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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, March 19th:
1279 – A Mongolian victory at the Battle of Yamen ends the Song dynasty in China.
1649 – The House of Commons of England passes an act abolishing the House of Lords, declaring it "useless and dangerous to the people of England".
1853 – The Taiping reform movement occupies and makes Nanjing its capital until 1864.
1920 – The United States Senate rejects the Treaty of Versailles for the second time (the first time was on November 19, 1919).
1941 – World War II: The 99th Pursuit Squadron also known as the Tuskegee Airmen, the first all-black unit of the US Army Air Corps, is activated.


>News
HOI4 DD 48
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-48th-development-diary-11th-of-march-2016.913075/

EU4 DD 17/03
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-17th-march-2016.914124/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.2 - 14/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old Thread >>135686658
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>135759703
thanks
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What do I pick, /gsg/?
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Just got V2 from the archive with HPM, is there any reason why my zoom and scroll are so clunky or is this how it's always been?

Like in ck2 it decelerates when you put your mouse off the edge but here its instant.
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>>135760250
do it
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nth for paradrones
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>>135760250
c-cancel
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>>135760250
The Axis is our future, duh.
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how does the craftsman assimilation trick work? i am not memeing you, i keep hearing about it but could never understand what the hell it is. does it only work with hpm?
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how does the craftsman assimilation trick work? i am not memeing you, i keep hearing about it but could never understand what the hell it is. does it only work with hpm?
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>>135760583
Lad, I explained it in the last thread.
And no, it's an exploit that works with every version of Vic 2, as no mods fixes those type of bugs.

>>135760760
>memes
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how does the craftsman assimilation trick work? i am not memeing you, i keep hearing about it but could never understand what the hell it is. does it only work with napoopan?
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how does the craftsman assimilation trick work? i am not memeing you, i keep hearing about it but could never understand what the hell it is. does it only work with visegradmod?
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>>135760067
>FAG
?
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>>135760308
It's how it always been in V2.

>>135758382
Depends on the nation you are playing India is the Hindu project for the subcontinent, so usually you can only form it as a Hindu nation. If you country is a self claimed Empire - like Sikhs or the Mughals, then you also can't flip. I will probably change it so you can form India most of the times and as any nation in the subcontinent, but doing so would change state religion to Hindu.

>>135759940
Yeah, it's a bit of a problem because the US changed so much through the period. As a quickfix I will probably make the event that spreads CSA cores increase conservative/reactionary ideology and bring down party loyalty a little bit.
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>>135761091
FrAnce Germany
Dont ask
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>>135761219
its France And Germany lad
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>>135760836
say that i play with japan and i have annexed korea. if i want koreans to assimilate, i would have to build factories in all korea, artificially create unemployment in japan to make the japanese move to korea, and then by promoting craftsmen at korea the assimilation would increase greatly. is that right?
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>>135761156
See >>135759232.

>>135759960
Taking the territory of IRL East Germany would make Poland-Lithuania look pretty swell. And you could always puppet Czechoslovakia.
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>>135761219
Could also be a french holy roman emperor tbqh
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>>135761445
whad da fug
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>>135760002
AUTISM
U
T
I
S
M

At least I'm going out tonight to drink and hit on sluts in vain
Fuck you
I really do hate you
It's become so irrational at this point but I don't even care
We probably aren't all that different, you and I
Except I'm better looking
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>>135760271
Except it literally can't conquer another region until it becomes a GP, and it can't become a GP until it conquers another region.

So how the fuck is switzerland ever supposed to do anything? Even in NNM it only had a 0.00001% chance of doing something, and HPM decided that was too much and needed to be 0%.
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>>135761569
Occitania/Occitan is part of the cultures minimod. You need the new versions to use it though.
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>>135760067
Even better, though, if you really want it to look as legit as possible, use a darker shade of blue for the centre shield, something closer to the French Kingdom CoA blue. But that's a minor detail, it looks cool as it is.
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>tfw Stellaris won't have truly alien cultures
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>>135760002
27th for meme venice
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>>135762005
What is truly alien? We've never met aliens.
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>>135761738
Couldn't I McGyver it into the game by copying the stuff needed into the files already in my HPM folder? What exactly would make it incompatible with my version? Something added by the update?
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>>135762260
>
ayy
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>>135762260

imagine if a normal person saw /gsg/ with no prior knowledge
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>>135762005
wut do you mean bruv?
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>>135761625
post face
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>>135761674
>neutral landlocked country doesn't abandon its neutrality for no reason because neutrality was a pretty big fucking deal for it
>wow railroading
ok then, whatever floats your boat
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>>135761650
But I've actually encountered HPMIDF calling me Rob for the fact I even dared to meme about HPM and Victoria.
I would love to like HPM, but it's a good mod that has the most awful fans. You can't say a negative word about it or you'll get at least 3 (you)s calling you Rob or a different shitposter.
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Is there any grand strat where I can play Turkey and support isis?
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>>135762562
>judging a product for its fanbase alone
Grow some balls.
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>>135762562
I thought calling people rob was a meme
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>>135762562
Blame Rob. He's literally poisoned the thread and there is no place for gsg to be discussed civilly. The fact that he still comes back every few days to shitpost (like with this switzerland GP bullshit) just means that the thread will never be safe.
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>>135761738
Would it be possible to implement some sort of decrease in Yankees in territories and later implementing the Homestead Act, which speeds up the Yankee assimilation in the territory and thus admittance as states,? Because right now it's just way too fast
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>>135762562
>meme about something
>get memed back
>wow these people are awful
WEW
>i don't like something because of the alleged fanbase in a place
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
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meme
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>>135760321
>>135760349
>>135760395
Am considering modding in more people for the cabinet though. There were quite a few in the movie that I can use. Probably will change name back to United Kingdom or go for a new one like Union of Britain. 'Norsefire England' sounds as bad as 'Nazi Germany'.
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Multiplayer when
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>>135762562
Just play Robmod. It's literally a better mod and Rob actually listens to suggestions. HPMtards are this butthurt over the fact that people play anything other than HPM because they are entirely insecure.
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>>135762479
nyet
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>>135763072
common rob your not fooling anyone. No one likes your shitty mod.
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>>135762289
No, there are new files. The game doesn't let you AFAIK, it will just fuck up your save.

>>135762760
Theoretically, yes. The problem with this is that it opens up for the assimilation bug - states with 30+% bureaucrats/soldiers/intellectuals
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>>135763031
>>135763072
Fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>135762469
>we will never encounter an alien civilization which considers slavery to be normal
>except social progress turned exploitation into Duty to Protect
>understanding of war change from competition to survive or win, into competition to dominate, surrender is commonplace
>you will never end up with a fuckload of PoWs and a civilization that wants to submit to you
>you will never face anti-slavery sentiment back home and leave them
>this won't lead to resentment among the culture shocked alien people, creating anti- and pro- human sides locked in civil war
>you will never be informed that the pro-human side won
>you will never be informed that an alien species has used retro-viral engineering to become genetically compatible with yours
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>>135762681
I mean, I like HPM, I pretty much only play it these days besides meme mods like Legacy of Slovenia. It's a good mod, but its fans are still awful.

>>135762693
It is a meme, but when you're called Rob for the thousandth time it gets boring.

>>135762793
I never use memes. All my criticism is thought out thoroughly before posting.
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>>135763072
Nice false flag to try to prove your own point
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>>135763278
There is no steam group
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>>135761782
Like this? could you post your flags in 93x64? they get blurry when i crop them
Also rate communist flag
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And so it begins
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>tfw want to create my own custom nation in single player but I don't want to buy 4000 fucking DLCs

End me.
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Which of the Caucasian states should I play as?

http://poal.me/iuxcag
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>>135763364
> for the fact I even dared to meme about HPM and Victoria.
You memed people, they memed you back and you are calling people that memed you back the awful people
The irony

>inb4 I dindu nuffin, I was a good boy
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>>135762989
Doesn't the movie focus on England only, with the rest of the world (and I assume, Scotland and Wales and Ireland) destroyed by some apocalypse or another?
Can't remember if that's the same in the comics.
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>>135763457
You mean these, right? 1/2
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>>135763410
Those people are long gone, only Kojak (Rob's lapdog) remained
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>>135763267
Could you add province effects that slow down assimilation rates, until the Homestead Act or decisions related to the Indian wars?
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>>135763561
Circassia, they have their own unit pack.
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>>135763770
Yes, thanks a lot
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>>135763601
And that's what I'm calling HPMIDF. I have never in my life memed people (okay maybe outside of HPM discussions), all my criticism I backed by historical sources.
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>>135763267
Hey, I really like that event where if Transvaal OR Oranje occupies SA they unite it under boer rule, but I think you should really make it so it also unites under Boer rule if one or the other occupies it.

E.G: Traansvaal occupies Capetown, Khoisa, etcetera and Oranje occupies Natalia, Xhosa, etcetera.

Because currently if they win the Boer wars and completely occupy SA they get nothing, as both nations can't have the event fire.

I just woke up, does any of this make sense?
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>>135763267
You remember that reddit thread that was linked on here about a bug with the way slaves worked making slave-state economies awful? Have you fixed that or was that the way it was supposed to be?
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>>135763457
>>135763770
>>135763869
2/2
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>>135763462
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA
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>>135763770
>gerfrance
DELETE THIS
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>>135763267
How would I go about playing a Spain game without all the Carlist/Christino rebellions constantly? I tried firing the event to end it, but Christinos are still around.
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>>135763626
Yes but it's essentially the UK with Scottish, Welsh and Irish cultures being put under the Anglo-Saxon one, hence England Prevails etc. Officially they still called the place Britain.
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>>135763410
Nice photoshop there friend
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>>135764057

Anon can I suck your dick?
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>>135764045
Thank you very much, once again
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>>135764421
No problem.
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>>135764410
no but you can read the Op
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>>135763896
You just admitted you did dindu
If you meme people expect to get memed on
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>>135763317
>>we will never encounter an alien civilization which considers slavery to be normal
>>except social progress turned exploitation into Duty to Protect
>>understanding of war change from competition to survive or win, into competition to dominate, surrender is commonplace
>>you will never end up with a fuckload of PoWs and a civilization that wants to submit to you

just play Europa Universalis Rome
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>>135764521
>bringing up historical sources to argue for a feature's inclusion in a historical mod in memeing

t. HPMIDF
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>>135764467
do you need help with any flag?
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>>135764521
But I really did dundu. Can't you believe me just for one second? I thought so highly of /gsg/ posters.
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REEEEEE MULTIPLAYER WHEN
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>>135764742
>admitted he memed
>memed just last thread
>get memed back
>I dindu nuffin
yeah this is going in circles, no sense in trying to use logic in niggers
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>>135764675
Well, now that I think of it, I don't really need help with MAKING flags themselves. Usually that's the easy part. What I do sometimes need help with from time to time is with the coming up with ideas and information for making flags.

For example, I have no idea what to do with the Toucoleour Empire. I remember last year I tried to tackle it and I researched a bit but found no useable information or symbols about it. So if you happen to find anything I could use to make flags, I'll be grateful. Don't worry too much about it though, there's no urgency.
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This + Quebec, Ontario, South Africa, Australia
Belarus will either be part of Ukraine or RK poland
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>>135764891
I never admitted I memed in the last thread. Come on lad, give a drunk man some slack, were all friends here after all.
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>>135763267
Can you change the way the Irish work, please? When they're released they should be released as a British satellite state, and crucially, a constitutional monarchy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Free_State
Then, Northern Ireland should opt out of it to rejoin the UK, almost instantaneously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Free_State#Northern_Ireland_.22opts_out.22
Then there should be the civil war, between pro treaty and anti treaty forces, if the pro treaty forces win Ireland lose their cores on NI and remain a British puppet, if anti-treaty forces win they should become an independent republic and keep their cores on NI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Civil_War

I know you probably think this is unimportant, but seeing a stable Ireland as a puppet of the UK, with NI every game is an insult to history.
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I really hate people that denounce their warcrimes and their memes
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>>135765002
Make Poland gross.
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This is probably only going to reveal my retardation, but how do you nuke shit in DH? I have a nuke but I don't see the mission for my strat or tac bombers.
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>>135765002
>Quebec, Ontario
Mein penis
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>>135765269
t. armenian
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>>135765348
You have to attach the nuke to the strat bomber first. It works like a brigade.
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>>135765396
t. Kojak pretending to be Adus pretending to be Rob pretending to be HPM pretending to be Mediafire guy pretending to be Poopan pretending to be Sir Oswald Ernald Mosley pretending to be Codreanu pretending to be Emperor Hirohito pretending to be AFP Guy pretending to be Johan pretending to be that one guy who posted his Rule the Waves game and got banned pretending to be Bhutan pretending to be By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Nogorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; Circassian and Mountainous Princes and their Hereditary Lord and Owner; Lord of Turkestan; Norwegian Heir; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others Tsar Nikolai II pretending to be me.
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>>135763461
It's that sort of game then

Fucking hell
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>>135765394
Something like this
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>>135765348
You can also attach it to rockets if you have researched the tech needed.
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What's the smallest nation that you can still do something with in vicky without blobbing, lads?
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>>135765574
Please continue posting. Nobody ever posts HoI3
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>>135765710
Bhutan
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>>135765479
>t. Mjana
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>>135765656
>you will never live in a world where Berlin isn't renamed Kitchener
>you will never live in a world where Kingston is renamed Kaiserton
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>>135765892
I already have a decision to rename Australia
I could make one for South africa and Canada too
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Can someone explain why elective monarchy is so popular in CK2 or is my game just being weird? Almost every kingdom is elective monarchy and I constantly have vassals making factions for elective monarchy, in fact the only reason I became Basileus of Byzantines is because I got elected and then changed the succession.
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>>135765206
Ireland losing their cores on NI is more ahistorical, historically the pro-treaty side won the civil war but Ireland kept claims on NI until 1998.
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>>135765710
Probably a Latin American nation like Uruguay, Costa Rica or the Dominican Republic
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>>135765452
Thanks senpai, gonna show those dirty monarchists the power of syndicalism. :^)
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>>135764996
could you make a Wettin Imperial Germany, or a Habsburg Italy flag?
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>>135765206
Britian already has an option to annex Northern Ireland and puppet Ireland after the Irish War of Independence.
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>>135765892
56 Kaserton
50 Lorbeerberg
37 Kitchener
55 - Neu Berlin
48 Nord Baar Kreis
54 Sud Baar Kreis
66 Waldsbut
68 Neu Freidrichshafen/ Freidrichsburg/ Fritzburg
69 - Wolfenstein/Leonberg
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>>135766115
I hope you added Kaisermania

In Canada the only thing I can think of are Kingston being Kaiserton (is Kingston a province or is it just Toronto?)
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>>135766861
I added it twice
for some reason...
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>>135766219
The treaty allowed Northern Ireland to remove itself, effectively killing the cores, later sinn fein governments maintained they had a "core" there but the pro treaty forces were completely for NI seceding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Irish_Treaty#Content
>Northern Ireland (which had been created earlier by the Government of Ireland Act) would have the option of withdrawing from the Irish Free State within one month of the Treaty coming into effect.
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How the hell do I survive as Tibet on EU4? All the Indian fucks from Nepal to Bengal gang up on me before I even have the chance to unify the Tibetan Highlands.
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>>135766774
Does Ireland have a civil war in the event of that happening between pro treaty and anti-treaty forces?
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>>135765206
Speaking of Ireland, there should be an option for a great power that has poor relations with the UK to support the Irish.

Historically, the Germans sent guns to Ireland during the Easter Rising, but the shipment was intercepted by the Royal Navy.
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How do I get people to migrate to the colonies in vanilla Vic 2? (with the expansions)
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>>135767059
pls make it black and white for consistency's sake
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>>135767064
Remove straits
Add Mountains
>>135767273
all right
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>>135767248
I don't really know about that as Germany was fully at war with Britain during the time, but maybe an event like the "encourage pan arabism" for the Ottomans, in the event someone is at war with them?
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HPMeme if you're still here, there's an event which lets you take the "trinket healthcare" reform, which is neat, except that the event can fire even if you don't meet the tech requirement for trinket healthcare.
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>>135767064
They had no choice, it was either that or 'immediate and terrible war'. The IRA was running out of supplies.

Michael Collins did not support Ireland losing 'cores' on NI any more than Phillipe Petain supported France losing 'cores' on Alsace-Lorraine in 1940.

>>135767234
No.
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>>135767642
Unrelated, and don't know if it's HPM, but I had an event that forced me to chose between acceptable pensions or acceptable minimum wages. I had none of these reforms at all, jumped from none to next to last.
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>>135767256
Research education techs, pass the transport penalty reforms (if HPM). And if all that fails close your factories.
You could always get occupied, but that's not really worth it.
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>>135765574
>it's a Nazi Germany single-handedly eliminates Communism episode
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>>135768219
oh man love me some of that
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>>135768219
Isn't that a good thing if you're playing USA? It actually gives you some challenge?
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>>135768398
desu I was hoping for the USSR to survive so we could squeeze Germany between ourselves like IRL but then I was reminded that the USSR never survives in HPP
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>>135768675
>wanting to give up based Eastern Europe to the commies
But Anon, that's perfidious as fuck.
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>>135768820
Well he is playing USA.
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>>135768170
thanks family
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>>135768982
B-but USA wanted to liberate us, right? We got betrayed only because of Churchill being a coward.

>>135769002
No problem, lad.
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>Tfw we want to play Stellaris as a group, maybe with the lads from /gsg/
>But if we do that then everyone will want to be Human
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>>135768219
If this was true considering Germanys area
of 137,903 mi2 and the soviet unions area of 8.65 million sq there would be 62 Germany's.
http://www.germany.travel/en/ms/german-originality/made-in-germany/german-inventions/german-inventions.html
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>>135769387
Roosevelt would have probably given away all of Europe to the Reds if he hadn't died off. He was crazy trusting of the Sovs.

I don't think Truman cared about anything outside of the US, based president.
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>>135760836
>>135761493
pls respond
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>>135765002
>groβ ukraine
>that fucking bulgaria
kys
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>>135761493
Yes, that's correct. Also having encouraging pops that only Japanese (for literacy reasons) can promote to also does help.
And sorry for not responding earlier, I haven't seen your post.
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*plomps down into thread after a long day*

AAAHHH me lads so what's goin on here today
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>>135770129
fuck off and die
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>>135770129
WILHELM, this is your grandmother; the motherfucking Queen of England. Now listen to me you little cunt, wot wot wots all this eh about you walking up and down these fine folk with your cock out? What did the good doctor say boy about the devils handshake by jove, first you go blind, then your unmentionables go black, ejaculate pure lice and plague, then the whole sordid mess drops right off. Luckily my dear prince Albert though afflicted with this vile and unsumptious condition cannot affect thy queen for my vagina is huge and royal good heavens.

But listen to me you little shit if Benjamin Disraeli mentions once more of your frequent aquaintance with Rosy Palms and her five sisters I, befitting this great nation of fish and chips will throw you in a Black Maria and send you to fucking Australia. Try waxing your moustache with an indigenous spear up your arse you lame-armed little cunt. Ooohhhh good heavens I have gone right red in the face I 'ave, so ashamed I am to have such dissapointement in me life :;( Oh well, off to tottenham courts for a day at the races and a pint of gin eh guv ;)
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>>135770276
this is a map discussion forum not a fucking dating site you degenerates
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>>135770514
deport them and fuck off from middle east?..
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>>135763819
I could but it could create undesirable pluralities, as well as forcing the minimum date for entry too much.

I think removing yankees is better. In any case, that isn't really a priority or a concern.

>>135763974
I don't think that because they won the war against the british the other boer nations, which were determined in being independent, would just join up. I think they can already anyway.
So I will leave it as it is.

>>135764009
I remember but I never opened it. Can't be arsed.
I check the files and everything is working as it should AFAIK.

>>135764169
The event also needs a flag from the decision, so there's no way to cheat it IIRC. If you say you did it all legit and they still kept firing, then I need to fix it.

>>135765206
I can't promise I will do it any time soon as I have other stuff down the line but sure.
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I'm off to cook some pasta in the microwave, wish me luck guys.
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>>135771148
Stick some aliuminum foil in there to make sure it heats things evenly
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Does anybody know what happens to the profit a factory earns once its internal coffers are full in V2?
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>>135769562
I'll be cats
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>>135771095
Since I think It's worth checking out I'll copy and paste it here

TL;DR: it's a because of a bug caused by 2 "output" tags that should be "throughput" tags in the game files.
While tinkering with my own custom version of HPM, I happened upon something interesting. This is in Victoria 2's production_types.txt at the start of the RGO section, and it's pretty much identical across all Victoria 2 mods:
RGO_template_farmers = {
owner =
{
poptype = aristocrats
effect = output
}

employees = {
{
poptype = farmers
effect = throughput
amount = 1
}
{
poptype = slaves
effect = output
amount = 1
}
}

type = rgo
workforce = 40000
}

RGO_template_labourers = {
owner =
{
poptype = aristocrats
effect = output
}

employees = {
{
poptype = labourers
effect = throughput
amount = 1
}
{
poptype = slaves
effect = output
amount = 1
}
}

type = rgo
workforce = 40000
}

Part 1/2
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>>135771492
Now, what do these sections mean? Well, they're templates for how RGOs work in Victoria 2: the owner section details the RGO's owner POP and what effect the owner POP has on the RGO (in vanilla, aristocrats improve output), while the employees section details all possible employee types for the RGO and their effects on the RGO. Notice something strange for the slaves entries? That's right, instead of affecting throughput, i.e. like craftsmen for factories, slaves affect output, i.e. like clerks for factories: the efficiency of slaves depends on the throughput generated by the main POP type (farmer or laborer), instead of slaves acting as an actual, alternative POP type.
Needless to say this needs to be changed when striving for historical accuracy; it'd be nice if this were forwarded to the devs as well for integrating into 3.04 (my Paradox forum account has issues). I've uploaded a mini-mod here that contains a fixed version of 3.04 beta's production_types.txt file and nothing else; I can't remember if that file was changed from 3.03 to 3.04, but it should probably work fine for 3.03. Regardless, I'm hoping all the developers of major mods apply the fix, as it's literally just changing two "output" tags to two "throughput" tags.
Two screenshots of my modded HPM comparing world cotton production before (top) and after (bottom) I applied my fix, nothing else was changed between the two screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/W9ONC

Part 2/2
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>>135771492
>>135771658
Reported for spam.
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I want to play a Count to Duke to King campaign in Crusader Kings 2, can someone suggest a good country and starting period to do it in?

I'm looking at France in 1066 but holy shit is everything ruled by a handful of dukes.
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>>135771658
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gda81g4lku2d7sm/SlavePatch_Minimod.zip?dl=0
Minimod link in question
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>>135771983
Last Karling
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>>135771983
1066 scenario, HRE, start as a Hohenstauffen count in Swabia or a Hasburg count in Aargau, the idea is to become as powerful as those houses were historically.
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>>135771492
Already fixed in Vickymod a while back.

t. rob
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>>135771983
find the most shitty count in the HRE, under the shittiest duke, and work your way up.

For fun, invade some shithole like Hungary. Foreign rulers always win.
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>>135772517
This lol

HPM a shit
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>>135771095
Regarding Ireland, Britain already has an option to annex Northern Ireland and puppet Ireland after the Irish War of Independence, although there's no event chain for the Irish Civil War.

Also, could you implement a decision or event for a great power with poor relations with the UK to support Ireland? Historically, the Germans sent guns to the Irish during the Easter Rising, but the shipment was intercepted by the Royal Navy.
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>>135769618

Truman still didn't listen to Patton. We could have put the commies down before 1950 if Patton had his way.
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>>135772517
>>135772687
>exactly 90 seconds of difference
You didn't even try m8, I still like you, Rob.
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>>135771983
>Count to Duke to King

Don't start in France, forcing elective monarchy would make it too easy since HRE will beat the shit out of your king every few years.
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>>135766721
>Habsburg Italy flag
Done.
>Wettin Imperial Germany
Will have to give it some more thought.
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4chan on the left, reddit on the right
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>>135772687
th
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>>135772824
Thanks bruv
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>>135773101
No problem. I really need to play MP with you someday.
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>>135773376
I would play MP if I could get my checksum to match.
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>>135773101
Fuck off Robin.
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>>135773376
>>135773480
speaking of which MULTIPLAYER WHEN REEEEEE
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>>135772517
>>135772687
>>135772824
>>135773101
>>135773376
>>135773480
Fuck off back to your steamgroup
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>>135773546
Fuck off Alpha, no one likes you.
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>>135768219
sounds like a good episode
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>>135771095
Hey, I asked you about the Danubian Federation accepting cultures that declined the formation in the last thread. Would it be possible to implement some way to accept them, or at least some way to influence whether they accept or not? Some luck is fine but its annoying having no control or way to get around something so important.
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I want to conquer Formosa, Fengtian and Heilongjiang prior to westernizing as Shogunate Japan. How feasible is this? While Formosa seems easy enough, seeing as it's an island and lacks Qing cores, I'm unsure about the other two.
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>>135773628
I'm not the one who get's 5 "fuck offs" every time i post :)
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>>135773902
fuck off
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>>135773902
Well sorry, neither am I. And on top of that I'm not an avatarfagging faggot.
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>>135773843
Why would they even do that? the Tokugawa Shogunate was isolationist until Perry arrived, and they only had trade with China, why would they invade anyone and much less a country friendly to them? the more feasible thing I think they might do is trying to imitate Nobunaga and invade Korea.
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>>135774171
>Playing for historical accuracy

Literally why? Just pick up a book you fucking fatass
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>>135774007
Hello unHPM!

>>135774073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww
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>>135774341
>Fuck Off Rob
But I'm not Rob. It's pretty delusional to call every Anon who disagrees with you "Rob", you know?
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zzzzzzz...
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>>135772517
>Already fixed in Vickymod a while back.
Actually rob, according to the last date modified from the files, you fixed it after this same anon reported it to HPM
So you are basically trying to take credit for something a redditor found out and that HPM didn't correct because he doesn't go to reddit, unlike you

That's why no one likes you rob. Trying to steal shit from other people and claim "I did it first" is characteristic of an awful human being
A redditor did it a long time ago, before you, and reported it in his HPM games to reddit then reported here to HPM and then you stole it

btw I compared to the old vickymod version, from march 10th and it wasn't there so it really proves you got it from the redditor
nice to see you mooching off your fixes even from the redditors reporting bugs to HPM, it's real classy
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>>135774581
t. Ben Carson
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>>135771492
>>135771658
I did the tests and he's absolutely right. Sorry I didn't pay the deserved attention to this or the guy, I will fix it.

>>135773745
Someone asked me this a while ago. I'd like to do something about it but deciding when a pop would or not accept something is more complicated since we are dealing with nationalism and a lot of variables. So I will see what I can do.
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>>135774662
t. reddit
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>>135774528
Sure thing Robin.
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Can someone post the current 1836 hpm map? On my phone and need it
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>>135774917
Man, how autistic do you have to be to literally call everyone other than you "Rob" Because as apparent of that poll that's been posted a few days ago no one likes you and everyone thinks alpha is a forced meme.

>>135774961
You mean the F12 one or the province map?
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>>135774801
that big square Frame mod doesn't work, it crashes when selecting armies
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>>135774801
Nah HPM its cool
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>>135775231
Both would be ideal lad
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>>135775231
>what is incognito window

Fuck off Robin, so obvious you spammed votes on that poal.
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>>135774647
The best thing is its not even a bug. Thats how slaves are supposed to work.
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>>135775450
>literally not a single vote for "no"
Yeah, sure, it's cheating.
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>>135774647
In a free market it is better to have competition (such as between rob and HPM) rather than one product (or mod in this case) dominating the market.
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>>135775640
>competition
Only the steamgroup shitters play robmod though
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>>135774647
>>135772517
>rob caught cheating and lying again
WEEEWWW rob, just like mp huh ?
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>>135775640
Applies to grand strategy games and paradox internet in general
>>
rob here
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>>135774801
>So I will see what I can do.

Cheers HPM.
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1-3 Assyricums
4-6 Natal to South Africums
7-9 Central Americums
0 Sleep
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>>135775410
Here you go, lad. Anything else while I still have Vicky open?
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>>135767078
Please respond
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>>135774801
Can you do something about the incorporate Albania into Yugoslavia giving that one Greek province a core? It's really annoying since I only want them to contain the Albania region, and nothing Greek
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>>135772517
>>135774647
If you thought rob couldn't sink any lower, you are wrong
He didn't even put the change in his pastebin in the hopes no would notice him stealing from the people who play hpm, which he loathes so much
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vote
>Poal.me/673smt
>Poal.me/673smt
>Poal.me/673smt
>Poal.me/673smt
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How can I keep my militancy down when westernizing as Shogunate Japan?
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>>135773902

fuck off
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>>135777695
2/2 Also, what are the best conquests research-wise?
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>>135776217
>australia with jagged borders

whhyyyyyy that doesn't even make sense
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>>135767815
It doesn't matter if the people still officially wanted the land back, they signed it away, some in Germany want the eastern territories back but it was signed away.

Infact, some in Ireland today still want NI back, but it was signed away so Ireland no longer has cores there, it was not until article 2 and 3, in 1937, after the game ends that Ireland claimed Northern Ireland was part of Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_2_and_3_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland

So the Anglo-Irish treaty of 1921 should denounce cores and then they get them back in 1937, after the game ends.
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>>135776513
Now I get why everyone hates the guy
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>>135778247
The French signed the Treaty of Frankfurt giving Alsace-Lorriane to Germany after the Franco-Prussian War, but they still kept cores on it.
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>>135775347
You are probably playing with a wrong patch/version combination. Big Square Frame is for 3.04 V7 onwards is for 3.04 only, if you are playing with 3.03 you need older versions.

>>135776487
The albanian/greek cores are always a pain. I considered doing a Republic of Northern Epirus tag just to stop them from fucking with each other so much, but that wouldn't fix Albania.
Anyway I can exclude that one core province from the decision, sure.
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>>135779043
Is it still coming out today, lad?
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>>135779147
>calling HPM lad
GET OUT
OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>135779240
Something wrong with that, lad?
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>>135774961
Here you go.
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>>135779713
>tfw the pacific will never be one massive combined tile
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>>135779019
That was different, that was them signing away territory, the Anglo-Irish treaty was about them recognising the Northern Irish right to self determination, then they fought a war over it and the pro treaty forces won.

So Ireland officially renounced their claim on NI and said they could have self determination, where as in France they just signed away territory to end the war, they never renounced the land or were forced to.
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>>135779713
PNW A SHIT
A SHIIIIIT
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>>135777695
Do it as fast as you can and ignore militancy
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>>135774647
wew

You seem really butthurt over saying I had already fixed something, which I did.

>>135776513
If I put every minor fix in there just to make the changelog look long and impressive, no one would read it. If its something that most people won't notice and that can't be explained in a short sentence, it doesn't need to go in the changelog.
>>
I just saw the 6th Arabian civil war between the Nedj and al-Rashid emirates. Neither one can afford to maintain any army whatsoever and so they just sit around doing nothing until they sign a white peace every time.
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>>135778635
Here lad so you don't forget it
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>>135779147
Well I'm tired and it's getting late so I don't know. I will try.
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>>135778635
>>135776513
>>135775497
>>135775840
>>135773585
>>135780245
>HPM samefagging this hard to defend his mod
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>>135778951
North west of Naples
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>>135780376
Will you add a legitimiste French tag?
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>>135780424
https://youtu.be/h_-qftDlSww
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>>135780039
Nice try trying to evade it
>I did first in my mod
>that's not what I was trying to say when you showed everyone that I'm still stealing stuff from the people I loath without even crediting them

>>135780424
>steals shit
>gets called on it
>get made fun of
>s-s-s-stop samefagging
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>>135779147
>>135780376
Is what coming out today? A new HPM version?
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>>135780684
>people seriously think that game fixes are intellectual property or something

OK HPM, this is enough.
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>>135780515
Hello Cuckgate
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>>135780376
France shouldn't be able to claim the left bank of the Rhine until Nappy III comes to power. One of the principle reasons the Bourbons were allowed to rule again was through them specifically not claiming anything other than their current borders, part of why Nappy won the election was that he'd officially renounce this policy.
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is the east vs. west in the archive any good?
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>>135779896
a shit, you say? does this trip your trigger?
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>>135780089
I like to think there's some guerilla warfare happening there that lasts for decades, where villages from both sides get raided and small forces engage eachother in the desert with no organization, outdated weapons and average leaders, making these engagements action movie-tier battles between few hundreds of Beduins that could easily pass as a free-for-all deathmatch.
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>>135780684
>redditor reports a bug
>its somehow stealing if any mod other than HPM fixes the bug because the redditor was using HPM
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>>135780837
>tries to claim he did it first
>second time ina month he tries to do this
>second time he gets called on it
>f-f-fixes are not intellectual property it's not like it's dishonest to try and take credit for doing it first and not crediting the people who really did or shitposting about a mod and literally stealing every fix from the modder or the people who play the mod
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>>135780376
go to bed you lovely french lady
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>>135781110
He did, literally, fix it first. And he only said "already fixed", didn't take credit for anything.

Holy shit you HPMtards are ridiculous.
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>>135780515
That's actually not that far from Perugia

Hey would you mind if I added you on steam? I would love to have someone to play some gsg with
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>>135779043
I'm playing on 3.04 with the latest version v8, it should work
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>>135781052
>redditor reports a bug
>rob try to claim he did it first
>taking bugs from the people he hate: the HPM players
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>>135781181
>french
I think I figured it out

He used the British spelling of "arse" here, >>135771095
combined with the fact he's on a Western European timezone all signs point to him being a top lad
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>>135781014
I don't get it.

It's a shit because the region map is so shitty.
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>>135781234
>claims he already fixed something
>no one was talking about him
He was obviously trying to say "I did this first" even though he's trying to take credit for some shit he didn't even do
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Hello niggers! How are you faggots doing this pathetically little shit day?
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>>135781398
She's an Anglo-Indian living in Belgium for work.
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>>135781473
>he was obviously trying to say something he didn't say, but I wanted him to say it so I could pretend to "beat" him in an internet arguement and show my loyalty towards m'HPM like the good cuck I am.
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