Vanheim Edition
Previous Pantokrator >>144867978
Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki
>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/dHdZ1cch
>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf
>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html
>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.
>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee
>Start playing multiplayer games
Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform
Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
1st for dead
How do i join multiplay games
>>145172461
6th months of SP unlocks the option to do MP
>>145172461
>>Play by email guide:
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
rate my first attempt at thug shittery
>>145172747
What the fuck
>>145172747
That is indeed a shitty thug.
>>145172840
>>145172793
what the fuck do you guys know he's besieging a fucking fort on his own and he FUCKING KILLED C'TIS UNITS WITH POISONED SPEARS
>>145172747
>Duel wielding Length 4 weapons
Enjoy that -8 to combat stats.
>>145172865
He is still a shitty thug
>>145172747
Cool but he is a bit underequipped unless you specifically went for a cheap thug. Check this out, it shows how the pro's at desura can pimp out even a mere peasant to bane lord levels. But those thorn spears are a very nice touch if you are going against MA C'tis. Let them have a taste of their own medicine!
>>145172747
>>145172865
You picked a shitty chassis and gave him shitty items. It's shit and would easily be beaten by PD, let alone a halfway-competently put-together army(the AI is not even halfway competent).
>>145173357
That guy must have one heck of a barn.
Hey new Ulm, are you here? How's it going? Are you winning yet?
Does +pen apply to remote rituals?
>>145175334
That's a good question. I'd like to know this as well.
>>145175509
I cast leprosy on an MA Ulm of 750 with +3 pen and hit 250 units. It really feels like not.
>>145175334
If it's something that MR can negate, then yes, it should. At the very least, it counts for mind hunts.
>>145175334
Of course it does. Mind Hunt would be pretty bad without it.
>>145175654
Leprosy description states that only a half of troops in the province are hit by the spell. So, out of 375 troops affected, 125 (1/3) resisted. Everything seems fine.
>>145175803
My bad, in-game description doesn't mention that. It's in the manual, though.
ded
any MA games recruiting?
>>145180780
Yes.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=OnePunchChump
>>145180780
There's also some meme-games:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChaosHander
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP
>>145181417
>Story events on
ErmorOP starting soon. HYYYYPE.
Domg has a dive grass game in 30 minutes. Support your winning team!
>>145183216
I lost my link, share?
>>145183652
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
Section "who runs all of this". Fucking spam filter doesn't let me post even a part of the link.
>>145182128
Has the admin worked out the map issues yet?
>>145183838
Were there map issues? The old map had no issues, Ermor was just made OP with the mod that gave it all the indie provinces in the world. Now it's just a scenario map.
>>145183972
People suggested using a scenario map and when I asked in an earlier thread people said he was still working on getting a scenario map together.
>>145184102
It is done, I'm just making some cosmetic changes before uploading. Also, #skybox command doesn't work, so no cool spooky battlefields for you. Thanks, Illfraud.
>>145183216
I can't. Watching real divegrass. England vs Russia.
>>145184179
Nice. It'll be my first multiplayer game so I hope I do alright.
tfw I win or lose next turn
>>145184332
You picked a hell of your game for your first multiplayer. Not sure that's the smartest choice you could've made, but I hope you'll have fun.
>>145184309
First, Russia will get stomped. Second, we have a better goal horn.
What's this ErmorOP thing? How are the game rules and mods? It seems like a cool idea.
>>145184425
I think I have an okay understanding of the game and everyone starts off with a common enemy, so I should be able to make allies with someone when I need to.
>>145184541
The basic idea is to just give Ermor a bunch of ridiculous advantages (in the first version Ermor started the game owning ALL indie provinces) so everyone has to team up in order to beat Ermor. The Ermor player won't be playing to win (because the game would be over in like 3 turns if he was), but he'll basically be roleplaying the evil overlord that everyone has to beat.
In reality though, this means that Ermor is basically kingmaker supreme and the winner of the game will be the player who gets fucked by him the least.
>>145184793
Is this with summod?
>>145184541
It's a RP(-ish) scenario game that simulates the fall of Ermor, and gives it a very advantageous position in order to enforce player cooperation. After Ermor is (hopefully) defeated, it will devolve into a normal(-ish) game.
Also, is Eldergate Ermor's capital or just another city? I'm having a brain fart.
>>145184886
No.
>>145184910
Lambert has been treating it like the capital so I guess it is.
>>145184886
>using a balance mod
>in a game that aims to make a nation OP as fuck
pls
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErmorOP
1 place left. Be brave, be an hero,don't be a UW nation unless you want a knife fight in a phone boothjoin!
>>145184993
Tell me about Lambert. Is he a good DM? What was/is the game about?
>>145184976
Shame. The summod gem sites would go well with such a game.
>>145185015
Not for the sake of balance, obviously. It changes how Ermor works.
>>145185127
He's pretty good. It's set right at the fall of Ermor, but right now it's mostly about figuring out what a party of characters with the main unifying character gone are going to do with ourselves.
Okay, I've got the password from llama and I'm taking over since our previous admin went MIA after losing a battle, apparently.
Extended the current turn for >>145086789
Will set Pan AI if he doesn't show up until Tuesday.
Let me know if you need an extension or longer hosting intervals.
>>145184910
Eldregate is their canon capital as far as I know.
>>145185127
He's pretty cool, though at this point I have no clue where he plans on taking the plot.
The game started with the fall of Eldregate, with the party being made of slaves and servants of some Ermorian bigwig. We escaped the city unharmed and traveled to some smaller town nearby. At this point the plot seems to center around an asshole Centaur necromancer who has escaped from the party twice and even killed one of the players (but he was an elf so nobody cared).
/domg/'s last group stage match is going to begin soon. Right now it's /ffg/-/rsg/, then it'll be /fgg/-/domg/. We're already through, so it's just a question of whether we 9-point the group or not.
>>145185015
>tfw not enough consistent time to play Dominions these days
I would like to though, it seems like a really fun concept.
>>145185360
>Hore Giving Sloppy Blowjob Punkt
That actually isn't on the first page for me
>>145185369
Where do I see the current standings?
>>145185612
I'm probably just getting bubbled as a sexual deviant.
>>145185618
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6
The stream link is on the wiki's front page.
>>145185739
Which makes it all the more ironic that my Eldregate search is clean, given that fetlife is in my top two most visited sites
>>145185369
>we're gud
How did this happen?
>>145186332
Our whore fox learned to digital divegrass
>Ermor OP
You cowards don't even play dom1.
>>145186332
>Dominions is a game where you have to autistically script stuff so the retarded AI doesn't fuck it up
>Animated divegrass teams need to be autistically scripted so their AI doesn't behave utterly retardedly
>>145186860
This. And simulating thousands of PES matches with Boksi.
>>145186860
>>145186953
Most of this shit is just seat of my pants desu. I don't test much because my potato can barely handle running the game.
>>145187709
That is why we put up all those virtual environments running PES16 up serverside, remember?
>>145187709
script harder then you ever scripted before
>>145187709
When do we play?
>>145188793
Right now.
>>145188793
NOW
>>145185360
>>145185332
Do you have any text recordings, or do you just make voice calls? I'd love to read some dom-related dnd shit.
>>145188971
Cruxador keeps logs on his blog, though he hasn't added the last two sessions yet: https://cruxador.wordpress.com/
>>145189097
If someone's gonna read it I can do that now though.
>manmarking
>>145189287
I'm reading it. Maybe I'll manage to connect your game with ErmorOP somehow.
>>145189287
I read them every week.
we should do something with our offence, man
>>145190174
Its the mememarking.
>>145190174
Who's responsible for this travesty
>>145185360
>>145185332
Glad you guys are liking it, direction and so such will appear over time as I work out what you guys enjoy the most
>>145188971
I can give you the full roll20 logs if you want, same with the discord.
>Relying on "Ulm - Waiting for turn file" to move the ball forward
It's worse than I could have imagined
>>145189539
>>145189739
Well, updated. I don't have a ton of time to do long thorough posts these days, but it's something.
So I take it the game is pretty much over here? Agartha and R'yleh don't seem capable of fighting Ulm, and Pythium is about to be toppled apparently.
Ulm's actually bloodhunting now, and with R'yleh actively supporting them I don't see any way for them to be fought.
vgl6 watcher here, what the flying fuck is your goalhorn from? how the hell did that patrician noise originate?
>>145191095
As it's name implies, it's elephants trampling blood slaves, blood slaves make the scream when hit, elephants trumpet when they attack, tample means the elephants are attacking by moving over a bunch of enemy squares, atatcking each.
>>145191095
https://soundcloud.com/boksi-1/elephants-trampling-blood-slaves-forever
ripped for your pleasure
>>145191095
>>145191218
And blood slaves are literally virgins sacrificed to summon demons.
>>145191218
danke friendo, this general is kind.
>>145191095
It's the sweet sound of female virgin slaves being trampled by elephants.
>>145191218
>>145191303
>>145191389
but what do sneks have to do with it?
>>145191508
Its the team goal horn.
>>145191389
>female
They're actually not, though they look it.
>>145185369
Where do I watch it?
>>145191508
erf snek is a possible god you can select. pretty good at early expansion
>>145191584
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6
>>145191608
>using that erf snek build
It's shit
>>145192101
its the first thing I googled, shitlord
Also, we won all group games, congrats.
W I N N E R
>>145192318
As expected of Erf Snek-san
Hooray, nine points!
>>145191608
>>145192101
Why the fuck would you put additional paths on an erf snek? The entire point of erf snek is how efficient he is as a cheap expander without becoming totally obsolete later because earth is a good path even on its own.
GOD BLESS ERF SNEK, Manager thank you for sending in Bane
>>145192571
Because
Cloud
Trapeze
Wrathful
Skies
Rain
Of
Stones
Erf
Snek
>>145190626
>I have not yet done this.My shopping list is easy, because it's empty. The thing I want the most is a certain magic weapon which right now is outside my budget.
>>145192708
But that's an S snek, not an A snek
>>145193238
LEARN
TO
READ
FGT
>>145192318
>>145192708
Might as well add fire for phoenix pyre and firestorm.
>>145194373
Might as well take lich then.
>>145194504
That's for pussies who cant handle their god dying.
>>145194658
>pussies who cant handle their god dying.
Like Ur?
>>145191254
I've always felt our goalhorn is missing 500 mindlbasts.
>>145194820
Also, the sound of 100 of the Ys sacreds attacking with the firebreath
>>145194820
>>145195162
don't forget 10000 hydras and 500000 horror marks
Good to hear Boksi got gud.
>>145195310
Horrormarks at least cant trigger at the same time. But it's a spooky sound.
Hey Chaoshander admin, any chance of deleting my pretender? After having a chance to try out Xib's new units, they are somewhat underwhelming.
First, here's the chat log, though it's a mess in pastebin. http://pastebin.com/vXn1ZNvk
Second, there's room for one more, and there's a 'friendlyish' spectator that they've ignored the real name of and called 'ghost' whom has heabutted a Lictor which totally could become a PC.
>>145196645
hhhehehehehe
>Virtual divegrass and D&D
Is nobody talking about the actual game here?
>>145199049
Nope.
>>145199049
Post you're battle reports
>>145196645
Ghost only has one arm though.
Hey giants, my fishes are going to (67), be forewarned.
>>145200556
That's fine
>>145201000
Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine
It's time.
>>145195801
K. Who you gonna play next?
Are the divegrass streams recorded and saved anywhere? My boss came in just before our game started so I had to actually do some work for a while and missed it.
>>145199278
It's nothing all that special, but it was the difference between losing the game and not.
GOD
FIGHT
Also domes do prevent teleports, or more have a chance to.
>>145204169
Well now, aint that the million dollar question?
>>145205104
what spells were cast?
>>145205104
Where did you get so many storm demons?
>>145208305
>has lord of plague wind
>where did you get so many storm demons
>>145208305
>>145208430
I empowered two Warlocks to A2. Pazuzu actually hasn't summoned any himself.
>>145208158
A bunch of shit. Most relevant were probably his Army of Lead into my Shimmering Fields. Stygian Rains and Fog Warriors helped keep my guys alive as well, even through the RoS that killed off my Imps.
>>145187709
I couldnt watch it, was it recorded anywhere?
>>145208698
We gave up first point because "Ulm - Waiting for turn" couldn't move the ball up the field and we had only one player on offense. When we switched to a more aggressive formation, we scored two elephants-trampling-blood-slaves-forever and won.
>>145205104
>>145208698
The VOD will be up on the streamer's page eventually. In today's case, it was streamed on the official channel so it'll be there, but previous matchdays are elsewhere.
Also there's Klaxa but I'm honestly unsure of what the situation with that is.
>>145208698
Ulm failed to do anything because he was waiting for .2h to be submitted. Changing him out for bane nailed us two goals with bane pushing thing sup and erf snake nailing the goal. ALso Daigo Umihara was purple and choked hard
>>145201487
What, in hindsight, is the dumbest and/or most far-out thing you've done diplomacy-wise, /domg/?
I want to hear your stories.
>>145211006
agreed to do a gangbang against a nation, On the turn of the attack both of the people I was working with Stalled so I was left to take the bruit of the attack for most of the war
>>145211006
one time i trusted an elf
>>145211006
I tried to make a nation that I could defeat into a vassal to defeat a third nation. They agreed so that I wouldn't finish them off, then promptly betrayed me.
>>145211006
Declaed war on everyone on the same turn.
Would have worked too if not for the pesky skellyspam assassins, darn mages inability to cast useful script off script.
>>145211814
I did that when I wanted to quit the game honorably. It didn't work because irminsul
>>145211006
Whatever the hell it is I'm doing right now instead of just picking someone to war with and just going for it
>>145211006
Hoo boy. It's a long list.
>Got tricked into fighting another nation on behalf of the terrifying mega-nation, got domkilled before I could retaliate.
>Betrayed a prospective ally because I'd rather fight in their dominion than in the other remaining player's.
>Invade LA R'Lyeh as LA Mictlan, which went as well as you might think.
>Side with a nation roughly twice my size to gang up on a prospective ally because they were more cordial to me and offered gifts.
>Sent 15 feebleminded troops onto an ally's cap, wanting to suicide them and free them off. They had much less PD than I thought, and I had to pay many astral pearls as restitution.
I honestly warn everyone I conduct diplomacy with that I make poor decisions, and I should not be considered trustworthy in the least.
>>145213072
I did not receive that warning from you =(
>Fucking hornets and wasps keep trying to fly in and assassinate me whilst I'm doing my dominions turns
>It's too fucking warm to sleep
>I sprayed a wasp earlier and now it's disappeared
fucking summer
>>145214001
Start beekeeping, they may individually be much smaller than hornets and wasps but if you raise a few colonies to a decent size they will outnumber and exterminate the fuckers with extreme prejudice
>>145214554
If I didn't have an innate fear of all buzzing flying insects that might have been an option, but I have barely even seen any bees this year
>>145215521
Bees respect that the giant creatures that wander about are to be avoided, unless they attack the nest. It's like spiders, which mostly recognise us as "too big to pose a meaningful threat to" so avoid us whils killing flies and other stuff too dumb to not annoy us.
>>145215816
le ebin "wasps are angry fuckers" meme :DDD
That's pretty bullshit. Don't fuck with them and they won't fuck with you. It's just that they have a somewhat broader definition of "fucking with them" than most animals people actually interact with.
>>145213072
>Sent 15 feebleminded troops onto an ally's cap, wanting to suicide them and free them off.
>sending a motley crew of retards on a literal suicide mission only for them to succeed, at great cost to the man who sent them to die
>>145216102
Bees have a fairly narrow definition of "fucking with them" which generally is anything that harms the hivewhy did I type nest last time?so as wasps are annoying due to that broad definition, genociding them with the more palatable bees is going for the full meme of "wasps attack everything" but merely "bees are more tollerant of humans".
>>145211006
Gave money to jews, then got immediately invaded
>>145219664
Giving them money just signals that you have lots of money. And what do the jews like?
>>145219908
Uh... cannibalism
>>145218674
heh
>>145220871
Well yeah, and eating in general. But what else do they like?
>>145219664
lmao, is this Bully elves? your story was kinda cute
>>145219664
for the record, I did let you get the province back, I just invaded you the turn after
Best nation coming through
what's the least-terrible way to play EA R'lyeh?
>>145225348
Mass androleths and you can become a crappier agartha
>>145225348
Like a worse EA Agartha, with a bless for the sacred mindblasters and Androdai and hope that your opponents are going to let you communion into decent spells
>>145225867
>>145213608
Then if it's any consolation, you were one of the reasons for it.
>>145216248
Yeah, I know. They were my A-team. Unfortunately they were trapped behind neutral lines, and all they could do was patrol until mummified lizards slaughtered the world. They were lovely while they lasted though.
>>145225348
Throw literally every amphibious troop you have onto a coastal province, buy an insane amount of PD, and pray to god you can put the fort up. Then, get some Androdai as communion slaves and mind vessels, and use the high-level Astral Alteration spells to make your slave armies actually good. Having a pretender able to forge Amulets of the fish is also mandatory.
>>145211006
Oh boy, do I have one, and it just happened. I'm playing a game with sum1won and blitz co, but my expansion sucked so I was broke as shit, couldn't even afford to build a fort on my throne. Sum1won convinces me it's a good idea to sell him earth gems for some much needed cash. He even bargains the price down to much lower than my bid. The turn he sends the gold and I send the E gems, he attacks my throne, and then next turn, he casts Wizards Tower W I T H MY E A R TH G E M S ! !
What are your favorite generated names?
>>145228484
If I've learned anything from the steamchat blitz games it's that sum1 just wins.
Especially when he's 'testing a nation for summod.'
>>145228549
ORPHANEATER
delicious children
>>145211006
Well, I can't say I have ever made a dumb trade in my life. However, my most left-field trade was back when I first became The Trump back in Armemegeddon. I was in the middle of a 3v1 as Xibalba. After fending off Ur and removing a few of Fomoria's Kings with assassins, my only big annoyance was Pan. In order to stop their Revelers from destroying their own lands while I was dealing with the other two, I successfully made a deal with Ermor where I would Take down an Indi fort they could not break the walls of, in exchange for them taking and ceding to me 4 of Pan's Provinces including one of their forts. That in and of itself wasn't the outlandish part, as I have made and offered such deals before. The part that is so far-out is that Ermor didn't actually believe I would be able to make such a good deal when he started talking to me. The guy, a great guy if you get the chance to talk to him, he actually thought he was going to laugh me out of the negotiation room because I was Xibalba. Well, we were both laughing at the end of it, let me tell ya. Good times.
>>145229286
hinnom.png
>>145228484
How does he already have enough research for Wizard Tower while you're too poor to FORT YOUR THRONES?
>>145225348
Spam armageddon and cancer globals until everyone goes AI, then beat the AI.
>>145234932
ain't no bitchmade furry faggots in this game
>>145228549
He seems fun to hang out with
>>145234932
I will weather all the cancer. BoT, Armageddon, Utterdark, Astral Corruption, I have survived all thee.
I've actually probably played more turns with Astral Corruption up than with it not being up.
>>145229286
I'm pretty sure I had a CHILDFEASTER at one point
>>145237141
I had that on a dusk elder.
Still need more people for ChaosHander
>>145236394
If you have the Throne of Night (especially with half-decent sacreds/sacred mages), which always seems to fall near me, Utterdark is a fucking blessing.
>>145243237
Not for your income.
>>145243581
Sure, but everyone's getting fucked equally on that front, and you can afford to recruit less (sacred) troops and do better against them to take their shittier land.
Demons and bats have full darkvision and bats can replace their gold economy entirely with blood.
>>145244504
Blood nations don't play by standard rules and will want to cancer everyone else once they've gone full blood, everybody knows that.
>>145244903
meant in response to >>145243237 &
>>145244272
Blood nations be like "Oh, you have nightvision on your sacreds? That's cute."
>>145243237
>>145245019
By lategame most nations (especially blood) can just cast Darkness anyway.
You should just aim to break into death if you have darkvision sacreds, that way your income doesn't get screwed.
>>145245625
Having a D4+ mage not need to cast a huge fatigue spell at the start of the fight is really nice, but you're right that it should be going up at the start of every fight anyways.
That said, the income hit still hurts them less than nations that don't have the option to turn their gold income into blood slave income like I'd mentioned. If there isn't a pop-kill nation in the game or someone else that similarly already doesn't care a whit about gold, it's good for the demon-fuckers to have utterdark up.
>>145246517
Utterdark is definitely useful for blood nations on a strategic level.
I was mainly talking about the effect of utterdark on battles, which should be fairly minimal. It might be helpful for raiding, I guess.
>>145248473
You're tremendously underestimating the value of 6 attack, defense and precision. This is an absolutely insane decrease in combat efficiency, and makes most units that do not have some darkvision completely fucking useless. Nearly any unit with darkvision will slaughter any unit that doesn't. Darkness is more useful to just simulate, well, darkness, though.
>>145248473
>which should be fairly minimal
Look at that faggot and laugh.
>>145250571
>>145251067
Did you miss the last two posts talking about how everyone with darkvision is going to be casting Darkness in fights long before Utterdark goes up?
Every battle will already have Darkness in it, so utterdark hardly matters.
>>145251067
>>145250571
What he was saying wasn't that the darkness effect was minimal on battles, but that you cast darkness for all of your battles anyways - and probably long before you put up Utterdark. The comparison isn't between darkness and not-darkness for battles, but between a 400 fatigue D4 spell that costs 4 D gems and not casting that spell. Which is still a big deal.
>>145244903
Blood Nations aren't fond of BoT or an Armageddon Engine. Both will remove Blood from the world sooner or later. Every 11 Armageddons kills 90% of the world, so 22 would kill 99%, which makes blood basically impossible even in capitals (which will have a pop in the hundreds at that point).
>>145253539
yeah armageddon spam is the 'counter' to blood - and gold economies and human sized anything
>>145253710
But not human-sized skellingtons, senpai.
>>145253539
BoT or Armageddoning during an endgame push for a Blood Nation isn't terribly uncommon.
>>145253539
>>145253710
Also, building off of this - a blood nation that can spam out vampire lords will be well off following armageddon spam, because in addition to whatever demons they've amassed, they can keep producing flying immortal 'chaff' in sufficient quantities to have an actual army at a point in the game where everyone that hasn't broken into blood will lack one.
>>145253835
Armageddon kills the crap out of skelingtons.
>>145253870
But skellingtons will just keep coming. There's no stopping them. Also, can armageddon negate ethereal or not? Because if not, ghosts are pretty safe in 75% of cases.
>>145185334
thanks man, I can probably take my turn tomorrow.
>>145253870
Everything kills skellingtons in droves. The problem is that there's ALWAYS FUCKING MORE.
>>145253970
>>145254264
For Ermor, sure. For someone like Lanka and Sceleria, you can kill some of their reanimators.
Well, Lanka less so assuming they're using their apes, since they can survive an Armageddon or two. You can definitely kill their indie assistants, though.
Midgard do ur fucking turn
Sorry R'lyeh but I need a way out of my Peninsula prison. You are the easiest way. You can keep your fort.
At what point can a SC, given an incredible chasis (like Hinnom's final summons) and access to any item combination needed, plus as many wishes for power as needed, reach the point of 'literally unkillable'?
>>145260435
Never ever.
A group of mages that are properly prepared for the SC will always have a good chance of killing it, assuming they have enough chaff to distract it.
>>145260556
But what if it's in the range of 'regenerating more than a soul slay's worth of damage a turn'? There's always MR-focused spells like Enslave and whatnot, admittedly.
>>145260725
There are spells that instantly eliminate an unit no mr save no damage - like hell banishment. Sure, your SC could survive in hell for infinite amount of time but he is off the map and useless.
>>145260556
And what spells do you use to kill the SC?
>>145260878
Soul slay, mind control, life for life, petrify, claws of kokythus/inferno version.
>>145260847
It's not terribly hard to return from banishments assuming we're at this ridiculous stage of spending like, tens of thousands of gems on a single unit.
>>145260976
So? You spent some time in hell and can be instantly sent back with another cast. Effectively the SC is dead for the duration.
give me memes
Tien'Chi, wanna talk? Because I do. I see the potential for fruitful negotiations right now. You'd have to be crazy not to get in on this.
>randomly wake up in middle of the night
>can't stop thinking about how i messed up my turn
>have to check to make sure my nation is okay
Okay, back to bed.
Also, help me /domg/. I've never had this problem before.
>>145263012
It's just a game, m8. Chill.
>>145263224
I know. I told myself that repeatedly as I laid in my bed... thinking about how I was going to do the next turn. I have a problem. An addiction. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, right?
>>145263438
I did this too. Took a break. Got dragged back into it. You can never leave.
>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2981&st=45&#entry22148700
Individual cost changes:
Vanhere
WotFE
Shadow Vestal
Enkidu's Chosen
Ur-Guard
Boar Warrior
Carnute Warrior
Undisciplined bakemonos
Groups (if IIRC):
Pale ones
Ancient Ones
Enkidus
Horites
Vanaras
>>145211006
Well, that's not any particular event but my #1 weakness, I suppose, is that what I personally think of as efficient communication (let's do x, or alternatively I do y) tends to be perceived as ultimatums and hostile intent, and when diplomacy doesn't go my way, I tend to get whiny, which makes my cause less sympathetic for third parties even if I legitimately think my suggestions are the most beneficial deal available for third parties.
On the other hand, while this is also my standard way of playing, my playstyle tends to be very aggressive and decisive. For example, if I'm losing a war on one front and I can't come up with a counter to what my opponent is doing yet, I wouldn't hesitate to open another front while trying to dodge fights against my original enemy and conquer territory faster on one side than I'm losing on another (and as such keep up some level of competitiveness while I wait for research to provide me with potential counters against the original enemy: even the hardest counter doesn't matter if you've been reduced to your capital by the time you can employ it, or your desperate attempts to push back the enemy army has destroyed your armies and mages). The way I see it, you HAVE to be at least "competitive" in overall size and strength compared to the current leaders of the game so even seemingly suicidal play is worth the risk because alternative is a guaranteed loss in the long term.
>>145264463
Well, that helps with finding the changes. Actual numbers for the things he mentioned:
Groups:
Pale ones cost reduced by 1 (to 9)
Ancient ones cost reduced by 10 (to 40)
Enkidu cost reduced by 1 (to 16)
Horite cost reduced by 2 (to 23)
Vanara cost reduced by 1 (to 9)
Individual:
Vanhere cost increased by 10 (to 40)
WotFE cost increased by 9 (to 35)
Shadow Vestal cost increased by 10 (to 45)
Enkidu's Chosen cost decreased by 5 (to 30)
Ur-Guard cost decreased by 3 (to 19)
Boar Warrior cost decreased by 5 (to 25)
Carnute Warrior cost decreased by 1 (to 11/15 for barechests/nobles)
Undisciplined Bakemono cost decreased by 1 (to 7)
>>145228484
>Not mentioning that EA R'lyeh thwarted his plans by killing his God and banishing two golems to fuck knows where.
>http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2927&st=60&#entry22148702
Full version of Magic Enhanced. PBEM when?
>>145266861
>No gold cost reduction for Machaka's troops
Welp, maybe when the next balance patch comes out in another 6 months
>>145268463
Actually, Rhino Clan is now 1g more expensive than before.
>>145268538
For what purpose?
>>145268827
Machaka OP pls nerf.
>>145268827
Well, didn't Anon say he planned to win with Machaka recently? Should have kept his trap shut.
>>145268827
Illwinter buffed Agatha and nerfed Therodos, they have no damn idea what they're doing.
>>145269275
Did they nerf Therodos again in this patch?
>>145270252
No, that part is from last patch.
deceased
Is not ded that which can eternal lie
Can you recommend a good start for an MA Rlyeh pretender? I have no idea what I'm doing. I guess nature would be good because they don't get that normally?
>>145274986
You usually want an awake expander, since your expansion is pretty terrible without one, and you don't have any recruitable sacreds worth taking a bless for. A bless for some of the void creatures like a vastness would make them pretty annoying to get rid of, but the good ones are rare enough that it's not really that worth it. Also, slave mages have a nature random so you don't necessarily need to worry too much about that.
>>145269002
Fuck you. I'll win. I am about 50 turns from it.
>>145278584
A lot can happen in 50 turns.
>>145278878
I am on my way. It's not like I am unstoppable, but the MASTER PALN is ready.
>>145269275
To be fair, the Agartha troops that they buffed are fucking useless.
I haven't play Conquest of elysium 4 for quite some time
Should I be expecting random animal to capture all my shit still?
I took a quick look over patch notes but I didn't see anything regarding this
>>145280681
If you don't have some token defense stationed at your sites, expect to lose them to dumb shit.
You can play in an age with less forests which helps tune down the amount of random animals a bit though.
>>145280681
With forts having gates as of COE4, a single archer can protect forts against almost any independent invasion.
>>145228982
I'm gonna lose this one. Rlyeh teleported a team of commandos onto the other throne I took this turn, and, as early Ulm in late game who was behind in research and gems to two players, a throne grab was my last chance at winning
>>145230751
Easy research, I have magic 3 and boosters, he has bad provinces, and he's blood hunting
>>145281038
In retrospect, I'd likely have won this one if I had snagged Ctis's province instead. He didn't have anywhere near the same magic phase response ability that Ryleh had.
>>145283529
I did wonder why you went for my throne, the reason it wasn't forted was because I could teleport aboleths there when needed, though your dome stopped a few vital ones making it
Do your fucking turns (or, admin, if you can react in time, make an extension)!
>>145286052
Too bad, looks like they staled.
