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Old: >>>>146045062

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
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>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
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QUICK, CLAIM WEAPONFU
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>>146170010
Cane best starter weapon
Can best weapon
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>>146170010
See >>146169965
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I can't fuckin' do it, guys. I cannot beat the Orphan.
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What's the difference between FRC chalice and just a C chalice in regards to the gem I get from the layer 3 boss? Or anything else for that matter. What does F and R do?
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>>146170467
Set a pass, so we can bully the parentless child!
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>>146170467
This guy did it at max NG+ at level 4:
https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o

Just watch that to learn how to deal with the orphan.
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What's a good strategy for the Loran Darkbeast? He carts me every single time. I feel like I can't do anything.
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>>146171616
Loran Darkbeast is handled in a very methodical fashion. If you have a fire and/or serrated weapon, that's what you want to use. Focus your attacks on one of his hind legs. Once it breaks, move on to the other one while he still has his lightning down. You want to hit the back legs first since they take more hits to break than his fronts do. Once you've broken all four of his legs, he should only have about a quarter of his health left, less even, depending on your damage output. When he's on the ground from the fourth and final legbreak, go for the head. It'll stagger him, open him up for a visceral, and either take out the rest of his health if you have high skill, or simply do good damage and put him in enough hitstun to finish him off.

It's frustrating at first, but when you finally get the patterns down it's honestly kind of cathartic.

Oh, and fight him with your camera unlocked. His lockon points are wack, and with his constant scrambling about the arena, it'll only make things harder for you.
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>>146172275
Thanks. He's my target after I savescum the fuck out of Pthumerian Elder, and I've always had trouble with him. Even with Paarl I always come back after I'm overleveled as fuck because I can't fight that archetype well.
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I always thought nourishing was the best gem type for the wheel, but I just saw a video with someone that had exclusively 9.8% tempering gems that have a secondary +72 arcane damage. Are these the best for the wheel on an ARC build?
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Jesus Rom in the depth 3 dungeon is demolishing me. What are the old tips for him? Been ages since I played and wanted to finally beat chalice dungeons
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>>146173515
Just blow him to bits with a cannon, if you can wield it
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>>146173909
I'll try that next time, ended up just using mah pizza cutter. Should probably upgrade the canon at some point as well
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Is there a generally accepted level cap for maximum multiplayer activity? 120 is my usual guess, but that seems a bit high for this game.
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>>146170878
I appreciate the offer, but I've soloed every other boss in Soulsborne and I would feel like a massive failure now to fail at the last hurdle. I guess I'll need to finally git gud.
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>>146174019
I go 110. It allows me to play with 98 memers and 120 memers. 110 master race. 117 is the max level that you can play with people that go 98 though.
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>>146173515
>clear all the baby spiders first
>get prepped first (let stamina full refill, pop BBP and paper, etc)
>attack the fuck out of her, even as she is fading out
^the idea here is to make her skip her second spot (which is the middle of the room, which leaves you at a big disadvantage) and got straight to he last spot on the far end of the room
>use the pillars as cover and wipe out all the baby spiders near you, then move up the right side of the room, using pillars for cover
>wipe out any nearby spiders (bait them to the pillars)
>when you get to the last pillar and take out any baby spiders, wait for an opening in Rom's spam, then do a sprinting attack to her face
^CD Rom's face doesn't have the same massive damage reduction as story Rom's.

>>146174019
For BB, the perfect level is 98. It lets you invade people going through the nightmare of Mensis and lets you co-op naturally be summoned by as low as lebel 60s, among other benefits.
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>>146174385
Speaking of which do I have to go to 117 if I want to be viable with arcane? I fucked up my build so I could barely use the moonlight greatsword but even without fucking my build 50 STR 70 arcane doesn't seem possible with 98.
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>When you're invading and the phantom has a max health pool of ~600

I don't get it. Why do people run such low vit? Especially with the health penalty phantoms get. He died in two hits from a fucking Stake Driver. I'd have killed him in one on my arc build!
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I'm on my first playthrough ever right now and using Ludwig's sword. Just got the Whirlygig Saw. I've read about how awesome it is, so I went straight to upgrading it to +9. My Ludwig's sword is +9 as well. My Ludwig's still outdamages the whirlygig with 32 strength and 25 skill. Is the pizza cutter a meme weapon or is it actually good? Will it outdamage Ludwig's at some point if I keep on leveling my strength?
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>>146174786
I meant 50 vit not strength.
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>>146175209
Because they aren't built for PvP

>>146175224
LHB is a Quality weapon (scales from Str and Skl). The Pizza Cutter is a Str weapon.

For the Whirly, you want a build that looks closer to this. With High Str the Whirly becomes the best PvE weapon in the game.
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>>146174786
I use 110 for all of my builds, so I don't know if I'm the right person to ask, but I love my ARC build. It's literally my favorite build I've made. Why the fuck are you going 50STR 70ARC though? 25STR 50ARC for builds that use the HMS, Wheel and Tonitrus, For flat damage weapons, just get the base stats and 50 or higher ARC, or if you want to use the Kos Parasite and the starting weapons (Saw Cleaver, Cane, Axe) then stay base STR/SKL and pump that ARC.
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>>146175491
>>146175224
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Tfw savescumming Pthumerian Elder and get a Blood Rock but a shitty gem so you have to softreset anyway.
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>>146175491
Thanks for the quick answer. Since there isn't a way to respec (?) I probably wasted too many points on skill already so I'll just keep on using the Ludwig's sword. I like its moveset a tad better anyway, and it looks better with my executioner set.

Is the pizza cutter's one handed mode decent or is the weapon strictly for two-handing?
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What's the best place to grind in the game? I'm going through the very first room of Iszh Gravestone level three, and am getting ~100,000 blood echoes per run, but I'm wondering if there's a more efficient spot somewhere. I'm trying to get all of my stats to 40 for the sake of being able to try everything to see what I want to do for my next build, but I'm at level 137 right now and it is quickly becoming a slog again.
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>>146175502
I meant vit right now I can end with 50/12 /18/12/ 5/51 but It was supposed to be kos parasite and then I wanted to use the Whirligig. I still want to use the kos parasite and arcane tools though. If I get to 117 I can get arcane to 70.
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>>146176024
No respecs. LHB is also amazing though. The Pizza Cutter is good in one handed mode too.
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>>146176168
Cheers bro.

I'm still using my hunter's pistol I picked right at the start, there isn't any need to replace it with something else? I have 7 bloodtinge. Also, are guns worth upgrading?
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>>146176167
There's really not much of a reason to go to 70 ARC aside from maximizing Hunter Tool efficiency. I run 50 ARC and my Hunter Tools still do significant enough damage to use them consistently. If you want to use the HMS, Wheel, or Tonitrus then I recommend going to 25 STR. If not, then go to 20 STR for your Whirligig then dump your remaining points (117 or 110 or whatever you prefer) into END or ARC. I think you may find 12 END is low for weapons like the HMS and Whirligig so I recommend trying them out at that END before you put more stats into something.
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>>146176167
You can try everything out at level 117.

>>146176343
Personally, I get 8 tinge so I can use the repeating pistol. It is worth upgrading. Even at 8 tinge it does a ton of damage if you use a BMA.

Unless you are on a BLT build though, the other guns aren't worth upgrading, imo. For the most part they are just parry tools, and you can't still parry with them even without upgrading them. That said, there is no reason not to upgrade them if you already have your main weapons upgraded and the spare materials are just taking up space in your inventory. You should upgrade them on a BLT build though, because they do a tone of damage.
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>>146176943
Thanks a ton for the advice, I might try out the repeating pistol. Now it's back to farming blood vials so I can finally beat Maria.
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>>146176770
Eh. I'll stick with the 98 build for now. If I need to pump to 70 I will. It sucks that the scaling requires so much arcane.
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>>146177308
Happy to help.

This is what an 8 BLT repeating pistol can do:
https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak?t=48s
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>>146176006
I usually keep the rocks and re run the dungeon.

Whats the "best" str weapon for pvp?
I might just pop heavy abyssals into a saif or church pick if nothing is any good
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>>146179135
when you str, EVERYTHING is a str weapon
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>>146179135
People seem to do well with the Whirly's dash R1.
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>>146174385
120s can be invaded by Bl 76-142 tho
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>>146179135
Untricked Wheel, Tonitrus, Beast Cutter, Kirkhammer, Amygdala Arm, Whirligig Saw, Boom Hammer, Hunter Axe, Saw Cleaver. The "best" is the one you like best.
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>>146179241
Just wondering if theres a best str weapon in peoples eyes like the skill rakuyo
>>146179504
Holy fuck i was so excited for the whirligig b4 the dlc hit but during gameplay while im wearing those psn wireless headsets and the weapon sounds are way too annoying.
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>>146179557
But 120 can't invade 98, friendo.
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>>146179807
Hunters Axe is always a safe bet
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We're at two hours of savescumming Pthumerian Elder. Still no good gem. Contemplating suicide.
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>>146179847
Good.

Those cucks ruin all the fun.

>WHAA WHYD YOU SHOOT AT ME IN DARK SOULS WITH GUNS

>WHAA YOU PRESSED R1 TOO MUCH AND I DIDN'T TRY TO DODGE IT

>YOU BEAT ME BUT I'M SO GOOD THAT YOU BEATING ME MUST MEAN YOU'RE BAD
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>>146179847
Why would that matter? A 98 can still invade a 120.
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>>146180009
>savescumming

The RNG knows.

kill yourself
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>>146180147
If I'm the one invading, I want to be able to invade as wide a range of people as possible.
>>146180091
110 masterrace representing.
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>>146170119
What was that, the running R1 of the tricked Cane is just a shitty slash with no range
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>>146179661
>>146179929
Bah, quit throwing weapon suggestions like I'm new.
I was wondering if after all this time there was a new dash flat arc wheel attack or something. Been away for awhile.
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>>146180465
There's no obviously "best" STR weapon like the Rakuyo. Every weapon aside from the Shithammer is viable.
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>>146180465
Just HA up a Rakuyo or Saif.
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>>146180465
Whirly dash r1 spam is not bad but outclassed by the bloodletter dash r1 spam.

>>146180445
Press R2
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>>146180091
>get bitched at for using bma repeater, bunch of fgts in the fc use the cannon while i held myself back.
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>>146180271
GOT ONE OF THE COLD ABYSSALS I WANTED.
Now only 2 more to go
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>>146180594
>>146180681
>>146180708
Thanks fellas
Anyone else think the whirligig is irritating to use in terms of its sounds?
I feel like im wearing crazy pants!
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>>146180717
These people really need to learn how to play the game instead of just stripping elements out because they don't want to figure out how to deal with them.

protip: most "broken" stuff in Souls games is super easy to counter
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>>146180408
but everyone here is 98
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>>146180935
It doesn't bother me, but I definitely understand how it could bother you. I couldn't use lightning weapons in DS1 because of the sound.
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>>146180935
I love the sound. It's basically a screeching "PARRY NOW!"
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>>146181027
You do you, man. I'll stick with my glorious 110. It's such a pretty number.
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>>146181027
But everyone else doesn't give a fuck.
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>>146181193
Y'know what's an even prettier number? 111
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Why is the Kos Parasite such shit? I have a full set of pretty good ARC gems and my AR is barely breaking 300. Is this how it's supposed to be?
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>>146181268
No no no. You don't understand the glory of the 0. This is why people ignored the superior 120 meta in DS1 in favor of 125. They didn't understand how nice and clean 120 was. I'm almost getting a chubby just thinking about it
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>>146181332
I think the Milkweed moves have multipliers that make up for the apparently low AR, but I've never tried using it seriously enough to be sure.
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>>146181265
who cares about everyone else? we can still invade and wreck them.
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>>146181463
But if you like zeroes so much, why not stop at 100 instead? It has two of them!
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>>146181546
Then come invade and wreck me.
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>>146181578
Because one zero perfectly balances the clean style of the one and my favorite number, the two. It's almost like looking at the Sistine Chapel in number form.
Also I've got some terrible OCD, and it makes it easier to make my builds
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>>146180959
No rule fc?
No rule fc.
One rule
No bitching.
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>>146181812
>i have ocd

No you don't.
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>>146181046
>>146181089
Do either if you use the whirligig, sony wireless gold headset WITH the bloodborne specific audio settings?
Shit gets crazy ambient and whirligigs are louuuuud.
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>>146181332
>>146181485

This guy has me curious about making the unarmed moveset viable.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odk1MXc1lz8
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>>146182087
Nope. I've never used a headset with my console before.
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>>146182087
>fighting Gascoigne with wireless headset
>he does his jump attack and crushes a bunch of gravestones
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So when does pure Blt get fun? I'm currently at 30 Vit, 20 End, 30 Blt, everything else at base. Chikage does respectable damage in tricked form but nowhere near enough to make the HP drain worthwhile.
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>>146182087
>sony wireless gold headset WITH the bloodborne specific audio settings

This sounds so absurdly autistic I might need to sell my PS4.
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>>146181780
can't, busy playing atelier sophie
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>>146182603
The trick to doing that in PvE is using the transformation attacks. For some reason the transformation attack from untricked to tricked Chikage has a crazy multiplier. Additionally untricked to tricked R2 decreases the health lost by half.
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>>146182603
When you get the Bloodletter.
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>>146182603
I kept a blunderbuss with a +5hp for negating momenta of tricked chikage. You care less when you 2h
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>>146182603
when you use my build
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>>146182738
Do u need meds dude? I dont think u know wut ur saying.

Jokes aside, it seems to really bring out everything like yharnamites have lines i havent heard or amelias prayer being clear as fuck.
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Does anyone know of a glyph that has a mob Watcher that drops high level (over 23.9%) Fire/Bolt/Arc gems? I sick of spending so long on these Watcher bossfights only to get a Tempering gem.
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>>146181907
Looks like people want to bitch.
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>>146182845
Thanks for the tips

>>146182929
Not looking forward to trying to kill Ludwig with this build tbqh. Unless he's highly vulnerable to rapid poison.

>>146182969
Is +5 enough to fully negate it? I assumed it was % based like Power Within.
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>>146184281
I put one in just so it heals like 20 hp after a few tricked r1s but it'll take awhile to heal the tricked r2.
Also the hp drain on the r2 is shortens if you go from neutral>l1>r2.
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>>146182325
The damage seems a little low unless it's ungemed.
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>>146185887
He has gems in his description.
All flat arc.
Looks pretty effective.
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h-how do I beat Pthumerian Descendant in Ihyll
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>>146185974
Oh he just has 40 arcane. Too bad the stupid thing scales like hunter tools.
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>>146186091
Parries.
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>>146186091
HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH
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>>146186091
Same way you beat him the first time, he just does a bit more damage now. Parry a lot.
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>>146186246
I just beat him with Augur spam.

TIME TO LEARN PARRIES
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what the fuck...

You can hit Exit Game even while an invader is present?

From pls
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So why the fuck do weapons have absurdly different health regains? A bonesaw with R1 mash can recover everything if whatever they attack doesn't die but you'll be lucky to recover a tenth of what you lost with a wheel.
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Okay, may need help with Descendant. Anyone wanna assist my sorry ass if I don't get it in the next few tries?
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>>146186747
give a pass and I'll SRRC
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>>146186529
Each weapon just has a different multiplier. It really should be listed on the stat screen.

AFAIK the Burial Blade has the best in the game. Combined with the fact it has hyperarmour on R1 spam, you basically never need to use vials against weaker enemies.
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>>146186873
Pass is 'egghead', I'll be at the fog gate
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>>146186873
Gonna be here within five minutes or naw?
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>>146187626
Ringing.
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>>146187687
Jesus christ are you kidding me

One more try?
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>>146188169
Ok
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>>146186305
Not the guy you replied to but I've been playing with augur parries while farming watcher boss. How do you get a visceral when the recovery frames take so long? Gotta be up in da face? How is it for viscerals in pvp?
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>>146188204
t-thanks

>>146188252
Not much of an expert myself, as I never parry in PvP. In PvE, quickstep in
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>>146188252
Augur is better for backstabs than parries (since it fires instantly). You have to be at close range to get a visceral in, which makes parries riskier than just using a gun.
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Can I do a visceral attack when two handing a weapon? For example, on a boss who I stagger?
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>>146188252
Dash towards them in pvp and pve
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>>146188252
Circle
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>>146188204
Weee, thanks man.
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>>146188570
You can.
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>>146188616
Neat
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Best handgun for Bloodtinge? The pretty looking one seems to be a pea shooter at 8+ and decent gems
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>>146188670
No problem my man
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>>146189342
Evelyn
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>>146189342
Repeating Pistol, Evelyn, Church Cannon
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>>146189595
That's the aforementioned pretty looking one and it's sucking eggs.
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>>146188636
>>146188616
>>146188491
Backstabs too?! Damn im glad i got 18 arc on str.

I know dashing is is but it still seems to take too long, i might be too far away i guewas.
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>>146189795
whats you're BLT at?
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If anybody wants to help with Amelia I'll be ringing at fog.
Pass:Panzer
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>>146190081
Already rung
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>>146190201
Thanks
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>>146190373
Going through Hemwick?
Since you didn't approach the skull imediately...
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>>146190460
I went through there already, I'm just trying to help other people if I can get summoned.
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>>146190050
A solid 50 bb
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Someone want to help me out at Maria? The co-op's pretty dead there right now.
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>>146191492
On my way:)
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>>146191450
Gems?
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>>146191492
Level 70 btw.
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>>146191492
is it bbg? The password?
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>>146189342
It's never gonna do loads of damage with basic shots.

If you really want it to shine, use the Reiterpallasch in the right hand so you can parry without losing your BMA, then use the Evelyn + BMA instead of doing a visceral. Easy 1500-2000 damage.
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>>146191765
yeah set the password to bbg
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>>146191870
Ringin senpai
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>>146191992
>>146191992
Messed up a bit and died but still got the kill. Thanks senpai!
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Anon, did that count? Because I'm ringing
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I seriously cannot be bothered to get 27.2% gems in arcane, fire, and bolt. 95% of gem drops are tempering, and of the remaining 5%, 90% of those are shit. At this point I'm probably just going to farm a Bone Ash Hunter or Beast Possessed Soul enemy and take the decreased damage.
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>>146192439
Meanwhile I'm swimming in perfect elemental gems when I just want some 27.2 Temperings...
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>>146192578
No thanks
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>>146192371
It did count! Cheers!
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>>146191450
Equip Bone Marrow Ash to do get the Damage output (of the regular hand guns) that only the Evelyn can give.

the Canons will always do more damage thou but they use so many QSBs its only worth using them as last resorts.
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>>146192520
God I wish we could trade. That would make both of our lives so much easier.
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>>146192439
I said fuck it on my current bloodtinge guess I'll stay with Hamlet gems.
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>>146192578
Regular or headless
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>>146192626
Well, uh thanks for the reply Anon.

>>146192752
He had a head last time I check
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>>146192871
Layer 4, Lower Ptumeru?
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>>146192979
Yes and bbg as always.
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Is there a way to dupe blood echoes after the latest patch?
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>>146193046
I'm coming HOLD ON
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just beat bloodborne for the first time using a pure skill build, level 73. Stats are 35/20/16/36/6/10. I wanted to make a new character for blood tinge and arcane things, and I was wondering if anyone has any guides/suggestions? Can you do a blood tinge/arcane build or is the only viable blood tinge build blood tinge/skill? Weapon/magic item recommendations? Builds? I have this arcane guide image saved and it's what I was planning on going off of for arcane, no idea for blood tinge though.
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Anyone know if the Tonitrus tricked form adds a flat amount of Bolt damage or if it augments the Bolt damage you already have like the Wheel does?
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>>146193541
The buff has its own hidden scaling that is applied on top of the weapon's original bolt scaling, it's not the number you see in the menu.
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>>146193359
Pure BLT is fine. You can use the tricked Chikage, tricked Bloodletter, and tricked Bowblade to great effect. Be aware that in making a pure BLT build, early game will be rough.

I don't know about a BLT/ARC build, but I suspect it would be absolute ass.

Pure ARC is also good, although you have a couple options when it comes to ARC. Either you get the base stats for the weapon you want to use +50 ARC, 25 STR +50 ARC for Wheel, HMS, and Tonitrus as well as everything else, or stick with base stats and 70 ARC which lets you use much more powerful Hunter Tools as well as the Kos Parasite and base level weapons like the Saw Spear and Threaded Cane. My personal ARC build uses a variety of weapons and has the stats 50/18/25/12/5/50.
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Ty guys

The stealth entry work perfectly, tell your friends about it.
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>>146193950
He never saw pizza time coming
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>>146193881
So would using Cold gems or 27.2% Bolt gems be worth it, or should I just stick with Nourishing gems like I've been doing?
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>>146194093
Bolt is better than nourishing if you're on a 50 arc build.
You should aim to make your buff as strong as possible, the damage you get from the weapon itself isn't worth much.
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>>146194274
I'm running 25 STR and 50 ARC.
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>>146194450
Go bolt
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Why is kirkhammer so much better than every other str weapon?
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>>146195278
Because it's not
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>>146193945
By much more powerful hunter tools do you mean they'd deal more damage? Or are there tools that literally require 70 arc
And so if I went the 70 arc build I'd be using stuff like the saw spear mostly? Would I be doing any endurance or vit?
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>>146195278
Great range, speed, has a small AoE on most of its attacks, has the ability to block attacks, and has several really good baits (Charge R2 follow, transforming follow up, neutral transforming follow up, ext...)
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>>146195748
They'd do more damage. Hunter Tools scale differently than weapons, and even until 99 ARC they continue to scale well. The Parasite functions in a similar, though lesser, way.

If you went 70 ARC your weapons are going to be the Saw Spear, Threaded Cane, Hunter Axe, and of course the Kos Parasite.

As far as stat allocation goes, you could go 50/16/10/9/5/70 on a Cruel Fate character, which would put you at 110. If you wanted to go up to 117 (which is the max you can go while still being able to invade SL 98 characters), you could pump more into END if you so desire.
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>>146196064
>Great speed
This is bait.
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>>146196586
>I can't kirk properly therefore it is slow
:^)

Here is a hint: dont spam r1
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Man I gotta say after nearly 3.5k hours i'm still not tired of BB. I have like 5k in DeS but I noticed I have no where near that in the DaS games.
>1.5 for DaS1
>1k for DaS2
>900 for DaS3
Why does the Dark souls series seem so plain in comparison to DeS/BB?
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Have to do Loran all over because I erased it and forgot to pick up the little dead babies for the cursed Chalice.


That's enough Bloodborne for the day no thanks
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>>146186246
You do realize I am not the only one that considers him the hardest, right?
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>>146196963
Damn. I put 1.6k into DaS1, 1400 of which was invasions and duels, and ~700 into DeS because I think it has the second best PvE in the whole series, and I only recently bought BB but I have over 250 hours into it so far and love it. I do think that DeS and BB are the best the Souls series has to offer though.
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>>146196586
It's not, the kirkhammer has great speed for a weapon of it's weight class, but you probably think anything that isn't BoM r1 spam is slow.
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>>146197298
I regularly use the Wheel, albeit tricked, and I don't feel like it's that slow. Every time I've tried to use the Kirkhammer on my STR build I've always felt it's too clunky, not to mention ugly because of that giant hammerhead on your back, so I always stop using it.
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>>146197232
Like 3k of my BB hours are PvP like everything else in the souls series I play the games mainly for PvP after a certain point.
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>>146197474
Have you tried using the tricked for so it's not on your back.

Also I never really saw a significant speed difference between the wheel and the Kirk, they're both about the same in that regard through the wheel lacks some of the range and the AoE effect (which it makes up for with the potentially scary damage if built right)
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There's a fuck-off huge guy with a hammer in Ihyll. Should I be worried?
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>>146198584
Is he naked? If yes, you need to be extremely worried.
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>>146198917
He was naked.

That wasn't so bad, Augur's knockdown is just broken.
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>>146197903
Yea it's the tricked Kirkhammer I'm talking about. The untricked Kirkhammer is just a slower untricked LHB. I just don't understand how people can use the tricked Kirkhammer without feeling like they're moving through molasses.
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To my understanding, the Gatling Gun has shite scaling. Is there any particular skill spread I need to make use of it, or can my 30 STR guy use it just fine, so long as it's upgraded?
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>>146197232
I have almost 3k hours in DaS1. All but like 100 hours or so was dedicated to PvP. PvP is what brings people back because it is the only things that going to be different every time.
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fuuuuuck

Is Headless Bloodletting Beast hard at all? I just got fucking demolished.
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>>146200117
No, Just fight without locking on, and stay just outside his leg.
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>>146200117
He's cake once you realize he's deathly terrified of you attacking his legs.
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>>146199795
I'd say, great ones.
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>>146200495
>>146201041

His slam attacks are fucking bullshit.

Had him down to 5%, when the "shockwave" from one of those fucking decks me.

Anyone wanna assist? Pass is 'hellish'
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>>146199795
The cosmos of course
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>>146201837
The slams don't really have shockwaves; his entire arms just have hurt boxes, even his elbows. Basically, you have to delay your roll until he starts the down swing. Otherwise, he will track you, and you will get hit.
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>>146202086
Eugh, that's just nasty. Will try to keep that in mind...

Had two blood vials still; if I'd just disengaged and healed, I'd have had him. Motherfucker.
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>>146193359
>>146193945
Follow up to this. Does anybody have any pros/cons to pure blood tinge vs skill/tinge, and level orders/what I should be rushing?
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>>146202086
Nawp, cannot dodge those fucking slams.
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>>146202341
Greed is an insidious killer
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>>146202585
Look at the video in: >>146200495

Stay just outside the right leg without locking. Watch the left leg for a clue on when to roll. When his foot reaches it's apex, that's about when you want to roll.
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>>146202573
>pure blood tinge
Unzip your Hanzo steel (folded one MILLION times) for massive damage
BMA Evelyn

>skill/tinge
Can actually use more than two weapons
Won't do maximum damage with anything

Just do pure Blt or pure Skl.
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>>146203113
I respect that you're good at killing this bugger, but I just tried to do the same thing and died before I could even hit the guy.
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>>146203475
Brah, he mauled my ass repeatedly. I am only good at beating him because I kept practicing. You can do it too. I believe in you.
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>>146203673
blaaaggghhh

Just need to replicate what I did the second time.
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>>146203673
Fuck, thanks Luci. Only used six blood vials that time and wiped the floor with him.
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>>146204350
Happy to help, and Congrats.
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>>146204784
Aaaaaaand now I need fucking Red Jelly and Bastards of Loran to make an FRC Chalice.
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>>146204861
You should be able to buy them for insight by now.
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>>146204945
Red Jelly, yes. Bastards of Loran, no. Should I just re-make Ailing Loran and run through it to get those?
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>>146205058
You can by Bastards in NG+ iirc.
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save me jesus
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>>146205134
Only once I've made an FRC dungeon, but yeah.

Ah, well, I'll just redo Ailing Loran.
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>>146199795
Nightmares.
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>>146205138
Worst enemies in the game.
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How do y'all take screenshots in game and post them?
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Do the effects of the runes stack at all?
Like if I equip all three moon runes my echo output will be ridiculously high?
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>If you R1 mash with a bone saw you can stagger the fuck out of kos
Well that was anticlimactic but I got the fucking parasite.
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>>146196963
In the 15 months since Bloodborne came out, you've spend ALMOST FIVE ENTIRE MONTHS playing it? That's 8 hours of Bloodborne a day, EVERY FUCKING DAY since it released. Where the fuck do you people find this kind of free time?
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>>146205972
the guy who wrote the paleblood hunt said he had played 3000 hours
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>>146196963
>>146205972

>12 hours of DS3 a day since it came out
>10 if he got the JP version half a month earlier
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>>146205793
Christ I think I just got my answer for this, one sweep through Mensis and I'm up 750000 echoes.
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>>146196963
Please post a screenshot, I don't even have that much in New Vegas and TF2 put together.
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>>146205972
>Not living the neet life.

Not him but I can understand kinda.
Living in a hotel for the past month, three months left.
Super shady area, can only jog on machine inside.
Literally asides four hours of work a day, a lot of jogging, I play FROM games.
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Whats a fun build for a new playthrough?
I used the Ludwig Holy Blade on my first playthrough b/c of dem aesthetics.
Now I'm suffering from lack of damage and un tricked sword syndrome.
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>>146206590
why do you live in a hotel, isn't that expensive?
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>>146206590
I can do it in short bursts (hell I've done nothing but play BB the past 3 or 4 weeks), but to do it for over a year?
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>>146206590
You'd think the dude would at least take a break to jerk off or something.
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>>146206737
Work pays for it.
>450 a night
>Still shit internet.

>>146206743
>>146206874
I'm just saying I understand is all. It is alot for real though.
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>>146206590
I hate being NEET more than anything,
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>>146206995
What do you do?
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>>146207045
Amen
Even if you're financially secure, its not enough.
Not even BB can fill the void of life.

>>146207231
For work or my daily sorta neet life?
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>>146205138
God can't hear you down here
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>>146207508
work
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>>146205578
They look too cool to be the worst.
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Well, I can farm Ritual Blood (5) from Ailing Loran. Where should I get Tomb Mold (5)?
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>>146207686
isz layer 3
refer to the guide
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>>146207686
>farming ritual materials

By the time I ever needed to actively seek out materials that weren't just lying around the previous dungeon, I had already finished all the standard chalices and the materials were available in the shop. (and once NG+ hits the insight shop sells the special mats)
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>>146207623
I am a gm/dm of casual dining restaurants in the southern states.

New location opened so I am here to help it get going.
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>>146208187
Wow. Did you work your way up?
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Is pvp still at level 120?
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can mob watchers drop 27.2s?

This fuck just keeps giving me 25.3 crap, but I can't stand farming the bosses.
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>>146208407
they drop one tier lower than bosses, so the best you'll get is 26.3 and the lowest would be in the 24% area
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>>146208483
Fuck everything.
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>>146208483
Other anon, and these a F/R/C watcher mobs?
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>>146205972
I literally only play Fromsoft games I do go work from like 10 till 4 and then I have a long distance relationship so that also keeps my sleeping pattern a bit messy
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>>146208253
I did. Building your resumè is the key.

I started at age 18 at a pizza restaurant and was able to get great kitchen manager experience from an experienced man.

Worked for two years for the experience, moved on to a bigger franchise. Worked two more years to pad my resumè, moved on to a bigger franchise.

And here we are.
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>>146206468
I'd have to go scouring through my accounts
>US Ver of BB
>EU Ver of BB
>JP Ver of BBToH
Same with all the regions for DeS
And then the hours split cross plat for the DaS series. It would take me a while to compile it all considering I lost my old set of DeS characters due to sony being cunts and locking my original PSN account.
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>>146208160
Not sure what you did differently, but I'm missing Ritual Blood and Tomb Mold to make my first FRC dungeon.

This is hell.
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>>146208918
>It would take me a while to compile it all
You clearly have that sort of time on your hands, so get to it.
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>>146209083
Mate i'm bust spelunking I gotta get those blunt gems for my kirk so I can complain about the speed in the next FC
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>>146208746
>and then I have a long distance relationship
Enjoy getting cucked
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>>146209150
>TFW we met up two months ago she came here and she moves over in like 4 weeks.
Mate when you got a qt/10 JP Canadian life is good
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>>146208370
It is 98 for us, and 120 everywhere else. That's not really an issue though since 98s can still invade 120s too.
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So was it the Kos parasites or the pregnancy that killed kos?

Remember she washed up dead, and there's no suggestions in-game that the hunters encountered her before she washed up dead.
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>>146209319
>Canadian life
How's Trudeau working out for you guys?
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>>146209319
>he actually believes this
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