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Trapped in the Nightmare: >>123483984
>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/
>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com
>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/
>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2
>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/
>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html
>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)
>Chalice Speedrun Guide
[YouTube] Bloodborne: Chalice speedrun to Cursed Rotted Foetid Isz (embed)
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp
>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq (embed)
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/
>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS (embed)
>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne
>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner (embed)
>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx (embed)
o do who thinks the dlc is going to kick bloodborne back into life? Like for a while. I personally would love to see it go on for a lot longer now considering all the amazing stuff in the dlc.
second for beast saif is underrated
Anyone got beast form webms?
Is the bowblade worth investing if Im just pure BLT? Plan to use bloodletter and chikage but need to know if I should put a point into skill or not
Aah, you were at my side, all along.
>>123504726
More like Church Pick. That thing is fantastic.
Welp new thread means im off.
I cant wait to actually get to Amelia on NG+ and see the dlc stuff
Night bbg good luck on those bosses.
How get bowblade?
>>123504868
Okay so the boom hammer takes a fuck ton of stamina and is slow as hell. amygdalan arm is okay
Considering how Queen Yarhnam is present in mergo's nightmare which we now know is a nightmare realm of Loran, and the existence bastard of Loran, along with her feotus being fossilised inside her womb, and how the game gives us the wedding ring which emphasises the nature of vows and covenants, could it be that Yarhnam promised to bear the child of Oedon, only to cheat on him with a mortal, probably a person from Loran?
Oedon finding out about Yarhnam's infedelity could have killed the developing child in her stomach whilst allowing her to birth his formless child, and as punishment, drew the land of Loran into the nightmare realm whilst causing the beast plague there.
Thats why Annalise refuses our offer of marriage. She treats the tale of Yarhnam as a cautionary tale, and rather than settling down with you would rather continue to fuck as many other men as she can in the hopes of one day bearing a child, whilst gathering the sperm of others. And like the good friend/Kosm saying kek you are, you go back to hunting other men and taking their sperm for your queen, like a dog fetching a stick for its master.
Like seriously, do you even get any rewards for turning into semen samples other than being listed on Annalise's nice guy list?
She probably only fucks alphas that hit like trucks, like Crowsteel. He was probably vising parying a visit to Amelia, his girl on the side when you encounter him in the cathedral.
>>123504806
IT'S ME, LUDWIG.
IT WAS ME ALL ALONG.
>>123504975
I don't think it was the case with Yharnam. Also, the stone isn't really the baby, it's Yharnam herself. She's an undead queen just like annalise, Yharnam stone is what's left of her, just like when you pick up queenly flesh, especially considering how similar both item descriptions really are.
Mergo was stillborn and dead in the waking world, but the school of mensis managed to summon him in the nightmare.
>>123504961
do you happen to know how scaling on that works? I assume arcane only scales for the transformed mode ride?
Is "laurence is the hardest boss" a meme? Boss is a reskin cleric beast, come on now.
>>123505181
>>>/v/ is thattaway, anon
>>123505181
half of the battle is a reskin
the other half is nightmare mode
>>123505181
It's just kind of annoying when he'll swipe you once on ng+5 and pretty much OHK you
Did you make it, Ludwig-anon? Standing by the fog just in case.
Is it ok to do the DLC right after Vicar or should I go a little further?
>>123504926
Reach the last lamp prior to the final DLC boss
>Finally do chalice dungeons
>Lower Pthumerian Labyrinth
>Rom
>Haha rom, should be easy, what can a change of area do to make this hard
>He kicks my ass in multiple times
Alright I'm done, I'll try him again tomorrow
Friendly reminder that Ludwig: The Holy Blade is the best OST in the game
>tfw no making of video
Goddamn Chalice's are the most boring shit after doing them once.
>>123505369
If you mean me >>123500085
I killed him earlier, ran around looking for items and found the Whirligig axe, decided to try it out, nailed itwith valtr
How do I do the wind up continious chainsawing with this thing though?
Hype as fuck for fight club on saturday
>>123504961
>>123505110
thats not the right webm, and uh no. Like the blade of mercy and burial blade (etc) it HAS an arc scaling but its only if you out arc gems on it.
anyone got a 14 ps+ free trial laying around? i need to summon help for the dlc.
>>123504975
>Considering how Queen Yarhnam is present in mergo's nightmare which we now know is a nightmare realm of Loran, and the existence bastard of Loran, along with her feotus being fossilised inside her womb
How do we know all that
How do beat Headless Bloodletting Beast?
I just want the Platnium, I'm so close but I just can beat this asshole.
What weapon is best? I have Threaded Cane +10, and a +9 Riederpalach and Pizza Cutter. Serrated Damage and fire paper would be best, right?
Is it possible to visceral this guy? That's been my go-to stratedgy: I have 50 SKL and +V.ATC runes and take out 1/4 of a bosses health at once, but I've never got an oppurtinity on this guy.
I've tried hugging his leg, but he always backs into a corner and I can't see shit.
That was the 2nd time i finished someone else ludwig with a viceral attack
gj anons
>>123505416
You probably want to get to level 60 first
>>123504806
I can't believe the VO pulled off horse noises that well.
>>123505617
Hold L2 to activate Lawn-Mower mode.
You can stunlock enemies and kill them ludicrously fast. If a small Fish Man hasn't attacked and you start the L2 attack he won't recover until he's dead.
HOLY SHIT GUYS LISTEN THE FUCK UP
IF YOU HAVE KILLED MARIA AND HAD NOT SPOKE TO THE DOLL YET, RETURN TO THE HUNTER'S DREAM AND TALK TO THE DOLL. SHE HAS NEW DIALOGUE
Also the dialogue seems to be non repeatable. So if you killed Maria, returned to the hunter's dream to level up or something and just hammered X to skip dialogue, you won't hear it again. Ever.
>>123505617
No, it was another guy, but we just made it. Even finished him with a visceral.
>>123505770
Thanks for the help! That double fisting was beautiful!
>>123505786
Not him but if im in ng+ for the first time, currently at gascoigne lvl 86 around when should i go in the dlc area? I was planning asap.
someone need some help? want some jolly cooperation
>>123505857
What does she say?
>>123505848
O sweetendurance builds when?
>>123505668
Fight him like normal BLB.
Stay between his legs stroking his balls with your weapon. Except this time when his worm pops out start hitting his worm. And be careful to not get hit by anything his worm shoots at you
>tfw you will never git gud
>>123505928
ahh kos, and just kos, kosm btfo
>>123505857
The doll also has new dialogue after you kill Orphan of Kos and attack the shadow.
>>123505906
I could really use some help on NG+ Laurence.
>display Character Name instead of Online ID
>invaded by some chucklefuck named Ludwig just before the actual Ludwig
>pump him full of lead and visceral him to death
>laugh
>boss Ludwig curbstomps us five minutes later
>>123505857
Yes, it is almost explicitly clear that Maria was a close apprentice of Gehrman but his 'mania' previously referenced by the doll's clothes suggests he had a weird probably voyuer-like obsession with her that extended to when the Church and Byrgenwerth abandoned him
>>123505928
She says she feels that a weight has been lifted from her, which confirms the doll was shaped after Maria.
>>123505893
idk about ng+, it should be pretty hard though considering the dlc is challenging at 60-70 level on ng
Hey guys so i just purchased Old Hunters DLC through the ps4, but i dont know how to actually download it. Can i get some help?
>>123506016
i will do my best anon
what's the pass?
R8 my build /bbg/
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7853
>>123505857
And just as an added piece of information:
none of the doll's dialogue after the two bosses happen if you're doing the DLC during the time in which the house in the hunter's dream is on fire. So it's a good idea to do everything post amelia but pre-wet nurse
>>123505848
Does it kill durability?
>>123506040
The 'mania' was him mourning the loss of his pupil and close comrade. You people are taking the joke book in the bookshelf way too seriously. Gehrman wasn't some kind of crazed pervert.
>>123506102
bbgee, if any of you who just killed Ludwig want to join you're welcome
so I fucked up eileen's questline and I can't get her rune, should I put points into end or do other runes make up for it?
I hate Vicar Amelia.
>>123506146
>http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7853
What the hell are you planning to do with this build? Low on skill and strength, strong on vitality, arcane and bloodtinge? I wonder how you'll win PvP fights, seriously.
>>123505938
I want to try a Powder Keg build focusing on holding L2 for as long as possible.
When fighting Laurerncewith Bucket BroI got almost 4000 damage when he fell over facing away from me.
Any boss that goes immobile for a length of time gets destroyed by the Pizza Cutter, or in coop when they are facing someone else you can stand behind them and rip them to shreds.
>farming BLT attack blood gems
SUFFERING
>>123506315
ringing in front of fog door
>>123506092
PS4 should automatically download and install it. If the key item still isn't showing up you might have to go to account management under system settings (I think) and then click a button that says "refresh license"
![Nanking_bodies_1937[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BeBSFZp.jpg "Nanking_bodies_1937[1].jpg")
Hey guys we actually see a younger, two legged Gehrman in the trailer for the DLC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I&feature=youtu.be&t=56
We used to think it was a place holder NPC and thought nothing of it, except now we have been granted eyes by the nightmare, and everything falls into place.
>Gherman actually cries out Laurence's name when he is sleeping
>the crying sound the orphan makes actually sounds really similar to Gehrman's sobs in the dreams
Do you think Gehrman has lived for so long in the hunter's dream that he's forgotten about his misdeeds, or do the memories still come back to haunt him?
What if the doll actually avoids him because it when the Moon presence brought it to life, it actually brought the hatred Maria had for him when she committed suicide, and so all the doll feels for Gehrman is infact an irrational hatred?
Pic kinda related- probably what the village looked like after Byrgenwerth was done with it.
I can't get Adelaine to ask for more brain fluid. I've done it once and have taken her blood.
I've already killed living failures too. How do progress this quest.
>>123505857
Maria = Doll
amys arm is okay and its extended doesnt do as much damage as it should
Why can't I ring my beckoning bell near Vicar Amelia? Or in this area at all.. The old hunter belle didn't even show up. I took the back door from BSB to get here so I didn't have to shell 10k for a fucking key.
>>123506310
I don't think so because the mania reference is made in the item description for Maria's clothing as well.
"Mari is distantly related to the undead queen, but had great admiration for Gehrman, unaware of his curious mania."
The diction, even though you can say mistranslation or whatever, is such that the mania was happening during their relationship but she was unaware of it and just had admiration on his hunter ability. I wouldn't agree with it being a mistranslation because this narrative works a lot more
Just beat Vicar Amelia for the first time, first game. Should I enter the DLC now or wait until later?
Bowblade worth investing in blt for?
Pizza cutter, qual or pure str?
>>123506697
Wait, it's way too hard for you unless you're very good at souls.
Shit anon, I just wanted to show you when the big guy murders the bell lady
>>123506672
It has 2 hit components when tricked. Both the club portion and the claw can hit. The claw does much more damage but there's a sweetspot where you can hit someone with both components for max damage.
>>123506694
you can open the door without the key if you're already on vicar amelia
also you need to open all the doors in the zone for the bell to make it work
>>123506762
What's a good level for DLC?
>>123506762
Kek, considering it took me a million attempts to kill Amelia solo I'll wait then. Thanks anon
>Almost full Health
>Laurence does one sweep with his left Claw
>Kills me with that
I have 30 Vitality and the Rune that gives 15% more Health. How.
>>123506672
The follow up moves on the R2 swing in transformed mode can be great, because if you whiff on the charged slam and are in a decent enough position from the enemy, just don't doge and let the living arm start swiping on its own and you can catch a guy who tries to move in on you too soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
>that scene with the electric saw cleaver
Did we ever figure out what this was about? I know people theorized that it would be for Bolt/Fire gems, because the effect is much lighter than a Bolt Paper.
But it seems it got scrapped maybe?
Can the bow be used for parry?
Can the fist of gratia be used for parry?
>>123506202
>house on fire
Everythingisfine.gif
That 1hit KO was kinda funny laurence anon
>>123506852
80+
So I've finished the DLC plus main game except for Moon Presence. I have +10 pizza cutter but pretty shitty gems. Time to start doing chalices I guess
>>123506934
It's literally the same footage they used in pre release trailers, it got put in the new trailer for filler
Probably an old bolt paper effect that looked slightly different
>>123506640
Keep using the blood and reloading the area, then talking to her.
>>123507021
Where is the subscribe button for this blog?
>>123506851
Oh okay. Thanks.
>>123506695
>if Gehrman actually imprinted the ball rune onto himself and took the shot, he and Maria could have left all the killing and bloodshed behind them, and made a new start
Whats her name and why haven't you worked up the courage yet /bbg/?
just reached Byrgenwyrth on my first playthrough
how much fun am i gonna have, y'all?
>You will never see Gascoigne, Gehrman, and Ludwig the Holy Blade will get together at a local pub and drink a fine pint of Yharnam Ale to relax and reminisce about the good old days of their youth
Does the DLC only effect stuff in the new area or does it effect everything else outside the area?
Just got the game and wondering if its best playing my first playthrough with the DLC installed.
>>123507132
you must accept eyes therefore no mercy for insects
>>123507215
something with a tapeworm on it's head was taking 1/5th of the damage i normally do, and then grappled me to an instakill
fun stuff
>>123505868
>>123507183
DLC is a separated area from the vanilla game.
FUCK, those sweeps, how the fuck do you deal with them
I'm just going to get my own burial blade
I find it amazing that Ludwig had already gone far off the deep end but managed to regain his sanity.
Did he have that much willpower or did the sight of his sword drag him back?
yo the church cannon only takes 10 bullets, pretty sure this is old news but it also looks fucking amazing
>>123505637
JUST GO MENSIS AND REKT THE REDDITORS
>>123506965
Why not post it?
>>123507412
>the buckethead
It's modern art, anon. Beautiful
>>123507412
>the dolphins
kek
>>123506913
It's RNG dude you can press buttons all you want but nothing will happen other than you dying
>>123507482
The sword drew him back. It supposedly has ties to the moon presence.
>>123507467
i've already beat this piece of shit and know from memory all his attacks already
just wait and see for the 2nd phase you will trip and broke your controller with his crawling attack through the entire room
also does laurance take more damage from fire?.....cus he's already on fire....
>>123507412
>just shaman blade me bro
I lost it
How many new enemies are in the DLC?
How is the Orphan alive? I mean there's that whole GO's can't give birth and yearn for a surrogate thing
Why can I not give another brain fluid to Adeline? does she only take one?
>>123507797
None, they're all just recycles/rehashes of enemies in the base game.
What are the best gems in the main game and DLC? I'll go spelunking in dungeons eventually but for now I want to be part of all the increased activity brought on by the DLC. I've already gotten the +18% in yaharghul
What are the stat requirements for Rakuyo?
>>123507816
Because she died in childbirth instead
They're supposed to lose their children, she did in a different way.
I honestly don't understand this "Ludwig is hard" thing. Killed him first try on both ng and ng+, but every person who summons me dies to him.
I just plain don't get it.
Starting a new save and I want to go 50/25 STR/Arc. How much stamina/vitality should I have? What kind of Gems should I be farming for? Anything else I need to know?
>>123507412
>1v1 me luci no gems
>give me time
>die on first attempt on laurence
>Equip bone ash
>Breeze through second attempt
Who said this was hard?
>>123507875
Beat the next boss first.
>>123507915
farm the winter lanterns in mensis for ~19% physical curse gems
I can't beat Laurence on Ng Plus.. Help please?
What's the highest BLT blood gem a Bloodlicker could drop? Also, does it drop radial Blood ATK?
So killed antler guy and looted the bow, and key off Simon. Are there multiple invasions for the pieces? Should I go into antler guys cell?
>>123507929
Huh. That sounds a little far fetched but pretty cool
>Glorious Moonlight Holy Sword
>my mentor, my guide
>purge the filth of the research hall and take down the rejects
>also jesus christ that boss fight went from oh, celestial emissary buff? to SKY AND COSMOS ARE ONE
>take on Maria, can't wait for some awesome 1v1 hunter on hunter action
>she splits my arcane waifu wide open with her futa dick and breaks my Moonlight sword in half over her knee
JESUS CHRIST THAT FIGHT THOUGH, IT'S INCREDIBLY AWESOME. ALL THEM GHERMAN AND PETROLPENNY STYLE FEELINGS
Sucks I can't use the moonlight, it's just way too slow and open to counters. Luckily I had a Saif upgraded and was relying on that before Ludwig's was up to snuff. I need to just git gud at the fight but I think the Saif can handle it.
My only question really is, should I set it to bolt or Fire? Got about equal damage on either, just need to set the gems.
It also goes without saying, this is some of the best Souls content ever. I mean, on my other character which is a quality build, I fell in love with the fucking Pizza cutter! I thought it'd be dumb as hell but I give it one shot since Valtr used it, and it turns out to be one of the best.
>>123507896
Wait, really?
Even the fish people are rehashed?
>>123507134
There aren't any "good old days" or places to relax in Yharnam. It's just a fucking terrible nightmare 24/7.
>>123508246
Yep, plucked right from the base game.
>>123508246
No, he's just shitposting.
It's the same guy who complains about laurance in every thread, be prepared for months of incessant shitposting.
I'm still a retard
what exactly did burgerworth and the hunters to do the fishing hamlet?
>>123508171
You might've fucked up by killing him. I'm not sure, but it sounds really possible that he won't invade you if he's dead
But yeah he drops a different piece at each different location
>>123507896
1/10
>>123508410
Murder everyone by drilling holes into their skulls
![250[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/xjJvQ0L.png "250[1].png")
Hey guys, what if with the 2 headed horse Ludwig monster, the second head isn't actually a vermin, but it is in fact Ludwig's escort Kirk?
>Ludwig and Kirk go insane in the dungeons,
>Ludwig then discovers the moon light blade which guides him back to sanity
>him and Kirk eventually succumbs to bloodlust anyway and are sucked into hunter's nightmare
>they end up being fused together
I need one more hunter for NG+ Laurence. Beckoning near the fog gate. Pass is bbg321. I'd summon Valtr, but he does fucking nothing and costs an extra insight.
My hearth is fucking bumping that was awesome
gj scythe bro
>>123508410
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
Holy SHIT thanks for the help with Laurence anon, you handled that shit perfectly
>>123508410
Murder the fish people
Dissect their bodies in search of eyes on the inside
pissed off the orphan of kos for killing the fish villagers.
>>123508565
>raping fish
>>123508534
>SUMMONING ON FIRST PLAY OF DLC
>>>/twitch/
Whats the best weapon from the dlc, that isnt arc scaling garbo?
>Whale Giants jumping into you from 2 screens away
Are +6 Weapons enough for DLC?
>>123508645
>first
Can the bow parry?
>>123508669
Pizza Cutter.
>>123508350
Ok, so how many new enemies are there?
I saw a giant man with tentacle face, the large brain patients, fish people, giant fish men, and the snails. What else is there?
>been helping people with Ludwig all day today and yesterday
>have yet to find a host who beats the boss
>still can't figure out placement based on his moveset because he goes all over the arena
I dread when i finally fight him for myself.
>>123508491
just as retarded as the "You fight Laurence's corpse as the Bloodletting Beast in the Chalice Dungeons" theory
>>123507816
>the wisps look like slugs
>>123508753
it can backstab, not sure if it can parry
>>123508645
>heh that wasn't that hard
He said after being level 100 on NG. Have fun with anything NG+ and above. I bet you don't have anyone to celebrate thanksgiving.
>>123508469
They probably did it out of jealousy and rage in seeing a bunch of primitive hut dwellers being given eldritch knowledge while they havent, and took extra delight in torturing the populace.
In some of the huts, we find piles of burnt bodies tied together, with all the potos of oils nearby.
Byrgenwerths hunters could have actually chosen to have all of the villagers burnt alive like heretics, and the Orphan of Kos actually tried to save the people by making it rain, and when that didn't work, tried to flood the town.
>>123508070
Thanks. Any place for blt gems?
>>123508578
you just go and upgrade a scythe to 10? or what?
also that was a pretty good fight
Who was freaky enough to bang Kos? Some guy saw that and decided "i'll fuck it"
>>123508739
Yeah, as long as you upgrade along the way. There's a lot of materials scattered around
>>123508895
Why do people think the orphan gives even the slightest fuck about the villagers?
Cosmic horrors being totally and utterly indifferent and unempathetic towards humanity is a major sustained theme of the genre.
>>123508810
Heres a tip: when he raises his sword to do the AOE, run at him and to his side as soon as the explosion happens.
His magic flame thrower attack has really bad tracking and locks him into the animation for a few seconds.
>you literally kill Ludwig by staying by his side
>like his sword
>>123508890
Sorry not an american, and I was level 86 with +8 weapons. Just git gud, or go back to twitch with that summoning ish
>>123508939
Nah I had a +10 uncanny version, I just moved some gems around. I spent LOT of time chalice dungeons, I have most weapons from the vanilla game at +10 or +9.
>>123508895
>>123508583
so, they killed everyone to try and learn as much as possible about all the stuff they knew
and the fish people are fallout from that? or was it a hamlet of fish people, who got slaughtered but appear again in the nightmare?
So Maria.
Denizen of fishing hamlet that found out what byrgenwerth did or just sympathetic unrelated hunter that found out what byrgenwerth did?
>>123509027
Do you think he had a choice?
She probably pinned him down, slithered a dozen narrow, slimy tentacles down his urethra and drank his jizzm directly from the source.
>>123509039
"The Great Ones that inhabit the nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and often answer when called upon"
Did you even play the game or are you just here to be a shitposting retard?
So the only female beast patient in the hunter's nightmare just happens to be hanging out with the BSB. Is that his mate or something?
>>123508437
Sorry I meant killed him when he invaded. Haven't went down in his cell though.
>>123509039
Because in bloodborne they are described as sympathetic in spirit. They provide humanity with comsic knowledge and hybrid alien babies.
>>123508024
dude you're so good! great job! well done friend!
Who drops arcane gems in DLC?
>>123505652
25str/50arc?
>>123509039
The Great Ones in BB are actually friendly, friendly meaning they transform you into abhorrent snail people
>>123509138
The villagers could have started evolving into fish people as they gained elder knowledge, like the Innsmouth folk.
The giant whale monsters also look a lot like the undead giants in the chalice dungeons. They could very well be guardians created by the great ones to protect their followers.
that could be the reason why the church giants are all mutated humans, because the great ones saw the crimes the church committed against their followers, and refused to grant them protection.
>>123509138
The orphan made them closer to kin.
He was providing guidance to the villagers.
Thats why the orphan was really pissed off when they started murdering the villagers.
>>123509247
>The Great Ones that inhabit the nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and often answer when called upon
Referring specifically to the great ones in the nightmare of mensis, who are sympathetic towards the cause.
That's not a basis for generalizing all great ones being fundamentally empathetic towards people.
>Spent hours last night trying to beat Kos on NG, succeeding after god knows how many attempts. Ended up furious at the game
>Went through the DLC on NG+, beat Kos first try, Rakuyo+10 with a 566 AR did enough damage to avoid him even transforming into his second form until he had about 2% health.
Thanks 50 SKL+Clawmark rune, motherfucker crumpled under your mighty visceral attack damage.
I'm on NG++ and losing my shit over Ludwig.
>>123509142
She took part in the massacre, and then threw her weapon away in disgust. She stopped hunting, and instead took a research role, trying to care for the abominations the church later created in its experiments.
Eventually she committed suicide from the guilt. The coffin we step on to get to the clock portal is her coffin.
>>123509461
>That's not a basis for generalizing all great ones being fundamentally empathetic towards people.
Well Ebriates certainly is, and everything points to Kos also being friendly towards humans.
>>123508934
I think those ugly frog looking things at the beginning of cainhurst drop blt gems. I know the ones in the dlc do
I don't know shit about Chalice Dungeons, where can I get some good gems for a bloodtinge build?
>>123509514
summon the guy in the alcove where the fatty is and valtr and just go hard
>>123509428
As I see not everyone so good. But their birth ritual is pure evil.
Do you get anything for keeping Valtr alive during a boss fight? He keeps dying to Laurence.
>>123509574
The ballsack fleas?
>>123509414
nope, 40/40
So what's the most common level for regular NG DLC?
70? 100?
>>123509573
>everything points to Kos also being friendly towards humans
Except that the only contact humankind has with Kos is when its corpse washed up on shore.
>>123509715
60-70
>making Ludwig bossfight
>"everybody loves the memesword so even the plebs know his name. what should we do? we gotta make a spectacular bossfight that shines a light on this character and his fall"
>making Laurence bossfight
>"this is arguably the most important character in this game's lore. what should we do? eeeh, just do cleric beast again, but this time his punch is explosions"
why are rom's spiders doing my entire health bar with a lunge attack
>>123505181
half the fight is banking on you fighting him exactly as regular cleric beast.
>>123509461
There isn't a single one that hasn't tried to help in one way or another
Amygdala was summoned by the school of mensis and in turn helped them make contact with mergo
Rom was keeping things from going down the shitter
Ebrietas was providing the choir with knowledge
Orphan was helping the villagers ascend to a higher plane
>>123509461
even in lovecraft stories Great ones care for the ones who workshiped them
like the order of dagon
anyone knows a Isz glyph with anti clockwise 20%?
i don't feel like grinding lower loran
>>123509750
Well she helped Rom and the villagers seem to lament whatever the church did to her
He also created the Hunter's Nightmare to punish the hunters for what they did in the village.
>>123509795
Truthfully, Laurence is probably the best of a bad situation.
>>123509795
You cut Laurence's legs off, and kill him as he crawls around in lava pouring from his wounds. Are you not entertained?
>>123509832
>Orphan was helping the villagers ascend to a higher plane
And where is your source for this?
>>123509795
Wait.
The flaming Cleric Beast in that Cathedral is the Laurence bossfight I've been looking forward to?
Just what the fuck are the bloodlickers? They aren't hostile to the crazed hunters buy they ARE hostile to other beasts.
>>123509693
yee
>>123510013
The fact that he was turning them into Kin?
>>123509715
Initially 60-70, but they 3rd/4th half 80-90. The actual last boss is a doozy, even with max gems.
How many unique bosses are in the chalice dungeons that aren't reused enemies?
>>123510059
Ask Vilebloods. They're probably remains of some dead Great One
>>123510013
The description for the first brain fluid sample you find.
HOLY SHIT THE RAKUYO IS GOD TIER.
Does anybody want to fight Laurence? Need some help if possible. NG+4, so you'll get lots of souls.
This fight is really hard
>>123510032
I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm so sorry, bro. Just know that there have been many of us who have gone through the same thing as you. We're here for you if you need to talk.
>>123510180
Shitloads.
Seriously. Skipping the Chalices is for idiots. Go see some cool stuff. Co-op to make it easier/faster if you want.
>>123510136
The fact that the villagers were turning into fishmonsters doesn't mean the Orphan was deliberately transforming them, or helping them. Cosmic horrors passively reshaping the landscape of reality around them, and people transforming into horrible monsters through gaining forbidden knowledge and through contact with an eldritch horror are both common themes in the genre. Neither would suggest that the Orphan was going along 'blessing' villagers with kinship.
>Peeve has spent almost as much time on NG+7 Orphan as most people spend on an entire playthrough
Anyone up for helping me fight Ludwig? BL44 here, this majestic horror horse is giving me one hell of a ride.
>>123510216
The fire dog and bloodletting beast aren't unique?
>>123510059
I thought they're infected with cainhurst beast blood. I thought they were the cainhurst nobles that were like vampires, degenerating into the most basic primeval form of a vampire.
>>123510279
Villagers was friendly before masacare. Thats point of dlc.
>tfw 100% DLC
>still confused
I'm at the end of NG so talking to the doll doesn't do shit.
I'm so horribly confused about everything that happens after Maria.
>>123510179
I am more interested in the co-op/invasion levels
But thanks, will consider
Tips on the giants that drop Rakuyo?
I've gotten pretty good at parrying them but I keep getting killed when the 2nd one comes in.
>Maria drained me of ally my vials and bullets
Christ this girl's a monster. I didn't have a lot in reserve but still.
What's a good place to coop for someone level 69?
I want to grind some blood echoes and help some people.
>>123510470
shaman bone
>>123509795
No one responding to shitposts on /v/?
>>123510279
If this is based on lovecraft stories they turned into those fishes by drinking the orphan of kos blood
>>123510470
Burn. Burn. BURN THE first one. Relax near 50% to unleash.
>>123510259
Very fun the 1st time, excruciating the 2nd-8th time...Was really hoping they would add some chalice shortcuts in the dlc (to skip Pthemeru 1-3 at least, giving you Defiled and materials to make it) but alas, still have to spend useless hours just to get to where everyone wants to be at Depth 5
>>123510279
That doesn't even happen in lovecraft's work though
Innsmouth was only full of fish people because they were worshiping and interbreeding with deep ones for generations.
Also, none of the ayy lmaos in the game turned spontaneously, they were made this way.
>>123510279
The orphan itself was a child who didnt know any better.
Thats why it started throwing out elder knowledge to anyone nearby, like the little brother and sister, while others only shared it with those deemed worthy, such as the brain of Mensis and the moon rune.
The mensis brain gives you the rune that awards more echos per kill because it was actually asking you to kill it and end its suffering
>>123510539
Hey, it's true. The DLC is pretty cool overall, but that doesn't change the fact that Laurance is boring rehashed shit and only a massive drone would have the audacity to claim otherwise.
Summoning for Laurence
pw face
BL 100
First lamp
Executioners not allowed
Expect a LOT OF SOULS.
>>123510548
Or something similar. It could very well be the corpse of Kos itself they were interacting with, more likely, or its parasites.
>>123510419
more or less:
>kos was a neat nice great one for a fishing village
>byrgenworth came by and beat the shit out of her and drug her hot white ass out of the ocean
>she's not even alive to witness the birth of her child, in typical great one "no kids allowed" fashion
>fishing village freaks the fuck out and is transformed into a strain of kin at some point in time, arguably even before kos's death
>maria throws her sword away after participating in deicide, since apparently that's where she draws the line and not at tormenting fellow human beings until they're nothing more than puddlebags of brain liquid screaming for death
>kills herself after taking care of one too many puddles because she realized she's an autistic retard for see above
any questions?
>>123509414
>Who drops arcane gems in DLC?
halp
>>123510508
Reminder she has the same weakness as the other human enemies. You can visceral her for days
>>123510258
It's the one point where a spoiler actually helped me out so there's that.
Plus the rest of the DLC is spot-on shit, research hall is almost literally what I wanted the Upper Cathedral ward to contain.
>>123510648
Agreed.
Hunter's Nightmare area is also really lacklusters. I don't think there's a single new enemy in that area.
>>123510806
Giant tentacle faced axe monsters
>>123510720
i think Kos was already dead when it washed up on shore, the Kos parasite kind of mentions this.
is
BL 98
40
25
50
20
7
6
good for beast claws? any suggestions?
>>123510870
Reskinned executioner enemy with one new attack.
Wow.
>>123507412
Okay i'm so unfunny i'm just gonna stop here. Goodnight
Is there a way to get physical gems in the DLC, also what percentage are they?
>>123510806
Hunter's area supposed to be in original game. You can see it in Nightmar Frontier
Holy shit bow blade has some sexy as fuck scaling
>>123510508
>600 blood vials before fighting Ludwig
>ended at 160 four hours later
>now stuck with on Orphan
A combination of challenging DLC, a four month break, and NG+++
Can anybody help with getting blood rocks in chalice dungeons? Having a hard time understanding how people get them if its not pure chance.
>>123510958
There's two Winter Lanterns in the tunnels before Orphan that drop 22.3% physical droplets.
They're also really quick to farm, it's great.
>>123510806
>>123510930
hunters, dogs,cannon executioner, new traps, the delayed molotov guys and they dont have "one new attack".
>>123510660
Parasites can't inhabit a human body
You need to turn into kin to be able to bear a phantasm into your body
Also i don't know why you insist on the orphan being indifferent so much, all the other great ones have shown to actually care for humanity in one way or another.
>>123511091
You can look up seeds to get to them, but they only appear on the deeper dungeons.
>>123510720
Why do the brain bags whatever scream for Maria's approval?
Also you had me until
>and not tormenting ect
>>123511091
Google glyphs that have guaranteed blood rocks in chest. If you have already gotten one from every chalice type, then I assume Layer 3-4 bosses are the only way to get more.
