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Time to find out what broke during maintenance edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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Sorc is future proof
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second for Gabija hottest goddess
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Vote for what type of guild you'll join!

http://strawpoll.me/6148609
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>tfw servers went down when you were a few cards away from rank 6
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Don't forget to take a bath anon, and wash your keyboard if you got the time
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xth for Rogue is super fun
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>>123948761
You have to enjoy it anon. Back in some of the old /vg/ guilds I was in it was always like that too. Some more than others. Enjoy the game for the fun with friends it is, and then roll around in the autism in the thread. Get the best of both worlds. That's why I always join the /vg/ guilds, the ride never ends and it's wonderful.
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>>123948891
You missed your chance at the armband. Maybe next beta.
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nth for use your level 6 cards you doofuses
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>>123948861
If you actually plan to play the game more than 2 months don't play with tosg
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>>123948918
Stop avatarfagging as my waifu OK?
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>>123948998
I'm level 169 with 220 level 6 cards, did I fuck up?
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>>123948830
>Sorc is future proof
Scales with yout INT and every card star is 10% damage increase, trully most futureproof job in Wiz.

>>123948891
>you wake up earlier to grind Prison
>maint just started
>have to go to work later
>mfw
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>>123949128
You got memed.
How many 3-4-5s?
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>>123948992
Its platonic anon
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>>123948918
why is she putting that small tuba in a bathtub?
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>>123949128
You didnt fuck up but you dont have to grind anything anymore. Just go and do all the quests and you'll be 200
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>>123948948
Wise words from anon several threads ago.
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>>123948861
I'm gonna join friends/elitist guild, since my friends are not scrubs.
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>>123948998
I'm just questing, not intentionally saving them. Why would I want to be overleveled for my map
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>>123949207
hey that guy just described ragnarok general.
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>>123948861
>None, I am a lone Kirito is number 2
I thought I was the only one
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>>123948992
They're just GOOD FRIENDS.

Just because you can cut the sexual tension with a knife doesn't mean they're lesbians!
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>>123949207
listen to this man, just browse the threads never actually join a vg guild you'll enjoy the game more
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How many level 7 and 8 cards are actually in the game?
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>>123949207
There's gonna be more than 1 "girl" causing drama that's for sure heehee
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>>123949356
149 level 7 cards and 180+ level 8 cards, I need the exact number for that one
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>>123949207
I mean that's pretty much TFT in Tera.
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>>123949207
Some inevitable, some unlikely. I've never had a grill cause problems in a /vg/ guild, at least not for the actual guild or more than one or two players. The drama will be there but that's the best part. Lunatics on both sides making up insane rumors and speculations about each other. Avatarfags being treated like a mix of celebrities and the kid who just puked all over Christmas dinner. Making some genuine friends then getting called "Cliquey" because you want to play video games with your friends. It's all so wonderful.

Why would you come to 4chan if you don't love autism?
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>>123949442
>girls
>tft

They all joined NFA
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is this thing legit
http://calc.ragnosphere.com/
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>>123949328
You better say hi to me when we all gather for field bosses and not teleport immediately as the cube hits your inventory.
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>>123949494
I never actually knew if there were any girls.

Who were the girls in NFA?
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>>123949540
>not teleport immediately as the cube hits your inventory.
I did that twice today, I guess I'll give you a like next time we meet on the battlefield
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>>123949580
Ask solid, he will list them for you
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>>123949623
So Could, then.
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>>123949207
sort of accurate for rs07g. I've been there religiously for a year and a half and I'm part of an "elitist" chat now since I just wanna be around the people I've known the longest
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>>123949490
sure if your only planning to play for a month vg guilds are great but if you plan to play longer i'd take some casual faggots random guild anyday
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Screw guilds, I'll join one of those permanent parties. Debauchery Tea Party anyone?
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>>123949673
Could, Lewd, and a few others. I think we had like 6 at some point
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>>123949735
LOL
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>>123949735
What is this, a database for ants?
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>>123949712
Which ones are you talking about? Just one example, I played GW2 for something like 5 or 6 months and the guild went strong the entire time. I even led it at one point
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What would the /tosg/ guild emblem be?

I assume if a kissfag got to Templar first it would be two girls kissing
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>>123949735
Im just glad the character limit wont let you do that.
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>>123949830
the popolion kissing emote
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I miss my friend.
Please hurry up.
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>>123949830
Pantsu obviously
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>>123949830
The king with the silver crown
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>>123949830
what about this?
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>>123949830
Something a little meme-y but not too cringe. Depends on the options. I'd be okay with kissing, actually.
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>>123949949
>mfw they allow gifs to be emblems

Might have to make own guild if that's the case.
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>>123949830
An exp card with a letter 'S', which means hope
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>>123950015
well probably make it a normal image of course but the RO kiss emote is a classic
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When do you think people will realize full con wiz is a thing? survivability vs 600 damage.
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I want all girls ITT to promise they won't start any drama in the guild.
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>>123949712
I can say for sure that, though rarely, vg guilds can be fucking amazing. One of the top ones I remember was Warbros. Man that was a fucking blast despite all the shit DE pulled. Sure there was a metric ton of drama but damn I haven't had that much fun with a group of people in ages.
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>>123950086
lol
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>>123950048
an exp card except it says "git gud" instead of EXP on it.
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>>123950086
Depends what kind of Wizard you are. 600 damage is cripping for me, a Pyromancer. That's 600 damage per hit, not just overall and Pyromancers are entirely a multi-hit class.
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>>123950146
pls
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>>123950146
I never reveal that im a girl to anyone on /vg/ or in any /vg/ guild so you have my word it wont be me.
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>>123950146
it wasn't the girls who actually started it. it was their mere presence and the faggots fawning over them
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>>123950086
Survivability vs 600 damage per tic on DoT skills (600*10+)? gee I wonder
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>>123950168
Warbros was too good for its own good. It literally started to crumble under the weight of its own success.
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>>123950146
>implying it's no literally ALWAYS those fucking obnoxious dudes pretending to be gay just to annoy everyone else

nah, you're retarded
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>>123950146
can't we just like, kick all the girls?
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>>123950216
not all wiz have dot
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Chronomancer c1 needs some kind of attack spell.
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is there any reason for a wugushi to use this dagger?
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>>123950086

>-600 dmg from lvl 15 EQ

how you gonna lvl endgame like this?
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>>123950315
If Thaumaturge gets one too then sure.

>>123950345
no
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>>123950285
All the damage dealing Wizard classes have multi hit skills. If you are talking about people going Wiz C3 into Linker C1 into Chrono C2 or some retarded shit, then sure, but Cryo, Pyro, and Elem all get loads of use out of their multi hit skills.
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>>123950345
There is no reason for any class to use that dagger.
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>>123950358
stupid people assuming you'll actually get wiz3
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>>123950345
There is no reason to use those daggers at all over Arde, or if you're Rogue/Corsair Karacha.
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>>123950453
He might think it works the same way as Arde Dagger.
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>>123950393
Thaum at least has damage attributes on some things, and swell arm almost acts like a damage spell. As it stands though you either pick elementalist and commit to it for 3 circles or you are shoehorned into sorc. I just think the wizard tree is laid out all retarded like.
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>>123950401
>thaum
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>>123950345
the only reason to have a dirk dagger is to build a Karacha
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>>123950086
It's a thing when you're a supportive wizard but if you're something like a Pyromancer then you're really hurting your DPS. I could see something like investing a little CON but not full CON. One of my friends is completely supportive and he relies on my DPS to get us by. He's full CON because his damage is shit regardless and he just needs to live.
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>>123950345
Wugu skills are only boosted by elemental stats
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Does every hit of a dot get affected by your attack and flat damage?

I know that buffs such as concentrate affect every hit of bleeds, for example.
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>>123950587
there a specific class build that on my mind that makes you have above average dps while still having con
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do not bully Thaum!

Thaum is love, Thaum is life!
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>>123950572
Since he's Wugu he's probably building one along with the Skull Crossbow then, although he can't use the bonus.
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So what's the alchemist blow up an item skill like?
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>>123950632
Yes. Arde does, get a weapon swap of an empty slot
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Will IMC delete characters once we're in open beta?
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Welp i had to do it. New /tosg/ emblem.

>>123950719
As much as i love thauma, Sorc stole my heart and now i plan Sorc2 instead of Thauma3.
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>>123949618
>I'll give you a like next time

If you do that I'll have to give you a firm, extended handshake and a like back in return.
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So which alchemist skills are worth taking and what does leveling them do? Like I don't understand what leveling awakening us does.
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>>123950779
Do you mean delete open beta characters, or delete closed beta when transitioning?
No
Yes

>>123950796
Not bad.
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>>123950796
b a s e d
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>>123950528
>Thaum at least has damage attributes on some things
Yeah but they're all awful. You're killing things as Thau the same way you would as Chrono; with your pyro / cryo / kino skills.

>swell arm almost acts like a damage spell
Swell arm is very good, but as a self buff it doesn't become noticeable until C2 and when you get lots of attribute levels.

I agree Thau is a bit better off, but not by much. And if you're not c1 Linker with either you're going to be suffering while solo.
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>>123950692
If you are talking about using Transpose with a full CON build then that's just retarded as fuck and a waste of skill points since you could just spec into better stats in the first place.
Honestly there is nothing in the game a lot of CON is useful for. On my Wizards I get around 40-50 CON at lv200 which puts me at about 8.5k total HP before Gems and that's plenty.
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>>123950796
yeah I'm okay with this
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>>123950796
Perfect.
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>>123950907
no, but for the utility.
>gaving trouble surviving specific mapas poof con
>need dps poof int

not everything is about dps
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>>123950997
>not everything is about dps
>playing a dps class and not maxing your dps

come on now
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>>123950796
>arrow is not phallic enough

You had one job, anon.
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>>123951041
I also have a meele wizard build in mind, kek
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>>123951041
A dead powerful DPS is more useless than a good alive DPS.
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>>123950796
I dunno, I feel like sorc as it is now is a one circle wonder. At circle 2 you've ltierally maxed every useful skill, and have 2 skills+points left over (attack ground and summon salamion), of which one is only a one point skill.

I honestly think sorcs current skill set is going to be the one you have for final at circle 1, regardless of what the "you're given access to them all because it's a beta and they want people to test it" comments. If that was the case, why did they make reaching job 15 such a task?

>>123950907
Is that with or without a (max) petamion?
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>>123951041
Remember RO's battle priest? yeah....
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>>123950885
Swell arm with shrink and attributes can really do a lot of damage. Also you can still get +218 damage with maxed attribute on just the buff in c1. It's definitely noticeable.

You're going to take linker regardless, really. That's why I didn't even really factor in Kino. I mean I think c1 elementalist would still be better for just damage while soloing than Kino would be, but I'm just guessing.

See cleric is mostly support with some damage trees, but cleric support also does damage either through autos or mechanics like cure. Wizard tries to have both damage and support trees but the support is entirely support, with no options while soloing. Thaum might be able to use a damage ability, or maybe change shrink to do more damage than just the attribute deals, but I think chrono could use it more, if only to draw people away from sorc and give us variety.
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ToS needs a ring of flame lord like item that let's you trigger the following skills when auto-attacking by chance:

>lvl 5 swash buckling
>lvl 5 blessing
>lvl 5 zaibas
>lvl 5 seism
>lvl 5 fireball
>lvl 1 swell left arm
>lvl 1 swell right arm
>lvl 3 quicken
>lvl 5 ice pike
>lvl 5 fade
>lvl 5 hexing
>lvl 3 smite
>lvl 3 double punch
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>>123951119
>dying

sounds like a personal problem
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>>123950796
now i'm thinking what would they be used for?
what if instead of EXP cards we geth ERP cards for doing quests.
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>>123951086
>melee wizard
wizards are unable to melee without a dagger.
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>>123951131
>Is that with or without a (max) petamion?
I don't have a Peta or anything gear wise that boosts CON. Right now I get around 1k extra HP from gems though so that puts me at 9.5k HP. Honestly though I don't think that extra 1k matters much at all.
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>>123950907
I went Priest3>Diev with Full CON and it works wonders, Just facetanked Ironbaums firebreath, twice. The thing is Blessing+Cafri+Sacr autoattack will fall off around lv130+, doing 1-1,2k per attack is not much later on.

>>123951061
>phallic
W-what are you talking about anon

>>123951203
like kiss tickets?
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>>123951183
So you never get hit even once?
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>>123950907
>8.5k
youre dead when you either lag or lose focus on a f.o.e battle no matter how gud you are
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This is probably a really dumb question but, i cant play the game unless i signed up before, correct? or is there a loophole that isnt stated on their website?
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>>123951274
>getting hit once = dying

?
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>>123951276
Not really, most of them are complete faceroll when you hang back. I'm Sorc/Necro so my pets do a lot of the work.
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>>123951183
If you've actually reached cap then you would know endgame is complete bullshit where you defenses barely matter and you can die in a couple hits. I don't care how good you are, you slip up sometimes.
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>>123951274
hes omnipotent and doesn't experience lag when he dies he blames the none existent lag
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>>123951328
>mineloader
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>>123951326
well on the offchance that you get a key from someone else you could technically be playing but not having signed up, we log in through Steam anyway.
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>>123951349
I have though, mobs just get easier after the dumb wendigo searcher area, nothing even hits me for over 200 dmg anymore, and bosses are all telegraphed as shit so just git gud.
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>>123951274
>>123951276
Those times you fuck up or severely lag out you will be dead even with an extra 4k HP. World bosses hit so hard your defensive stats don't really matter whatsoever.
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>>123951401
no the elites arent aggro so you can just ignore them
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>>123951427
>extra 4k HP
Full CON is way more than that.
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>>123951354
I'm not part of this argument and I think you're all retarded for not just accepting multiple builds, but Mineloader is easy to dodge. Run out when it's purple, play jump rope when it's green, if he stares you down side step. Donezo.
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>>123951465
and they're also easy as fuck and move slow as shit
seriously stop being bad
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>>123951491
Have fun with that.
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>>123951401
>Archers
>Loftlems
>Mages
>Anything with a frontal cone

Anon please
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>>123951401
Corrupted velfiggy says hi
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>>123951565
>moves slow as shit and does no damage

hello?
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>>123951512
sure imagine if all the 8 elite maps are aggro on those maps survive that 8k damage fuckerm youre delusinal
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With 7 or 9 or whatever circles in full game, I wonder if it'll be worth it to take extra levels in wiz.
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>>123951543
Not that guy, but after Wendigo Searchers all the other really strong mobs are either super slow and can be kited forever or have very small HP pools letting you kill them long before they pose a threat. Even Lizardman Magicians aren't really an issue outside of the one quest that spawns a dozen of them ontop of you.
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>>123951657
>I wonder if it'll be worth it to take extra levels in wiz.
It won't be.
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>>123951657
People trying to sort out builds right now are retarded. The only thing you could sort out right now is what would be tolerable to level.
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>>123951657
It's future proof.
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>>123944715
How far are you into this build? I'd like to hear tales of solo suffering.
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>>123951648
k but they do aggro they're just too fucking stupid/weak to do anything to me
if you play a ranged class and ever get hit by those slow ass mobs you're honestly just fucking terrible
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>>123951657
Wiz3 would be great if stuff like Linker or Thaum didn't exist that you could fit into your build instead.
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>>123951729
yeah thats the point the maps past the wizards and searchers are a cake because they are not AGGRESSIVE.
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You know what they need to remove from this game? That thing where a group of enemies ninja you and instantly aggro. It's interesting enough as an occasional thing, part of a quest or something, like how things tend to aggro you whenever you have to interact with something in a quest, but running across a map and having like 11 times where a group of enemies pops up and instantly cast homing bullets that each do like 700 damage gets tiring.
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>not just partying with a tank friend all the time to get the shit kicked out of him for you
I don't even have to be good nigga, I'll just sit over here and wreck shit.
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>>123951781
They are.
They seem like they aren't but it's just that once they aggro they take forever to do anything about it, and when they do you've already walked past them.

Not to mention they are just weak in general, you can easily farm them without taking much damage.
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>>123951839
The homing bullets annoy the shit out of me.
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>>123951176
Yeah the wizard support classes actually feel like a committal toward supporting compared to the cleric classes for sure.

Honestly you could get away with going Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Thau > Chrono. I played pyro / linker / thau to 185 or so, and fireball / flame ground against linked enemies just carries so hard. Since they're both multihit you get tons of mileage out of Arde Dagger and other elemental damage gear.

I haven't played an Ele yet, so I don't know if C1 would really help you that much, but I do know that pyro/linker is enough to get you by if you plan on playing purely support.
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Log in now
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>>123951869
yeah but they are easily Isolated because the others wont actually attack you if you are already fighting 2 but if everything if aggro on those maps bye bye health
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>>123951839
you know what they really need to remove? that retarded thing where the enemy runs away at the speed of light when they're about to die.
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>>123951708
>build balancing in an MMO

We know the numbers change, anon, but things like animation feel don't.
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>>123951987
>bye bye health

are you just facetanking them without doing anything?
kill them you fucking shitter
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>>123950086
survivability for what exactly? pvp?
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>>123951971
But I can't
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Apparently Archer and Wizard classes don't play well with a controller but I haven't had any issues.
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>>123951839
>homing bullets

This is the worst thing in TOS by far. I've gone as far as reporting it as a bug but I doubt they'll pay much attention.
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>>123951839
You mean when you finish a quest and then it dumps you into the middle of 15 mobs?
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You know what they need to remove? IMC, and get a developer that can make a game that runs well on a system with something better than a Pentium 4.

>mfw getting 15fps in fucking town on a 980ti and i7
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>tfw swordsman
>tfw 13k hp with no con

I wish I could take that hp away and make it into damage, there's no reason to have so much HP.
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>>123951949
I know Pyro damage is actually super good right now, I just have a hate boner for the typical fire mage class. I don't even know why. I have to like the class thematically, you know? Normally I wouldn't have a problem with the commitment that Wizard support takes, but you can't always be partied and with the assumed exp rates on launch shit will get very tedious very quickly.
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>>123952039
as I TOLD 1V1 is FUCKING PISS EASY when theres fucking 8 running after you then your gonna be in trouble try luring 8 elites then record it on a webm
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>>123951997
I thought I was the only one bothered by this. Still, I don't want it removed from the game, those bullshit quests you get after 100 on the other hand
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>>123952146
>1v1
>implying I can't hit 8 mobs at once

what?
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>>123952073
It's easier to select targets and aim ground target skills with a mouse, but that's about it.

>>123952117
I wager the lag in the town is caused by all those shop bubbles. Their UI is terribly inefficient.
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Greetings to our fans.

We are pleased to share with you that TOS is nominated in MMOSITE READERS' CHOICE AWARDS for [Best Graphics], [Best Soundtrack], [Most Anticipated] and [Favorite MMORPG] categories.

You can vote at the link below.
http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/

We would be delighted to see our fans vote for TOS. :smile:

Thank you.
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>>123952117
I heard ToS only uses 1 core of your cpu.
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>>123952117
Everyone floats and aren't actually running on the terrain. Truly amazing.
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>>123952195
then do it on elites, since youre so proud of it
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>>123952117
Dude I have a 970 and meme prison district 2 is fucking unplayable unless I turn down all the settings. What a fucking joke.
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>>123952073
Wiz is great with controller. But sometimes skills like Phillar fail and i just can't place them ffs. Also Summon skills require asdfg in order to be used.
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The number of channels for every field except for the tutorial area have been changed to 2. (Added)
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>>123951997
>prepare to unleash my overkill
>fucking mobs run away
>piercing/stabbing into nothingness
every single time
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>>123951997
That's fine as long as they don't +30000 themselves back to full hp. It makes sense for them to run away sometimes. I like how enemies are fairly good about running to heals laid out for them too. What they need to do is fix that invincibility buff they get when they bolt from an npc. They either get stuck in aggro and run back and forth or they pile up and get stuck and invincible.

>>123951997
Why is it bothersome? That they run so quickly?
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>>123952251
I have?
Why are you in such disbelief?
Maybe try actually fixing your build instead of trying to bandaid fix it by removing your damage and putting it all into hp.
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>>123952224
But it's a beta
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>>123952140
> I have to like the class thematically, you know?
Definitely. Nothing you can really do about that, I just hope it works out for you in the end.
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>>123952117
Its a CBT what are you expecting, an extremely optimised game? You realise we're the testers (toasters) right?
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>>123952073
Eh, I'm a pyro and I've used a DS3 exclusively the entire time and it feels fine.

The only thing I ate and I don't know if this is a controller thing is when you press the skill button and it doesn't do the fucking skill. Like your character just half does the animation and nothing fucking happens.

That shit happens ALL the time for me and it's infuriating when you're trying to time shit with your links.
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>>123952325
>I can't place them

This shit happens to me so often it's not even funny. Pressing enter aolves this, though
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>>123952369
need webm not replying until you
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>>123952396
Thanks anon. I'm holding out for what the new classes look like, then I'll see what I can do. I'll tolerate grinding a lot more in full release too, where things are permanent. I just wish we had more options.
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>>123952105
I hate that so much, but I mean when you're running around and like 3 guys pop out of the ground and attack. If they can fire range, they fire those stupid bullets you can't avoid and get free hits on you.
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>>123952415
>Like your character just half does the animation and nothing fucking happens.
>That shit happens ALL the time for me and it's infuriating when you're trying to time shit with your links.
this happens sometimes when the skills icon doesn't go on CD even though its supposed to, the character still does the animation but nothing happens. Happens for Druid and transform/shapeshift.
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>>123952439
I have problems with this in prison, also fireball sometimes when its superlaggy , flame ground works always.
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>>123952462
how about a webm of you farming for more than 5 mins with your epic hp pool

if you're taking so much damage in the first place it won't help since HP pot regen is shit and not gonna outheal that damage.
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>>123952224
I want to mate with Kate, all year-round.
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>>123950528
>As it stands though you either pick elementalist and commit to it for 3 circles or you are shoehorned into sorc. I just think the wizard tree is laid out all retarded like.
holy fuck this

with shooter getting nerfed, you can see how bad the wizard tree is, even more if you want to go dps
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>>123952546
webm
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>>123952413
>Its a CBT what are you expecting, an extremely optimised game?
Even a somewhat optimized game would be better than what we have now. I've played many Korean/TW MMO betas and this is by far the worst of them all. This game doesn't run well even if you have the most beast of systems. A guy with a 980ti should be getting at least a solid 60 everywhere, hell even a solid 45 everywhere. I don't see how that's an unreasonable expectation.
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>>123952608
webm
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>>123952564
Yeah she's pretty smokin'
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>>123952486
Not going to lie, with the rates as t hey are right now boosted, I can see the game dying really quickly. I'm shocked that I'd actually think rates even lower than what they were before (if they were 3x, maybe 2x then) would make the game better.
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>>123952564
When she's at the proper age right
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>>123952654
webm
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>>123952654
>>123952608
Now kiss.
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>>123952303
District 2 is the fucking worse when you get a packed room. I don't think ANY system could run that room well on max settings.
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>>123952607
>Wizard tree is bad

laughingpyrolinkers.png
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>>123952303
>>123952756
my parties would always joke around about who could get the least FPS in District 2
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>>123952680
It's the same as eating unripe fruits. They are also delicious.
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>>123952413
Oh yeah they're going to drastically recode the game and optimize the shit out of it between now and open beta. That shit's going to totally happen. So what will be the excuse when the game is out and it still runs like this? How it is now and how it's pretty much how it's going to be. You know it, I know it.
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>>123952679
Are you saying the game would die if the release rates were as high as they are right now?
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>>123952756
Did you try putting the game on Low Performance mode?

That usually makes it acceptable for me.
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>>123952415
That's lag, not the controller. Also if you transition zones sometimes it will say your skills are off cooldown even if they aren't, then you'll do the half animation too.

>>123952679
Why do you say that? I think a maybe 65% of what we have now would be good. This is if they make the early tiers like bokor 1 that are just fucking suffering more entertaining/playable. People don't want to grind these days, at least not too much. With how dungeons are spread out and experience works, they're going to have to be very delicate with how they space out the time:reward deal.
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>>123952706
kek the drama is real
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>>123952680
Kate is like 500 years old
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Greetings to our fans.

We are pleased to share with you that TOS is nominated in MMOSITE READER'S CHOICE AWARDS for [Best Graphics], [Best Soundtrack], [Most Anticipated] and [Favorite MMORPG] categories.

You can vote at the link below.

http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/

We would be delighted to see our fans vote for TOS. :)

Thank you.
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>>123952778
they will get nerfed right?
it's unfair that only one setup can solo everything.
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>>123952413
nigga this company couldn't even fix the bullet bug.
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>>123952607

>wizard tree is bad

10k lvl 15 EQ says something different.
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>No Geomancer
>No Aeromancer
>No Hydromancer

>Elementalist not being a hidden class for when you have all 4 base elemental classes
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>>123952680
Takane worst idol.

>>123952865
She's not that old because she doesn't grow. She's old in the same way as if someone were frozen and thawed out a millennium later.
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>>123952918
For the last time, the bullets were placeholder, god damnit.

The traps probably are, too.
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>>123952791
Yeah, better grab them before they get too ripe
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>>123950168
>>123950235
Nah they were still your run of the mill fags, but at least they played the game well.

I ran into you niggers in not one, but TWO shitty games since I decided to try firefall right around the time you cockbaskets invaded. But really it only felt like you guys were "good" because the games were so bad and playerbase so dead.

Mostly I hated you because you used bro in your name. Guess what OTHER shitty top warframe guild used bro in it's name.
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>>123952892
At least vote for Best Soundtrack
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>>123952918
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>>123952818
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>>123952941
>10k lvl 15 EQ
Only 10k?
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>>123952897
Are you talking about barbs?

laughing pyrolinkersorcs.webm
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>>123950528
I went psycho3 into alchemist fuck bitches get riches
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>>123952968

>such hard bug
>very complicated
>please understand
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>>123952941
You got me again.
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>>123952946
>no Electromancer
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>>123952968
>seems to not easy
Oh fuck. Maybe relying on a developer who's biggest credential is a 2003 game was a bad idea.
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>>123952962
I was only in Warbros very, very briefly. I wasn't serious enough about the game to really fit in. You can't really deny their success though.
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>>123952993
Use fucking link with earth attib for dem Overkills.
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>>123952897
Yea, along with sapper broom trap and sorc summons.
Cleric heals need to be nerfed on the caster to be half too.
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>>123952842
If the game were released as it is right now, except with market and party creation fixed so that they don't fuck up every week, yes.

>>123952851
Being able to reach rank 6 in something like a week of play (sure, it might be more playtime in that duration than a common person, but still), where there's no endgame content to actually do either solo or in a party is not a good practice. You can do a dungeon twice a day for a .5% chance at a rare drop, whoopdi doo.
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>>123952670
pity reply to my own bad joke
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>>123953065
They aren't relying on a developer, they are the developers. Get it straight.
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>>123952993
>linker3
>link 10 enemies
>attribute to make earth do more damage
>hangman and hit with earthquake
Overkills anon.
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>>123953043
Pyromancer + Aeromancer should unlock Electromancer, just like Cryomancer should be unlocked with Aero and Hydromancer
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>>123953097
But I'm not joking when I said I wanted to mate with Kate.
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>>123953115
I'm talking the players you moron.
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>>123953068
That was kind of their problem.

They were TOO obsessed with that "success." Which mostly came down to efficient grinding in both games. They were all gloryhogs and that shit never works out in the end.
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>>123953189
It's not terribly difficult to be efficient in Warframe, is it?
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I hear this game runs like shit. Does that mean my 960 SLI setup won't do anything?
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>>123953170
I never said you were!
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>>123952120
Swordsman have the highest HP scaling because they garner the lowest common denominator. The babies would be losing their shit at how much everything sucks if they died in 2-3 hard hits like other classes, even though they forget that they have dash for a reason.

>>123952842
There's not much to do at 200 unless you like waiting 4 hours for FOE respawns.
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>>123952957
>prease understand, we could totally fix it we just conveniently decided to remove them after this game breaking bug appeared
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Doesn't the KR client have like none of these bugs?
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>>123952339
I want to sexually fuck illya.
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Maintenance delayed?
It's 20mins past the forecast!
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>>123953241
>SLI
I would be stunned if this game supported SLI. Fucking stunned.
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>>123953081
Oh well obviously in its current state it would die right away. I'm saying 65% based on the fact that there's going to be 600 levels, not 200, and 10+ ranks rather than 6. Look at the enormous difference in how long it takes to get class levels between ranks as it is now. Now imagine the difference at rank 8 or 9. People need long term goals, but they need to be able to actually achieve those goals too.
It's not like this is some early release under the excuse of an open beta either. I don't think it even has a release date in Korea and they're way ahead of us. It's an actual "please test our game, it's so shit broken right now" beta. I wouldn't be too concerned about stuff like that in the final release.

This is also why arguments about Arde Dagger and other gear are stupid. We're all gearing up like twinks and treating it as endgame. Arde Dagger is the defias set of ToS.
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>>123953162
What game is this and why is Water good against Lightning?
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>>123952946
>Aeromancer
Cyro 2(gust) + psychokino 3(pressure and raise)

>>123953043
Psychokino + elementalist. Well it's more like electromagnetism, but still.

>Hydromancer
There aren't even seperate water(or wind) elements

>>123953162
>Lightening
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>>123953226
At the time I was playing it hell the fuck no. You just had to know how to copter or other mobility tricks. "Grinding" essentially meant cheesing through the entire mission without killing shit because normal mobs were pointless. You spent more time loading than actually playing. Then the game got all stupid, but I bailed way before DE ever even thought of selling it to perfect world.

At least mag was fun ragdolling entire rooms for infinite damage.
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>>123953365
yeah, thats why you lazy asses need to actually report what you find
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>>123953365
Also has more features.
We're basically playing their 2nd beta.
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>>123953409
Korea has an open beta starting when our closed beta ends.

I would not be surprised in the slightest for the open beta to transition into a release.
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>>123953369
Doesn't it come back in half an hour?
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>>123952965
>Best soundtrack
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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>>123953162
Can I be a metal and plant wizard?
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