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Waiting warmly by the fire edition

Previous Thread: >>135941121

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with International Early Access beginning March 29th, and F2P release beginning April 28th.

>Can I play the game now?
International servers open for Early Access on March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) if you have a Founders Pack, and open for F2P users on April 28th. You can also play on the Korean Servers now if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>Early Access Info:
Server Schedule: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/founders-server-exclusive-access-now-purchasable-on-steam/151534
Early Access FAQ #1: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-the-latest-announcement/145895
Early Access FAQ #2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-faq-on-the-latest-announcement/153003

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Early Access begins March 29th, 02:00 AM (EST) with purchase of Founder Pack, April 28th for F2P users

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
- iTOS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit
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first for lolibutt
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cuckTOS in a week+1 day
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xth for mememasters
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How do you make money in this game?

I'm perpetually poor.
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Did the add some dialog lines for Helga in kToS?
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>>135979821
DELETE THIS
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>No Onion Knight R1 Swordsman that prevents from changing into any other class later on, have no skills but has massive stats and can equip anything.
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>not accurately checking your ping to the US east server
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rate my build
me and my gf will play together
also my ping is 100 is it good?
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>>135979821
Honestly TOS being an online game would be pretty cool.
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>>135979914

thank god, this is totally retarded.

anyway, you can be a retarded yourself and level a c1 to the level cap. Please, no Cleric. Cleric is easy mode.
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Is this legit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/4bbfaq/the_wugushi_problem/

Is wugushi really useless in minigames? How easy is it to get antidotes?
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>>135980163
Wugushi are op. One shot, no counter, etc.

t. lolopan
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>>135979923
I expected worse.
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>>135979819
Jewing the market is the true endgame
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>>135979819
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What is better for Quarrel build ?

Str or Dex ?
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>>135980385
mc fucking yoursekf btard
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>>135978852
>>135978879

Well there is too much info, I briefly checked through but it would take me like 2 hours to go through all of it.

Someone please just tell me what wizard classes got changed the most. I heard the linker was nerfed and wizard C2 buffed but that's it.
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>>135979667
Fuck yeah
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I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna buy the Founder's pack.
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>>135980385
I would have answered you but you posted 3DPD like the retarded normie you are. Fuck off, you are not welcome here.
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>>135980486
>OP Pastebin
>Class Changes since iCBT2: http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam

0/10, apply yourself
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>>135980486
There is pastebin in
>TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd about class changes, its even divided into sections, you fucking retard.
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>>135980431
dude could you at least pick one of the two possible answers that i gave ?
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Don't even know if i should play iTOS since it also has 5 dungeon entries now. Logged into kTOS, did some dungeons and was disgusted so logged off again. Maybe it just feels that way because playing the korean version is pointless now.
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>>135980692
no
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>>135980385
>>135980692
These are men.
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>>135980552
its just a phase bro my heart belongs to my 2d waifu
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>>135980759
It's still 2+2, the last patch to iTOS just updated older patch files for some reason which had 5+0 runs. It should still use the later patch files.
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>>135980759
>since it also has 5 dungeon entries now
It doesn't
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>>135980759
itos has 4 dungeon entries

>>135980163
yes, wug can't do shit in pvp get fucked
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>>135980692
yes
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>>135980385
>>135980692
get out.
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>>135980879
0/10
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Everyone ready to log in at the first possible second to try and rush their name?
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Why is this game so biased towards Swordsmen?
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>>135980385
>>135980692
>>135980879
Posting 3d should be a bannable offense.
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>paying for a free game
>paying for a free game where the swordsman is the only viable class
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>>135981098
Towards clerics you mean, right
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Caralho que fio ruim pra porra. Se matem.
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>>135980163
>playing wugushit
>linking plebbit

Get out
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>>135980995
>Having some common weaboo name
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>>135980995
Does the team name show up as the last name of every character you make?
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>>135981098
Great build
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>>135981098
Swordman is literally the weakest tree you retard
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Remember, I am the only true tripfag of /tosg/! Don't respond to any tripfags other than me!
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>>135980976
>>135980930
>>135980929

Can you guys stop being so shallow

here i love 2d just give me a insight here for the Quarrel

Str or Dex ?
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>>135980586
>>135980601

Nvm I am retarded.
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>>135981098
t. Stoneskin Beakmaskbosa
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I can get used to have a Pardoner C3 in my party
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>>135981297
1.53 str per 1 dex
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>>135981175
But think of the rage if you took 'Uzumaki' and never, ever made a character named Naruto.
>>135981205
Yes.
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>>135981297
very good build man
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>>135981254
Кypвa, ты зaeбaл гoвнoпocтить. Пиздyй paбoтaть.
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>>135981390
And a nice day to you too my great Lithuanian friend! *wink*
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Has the orca retard, or whatever his subhuman name is, ever posted or said anything than isn't a shitpost in cyrillic?
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>>135981253
No they aren't you fucking idiot.

Once more, swordsmen do not suck. That's a dumb meme we created so less people roll swordsmen and roll other classes instead since too many people were rolling swordsmen.

The general consensus is actually that Doppel C2, Dragoon, and Fencer C2 are all powerful in their own right and not underpowered at all.
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i just want to sleep and wake up 29/03
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>>135980163
Who cares, PvP in this game is a joke.
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I bought the package.

What have I done..
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jesus didnt die for this
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>>135981510
You are polish, you understood me, right?
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>>135981574
I said weakest tree, not underpowered stupid fuck
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>>135981593
this
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>>135981751
>t. Fuck you
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>>135981710
>playing any game for any reason other than pvp
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>>135981748
Of course. I shitpost myself a lot, it's fun passtime until 26th.
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Reposting, still need some feedback on >


Swordsman:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11.1123354551
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111.11213a4a516572
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111.11213b4f516a7185

Highlander:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#12.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#122.11233a41557585
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1222.213f41657a8a93

Peltasta:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#13.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#133.16263a415463
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1333.16263f415561758195

Hoplite:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#14.15243541
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#144.19283a415171
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1444.1b2b3f41516571

>Barbarian:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#16.1595b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#166.55659aa5b5
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1666.5a6a819daab1

>Cataphract:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#17.152535
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#177.152a3a55
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1777.112e3f5a65

>Rodelero:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1a.253575
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aa.2a3a517485
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1aaa.2d3f51658a91

Corsair:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#18.11253475
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#188.112831557a85
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1888.1123315a7f8a95

Squire:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1b.15243145
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bb.1a31495565
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1bbb.1f31495a6a

Doppelsoeldner:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#19.15243155
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#199.1a315a637383

>Fencer:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1e.24354571
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1ee.112a38456571

Centurion:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1c.15213145516181
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1cc.1a213145a1618195

Dragoon:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1f.15243541

Templar:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1g.152135

Shinobi:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1d.1325314155
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>>135981989
Did you learn russian in school?
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>>135980163
Antidotes are pretty easy to get desu.

Just play ranger into musk if you want to dominate in pvp
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>>135981989
your thoughts on vp sucking massive dongs
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>>135982154
Lose weight
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>>135982154
uhm
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>>135982154
you can't be fucking serious
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>>135982154
uhmmmmm
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>tfw eight more days of this ;_;
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>>135981981
>not playing because of cuteness
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>diminishing returns on skill enhancement
>market ruled by perfect competition
Just like my Economics 101 classes
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>>135982420
amazing
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>>135982452
Priorities.
You make a list with all alive games with pvp
Then you pick the cutest
That's why I'm here anon
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>>135982165
No I put it in google translate. Which basically turned cyrillic into "normal" alphabet and I could grasp the sentence. I don't know much russian, outside of cyka blyat cheeki breeki etc

>>135982249
I like Pokemon. First gen TCG was great.
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>>135982816
Literally all me
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It is possible to use dragoon skills mounted?
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Waiting for Founder's Pack to play.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7aaqcnjsll/

Does anyone know how exactly the basecamp, and refreshment table works? The refreshment table has boosts, but what stats get boosted? I just want to be the best fucking blacksmith/party thrower.
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>>135982934
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!
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>>135983043
Good build.
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Hey, /tosg/, would you pic?
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>>135982976
yes
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>>135982976
Yes.
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How do we solve the BR problem?
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>>135983043
pretty good
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>>135983043
On suicide watch
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>>135983120
>t. Autentist the Autist
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>>135983220
IMC announces that they have cut off the internet cable connecting BRland to america
they make a BR server
monkeys in the zoo
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>>135983043
>Base Camp
Increases duration of buffs/debuffs cast next to it - 10% per skill level
Can be teleported to at any time by guild and party members.

>Table
Allows you to create food and distribute it to players.
List of food: +Max HP, +Max SP, +HP regen, +SP regen.
+Max is 10% on level 1, +2.5% per level, so level 10 table can increase your max HP and SP by 32.5%. Regens were +1 per skill level, iirc, shit.
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>>135983043
This is fucking horrible Jesus

>>135983195
y
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>>135983408
Chigaudesu
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>>135983414
They haven't even announced EU servers. Brazilian server is but a dream.
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>defense is useless in this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtCAdLVHu54
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>>135981141
>>135981253
>swordsman
>4x more health than any other class
>highest sustained dps through all the patches
>only subclass that enhances money making without gimping yourself (corsair)
>ignore crowd control ability in your first fucking circle
>lower SP consumption than any other class, therefore needing no SPR

Swordsman may be boring, but they're far from being weak, shit changes drastically from one week to the next, a single skill change can turn any class into lolipan tier or a god tier, overall swordsman has been riding that rollercoaster every week.
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rofl there's people in this thread that play for the PvP? just play fucking street fighter for that
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>>135980163
Yes, wugu is a pve only class. It's cool though

>>135980385
DEX probably

>>135983885
DELETE THIS
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>>135983885
damn, the western release is going to be a shitfest of dmn and doddler-fed hacks, isn't it
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>>135983885
Where is damage?
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>>135984321
There is none because they're only going for defense :^)
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>>135983158
>>135983293
>>135983342
>>135983514
>discouraging a Squire C3
kys my friends, an absolute madman dropped you from the sky and instead of helping him, you are being cucks

>>135983043
Okay so regarding that build, Peltasta C2 + Cata C1 is pretty terrible idea because of weapons. Peltasta focuses on shields, and Cata gives you access to only 2h spears.
A path of Squire is a hard and challenging one. First of all, you'll be lacking damage after rank 4. You went for a tank build, but consider something more DPS'y, so you can do well when solo.

A lot of people seem to be against this, but Peltasta C3 is not too bad when it comes to dealing damage, but it's not "the king" in it, obviously.
Highlander C3 is also pretty legit, has nicer damage, can block attacks with two-handed sword, but no AoE taunt.

As for exact skill distribution, check the wall of builds above for general pointers, and then spice it up a bit if you wish.
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>>135983621
Maybe the BR server will also be the EU server.

Share the dream.
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>>135984106
>I'm a casual

t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>135983501
So would I be able to make game breakingly strong equipment if I got nothing but intelligence for Weapon and Amor maintenance?
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I actually have a serious question. I leveled to 224 lvl and im yet to see a necro. Are they that bad/expensive?
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>>135984548
how is pvp in this game anything more than a casual mess
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>>135984548
'sup casual
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>>135984597
Ask bingo
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>>135983043
AWESOME build man, keep it up!!
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>>135984106
I already do. Whatever game you could name, I already play it or played it.
What now, Scrub MCasual?
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>>135983918
Dont even try, they are the "atificial difficulty" kind of people who like to avoid the strongest stuff because they "want it to be a challenge" by hitting awfully now and dying on 1 hit.
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>>135983885
what build is that
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>>135984590
No, INT affects the amount of hits the weapon can do and the armor can take before buffs go away. In practice, the time runs out faster than hits, almost always.
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>>135984694
She left
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>Get excited to play TOS again
>Sure I'll throw down a few shekels for a BR free month
>It's not even available for another week

Damnit.
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>>135984712
you haven't played battle garegga, casualfriend
not beyond stage 3, for sure.
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>>135984106
Kill yourself wowbaby
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>>135983220
You don't. :3
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>>135984797
Ranger3-Fletcher2 (went for 3 later).
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>>135984106
FUCK OFF PVE QUEEN

FUCK CAREBEARS
FUCK CASUALS
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Do you think this game will loosen up over time with trading and market related restrictions? I remember on Mabinogi(a F2P game that you couldn't even advance in skills or do any of the storyline quests without paying at the start) you couldn't even open a shop without paying, but it got really relaxed later on. Does it seem like IMC has a plan for what they're going to sell, or does it look like they're just going to sell hair, panties, and clothes at first before moving on to selling weapons?
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>>135979914
Also known as potato mode.
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is stoneskin under the nerf radar? or is it working as intended?
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>>135985072
How're the fletcher skills? I'm thinking of making a C3 with Sapper C2
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>>135984106
I'm going to PK the shit out of you just for being this much of a gay
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>>135984856
>Sure I'll throw down a few shekels for a BR free month
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>>135985252
Priest is under the nerf radar.
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Get in
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>>135983885
So what is the secret behind this video? That "one weird trick" which makes it possible, that makes Kiritos hate it?
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>>135984495
I'm the Squire C3 guy.

I was thinking that as far as my character goes, I could be a huge tank, up until I become a huge blacksmith. Completely party reliant, because I must have problems.

>Should I just go Peltasta C3 instead of Pelt C2 + Cata C1?

>Hypothetically, if I were to invest in nothing but intelligence, would I be able to make game breaking equipment through Weapon/Armor maintenance?
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>>135985282
The dream is dead. Goddamnit.
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Speaking of PvP, is there a certain level people need to be to do it? I heard that it scaled up stats or something, does it? Are there any rewards like xp for winning or how does it work? I know there's some 5v5 thing but that's all I really know.
also is my build good https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11247bed.1323334353.14233444.14233444.14233444.15243442.2333435373.1224324354
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>>135985342
nooo how am i supposed to futureproof now
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>>135979914
I miss RO's novice and super novice. There's just something about everyone starting off the same and diverging.
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>>135985512
NARUTO???????
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>>135985282
algem?
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>>135985273
Extremely strong singletarget with Broadhead, Magic Arrow and Barbed Arrow. But Barbed and Crossfire in particular cost a fuckton of SP.

Sustained AoE is decent, but you have to spend so much SP for it which is really annoying. Meanwhile an Ele3 just drops a Frost Cloud and kills shit faster with like 15 times less SP usage.
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>>135985512
nice build man
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>>135985278
I'll make sure to run around you and last-hit every single monster you lay your hand on as you have absolutely fucking nothing to do about it, newfriend :)
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>>135985282
I heard there's advertisement on the streets there.
Not sure if that's true though, I tried searching for proof.
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>>135984984
you know the funny thing is wow and ff14 probably have better balanced pvp than this game
who knows about fun though
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>>135985776
If you are in a guild I'll pk you
If not I'll just go do my daily dungeons and log out like any other day
Your shitty pve shenanigans are weak fampie
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Which classes people are rolling for Musk? Since most skills doesn't work with a musket.
They're all going "full support" until there or is just a description error on tosbase?
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>>135985404
Unless you want the mount badly, go ahead. I played Pelt C3 Squire C3, and it wasn't too bad. I managed to solo Squire C2 advancement boss, when still wearing some really low level (1-10) gear. Sure it took few minutes, but Peltasta got buffed a bit since then in terms of offense.
But its' defense buffs are pretty bad right now. Pretty serious attack reduction for really insignificant defense increases. Shame, really. Hopefully they get fixed.

And like said here, >>135984826. INT won't make you stronger but in the future, who knows what IMC will do?
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>>135980163
As a Wugushi, this shit pisses me off.

Antidote shouldn't even be in the game, why would they make a potion that specifically removes one debuff that is a classes' main source of damage, and give it no CD on top of that? Is IMC literally retarded?
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>>135983885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pweAa8pjpXg

same thing as in this video.
200 def from Aspersion probably, but how do you get 400 def with that little points in CON.
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>>135985404
I'm not him, but I guess hopc2 could make up for your lack of damage and increase your block rate with Finestra.
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>>135985928
Why do people obsess over balance so much
Most competitive games aren't even balanced, why would a fucking mmo of all things be balanced?
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>>135985362

It's the slut bus!
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help me out /tosg/ should I main a memedoctor or a cryo
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>>135986005
Ranger for steady aim
Sapper for traps
Hunter for pet
Falconer for AoE on snipe
Archer c2 for swift step crit bonus
Scout for stealth and out of stealth bonus dmg

There's a lot of shit senpai
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>>135979923
>>135980319
HU3.
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>>135986005
>Since most skills doesn't work with a musket.
Auto weapon switch.
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I'm staring at all these classes and it's just like... where do I even start. Wow.
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>>135986168
go cryo>psycho
memedoctor is like the most overplayed shit in the game, and it's going to get the nerf bat sooner or later.
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>>135986303
good build
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>>135986154
Lineage is balanced
Lineage 2 is balanced
Aion is balanced
Blade and Soul is balanced

These are all PvP games.

I wonder why Koreans eat up NCsoft's games and not Tree of Savior? Maybe because IMC doesn't know how to balance for shit.
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Was planning on going cleric1 priest3 pardoner2 memedoctor1 but would I even be able to solo anything or would I have to group up constantly?
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>>135986303
Why not pick that one that looks cool?
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this indecision is killing me, between cata dragoon and hoplite dragoon
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>>135986154
you're right, but there's a lot of people who take pvp in this game incredibly seriously, to the point where that's the main reason they play
probably RObabbies crying for "muh WOE"
in reality it's just a very casual side aspect of the game.
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>>135986303
pick the ones with the best costumes.
this is a dress up simulator first and foremost.
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>>135986440
But what if the class I pick is shit?
Spoiler: I'm going to suck at playing it either way.
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>>135986376
yeah I was afraid of that. We should have a class poll in the OP
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>>135986141
This build is alright too. Only issue is that LITERALLY everyone uses spears.
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>>135986467
I'm one of those people, and balance still doesn't mean shit in a competitive environment. If you don't play the nost effective build/team composition is your own fault. I don't see how unbalance make it less competitive unless for some reason the game is 100% luck.
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>>135986694
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ufD39PDP-VpU9NGokyNgWx_YHxkTo4bFHTaJWl-O4GE/edit#gid=435828731
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>>135986684
>dressup simulator
>only like 4 outfits in the cash shop
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>>135986684
If I was picking purely by outfit with no knowledge of the class itself?
Archer: Scout, Rogue, Schwarze Reiter / Falconer
Wizard: Pyromancer / Thaumaturge / Sorcerer / Necromancer
Cleric: Paladin / Pardoner / Oracle / Plague Doctor
Swordsman: Corsair / Fencer / Dragoon
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>>135986984
more will come soon. they are already making more costumes with the founder's packs money. probably. once they have enough sports cars.
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>>135986984

I think there's a total of 10 cash shop costumes with the recent patch now
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>>135986797
t. lolipantsu
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>>135987170
Wrong, motherfucker
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>>135986685
So pick good classes that look fun
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>>135987081
literally all the best classes
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>>135986984
they're focusing on adding real content to the game first
once they're done with that expect them to neglect the game and focus on cash shop updates every week
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>>135986797
>balance still doesn't mean shit in a competitive environment. If you don't play the nost effective build/team composition is your own fault
This is why GvG is more balanced than the arena minigame
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>>135987354
stay safe poverty ghost
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>>135987354
what's funny is that lolipantsu said the same thing and is shit at the game
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>>135987354
Stay safe poverty ghost
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>tfw you realize if they add a R2 ~ R4 hidden class that fits perfectly on your build after you reach that you can't change back.
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>>135987081
You can make it work. I don't see much problems with any of those other than Fencer being Rapier-locked.
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>>135987081
>No alchemist
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>>135987354
are you ready?
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>>135987546
>not leveling to 280 as R1 class for max futureproof
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>>135987546
Just make a new character! I'm sure we can accommodate some bonuses to be purchased in the TP Store to make your levelling experience easier.

t. IMC
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>>135987484
I'm most likely shit at the game too. Doesn't mean that I will not try to git gud, though.
But I don't see how that makes my point of view less valid.
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>>135987546

Remake. It's not hard anon.
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>>135987709
How viable is this? 280 is max level?
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>>135986453
I'm in the same boat, anime girl poster.
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>29 STILL hasn't arrived

That's it

I'm freezing myself.
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Item awakening sounds fun. Is it useless?
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>>135986132
If he has 220 plate gear (upgraded to +3) i guess it might be possible to get 400 DEF.
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>They don't know that you get instant rank cards for leveling to next advancement cutoff without advancing previously
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>>135988102
good
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>>135987912
>>135986453
Cata dragoon is better.

But if you really can't decide
Odds hoplite
Evens Cataphract
0 hoplite cataphract
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As someone whose spent 600 hours already playing icbt1 and 2 this is just a reminder of what is to come. Without 3x rates you're all going to be grinding Cathedral for weeks. They nerfed blue spawns too and even with cards which you shouldn't use early it's a bitch.

Also 60% of the population according to IMC's official polling is indeed BR. They crashed the instance and messaging server with their spamming of megaphones and crap for weeks.

For those faggots talking about instance dungeons and exp they don't mean shit when the server crashes and lags. Plus a lot of them didn't give dick shit for exp in iToS which they could just do again.
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>>135986685
Outside of Bokor and rodelero, everything works one way or another, and even Bokor works fine it's just that zombies are crap, and even mackangdal being secretly OP.

You can just copy the meme builds koreans are using for the tryhard content or pvp fotm if you feel insecure, but by the time you reach rank 7 those builds might be significantly changed already or nerfed to hell.

So you'll be stuck with some weak ass character you probably didn't even want to play just because it had some damage modifier toned up too high or some utility skill having no downtime and no flaws.

My suggestion is, if something sounds too good, make sure the other skills in the same class are decent too, if something sounds weak but fun take other classes that can still carry you regardless of one or two of your circles being bellow the average performance.

If you're entirely new and don't know the current meta, then lurk more, or watch some streams.
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>>135988117
You can also get 64 armor from Squire's Maintenance.

>>135988203
>"""""""""""""""iCBT veteran"""""""""""""""
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>>135987727
your point is right it's just that lolipantsu said something similar but in a retarded way.
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>>135987764
You know you have to level class level too right?
Getting from class level 1 to 15 as rank 6 takes more EXP as getting to character level 200.
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>>135988203
>60%
This can't be right.
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How do you guys think the ERP will be in this game? High or low?
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>>135988568
Kill yourself.
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>>135988203
>grinding Cathedral
>ever
found the retard
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>>135988568
Read: >>135988631

Then kill yourself.
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>>135988489
Just get ahead of the curve then, don't sleep the first 1-2 days and you'll be easily 30 levels higher than the average BR, they won't bother you unless you're in a main city flashing your panties.
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>>135988194
>0 hoplite cataphract
HopCata3 seems better for Stabb and some Finestra.
There isn't many options anyway, except for Restrain on Sword3 which is kinda lame and almost exclusive for PVP that also gets rekt by any plague doc or Thighlander2 for memestroke+bleeding combo and moulinet.
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>>135988568
Kill yourself.

>>135988631
>>135988693

Then do this.

Kill yourself.
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>>135988194
THAT'S IT, JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP!

ROLL
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>>135986453
Do you want to PvP? Cata3>Dragoon3
Do you want to PvE? Hop3>Doppel>Dragoon
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>D-don't roll Priest or Doctor, everyone and their mother are playing them
Most of the kTOS Doctors I met aren't competent enough for their level and after reading the Cleric advice around here, that's going to be the same for international

Also, more than half of the people asking for Chaplain/Doc advice will probably drop before reaching it because I doubt they can play a dull and bot-like class like Priest.
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>>135988862
but can you do relative good with cata on pve?
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>>135988194
0 is even
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>>135988203

According to Steamspy, about 16% of the playerbase is BRs. But this only counts people who own the game not people who bought early access.
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>>135988987
Obviously, as long as you have Dragoon you'll do fine regardless of what shit-tier lolipantsu build you had before.
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>>135988940
can you give some advice to be good?
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>>135986432
pls respond
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>>135988203
>muh icbt2
kek
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>>135988203
>instance dungeons don't mean shit when the server crashes and lags
This tbqh, the only non retarded thing you said
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@135989169 (You)
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>>135988631
>>135988693
>>135988815
That doesn't answer my question, Anons~
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>>135989051
0 is a prime number idiot
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sword 3 > hoplite 3 > templar

I'm going to be dead weight and you can't stop me.
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>>135989259
anime is gay
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>>135989326
why not cata?
restrain + going fast as fuck is top tier pvp material.
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>>135988568
who are these semen demons
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>>135988739
The loli-archetype isnt predominant in BR, dude.
You're so wrong that you probably don't know shit about BR. It's all about big booty/boobs there, muh bruh. Loli/pantsu is a niche.
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Advice on this build?
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>>135989334
don't be silly
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>>135989326
>templar without cata3
lol
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>>135989147
>Turn off your brain
>Cast all your buffs
>Keep looking at the timer under your SP bar
>Press heal key once in a while
>Repeat again since step 2 until you win
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>>135989468
very good centurion build.
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>>135989248
You're doing this wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWN77MKzzg

this is just someone spamming skyliner with really good ping right?
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>>135989474
Fuck off homo.
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So which class is shit tier ?
I wanna be useless and irrelevant fuckboi carried by lolis
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How hard will be linker nerfed on itos?
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Is there a list of what Detonate Trap on sapper works on? Also it works on ally stuff too right?
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>>135989463
this slut is far from being a loli, dude
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>>135989646
severely compared to icbt2 but it is still really good
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>>135989637
Rodelero
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>>135989260
0/n = 0, ∀ n != 0
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>>135989421
Mounts are ugly.
Also I'm a snowflake.
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>>135989619
holy fuck this is like Agi knight from RO, my god damn dream build

plz tell me he isn't hacking or anything, I want to play exactly that character with that damage
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