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is grita a thaum
>>123716791
Elementalist above Necro? is Necro that bad? I thought the Flesh Tower thing was supposed to be a cute cannon
First for
Thaum is the worst class in the game
Reminder to keep believing in the Goddesses!
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-feedback-wizards-quirks-and-all-things-arde/121122/12
>Hi, may i ask can the summons like skeletons/corpse tower get boosted by quick cast ? Disappointed with ele 3 so I'm considering to go wiz 3 - linker 2 - necro.
Wow, that's like saying
"I'm disappointed with only a dick up my ass, so I'm trying with a cactus"
just
Thaumaturges are adorable and waifu material
I made a webm of the Panto Speed Boost, bretty good desu senpai
Reminder to report lewd sightings.
xth for
>all classes are a meme
>all builds are a meme
>all skills are a meme
>doing anything is a meme
>not doing anything is a meme
>meme meme meme
>>123717274
Is blue panto sonic?
-Swordman
Shinobi Rank 7
Fencer Rank 7
Dragoon Rank 8
Templar Rank 8
Murmillo Rank 8
-Archer
PiedPiper Rank 8
Appraiser Rank 8
Cannoneer Rank 7
Musketeer Rank 7
-Wizard
Mimic Rank 11
Daoshi Rank 11
Sage Rank 7
Warlock Rank 7
Featherfoot Rank 8
-Cleric
Chaplain Rank 8
Shepherd Rank 9
Plague Doctor Rank 7
Kabbalist Rank 7
Does this mean rank 8 and 9 won't have two options? Also posting anime gif to trigger the anti-avatar faggot >:^)
>>123716791
>>123717072
Elem is kinda whatever in my opinion. All it really brings to the table is a free room clear every once in a while. Both their mobbing and bossing are otherwise fairly whatever. I definitely wouldn't place them above Necro at the very least. Necro can tear through anything single target in a matter of seconds with how crazy Flash Cannon gets if you stack meme items. Basically every single one of your attacks having Decay tied to it is also crazy useful for way easier overkills and thus better exp. Necro is just pretty fucking good all around, maybe not Temple Shooter Sorc level but it's pretty up there as far as Wizard is concerned.
>>123717085
But it gives your entire party like +150 damage and x2 exp just from one circle. How could it be the worst when people are going sword c2 for a grand total of +21 more damage only applying to themself.
Meme = busted
>>123717225
Venom from the Wugushi Master exists, it's 200 Poison Pots per Venom used.
archers are not shitonce you hit 200.
Is Cryo C2 shit? I wanna make a more Support focused Wizard build but I absolutely hate being Pyro without Linker.
>>123717346
This game won the "meme of the year" award
>>123717231
>swell boobs
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/level-163-rank-275-players-opinion-of-this-game/119233
>>123717197
Really hope they don't balance the content around people with completely retarded builds like this. I mean there should be some leeway for people that are a little inefficienct and such but this is just totally beyond reasoning.
How do I get pink hair?
Kissposters must be sexually abused.
>>123717057
Grita is olev
>>123717475
>Support focused wizard
>doesn't have linker
>>123717475
cryo c2 is shit, c1 is fine for those mixed 4 classes builds.
>>123717394
idk where you're getting this info from but it looks pretty outdated and none of it was confirmed in the first place.
>>123717463
whats that guys build?
>>123717071
>>123717560
Okay, that's kinda lewd. Thaumaturges are definitely pure and classy
>>123717531
Better asking here. Please respond.
I want these useless monster gems to go and go back to demon prison.
Does anyone know how many ranks will be available during release?
>>123718189
Elma's are alright but
GAS THE ELETS !
They should give Quick Cast to Chrono
>>123717394
>>123718056
That list is the same as the job table present in Job.ipf from November 5th. However, we can't open any more recent IPF files to see if it's been changed but it's highly likely.
Someone is working on a way to extract the new IPF files though, so we might get some more info before kOBT.
Reminder that linker is the single best class for wizard.
Evrey wizard build will be required to have linker on release.
>>123718357
I love joining 190 dungeon runs only to have a pyro keep going nuts on the Elets, healing them to full whenever they dip below 20%. Over and over and over. It's like they just skipped demon prison entirely
>>123718186
archer 3 > wugushi 2 > SR
>>123717072
>>123717419
Necro isn't that bad, it's just that, for parties and grind in general, it doesn't bring too much dps or utility (necro does have, I know).
Elementalists have Frost Cloud that has the same cooldown as Flesh Cannon, but also has other spells in their kit to keep the dps always up, while necro is better for aggro pulling and tanking with it's summons.
That said, they are only 1 rank apart in my rank
Is Cataphract really terrible? I was planning on going Hoplite C2 > Catapharact C2
>>123717425
sword 2 is rank 2, thaum is rank 4
there's no comparisson m8
Also the +150 damage is kinda meh in the long run.
>>123718576
>that SP drain
>>123718482
> joining ... runs
well in partys they are ok. i can slack
but in solo190s they are a little annoying
>>123718479
Nah, that's Sorcerer. At least in the current form because of TS. Linker is super good but it's mostly because it synergizes with literally everything by its nature, and that's kind of the point. I hope they don't nerf Linker because of how interesting it can be.
Linkers do bring the most to a group though.
>>123718576
Do all lvl 190+ monsters have this much health?
I did it!
I became the new meme!
>>123718576
so archer 3 is not shit and ranger is the meme class?
>>123718809
Morph's only use (now that the previous exploit is dead) is in a rather disappointing buff to Templeshooter with the right cards. But to achieve said buff it means padding the Hell out of a different card (Cerberus is the best example)
You morph the main card (Cerberus) into Templeshooter and while you get templeshooter's skills and design, he gets Cerberus's stats
>>123718809
Joint Penalty > TS
>>123718974
>stabbing 0
>>123718576
>Maxed oblique shot
Lvl 1 is good enough
>>123718967
no but lepus was chosen cause everyone has trouble with them. they have 42k hp and just got shredded through with oblique
>>123719016
If you're going wugushi, which is rank 4, archer c3 isn't a meme.
>>123719161
It's exactly the same cost-effectiveness, you just kill shit slower.
>>123719161
If you have access to lvl 5 pots then spam lvl 15 away.
>>123719161
why would you leave it at lvl 1 with alch pots?
>>123718695
Stop.
>>123719039
See, that's interesting. I really hope they balance around stuff like that. Having a weak monster that has some unique aspect to it, then morphing with a stronger monster to make it viable.
Temple Shooter's double shot is a good example. If TS was super weak, or at least mediocre on his own, but had to be morphed to be as strong as it is now I feel like more people would be okay with it. I hope they nerf TS just so we can see more flexibility.
>>123719042
Depends on the condition. That said it's been a long time since I was forced to play without joint penalty so maybe I'm underestimating it.
>>123718357
What's wrong with elets? The only mobs on DP2 that are annoyuing are Harugals, at least to me
>>123719016
No, he probably would do more damage if he was Ranger C3
>>123719374
But why, I'm like 50% class exp away to rank 5
>>123717394
>Fencer Rank 7
But they are Rank 6. It's even in this beta. At least do some common sense research beforehand.
>>123718695
It's pretty underpowered at the moment. Don't bother unless you really want the costume.
>>123719443
>Depends on the condition.
Its double damage, man.
>>123719276
Wugushi is a big meme.
50% poison resist everywhere.
Stutter when using skills.
Shitty scaling.
>>123719492
wugushi definitely does more dmg to bosses, outside that maybe not
>>123719598
And how many of these are you talking out of your ass?
>>123719556
That looks absolutely terrible.
Lv5 thrust, 10 bash? 10 pommel beat... with shield attacks.
For what purpose?
>>123717425
To be fair, people going sword c2 have no fucking idea what they are doing, can't do simple math and most likely are retards. You shouldn't follow their example.
Now, I don't know anything about Thaumaturge, or if that +150 damage is simply final or it scales, but later on +150 is not really much. Is that 2x exp 100% uptime?
Otherwise doesn't sound too good.
>>123719556
>>123719276
>>123719492
then whats better? it just looks like archers are stuck with oblique the entire game and that doesnt seem fun at all
>>123719665
None because I deleted my wugushi because of this shit.
Also poison pot card mechanic not implemented.
>>123719548
I mean joint penalty is usually useless on bosses. Also if there aren't too big packs of monsters it's not all that great. I do think they should change how it works a bit though, I think the damage multiplication is a bit much. I think when they designed the class they more pictured everyone focusing a big monster that was linked to small ones, so they could take care of the small ones at the same time.Fine, it's overpowered. It's interesting and fun though so I don't want to see it nerfed. Synergy is the point of the whole class system
>>123719743
>stuck with oblique
You don't have to use oblique if you don't want to.
>>123719492
I'm sure Steady Aim is totally worth it
>>123719743
Dude, Oblique is a filler skill. You use your high cds and then fill the void with oblique.
Where do all these retarded shitter come from?
>>123719908
why would you not use a much better auto attack that can hit two targets
>>123719857
Still works on bosses.
Link with adds or traps or if you're cryo you can link ice wall.
>>123719493
Cata C1 only gives you a costume and mobility (and I guess using 2h spears). Their skills don't deal any damage.
Cata C2 gives you absolutely nothing.
Cata C3 gives you the ability to get to level 15 skills that deal bellow average damage, and Rush that has a 90 seconds cooldown and doesn't even deal any meaningful damage considering how many strong other classes get at rank 6.
Meme Armor set or Vubbe gloves for Hoplite leveling?
>>123720002
Oh man all these archer fags are still confused about how bad their class is
>>123720121
None, you don't need them as a Hoplite.
>>123720016
because it costs SP? I mean, dude on the webm must be chugging potions like crazy, if you have better skills to dispatch mobs then use those. Barage, for isntance, seems stronger and has overheat, despite having a low cooldown.
>>123720049
Linking traps isn't that useful. It doesn't multiply damage since only 1 damage can hit them, and they're usually so easy to avoid that easily destroying them with links isn't that great. Moving them with hangman is situational.
Cryo+Linker is a good thing though. It's interesting synergy that should be good, it should be rewarded. If we start nerfing everything that works well together, why even have this system?
Does Arde add damage on Cafrisun's?
Is there a point of going Priest if Pardoners will be abundant in the final release? They're lots of them now I can just get my buff from them and it lasts longer.
>>123720201
I already have meme gloves because I got a blood on the first kill. Just wondering if Carifsun's procs from Stabbing.
>>123720219
>because it costs SP?
>>>/reddit/
>>123720306
Cafrisun procs on multi hit skills
>>123720219
What? You don't know about lvl 5 alch pots? Play the game you fucking retard
>>123719443
I agree that Morph should be more of an asset than it currently is. Right now, it simply isn't necessary, and it isn't even something you'd miss with it gone. The stat change from Cerberus to Templeshooter is nice on paper but that's just because you see Cerberus's bloated STR and HP stats compared to Templeshooter's modest stats.
I just want Templeshooter's damage cut to reasonable levels. It is totally cool that he's got two hits to his auto and it's totally cool that it does more damage than a single hit of another summon. But it's too much as it is. He's got two Shadowgalers on his arms that he hits things with, and each crossbow should not do that much. A nice combined total, sure, but each crossbow is basically one summon.
Nerf that a bit, buff a few other cards so there's a bit of a tier list but not so drastic. Make the stats of the summons be something to choose from, along with the Riding skills.
A good trade off for slightly better auto attack damage than most cards (if Temple hits with both crossbows) would be that Templeshooter isn't as tanky as several other cards are (Cerberus and its 90k HP with 1 star as an example)
>>123719681
Due to your feedback, I have increased thrusts power
>>123720672
lel, perfect
>not going from 161-178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRm1WsvMws&feature=youtu.be
>>123720061
also cant you like, not use Hoplite skills while mounted?
Any healers want to run the 130 dungeon?on Laima ;_;
Would any of you kiss me?
>>123720061
How would you fix cataphracts?
I'd like to see the class function at least somewhat similar to what they were named after. That is, swiftly break in, wreck shit, and get out. Replace the gob shite that is Earth Wave with something else. Make Steed Charge cover a much larger distance, allow a small degree of turning control when charging, make it do pierce damage, and rename it to "Lance Charge"
>>123717197
>Disappointed with ele 3
How the fuck is that even possible? Rape Cloud can clear even the most crowded rooms in Demon Prison District 2 with a single cast except for the Harugals and that's only because they take half damage from it.
>>123720061
>>123719532
Now I'm at a loss on what to take on Rank5/6
>>123720061
>(and I guess using 2h spears)
You say that like its not a big deal
Hoplite 3 + Cata 1 is absolutely godlike for killing bosses. Stabbing + 3 hits from a trident is so utterly broken its not even funny. Its easily worth picking up a single Cata just for that trident alone.
after going the swordsman route for about 60 levels, what class can i try thats FUN
>>123720765
sweet.
i was going from 166 to 178
i liked Prison
Grass triggers OoB
THE SYNERGY
>>123721134
no class. they are all shit and memes >>123717346
>>123721138
I didn't. It was always packed when I was there.
>>123721094
Aren't bosses easy enough as it is at those levels?
>>123721291
pls stop mememing
>>123721384
meme me mate !
>>123720765
>193 lvl 8 cards
what? how
>>123721094
Come live though going Hop 3 and then something inbetween and then Dragoon will be better if you want two handed spears that bad
>>123720924
Wasn't that cavalry charge in Vienna the largest one is history?
I want to love Cataphracts too, but at their current state, it's jsut too hard. Rush needs to be at least as good as Cyclone to be worth the C3, using skills while moving need t actually work, and they need a bread-and-butter skill that's better than Earth Strike's current state
>>123721145
what
>>123721041
if you're Hoplite already you could go Hoplite C3 into Doppel or Corsair C1 + C2 for dual wielding with spears
>>123721319
>thinking short term
Bad anon, bad.
>>123721425
ahhhhhh
After much deliberation and playing with over 15 classes, not including Archers, I have finally made up my mind on these builds for the final release.
Just a friendly reminder that if you have white hair and chupa ears, you are 100% cute! Congratulations!If you're doing it as a boy though you deserve to be chained up in a rape dungeon by sorceresses and milked into a catatonic slump with absolutely no mercy.
>>123720827
Only Long Stride can't be used while mounted.
>>123721094
I would take Cyclone and Deeds of Valor over 2H Spears any day. And that is exactly what I did as a Hoplite 3.
2H Spears that split damage against bosses are overrated, you will melt bosses anyways and Cyclone gives you a massive spike in power that you can use in between cooldowns, which is something 1 circle of Cata will never be able to provide. Not even counting Deeds of Valor which is another huge boost to overall damage.
>>123721041
You can go Hoplite3 > Doppel, or Hoplite2 > Corsair if you want more damage. You could take Squire > Doppel if you want to jew a bit, or even Squire2 for full jew.
>>123720924
I will get back to you on this in a bit.
>get to 60 without ever using exp cards
>always thought they were just a bonus for completing a quest and that quest gave exp
..s-should i use them all now?
>>123721535
specifically the Druid spell that grows grass will activate OoB's damage bonus
Paladin's Aura will also activate the OoB damage bonus.
>>123721662
>for the final release
Your wizard build would not be possible for final release because some of those Alch and Sorc skills aren't going to be C1.
I don't suppose anyone is selling monster gems at a reasonable price on Gabija?
>>123721927
I know, I'll go C2 on both.
>>123721778
Just don't go over 5 levels on your quest map. I'm on 116 and haven't even used one since I'm constantly in level just by killing things on the way while questing.
>>123721769
>that hair
shit
also you're a jew.
>>123722178
>>123721778
>what is double exp event
>>123721703
>>123721550
Pros and cons between Doppel and Corsair? I initially thought of them as more viable with barbs and highlanders
>>123720220
Traps take full damage. They can only lose one life at a time.
Also Pyro benefits majorly from links. Linking a fireball to a monster causes the fireball to splash to itself, doubling the number of hits it does. If you link a level 10 fireball to a boss the boss will take 20 hits worth of fireball damage when you hangman that fireball in to him (turn off the "damage on hangman cast" attribute). Pyro2 -> linker gives you more damage than just pyro3.
>>123722397
What about it, I'm just telling him not to overlevel on his quest map or it'd be a waste
Some faggot Barbarian -Corsair walked in moments later and killed it, while I was preparing to Double Pay Earn it.
Fuck this shit.
>>123720841
A-anyone? It's been over an hour without a single healer showing up. ;_;Just kill me now.
>>123722364
no anon. im your best friend. trust me
JUST
>>123719556
>mfw I actually saw a swordsman3/rodelero3
>>123722430
>Traps take full damage
Well that speeds up my bosses, thanks.
I just don't want to see how linker works changed too much, because it has so many neat possibilities. I know these things need to be balanced, but having certain combos be very strong is what makes the game fun.
How do I cast monster skills with druid?
>>123722593
He's most likely put the entirety of his points into con, making him an asset to the group due to the fact that he doesn't need to be healed.
I wonder what new skills squire 3 will have. We need booze skills for extra comfy.
>>123722728
set up an EXP buff table. 1 hour buff for 10% more exp from mob kills
>>123722593
>Circle3
>Level 50
How?
How many points of Zombify should a Bokor
WHO PLANS TO GO BOKOR 3
take?
>>123723090
You get to it at around level 45-7?
>>123723096
No motre than 10
Are Pierce / Synchro Thrusting any good? What about later circle Hoplite skills? I know stabbing and finestra are good.
Absolutely nothing is suspicious carry on
>>123722985
That's actually completely reasonable.
>>123722178
for sure, i might just stick to doing that, killing shit on my way to other quest like ive been doing
>>123721662
holy fuck nigger are you going to auto attack all the way til pyro c1? I am fairly certain that respec won't be as easy at release.
>>123722985
I was thinking of more useful buffs than hp/sp increase and recovery. Something like atk/matk increase as well asmdef increase
Shit would be so cash to have a mini outdoor bar.
>>123723090
maybe he killed a blue mob at class 15 before the job change.
this is a true qt. 8/10, would be perfect if she was a brunette
>>123723368
Yes, Why put points on a skill that I won't use past R2?
>>123720924
Ok, the problem about balancing Cataphract lies in their mobility.
You can't allow a Cata to move twice as fast as anyone else but also being able to dish out as much damage as those who move at slower speed. Imagine mages/archers trying to kite a Cataphract using a strong skill like Cyclone, there would be no counterplay.
Which is why I think they gave Cata charged skills, so they can move fast, position correctly and give them some delay before dealing damage (to make it fair). This is also the reason why their damage is bellow average.
Now, assuming we have to balance around mobility and damage, I think it could be:
1.- Forget about damage, make Cata a class that is all about moving fast and creating chaos in enemy formations. Which is something they already are, but instead of charged skills I would give them more CC. This would make them more PvP oriented.
2.- "Get in fast", allowing them to rush into the enemies to deal huge damage, but losing the ability to get out fast (otherwise it wouldn't be fair). This could be done through something like "can't moves at normal speed x seconds after using a skill" type of thing, or making Trot duration be very short (like 5 seconds) but have a lower cooldown (like 10 seconds).
3.- Nerf their speed, lower their damage (yes, even more), but allow them to move while using skills (like cyclone). This would fit thematically.
Either way, it doesn't matter what you try to do, Cata is a class that is all about mobility and as long as they have that mobility they are not allowed to have as much damage as other classes.
>>123723508
because you're never going to use lethargy either... might as well take 1 points out and level waaaay faster
>>123723559
cata can't use cyclone, your theory has gone to shit.
they're useless.
>>123722580
It has been like that since yesterday.
I had to do a 5 men full dps run
Man, I like to test out scout but this guy. I don't even know how did he. JUST
>>123723508
I would get one in unbind. You can deal damage with the attribute and you can add the joint buff to bosses and stack them a few times even if they don't have anything they were linked to. With unbind you could probably burst quite a bit.
cleric krivis krivis sadhu sadhu druid is the standard burster build.
>>123723508
When would you ever use lethargy? When would you ever use sleep with that build considering you don't even have energy bolt either? If you really feel you 'must' have all of those debuffs why wouldn't you just do something like...
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7bck87d3dw/
Hell, you could even drop 2 from bolt and max shield if you felt so inclined (though I hardly see the point)
>>123721662
letargy = 3 for the attrib (which is really good), put 1 into eq for the disable, extra aoe (later u'll have billions of matk) and, ofc, break ks parties linkes). maybe 1 point into energy bolt for comfy mobs replacement (push shit into your fground) nd better r1 gameplay.
pyro linker alch is all ok, faceroll classes for handicapped ppl
>>123723559
also, there would be counterplay.
you can just sleep/ freeze/ stun/ whatever when he's about to use cyclone.
you can see it easily as well, there's a huge animation before you actually start spinning.
>>123724141
>With unbind you could probably burst quite a bit.
It's shit
t. linker/thau
>tfw not good at grinding so stuck at level 60 on my 4 chars and been playing since the beta started
>>123722427
Hop3 > Doppel: You get to be almost full STR since you get Finestra level 15~17. This means more physical attack and even higher return bonus from Deeds of Valor. You also get Cyclone which is simply destroys anything in it's path.
You will get some downtime though, but it is made up by the fact that your auto attacks become stronger with Deeds of Valor. You also have the niche of getting 2x exp and rewards while using Double Pay Earn.
Hop2 > Corsair2: You get one hard CC (Iron Hook) and one soft CC (Dust Devil), which is something the other build lacks. You also get Hexen Dropper, which isn't Cyclone but it still deals some pretty good damage. And you get the flag which is some decent party support (hey, at least you are sharing something).
Your auto-attacks also have the potential to be stronger using Double Weapon Assault which uses 2 stamina per hit, but you are not restricted to having stacks like Deeds of Valor (you don't lose defense either).
Overall, both builds pretty much destroy everything we currently have available in the game. I am pretty sure Doppel can deal more damage overall with Deeds of Valor stacks (specially when mobbing), but Corsair deals serious damage too.
>>123724141
Druid is a complete meme class. The damage is not that good and AOE only marginally bigger, not to mention it has a 30 hit limit and can't hit flying mobs, shapeshifting is only useful if you transform into a fast moving mob, Telephath is only for force kissing other people, doesn't even work on bosses. The only actual good skill from that class is Sterea Trofh but only lasts 10 seconds, could be a life saver for your party members though.
Cleric C2 is great for soloing as a Sadhu. The new ranks will have bigger, better damage dealing classes than Druid that's for sure, so I might as well just strengthen the ones I have right now with more utility.
>>123723969
It's getting to that point now, but that doesn't sound pleasant with our current party setup.
>>123724094
Future proof. The new trailer only got Scout and Archer skills for Canonneers and Musketeer
>>123724568
DM only gives +1 skill
>there are bokors going full int/spr and using magic attack weapons
>>123723756
Of course they can't, which is why I used it as an imaginary example.
>>123724548
Iron Hook isn't shit?
webm when
>>123724719
I don't even care for Divine Might that much, Fade and 10 extra hits on Safety Zone are very useful for a Sadhu, even more so now that their Possession gets cancelled when they get hit.
>>123724926
Don't forget DM adding a bit more to SZ as well, so even if its not that hot, its useful for both Fade and SZ (which you went c2 for anyway)
>>123724758
and it could be counter played in pvp just as I posted earlier.
>>123724926
Just git gud and don't get hit. It's not that hard senpai
how should I be distributing character level points?
going bokor3 into something else
>>123724568
>Druid is a complete meme class
clueless redditnigger detected
>>123724568
Druid will probably be a lot better on release when you're level 400+ and have 40 hits of carnivory hitting for 10k damage each hit. It's just because the damage calculation is so shit in this game, anything that multihits will be absolutely broken at the higher levels.
>>123724568
>Telephath is only for force kissing other people,
WAIT, I CAN DO THIS?
>>123724548
>Double Weapon Assault which uses 2 stamina per hit
What, I thought it uses SP. The simulator said so
>>123725363
>Duel someone
>Use the greeting gesture
>Use telepath on them
>Walk them over to your character
>>123725141
I think Bokor Zombies rely on your STR and weapon stats, and their HP on your SPR.
>>123725234
It is. I'll just wait for rank 7 and 8 for an actual AOE damage class, Druid is very limited.
I wasn't paying attention and I went Krivis 1, Priest 1. How am I supposed to build this character?
>>123725534
are sadhu's actually sad?
>>123725534
>diev
>>123725591
rmk
>>123725591
Priest C2 into Monk
>>123725591
you could go krivis>priest>priest>monk>monk
>>123717072
I think necro is quite decent but it's not good for the reason a lot of people think it is.
The summons (apart from Shoggoth) are fairly mediocre because have poor scaling.
The strength of necro I've found is that it gives you two very decent offensive spells in the first circle.
Flesh cannon is a good multi-hit ability like multi-shot and Flesh hoop is a fairly decent instant cast AOE that lasts 15 seconds.
I could see necro being included in a wizard 3 build that isn't going Elementalist, to give you offensive options before more open up at rank 7+.
>>123725591
Cleric > Krivis > Priest > Priest > Monk > Monk
>>123725635
I'm trying out all the classes I can for this beta, Diev is shit too at least the C1
>>123725630
Sadhu is amazing
>>123725591
Make absolutely certain that you get you some of that Daino goodness.
>>123725141
int until bokor c2 and then respec into full dex with a splash of spr for the regen and zalcai+hexing scaling
bwa kayiman is essentially the best farming skill in the game so you will be using it 99% of the time, and it functions as a physical attack that uses YOUR crit rate and physical damage. upgrading your weapon will be important, because its base damage is quite low.
>>123725534
bokor zombies scale solely off the level of the enemy you zombified. spr does nothing meaningful for their health pools, to the point where i'm not even sure it does anything at all. bwa kayiman doesn't use their stats, though, so it doesn't really matter.
>>123725947
Show me a good Sadhu build.
Oh jeezWhy is all the art so lewd?
>>123725630
Sadhu are fucking amazing
>Top DPS
>never need potions because of heals and low SP cost
>can teleport around the screen with Praviti
>Safety Zone and Fade mean you are literally invincible
>>123724869
You don't need it for PvE, but it is nice to have that option for PvP (plus it can deal damage and bleeding when pulling through Keel Hauling).
>>123725069
Cyclone still goes through some CCs. But still, a competent player will wait out for the CC to go off before pulling any sensitive damaging skills and once your CC is gone you still have to kite the Cata while your CC comes off cooldown. And even if you CC the Cata that means you have no CC for that Doppel/Corsair/Fencer coming right after you.
There are a lot of plays that could be done in PvP, which are then affected by the environment (a coordinated team, etc) but you are totally missing the point.
The point is about not allowing them to deal huge damage while still being able to move much faster than anyone else. Just search on Youtube for PvP videos, see how Barb builds can deal lots of damage while moving using Pouncing, and people still have a hard time kiting them. Now imagine if that was a Cata.
>>123725459
Nope, it uses stamina, like double punch.
>>123726069
krivis c2 > sadhu c2 > druid
better for solo
krivis > cleric c2 > sadhu c2 druid
First Swordsman. Any inputs on what to fill the two X spots.
Swordsman> X> Hoplite> X> Corsair> Squire
>>123726317
What's Druid for?
>>123725591
Can also go Krivis Priest 2 Pardoner 2 if you wanted to.
Jew em with buff shop and such.
When will Brandish exist?
>>123726320
Pelt. Hop2. Why Squire on Rank 6? You can take that at rank 6 and take Doppel at 6, if you're only taking 1 rank of Corsair, why bother
>>123726580
never
>>123726069
this is the cookie cutter Sadhu build for maximum soloing. You can substitute Cleric C2 for Krivis C2 if you want more DPS over survivability. When I hit Sadhu C2 and had to start grinding Demon Prison, I almost never used OoB because Possession was too amazing and OoB is more of a solo tool since you need to set it up (OoB, Defensive skill, activator) while grinding requires you to run around everywhere.
I might actually just go Krivis C2 if I stick with Druid because leveling to Rank 5 is pretty easy now even without Fade. When I get to Druid, I have the invincibility Grass to replace Fade anyway.
>>123726372
Carnivory damage and transforming into cute monsters
>>123726580
Q4 2016.
>>123726069
>>123726372
Cleric C2 Krivis C2 Sadhu C2 for a nice balance between solo and party play
You could choose one circle of Druid instead of either Krivis C2 or Cleric C2, Druid has an AOE damage skill as well as an AOE invincibility one. I wouldn't recommend going Druid at all and just wait for the new classes to roll in. I'm sure Shepherd will have more mobility skills and Plague Doctor looks like it's going to be an AOE damage dealing class.
Main Chamber done. Is it demon dicks time?
>>123726597
>take that at rank 5
>>123725868
that looks so lacklustre
>>123721662
>5 heal
>5 cure
I really want 10 cure but sadly we have to get 5 in heal.
>>123726881
>cryo
What kinda build you got going on there?
>>123726881
Not yet. Dungeon reset soon honey!
>>123726881
You can do the dungeon until 150 if you want to avoid demon dick for a while.
>>123724548
Thanks. I might go Hop3 for more sustainable Finestra. Doppel seems good if I can get more damage then equip a shield instead of a dagger and keep my Long Stride
>>123726372
Druid synergizes really well with Sadhu
>Sadhu rank 3 is pretty poop
>Grass is another thing that can activate OoB
>Carnivory is a super strong version of Cure
>Grass can be turned into a giant Safety Zone
>Transformation lets you go SONIC FAST
>Telepathy is free kisses
I also found out if I use the speed buff and cancel my transformation, I can run around like a Cataphract but still use my entire skill set. It's really useful for boss rushing.
>>123727301
Standard. I wish I could have done something more interesting but Sorc is just so damn strong. I hope in thenext closed betaChrono is stronger/reworked, I'd love to make one.
>>123727323
>>123727351
Oh right, how long till reset? I figure midnight but I don't know what timezone.Will you run the dungeon with me?
>>123727537
>Will you run the dungeon with me?
I asked you ingame but you didn't answer ;_;
Also 50m until reset.
>>123727537
>Standard
Woops, here.
>>123727651
Oh sorry, I've been running around a lot today, I probably didn't see the whisper.I need to study my nip tongue until reset. Whisper me around then okay?
>>123726938
Without quick cast most spells are
>>123727448
Rather wait to see what the new classes do, they'll probably be better anyway.
>>123727710
I sent a friend request that you didn't accept.;_;
>>123727537
>>123727710
How is it compared to good ol' Pyrolinker? Not expecting it to be as good, but is it miles behind?
>>123726681
I went Krivis 2 into Sadhu, the Zaibas splash is incredible but I really can't use OOB without Safety Zone and it only blocks 10 hits. Increased Daino is great for dungeons, too.
When grinding you'll literally never OOB unless you find a place where monsters are not aggressive and die fast (Dina Bee Farm), thankfully Zaibas and Posession are both very good AoE as long as you get to channel.
Also playing with a Linker/Thaum was super great
>>123727830
>Ranked 6 classes are going to suck because Rank 7/8/9 will exist
>>123726681
>possession now gets canceled if you take damage during it's cast
Someone please shoot me
>>123728081
>still not responding to erp
>>123728019
>Go into a dungeon with a linker
>HANGMAN'S KNOT
>POSSESSION
>HANGMAN'S KNOT
>POSSESSION
this was so ridiculous we were laughing throughout the entire thing.
>>123728108
If the Possession thing doesn't get fixed I'm rolling a new class in OBT desu
anyone else lagging/freezing ingame?
>>123727934
I haven't tried Pyrolinker, but from what I've seen the damage is a fair bit lower, enough that it would be a problem if you were coming from pyrolinker. It does have a lot of control though, hangman+freeze meant I didn't need to put points into con for a very, very long time. If I wasn't so greedy will swells I still wouldn't.
Now that I have Sorc and TS I feel like it's evened out at the very least. I have plenty of damage now, and the control stays. Freezes mean my TS hits an entire cluster more often, and Icewalling only gets stronger.
>>123728081
Cleric, Krivis and Sadhu all are worth going C2 for. You could be potentially breaking a good future proof build by going Druid instead of waiting for R7 classes.
>>123728108
>can't cast my shitty rng hail or electroCUTE because reflect shield is broken
>>123728019
did you buy attributes for Possession? It doesn't look like you had Swell Arm on. I keep avoiding buying attributes cause I'm hilariously poor.
>>123728108
It's a bug. Only physical hits from monsters will cancel it. Magic hits don't, at least not always. Hoping it gets fixed.
Just Safety Zone before you channel it, if you're using Possession you won't be needing it for keeping you safe in OOB
Any Gabija alchs in here? I need an awakening service.
>>123719193
Lepus are a fucking joke for my Hoplite/Doppel. Why do people say they are hard?
>>123728403
20 ranks in both OOB: Enhance and Possession: Enhance
30 in Zaibas, 40 in Cure
Also I have on-hit attack memegear that procs on every Zaibas hit, every Possession hit and 3 times on every OOB basic attack
What the fuck is the problem with the spawn rates in high level zones? This has to be some kind of bug or something. I can't even do quests.
>>123728815
no bug
just IMC being turds
>>123728560
man I just spent all my money on a Kaloo Hammer, still worth though
>>123728397
>not falling for the Wizard C3 meme
or did IMC also break Surespell too?
Add Chilled status, worse than freeze but enemies move slower and can still detonate Ice Blast on Chilled targets.
Freeze mechanics remain unchanged, however, bosses can be chilled at the same rate normal enemies are frozen.
Reduce Ice Wall CD to 30s
Reduce damage of projectiles from Ice Wall by 30%
Ice Blast is now AoE and when it breaks freeze the target becomes chilled and spreads chill to enemies in AoE.
Ice Blast CD reduced by 15.
Ice Bolt SP cost reduced and AoE radius increased by 25%.
Did I just fix Cryo?
>>123728417
Except im using safety zone to use astral explosion instead, in prison 2F
>>123729171
Kinda wish Ice Pike didnt have a 35 second CD. I mean Fireball has fricken 15 second CD and does way more damage too.
>>123729171
you turned them into ice wall: the class
>>123728882
Hammers aren't useful on Sadhus since you don't make use of the physical attack at all. (also why does the OOB attribute reduce physical resistance when OOB is magic damage)
Obviously Kaloo Hammer is made for Sadhus but I think an awakened Elder Rod is better.
>>123729336
Cryomancer C1 is Icewall: the class already
>>123729370
>Hammers aren't useful on Sadhus since you don't make use of the physical attack at all. (also why does the OOB attribute reduce physical resistance when OOB is magic damage)
niceme.me
>>123729336
So nothing changed..?
There's gonna be another cbt before obt, I just realized they haven't opened pvp for testing.
>>123729463
they have
>>123729370
Maces have some sort of innate bonus for OoB if you activate the damage multiplier. I already had a +7 Awakened Elder Rod, I did more damage with OoB anyway. I still have an Elder Rod though for magic Spam. Kaloo Hammer also has a unique sprite which is like 99% of the reason I bought it.
>two people dueling
>throw down a heal
>>123729426
At least I know a weapon with more physical damage will not increase OOB damage (upgrading your mace etc.) Maybe there is a hidden damage bonus for using a mace with Sadhu, it's all really confusing
>>123729535
where? point it out
