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post your loadout edition

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS (embed)
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz (embed)
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: trade.tf | bazaar.tf | backpack.tf | tf2outpost.com
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: trade.tf | backpack.tf
Scrapbanking: scrapbank.me | scrapwh.com | scrap.tf
Betting: saloon.tf

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ (embed) | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB (embed)
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W (embed)

List of people looking to queue up together for matchmaking:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/htmlview
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>>143891635
cucked by 2 seconds
tragic
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i like this thread more
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>>143891825
i think its still better than gay sniper edition
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i like the gay thread more.
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i dont
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Ignore this dudes mspaint agenda
>>143891725
>>143891725
>>143891725
>>143891725
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Here`s my favorite weapons list

Rocket
Scatter
Knife

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>>143892005
owned
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>>143892005
lol
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This is not as gay so i'll use this.
What's up with the escape plan boys?
>other thread got 404'd
HA
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>>143892005
xdd lamo rekt
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>>143892005
>>143891825
Who's the cucked one now fuckboi?
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rip gay thread
i liked it more tbhh
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im in the op!!
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no homosex aloud
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me too!
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>>143892190
me too :o)
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look at me im the op now
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haha oh wow I've really been playing ONLY on dustbowl for the past 3 years
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>>143891672
why would you post a loadout you made in loadout.tf for this
it's not even good
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>>143891635
>mfw im in a corner

at least im next to my tf2gfu
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⇉⇉⇉Your face


⇇⇇⇇ My cock
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Hey

buy some stuff

http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/6003
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>>143891635
who are these people
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wtb tf2g crafted carousers capotain pm me offer
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AAAAAAH MY HATRED OF HEAVIES GROWS EXPONENTIALLY WITH EACH PASSING DAY
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>>143892834
mostly whos who don't have to share their id's
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id/epicgirl1998
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id/my
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am I me?
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hey tf2g ...

how are you holding up?
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>being american
lmao
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my tf2gfu is american
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/BasedViva
http://steamcommunity.com/id/thesaucey
http://steamcommunity.com/id/chipublib/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ryuke
http://steamcommunity.com/id/nonon_jakuzure_
http://steamcommunity.com/id/epicgirl1998
http://steamcommunity.com/id/26dollar
http://steamcommunity.com/id/superNEAT
http://steamcommunity.com/id/chromeisbestmetal
http://steamcommunity.com/id/basketballin
http://steamcommunity.com/id/liltiptop
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ophemancer
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ohthecasino
http://steamcommunity.com/id/motions_of_ordinary_life
http://steamcommunity.com/id/EngIo
http://steamcommunity.com/id/geel9
http://steamcommunity.com/id/CodyAsterisk
http://steamcommunity.com/id/shortstopbaddie
http://steamcommunity.com/id/dispellado
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Drawings
http://steamcommunity.com/id/D310S
http://steamcommunity.com/id/flurryheart
http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagicalMaximilian
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Q-Jo
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Blacky_chan
http://steamcommunity.com/id/690061
http://steamcommunity.com/id/viridine
http://steamcommunity.com/id/aidabutt
http://steamcommunity.com/id/videogamesvideogames
http://steamcommunity.com/id/PintoDog
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ry4ntk
http://steamcommunity.com/id/cn_
http://steamcommunity.com/id/yuunu
http://steamcommunity.com/id/shucke
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Owlspeak
http://steamcommunity.com/id/fsidu
http://steamcommunity.com/id/plur
http://steamcommunity.com/id/vibri94
http://steamcommunity.com/id/haflef
http://steamcommunity.com/id/rendoski
http://steamcommunity.com/id/xenosxt
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Differentesque
http://steamcommunity.com/id/XionxanG
http://steamcommunity.com/id/qnqnx
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Yellowquiet
http://steamcommunity.com/id/wwxxz
http://steamcommunity.com/id/prayin_2_sanic_4_da_speed_i_need
http://steamcommunity.com/id/sopsisops
http://steamcommunity.com/id/matchstickman
http://steamcommunity.com/id/qror
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>>143893391
Life is beautiful

I thought it was gonna be a bad day cause Bon Jovi started playing on the radio again, but a co-worker came through with a slice of cake. It's another blessed and Based day
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>>143893553
i'll never ever be on these lists
i hate myslef
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>>143893553
still not on the list
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/sandvitch
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>return to computer
>see from the exclamation mark that I got a reply
>click on tab
>it's >>143889867
:(
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>>143893823
he's right y'know
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>>143893553
I'm not on the list and I don't expect ever to since I actually stay anonymous unless It's somehow relevant I namefag
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my tf2gfu is right
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>>143894007
what a fag
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>>143893553
added everyone there
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>>143894597
what about me
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>>143894597
not me
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>>143894597
i'm not there
please add me anyway
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>>143894727
no1 like u human
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>>143894938
mfw i CRY
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>>143894985
shut up attention whore

your shitposting is a detriment to this general, you previously said that your father recorded you and your family with cameras hidden throughout your home, no wonder you're so fucked up
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do NOT bully human
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Post /tf2g/ charts NOW
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>>143895206
he is a shitposter that no one likes except for other shitposters or degenerates

the mods need to ban him
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>>143895271
About damn time
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youre shitposter and no one likes you except for other shitposters or degenerates

the mods need to ban you
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>>143895461
Playing devil's advocate here, you are a Portuguese gay furry dude, you are not allowed to call anyone a shitposter or a degenerate.
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>>143895561
i am brazilian

why i am not allowed to call anyone those things
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>>143895359
t. mad that human is more popular and widely liked and that >he :x has a bf
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>>143895561
Couldn't have said so better myself. I prolly could, but you did just fine
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i want to PROTECT human
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i want to hug___ human
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I want to maintain my anonymity for the sake of unbiased discussion
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^ gay
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^ meant for v
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>>143895676
Viva is cool
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im meant for my tf2gfu
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>>143895620
Because that would make you a hypocrite my Brazilian friend.
>>143895676
Thanks buddy.
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ppost ttf2
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>>143896434
noun, plural hypocrisies.

1.
a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.

2.
a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.

3.
an act or instance of hypocrisy.


i dont think i ever said i wasnt a degenerate or a shitposter
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has anyone ever used these for the set bonuses?
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it's cool to be a furry!

>>143896670
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>>143897203
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>old tf2 player now has 29k viewers on twitch

epic
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>>143897535
>be washed up tf2 player that never made it big
>start streaming overwatch before everyone else has a chance to
>people are surprised that you get popular

you're a retard
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>>143897667
you're more retarded for making that post congrats
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>>143897813
>uh... u r retard

n1 mate

seagull fangay spotted
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>>143897886
>make post based on false premise because you don't understand things concluding with an insult
it's definitely you mate, not me
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>>143897667
he never made it big or he never achieved anything?
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australliums are magic in pubs
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>>143897667
also he was good? I mean he have shit ton of viewers, more than, maybe any other game streams that i have seen.

>>143898373
When you see an unusual rocket launcher with isotope effect...
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>>143898225
>implying seagull was top tier
n1 mate, try again
>>143898309
not really, he was a low tier invite soldier
>>143898523
no
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>>143898696

> 2 championships
> 3 second place finishes
> low tier invite soldier

?????
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>>143898373
The best they'd get from me it's a panic pop if a Homie just died
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>>143898373
yes medics flock to you from nowhere when you have them
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Remember that auto-rejoin script?

Well I expanded a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE4D0gf1oWA

I can now bot as (almost) any amount of players. Like 4 or more snipers with perfect aimbot on.

please like me
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>>143899441
fuck off
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>>143898816
>3 second place finishes

for invite thats bad, considering invite is small
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>>143899665

if you're on the second best team out of 8 teams that's bad?

are you dumb?
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>>143899441
fuck off cheating cunt
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>>143899441
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198307440090
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>>143899441
i already like you
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>>143899842
yeah it is, considering invite is a joke and there are only a couple good teams
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>>143901338
>only a couple of good teams
yeah and he came 2nd
get the flock outta here
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>>143901915
are you dumb

if there are 3 good teams getting 2nd doesn't mean shit

>get the flock outta here

yeah I knew you were a dumbass seagull fanboy
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>>143899441
jesus, that's some next level shit
can you do it with any class?

just think of the potential of this...
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>>143902271

> 8 teams in invite

> 1 good team
> 7 low tier teams

baka
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b-baka senpai
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>>143899441
>please like me
lmao

just talk to bbb, he's a lonely br and he loves you because you're a furry
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>>143899441
lol nobody cares about your videos, maybe you should switch to overwatch retard
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>>143902665
>br
lol
>lonely
maybe
>love
it's more like just a crush
>because you're a furry
it's more than that, silly

now fuck off dotsy
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i like bbbb
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Vivid Plasma or Miami Nights?
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>>143902893
can you not drag me into every little fight you have thanks

i literally do not care about you idk why you think i do
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>>143903182
oh
well you're the only one who publicly showed to not like me (at least at some point) so i assumed it was you. i guess whoever keeps talking shit about me is too much of a pussy to say who they are then
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>>143903624
just fuck off already, i don't like you because you started shit talking me out of the blue when you first started coming to this general
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How about everyone shut the fuck up
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>>143893553
What is this list?
>>
just this one last post

>>143903724
ok but who are you?? and that shit was just a dumb attempt to being funny/relevant don't take it too personally
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>>143903938
Attentionwhores
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How do I became a relevant tf2g again
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>>143904012

Kinda disappointed i didn't see my name on the list. Oh well! Back to it!
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>>143904257
i think you're pretty relevant already
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>>143904257
Get some kid to buy you shit again so you're both popular

Shit, but popular
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>>143904012
>someone posts my id
>this makes me an attentionwhore

explain
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>>143901043
I'm glad you do, honestly

>>143902345
It has a lot of potential. It is still in it's early stages, but fully functional.

>>143902665
bbb is cool from what i've seen
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>>143905901
put on your name you fucking shithead
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>>143905901
nobody likes bbb either
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>>143905901
you and bbb are the two autists that love eachother while everyone else hates them
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>>143906035
>>143906207
shut up i like him
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ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>143898887
>run into based viva in a pub
>destory based viva
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>>143905901
please use a trip so i can block you
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WHENS MATCHMAKING MODE?
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>>143905901
reminder avatarfagging is against the rules
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why would this game be dead if we have more daily players, and twitch viewers, and more active community than half the generals here?
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>>143904329
Who are you, and why do you care about me
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>>143907065
People are thinking Overwatch will just absorb the tf2 playerbase
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>>143907065
i don't think tf2 is dead or dying anytime soon but everything you said in that post is wrong
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>>143907405
twitch viewers are rising actually
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>>143904932
Pretty much the boat I'm in.
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>>143907540
but we still have nowhere near as many viewers as lol, ow, csgo, heartstone, or many other big names
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>>143906768
RIGHT NOW
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>>143907834
even half of csgo's viewership will do wonders for tf2
and its not very unlikely to happen if valve does things right
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pyro mojo fix when?
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>>143908208
Viewer count will increase once matchmaking is here for sure
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>>143909118
The interminable waiting.
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reminder that comp tf2 is boring to watch which means MM will do basically nothing when it comes yo bringing new players
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>>143891635
who can actually name these people based on ms paint heads
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Feels bad
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>>143909328
im a who for sure

only 1 person will probably be able to tell im there

probably
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disco beat down is my favorite unusual effect
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>>143909328
viva, dex, vibri, human, bbb, cody*, and sops are all the ones i can tell
batter's helm scout, voodoo juju demo and nuts & bolts engie i've seen them posting their loadouts but i don't actually know who they are
rest no idea
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Raffle soon
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>>143908723
that would be nice
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>>143909324
>boring to watch
in what way? it's way more interesting to watch than csgo or lol. There's more stuff going on, and more big plays
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>>143910806
soon ?
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>>143909324
i find tf2 way more interesting to watch than dota and csgo and i like to play those games as well
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http://tf2r.com/kovw5nx.html

The raffle was actually now you have all been fooled
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>>143911003
i don't know about lol because i don't care about mobas but i know csgo is way faster and it's easier to understand what's going on
tf2 stalemates in comp are just boring and happen too often

>>143911228
ok
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>>143910806
cool
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>>143911330
>ok
well you posted an opinion and i posted mine
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>>143911516
yeah
that's exactly why i said ok

...
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>>143911330
>easier to understand what's going on
easier to who? both games are really simple to watch and understand. csgo is bomb defusal, and tf2 is control points
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>>143913013
Think he meant it as in CSGO everyone is the same but in TF2 each class has specific abilities, making it harder to understand for someone new
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>>143913326
I'm pretty sure people are used to games when classes by now
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>>143913013
>>143913326
yeah, that. csgo doesn't have 9 different classes even though everyone's gonna be watching just 4 of them and there's a lot of weird concepts that are unusual for fps'
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>>143913541
do people actually watch e-sports for games they don't play or at least know how to play?
I wouldn't have thought people who don't play mobas would watch top level moba games. Maybe I have become out of touch with the kids
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>>143913847
Some people watch CSGO streams just to leech raffles.
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>>143913847
i like to watch HS and dota streams sometimes
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Hey, kids. Hope you've all had a blessed and Based Monday :)
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mmmm yes have a bless & base thursday kids
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>tfw instead of delivering your milk, your milkman rips a guitar solo so amazing it rips a hole in space time and kill your dog (rip Lil' Chizzle)

Post Scouts
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>>143915843
autism
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>>143915843
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i just played a game where i drank the bonk atomic punch and it levelled up to a different rank but a sniper still headshotted me

how does this work
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>>143916440
Maybe he shot the can, too, so you couldn't drink it all
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>>143916440
delay between when you drink and when the effect kicks in
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>>143915843
boy do I know that feel
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>>143916440
i think it counts the uses as soon as you click, not when the effect takes place
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>>143916607
>>143916665

aw shucks

and i would have gotten away with it too
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>143916773

>>143892234
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>>143916773
he's not
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dead
>>
Q

Heroes never die
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is the irc as dead as the thread
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>>143917907
not at all
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>>143915843
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>>143917907
NEETs never leave their keyboard, so they're prolly just too busy watching degenerate shit instead of typing
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>>143917907
it's on and off

but you can start a discussion whenever you want and people usually respond
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>>143917993
>>143917993
>>143917993
For what reason??????
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>>143918156
lol
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>>143915843
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>>143915843
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>>143918359
Make it bigger retard
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>>143918491
RETARD
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>>143918491
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>>143918359
>>143918491
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>>143918657
>white line around the left side
blew it
>>
>Some guy offered you a trade:
>Some guy offered:
>Uncraftable Refined Metal
>Uncraftable Refined Metal
>Uncraftable Reclaimed Metal
>Uncraftable Reclaimed Metal
>For your:
>thing
>Items Now Unavailable For Trade
I feel sorry for the retard who actually accepted that shit.
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>>143919223
the joke is too dumb so i don't feel like fixing it
save this one >>143918673
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>>143919435
>>Uncraftable Reclaimed Metal
?????
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>>143919696
use an uncraftable weapon to smelt into an uncraftable metal
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>>143919696
f2ps don't know that smelting uncraftable weapons (e.g. garbage they got tricked into taking or shit they bought directly from the Mann Co. Store) make the metal uncraftable.

Given that metal's ultimate value is in generating hats out of nothing, uncraftable metal is the epitome of "waste of value".
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>>143920724
You can't smelt uncraftable weapons
They're uncraftable
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>>143920827
smelting is not technically crafting, so its possible to use uncraftable weapons in smelting
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>>143915843
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Huh, what do you know. Feathers actually is pretty cute.
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>>143922258
holy fuck
is feathers a guy??
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>>143922704
twitch DOT tv/owlspeak
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>>143899441
ur irrelevant dude this has been done to death already fuck off skid
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>>143922791
yeah i just checked it, which is why i was confused
now i just heard his voice
how can a man be THIS cute, that's so impressive
>that hair
>that qt smile
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I've been off tf2 for years

Broeselhud is all garbled text and it hasn't been updated since 2014

What's the best clean substitute
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>>143923123
broesel_blue.
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>>143921765
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>>143915843
my fast boys~
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playing solo q in overwatch

i feel dead inside
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>>143924117
also watching seagull play ow instead of b4nny feels so dull

i don't know if i can continue to like this game

i have already deactivated chat because i cant take this moba shitter cancer talk
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>>143924117
god ow is such garbage
it's so braindead that people who stand still and shoot at people get potg
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>>143924483
My friend just linked me this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiMJ-s4T16M
Truly an amazing game we have here.
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>>143924578
that's funny at least
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>>143924578
when a guy with a revolver can shoot down a mech with 5x his own health something's very wrong with the game
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>>143925559
Why does any class have 5x anyone's health?
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Dude, fuck McCree
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>>>/owg/
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>>143922791
what a fucking degenerate
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dude, fuck viva
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>>143925851
What an adorable degenerate*
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>>143924578
to be fair, this shit happens in TF2 as well
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>>143926154
>All those people just walking into the goddamn sentry
How dumb do you have to be?
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>>143926154
tolberone's sentry can reach clear across the map if it was a straight line
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>>143927106
That's dumb. Isn't there also a sniper class in the game, too? Why would you make sightlines like that when you have a sniper class? Why would a sentry have that sort of range?
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stay safe /tf2g/
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*jaywalks*
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I seriously hope that none of you fall for any of the "TF2 is bad" memes.

>"Only Soldier, Scout, Demoman, and Medic are viable in comp!"-meme
Simply not sure, this has only been perpetuated because of non-official comp elitists with gayass rules where the only maps played as CP5 maps and you can't use most weapons in the game.
>"Because Valve isn't constantly tweaking the balance of the game, it's dead!"
This League of Legends mentality needs to stop, TF2 is a terrific game as it is. It isn't perfect, but it's still my favorite game to play since 2008.
>"Valve isn't releasing new weapons all the time anymore, so the game sucks!"-meme
I'm sure if you thought up a good original weapon right now and pitched it in the TF2 Steam forums, it would become a real thing they make. More than likely though, your idea is shit.
>"Pyro sucks and his only role now is babysitting his team and spychecking!"-meme
Pyro still has the same flanking game since day1 and you can airblast rockets/pipes back at your attacker. Pyro ever being too powerful is bad for the game, Pyro is completely fucking fine.
>"Spy sucks and is completely worthless!"-meme
Fantastic in 12v12 attack/defend, the way the game was meant to be played, there's just enough chaos going on that you can get shit done and the enemy team has to be super vigilant at all times or they'll get backstabbed.
>"None of the side-grade equipment are any good!"-meme
I don't even know how to respond to this. Pretty much everything works except for Heavy's alternate miniguns.
>"Magical Mercenary and Balloonicorn are MLP pandering! REEEEEEE"-meme
I think it's funny. I understand that you're disgusted by it if you adamantly hate ponies, but you can only use that stuff during full moons/halloween and can only see the balloonicorn in pyrovision. So whatever.

Finally, just because you're tired of TF2 now after playing it for 8 years doesn't mean it's a bad game.
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>>143927347
don't forget 2 different characters that can trap you in a tight area and m2 your face to win
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@143928121 bait do not reply
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>>143928121
this is a good post
thanks for writing this
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>>143928284
yw, just wanted to get that off my chest because I've been hearing those critiques a lot lately from haters.
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do you guys mind if i shill b4nny for a bit
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>>143928620
i'm not sure what that means
is he talking about how overwatch is full of hard counters or something?
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>>143928787
yeah sorry i put it out of context but this is after a weekend of ow
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>>143928787
Could also be talking about TF2.
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What if Scout's double jump was replaced by unlimited wall-jumps
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>>143929437
lucio go fucking back to /owg/
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>>143929437
worse in almost every situation unless the maps are built around it
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He does not use escape plan
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>>143930493
who? jim carrey? does he play tf2??
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>>143930493
I've used it ever since it was first introduced and called "The Equalizer."

The Disciplinary Action is only good at the beginning of a CP5 round.
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>>143913326
Then explain why overwatch is so popular despite being an even bigger clusterfuck?
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>>143931154
marketing
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>>143931154
It's new.
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>>143931716
what happens when the hype wears off
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post yfw you SMITE
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>>143924483
But that's what makes it so fun.
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>>143932136
I see two scenarios for the future.

Scenario 1: Valve announces Team Fortress 3 (or a port of TF2 and does some big new interesting things with it while keeping our old Directx9 TF2 untouched, basically like the move from CS 1.6-to-CS:Source) for the new Vulkan powered Source2 engine and this kills Overwatch. Nobody except diehard Blizzard fanboys are going to continue playing Overwatch when such a TF3 is here with superior/on-par graphics and deeper gameplay that doesn't rely on casual shit. Again, Overwatch is "winning" right now simply because it's fresh and new. I am playing Overwatch for this reason.

Scenario 2: Valve does nothing and Blizzard continues sating our hunger for new class-based shooter stuff for years to come with new maps / new heroes.
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>>143933057
I'd be playing Overwatch right now because of the new factor if I could buy it with my steam wallet money.

I'd really like the summer content update to happen soon, I want the weapon balances to shake up the killstreak market for me.
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TF2 is only alive because of mannconomy.
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>>143933564
I'm sure it's a troublesome process, but you could do the whole "sell TF2 keys for paypal money" thing.

I sold one of my shittier TF2 unusuals for $40 to my paypal and was able to buy Overwatch from Blizzard's website using paypal.

That or you could suck forty dicks for a dollar each, I guess.
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>>143933847
Actually have about $40 in my paypal account, but I don't like to spend real-world money that actually escaped the system back into a gaming system.
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TF2
>9 classes
>5 are viable
>55% of classes are viable

Overwatch
>21 classes
>6 are viable
>29% of classes are viable

wow never thought I'd say this but Valve is pretty good at balance
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>>143934472
Well, its kind of hard to balance 21 and counting classes for an fps game.
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today was not the day to play tf2
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>>143934563
And you'd think blizz after releasing Death Knight would have learned their lesson.

Valve never released a 10th class... for tf2.
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