Sokol X Winter Edition
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>Skill Tree Beta Calculator (might be out of date)
http://payday.drakendomain.net/
>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/
>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator (going to be out of date):
http://www.pd2skills.com/
>Skilltree Guide (going to be out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png
>Perk Deck Guide (definitely out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt
>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A
>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/
>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2
>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620
>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair
>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn
>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/
>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
pdg-tan lewds when
First for dank memes
Second for baby sokol
What do you predict will happen thrusday? I predict delayed update, overkill saying bullshit on the forums, tons of stuff glitchy and broken, some stuff flat out not working and overkill apologists praising them everywhere.
Reminder that they aren't removing microtransactions and to not respond to shills claiming otherwise.
>>143919126
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Target Practice: Submachine Gun (smg_100_kills)
And this month's new Monthly Side Job is:
- Old Memories (monthly_rats)
Complete it for your chance at a free Stat Boost or Team Boost mod!
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>weapon skins
>>144094519
>Payday 3
>investing in safes
I want to work-in /pdg/-tan's little butthole
>>144096857
>investing in skins
>6.99 for one heist
do you think biker will come with a heist?
>>144094519
S O U R C E
>http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/357287935540344880/
>all that dicksucking
>>144095104
Confusion once all this shitters realize the Black Market change isn't happening with this update.
Rage once all the scrubs realize they can't remake their builds in the new system.
Total war once Update 101 rolls out and microtransactions are confirmed here to stay.
>game crashes after playing for thirty minutes
>>144100305
>buying DLC at retail prices
>buying DLC
>not knowing you don't need heist DLC to play in someone else's lobby
>engine not good enough to have big maps
>payday will never have microtransactions
>>144102127
>Safes are now free. Payday 2 no longer has microtransactions.
>>144102624
they didnt say that though
>overkill now has full control of the game
>health regeneration was a good idea
>10 heisters werent enough
WE
>>144104074
wuz
WE WUZ HEISTERS AN SHIT
>>144101302
>payday will never have silenced minigun mods.
>>144105259
>Minigun is the type of shit that's usually mounted on helicopters.
>Aka the type of gun that can reduce a human body into gibs and red mist in 5 seconds or less.
>Sub-40 damage.
So crimefest 2015 they fucked up weapon balance and tomorrow they're going to fuck up skill balance?
>>144106338
the skills change is great unlike the weapon rebalance
>>144106512
Fuck you.
>>144106338
Yep. I'd complain that the dumb fucks have never redone the netcode to fix the desync or redone the AI but god knows they'd just make it worse somehow.
>>144106901
? The skills change is amazing idky you're so booty bothered.
Friendly reminder to have your fill of Rogue Dodge or Grinder fun because they are going to be in the shitcan once the beta goes live.
>>144107149
>rogue
>shit after beta goes live
kek
>>144107149
Grinder in beta is still most DW viable perk deck for me.
>>144107979
If overkill nerfed grinder would you die?
>>144107979
You should cool it on the fiber because you're full of shit.
>>144108263
I would switch back to ex-president.
>>144108479
Kill yourself
>>144108592
Lead by example faggot.
>>144108639
Only faggot here is you.
>>144108639
Nigga I'm already dead. How do you expect me to die again?
>>144108479
Fiber cleans out your shit, other way around.
why cant you switch out perk trees in the load out menu for a heist
>>144110557
Because fuck you, that's why.
>>144095406
Why do you think this?
I want to play the game again, but if they bring back microtransactions, I'm done. What makes you think they'd shoot their foot a 2nd time?
>>144110943
>think
It's not an opinion. Microtransactions will still be in the game as of Update 100 according to Almir. Which to be fair could be lie, because Almir said it. But assuming he isn't lying for once and the changes stated in the update 100 video happen as stated, it is not a removal of microtransactions. Just a discontinuation. Also
>What makes you think they'd shoot their foot a 2nd time?
Having played this game since beta and witnessed Overkill go full auto on their own foot a dozen times over.
>>144111604
>Microtransactions will still be in the game as of Update 100 according to Almir.
I still don't understand.
They're going to keep pumping out crates that you need to buy drills for or are you just saying that "because the old microtransactions are still in, even though they're being discontinued, the game still technically has microtransactions"
or are you saying something else?
>>144110943
>bring back microtransactions again
anon, 80% of the DLC are microtransactions
>>144111970
Packs of things are less of a microtransaction and more of a normal transaction imho.
>>144111940
Old safes will still require drills. Drills will still be sold. Microtransactions are still in the game. Plus there is no reason to believe they reboot the drills or implement a new microtransaciton system down the line.
>>144111970
>Microtransaction is a business model where users can purchase virtual goods via micropayments.
>There are a number of different definitions of what constitutes a micropayment. PayPal defines a micropayment as a transaction of less than £5 while Visa defines it as a transaction under 20 Australian dollars.
You could argue the sub 5 dollar packs are microtransactions but it could also be argued they aren't because they offer in-game content rather than virutal goods. Personally I view the DLC jewing as shitty but not microtransactions.
>>144107979
Consider Ex-Pres.
>10 baseline dodge on lbv(+10 from low blow)
>70 baseline armor on lbv(+21 from basic bulletproof)
>broken amounts of regen
>aced bullseye
>swan song
>inspire
>AR reload skills
>basic silent memer and crits
You can get a lot with LBV ex-pres right now, because they forgot to balance it with the vest rebalance a week ago. It gets a fuckton of dodge and a good amount of armor. If specced as mentioned above, you're unstoppable.
>>144113182
>Drills will still be sold
then what's the fucking point of saying the game won't have microtransactions.
fuck em, I was excited, this better not be the case.
>>144113328
the anons probably right they'll still offer drills for old safes and stuff because people will still have them but the reality is that most likely they'll start making you buy the safes from now on but if you happen to get one in a drop you don't need to buy a drill you just got lucky.
Solar is a cuck
>>144113252
Thanks a lot, my friend.
I'll try it out later.
stay back bro
>>144113328
New drills won't have drills and can be opened freely, old safes still need drills that's what i got from it, can't wait to see people rioting on the forums tomorrow, they probably already have a new safe ready for it, probably chains or hoxton if they already have made them
>>144121238
>New drills won't have drills
>>144121238
my flack is that you'll still need to buy drills for old safes.
obviously, making it so old safes open without a drill would make the payday 2 market hiccup, but it needs to happen to wipe the taint off a bit.
>"entering the codes..."
>vault locks
>"DAMMIT, IT DOESN'T WORK, BAIN"
>"Are you sure? Ok, KKK."
errytime
>>144125159
I'm actually going to be upset a little if they release a Diamond Heist remake and the codes can't be wrong even in perfect stealth.
Dumb question, but wasn't there some mod out there that allowed you to make custom skins in goonmod that provided stat bonuses?
I wanna suck trashly's dick desu
>>144128908
Just buy bonuses with gagecoins
>People running around like crack-addled retards on DW and getting downed
Dumpster suit/dodge builds already so these people learn how to actually play instead of relying on dice rolls and getting offended when my no-inspire ass doesn't bother saving them
>Boot the game up for the first time in a week.
>Play through a bit of a heist.
>Alt-F4 out because I can't find a reason why I'm playing.
Welp, RIP. I'd keep it installed for soundtrack updates but those don't happen so I guess I might as well just set it to the dead game storage part of my library.
so how are they going to fuck up skills?
Do I only get Home Invasion 2016 if I buy the wolf pack?
>>144135170
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-bYcYu2zg5Fa_sT9QO2De2Mdoj63Pee_kts0uuRVLGw/edit#gid=0
The new skills are already here
>>144133476
I run dodge and inspire in order to keep my team up and running, specially when people with armor builds think they're fucking invicible and go faaar away and alone fighting for themselves.
>>144096123
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Target Practice: Melee Weapon (melee_35_kills)
- Hector Begs You For Mercy (hector_4_jobs)
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>144132473
I want pd3 to have steam workshop integrated. Imagine community made maps and a better decal system for weapon skins and masks or even mask models. Also actual weapon balancing that isn't car4 dominated. Fuck it add an emphasis to silent-loud heists where you do as much shit silent before going loud and getting out in 2 minutes response time.
Can I use SAM for unlocking achievements that'd give an event drill/drop or will the cheater flag freak out about that?
>>144139765
I just want PD3 to be put on an engine that isn't as shit as Diesel. UE4, preferably.
>>144142526
Mister Lister the Sister Fister sounds like a faggot
oh that's you
>>144143000
Trips don't lie, he must be that guys younger brother
Here's a balance issue I never hear people talk about, loot bags.
Harvest Trustee Money Bag DW
$157,000
FWB Money Bag DW
$7,500
FWB is much more difficult than Harvest Trustee. Aside from just being a longer map with more areas to screw up, harvest Trustee only has 4 guards, so you can effectively remove any chance of the alarm being raised, so you can leisurely stroll aboit.
Cook Off Meth Bag OVK
$1.3 Mil
Lab Rats Meth Bag OVK
$0.65 Mil
Lab Rats is much more tedious. Cook Off you can pump out a bag roughly every 3 minutes solo, even with a team lab rats can take about 6 if everything goes well, that equals about the same cash, but with more effort. Zip lines and headless dozers.
The latter kind of makes sense, but FWB isn't even worth it for the money. Maybe for the gold, but there are easier ways to farm cash. Actually, no, not even for the gold.
>>144145308
hey retard: this is balanced by the job rate. on Cookoff, the contract pay is shit. on Rats, you get a small fortune just for completing it. the 3 meth bags are basically mission bags. All of the extra bags you complete past the requirements are always the same level as the infinite modes.
Same with Bank Job vs FWB. On FWB, you are required to get a certain number of bags. Bags If that's all you get ,the contract pays like 6 mil. Extra bags on top of that get you extra money.
FWB stealth takes about 25 minutes for about 8 mil on DW. The bank job pays less than half that, even if you clean out the deposit boxes, for a minimum of 10 minutes worth of work, and that's if you rush the place and keep the drill running for it's mandatory wait times.
You want to talk about missions with unbalanced loot, Night Club is the fucking worst on that front. Again, you get an alright cash payout for contract, but the mission bags are still just shit value, and there's no guarantee of any bonus bags. So even rush with charges, on DW, you can't even blow the safes so you have a drill, followed by an absurdly long wait for twitch.
Which is a shame, because stealth where you don't have to answer pagers and you can just gradually clear the map isfun
>>144142526
Sounds like somebody got told.
>>144146698
He said Lab Rats, not Rats.
>>144145308
We always bitch about cash being worthless.
>game where CASH IS KING is a forced meme
>cash isn't king
>not even close
>>144146698
>call someone a retard
>spouts retarded reasons for how the game is designed well
Did the overkill employee forget to put their trip back on.
>>144146698
It's more like $5 million over 30 minutes stealth, where harvest trustee(the remarkably easier one, babbys first dw) is rng dependent but usually between $6.5 and $8 over 20 if know how to use the saw.
And it's lab rats, not rats. Reading comprehension is a valuable skill.
And cash really doesn't matter unless you're still climbing infamies, it was just a topic for discussion.
So how is Hitman now that it no longer has armor debuffs?
Old player here
what happened to payday 2
why the fuck does it have stats on skins and weapons and shit
am I playing loot simulator or diablo
is the car still good
>>144146698
>>144149013
>25 minutes to stealth FWB
>over 30 minutes to stealth FWB
>20 minutes to stealth H&T with all deposit boxes
Am I being trolled or is the general populated by shitters now thanks to Almir?
>>144149789
I was going to say the same thing, it takes like 15-20 tops
>>144149640
>is the car-4 still good
Anon...
>>144151189
no
not again
>>144149117
Meh, there's no reason to use it reallyn since akimbo are base weapons and no longer require skills, so hitman just lost it's main selling point
>>144149117
Not grinder or muscle; useless.
>>144151284
>>144149640
High-damage pistols and DMR-kit rifles are the only meme guns now. Shotguns, regular-kitted rifles, sniper rifles, and most SMGs are just fucking awful.
Why is the Piglet so shit ;-;
>>144151358
What? Akimbo still requires skills you retard.
>>144151189
>15-20 tops
Okay now you're just shitting with me.
I stopped playing two years ago. I'm mildly interested in at least playing all the new missions I missed just out of curiosity. Convince me not to play this piece of shit.Please.
>>144152357
I generally solo and get really shit luck with the computers in all fairness
>>144152868
Nothing has changed for the better. Things have only gone down hill. Overkill only knows how to develop downhill.
>>144152028
Takes too long to reload, even with Bloodthirst ace active.
>>144153152
Thanks for the pep talk doc. I'll do my best to avoid reinstalling this shitstain.
>>144153534
Now leave this place. And never return.
Honestly just make the game CoD with heists already, our perks and shit suckass, gun balance sucks ass, but hey Payday has INFINITE enemies like MW2 so what the fuck?
So... is Ex-Presidents good? I find I like it more than Muscle.
I wonder why they didn't announce a new safe to open from Update 100 given all the hullabaloo about the free safe openings.
>>144156907
We literally just got a safe less than a month ago, though.
TOMORROW
>>144161883
Nothing will change.
>>144154971
Can you scroll up, retard?
This >>144113252 guy right here already explained the whole fucking build for it.
the picture with houston's head poking through the door alerting a nearby guard
I don't know what the hell is going on with this update. But all I need to know is do I need to offload the skins I've accumulated on the market before it goes live?
>>144152019
Shotguns are amazing if you spend the skill points on them. Also by DMRs you really just mean the M308, since DMR kits trash the already nerfed ammo pickup rate.
>>144113252
Ex Pres is pretty solid now, but I hate the regen mechanic on it. Gotta take just enough damage to break your armor without damaging your health, which gets to be a problem if you're trying to regen from a previous down. It has more of a Grinder Problem than Grinder itself.
Guess I just have to git gud at an already piss easy game:(
>Running infiltrator
>Pubbies consistently mow down cops before you can get to melee range
>Have to distance yourself from the crew so they wont cuck you out of health
>Always get cloakered because of this
Maybe infiltrator just isn't for me.
>>144176069
Infiltrator's an armourfag's deck. If you're not using an ICTV then you should consider something else. Remember that it's for close quarters so if you're doing Bomb: Forest or the train heist then consider a different deck.
Damage reduction is what makes it great. Lets your armour last a heck of a lot longer and gives you a better chance of making it to cover if it breaks in a bad spot. Don't treat your heal as your primary mean of survival, it's a way of recovering the health you lose when your armour breaks and you take some hits before making it to cover. Use the buzzer, it will be your new best friend unless you put some points into the melee skills.
Stop acting like you're fucking invincible, that's what Maniac is for.
When is the update guys?
>>144176978
Infiltrator works alright with a Frenzy LBV. The risk is very high and the "reward" is very low, but it's very satisfying to pull off.
>>144178810
I think it'll be fairly late, sorry.
So I left before goat heist, what's the meta with the new skill tree?
>>144178921
Frenzy and Infiltrator go so damn well together. Having an easy source of healing while guarantying Berserker is always active is fucking fantastic.
>>144179843
dodge silent memer with an lmg and ex-president
What will happen, if i change car rof and try to join pub?
>>144180839
You should be fine
>>144180839
It would probably be okish, they'd see it shooting at the same rate of fire. They'd just also see cops you kill without "shooting" i'd imagine but considering the desync that can take place in a normal game it wouldn't be anything noticeable.
>>144181070
Sydney codes when
>>144179843
Bow with explosive rounds
Babby Deagle with silencer
Sb/lb
Frenzy/berserker
Lbv
Ex pres
>>144181234
Never if you keep asking.
>>144181328
Literally the 1st time
>>144181375
Had a guy spamming me about it, and some people asked in the last thread as well.
>>144181440
I'm getting irritated with seeing it too, you should ban the next person to ask.
>>144181440
Fede here, DLC pls
>>144181440
Oi you mentally ill degenerate, gimme some free shit.
>>144181440
Can you override the stupid looking 'kawaii' off the dozer mask? The bobblehead looks atrocious for what it costs, doesn't capture the bulkiness and threat at all.
Do you give out codes just for the mask?
>>144181440
Give us the fucking codes you cuck
>>144182342
>>144183374
This is a worryingly accurate summary of the community at times. :x
>>144183251
There are mods that change it on Last_Bullet, there's also a few modders out there that would probably make a mod for you if you ask them.
>>144183795
Hey Trashly: Why do you keep giving out codes to these people who flame you, call you a shill, give you shit for reporting a DLC unlocker, etc. etc.
Do you ever wonder if you've ever given a code to an Anon whose talked shit about you?
>>144181440
Please tell me you warned Overkill that they failed to communicate how the 2nd gen safe system is going to function, and that they should expect a riot.
>>144184653
Uh probably because i don't take anything anyone says on 4chan seriously, kindda the point of the site. I don't really care what people say about me or my lifestyle ect.
It's just nice to occasionally do nice things for people like events, contests or just hand out free shit. The only thing i don't understand is why people think i'd give a shit when they try to insult me over being trans. I've no idea why they'd think i'd care.
>>144184653
He's like a customer service representative, they have to take shit, remain professional, and do their job regardless of how people talk to them. The most they can do is refuse service.
>>144184753
I have a bit, at the risk of sounding like Almir post crimefest, i'm a bit pissed off with some of the gaming sites using click bait in the title.
They keep using titles like "Microtransactions are gone from payday 2!" As the title yet they state this isn't true in the actual article itself.
I get that journalism, you're always gonna go for the click bait views when you can, but still it's really misleading.
I've tried explaining it to the few people who spoke to me about it but theres not much we can do about the people who just don't read stuff properly because well.. they don't read stuff. So explaining it to those people would be wasted effort, kindda an unavoidable minor bomb sadly.
>>144180894
>>144181070
What will happen if i mod maximum ammo
and ammo pickup rate?
>>144184753
Wait a sec, how is it going to function?
I got it like this.
The safes that dropped before Update 100 still need drills.
The ones that drop after U100 are free to open.
Or is it that only new safe sets are free and the unretired pre-100 safes still drop and need drills?
>>144187059
All old safes will NOT drop after today's update. You can still buy a drill to open them.
We can't make it so the safes before the update are free to open as that would be a huge fuck you to anyone who bought a drill and would ruin the value of the skins.
Any NEW safe will be free to open, you can sell or trade it like always. As far as i know, Overkill have no intentions to add a way to buy safes. They will be only available via drops.
>>144186876
Uh you'd have more ammo? I doubt you'd get marked for cheating by the system. It would be classed as cheating in terms of what we decided is/isn't cheating.
As long as you don't use it just to unlock everything though Overkill don't mind. It's just when you're doing stuff that devalues achievements/masks and other locked behind hard work items.
If you wanna float around, spawn nuke bags everywhere and make every cop dance. Go for it, just don't be a cock and ruin other peoples games or unlock stuff thats supposed to be behind hard work.
>>144136219
>No Endurance
What in the fuck?
>>144187284
Didn't Almir already say that only new safes are free to open with his "The only difference is now you open [the new Safes] for free"?
If that's the case, he already communicated properly to me.
If the steam community gets their panties twisted it's entirely their fault for being retarded and not knowing how sentence context works.
>>144187820
You're correct but still, a shit storm is a shit storm if or not they're right for having said shit storm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuDjcobIGC0The song mixed here sounds alot better than the original
LISTEN UP
THIS IS A ROBBERY
GOTTA GET A GRIP
>throw molotovs into escape
>don't actually get into the escape until everybody's res'd
Fuck pubs.
All of them are retarded. Especially this host.
So many heists failed because somebody decides to stay out of the box while they try to tank all the cops trying to res someone. FUCK YOU.
>>144192348
This is why I hate Aftershock.
Half the pubs are too retarded to get in the fucking truck, and you can't be in the truck if you're dead.
>>144187987
Too busy and rambling. Original still reigning supreme.
When is Update 100 happening?
>>144199838
the same time the updates have been happening for years
>>144199838
Soon, fellow heister
>>144199838
It's delayed another week. Overkill's spent the entire week drinking and partying because they don't have bosses anymore.
>>144200063
I always assumed they were drunk during updates, because of the spelling and minor fixes they all need.
>tfw crimefst 2 safes value slowly rising
oh shit update is here restart steam
>>144202509
>being tricky
>>144202509
>>144200063
The only thing worse than a developer under their publisher's thumb is a developer that isn't
>>144202539
It's about time we start getting trickyI would appreciate some of that black dad posting too
>That stilted trailer dialogue
I get that they were trying to have a little bantz between crew members, but it just came off as Dallas not really liking Dragan all that much.
>Judge can't benefit from shotgun skills
>>144203616
since when
>>144203616
you what?
>>144203616
>there will never be a primary shotgun as good as the judge
>there will never be akimbo judges
Is there ever a reason to use the Sega (Genesis) -12 over the AA-12?
>>144204397
Is there ever a reason to use either if you aren't a massive shitter?No.
>>144204579
fug
Shotgun primary buffs when?
>>144204741
>shotgun primary buffs
>buffs
Shit nigger, have you even tried the sniper raven?
> New heist: 505 Escape
Okay gang, we have to get in there, get the franchise and get out. Easy, quick and clean.
>>144204985
>121 damage with flechettes
>wide spread on hipfire for deleting roomfuls of cops, narrow spread on ADS for killing specials
>HE Judge one shots shields out to medium-long range
What a time to be alive
>>144204397
No, but you shouldn't really be using the AA12 anyway. What would be great is if they added a short barrel mod and no stock mod, so that it could benefit from LB. As of right now though, its worse than the AA12 in every way except fire rate, which itself is more a hindrance because of how often you have to reload.
>>144205276
>New heist: Blame your own jewery on 505 and then try to trick people into thinking you're removing microtransactions when you aren't.
Okay gang, those dumbfuck goys aren't buying as much DLC as we want. Time to trick them back onto our side.
Post Sydney loods.
>"Gentlemen, shilling in /pdg/ is about to commence. We need to swing a few posters the right way. You can help."
>>144205729
gross
>>144188498
is the new skill tree out today lads?
>>144207517
Not yet, but it's today.
>>144205729
>>144207295
Post Sydney original concept art
>>144192348
>throw molotovs into escape
for what purpose?
>>144210218
It's along the same lines as planking. Stupid shit kids do because they find it funny but otherwise totally pointless.
>>144207761
Do we have any idea when?
>>144211469
"later today"
6 gb patch? What the fuck
>>144211469
NOW
>>144211469
like right fucking now
>>144211068
I do that like some kind of celebration.
>>144211068
>It's along the same lines as planking.
Do you eat shit?
So what happens with this update?
>>144211946
They changed how the packing system works so it should update faster than older updates.
>>144212715
Oh hai Ashley
When patch notes page goes online anyway?
>>144212518
Free safes.
Skill tree beta no longer in beta.
Poorfag grenades.
OH SHIT UPDATE NOW GET HY-
>6.4 GB
>>144212810
Don't know sorry but if you have any specific questions i'll answer what i can. Just don't ask "whats changed?" because it's a lot.
>>144213114
Is there anything we should know about the update that we don't already know? Anything besides skill trees, new safes, and free grenades?
>>144213114
What hasn't changed?
>>144213342
A few bug fixes, though there might be some new bugs, there always is :x
Overkill have been trying not to do "surprises" too much and tried to be as transparent as possible recently. There has been some changes that beta uses won't have seen yet to the skills.
>>144213342
Inspire was nerfed, it's not 100% chance but only once every 20 seconds. They also nerfed the automatic use for the cupcake meds, it now only works once every 20 seconds. Doesn't work with swan song either.
>>144213725
>Inspire was nerfed, it's not 100% chance but only once every 20 seconds
ded gaem
>>144213725
>inspire was nerfed
Halleluyah
This fucking skill was broken from day 1 and when playing PD:TH you really notice the difference in difficulty.
>>144213802
I mean to say "it's now* 100%"
>>144213725
Just make Inspire a ranged version of normal interaction reviving.
IE: Hold Interact on downed ally for 1.5 seconds from up to 7 meters away to revive.
And string all the Inspire lines together into one quick jumbled mess of inspirational cursing.
>>144213114
Any other change to guns besides the ones that happened in the beta?
>>144214039
Maybe if everyone has inspire but there are much better skills to go for now. Pistols and shotguns are amazing if you focus on them and most of the top tier skills are extremely useful, equally so compared to inspire.
Oh and sentries got nerfed from 6 to 4 with tower defense aced.
>>144214169
I don't think so no, i know a lot will feel the game is too easy now but as far as i know the next thing to focus on will be looking at changing the difficulties.
Possibilities might be adding a difficulty between overkill and deathwish then buffing the difficulty of deathwish. It's all discussion at the moment but i think that's the next thing they want to look at.
>no new guns
>no new masks
I would have liked something more tangible I guess but the skills looks alright
I would have liked for them TO FUCKING FIX THE HITBOXES THAT HAVE BEEN BROKEN SINCE LAUNCH
THAT CAN BE FIXED EASILY BUT THEYH AVENT FUCKING FIXED RE
>>144214623
My boss joakim told me that he's going to be heavily pushing for having arms and leg boxes added. I can't promise it will happen but i can say its certainly being discussed.
Nice, I thought they would just keep the WIP skill icons. Having low expectations is good.
>>144214802
it doesnt need to be discussed
it's literally a non issue they have a mod that fixes it already
they don't have to do anyhting more than ctrl c ctrl v
tell joakim he's a fucking retard for not just doing it and getting the approval of morons
Just a heads up, in tomorrows stream we will be giving out a few lootbag and alienware mask codes!
Anyone still have that script that let you drop keycards?
>second wind
>>144149117
The armor is simply not enough; you have to run from cover to cover to make it safely at all times. Its not like maniac or armorer and such, where you can actually stay a little in a firefight on dw. If you like the playstyle, you could try it, but I wouldn't rely on it too much, netcode and similar usually fucks you up, since cops can shoot you while they dont even see you. Plus, saving a second on having to stay in cover is usually redundant since you reload in cover most of the time too, which takes 2,5 secs average.
If it had the armor break invincibility from armorer, it'd be synergistic and awesome, but it doesnt, so it sucks.
>>144153902
I've been coming here off and on over the years to laugh at the state of the game. You can't stop me.
>Microtransactions won't actually be removed.
>All the last minute skill tree tweaks are nerfs.
>6.4 gigabites.
I am going to love the backblast from this one once the idiots on the steam forums find out they got rused.
>>144216167
they weren't rused they just don't know how to read
>>144216236
>Implying you Overshills weren't spinning this as microtransactions being removed.
how are microtransactions not actually being removed? I don't understand
>>144216342
The old safes will remain but they will no longer be dropped. Any safe is finite now and all future safes can be opened for free.
>>144216479
I don't see then why people are being upset about it. Do they really expect overshill to just completely fuck over all the players that had purchased safes/drills before? Seems completely unreasonable.
>>144216680
If you were stupid enough to buy a drill you deserve to get fucked over.
>>144213725
Waaaaait a fucking second they did what with inspire?
>>144213114
trashly im new to the general who are you and why do you have a trip
>>144216680
I havn't had any major complaints from people about that truly. There's always THAT guy, but generally speaking most seem to have enough awareness of why they had to keep the old safes in the old system.
Like i said, just sad that all the news articles used click bait like "Payday 2 removes micro transactions."
>>144216790
I'm not disagreeing with you, but from any sort of logical business standpoint that makes no sense.
>>144216864
Trashly is a shill that gets paid to shit up this thread and try and bribe people into defending Overkill.
>>144216479
oy oy
can you ask them why the update is 6.4gb
the skills and a hideous ps2 teir model aren't enough to be 6.4gb
>>144216946
If i wanted to shill why would i come to 4chan? Seriously there's 70 unique posters in 1 thread, that's fuck all.
>>144216845
100% chance to get someone up, only works once every 20 seconds.
>We own PAYDAY again
>The PAYDAY franchise is ours again
what did he mean by this
i haven't played2pay2day in like a week
>>144217085
I don't know, they have a new packing system so maybe some of it is that? Not a coder myself so i can't say either way but update 100 and other updates after 100 SHOULD update a lot faster. For me it only took 1-2min with the whole unpacking stuff that usually takes around 15-20min.
>>144217202
It means they're firing their bosses so they can be lazier and blame all the stupid shit they did on them.
>>144217132
RIP ez deathwish I have a feeling that I'll be playing on pre 100 patch game
>>144215461
Any idea when exactly? I've been wanting loot bag ever since I found out about the Red/Black colour combination in it.
>>144217286
yeah well it don't
on a related note when will more stuff about those two cunts we stole for wick come out
I want more keanu-lite
he's a cute
>>144217486
5-6 CEST.
>>144217451
nice sad frog facebook meme faggot
>>144217753
Fuck I hope my computer will be okay by then; it's been in the shop for like a week. Thanks.
>>144218058
nice anime cancer meme faggot
>>144218058
nice cawaii animu gril friend
>>144218196
Thanks for the (You)
>>144218260
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So what exactly did they change with the skills? anything radical? I hope grinder is still ok
I hope they removed technician
RIP muh build...
Time to start over I guess.
ICTV so slow now.
>>144218495
With inspire nerfed, you may actually have to put points into nerves of steel or whatever the 50% interact damage resist is. Team nearly gets wiped by two dozers, it's gonna be a lot harder to recover.
But where is the fucking changelog?
Anyone crashing whenever they go to the inventory?
I removed IPHLPAPI.dll so it shouldn't be BLT Hook causing it.
>>144218723
I don't think the ICTV can make the jump on Undercover or Watchdogs Day 1 now.
Not that people play those heists...
>100% chance to get someone up, only works once every 20 seconds.
>only works once every 20 seconds.
>once every 20 seconds.
>every 20 seconds.
>20 S E C O N D S
holy shit is this true can anyone confirm this?I really hope I'm getting rused
