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Previously on /tosg/ : >>145726254

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute (Hiraku)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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I want a cute swordswoman girlfriend.
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so when ppl say "lf1m dps for X" is it fine if i join as a DPS swordsman?
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>str getting buffed
>dex builds are all kill
STAT POTION FOR TP WHEN IMC?
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>>145760097
good one
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Peltastas are pure and cute!
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Why would anyone use the keyboard control scheme?
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>>145760097
>dps swordsman
nice joke
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>>145760097
they mean archer or offensive wizard
if they want a swordsman they ask for a tank
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>>145760161
To interact with objects
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>>145760161
Because mouse contol sucks for skills that require charging and gamepad doesn't have enough buttons for skill bar.
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Theoretically, if you sell a white boater on the market for 100m, would the bots buy the shit out of it in a heartbeat for them to sell for irl money?
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>>145760134
>str getting buffed
time for a bunch of reroll parties
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Meanwhile in Cawfee
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>>145760256
This is why they need stat potions in the shop but IMC is too retarded for that.
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>>145758218
Thanks Mafuyu.

I was thinking about either Krivis or Diev, does both work? I'm kinda scared about Krivis because I saw some posts about some upcoming nerfs to it, so I'm not sure. Diev seems to have a good synergy with Carnivory, but I'm not sure about the usefulness of statues.
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>>145760246
Bots don't have 100m on a single char as thats an easy way to get flagged so no it would never sell.
100m btw is around $600 on legit sites so gl finding whales willing to spend $600 on the hat
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>>145760170
>tank
it's Taunt they ask for, they know the truth.
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How/where do I grind for specific recipes? I need to expand my team storage.
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Nonimo and Beethoven, please come back.

How am I supposed to conduct a guild war when half of my aces are missing?
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>>145760340
>gl finding whales willing to spend $600 on the hat
i think you underestimate how much whales are willing to blow on stupid shit. i've had guild members drop thousands on cosmetic gachas in other games (and still not get what they wanted)
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>>145760134
Lucy, you have some 'splaining to do.
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>>145760340
so were talking about 20-25m range then?
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>>145760142
Pelt 3>Rodelero 2>???
I want an useful taunt bot build
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>>145760462
When you google it yourself you cocksucker.
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>>145760327
Cleric2Diev3Druid2 is cookie cutter.
You can probably make Cleric2Kriv2DievDruid2 or Cleric2Kriv1Diev2Druid2 if you want.
Someone with Kriv3 cleared ET but you need a dedicated party for this one.
Kriv1 gives you zaibas and daino.
Krivis2 for zaibas splash, divine might is kind of hard to pull off.
Kriv3 is for melstis (I heard it's going to be nerfed)
Diev1 gives you cd statue
Diev2 gives you owl.
Diev3 is for invulnerable statue (Most players ignore the invuln statue in my experience)
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>>145760508
Drop Pelt3 for Pelt1, and get Hop3. Finestra gives block, which makes you tankier than more Pelt. You can Taunt a nearly-limitless amount of monsters with just Pelt1.
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W-would a kind thaumaturge please make my boobies a bit bigger..?
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Threadly reminder.
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How do i stop myself from being addicted to my own alchemist potions? I'm drinking these babies like water
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>>145760712
>want to be ugly
fukin baka
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>>145760591
>>145760327
You could probably do Kriv1Diev2 to get 2 offensive skills if you want.
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>>145760506
Probably yeah but you can sell it for 100m or higher if you can find a whale since whales can just purchase silver from silver sellers.
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Previously on /tosg/ I asked some info about my build. Was going to fall asleep so I didn't think about it too much, I just realized my build was wrong. Later, I tried to remember who had given that bad piece of information to me. Pic related. Who should I force to buy me a Skill Reset now...? Damn you misinfo shitters.

Not to mention the cannoneer build has always been mislinked, even when recently the anon who's working on it linked to the updated wip pasta
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>Get to crab as elememe.
>Got 2 rotation of frost cloud/dark theurge and all of my other spells off.
>Crab is dead, my party didn't get a cube.
>Wondering what happened.
>Open inventory.
>Realise that I didn't equip my weapon.

I-I'm sorry, my party. I'm retarded.
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>>145760905
but is it 100% confirm to even exist? I have loads of time to kill this weekend
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>>145760491
The difference is that these whales need to rmt to get their hat and some whales have moral codes so an already small subsection of mmo players known as the whale is split even more by the requirement of "okay with rmt".
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>>145760658
>You can Taunt a nearly-limitless amount of monsters with just Pelt1
How so? Also, would this be effective on an
>all CON build
since I've always assumed hoplites pour all their stats into DEX
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>>145760591
>divine might is kind of hard to pull off.
You mean Divine Stigma. It's actually quite easy if you can gauge your party's kill speed. You can also stigma tree root crystals for a guaranteed buff every time.
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>>145760992
Confirmed multiple times by both the koreans and international.

Hell all you have to do is check previous threads and you can see tons of proof.

Btw a single weekend won't do it as you'll only kill 30k or so, you'll probably need to kill alot more than that since theres people (who you can check on the kill rankings) who have alot more kills yet no drop
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>>145761054
The Swashbuckling buff icon after using the skill breaks the 5 monster max-aggro limit. Using the skill only taunts 11 monsters, but if you run around the room next to monsters, they'll ALL aggro you, as if the limit didn't exist.

Pelt3 is a meme.
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>>145760921
The cookie cutter pastebin had wrong skill allocations and had wrong builds too. I had to remove it from the OP. I don't know if I should put up another pastebin for it.
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>>145761146
thanks mate

are gold/silver mobs guaranteed to give it? or do they only give more chances?
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>>145761189
>its this missinfo again
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>>145760340
>gl finding whales willing to spend $600

You'd be surprised anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfplXWiZOA
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>>145761321
No gold/silver mobs are worthless since they have set drop lists which DO NOT include white boater.
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Can I make a build to summon infinite shit that fights for me?
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>>145761189
Because that's not how it works. Take a wizard into the 130 dungeon and run around.
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>>145761463
oh, so no point to actually kill and hunt them?

thank you matey
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>>145761465
paladin's conversion
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>>145761487
There's an aggro cap for players, unless you individually hit more monsters. Swashbuckling breaks/raises that cap. Never had a situation where Lv5 Swash was not enough.
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>>145760230
Gamepad has plenty of buttons unless you go 7 different fucking circles.
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>>145761601
Than you've never been to ET
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>>145761319
I'm too lazy to reroll, and I wouldn't want to buy a reset pot with my real money (already broke as fuck). What the hell do I do? That's my build so far, currently level 76/13

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41177755.1a263a5361.11223545

I need a bit of help ;_;
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>>145760230
L2+R2 gives another 20 slots on controller giving a total of 40 slots.
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>>145761601
Post evidence to support this claim. Like I said, take a wizard into the 130 dungeon. Or run around a populated Demon Prison District 2, and post the evidence.
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Should I go 2:1 int:con or druid or just get enough con to survive and dump the rest in int? 3:1 maybe?
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>>145761727
It doesn't matter
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I always thought DokiDoki was a cute guild but they are actually in fact very lewd.
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>>145761727
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41177755.1a263a5361.112236455a6a75.112a31415565
Rest is up to you.
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>>145760921
Did you fail english? He's telling you you fucked up by not having DM at 5.
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>>145761928
Oh the irony, did you fail at english anon?
Hes saying that the tosg pastebin said to take 3/5 DM yet its bad and 5/5 is the standard.
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>>145761928
Did you fail life? I understood his answer, but I had put DM at 3 because I trusted the cookie cutter pasta build, retard. That's why I'm irritated.
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>>145761727
76? just reroll
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>>145761901
Thanks familia. May I ask you why you kept Zemyna low? I thought it was good as a supporting skill, sorry if it's a stupid question.
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>>145762079
Just buy a stat reset goy :^)
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>>145761665
I don't fall for memes.

>>145761780
Will do.
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What's up with the white mob spawn rate? I find at least 2 everyday.
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>>145762298
Why are you complaining?
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When's Cattly!
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>>145762352
I just find it weird.
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>>145762180
I don't want to spend 7,91 bucks, sigh

To think I had 99 tp and bought a token

>>145762101

It's still a lot of hours in the game, I completed all the quests up to the horrific Gytis Settlement Area and I don't want to go through that hell again any soon
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>>145762427
Its not unredeemable, its just slightly subpar.
Why worry about not having a perfect build?
Just live with it and move on, its not like you won't get into parties with it as people won't even notice, as long as you've got heal 10 you're assured a spot in grinding groups all the way to 280
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>>145762367
He died in the shooting in Orlando, sorry.
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>tfw 5m/h exp in Storage
>tfw they don't spam for some kind of AoE and party main source of dmg is a Kino3
I can so much as a tauntbot
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>>145761580
But that doesn't allow me to summon anything anon
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>>145760931
How cute.
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>>145762427
Yeah, nothing wrong with it, except that you will reroll after you play 10x of current type.

But seriously, level 76 is really really. I usually complete quest up to that point in 3 days of casual play, and that's already considered slow.
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>>145762610
find another party
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>>145761640
>>145761734
Keyboard has 40 shortcuts as well. All with a single button press. Gamepad requires you to press multiple buttons. Keyboard is just smoother to play with.
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>>145762707
Waiting to see torch event
If it doesn't spawn i leave for sure
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>>145762678
>you will reroll after you play 10x of current type.

Not sure I understand kek
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>>145762713
Except when it comes to movement, aiming and general relaxedness.

The controller is quite comfy
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>>145762071
>>145762079
Oh I never used a pastebin before cause I'm not a dumb faggot who can't think for himself and have to use cookie cutter shit from the pastebin.
It's your fault for believing the pastebin like a fucking moron.
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>>145762427
>level 76
Just reroll, you can get there in 2 days.
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>>145762610
Either you or the DDs are doing something wrong
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Is Rodelero3 ever worth it over Rodelero2?
I understand High Kick plus Slithering is a lot of strike damage, but giving up a circle of Fencer seems bad.

Also, the STR buff to swordies that kToS is finally getting seems really bad for Fencer builds. I guess Fencer is going to end being even more of a non-damage class.
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I have 1000 TP, what do I spend it on?
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>>145762795
Arrow keys are comfy, and they aim just as easily as the controller. I don't know what general relaxedness you're talking about as I use the keyboard pretty relaxed.
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>>145762659
>Not posting the full version
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>>145762931
Be like this anon and go full str fencer than :^)
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>>145762971
>Arrow keys are comfy
You are kidding, right?
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>>145762940
Wait for new costumes this coming maintenance.
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>>145763041
>Be like this anon and go full str fencer than :^)
Please, Anon. I can only fit so many memes into one character.
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>>145760931
Needing to unequip weapons for polishing is the dumbest shit ever

Why is that a thing honestly
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>>145762917
We have single target dps only
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344b9b.354555.15243541.113a.1a3a485161.1521354153

I don't know what I'm doing
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>>145762989
This is a blue board, anon.
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>>145763075
I already have the only costume I care about (Peltasta Master)
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>>145763041
>1006 attack
how does it feel that you will never use that attack due to dying before doing any damage?
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>>145762610
>wugu sapper kino cannoneer party without chrono
>16mil an hour without a chrono in party

sounds like you need to reroll
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>>145763045
I grew up with the keyboard. I am extremely comfortable using it and have no need for a gamepad. What's wrong? Just because you can't get used to it doesn't mean everyone is the same.
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>>145763123
If that's the case your party really needed to look for a Linker.
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>>145762931
It's not.
Apparently it only affects normal attacks.

And given that it's only maximum damage based on STR, that carries no critical damage and STR is only one part of total damage it's pretty much nothing.
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>>145761780
https://a.pomf.cat/jvyazb.webm

Have you ever been to the 240 dungeon? Know those rooms full of Lapezards? They have some 30 of them in there, and I can taunt almost every single one of them, with just Pelt1.
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>>145763126
What the actual fuck is this?
Completely drop squire or go full squire, not half and half.
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>>145763123
what dps is there ? only monk and hunter ?
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>>145763192
>not using a Steam controller
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>some poor sod selling mithril on the market for only 230k
>want to buy it but have no use for it and can't resell it
It's on telsiai market if anyone wants it.
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>>145760931
>Get asked to Mokusul chamber
>slowly channel fills up to 30 fletchers
>it's just me, healer and doppel who is low lvl
>boss spawn text appears
>I arrive when its health is at 80%
>realize I zoomed too far with zoomify
>I didn't hide names
>all the 40 or so player names now cover the boss monster
>I miss my spells as a result


I'm so sorry....
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>>145763303
Don't need it bro.
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Pyro C2 > Thaum C1
vs
Pyro C3

What're their pros and cons?
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I have a question about High Guard.

Does the -50% attack debuff apply to all of your damage or only your auto-attacks?
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>>145763218
>posting THIS much missinfo
Someone post the function for this retard who doesn't understand what "warrior str*1.3" means.
Its also been directly disproven by people posting screenshots a few thread back.
This isn't even mentioning the fact that str affects both max and min damage not to mention the fact str also gives crit attack.
Fuck the amount of missinfo in this single post is just astounding.
>>145763315
I bought my mithril for 70k in varena before they jumped to 300k anon, the price flactuates alot day by day. Also stop trying to trick people into being a good goy and buying your mithril
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>>145763528
>only your auto-attacks
That
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>>145763528
>>145763564
Misinfo. It applies to all damage, including skills.

We tested yesterday.
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>>145763528
>>145763564

Technically your skills deal skill damage + 1/2 patk
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>>145763552
>Also stop trying to trick people into being a good goy and buying your mithril
>implying I'm stupid enough to sell my mithril for 230k when they go for 500k at least on telsiai
Play the game senpai.
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>swordsman can squire
>wizard can alchemist
>cleric can pardoner

If archers can open shop, what would their shop be?
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>>145763848
Lewds
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>>145763848
Its already known, its called enchanter and seems to be a better alchemist at buffing items permanently.
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>>145763848
It should have been poisons
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>>145763528
halves your attack stat
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>>145763181
wish i had a wugu sapper cannoner there
>>145763269
After the full CON kino3 left we got an A3QS3Musket and nothing else
4 man party
Just a waste of time
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>>145763552
Not him but where does it say warrior str*1.3? Is that official patch notes or just speculation?

>playing on varena
Disgusting.
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>>145763218
>>145763552
Koreans told me it was auto-attacks only. On the same day, Dooddler made a test using Lv1 newly made swordies on kTOS and iTOS and comparing damage. His Bash was doing like 1-2 damage higher in kTOS, which he concluded means it works on skills.

I am not sure which to believe, but ultimately, it's pretty much nothing either way.
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>>145763848
Probably Appraiser
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Why is Mia such a boy bunnyslut....
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>>145764018
lose life
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>>145764018
No, Anon. You are the sluts.
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>>145763763
>>145763796
>>145763946
Okay, so it just cuts your physical attack in half then.
That doesn't seem so bad if you're going a DEX build, especially so if you're using Venier.

I can test it myself eventually, but I have to wait for my Pelt3Squire3 I know to wake up.
Thanks for the info, friends.
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>>145763996
Do you know what a function is anon?
In the off chance that you don't, it means its in the code.
warrior is koreans coding object name for the whole swordsman tree
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REMINDER THAT LOLIPAN IS A SHITTER WHO HAS NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME. DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES. HE TAKES SKILLS BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THEY'LL FIX IT AND IT'LL BE GOOD ONCE THEY DO. KILL YOURSELF LOLIPANIGGER
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>>145762198
>>145763260
So pelt 1 seems to be enough, then. Is it a bug or a feature? I just want to make a build with the most effective HP and run around.
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>>145764139
Do you even speak english anon? I was asking you for the source. Just saying, it's in the code, is not a source if you don't actually prove it.
>varena
Of course, you're a monkey who doesn't understand english.
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>>145763260
>missinfo agents refuse to reply to post which proves them wrong

Hopefully people will stop making shit builds with Peltasta 2 and 3. Literally useless, unless you want to fall for the ET meme, for a minuscule chance to drop a recipe that's almost impossible to craft, for items that will be marginally better than 300+ white recipes.

>>145764243
Most people don't even seem to be aware that it works like this. In fact, it took me a long time to notice myself.

I won't take a guess on whether this is intended or not.
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>>145763927
But Archers are pure Maiden.

>>145764018
uhmm what?
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>>145764409
Mia's puppies...
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>>145764363
You don't take Pelt2 and 3 for Swashbuckling.
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>tfw your ToS crush promised to play with you this weekend and he also forgives the stupid typo you made
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>>145764409
>scout outfit
>pure
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>>145764294
>asks for the source
>gets his source
All you have to do is view the source yourself anon (which has already been posted a few threads back MULTIPLE times), if you can't do that than you're worse than the monkey who doesn't understand english.

>muh random racism because I'm being proven wrong
Yeah sure showing off your intelligence there :^).
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>>145764578
The only thing impure about it is your thoughts.
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>>145764294
>needs spoonfeeding
typical amerifat
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hey /tosg/, how to trade monster gems?
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such an autistic thread
probably even worse than /terag/ at this point
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>>145764554
I can be your ToS crush, I'm more alpha than him and can send lewd nudes ;)
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>>145764579
>trying to make a statement
>doesn't post source
>go find it yourself
The onus is on you to provide the source if you're going to prove someone wrong. Otherwise you're just full of shit.
>muh racism
Fuck off monkey faggot this isn't your hugbox.
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>>145764482
uh? its a Hoglan, not a little doggy.

>>145764578 this >>145764670
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How much Dex does s swordy need for PvP?
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>>145764579
>implying being racist has anything to do with intellect
How fucking stupid of a monkey can you be you subhuman trash?
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>>145762971
Im talking leaning back in the chair and not having to operate a keyboard. Not cramping your hands on the arrow keys. I can understand it being comfy for someone with small as fuck asian hands but dont try to claim its more comfy than a controller that fits nicely in your hands without having to strain anything to use
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>>145764876
No the onus is on you since you want to get all legal.
Your original statement was >>145763218, the burden of proof is on you to prove that it only affects normal attacks when all sources so far makes no mention of this and there are multiple proofs suggesting it isn't so.

Don't get all legal on me if you don't understand even understand how they work.
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I really want to farm recipes for silver, currently have 600k, and this is the most I've had in this game, Cata Pike costs about 3.5m, is hunting Vubbe blood worth it? if not what else should I hunt?
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>>145764554
Why did you delete your previous post? Wrong Nisekoi picture?
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>>145765000
I'm always leaning back in my chair while using the keyboard and I have never cramped my hands on arrow keys. Do you have big fat americunt hands? It is more comfy than a controller. Don't try to claim it as being more comfortable than a keyboard cause you're a fucking huge fatty. I'm not straining anything to use my keyboard.
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>>145765061
Spend your life in Mousleum 4F, maybe you can get sage wall recipe that worth like 3m
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>>145764891
Make a kicking dirt webm please Mia
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>>145765135
is the drop rate good? I mean more than 0.1?
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>>145765034
>no u, you're wrong, prove it yourself, so there, I'm right
kek monkeys going to be monkeys.
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>>145764876
>onus
the onus is on you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the korean str buff to swordsman only apply to autoattacks you shitty amerifat
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>>145765109
>arrow keys
They are not comfy in the slightest

>wasd
Comfy enough

And no, i have avg sized hands for Canada. You need to eat some food neet fuccboi
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>>145765180
I got mine at 4k kills, sometimes it may take over 10k kills. The drop rate is extremely low.
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>>145765273
but please do tell me I've got better chances at this than boater?
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>>145765000
>hey guys, controller is better than keyboard because I say so
>don't claim it otherwise because I don't agree
Full retard.
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>>145765195
You do understand the irony of this statement right?
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>>145764409
nobody cares you fucking attention whore

why don't you quit a 2nd time you fucking attention whore faggot?
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>>145765303
Yup, much better. Boater is like one in million.
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>>145765312
>because he says so
>gives valid points which are hard not to agree with

Reading comprehension
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>>145763848
>If archers can open shop, what would their shop be?

World Boss drops
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>>145765330
Hey brah back the fuck off
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>>145765407
thank god, I've wasted 9k kills ;__;
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Why all the sluts got white hair?
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>>145765205
>onus
the onus is on you to prove beyond resonable doubt that the korean str buff to swordsman applies to all attacks you shitty monkey

Also >>145764006
I'm not even americunt :^)
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>party queue resets once it finds all 5 members

But why
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>>145765330
>why don't you quit a 2nd time
I'm not that wugugirl
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>>145765426
That's nothing I just recently started
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>>145765418
Fuck off retard

>>145765506
you're not a girl at all you disgusting faggot
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>>145765270
>They are not comfy in the slightest
Says you, they are comfy for me. I have average sized hands for a normal human being. Lose weight son.
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Hahaha
Who's squire is this?
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>>145765539
goodluck mate! btw, sorry for many questions, but is there a place here where I could hunt all bulls? it seems that they only spawn 2-3 at a time
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>>145765543
No.
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>>145765415
Like I said, lose weight fatty. Anyone who thinks a keyboard isn't comfortable is a fatass.
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>>145765617
Volt
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>>145765456
The onus is on the original poster whos trying to prove x point you fucking retard.
Why even bring in legal terms if you don't understand how they work?
In adversarial proceedings such as this one the onus, or burden, of proof begins with the who has set the action in motion.

Since you're the original poster that swordsman attack buff only works with auto attacks, the onus is on you to prove it you fucking retard.
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>>145765543
Fuck off Kusohime stop bringing yourself up
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>>145762971
>Arrow keys are comfy

But how are you supposed to properly maintain targeting independent of your character movement with the keyboard keys. That's what ultimately had me switch from keyboard to M&K. It's just easier to point than to try to click around with the keys then lock target.
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>>145765670
>english words are now legal terms only
As expected of monkeys.
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>>145765456
>>145765670
GET A ROOM, WE DON'T CARE
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>no boyfriend to carry me on kToS
why even bother
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>>145765618
Nah, not the bulls, they spawn at 5F, you gotta kill the small stone mobs at 4F. Don't stay in one place though, they spawn around all the map.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344aa4..35.3f.55
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>>145765138
But why..
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>>145765710
The argument was about keybroad vs controller. Obviously mouse is going to be easier to select a target just by clicking, which a controller can't do.
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>mercenary guy doesn't give you a warp back

FUK U
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>>145765791
You do understand even if it isn't legal terms that onus is still on whoever originally made the statement right?

You can't ask for other people to prove x after making a ridiculous statement without first proving ones own y.

I can't tell if you are lacking brain cells, trolling or some combination but please fuck off.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/215100/
SHEEEEEEEEEEEET WHY AREN'T WE PLAYING THIS?
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>>145765710
>But how are you supposed to properly maintain targeting independent of your character movement with the keyboard keys.
Two words: Target Lock
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>>145765936
Does tab targeting even work? I've tried using keyboard controls on multiple occasions but I wasn't able to lock onto anything, much less even tab target.
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>>145765890
ok thanks mate, goodluck to your boater
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>>145766115
Fuck off clique
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>>145766115
Because it's even more dead
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>>145766145
>Does tab targeting even work?
Yes.
It works better than having to deal with the terrible "click boxes" for mobs.
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>>145766145
ctrl button is target lock.
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>>145766095
>implying I'm the original poster
Except he only answered another posters question. >>145762931
>>145763218
You're the one trying to prove him wrong, thus you have to provide proof that he's wrong.
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>>145765901
No reason
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>>145766294

>>145764006
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>>145766115
Such a better steam rating than ToS
Why did steam bully ToS so hard.
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>>145766115
I already am
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>>145765842
>wanting a Korean boyfriend
Fucking gross, dude.
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>>145766115
Because it hasn't been the 2000s for a long time.
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>>145766145
Hit ctrl then hit tab until you got your target.
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>>145766294
Yes but the original anon made no argument points that requires proving.
He however made the argument that str buff only applies to auto attacks therefore the onus is on him to prove this.

I don't understand how you're having trouble understanding this simple concept.
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>>145766368
I want to play on kTOS, not have a relationship with someone from kTOS.

I can't do content without a cutie!
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>>145766464
You can only play on kToS if you have a phone number of someone who lives in Korea.
You'd need a Korean boyfriend to provide that to you.
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>amerifat vs seamonkey: the tale, the game, the novel, the game
even erp chatlogs was better than this
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>>145766426
Did you read the post? There was no argument that str buff only applies to auto attacks, it was just a simple answer >>145763218

The argument only happened when >>145763552 tried to disprove him.
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Another day spent shitting up /tosg/ at work without getting much done.

I'm sorry boss...
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>>145766368
Implying qtpie korean gamer boys aren't the best in the world
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>>145766270
I know, but I've tried everything with both lock on and off. Even with my controls being set to full keyboard and smashing the tab button, targeting doesn't change my target unless something gets closer to me than the thing I'm already targeting.
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>>145766521
I am already playing kTOS, anon.

I want to play kTOS with a cute anon, from /tosg/!
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>>145766115
holy shit that looks like dog shit
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Why the hell does combustion even exist as a skill?

It's so fucking useless
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>>145766372
but we're still in the 21st century. So it's still the 2000s.
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>>145766570
Why is no one leaking erp-logs anyways?

Do people just not erp in this game despite acting super lewd all the time?
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>>145765639
>>145765546

Keyboard =/= arrow keys

Moving with your right hand is awkward and uncomfortable
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How much Dex is necessary to hit those full Dex Archer fgts
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>>145766608
Your mom looks like dog shit.
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>>145766579
>Apparently it only affects normal attacks.
This statement right here is an inherent argument since its going against the expected norm.

As soon as this was stated, the onus was on him to prove it, if onus was never referred to than no-one would've cared but since he has referred to it than the onus is on him to prove his statement first.
i.e. you can't ask someone to prove the argument x after saying y first if you yourself cannot prove y
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>>145766768
You're my mum dude
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>>145766115
>most recent review
sounds nice
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@145766768
get a load of this butthurt rog cliquefaggot shilling his dead game
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>>145766702
The only thing I don't like about controller is it makes chatting annoying to do swapping back and forth
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>>145766702
Except it's not? Many people have no problems using the arrow keys, maybe you're just bad. Gitgud.
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>>145766579
a: "you're a homo pedo child rapist anon"
b: "no i'm not"
a: "prove it"

please stop responding to the sea monkey you shitty amerifat, you're scaring the cuteposters away
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>>145766830
I want RO nostalgia idiots to get out of this general!
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>>145766747
Full dex.

>>145766816
Son, I'm disappointed in you.
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who /mousemodeonly/ here?

I don't feel comfortable when I don't have one hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse, and the gamepad gets annoying whenever you try to play the game while chatting
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>>145766927
>nostalgia idiots
what if im
still playing anon
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>>145766747
just get a 220 leather glove and put 2 green gems in
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>>145767001
How does that change anything? Are you really this dumb?
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>>145767001
then fuck off to your general, you faggot
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>>145766803
>the expected norm
What is the expected norm? Citation needed. Just because you say it is, doesn't make it so. Did you poll everyone in the thread about what the expected norm is? or did your mom tell you so?

This is the problem. There is no expected norm.
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>>145766997
I use mouse mode with a $30 mouse that has a shitload of side buttons.

10/10 perfect comfy. Precise ground skill targetting, most of my skills accessible by thumb and can move easily via wasd.
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>>145766875
Fair enough on that point. Also having to use quest items by hitting V is a pain in the ass too.
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>>145766997
>>145767073
>who /mousemodeonly/ here?
Enjoy missing auto attacks as a Wizard/Archer because the boss moved a bit and their click box isn't the same as their model.

Enjoy having to switch to keyboard mode to access crowded NPCs and use certain items in quests.
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>>145766997
>3d fps era kiddy
>has never played old school 2d fps before
Babies all of you.
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>>145766871
Hes even replying to himself at this point.
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>>145767117
>Also having to use quest items by hitting V is a pain in the ass too.
You can press R2+Start to use quest items on a controller.
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>>145767065
The patch notes outright states str increased by 1.3* for swordsman.
No mention of anything else other than that.
This becomes the expected norm, anything besides this is an outright argument against.

You can keep going all day anon moving the goalposts all you want but just accept you've been completely and utterly rekt to the point that you're resorting to 10 year old "your mama" ad hominems.
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>>145767168
????
I don't even understand what the first thing means, never had a problem. Also if you are playing an archer class then mouse mode is infinitely better for auto attacks due to higher DPS to begin with dumbass.

Second point is moot because you can simply make a keybind for the interact button during mouse mode.
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>>145764776
No, not yet. It is getting close to that cesspool though.
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>>145766997
>not being controller master race
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>>145767073
Agreed my nigga,
the only issue I have is the buggy quest accepting sometimes

>>145767168
I play wizard exclusively, the missing auto attacks doesn't happen to me, also have never problems with accessing crowded npcs
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>>145767168
>Enjoy missing auto attacks as a Wizard/Archer because the boss moved a bit and their click box isn't the same as their model.
No problem here with my Wiz/Archer in mouse mode.
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