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>>144657851

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>How to get autosummon covenants to work on PC:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg
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>bloodborne

lol
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Yorshka!
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What's the lore on Carthus? I noticed every mandatory area in the game is related to a lord of cinder one way or another. That is, except for the catacombs which are kind of just there, but it seems to have no porpuse except for broken shit and Wolnir seems to be a standalone boss.

For what porpuse are we even visiting it?
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xth for Poise
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PLEASE VOTE FOR YOUR PREFERRED META LEVEL IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY

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IF YOUR PREFERRED LEVEL ISN'T LISTED, PLEASE CHOOSE THE CLOSEST AVAILABLE OPTION
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>>144676793
tfw no succ provisions
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>>144676956
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>>144677047
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>>144677074
"it's nothing but backstabs"
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REMINDER TO REV UP THOSE TWINKS AND PRACTICE YOUR BACKSTAB FISHING FOR THE DAS1 REDDIT EVENT THIS WEEKEND.
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>>144676946
>What's the lore on Carthus? I noticed every mandatory area in the game is related to a lord of cinder one way or another. That is, except for the catacombs which are kind of just there, but it seems to have no porpuse except for broken shit and Wolnir seems to be a standalone boss.

Abyss Watchers were either:

>In the midst of fighting the Abyss around Carthus

or

>Descendants of Carthus swordsmen after Wolnir got fucked by the Abyss
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>>144677126
Literally just use CE.
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is it dead yet ?
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>>144677171
>tfw deleted my counter-twink
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>>144676946
The main road to Irythill is blocked.
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>get ring of favor after killing the two crocdogs in the basement by archdeacon mcds
>can buy armor of favor after
>this is a timeline where Lautrec survived Anor Londo but somehow got caught up in Pontiff's bullshit
>Pontiff is responsible for ruining literally every single thing in Souls

what an asshole
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>>144677278
>fuccboi lying about making counter twinks
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>>144676946
I suppose we just pass through there on the way to Irithyll.

I think it's implied that the Abyss Watchers are descended from Carthus, and picked up the mantle of Abyss Watching after it consumed their lord and ruined their civilization. That's why their own Mausoleum is connected to the Catacombs at large.
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>>144677383
he's fucking brilliant
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>I have to kill the Nameless King to get Ornstein's armor
>I can't kill him as Ornstein

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>144677260
>getting dc'd by watchdog vs rusing the fuck out of faggots
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>>144677502
NG+
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What's goin' on, guys? This is MartyrsBrigade99 coming to you once again with another session of /dsg/.

Alright guys, we're back at it with a little series I like to call "The General Thread". First off, lets give a show of appreciation to our good ole /dsg/. Now a lot of times -- or should I say most of the time. Actually I cant even say that, the vast majority of times -- the primary form of posting in these threads are pictures. And that’s alright; thats cool and everything, but to turn around and uh... you know, disrespect others for not posting pictures... Well I only have one thing to say to hotshots like you: Get off it.

If you think that pictures are more important than all the writing styles, all the information, and uh... all the community contributions, well then I suggest you re-evaluate your posting style.

Now before any of you jokers from the reporting brigade jump on me, I am not dissing the usefulness of pictures. But until you can demonstrate for YOURSELVES, that you can have a successful and positive thread using ONLY images, then you cannot refute my beliefs. Besides, here in the brigade we like to do things a little differently.

Now it's funny, because every single high speed pasta reporter and every hotshot image poster who has come in here with their ridiculous accusations, not a single one has been able to demonstrate that images can be used as the primary form of communication. And that's that.

Until next time...

MartyrsBrigade...

is...

out.
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>>144677705
have I gone back in time?
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>>144677705
get off it, dude
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>>144677649
why the fuck would you ever play ng+
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>tfw no Velka's rappier
>tfw parrying dagger is useless shit with med shield tier 15 frames startup for unknow reason
>tfw no Karmic justice
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>>144676946
It's in the way
It's also weird in that the Catacombs of Carthus provide a direct link from Farron Keep to Irithyll, to the point that the people of Irithyll bothered to build a proper exit around the cave after Wolnir, but there's a blocked road which would imply that the way the player goes is indirect, but I have no idea where that blocked road would come from, because the big road from Lothric castle just leads to the Undead Settlement
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>you are minding your own business
>playing some PVE
>some fuccboi twink invades you looking to get some easy tongue

POST YOUR BATTLE MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzVBqBosf5w
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>>144677705
What's goin' on guys? This is MartyrsBrigade99 coming to you once again with another session of /dsg/.

Alright guys, we are back at it once again for Part 2 of a little series I like to call "The General Thread". Now before we get started, I'd just like to clarify a few things, 'cause in reading over the comments section from last time, it seems that some of you jokers still don't understand the purpose of this series.

First and foremost: the purpose of the series is not just to showcase any one particular posting style -- whether it be images, or whether it be text, or whether it be so-called "memes" or whatever -- but rather, the whole purpose is to bring together other players in the community REGARDLESS of their posting style. Now, granted, some of you hotshots have been in here for a while and have come to expect certain things from other members of the community. I get it. But for you to get so offended that you had to run off to your little moderator buddies for simply expressing my OPINION? Well, I've got just one thing to say to you: Get off it.

Did I do anything against your so-called "honor rules"? No, I did not.

And did I post any illegal images or so-called "CP"? No, I did not.

All that I did, in that particular thread, if you recall, is express my OPINION of the series -- something that some of you got so offended by that you had to call in the Reporting Brigade. But hey, lets face it: it is what it is.

Until next time...

MartyrsBrigade...

is...

out.
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>>144677940

that road leads to undead burg from dark souls 1
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>>144677990
YOU'RE WORSE THAN HORNET RING BACKSTAB FISHERS

GET OFF IT DUDE
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>>144677990
someone explain this meme to me
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>>144677913
>those edgy as fuck quotes
/dsg/ was cringe
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>his waifu isn't a dragon
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>>144678098
>RP
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>>144677278
Why don't you make a new one, friend?

With CE you can do it in an hour or two depending on what gear you need.

I just started a new invader and I'm already 1/3 of the way complete after less than an hour.
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who /demon's souls/ here
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This is the first time I did a Moonlight Greatsword run.

This is actually really fun and cool. I like it
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>>144678129
>his cock isn't a dragon
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>>144678164
LE LEGEND NEVER DIE
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>>144676154
>tfw you beat an entire 7 man fight club, until finally the host jumps down as the 8th, and you beat him too despite his constantly buckler parry fishing
>with a goddamn lothric knight long spear

I fucking came. I'm so fucking happy now that I've discovered the true power of the long spear and how to use it effectively, how to properly space and counterattack and adjust attack timings and how to play around parrying which (used to be, for me at least) its biggest weakness. I'm still not sure if it can be parried at the tip or not (like halberds and glaives can't be parried at max range), but it hasn't happened yet and I've been trying on purpose just to test it so seems like good news to me.

Still, this multi-victory was so delicious to end the night.
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>>144678171
>set player speed to 4x in CE
>play through game
>set back to normal once build is done
>depression sets in due to not being sanic anymore
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>>144678254
remember when that guy made stupid RP pictures of his characters?
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Well at least I got a front row seat with these games to watch how a playerbase turns form fun to twitch watching kids
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>>144678129
kill yourself you degenerate furfaggot
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>>144677951
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzVBqBosf5w
>mfw just finishing a 3 hours session of devil of the archdragon peak
this might be my favorite zone to invade, so full of different players, so little ganking squad and summonrollers
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>>144678239
no one cares about your shitty waifu character
kill yourself you virgin faggot
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>>144678226
who /dark souls/ here
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I need your help, /dsgay/.

Which tattoo best emulate semen?
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Is there going to be another patch soon?
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>>144678226
Still the best
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>>144678869
You already spent 60 bucks why would they patch it?
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>>144678932
been replaying it a lot recently, I don't think there's a cooler armour than dull gold or male fluted
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>>144678724
No, you don't seem to get it. It's the sword
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>>144678842
taht one looks semen-like and i should know i've seen a lot of semen on other people's faces (not mine though) in my time looks good man
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/dsg/ i have a confession to make

Every new character I create I always rush a Anri+4 skipping Dancer and pumping Luck to 40 so I can have a really strong weapon with little to no investment because luck also helps with farming. I go through the entire game with it and when I do get invaded I usually destroy the invader because it's a dumbass straight sword and I feel so guilty but I just want the game to be over so I can go to pontiff with my new try out build.
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>>144678842
Move away from the nose, it looks like catarrh.
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>get darkmoon blade
>stay in darkmoon cov
>cast DMB in every police summon

its amazing how angry some of these hosts got
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>>144679041
dull gold and shaman set
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>>144678842
I thought it was supposed to be snot.
Maybe the dragon tattoo, but turn it diagonally? Post results
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help me with a euron build you coxswains

serve the one true god
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>>144678869
Friday [1/2]

Archdragon Peak: Fixed the freeze when jumping into the fog after ringing the bell.
The Rinfinger Leonhard quest will now start properly after the removal of the restriction on the maximum number of Pale Tongues that can be offered to Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth.
Trophies will now unlock correctly even if the required item is sent directly to the storage.
Fixed a Skill being changed based on a right hand weapon when equipping White Hair Talisman on the left hand while holding the Sacred Flame with both hands
The Horsehoof Ring (which increases stamina drains of ATK) will no longer affect other attacks besides its initial effect on kicks.
It will no longer be possible to equip a helm when using a Wax Pool after using the Dragon Head Stone.
Fixed the HP drain damage of Symbol of Avarice when resting near bonfire.
Fixed a spell animation and effect not synching up when using the magic repetitively.
Fixed when summoning the white phantom NPC under a certain circumstance, the character's collision will properly function nullifying all enemy attacks.
Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
Adjusted the attack cancel parameters of some curved swords attacks.
Adjusted the attack power and skills of fist and claw weapons.
Adjusted the skills of twin blade weapons.
Fixed the scythe not penetrating shields at close distances.
Adjusted stamina consumption and attack cancel parameters for rapier weapons.
Adjusted the attack collision for the washing pole weapon.
Adjusted parameters of Farron Hail and Busting Fireball.
Adjusted casting speed, stamina consumption, cancel timing of some Spells.
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>>144679106
Right.

I try making it smaller.
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>>144679145
I don't get it.
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shit
anon who answered me offering the upgraded Farron's Greatsword, I don't mind, are you still here?
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HE COMETH

>Adjusted the attack power and skills of fist and claw weapons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCWbl8ajfA8
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>>144678239
is that a kite shield? i thought that had parry? how are you using the weapon art 1 handed?
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>>144679269
is that russell crowe
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>>144678869
[2/2]

Increased the number of arrows/bolts that can be possessed.
During online multiplayer: During the invasion of a Dark Phantom, the host will no longer be separated from his area.
During online multiplayer: A dark phantom can no longer be forcibly brought back in some maps.
During online multiplayer: When the player is summoned during a boss battle, the boss will no longer become motionless even after the player is back to his/her world.
The status effects below the stamina gauge will no longer be hidden when opening the top menu with HUD display set to auto.
The voice chat icon will now remain visible when the HUD display is set to "Auto."
Fixed the display of strength level shown in the equipment menu when using two-handed weapon.
Other game balance parameters have been adjusted.
Several game flaws fixed.
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>crucifixion woods NG++ for master of rings
>just trying to get by
>get invaded by some fucker wearing black hand chest and some other shit
>spamming the dual katana jumping attack
>hits me every time because he's also teleporting around like a fucking maniac, australian on steroids
>pulls out a parrying dagger and parries me on his first try
>kills me
I don't know anymore

I just give up
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>>144678129
Those are some fuckable armpits.
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>>144679395
It has parry. It's not the weapon art. Are you blind?
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>>144679270
>Fixed when summoning the white phantom NPC under a certain circumstance, the character's collision will properly function nullifying all enemy attacks.
RIP twink runs.
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>>144679258
you did ok fast rolling havel man.
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>>144679270
wanna know how I know this is bullshit
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>>144679392
>>Adjusted the attack power and skills of fist and claw weapons.
>They nerf them
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>>144679469
You can still have 13 estus +8 before lothric castle, so it's fine.
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any fcs going on?
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>>144679536
>dunked

>>144679525
But it was confirmed on plebbit by a bamco rep
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>>144679223
Dragon isn't bad.
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>>144679270
>>144679421
>still no estoc and dark sword nerf
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>>144679335
Well they seem to think they have some duty to wear WOB to help blueberries farm ears, and get pissed at me because I already completed the covenant and still stealing away summons
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>>144679454
no im not blind. why would you ask that?
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>>144679420
no, the art looked better in my memory
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>>144679665
>Adjusted stamina consumption and attack cancel parameters for rapier weapons.
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>>144679395
The MLGS shots beams with the charged attack.

The WA is the Bloodborne poke
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>>144679665
>Adjusted stamina consumption and attack cancel parameters for rapier weapons.

nonsense, you buff estoc
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>>144679696
Because the parry symbol is literally right there and he's using a charged 1HR2.
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>>144679720
hopefully this means a delay between r1 swings making it impossible to combo
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>>144679758
ah i see
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>>144679486
should i do a havel build ?
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>>144679525
http://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/350532795333617493/
get mad chunky monkey
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So how are your parries /dsg/?

You DO parry right?
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>Fixed when summoning the white phantom NPC under a certain circumstance, the character's collision will properly function nullifying all enemy attacks.
>Fixed the scythe not penetrating shields at close distances.
>Other game balance parameters have been adjusted.
What did they unironically mean by this
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I prefer how DaS2 did weapon arts.

Just a nice unique attack attached to L2. No need to be super powerful or attached to a stupid magic bar.
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>>144679856
it's all the rage these days just make sure to not stop leveling vit
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>Several game flaws fixed.
>Vitality removed
>Added Resistance
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What are some good infusions for chaos that aren't the Astora Greatmemesword?

Or, alternatively, how do I make the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q54zHO7kLuMxbZyFXb7ANHKogz6Mvbir0cA3YqI6Xuk/edit#gid=0 work? I have no idea how to read/manipulate anything in it.
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>>144679647
I meant make it stretched out over her face to make it look like bukakke
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>>144679758
>The WA is the Bloodborne poke
if only
it does a retarded slow poke instead of a fast, aggressive hyperarmor stab of bb
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>>144679102
i do the same thing desu
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>>144680031
Man that thing was so fun to use. Using the trick out of the regular sword was super satisfying.

Also a shame that the effect trails were removed.
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>>144679910
I can not for the life of me figure out how the fuck to time the parrying dagger properly. Or hardly any of the parrying tools in this game honestly.
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>>144679910
Oh I parry

>parrying dagger
fuck outta here wit that gay shit
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>>144680031
>
I know the lighting on the Moonlight Meme was great in BB but how could anyone betray the posterboy loadout

It's a great loadout

Can you even use a gun with the tricked Ludwig or Moonlight swords? I haven't gotten that far in.
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>>144679910
They're fine.
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>>144679041
I'm disappointed that even with all the DeS call backs, they never brought back the Fluted Knight set
The DS3 Knight set just doesn't compare
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>Estoc nerf
Nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>144679982
I'll try, but all these tattoos are too uniform. They don't make good bukkake.
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>>144679910
easy as fuck
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anyone can spare me winged twin axes unupgraded (or below +4)?
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>>144677990
>tfw no sansviedotcom to re-upload Dark Souls nico videos
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>>144680193
This is a joke right?
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>>144680193
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>>144680212
i think that riposte would have killed him without the hornet ring
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If there was one thing I wish Dark Souls 2 and 3 learned from Dark Souls, it would be to not have a level up girl. There's just the first reason of convienence, being able to level up whereever you are, really, but there are other reasons. Yeah, I know a ton of you probably like the Emerald Herald and the Fire Keeper, and I understand that they have those level up women there so that you have more reason to come back to the home base and do things like side quests, but having fire keepers around makes the atmosphere weaker for me. You're the only character that level up girl is helping level up, no one else is going to get with her. In Dark Souls 1, you leveled up at bonfires, the things that all Hollows are drawn to. In Dark Souls 1 you felt much more like any other hollow, going on the same quest that many others have. Your enemies and friends are strong because they too used those bonfires to grow, it felt like you were all on the same level. With the level up girls though, it feels too much like you're somehow more special, no one else can level up but you and the people who hang out with these fire keepers. You're no longer a pilgrim, you're a homebody. There could have been better ways to bring you back to Firelink.
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>>144680247
where them patch notes at senpai
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>>144680358
No?
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I'm torn on what to do for my next build
Dark-based buff build. Kill Sirris for Sunless Talisman so I can cast Dark Blade optimally as soon as possible and build the character around using low requirement raw weapons (Corvian Greatknife, etc) and later incorporate Lifehunt Scythe and Dark Edge for a general melee-focused dark caster

OR

Morne's Hammer build with minimum requirements to wield the hammer and Farron Ring with a simple offhand for maximum WA mileage.

Which one would be more fun for pve?
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>>144680212
Rings shouldnt work for 10 or so seconds after equipping them, same with weapons.
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>>144678612
what zone my nigga
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OH SHIT
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>>144680462
>being this retarded
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what the fuck is this
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>>144680193
you're so bad it hurts
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>>144680406
Oh it sure would. But gotta get that SSS.
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>>144680156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcWuV6M4kOM

To be fair the old parrying dagger I never really got the hang of, it just parried whenever the hell it wanted
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just bought dark souls 3, and my question is does 3s story expand much on 2s?
i never played 2 and want to know if i will miss out on anything in 3s story because of it
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>>144680467
>parryspam
>backstabbed
>he backs you into a corner and you cheese with magic
>again, parry spam
>shitty lag latency parry
>you win

yeah man the parrying dagger is for FAGS haha!
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>Fixed issue where skills could be performed even when a certain amount of FP was not available.
does this mean that some weapon arts cant be used without full FP now? i didnt know that was an "issue". if thats the case its fucking shitty, damn it
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>>144680462
>being this blind
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>>144677783
He's making DkS3 videos
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Was there anything to suggest that Anri was actually in on marrying you? She never seemed to suggest feelings for you, or having alternative plans on her mission. It was only Yuria saying that you needed a waifu/husbando.
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>>144680689
>cheese with magic
halen is a fag but ffs man what about that was cheesy
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>>144680529
I KNOW you can make a bukakke facial, man.
The "only got it on my mouth" is ugly.
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>>144680330
anyone?
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>>144680747
>no achievement for keeping anri alive and betraying yoora, then killing aldrich with her
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>>144680762
the guy was weakened from magic bullshit
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anyone have any strategies to go against a 1v3?
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>>144680687
3 does 2's story right, while mostly pretending 2 doesn't exist
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>>144680828
Platform, fuccboi?
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>>144680701
WAs being usable without FP was stated very clearly in official pre-release promotions to be a very intended feature. A lot of WAs have meticulously balanced penalties for being used at 0FP, like the Carthus Greatsword, that fails to combo when used with no FP, or the Wolf Knight GS, that triples its stamina costs at 0 FP.

The patch notes are most likely referring to the ability to get a WAs full, unpenalized effects with only 1 FP, which is what made the simple infusion so godlike.
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Bukkake by a big man or a dragon or whatever the fuck with a big dick in the game.
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>>144680828
pc, console, pass? I have an asston
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>>144680689
>parryspam
Where
>backstabbed
Yes it's DS1
>cheese with magic
What
>again, parry spam
Where
>lag parry
Yes, as most parries are among all of the games
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>>144680891
ps4, love
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>>144680701
name a single weapon art that keeps functioning as intended when you use it without FP.
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>mfw Blade Sorceries
Dark Edge and Soul Greatsword are bae, Farron Flashsword is cool but it might as well be a butter knife, and Lifehunt Scythe never hits anything.
All in all, I'm glad sorcery is now viable.
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>>144680872
Use the monsters to your advantage.
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>>144680585
it's just a beta
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Is anything going to be legitimately fucked come the 10th? Or is meta still gonna be meta and cancer still gonna be cancer? I'm confused as to whether the new patch is making some significant changes, or if it'll just be some superficial, minor thing and estocs and twinblades and washing poles will still be barely noticeably weaker? Do we have any idea or is still a "well we'll see when they actually release the patch" sort of thing?
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>>144680972
>scythe
>sorcery
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Mail breaker or Dagger for ripostes? Lighting infusion.
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>>144680863
>the guy was weakened from magic bullshit
Explain

>>144681084
The cancer meta will always remain the same.
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Is being a dragon viable for anything?
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Post the weapon you most loved in the entire souls series

No matter how flashy some of my favorite weapons in the other games get, they'll never beat the DS1 halberd. I loved this monster
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>>144681084
>no parry or hornet nerfs
its going to be the same bullshit, who even uses estoc and dorksword right now
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>>144680962
>>144680930
thats not what i meant, i mean like a weapon art being able to be used with 1 FP left. im wondering if this change is changing that to remove that. like being able to use the profaned greatsword weapon art with 1 FP for the full effect
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>>144680872
Don't be shit
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>>144681084
>it'll just be some superficial, minor thing

longswords, rapiers, and cucktanas aren't being touched
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>>144680972
>sorcery is now viable
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>>144681164
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>>144680872

Bring the most overpowered fucking build and equipment you can get your hands on. Have no shame and show no mercy, because surely none will be shown to you.

Also I hear hornet ring parrying is pretty effective. Depends what level you're playing at.
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>>144681084
I don't know, seems only thrusting swords and twinblades will get significant nerfs.

Nerfs to curved swords, washing pole seem too poorly worded to be sure, unless there's something I'm missing about them.

Better arrow stock is what matters.
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>>144681139
i'd go mail breaker because it look better imho

but to be honest a heavy main weapon will always outdamages a tiny one on riposte since they nerfed crit damages from the rapier and dagger classes from ds1
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>>144680946
ps4, winged twin axes, neeeeed, high wall, pass: axes
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>>144681164
Powerstanced dual wield UGS

That or the Sunlight Straight Sword
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Faith, magic, pyromancy, and dark magic.

Rank them best to worst
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>>144680775
Okay, I'm satisfied with this for now.

Thanks for the inputs, bro.
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>During online multiplayer: During the invasion of a Dark Phantom, the host will no longer be separated from his area.
>During online multiplayer: A dark phantom can no longer be forcibly brought back in some maps.
what does this even mean?
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>>144680508
first area in archdragon peak, before the wyvern. Another advantage is that it is small therefore you never have too look for the host for long, and it has a lot of narrow corridor to fight on
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>>144681313
for 50SL +4 I think it's fine to use mail breaker with hornet
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>>144681392
That's good.
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>>144680972
>Farron Flashsword is cool but it might as well be a butter knife
lmao, it's literally the best sorcery in the game
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>>144681220
Pure sorcery has never been viable outside of one shot cheese (and no one cares about DaS2).
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>>144680872
run until you can one shot a strangler

if you cant one shot Something change build
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>>144680937
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>>144681108
>mfw Crystal chime makes the distinction unnecessary
Bite me
>>144681220
I'm doing pretty good. I'm STR/INT/FTH, sure, but I've been putting the work into actually using my magic.
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>>144681406
you could glitch bosses by invading/putting your sign down then passing through when it said "XXX another world as a XXX" The boss either wouldn't activate when you entered it in your world or you couldn't enter but phantoms could.
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So what exactly is the Deep, and how is it different from standard Darkness?
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>>144680872
>have two simple and two blessed or a blessed and chime
>apprach them with a large swing hyperarmor weapon
>try to hit any of them, preferably host
>back away into enemies, most are too much of pussies to follow
>regenerate everything
>keep doing this until host is nearly out of estus
>he'll either suicide or disconnect

Good job wasting half an hour of your and their time. Alternatively, just use hornet, if you get a parry on the host, you win.
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>>144681190
>who even uses estoc and dorksword right now

they're both insanely good as offhand weapons, but i suppose the fewer people who know about this the better. estoc/rapier is better for leo ring builds, danksword is better for strength builds.

putting an estoc in your offhand while using a spear for example will immediately take you from being parry bait to being essentially unparriable. also the estoc is pretty popular among pyros for its low stat requirements.
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>>144681467
Magic was fun in ds2 tho
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>>144681149
>>144681149
reeee look at the host's hp, he was 1 hit away from death before the clip starts and the invader had already used his spells a few times REEEEEE
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>>144681621
a source of dark different from humanity

its probably cosmic in nature like bloodborne
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>>144680972
I always smile when i see a pure sorcery or heavy sorcery nigger in a FC
they're free estus refill
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>>144681385
>S tier
Pyro
>A tier
Magic
>Shit tier
Faith
>Lmao tier
Dark magic
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>>144681758
Funny thing is that if you invert this, you almost get DaS2 on release.
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>>144681385
probably

Pyro > Magic > Dark Magic > Faith
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>>144681317
they're shit, you'll be happier without them. worse than drang hammers, and that's saying something.
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>>144681462
>bullying a Hodrick cosplayer
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>>144681825
Buy pyro was OP too because of retarded Flame Swathe
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>>144681718
Which was negated by DaS2 not being fun.

The only game that gets magic right is DD.
>>
Post videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQbVNi6zeZo
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So I made a low level mage invasion character and it sucks dicks. Now I'm upset and I want to tear some PvE goers' assholes apart.

What is the best route for such rapings? Raw ASS? Buffed sellswords?
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>>144681928
Magic is shit. Technically, he's bullying me.
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>>144681710
what do you mean by makes you essentially unparriable? is there some difference with offhand estoc vs other rapiers or weapons in the offhand?
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>>144681970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHPGO_MMHu8
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>>144681963
I disagree, I had a magic only character in DS2 and it was incredibly fun.
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>>144681462
>ever using a greatsword

he deserved it tbqh.
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>>144681970
OC :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxYq7cc-ehQ
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>>144681963
ds2 was fun though
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>>144681728
>getting hit by magic is bullshit
>host is clearly getting rek'd
>panics like a bitch and decides to hornet backstab fish and wakeup WoG
>b-but the red is a cheesing faggot

>presses L2 once when walking up to the host
>spam

>presses L2 once when he misses his spell and realizes the host is going for a running attack
>spam
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>>144681963
Dragon's Dogma magic isn't any better, the spells are flashier and that's it.
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>>144681998
Derpived
RAW ASS+2
SL20
27 vig
12 faith
10 everything else
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>>144682000
>Magic is shit
>casting CSS in duel
>casting locked CSS in duel
anon pls
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>>144682114
They also took like 30 seconds or more to cast and you can easily get hit out of it which the webm fails to show
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>>144681970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5iJWC_fa_Y
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>>144682137
>Magic is shit
it was a sarcastic remark. you should have gotten it because i literally posted a webm of magic winning a duel with certain ease
>casting CSS in duel
it was safe to cast anyway, I wanted him to get near me for the whiff punishes
>locked
ye, mb
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Did they fix the covenants yet?
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>>144682352
Did they make poise not function as intended yet?
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>There are people who ACTUALLY invade people's worlds without their permission.
Why would people be so rude when they could help others beat bosses?
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Guys

Guys I have a crazy theory

What is Seath was a female dragon and Gwyn fathered both Priscilla and Yorshka?

Hear me out

Yorshka doesn't appear to be less dragon than Priscilla, she's got the tail and facial scales, so it's more reasonable to assume they've the same parentage rather than being mother/daughter

And Yorshka directly alludes to Gwyn being her father

Seath being one of the parents is pretty much guaranteed, but what if Seath wasn't the parent we expected? After all, reptiles doesn't really should outward sexual characteristics, so any dragon being any gender is pretty much 50/50, no?
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>>144682352
I've gotten 8 blue invasions today, and didn't even use the shared account trick. Needless to say, 6 of those, the red just BC out.
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>>144680872

Magic and obscuring ring
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>>144682391
Yes. And I found Gundance lvl 3 rune in BB.
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>>144681963
For once we are in agreement. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed actual spells as much as I did in DD. The only problem from a gameplay point of view is that the actual casting process can get pretty boring, and it's easy to just get up on any sort of ledge and Maelstrom the whole world.

If you could do something like miniaturized versions of spells like Frigor in Dark Souls instead of Soul Arrow Variant 16B, it would be a lot more fun gameplay. There's more than enough setup for Crystal Magic to be more diverse than it is.
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>>144679270
Wait so does this mean that they fucking nerfed the whole 1 fp to use weapon arts shit?

Leave it to from to change something that made it fun to use certain weapons and just leave straight swords as is

FUCK THIS GAME
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>>144682431
People are just mean anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO9BFGHTrC8
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>>144680872
use sorcery
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>>144680416
I imagine that the only reason we could level up by ourselves in DaS was because that chosen undead was the inheritor of the Pigmy's dark soul. But who am I kidding lore is fucked and doesnt matter much.
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>>144682517
>40/40 shitter
Invest in ATT if you wanna spam your shitty META WA
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>>144682459
>
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>>144682016

it's probably comparable to longswords, except it's all thrust so it's perfect for leo ring builds. it's longer than a rapier (but heavier and doesn't have an offhand parry, as shitty as that offhand parry is) and does more damage for a quality build than the irithyl one. Then you've got crystal sage rapier which I believe is only better if you're a sorcery build.

it makes you unparriable because it's extremely fast and gives you two sets of attack speeds to work with. you run at someone and they expect a running R1 and instead you let them whiff and punish them with the estoc pokes, or you R1 a few times which they have the timing down for and roll around but then you hit them with the estoc because it's a faster timing, when they were expecting the slower spear timing.

it's just great for playing around parrying and making you more unpredictable in general, great for roll caching. like i said it's mainly for leo ring builds (great with astora or profaned GS as well for example, or RH halberd), if you're doing more of a strength build you'd probably want dark sword instead or some other longsword.

it just lets you easily mix fast and medium/slow attacks effectively, when you have both out people don't know which one you're going to attack with or in what combination. you can also switch between 1H and 2H, and even hold down Y or Triangle to switch to 2H'ing the estoc/longsword if you want. just makes you really versatile.
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>>144682459
Seath is explicitly referred to as male.
Yoshka is likely adoptive, as is a common trope among japanese media.
Both Gwyn and Seath have been dead for a long ass time.
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>>144682517
>give almost all weapons the exact same movesets
>the only variations are locked behind WA
>people could actually use all of effectively them with simple
>now almost nobody will use them and the meta weapons will be reinforced even further

they can't balance for shit
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>>144682517
Nevermind the fact that the main offender of glitch is the sunlight straight sword...
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>>144681621
Abyss with water idk lol
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>>144682625
>mfw 17 ATT, 45/35 in STR and DEX
you cannot stop me
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>>144681621
the Deep is where Kos(m) dwells
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A shame there is no ring that makes you look like a moundmaker or a red phantom.

I would've loved to see how much chaos you could cause with that.
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>>144682670
>>144682648
>>144682481
>>144682625
>reddit
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are any bosses specifically resistant against fire? I want to make my weapon chaos
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>>144682795
What?
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>>144682670
>Seath is explicitly referred to as male.
But that doesn't really MEAN anything. Seath's appearance doesn't give away any sort of actual gender and the references as male could just be confusion that he didn't give a fuck enough to clear up.
>Yoshka is likely adoptive, as is a common trope among japanese media.
Yorshka is def the child of a dragon tho'.
>Both Gwyn and Seath have been dead for a long ass time.
Not saying either were born recently. Yorshka seems to have been alive at some point while Gwyndolyn was still around, so probably as early as DS1
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>>144682826
the four LORDS OF CINDER maybe
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>>144682660
thanks for explaining. i may try this out
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>>144681621
Gwyndolan's anus
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Where my ashen ones at
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>>144682517
>Magic and Pyro's have to sacrifice estus to use strong skills
>Melee can just spam their strong skills over and over no downsides with a simple infusion
>They fix so now Melee builds have a reason to carry ashtus
>This is somehow unacceptable
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>>144682826
From what I understand, fire and chaos are amazing against standard mobs, but not the best for bosses.
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>>144682114
I mained a Sorcerer in DD. I can guarantee you that magic is much better in DD.

>>144682180
Risk vs Reward. Also there are plenty of ways to increase cast times, such 4 sorcerers casting the same spell, even if one gets knocked out of it, the others will keep intoning. If you get in range and start again, you spell meter will pick back up right where their's is.

>>144682496
Holy Focus bolt is super effective if you need fast attacks.

>>144682094
Not really. Everything was floaty as fuck. The lore made no sense and was half assed. The animations sucked. The buggy hit boxes and crap tier rolls just made everything worse. Guard breaks were not tied to stamina. etc.
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Real unkindled hours
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>>144682921
except aldrish is weak to fire
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>>144682826
Yhorm is completely immune to fire
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I NEED A GUIDE HOW TO MAKE WAIFU ON DS3
AND I NEED IT FAST
HELP
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>Dark Souls 4
>The Deep Rises
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is there any reason to fight these dumdums ever? At all? They're not guarding anything, they all swarm you and spaz like retards at once.
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this 1 FP thing should not affect a pyromancer using a thrall axe as his main weapon much right? the quickstep doesnt consume much FP to begin with
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>>144682625
Try again shiteater I don't play that faggot meta shit
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>>144683161
Step 1
>Gender: male
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