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Half our skills don't work properly edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>123911573
First for bokors.
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>>123911573
So what do the paladin's non-battle clothes look like?
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cattly a qt
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>>123911408
probably, you don't have to go to 166, that's just the most efficient thing to do. There's always the 175 dungeon you can do to get more levels even though it's kind of bad exp wise, you just need to reach the 186 curve reset and everything is gucci.
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>>123911891
>>123911897
Where are you so I can bully you
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>>123911231
Nuale doesn't seem finished. Not only does she not have any abilities but when I ride her my camera centers weirdly, like you can see in the webm. I'm starting to think they intentionally made TS the best choice so people would use it, since a lot of other cards aren't finished/broken.

>>123911445
New character
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>>123912003
I'm in Kvailas Forest right meow! I'm trying to get an actual combat class to the area with desert chupacabras so I can grind them out easier.
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モンストランス
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>>123912206
If only you could smack shit with it
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What now?
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>>123912206
>they said I could become anything so I became shield
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>>123911841
I didn't grind until demon prison at all. All I did to get that far was to:

>Do quests
>Use cards when I was more than 6 or 7 levels below a map
>Do dungeons for 15 levels(50 to 65, 90 to 105, 130 to 145)

I did not grind at any place before demon prison, just played it a lot smarter than my first character.

>>123911921
Access to the 175 dungeon as soon as possible is better than maximizing my stay in Demon Prison.
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>>123911327
I don't know, but I tried monk to avoid pala C2 shit and ended up with a different type of shit.
Guess idk what I would be doing for Plague Doc. Now I'm just thinking about Druid to "fix" the pala->monk shit, 'cause kamehameha is also another shit.
And everything was fine until Rank 5 with Priest/Pala1.

>>123912375
Tell me how is shape shifting.
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So bets on what they'll break on the last week of the beta
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>>123912604
my heart
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>>123912390
>>123912206
Thaum appreciation thread.
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>>123912521
Druid is pretty underwhelming. Carnivory is like a giant Cure, except it hits 30 times spread out to everything on top of it and it cant hit flying. Transform and Shapeshifting are both buggy and kind of bad, there are some really useful transformations though like Pantos which gives you access to a massive speed boost.

Invincibilty grass is actually kind of fun but you still get knocked around, it doesnt block the damage.
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>>123911408
It would seem at first you don't have enough but... according to this you do

That said, even at lvl 190+ if you can leave there you'll have some exp missing so you should spend it at trees where the getting is good.

Your quest list for L8 cards is missing 3. (190 total)

That said, save yourself some hell later and just grind there a bit more than that level, trees2 is good grinding so I would suggest staying there at least 5 levels.
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>>123912521
Didn't use it much since only 8 class levels and I maxed out Carnivory first

I guess the attributes can be really good for some combinations, like evasion and bonus damage for Sadhus and crit rate if you went Monk>Druid

Almost none of the enemies you can transform to have useful abilities, it's usually just their basic attack. They sometimes have spells that straight up crash your game, too.

Some have a heal that you can use endlessly with no cooldown and pantos have a speed buff that makes you super sanic
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>>123912761
I decided to pop my cards now. Getting access to the 175 dungeon is great, and I want to get to Falconer as soon as possible, too.

200 is jsut a bonus.
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>>123912965
well go tell us if it works out then I guess
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>>123912761
How many level 6 cards are there
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>>123912750
>>123912801
Nice. One more broken class to the list.
The game is ready for OBT, guys.
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>>123912965
That's a mistake. 175 dungeon is barely a level of experience forboth runs.

You also would run yourself out of the range of 2nd demon prison experience thus screwing yourself out of one of the better leveling spots.

If you did do this I recommend: Minos (but there are HARD hitting mobs on the map), Roxona Market (mainly for money though), errr and I thin it was Istora was pretty good.

If you can take REALLY hard hits, you can do Roxona East.
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>>123912801
That being said there will probably be a combination of classes, gear and transformations in the real game that is super broken, no way will they actually balance mob skills well

The attributes give a ridiculous amount for the entire duration of the transform, like +75% max health
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>>123913158
I have no idea sorry, unfortunately on my list I just started listing what maps give what level cards at Lv8 cards, I'm not even half done with my experience card guide
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Hw do we revive /rog/ back to life?
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>>123910157
Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.

>>123913207
It's worth it, I do it even though I can't kill the bosses (always die to some bullshit when I'm almost done killing it). If you're solo caster, take it one set of spawns at a time. If you're anything else, I have no advice because I only have one char who can do it who is a sorc.
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>>123913431
ehh, even if they nerf Arde all that'll do is nerf the early game for most classes. People will just get a Karacha dagger later
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>>123912423
Please post your results, am very eager myself to try out a tank if Alchemist and Linker falls through in kOBT.
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>>123913245
and +100% evasion.
Does the AA works with memeset/sacra/memedagger procs?
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Leather mastery add evasion, Plate adds hp, what does Cloth add? Mdef?
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>>123912097
The 2nd spell you did is super good, it sucks in most monsters on your screen like a super AoE Ice Pillar.
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>>123913503
assuming sadhu aa, yes

also every proc of carnivory, zaibas, cure and possession
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>>123913431

>shit

if the damage formula stay working as today, even if they nerf the fire dmg to 30 ppl would still use it
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>>123913236
>>123913207

175dung isnt that bad

it gave about 40% a run. solo. at 180+. before event
and except archer mobs, stuff is easy to solo
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>>123913431
>Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.
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>>123913708
>rolling an archer
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>>123913794
But muh chaika
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>>123913931
Chaika class when?
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>>123913708
>memecher
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>>123914019
>open beta
>yfw dragoon, plague doctor and musketeer sucks
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Post cute doppels pls
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>>123914321
What is Featherfoot supposed to do anyway?
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>>123914321
jokes on you

i'm going memenobi
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>>123913431
>Arde'll be nerfed to shit by release.

No it wont. Why do you believe they'd nerf one item with elemental damage when tons of them exist? Karacha dagger is even easier to obtain than Arde, it's just higher level. If you think they're going to nerf every similar item then you are seriously overestimating how much Korean devs care about balance.
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Please kiss me!
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>>123914464
Life drain.
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>>123914476
What if shinobi is an int class.
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>Accidentally hit Swashbuckling while using a two-hander
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>>123914321
That's the secret of this game: All the classes suck.
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>>123914321
You can already say which class potentially sucks if they didn't have a multi hit in the trailer.
Featherfoot for example is probably going to be decent, with two short cd multi hit spells
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featherfoot + thauma's int&con reverse skill how OP would that be
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It took me a bit to make the webm because my computer was in japanese-mode because of VNs. Had to restart it and then I went to eat.

I hadn't bought any health upgrades yet as you can see in the webm, but I would have over 32k hp with all of the upgrades.

I don't think the attacks got any damage boost from hexing aside from the normal magic defense reduction since it usually does 515 damage for each hit. I thought it would do a lot more since hexing gets that attribute, but I assume that only works for effigy right now.

My gear also isn't optimal for this kind of transformation, I'm sure if I had all the damage related gear like the awakened stuff I could do a lot more, and I'm sure any ghost mobs would die pretty fast.

This seems like the only useful transformation for combat that I've found so far, any other druids should help me look for more. I looked in one of the later areas again for a non-elite large mob to transform into, and the only other one I could find was the rubabos, and its attacks only hit once.

I also went and bought sacrament and blessing from a pardoner and tested them out with the 3 hit attack. Sadly it does not add an extra hit.
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>>123914712
str/int hybrid

hoplite attribute suddenly has a meaning

desu i have no idea, really need some info on the skills to see what could actually synergize with it
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What kind of staff should I buy my level 62 Bokor? I've got 50k to spend
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>>123914825
Musketeer will be god tier, then.
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>>123914901
>Swell Head
>Blood Suck
I wonder how much of a hickey that would leave
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Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Squire, Necromancer, Sapper.

Not a virgin tier: Rogue, Bokor, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner*, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

All you cuties deserve much love and kisses!
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>>123914971
So what do you think about going all STR/DEX/CON Cleric>Krivis>Bokorc3>Druid, making an army of the undead, and just joining in the fray with them?
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>>123915120
Which head are you talking about ;)
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I want Chronomancer to be good. Can you reincarnate bosses? What can back masking reverse?

I just really really want it
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>>123915307
PvP class
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>>123912110
Anon I'm not selling them, I'm giving them away. Do you still want them?
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>>123915203
The 3 hit attack on the big black griba is a magic attack, so what you really want is a good mix of int and con, but that at least lets you only deal with 2 stats instead of one.
It would be a great idea honestly if only zombies didn't do so pitiful damage outside of bwa kayiman, I think they still only do around 150 every bite, no matter what my strength is.

At max level spirit is also extremely important for the zombies, I think they get killed in 2 or 3 hits with the 20 spirit I got when I rerolled my stats.
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>>123914825
It's so funny that they parade balance, but this is literally what it comes down to.

It either needs to multihit or have a stupid high hidden multiplier to be worth a shit.
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>>123915390
no pls
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are there quests in the crystal mine secret zone?
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>>123915506
Yes
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>>123915437
>At max level spirit is also extremely important for the zombies

that's what I've been fucking telling people all day, I swear if it's not an absolutely MANDATORY stat to nearly max out on a Bokor c3. Wouldn't you think you should max SPR and like, INT on a cleric>krivis>bokor3>x? Maybe Druid for invuln and Carnivory? Which doesn't even SCALE with INT?
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i'm the only retard that has a lot of cards, did the demon grind until 167, had 147 lvl 7 cards, lots of lvl 8 but still only pops cards to stay in the same level as the mobs of the maps?

i fell that if i pop everything, i'll ruin the fun
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>>123915878
Yes
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I might have found the purpose of the stone in Spring Light Woods.
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>>123915390

>dispeller scrolls
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>>123916000
there's one with fishing rods and another one I think
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I need a meme dagger. Help.

Poor Sadhu on market channel 5.
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>>123914698
Fuck off you retarded fat shitnigger.
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>>123913708
>only useable by archer class
>level 170 req
OK I admit that 272 lightning attack is pretty absurd (and it has 19 earth awakening),

>>123914686
Because unlike the 170 stuff, it's accessible early with a 'good' drop rate (though karacha apparently drops alot, I've seen people wanting to sell recipes for 400k), and near on doubles your damage on lower damage multihit moves.

The awakening system just needs an overhaul to be more relevant I think.
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>>123915819
If hex and effigy even worked correctly int would also be really good with bokor because of the multiplicative effect of the third hit. Zaibas, cure, effigy, and carnivory all scale with int so I'm honestly glad I went with this reroll and pumped into int, since it makes me much more powerful than just a slightly beefed up double punch.

It might be worth it for some to pump con, spr, and int on a build like mine if they want more survivability for their zombies over themselves, I just want to see how tanky I can get myself with this big black griba transformation though. a 75% max health boost is huge when I have 18k base health.

I still agree with some that strength and dex is important for bokors though, at least while you're grinding at the demon prison. You should definitely give yourself around 100 spirit while grinding their though so harugals don't destroy them. Rerolling once you get out of the demon prison grind is probably the best thing to do, especially since you would become a druid after that.
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>>123916000
I've tried donating to it with no results. Please share if you find anything interesting. I gave 5 and was unable to do anything to talk to it after and noticed no buffs on me or in the area.
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>>123916212
I'm soloing it right now. If I get one after I do the 5 runs I'll give you one.
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>>123916153
Yeah, it's either timed, or you just have to sit near it for a while. The 20 fishing rod one gave a buff that's like +100 defense for 30 minutes... there's little use for it on that map (and fishing rods are pretty rare, getting 20 was suffering).
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>be wiz3 ele3
>feel horribly jealous of anyone who is a Linker
this game just promotes envy
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>>123915201
Where do I fall? I assume the asterisks on Pardoner mean the same as last time.
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>>123914674
Didn't noticed the last thread was about to die.
This is basically the last question for me about this game until the OBT, I guess.
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>>123916385
into the fat autistic shitter tier.

Fuck off
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>>123916236
how do you know those scale with INT? Where's it say that?

Also will we be able to re-roll stats in the full release game?
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>>123916304
May the RNG smile on us.
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>>123916349

i'm going linker at my r6, kek
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>>123916385
shitstain tier
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>>123916476
I don't know if it says anywhere on the skill but I've noticed a significant boost in damage after pumping int for all those attacks and the attack on the big black griba.
We also might be able to reroll in the final release, but it'll probably be a cash shop only item.
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are blue classes supposed to be bad?
>tfw no blue rank 5-6 class
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anyone have the gem chart?

>>123916000
there is one in fedi sub that wants zolem cores, gives a 5 minute attack buff or something, farmed 50 cores and donated randomly
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>>123916385
Kill yourself.
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>>123912446
>Do dungeons for 15 level
>I did not grind

Well, I mean, that's kinda a grind man
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>>123916426
There is no best card, the differences are incredibly minor as things are. Maybe when the four slots are used for mix-and-match like intended, but as things are just use whatever
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>>123916556
>>123916472
>>123916741
Friendly reminder that the harshest insult to an attention whoring shitter like Cattly is to ignore them completely.

Stop taking the bait.
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What was the point of people just jumping around while kiting mobs in dungeons. They still get hit
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>>123916905
animation cancelling, you need to jump around as a wizard if you want to auto attack because your backswing is long
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>>123916978
A Squire was pulling mobs for us and instead of just taunting and containing them in a small circle it was just pure chaos with him jumping around
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>>123916878
I see, thanks.
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How is Saule?
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>>123917073
then he's just dumb
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>>123913236
>>123913431
>>123913680
Guys, don't forget that the exp is kinda shit because you are almost at the top of the curve.

That menas that the lv175 actually gives GREAT exp lv 186+ because of the reset, even though, at that level, each monster only gives about 70% of its exp.
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>>123917108
loose
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>>123916905
If you kite properly you won't get hit. Jumping let's you cancel animations so you can still do your normal damage while moving around constantly if you do it right.
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>>123917182
Oh thank you very much I often forget this.
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>>123915201

Dicksize tier when
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>>123917108
Full of BRs, why do you ask?
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>>123916879
>calling it by its name
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>>123917271
jumping is dumb, just stutter step. stutter stepping wizard lets you auto faster than jumping and you don't look as dumb doing it.
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>>123917182
I take that into account when I do it, but it takes ages to run because I'm incapable of killing the bosses at the end due to my ping meaning by the time they give me a notice for when to evade, they've already hit me before I'm out of range. I've yet to get talt from a box as a result since I just abandon the dungeon after all my gear breaks.
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>>123917460
BR's are not always that bad though... are they?
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>>123917609
>stutter stepping wizard lets you auto faster than jumping
How would you cancel the animation that way? I messed around with it for a bit just now but it doesn't seem possible. Could you record a video of you doing it?
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>>123917524
My mistake, anon, thanks for reminding me.
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>>123917073

>taunting and containing them in a small circle

You are a wizard aren't you? You can get killed easily if you stay in one place, even if you guard. You are supposed to jump-attack them and try to contain the mob. Also most mobs will miss attacks if you jump-attack over them.

If it was pure chaos he was shit though
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>>123916385
higher than slut
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>>123917760
It's pretty fucking awful.

t. someone dumb enough to still be playing on Saule
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>>123917609
Jumping cancels animations for enchant fire, swell left/right/body, and reflect shield. Stutter stepping is faster for normal attacks though.
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I think somebody bought my memeed Rune Mace with a pic of Grita on it for 600k
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I didn't know I was going to make it ;_;
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>>123916494
Sorry Anon, 5 talts.
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>>123916385
you are successful Bait Tier. congratulations
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>>123918331
It's fine, you tried for me.

Back to public spam i guess...
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>>123918469
Name?
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>>123918271
buy warp scrolls for the other areas roll out
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DULLAHAN CHANNEL 1 GET IN HERE
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>>123916472
I'm underweight for my height though!

>>123916556
>>123916741
>>123917993
Please don't be mean, I just want to be kissed.

>>123918405
I'm not baiting anynyan, silly!
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>>123918530
My TM is Hearn.

I feel like a dagger would help, not even sure.
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Post your likes!
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>>123918920

70
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>>123918920
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>>123918660
Where does he spawn usually?
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>>123918920
>>123918982
>>123918985
I wonder if I only have 6 likes because I'm a bokor and rarely party with people. ;_;
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>>123919074
>be Sadhu
>somebody asks me what Sadhu does
>show them OoB
>get a like
>repeat everyday
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What the fuck does this mean? I can't log on now. Is their patch server fucked or something?
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>>123919260
Sounds like a DNS problem, flush cache maybe?
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Is farming arde dagger the fastest way to make money? Attributes are costing me a fortune.
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>>123918920
D-Do I win?
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>>123919481
farm world bosses, make millions off the overpriced recipes, Arde is as low as 400k nowadays when your attributes can start to cost up to 300k each
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>>123919260
Most likely a DNS issue, see if you're having an issue with DNS anywhere else (try going to purple.com, ibm.com, a few other sites it would have to resolve and you haven't been to recently) if issue is DNS, check if specified on both PC and router, if in router contact ISP if in PC note down what you had and try removing it then putting it back.

>>123918815
You are literally better off purchasing one and making money by farming to pay it off. The time invested in runs/etc, just isn't worth the trade off.
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release date when?

i want to actually play
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>>123918920
I don't have many likes because I'm not a slut.
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>>123919492
W-woah... slut
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>>123918920
i have 78, not even trying
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I am quickly approaching the point where my pet's usefulness will plummet, thanks to level gap.

Maybe if I dump enough money in its evasion, perhaps it won't die too easily?
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>>123919787
cant you just growl everything?
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>>123919563
You know, I noticed that Gabija sells Ardes for 400k, but Laima has them around 500-600k usually. But Gabija is more expensive for basically everything else
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>>123919787
Unfortunately they're meant to level with you if you actually level and don't gain almost solely from EXP cards, what a bummer. My pet was actually outleveling me when I was doing 2nd prison after awhile, now he's back down to completley useless as I'm 181 and he's stuck at 155.
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>>123919787
are you gonna falconer at r6?
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>>123919871
Damage is not the problem because Rush Dog ignores all defense.

The problem is that when pets die, their STA goes to 0, and their AI gets even worse. They turn lazy and unresponsive, not to mention slow.

>>123920028
Yeah, this is a really serious issue. Hunter is probably the #1 worst class to make as your first character for that reason.
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>>123919563
I can't even afford my attributes that cost 60k and take an hour to learn. I can't earn the money fast enough to constantly learn them.
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I like the friend I met in ToS very much, but I wonder if they see me as being that important in their life. Probably not.

I get really lonely in MMOs sometime.

/blog
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party quests from Fedimian actually give great exp!
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>>123920342
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>>123920205
how come? wouldn't levelling your pet from the start be good?
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>>123920192
Yes, this is the standard Beastmaster build.

Would not recommend unless your pet isn't already at least 140 or 150 before you make the character.
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>>123920453
Because your exp card exp and such doesn't factor into what the pet gets so you'd outlevel the fuck out of it.

Instead, you use a different character to level the pet then transfer it to your Hunter character.
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I'm thinking of what I'll play after this character is done. Might make something that mounts or a hunter or something. Does the hawk work with that?I have a velheider but I want to be a special snowflake. I hope there are better options at release. Maybe have some be world drops.
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>>123919074

half of my likes comes from the "wow cryomancer is so cool" effect

bitchies loves my snowball, tree and psychic pewpew
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>>123920453
You get the pet at rank3, around lvl 50. By the time you get him, he's already hopelesly low level.

He also doesn't benefit from your EXP jumps when using cards. Every time you use a card, you're leaving your pet behind.

I started this hunter when my Velhider was 133. he's 170 now. Had I made him around high 150s, he'd probably be relevant all the way to 200.
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>>123919439
>>123919649
I totally forgot that I cleared out my DNS for some reason, I normally use Google's. Looks like my ISPs DNS are taking a nosedive, once I switched them back to Google's everything is peachy keen and I connected instantly.
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>>123920453
Hunters were fucked from the start
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>>123920662
You can only use the Falcon as Falconer. They don't even let you buy it if you don't have Falconer in your build.
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I feel like alch jewing is essentially at its limit for this beta, basically all the low level areas have nobody, same for most of the high level areas. If it's like this after a barely month, I fear for the longevity of the final release. It almost actually makes me want them to lower rates or something.
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>>123913494
I'm currently on c2 right now. I'm beginning to realize that your boss rotation revolves around spamming umbo/rim blow in high guard, because your damage otherwise is quite pathetic compared to other circle choices.

Also, I was frustrated to find out that the poison attacks from the birds can't be blocked either, though I guess they count as elemental attacks, so whatever.

I really hope they add some way to block at least a % of magic damage in the future, as in, get staggers on enemies that attack you with magic. Even ghost-type wraiths that whack you with thier hands can't be blocked, and that's kind of bullshit for this class.

I'll need some more time and skill points to grow it some more, but I think I'm onto something with the high guard skillspam idea.
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im getting shitfucked by mobs in this fucking recommendation quest jesus fuck
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>>123920753
Oh really? I thought the falcon from Falconer was more of a visual thing from the abilities. I didn't know it was an actual pet you raise. That's kind of neat I guess. No wonder I never see them.
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Paladin's Barrier is broken as hell. Half of the time it lets the mobs go through and doesn't push them away when deployed.
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>>123920925
We knew that for quite a while.

You desert it
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>>123920342
Try asking them?
People aren't able to tell what you're thinking unless you tell them, and believe it or not most people aren't like 90% of 4chan, they won't laugh at you for being honest.
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>>123920785
Don't worry, when they implement guilds and WoE alch jewing won't drop as fast
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>>123920454
Won't you have to level the falcon too?
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>>123920785
all 'craft/create/sell classes' are down atm. so many ppl got to 200 so fast. thx xp event

the golden jew times are over
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>>123920342
If you do this >>123921067, make sure to take a screen shot of the results.
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>>123921240
I compulsively take screenshots of almost everything in this game so I'll have many memories to look back upon years in the future.
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As a Hunter, for as long as your pet isn't 10+ levels below the monsters, it's OP as fuck.

Nevermind the skills. He's nearly invulnerable to actual damage. He can take swarms of Wendigo Searchers and Lizardman Magician around his level, and only takes around 600 damage or less from them. On the rare ocasions they do hit him.
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I'm lv115 right now, and don't know where to level. How do you guys make it to the 130 dungeon?
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>>123921863
Quests should have taken you from 10X to 126~
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>>123920813
Peltasta is pretty easy to level if you grab the Cafrisun set and keep leveling Concentrate's attribute. Double hitting concentrate is strong early game. If you see a Pardoner with spell shop open you can grab Sacrament + Blessing for triple hitting both Concentrate and Blessing per auto attack making it way stronger than skills. Its what I did for leveling a pelt>rodelero alt.
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>>123922238
What quests? I've been doing Mage Tower and the 3rd floor is a bitch for questing. Can't find decent quest areas either.
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>>123920813
How long would it take to farm up a cafrisun set? I don't have the cash to buy it up right now.
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>>123922558
did you do all of the owl forest quests?
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>>123915201
>mfw all my characters are either pure or cutie tier
>mfw I'm a man
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>>123922590
Depends on how many other people are killing that monster. It spawns once every 30 minutes and there's 10 channels. If you're lucky a few of them will be around to kill. Usually you can get at least some of the pieces quickly.
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>>123921863
90 dungeon to 105/108, then do all quests from stele road tot mage tower to 2/3f? go do kateen and all the areas after that, then go back to mage tower. You should finish mage tower around 118-120 with current rates. You can either card to 127 for class advance, and then do the fedimian suburbs > forest of prayer line, or the reverse (fedimian suburbs > forest of prayer then card to 130).
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>>123920813
I went Peltasta C2 all the way to test it, and it's a meme class. You don't get shit for going C2, High Guard is kinda useless as it adds less than a third of the block you get by Guarding. The -50% atk reduces your damage by 80% thanks to linear defense being deduced flat, what completely kills any future rank's damage skills while High Guard is active. Damaging skills are a joke too, you're better off autoattacking.
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>>123922590
>poorfags
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Please aware me as to why people buy primaluce?
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>>123923005
I'm just hoping c3's skills are useful. That's all I'm in this class for at the moment.
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>Two blue mobs in a day
>Going from 91 to 94 and getting a class level from one of the mage mobs in Maus 3F
Maybe the game's telling me to just go swordie in release
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>>123923019
sorry for being on a server where the SELL PRICE is like 20k per piece.
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>>123923019
>unit price
>10
I'm sorry, what server are you on? I was looking at them on Gabija early yesterday (back when I would have cared) and they were a lot more expensive
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>>123923292
I went until lv 68, class lv ~12. I believe both C3 skield skills will have shitty DPS as well, since they don't seem to scale off your weapon the same way other classes do. Either way, you won't be able to do damage with them while using High Guard, which at lv 10 gives you measly 240 BLOCK that aren't really useful. You also can't crit. And your only option to keep using a shield is going Rodelero, which is the most useless class in the game.

Devs hate tanks. That's all.
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>>123923686
Change channels, yours might be bugged
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>>123923798
>And your only option to keep using a shield is going Rodelero

hoplite
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hue
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>>123923005
The flat block gained from High Guard is affected by the 25% block attribute right? If you take Hoplite after you could get an extra 20/30% block from Finestra for a good amount of passive block. The attack loss shouldn't be that bad at higher ranks if later skills have high attack. You just have to rely on skill damage more than auto attacks. And the point of High Guard is to allow you to block some attacks and use skills at the same time instead of standing around holding C.
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>>123923798
>devs hate tanks

You bet they do. For all the false promise of the counter-umbo damage, less than half of the bosses have attacks that you'll guard on a regular basis, and any class with c1 pelta will get everything they need out of the skill the few times they tank in a dungeon.

DESU, I think tanks are helpless without a party in any game. I was a tank years ago in a WoW guild, and it was the same deal then.
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this will never stop being funny
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>>123924226
This really irked the shit out of me when I first saw it, I was expecting a fat dude and I get this shit, terrible translation.
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>>123914686
That's exactly why they'll nerf arde... it has almost the same bonus damage as a lvl 170 item, only 95 levels earlier...

It should be like +45-60 fire damage, not in the fucking hundreds, they won't nerf the mechanics, they'll just nerf the item so it's strong but not the god damn best shit in the game and doubling your damage out of nowhere.
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>>123924151
>false promise of the counter-umbo damage

what
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>>123924017
My build for OBT will be Sword>Pelt>Hop3 for Finestra majesty. If they fix Blocking, maybe interchanging Spear+Memedagger with Spear+Shield for top utility. It's funny how Hoplite is a better tank than Peltasta, with its Block buff on Finestra. They kinda mix well.
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So like...how do you make BIG MONEY in this game? At level 65 am I just supposed to be poor? I've got 50k to my name

how do I make it 5000k?
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>>123921716
How much does your pet deal now?
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>>123924450
Demon Prison already gives you 3~5m if you never spend any dime while grinding.
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>>123924450
Level up. They you'd be swimming in recipes later, keep them first until you get some mats for some then craft then to either sell to npc or the market
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>>123924226
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>>123924494
2k+ crits, easily. More level fo Rush Dog don't give THAT much extra damage.

If I dumped several millions into atk and crit rate, shit would be much crazier though.
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>>123924450
You grind and/or get lucky with drops. Even just levelling at Demon Prison you will get probably around 300k an hour of just killing mobs not counting anything they might drop ontop of it.
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>>123924361
I was talking about how umbo-blow does almost double-damage on staggered enemies. It says to the player that peltasta revolves around blocking and punishing, something that can't be done on too many of the game's mobs. So many enemies have unblockable attacks, and even the ones that do often have slow AI. You're better off playing a class that doesn't have to wait for a block to deal decent damage.

C1 pelta > hoplite gets the best of both worlds, really. They get damage abilities to use when there's nothing to block.
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>>123924356
They've known about the power of the arde since before icbt even started. Why would they nerf it now?
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>>123924617
so you think just 1 circle of hunter can be good enough for rushdog damage?
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>>123924356
what if they just made it a high level rare drop instead of low level, that way it'll be just for twinked out characters instead of literally everyone
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>>123924753
additional circles of Hunter are just for giving your pet other things to do. The main draw being Growling in c3, and how great it works at CC. Hunter also doesn't have a lot of attributes, because you're supposed to just invest in your pet's stats.
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>>123924572
Why is yours level 1
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>>123924753
A single circle of Hunter is pretty good, I would recommend it, but only if you have a high level companion.

C2 has Retrieve, which is an OP single target, and C3 has Growling, the most OP AoE CC there is in PvE. The Hunter kit is pretty balanced at all circles.

At C1 I was doing 1.3k damage Rush Dog with a 13x pet, at C3 Iam doing 2.1k damage with a lvl 170.
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>>123924907
yeah i'm just gonna go with 1 rank only to get the stronger pet and and the auto rushdog

then ranger into falconer maybe, will see
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How do I make the boss spawn in the 200 dungeon? I can get over the gate but he isn't there.
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>>123924146
This all works on paper, but reality isn't so sweet.

Going Pelt C2 then Hop C3 is already wasting a Rank 6 slot while gaining too little. You might stack BLOCK that way, but you're going too far without damage just to get passive bonuses that aren't that useful. When you have High Guard up, all your damage is reduced to half BEFORE applying enemy def, so even good damage skills will deal shit damage during HG(don't even think you'll be using Umbo/Rim Blow offensively at higher ranks, their damage is shit). You could have more damage skills and more overall BLOCK if you pick a damage class and learn to Guard. You also get the bonus of being able to CRIT.

Just reminding you that all the Block in the world will still do jack against magic and Ghost attacks. Stacking CON is more important than any class or skill against those.
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>>123924986
Hunter would be pretty strong if they just made the pet level up at a good speed and gave rushdog an enhance attribute.
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>>123925039
You have to kill 2 monsters on the top right and bottom left corners.
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one thing that bothers me with the dagger is the awakening bonus. lot's of items get shit awks and the dagger has a wonderful one for mages... we knwo that it's suppsed to be random placeholder, but with the koreans, you'll never know
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>>123925227
Thanks
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>>123925248
>we knwo that it's suppsed to be random placeholder
sure we do
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>>123924561
>>123924563
>>123924632
when do you do DP? Luckily I hear Bokor3 rapes it

And when do bosses drop actual good drops? Best i've gotten is a 4k xbow
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>>123925089
Also give back the Companion equipment
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>>123924948
IT'S JUST A BETA BRO
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So am I done with prison 1? Only thing is the battlefield down there but I don't know how to get there. I never saw the trees people were saying to grind at.
Bee farm should get me at least a level or two, right?
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>>123925089
Lack of enhance attribute is basically criminal.

Hunter should get an attribute that gives the pet experience and scales similar to Enhance.

+1% pet experience per level
Max 100
Only takes effect while playing on the Hunter of course.
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>>123925725
The trees are in the Second Demon Prison, which is accessed through a hidden portal in Shaton Reservoir. They're basically Gust-spamming HP sponges with a good exp reward
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>>123925882
Oh okay, guess I'll go do the story quests at the bee farm then head there. Thanks.
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>>123919074
People like seeing my train, though...
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>>123926014
They hated me in the demon prison and insulted me if I ever ran a zombie train through a room while they were in it.
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>figure out how to pull enemies into broom trap
>at level 164
whoops
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>>123926124
Only thing I dislike about mass-zombies in Demon Prison is when those shits run around in an already filled room. My frames suffer enough without them and their flashing yellow contributing
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>>123926217
Turn off everything in the user.xml
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Big Black Griba is cute!
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>>123926412
But then I won't get to see all the wonderful flashes in any other reasonable location that isn't a 700 spider Demon Prison chamber. And those flashes are important
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Hello.
We are IMCGAMES TOS Team.

We will be performing Server Maintenance from 01:00 EST to 05:00 EST on December 1, 2015.
Game Service will be unavailable for approximately 4 hour.

The following has been changed/fixed :

Fixed the problem of the debuff effect from the skill “Skull Swing: No Jump” persisting well after its supposed duration.
Fixed the problem of the faces of Fedimian market NPCs not being printed properly.
Fixed the problem of level-restricted quest’s texts printed in Korean.
Fixed the problem of not being able to activate Dievdirbys’ Vakarine skills when in a mouse mode.
Fixed typos

Thank you for your patience.
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wew lad got stabbed
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>>123926635
such quality fixes.
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>>123926635
>Fixed typos
every time
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>>123926929
how's that build anyway? Archer>Ranger>Sapper2>Rogue2 seems really good/fun
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>>123926635
>didn't fix the channeling bug
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>>123927045
Archer 2, no Ranger.

Swift Step crit buff is bretty good.
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>have to wait until halfway into next year to be a plague doctor with an army of undead

also I imagine the male outfit will look better without the skirt/frills, might even make it a male just if it looks better
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>>123927163
you also get that multishot quick charge
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Anyone want to do the 130 dungeon? I finally hit 130 but the dungeon area is completely dead with no one around ;_;
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>>123927301
Yeah I forgot about that. Also very good.
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>>123927246
>have to wait to be a cutie cannoneer shoving her big balls down enemy throats
I almost wish I didn't know about them
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>>123927163
meh recasting swift step is annoying, and it also forces you into stacking crit rate.

I'm honestly going QS for the ranged stun on kOBT, at least that's OP in pvp.
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>mfw Brandish is wasted on c2 Pelta shitter
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>>123927552
QS Scout Rogues PvP quote me.

>>123927598
>c2 pelta meme still going full force
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