Swordman edition
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TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with International Early Access beginning March 29th, and F2P release beginning April 28th.
>Can I play the game now?
International servers open for Early Access on March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.
>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ #1: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895
Early Access FAQ #2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-faq-on-the-latest-announcement/153003
>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645
>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Early Access begins March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.
>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
What do you guys think will be the 3 most played classes?
My guess in no particular order is:
Dragoon
Musketeer
Plague Doctor/Chaplain
>paying for a free game
>paying for a game where the swordie is the only viable class
>Rate my Build
>I'll play with my GF
>What is a Token?
>I have 50 ping, is it good?
>>136015835
i want you on my meme team
>/tosg/ said you needed con
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf08bJFnW7s
BR?
>>136015751
Good build.
>>136015571
good build
>>136015984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHQ52v3gps
>>136015754
>>136015754
>Not supporting developers who made a product that you fully support and enjoy
>>136016019
>>136016015
Good build.
>>136015751
wiz3/ele3
>>136015949
>PvE
>>136015571
Is this game region locked, or do I have to play with beaners and jungle asians?
>>136015984
toucans are scum
>>136015949
CON is mostly for magic damage which you can't mitigate that easily.
Give it to me straight doc. Is Squire kill? Is there any way to develop into it beyond that of a multiclient slave? I want to bring something unique to a party beyond just damage/tanking.
>>136015754
What the fuck. Last I saw of this spic, was pre-release gw2g.
I thought he got lynched by the cartel.
And yet here he fucking is.
>>136016205
>tos
>pvp
lol
>>136015949
I hate watching this videos, I have no idea of what is going on, I mean she has a def buff, but what else? she doesn't show the gear nor the stats, is it just upgraded to ridiculous levels?
Should I even bother asking things about the game this thread or does no one want to help anymore
>>136016994
look into the archive cause your questions are dumb things that have been answered a thousand times
>>136016974
Let the BR and Ruskies fight it out.
>>136016994
Nice build
How many of you are wetbacks and filos?
Is it true that melee is shit compared to ranged?
>Thought ToS would be like Monster Hunter but cuter with tons of big bosses to party up with and defeat
>All the bosses have shit AI and aren't really that fun to fight
>>136015751
Since I'm thinking about those three classes, I can agree with you.
Chaplain is the safest path for me (decent solo and pretty easy to find/get in a party), but Cataphract3/Dragoon can be really fun with his two-handed spear, nice costume and trot. Musk probably even more, except for the most hardest/boring leveling between these options.
>>136017341
Denoptic
>>136017321
Swordman is the worst class in PvE and PvP
>>136016052
>I don't know what's with mmo players that always want features that aren't implemented or simply don't exist
Spiral Knights does it that way.
>I never see this in other genres, like going into the street fighter thread and saying that you would pay if the game allowed you to change the base moves from ryu
Funny you say that because there are fighting games that allow for different move choices at the start. Even sf had it similar with groove select.
>This game has easily among the top 5 most robust class builders out there in the genre's history, and people still come and complain that it ain't enough for them.
The philosophy of being permanently locked to your first choice you make in the game is just very intimidating. I don't want to make a new character and grind the theme park again sometime down the line but stay with my one character throughout my lifetime with the mmo.
>>136016228
Both actually. It is regionlocked but only for asian regions.
Haven't checked 4uncut yet if valvle themself added any regionlock too like they love to do.
>>136017549
Shitter BRs getting BTFO.
>>136017549
BRA7-1L
>>136015751
>not Warlock
r8 my dragoon build:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/eufe03crxw/
![4e3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lLUIP3Q.jpg "4e3[1].jpg")
>>136017549
>tfw 2014 is 2 years ago
>>136017723
Having to commit to your class of choise promotes immersion and pride of the said class. These days if someone says your class sucks cock you can just change it but if you couldn't, you would defend it to death. Also there will be more people choosing different classes since they wont be able to switch midway after reading some min-maxers post on the forums.
>>136018060
amazing
>>136018060
very good
>>136017598
>Denoptic
>>136017970
Any idea if New Zealand sheepfuckers are considered to be in the Asian Region, or would they get put onto the Not-Asian servers?
>>136017640
So should I give up on the dream then?
>>136018214
NZ and AUS can play on iTOS
>>136018060
>Gae Bulg 1
>Serpentine over Dragon Soar
>Double Pay Earn
bad_meme/10
>>136018341
I'm gonna push for Templar. Wish me luck.
Sorceress
Transparent panties
Pubes
>>136018341
>AUS playing on US East
Literally worse than BR ping.
I pity you ausfriends.
>>136018343
I took Serpentine over Dragon Soar for the piercing damage. Gae Bulg was not so great I heard, so I left it at 1. Double Pay Earn was a toss up. I'm not really sure if the other 2 Doppel skills do any decent damage so I just went for the buff.
What are the best classes for controller play?
>>136018183
Not that guy but interesting topic.
I don't mind having to commit but ToS's class system doesn't really promote class pride because of how everyone will have multiple classes at once.
There's a real danger of them nerfing a class too hard and that class and everyone who chose to invest heavily in it becoming useless. It would be less of a problem if the classes had more skills so you'd more likely have an option to respec your points inside the class to the skills that weren't nerfed and still be useful but this isn't the case.
I also somewhat have a problem having to remake a character because a class I used got nerfed but that has more to do with the fact how boring the journey of leveling is in the game. If there wasn't a set track of questing I have to do to level up then I might even be excited to make a new character.
>>136017549
good match
>>136018907
Mordschlag can be used to throw players into other maps, it's fun.
Do I want to put dex on chaplain? If so, how much?
>>136019295
good amount.
>>136018198
>tfw you revive yourself with TP and throw your maimed half-dead body to Denoptic with all your equipment red until you kill it
Never again. Fuck that boss.
>>136018970
Anything besides archer, Since it autoattacks the nearest monster, not the one you're facing. You'll get used to it.
I haven't played much archer though so don't take my word for it.
>>136015402
You mean base classes? I believe PSO2 has exactly what you propose. It's kinda shit, though I suspect ToS would suffer less since it apparently doesn't have races nor anything resembling mags.
Still, I'd rather have different characters that look cute for each class than having a single character that looks cute in one class but shit in another unless I pay to remake the character's appearance every time I change classes.
>>136019616
Even archer is doable, though kb+m does give you better control of your auto attack/single target shots.
>>136018907
Anyone have any experience with Gae Bulg? The damage scaling seems a bit lackluster for a single hit skill at level 5.
>>136019059
I agree with everything you said, and lot's of people including myself have just come to accept the game isn't finished, even after 7 years of development they got sort of rushed to release because they were too slow. There's a massive imbalance problem and even with weekly patches they're introducing new problems with every rank they add, and then with every new content they keep making shit unviable to clear said content and you end up with a subpar character that isn't desired for the high end dungeons and what not.
We can't really do anything about it, we can only hope the game survives long enough to see rank 10, and then proceed to balance everything accordingly, including the leveling process and the myriad of possible builds that can be achieved with their system.
I think their biggest flaw will be balancing for pvp instead of pve, if they start gimping classes because they're OP in the fucking minigame arena or gvg, no one will be happy, you need to have separate effects, or simply ignore the pvp aspect and let it be unbalanced forever to avoid fucking your entire game.
The good thing is you have a wide selection of classes, so even if your rank 3 and 4 got nerfed, your 5+ ranks should be solid. They said they want you to stay viable as long as your highest rank is dedicated to the role you want to perform, as picking a damage class@r8 should help you be a good damage dealer all around, if you pick a support your spells should be strong enough to fight in the r8 content and desired by groups.
There won't be 1 build to rule them all, and yet people want that, I'm sure the community is going to shill certain classes and claim the rest is crap but it will be mostly exaggeration and ignorance from not having experienced neither the content or the classes themselves.
I still don't know what the hell I do on release. Can someone help me... with youtube videos? Most of them have the archive filename on title, so its fucking shit to search specific classes. I already done a research using korean class names, so I'm looking for those "TOS 2016 03 21 XXX" videos. I have interest in Dragoon, Fencer, Musketeer and Warlock on grind.
Also, why does anyone talks about Cannoneer? Are they shit? Saw on archives that they're gimped Musketeers, just want a second opinion or videos. I don't care THAT much for min-max on PVE and/or PVP, just something that doesn't suck on parties and can do a decent/proper solo.
Thanks in advance.
>>136020646
The damage is relatively weak, the debuff is great, the area buff is meh-ish.
>>136020842
this video i posted earlier is a cannoneer rogue ranger
it took 0 points into con
i dont know whats going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf08bJFnW7s
but it looks pretty cute
>>136020686
So wait they're going to fuck with people's skills and classes and not let you reset classes/skills? They can't be serious right?
>>136021014
good video
>>136021047
Welcome to Tree of Savior. Enjoy your stay.
>>136020868
But you need level 5 Gae Bulg to get the debuff attribute right? Kind of a waste of points if so.
>>136021047
you can reset skills by purchasing a skill reset scroll
not classess though
>Faq
>"does this game follow the holy trinity?"
>no answer
too soon to call or no?
>still 8 days to go
>>136020842
>"TOS 2016 03"
You can do a youtube search with that and arrange it based on the upload date and start looking through the videos. Keep an eye out for the channel names so you can filter sort of keep track who posts what class.
>>136021423
Levels extend the duration of the debuff (though very slightly), so it's not completely a waste.
With Gae Bulg level 1 for example it's kinda hard to even make any use of the debuff yourself as by the time you moved and picked your spear back up the debuff was almost gone.
Can someone give me an idea of what gameplay and combat is like? Am I looking at something similar to Diablo or other dungeon crawlers?
>74 posts
>1 poster
Nice """"""community""""""
Why do people say Spirit is useless? Looking at the higher level Wizard spells I don't see how you can stay anywhere close to SP neutral with just SP Pots, does everyone just assume you will always have a Kabalist to feed you or something?
>>136021516
no, there are 4 classes
>>136020842
cannoneer is good but musketeer has better DPS. Musketeer's disadvantage is its weapon restrictions so you are kinda limited on class selections.
Not everyone will tell you but this game has no perfect solo build. You will eventually have to rely on some other class one way or the other.
>>136021516
No
>>136021693
Kill yourself plebbitor.
>>136021047
Afaik they haven't done this, but yeah they should allow you to at least reset skills if they overhaul a certain class, at least that's what they make on other games. I think they will be very greedy about skill resets since they want you to buy the scrolls from the cash shop, but at the same time they don't want the community hating them for being assholes.
I guess there will be some degree of compensation for their mistakes during the process of balancing the game, but the only advice I can give is to avoid the fotms, if they sound too good they're probably going to get gutted in a few months or so (or maybe not, like wiz3 being the same since forever).
>>136021497
oh how kind of them
>>136021743
>Spirit
>Useless
>Believing in iCBT shitposting
>>136020686
Are chronos wanted in ET or only aoe classes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWN77MKzzg
Wtf is this guy doing here to be able to attack so fast?
>>136021920
Look at Chrono c3' and you'll have your answer
How wanted would a Diev3's support be to a party? I'm trying to find a good blend of fun and utility and I'm torn between Cryo C3 and Diev C3 builds.
Or, is Diev3 justified over getting 2 circles and something else?
>>136021669
It's somewhat similar to Diablo. The key differences are the fact that you don't use the mouse to aim in the same way, you usually use either wasd or gamepad to move and most skills are on longish cooldowns.
>>136021859
Is spirit good for a fletcher/cannoneer build? Because fletcher has a lot of 0 cooldown skills so I figured SP would be a problem if you spammed those a lot.
>>136021995
>First comment of the video
Good redditor.
>>136022186
How does that even work though? Rush has a 40sec cooldown doesn't it?
>>136022092
Diev is a good support desu, take it
>>136022023
I know next to nothing about ET only that you get overrun at some point.
I'm not sure how Chrono weighs up against the damage another wiz3 ele3 warlock memebuild could provide.
Attack speed would be useless I guess since swordies aren't that useful.
Is pass that strong?
>>136021995
> What's the meaning of AVI?
YT comment of the day.
>>136022278
SKYLINER 0 CD
>>136022278
It's an unintented interaction. It's going to be fixed. Don't build your character around it.
>>136022632
Oh I didn't know Skyliner had 0 cd now. Wasn't the case back in iCBT.
>Fweeeeeh almost never gets posted anymore
>when it does, nobody replies with "I want to kiss those cheeks"
>Trying to sell an item for 135k
>Market says nope, we're "fixing" the price automatically, the price is now 130k
Thanks North Korea
>ToS and the DLC appear as uninstalled now
What did IMC fuck up this time
lmao u guys still boght the 49$ thing
u dum?
or u no concept of moni?
lamo
>>136022426
Pass is pretty ridiculous, cutting off 25s from every CD in your group is huge. You can almost look at it as basically doubling the raid damage any CD that's under a minute will contribute. Look at memetalist CDs, Electrocute is 33s, Hail is 45s, Frost Cloud is 30s, Theurge is 33s, a single use of Pass basically means those will all instantly be ready again.
Quicken is pretty awesome as well, so is Haste. Reincarnate has its uses, Stop and Slow are niche as fuck and not worth the points, Backmasking is neat but Dimensional Pieces are way too expensive to use it much.
>>136023578
welp
>>136023256
>Try to sell recipe for 200k since no other recipe on the market
>nope, 130k for you
>plus tax
>and time
>Driver problems
Why must things always go the wrong way? I am never buying AMD again.
>>136023625
>concept of moni
What's that, some poorfag meme?
>>136023578
Maybe trying to prevent those negative reviews from the idiots who don't read.
>>136023805
Kanami a cute.
>>136022092
Diev3 is one of the strongest AoE classes in the game against stationary mobs, mobs that you can pull in 1 tight spot or mobs that come to you. It also doubles up as a healer, offensive support and defensive support.
>>136023805
Use windows 10 faggot
>>136023659
Chrono 3 is going to be a pain to level with no damage skills. AA machine I guess?
Is my assumption correct that
cryo3 chrono3 for pvp
and
pyro linker linker chrono 3 pve
?
>>136023835
You're right, the green Play Now button is gone and there's the Steam timer with release date instead
>>136022163
Is there auto attacks still?
>>136023887
Ain't she? I like how you can't see any of her clothes but you immediately know it's her. She's such a good character, too. Well, considering the series she's in.
>>136023948
Tech Support guys gave it back to me with Win8. I am just gonna keep it like this for now. If my drivers fuck up any more and I need to reinstall Windows, I'll Windows10 it.
>>136023769
The worst thing is that I sold the same item for 145k last night, but I was trying to undercut another guy trying to undercut me
can someone post that leveling map guide, pls
>>136021014
I want to do this build but people will make fun of me
>>136024034
But wait a fucking minute, don't people need to first get the game in their libraries in order to buy the DLC? This means people can't buy Early Access anymore.
>>136024113
Yeah, windows 10 install the driver for you, you're using laptop anyway
>>136024286
Follow quest chain :^)
>>136024331
Go to store > tos > dlc
???
>>136024481
I remember people saying they'd get an error when trying to buy the packs and the solution was to first install the game to register it in their accounts
>>136024625
Yeah, who fucking knows. IMC may have just fucked themselves over.
>>136024375
Win8 does it too. But it's never the most up to date ones.
>>136024767
win 10 gave me catalyst 15 automatically, just connect internet and let the botnet does it for you
>>136025174
The windows update code should be the same for both.
>>136024215
Wouldn't IMC want to allow higher prices so they can tax more money out of circulation?
So is there such thing as a viable solo melee or melee/ranged class?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21277888.1321354551.153575.11243a4a55.1f2a5a6575
Would you party with me?inb4 good amazing perfect
>>136026234
Good build
>>136026234
nice build dude
>>136026109
As long as dungeons, party bonuses and high magic/range mobs exist, then no.
>>136026234
Basically a party slut build.
>>136023956
this is your future if going chrono3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4VW4jnjg-s
>>136026890
I'm still not sure if going cryo3 would be better.
>>136027013
Basically a question of CC or better party damage.
>>136026234
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21277888.1321354551.153575.11243a4a55.1f2a5a6575
Would walk home gently.
>>136026234
Nice
W-would you let me party with you?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41232723.15213544.153c455a639a.1a2a3a.152535
>>136027473
I'm more interested in GvG/ET. So going cryo 3 would be the better choice?
>>136026234
I did the same build in kToS >>135945965, it's way better in boosting party damage and dungeon runs than Cryo3, which is for ET.
I'd advise lowering Reincarnate and Backmasking to 1, they don't get much with higher levels.
Just move the points to Slow or Stop, your choice, even Stop 1 is good utility.
>>136026234
you people keep trying this hard to make builds with little to no damage for who knows what reason
I strongly advice against it if it's your first character, you need to farm to make money, there are no pardoner buffs available, and you won't have any decent equipment for a long time.
I'd suggest to go pyro2>linker>chrono 3 at least, the difference from linker 1 to linker 2 isn't that great once you geat a joint pentalty gem.
3 weeks or so after release there will be pardoner shops everywhere that will help you level much more easily shit builds with no damage. Unless you have someone who is dead over heels for you and is willing to carry you push for the pyro 2 thing, if you have a reliable team or social skills then go for cryo 3, a lot of the classes already provide damage but the CC from cryo 3 is invaluable and chonor 3 just makes it better.
>>136027757
cyro3 in ET is nice.
in GvG, people can ran away from the tree if they are not frozen. but you still have other cc skill.
>>136026890
What's a good full chad damage build? I want one of these party sluts to suck my manly DPS dick.
>>136027783
Your char looks super adorable.
>>136027814
I played a lot of icbt2 but all my knowledge is useless after all the changes and I didn't play ktos. As I said above I'm more interested in GvG ET and not dungeons.
>>136027783
even with the upcoming nerfs to joint penalty?
>>136026234
I want to partyin your pussy
>>136027757
Yes, as good as Linker is, even maxed JP with 11 targets (only 8 with Chrono3) isn't much in ET, there's just too many mobs.
Frost Pillar is one of the best CC skills in ET, since it doesn't care how many targets there are.
Cryo3 is a lot better in GvG too, until the enemy PD shows up and your CC is useless.
Then again, there's not a lot of CC skills that bypass Bloodletting, until they nerf it/rework the system.
>>136028338
Linker is still good even with the nerf, especially since Chrono3 has Pass if you need a cd reset.
But the guy said he wanted to focus on GvG and ET, Cryo3 would be better for those.
>>136027649
Fuck no. Going no damage builds is slutty but if you have good utility you are a hot slut at least. Going full retard like that is like a fat disabled slut that or may not be a man that would take whatever cock it can get.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134488f.153545.152545.152a4a75.142635557585.12253345
How does it look for a complete outsider?
>>136021516
1. The real trinity is tank, heal, cc, not dps. Thats a casual WoW thing
2. As far as the meaning of your question, in a way, but not really.
Basically, making a full tank build is useless. Many times its advisable for a swordsman build to take a rank of peltasta for the aoe taunt though, for the purpose of grouping mobs togeather to aoe down for the team. This ability is considered desirable, and having this ability in your swordsman build will make you more popular.
Likewise, all cleric builds will have at least cleric1, and many fit in cleric2, which is considered the optimal healing point. having 'clerics' is required*, but having dedicated healers is, like a dedicated tank, something that will just slow the party down.
*you could probably do with out in some cases but its a hassle
so to summarize. Everyone should be a dps, aoe taunting and decent healing ability in swordie/cleric dps builds, is a popular thing because having these things in your group is nice/required. Pure support tends to fall around a different axis such as the popular cryo3-chrono3 wizard build, that gives you great cc and amazing buffs, and not around 'healer' or 'tank'.
>>136028594
I guess I can go full int with a bit of SP and then use a stat scroll at the end and go con:int.
Atleast that would lessen the suffering.
>>136028778
it sucks
>>136028836
meant con:spr
>>136028820
i don't know about that. when leveling i can see how people won't appreciate extra baggage slowing them down but perhaps specialization is needed in order to pass earth tower.
>let's see how much it is to access earlier ToS
>R$19~
>mfw
>>136028836
>>136029121
Yeah that sounds like a plan, just leave SPR at 100-125, I just got lazy with my stat build there since I was dropping kToS soon after.
So if you go cata3 dragoon, you have to get off your mount to use your dragoon skills right? That kinda ruins the point of being mounted in my opinion.
>>136029321
pretty sure people have gone as far in ET as you can reasonably expect. Arent they running into mobs that just overlevel them now?
>>136029924
>I posted it again
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/qviya1w5f0/
Can I just level STR and DEX with that build while also being useful in a party? Or am I supposed to get some SPR and INT? Had a cleric/priest 3/monk on iCBT, so not sure if it'll work the same.
>>136030026
Fuck off shitposter.
>>136030119
reddit/10
Who cute here?
Do you think there will be any reason to have a tank (peltasda, paladin, etc)in a party?
>>136030392
nice build
>t. Autentist the Autist
>>136028820
I think the tanking comes shit like safety zone, barrier, sterea tofh, stone skin, counter spell and such. Having buttloads of con isn't really the way to go when you still go down in 8 hits instead of 3, while full inmunity abilities negate a shitload of damage or prevent it.
The "tanks" are more like pullers, concentrating mobs in one place and running with them behind, unless they give "tanks" a way to mitigate damage by a huge % including magical shit they're not really meant to stand still and just take hits.
>>136030392
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333bbb.152555.153f4f6a.1f2f31546a
I'm hoping so.
Pls br buy me the game!
>>136029941
Everything in ET is just whatever your highest party memeber's level is, so usually 280. The problem is that the trash in it is very aggressive and can one shot even full on tank builds over range, you either manage to kill them before you run out of safety zone/etc and they kill you, which you won't after the first couple floors, or you have to CC them. That's why Cryo3 is so popular in there, your Ice Tree has no target limitations unlike most other CC and after putting it down you can just spam all your other Cryo skills on the stack to freeze enemies, rendering them unable to attack.
Is the game up yet
>>136030826
try again in 7 days, 2 hours, and 15 minutes.
IM GONNA BUY THE FOUNDERS PACK 1
ILL FUCKING DO IT ANONS
TRY AND TALK ME OUT OF IT!please stop me
>>136031330
Okay.
>>136031330
>not buying all 3
poor fucking shit detected
>>136031330
Wanna go on an adventure, anon?
If I got kidnapped in a dungeon, would you rescue me?
>>136031764
what class are you?
is prison grind still going to be a thing?
>>136031764
depends, what build you running with?
>>136031534
can you play the founder's server if you just purchase exclusive access 3?
>>136031764
You ain't eating up my dungeon run
>>136031534
>wasting money on unnecessary things
get on my level senpai
>>136031813
>>136031852
If I said Hoplite, would you just leave me?
>>136031964
Have fun making 2D porn 2.5D
>>136031764
I would be your Rancelot...
>>136031964
I'm waiting for HTC
>>136031912
Not even if I was trapped in there?
>>136032416
>>136032076
If you got tp, I can figure something out
>>136031330
Just buy pack 2
>>136031330
It's worth over $100, you should get it
thread suddenly died?
How many servers are there? And is there a list somewhere ? I'm looking to play with me friends but we don't like que times
>>136033112
But I bought the 10 dollar pack.
>>136034616
Can you consider it alive? It's only shitposters all the time.Good build.
>>136034839
It's more alive than other shit generals I go to.
>>136034616
Because no one can even attempt build discussion without the epic memers spouting le good build.
>>136035315
>discuss
Just check archive
Is the build of kings good or just another meme?
>>136035315
We don't discuss with leddit.
is anyone on /vg/ going to start their own guild?
>>136035708
technically we don't discuss with anyone
Quick question regarding a few cryo spells.
Was ice blast changed in any meaningful way?
Is it worth it to max Ice Wall when you don't play psycho for party play?
Is snow rolling still good?
>>136035705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTzoobeLmU
>>136036297
You keep posting this outdated shit
>>136036264
>Was ice blast changed in any meaningful way?
STOP
MAKING
ME
REMEMBER
IT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteDTdf0-Dg
>tfw we could have been playing it today if not for BRs
Do BRs get their own server so Humans don't have to deal with them?
>>136035462
>check the archive
There was never any discussion here
the archive is nothing but 'do research :^)'
>>136036695
Nice build
>>136036695
You can check few days before March 14 until today :^)
>>136036695
There was but the growing redditor problem is too big to ignore. Just shitpost until early access.
>>136036604
>not wanting a big booty BR fuckslut to subjugate and show your racial dominance by making her do humiliating things as your masochistic submissive healslut.
>>136036604
Well iCBT2 had Latin America server so I hope they do again.
>>136036501
How is skyliner at 0 cd okay and this isn't?
>>136036501
>Bringing this up
This is painful to watch. All they had to do was add Overheat and it would have been fine but no, they had to do that AND gimp the skill entirely.
>>136036901
>>136036954
I was the first person to report the 'obt soon' post on the tos website. I checked that site every day after icbt2 ended, but ignored /tosg/ untill that anouncement happened. I came here, noticed nobody had seen yet, and posted a link.
From that point on, there was never any build discussion in this general. There was one single anon who wrote his opinions on various classes. Other than that solitary helpful person, there has been nothing but people saying a build is bad with out actually saying why, or just telling people to 'do research'.
>>136037315
>From that point on, there was never any build discussion in this general
Go back to plebbit.
>>136037130
>how is skyliner at 0 cd okay but huge AOE magic (unavoidable) damage that can also freeze enemies at 0 cd isn't?
>>136036979
This is a video game anon. Your fantasies will never come true or apply to real people.
>>136037578
Except iceblast doesn't freeze enemies and requires frozen enemies. it also has a chance to remove the frozen effect.
>>136037496
If i used reddit i would discuss builds there and i wouldnt be upset that there is no build discussion here you bleeding memer
>>136037823
good build
>>136037315
>There was one single anon who wrote his opinions on various classes
And he was proved wrong because he was talking with a minimal interaction with the classes he was talking about
>>136037695
Because it's hard to freeze enemies with Cryo right? You basically have multiple better Cross Cut that works basically every time to use with your range AOE magic Skyliner. Totally fair.
i've never had the opportunity to use iron hook but i'm hopeful for its applications so can anyone answer a few questions about the detailed mechanics behind it?
1. do any status effects inflicted on me *not* disable my usage of the skill?
2. if i use keelhaul, will the target be able to act again?
3. if i keelhaul the target right to me, will iron hook disappear automatically?
4. can i keelhaul a target through a wall?
5. does iron hook flinch players out of their current action?
6. is the longer the duration the better, or are there frequent scenarios where after a certain amount of time iron hook is no longer needed?
>>136038458
>skyliner
>no requirements
>basically just spam one fucking button
Fuck off swordfag.
>>136038583
>weak damage against plate and leather enemies
>some enemies don't even bleed
>waah so OP, nerf pls
Fuck off magicfag.
>Skyliner = 0 cd
>>136037942
>be long time alpha tester of a game
>once a general finally started up, take a lot of time to share the knowledge i had accumulated with the general so people dont make mistakes or get frustrated with the game and we can all play togeather and be strong
>go to a general for a game i did not test
>all the people with more intimate knowledge of the game just repeat memes instead of being helpful
I am disappoint.
The meme build is real...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRlHwgjVgSY
>>136038890
>weak damage against enemies with high magic/frost resist
>some enemies can't even be frozen
>waah so OP, nerf pls
Fuck off swordfag
>>136038583
Can you issue a move command immediately after casting Skyliner to cancel it's animation then use a basic attack and cancel its after-strike animation by casting Skyliner again?
>>136039160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWN77MKzzg
>>136039129
>weak damage against enemies with high magic/frost resist
>some enemies can't even be frozen
lmao. like there are that many of those monsters. don't kid yourself, magicfag.
>>136039309
don't worry. the nerfbat comes for you, swordfag.
>>136039256
What the fuck is going on there? He's using a macro to rapidly cancel the rush skill after using skyliner or something?
>>136039395
yes. it's a bug.
Hi guys I want to play as a mage. Can someone recommend me a good build?
>>136039395
>>136039428
skyliner 0s cd is a bug. they're going to fix it.
>>136039467
Good build.
>>136039115
>instead of being helpful
yeah man no one ever put their knowledge into a convenient document in a visible location for everyone to observe
kys reddit spy
>>136039117
>not getting Str or Dex for dmg, crit and evasion.
Fucking waste of stats. Oblique Shot is a useless skill.
SP regenerates during combat right?
>>136039587
A tick every 20 seconds.
>>136039467
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0ody35e1it/
You can be goku with this
>>136039542
the pastebin is full of useless information
tosgbase is not useful for actually learning about the game because skill tooltips are bullshit half the time.
>>136039467
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ja6o8th469/
is C2 pelt C2 rode C2 fencer tanky enough to tank everything?
Is templar worth dropping fencer C2 for?
>>136038570
I don't think I understand the question but I don't remember being unable to use it when slowed or anything.
Yes, it will pull them towards you but they can still move around and try to get distance.
I don't think it disappeared when used at point blank.
I don't think so.
I'm not sure if I understand, but I'm pretty sure that hook can be considered a stun.
It probably just depends on how long you want it to be. You can cancel the hook whenever you want. I guess inpvpa longer duration could be good if you want to hold someone down.
The abilities are fun and have novelty but I don't think they're that useful overall.
>>136039895
You don't need tanks in this game.
CC, linker and dps with swashbuckling replace tanks while they provide more damage.
>>136039818
Lurk more.
>>136039895
It's straight up impossible to tank any meaningful damage endgame. Magic will still absolutely destroy you in a matter of seconds and it's everywhere. The best defense is to just not take damage in the first place, be it through CC or enough DPS to kill things before they can even respond.
>>136040063
>dont need tanks
>just need these 3 cookie cutter slots in your party at all times
uhhhhh?
>>136040018
thank you for answering most of my questions
in my opinion, i believe for pvp that iron hook is the most useful skill in the swordsman tree. locking down a priority target + potentially two others and being able to sustain that lockdown is too good an opportunity to pass up.
