too celebrate my rank i reset my stats in tf2.
how is your day anon?
>>146605154
>tfw fuck ups like this are natural when youre new
I'd even say new people need to be scammed in order to git gud at trading
I wouldn't say that though when they are new AND ARE SELLING GOLDEN PANS
Sorry to hear that fampai, that must suck
>>146585307
What was it?
>>146605465
Took mom out to breakfast, now I'm just chilling
>>146605154
sounds like your brother didnt deserve the golden pan if he was quick to rush into this
everyone with expensive items is getting scammed lately.
>>146605415
Stock is objectively better. Most of the time when you use C&D it's standing around in a corner waiting for your cloak to refill.
>>146605119
b-but the old man theme
>>146605670
swap medical mystery for the grandma's sweater thing
>>146605465
I got the achievement sandman today.
>>146605670
It looks bad.
>>146605670
dont listen to them i like it
>>146605652
Still wouldn't it make it easier to watch the enemy and wait for when it's the perfect time to strike or give intel as apposed to possibly revealing yourself by taking ammo boxes to stay invisible without being able to stay in a single spot for too long?
>>146605465
first time since a long time since i played tf2 and enjoyed itthat doesnt mean i dont appreciate new major updates
if someone have a stereoscopic shades to trade add id/cactusmania/ i pay the bp price
>>146605932
That's only useful in a very very low number of cases when teams are actually communicating with each other, and even then, that spy is basically wasting a spot being useless.
>>146602683
it has very subtle butt jiggle, nice nice
>>146606034
Yeah, spy really needs something better honestly. Like even pyro's better than him sadly. He's probably unfixable too considering how his playstyle is.
>>146606061
degenerates like you belong on a cross
>>146606225
what did I do
>>146606272
you like something he doesnt like, duh
>>146605264
>>146605358
I got greedy and was a bit too excited that I got an offer so fast. At this point, I'm just getting the accounts banned from all the groups they're in so they don't come across as legit. If the guy I dealt with only has one account, he's gonna be one angry fucker if he gets reported to hell and back and banned from every group he's in.
I realize there's probably not much I can do, but I'll do what I can.
>>146606371
I just like female pyro mods, pyro is cute and female is cute
>>146603945
link
>when you repeatedly kill somebody who is quicker and more aware than you by sheer chance
this game's been out how long and it never gets old
there isnt enough fempyro porn
>>146606514
So, how are you planning on telling your bro that you fucked up?
>>146606776
I feel like this is almost every single kill I've gotten as scout.
>>146606925
I already told him. He doesn't give two shits about the pan, but I'm still pissed about it because it was my fault.
>>146607042
>he doesn't give two shits about $5000
>>146606879
yeah its all trash shit sfm
I wish there was more variety in mods tho
>>146607042
look at the bright sidehe didn't pay it
i give two shits about $26
>wake up
>NEW UPDATE
>It's fucking nothing
>>146606635
i dont even have it anymore, this was ages ago. all i know is that his name was g.unit or something
>>146607552
its 2 am why are you waking up now
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28286924
24 keys if you are cool
who the fuck makes up a retarded pan story if you can just write
am i cute :x
to get attention
Am I cute?
>>146608208
Because you're not cute, anon.
>>146607802
my sleep schedule is royally fucked
>mfw have to empty my custom folder to play mm
>the goddamn thing wont let me get more than 80 stable fps
>it also unbinded my movement keys since i had a null movement script
fucking valve jews let us play at 300 fps like we're used to
>horrible performance
>no class limits
>dozens of OP shit allowed
>"A player has left. It is now safe to leave"
MM is the most cancerous thing since tf2center
i never thought i would say this, but valve should LEARN from tf2center
>>146609771
>he wasn't playing during the good ol' days of tf2lobby
Now that was a shitshow.
lol
>>146610795
i actually played in the days of tf2lobby and learned comp there
im surprised people allowed me to play medic at all back then
>>146611986
r8 my fat sandvichmunching communist
So I play TF2, and don't come to this general. I thought I'd ask some TF2 players a question. Please forgive me if this is already some sort of running in-joke, or commonly considered bait amongst you, but I legitimately am curious to hear answers from other, probably more serious TF2 players.
Is the Soldier an overcentralizing element in TF2? Like, he's got the second-highest health in the game, next to the Heavy, he's got incredible damage, and he's arguably more mobile than the Scout-- granted, he needs to damage himself, but getting to the point faster than the class whose niche is supposed to be going fast is kind of weird.
You could argue 'he has a high skill ceiling!', but he's pretty clearly still very strong even with people who don't know how to use him, since the rockets just do so much damage, and deal splash damage. Is a game where most of the classes aren't played at all an interesting and marketable e-sport? Isn't that what Valve is clearly trying to push for with comp?
tl;dr Do you think the Soldier needs a nerf?
>>146614834
>cosmetics not in order
>trumpwig and calling him a communist
>using panic attack and calling him sandvichmunching
>>146614852
I don't think he needs a nerf. You know how Mario is always the all-around character in all spin offs and even in smash brothers? That's the Soldier in TF2. And it's what essentially makes him so good. He has high damage (But can still be outdamaged by the demoman), can go really fast (but while in combat you can only shoot enemies OR rocket jump so the scout is still faster in a gunfight and thus has the ability to dodge more)
Soldier is just the deepest class. He's easy to get into but hard to master. If any class (and that's a big "if") was overpowered it'd be the sniper. In theory the sniper can one hit 5/9 classes without charging his shot and 9/9 classes by doing so. But the perfect human does not exist, nor does proper hit detection in this game.
>>146614852
the goal of the game isnt for all classes to be equally balanced and viable
some classes being stronger than others is ok
>>146614852
soldier doesn't need a nerf
people used to think it was the stronger class because of coL Reptile and shit like that but in the end good scouts and good demos are very strong aswell
>>146614852
>medic
>demo
>soldier
>scout
every other class doesn't really matter that much desu
>i am reddit
>sound off if you're reddit
>who is not reddit
what did they mean by that?
>>146615912
agreed
in fact the original classes in QTF where
>battle medic
>demoman
>soldier
>scout
>sniper
but with the small maps in quake i wonder if the sniper was any good anywhere outside of 2fort balconies
hey guys top level player here answering all of YOUR questions about 6v6 tf2 gaming
i know the strats i have the info and i will share them with YOU
>>146616631
why is snakewater the best map
>>146616631
why is badlands the best map
>>146614852
A good scout's gonna shit on most soldier players.
>>146616756
its cozy and you can see everything from everywhere
>>146616859
fat airshots and a good mix of close quarters and long sightlines
>>146616631
Why is process the worst map?
>>146616882
A good soldier's gibba sgut ib nist scout players
>>146615056
youre so fucking autistic if you care about cosmetic order
>>146616945
it promotes very passive play because the openness of the chokes and easy paint-by-numbers mobility it allows soldiers is actually a detriment to proper team play sometimes
>>146616945
because it has a terrible mid and its white so people with crosshairs suffer
>>146617287
>not being autistic
....WYD???
>>146617590
WYD?
i dont know what that means, educate me mr autismo
why is viaduct so good for scout, process so good for sniper and granary so good for soldier?
>>146617884
i thought process was the to-go rollout map for soldier and demo
>>146617884
good terrain and a map that basically forces you to get healed on highground (scout own zone)
extra huge sightlines and open chokes, no real flanks because everything is really centralized so you can focus on where the enemy is coming from
a lot of enclosed spaces, or areas with very binary highground. a lot of easy to deny doorways and opportunities to gay people around corners. mostly flat ground instead of lumpy terrain thats harder to place precision rockets on
i enjoy answering this kind of stuff but i would like some variety too boys, keep the questions coming!
>>146618078
thats literally all you can do on that map as soldier or demo, jump and thats it its so open and bright its a shit map
>>146618284
what if scout had the grenade launcher
>>146618606
that would be pretty fun
Working ranks when?
I can only handle wrangling retards to victory for so long
>>146618606
wouldnt he hit himself with pipes if he fired while moving forward
can demo hit direct pipes on himself theorically ?
>>146618996
No, they don't connect with the demo that shot them. You could shoot one in the air and stickyjump up to it and you would just pass through it.
What are weapon changes you guys want to see for the next big update?
>>146618928
on the official MM release
maybe tomorrow, maybe next week
>>146619173
CritaCola nerf
Thinking about it I don't really care about anything else.
>>146619216maybe never
>>146619173
Quick-Fix nerfed into still viable but not a direct upgrade
Medic needle weapons slightly buffed to make using them over crossbow make sense at least a bit
vita-saw removed from the game, seriously that shit don't make no sense, i wouldnt want newbies to accidentally use it
>>146619173
i want the backscatter to have a clip of 6
i don't care what other changes take place so long as clip size is 6
>>146619423
Vita-saw is actually pretty OP, there's a reason it's banned in comp.
>>146619550
Eh? It literally rewards dying
Last time i checked it gave 10% of uber you had on respawn
Droppers dream
Did they change it?
>>146620110
No, it gives up to 20% depending on how much you had before you died
>>146614852
Soldier's designed as an all around class.
Unlike Sniper where one Sniper counters another, he's one of those cases where he doesn't directly counter anything, but nothing really counters him.
His unlocks can either benefit him or his team (aoe effects from banners) depending on how he plays, and his health means that he's able to take a good couple shots so he can do a job as simple as getting to the cart just to put a body on it, or by sacrificing health for speed via rocket jumping to save a point, or even trying to destroy a sentry that's giving the team trouble. It's his expendability in the end that really matters.
Even at that, getting headshot is still a big deal for a Soldier, Demo can just finish him in two pipes, and a Scout can easily kill a Soldier if he wastes his shots.
>>146620239
thats still not really OP
it means you have to be a really shitty medic to take advantage of that, dropping ubers or dying very close to having uber
its just a very shitty concept in general
>oh you dropped all your team and forgot to pop
>here is your reward
>>146620450
>you have 80%
>enemy combo pops on you and kills you
>you have 20% when you respawn
>you now have uber advantage even though you died
It's a stupid mechanic.
>>146620450
It's OP because it puts the enemy at a disadvantage if they aren't using it.
Same as Darwin's Danger Shield.
Post Scouts
>>146621009
>>146621009
Also, this look with a Coupe D'isaster instead of the TC, how about it?
>>146621308
Oh how I miss when the optimization didn't tank worse when Gunmettle hit. I miss my DX9.
>>146621397
is feathers really a girl or is it a
>she
>>146621009
take me down to the epic win city where the potts are hard and the memes are breddy :DD
>his strange hat doesn't match with the rest of his strange cosmetics
L M A O
>>146621667
She's really cute is what she is.
I think my strange hat looks fine.
>>146622123
(oh wont you please take me home)
i miss the axting
*sleeps*
Wake up!
>>146623289
(wake up)
I cant wake up
wake me up inside
is the quickiebomb good? or should I just stick with regular sticky for being a faggot
>>146624087
Quickie is fun.
give me a quickie
>>146624087
be a faggot all you want
pre-nerf sticky det time is fun
i wish the nerf never happened
