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>>123500360
>tripfag
>that comment
Just kill yourself already, newfag.
>>123500238
>this angry autism about thread numbers that you made a fake #2000 thread when it's actually thread #1999
>even made it early
>STILL NO MADOLCHE TOP LINKS
>STILL NO TELLARS TOP LINKS
>STILL NO BA TOP LINKS
Source = Your ass
>Regional tops
LOL
>>123500492
Stop shitposting.
>>123500491
Shut up Uva the only Greeed that mattered less was Gamel and at least he was tied to Mezool.
What is the budget deck of the format?
Nothing pendulum based is cheap thanks to Luster
>>123500773
Geargia.
zth for hoban criticizing penjaloons
>Dinomist deck is just pepe minus some perfomapals
Dinosaurs can never ever be good?
>pretty much no tripfags in the last thread
>best thread we had in a long time
>thread almost at the post limit
>someone obviously tried to derail the thread
>king monarch and vorcia suddenly start posting
Geeez I wonder who could be behind this.
>>123500938
>jackie bernal is mexican xddd
>best thread
Get the fuck out
>>123500773
Pendulum Magicians don't even play Luster.
Since the Pendulum mechanic was first released last summer they haven’t had too much of an impact on the game.
>>123500932
Dinomist isn't even Dinosaur-type
>>123500773
Monarchs are poverty tier
>>123501070
Holy shit, are you the guy who posted her videos? No one fucking cares about that fat mexican slut. Fuck off.
>>123501079
pendulum magician souns really shitty for being a pendulum deck if they dont use the best pendulum scale ever printed
>>123500773
Deskbots
>>123500492
>>>123499987
>http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Satellarknight
>http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Burning+Abyss
>http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Madolche
>>123501186
I care.
>Draw a lion
>Spellcaster-type
>>123501220
>only regional tops
>regional tops on third world countries
MEGA LOL
MUCH CREDIBLE
TOTALLY METAGAME
>>123501195
Maybe you should play the deck and look at the cards before talking shit.
Its actually pretty good.
>>123501291
It's a MAGIC LION
>>123500932
Really? I noticed Konami's list but I mean, Luster Pendulum doesn't even count their Level 5s. The ysummon themselves but I mean, for a deck that wants to use its monsters as tributes, or uses Luster in general to blow them up and generate ca, I can't believe they fucked up so bad and made half their monsters not even summonable by the Dracorivals pendulum scales. It's embarassing. It's horrible how bad they fucked up robot dinosaurs.
>>123501079
They actually can and sometimes did but it was closer to the end of the deck's lifespan in OCG, when people were figuring out Luster Pendulum was really good in other pendulum decks.
Why isn't it unbanned yet?
>>123501325
>Moving the goalposts
You just said tops, you never said major tops, you never said us tops, you just said tops.
>>123501325
>post what you asked for. Again.
>keks at it
I shouldn't even give you this reply.
>>123501347
Then why is not a Beast-Spellcaster-type?
>>123500773
Fluffals I guess once americans get tiger reprint
>>123501792
>Yugioh now fully adopts dual-types and Beast-Warriors are retconned into working with Beast, Beast-Warrior and Warrior support cards.
How does the game change?
>>123502130
Koa'ki Meiru Fire Fist T1. 'Lmao 7 ROTAs', including ROTA.
>>123501454
>>123501669
I'm the guy who first argued with him, and I knew this would happen from the start. You can't argue with fucking retards online, they try to save face to keep their anonymous street cred intact.
Also, Chaos dragons topped an american reg and ls topped the ARG.
>>123502445
Chaos Dragons confirmed meta
>>123502526
Chaos dragons confirmed to be able to not do fucking awful for the first time in years because our tier 1 decks are so weak.
>>123501367
I didn't know ocg started playing Luster in Magicians. I guess I wil have to trie it out.
Pendulum Magicians lifespan ended because Ememe was simply better at the R4 game, right? We don't have shockmaster and Giant Hand. We may not even get to play Infinity in those decks.
Pendulum Magicians might have a future in the tcg.
>>123502656
>CED is getting unbanned and unlimited next format
CDs tier 1
>>123502743
It was easy to miss since it was right when DOCS came out with Majespecters and when Performapendulums started becoming their own deck and separating from Magicians. There might have been instances before but that was when I noticed it
>>123502743
They also had Pendulum Wizard
I don't understand how a piece of shit general like /dng/ reached 2000 threads before the mods decided to purge them.
Anyway, favorite thread of this or past years?
>>123503112
They didn't always play Pendulum Sorcerer at first. It might have ended up the wrong way to play the deck but it was still a valid way that did successfully top tournaments, so the deck will almost definitely still be intact when it shows in TCG even if we don't get Sorcerer.
>>123503438
The first Exiled thread.
>>123503438
Any thread during the Dragon Ruler format.
>>123503601
Target 1 face-up monster. That's it. Don't do anything to it, just point at it and declare you've targeted that monster.
>>123503438
I don't understand why you just don't leave instead of complaining and shitting up threads
>>123503438
The day I started, and the day I stopped, posting with my Iron Core trip. It was a blast to use my /dng/-related tripcode, but being a tripfag is boring and full of shitposters. I don't know why the others still do it.
>>123503438
My favorite thread was when Pilica turned into a drama queen and left the general because of the shitposting.
Good job giving free money to retards that hate you.
>>123503438
The one where I forgot to put my trip when I posted under AtmosX
>>123502743
Pendulum Magicians are better EMEms in the TCG since the TCG R7 game beats the TCG R4 game even though it is the opposite to ridiculous degrees in the OCG.
And this will likely hold true until at the very least the arrival of The Lightning.
http://pastebin.com/eJb0KguQ
I apologize for posting a text list. I can't find any help for Vampires that isn't pre-Nekroz, and I'm not at a PC.
To the anon trying to help me last night, sorry I sounded like a complete shitter, Hiro suddenly decided to block my IP range last night so I couldn't correct myself.
>>123504829
>admiting ban evasion
You know what comes next
>>123504414
We get raffelesa and cyber dragon infinity in BOSH
>>123505240
I didn't evade. I'm posting from my phone, and every month or so my posts start coming out of an IP that is blocked for a day or two.
>>123504829
Trying to fit in a third book of life comes to mind
Especially since you're running 3x Kingdom
>>123504414
Exactly my thoughts.
>>123505249
Thats not as good as Giant Hand and Shockmaster and konami might ban Ptol in time for BOSH.
>>123505354
No, you're evading and no excuse will change that.
>Tfw you lose connection when you're losing
It wasn't a ragequit I swear
>>123505540
Shut up retard.
>>123505476
I want to, but like Stormforth it ends up being cloggy T1 when I draw even one, let alone 2. I might try it again just to see if it's worth it.
> Mr.Vet Sr. When women see him, they want him. When men see him, they want to be him. When children see him, they hold his cane when he opens the door. The father of one kid, two nations, and countless moments of god-like skill, it is a common sight to see his fans posting for him with his trademarked jpg, 'Who the FUCK are you' whenever a newfag arrives. Vet is winky disk's premier pilot, though it remains to see whether Vet shall defeat time itself.
How did I not see this bullshit earlier?
>>123505529
Banlist comes after BOSH so we're gonna have Infinity Ptol meta for a bit and we have Giant Hand.
>>123505249
I still doubt that's enough to come out ontop until The Lightning hits.
But they will no doubt be a huge boost that's for sure.
Azathoth is nowhere to be seen as well though so there will no Ptol -> Azathoth combos. Just Raffle and Infinity.
>>123506994
>>123505249
I'd also like to point out that Xiangke Magician shits all over Ptol and Infinity.
>>123506791
The far majority of players don't have giant hand.
>>123506791
> we have Giant Hand.
It's a prize card though
>>123506994
That's ignoring how PePe gets Ariadne Warning to negate everything/much more consistent scales thanks to clash, and synchro 8 thanks to Masked Chameleon
They aren't only R4
>>123506994
Lightning is really not that big of a deal. He's good at what he does but he's an answer and only that. He isn't what's making Rank 4 good. He's answer to floaters and large monsters. We have other individual Xyz that answer those things, and they aren't as good as Utopia the Lightning since they can only answer one of the two things (though Dweller still has advantages since he stops things from floating in other ways than destroying them by battle, but Diamond King Crab and Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon pretty much have been totally outclassed by the Lightning). He isn't a card doing something Rank 4 can't do anyway and can't function without, that's more like Ptolaemaeus > Nova > Infinity or even Rafflesia more than the Lightning. He's just super efficient at answering what he needs to.
>>123507257
>>123507186
I'm sorry, I should've said the players *who matter* have Giant Hand (i.e. not you two)
>>123507265
>That's ignoring how PePe gets Ariadne Warning to negate
That is true. You are right.
>Thinking of building gem-Knights
>Get my hands on 2 brilliant fusions and a garnet for $5
>Try to pick up last Brillant fuse and Garnets
>Price rise, so instead of being $2 each they're $10
>Guess I'll play igknights
>Templar STILL $10
>Then Fluffals
>King of the Swamps and Mouse
Why the FUCK are pet deck cards EVER >$10?
I swear it's not even that much more expensive to play Pepe or Magicians since I already got the Lusters for <$5 and avians for trades
>>123500732
>All these rider fags
Feels good man
>>123507301
>He isn't what's making Rank 4 good.
He expands the toolbox and is a powerful card that does its job really well at that.
It's for sure no doubt a card to carry R4 by itself. But its inclusion does wonders.
If The Lightning was all there was I wouldn't bet much on R4s. If Ptol -> Infinity was all there was I wouldn't bet much on R4. And Raffle wouldn't be enough for me to bet on it either.
But all together? That's a lot better. But I really do think it will fall short without Infinity. That's my impression from having played TCG/OCG.
But I can very well be wrong. I admit that. It's my bet though.
>>123505776
Vet truly is the last great tripfag
>>123507808
>tripfag
I'm guessing you don't know the meaning of the term
>>123507808
TRIP ON, VET
>>123507909
>>123507649
Nothing can do the equivalent of Ptolemaeus into Infinity, or Rafflesia, but you can play 2 different Xyz that do the (virtually) same job as Utopia the Lightning. That's the difference I was trying to make between them. He's the best at doing those jobs but he isn't the only option and the other ones are perfectly good cards on their own, just worse than Utopia the Lightning in terms of efficiency (since he can do either or instead of one or the other). Having to play Diamond King Crab and/or Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon to answer 28+ monsters that can't be removed for one reason or another with effects isn't going to make Rank 4 significantly worse.
>>123507503
You don't even need mouse and technically don't need swamp if you want to play a mixed build using XYZ or synchro
But only scum would do that
>>123507265
To be fair Magicians aren't just R7 either.
They have R4, R6 and Synchro too. And Odd-Eyes builds will have Vortex.
Dragonpit and Dragonpulse also have very useful and readily available pendulum effects.
how good is Burning Abyss now?
Will it get better when Beatrice arrives
>>123508029
For the record the cards that I'm saying do the job of Utopia the Lightning are Dweller and Diamond King Crab/Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon, not just the latter two, it's just that Dweller is still worth playing and Utopia the Lightning only totally outclassed them.
>>123507952
>I was only acting retarded
Eric
>>123507153
>Infinity eff
>Xiangke ;^)
>Infinity eff?
It does shit on Ptolmao though.
>>123505719
Anyone else have any advice on Vampires? I want them to be as playable as possible so I don't feel like I wasted money when I build them in real cardboard.
>>123507949
I'm playing video games shh.
>>123508254
Xiangke isn't hard OPT though. And being readily searchable you will easily have 2.
And it completely blocks Ptol from even doing its job if you already have one on the field.
>>123508265
Are any of the cards any bit of pricey? Last time I saw Shadow was worth a few bucks.
>>123507153
Most people don't run more than 2 since it kinda clogs sometimes in a deck with a single high scale and doesn't do anything against decks with no light monsters.
>>123508287
What're you playing? I'm replaying Banjo-Kazooie for the dozenth time.
>>123508512
The actually Vampire cards aren't. And most of the Zombie support have commons, so no, it's very budget. But it's still money spent, since no one will have them and I'll be forced to buy online rather than trade. And while I have most of the synchros, O M E G A is very important and very expensive.
>>123508495
>leaving 2 Xiangke on board unless you were disrupted with artifact scythe or something beforehand
This never happens
Besides, clowns make it easy as fuck to just
>Dracoslayer, pop plush fire, shit out a monster, pendulum 3 out, Castel xiangke, discard trick clown, Ptol because magicians run monster floodgates instead of disruption
>>123508797
Yeah the extra deck stuff gets pricey but as soon as you buy a couple or a playset of the extra deck staples you're pretty set.
Jesus Christ I was playing some Banjo and Kazooie with a friend of mine and she's at the point with the Pyramid desert level and etc and it's confusing as fuck.
I'm currently playing Left 4 Dead 2 Multi while my son plays LBP3
>>123507265
>PePe
Meme loving shit. Take your frog to Reddit.
>>123509238
Nobody knows what I mean when I say 3PM or Dracomages.
>>123509305
Then just say EMEm.
Or at the very least PPPM or PP-PM.
>>123509458
It isn't EMEm in TCG yet, you don't play Performapals. Though why the deck isn't just called Performages is beyond me.
>>123509458
EMEm is a different deck since it stars Pendulum Wizard as the Em part and it's super unlikely that we'll get him. Nobody wants to use Monkeyboard/Lizardraw/Guiturtle if they're not searchable via pendulum wizard
>>123509115
I mean it's not like I don't already have staples, it's basically just Omega. I have never payed $30+ for a card, and I hate paying anything $20+ for things with limited use. At least Omega is semi-splashable.
>>123509673
Actually, I don't think it's unlikely the deck plays Performapals, especially after Monkeyboard. Monkeyboard is an extremely strong card. It's better with Sorcerer but Monkeyboard makes Performpals a legitimate pendulum and card advantage engine I think, especially with Dokurobat Joker.
>>123509883
Monkeyboard's too good not to run
>>123509824
Forgot picture.
The desert section ain't shit, I'm stuck in Rusty Bucket Bay. Haven't played in so long my shit memory already forgot where them Jiggies at.
>>123509963
I mean heck, just playing either Monkeyboard or Dokurobat Joker into the other is a +2 by itself that leaves you with a Scale set and a Level 4 on board. Monkeyboard gets so little fanfare but he's really kind of like a mini Scout, and a worse Scout is still a good card in my opinion. It might not be worth it without Dokurobat Joker too, but we know we're getting both eventually for sure and when so.
>>123509673
>Nobody wants to use Monkeyboard/Lizardraw/Guiturtle if they're not searchable via pendulum wizard
/dng/ EVERYONE
>>123510140
>>123509883
>Dokurobat
Who? It's a pretty good engine to run with Skullcrobat and the two draw guys since it gives you a good amount of draws and other shit
>>123509883
>>123510140
>Dokurobat
Who?
>10 matches today
>7 of them were Blue-Eyes shitters
you nostalgiafags need to leave
>>123510140
>Performapal Skullcrobat Joker
>SDMP-EN006
>Master of Pendulum
>December 4
7 days anon. 7 days.
>>123510169
>yfw /dng/ is one person
>yfw you're insulting yourself
>yfw you're also calling yourself out on your own bullshit
>>123510140
Actually it's even better, it's a Level 4 on board and both Scales set technically if you use the last search to set the second scale, so my mistake. Card is really good. It makes Performapals its own engine, in my opinion even moreso than just Joker + Sorcerer was. I still don't quite get how they worked with each other to the point that it was so strong even before to be honest. I mean it was clearly good I just never exactly understood how it worked since you kind of have to jump through hoops to get Sorcerer to work and Joker doesn't really help set up the hoop.
I just kind of wish Guiturtle drew a card when yo uactivated him while you icontrolled another Performapal pendulum rather than drawing a card when you activate one once per turn. The latter is technically better in the sense that you get more draws but holy shit imagine Dokurobat Joker > Monkeyboard > Guiturtle. You can't contain card advantage of this magnitude off 1 card.
>>123509673
>Monkeyboard/Lizardraw/Guiturtle if they're not searchable via pendulum wizard
I want you to make yourself aware of this cards existence and then realize how fucking stupid you sound. The card is going to be TCG legal in 7 days
SEVEN DAYS
How can one person be this fucking dense and ignorant?
>>123510550
I mean even still I think Monkeyboard is good enough to play Performapals without Dokurobat Joker but since you won't ever have to play lemon keyboard face.jpg without him then there's no point in wondering I guess.
Will I ever stop being my archetype's punching bag, /dng/? Even the TURTLE gets to be on our player's side more than me.
>>123510429
It will top events once it releases. Youll see. Everyone will start ditching pendulums and go back to Clownblade for the first play
>>123510140
It's useful for deck thinning and psuedo advantage but I don't see any specific use for it without Pendulum Wizard who enables the pendulum floaters. You just get joker who uses your normal summon to search a level 6 and a level 1 in r4.dek
>>123510753
Kaiju confirmed kek.dek
>>123510753
Gameciel can NEGATE AND BANISH shit. Not even OPT
>>123510828
>pseudo advantage
>pseudo advantage
>pseudo advantage
Using "pseudo" instead of "fake" doesn't make it any less stupid
>>123511023
People usually use empty
>>123510828
The reason pendulum floaters are good is because they can be pendulum summoned back. Monkeyboard sets your scales at card advantage. It's kind of like a Pendulum Call that's a +1 instead of card parity. Now you can argue that without Sorcerer the critical mass for a deck abusing the destruction triggers of pendulum monsters isn't there but I don't think that's the case either, since we're still seeing that deck in TCG already and Monkeyboard is one of the most efficient ways to set scales. I'd argue one of the Performapendulum's only weaknesses prior to him was that they couldn't recover so well if they were actually caught with their pants down and put all their eggs in one board state and got blown out. Now they have a card they can search or draw that by itself throws that out the window, and is good even outside of the doomsday scenario, and that's pretty powerful
>>123511083
My least favorite meme
So this happened yesterday. My opponent used Charge of the Light Brigade and milled his last Lightsworn. What happens?
>>123511640
They scoop
>>123511640
Nothing? What do you think happens? You just reverse the mill? Yugioh is pretty stupid but not that stupid.
>>123511640
Charge fizzles.
>>123511640
what do you think?
>>123511640
Illegal activation, he has to commit Seppuku
But for real though this is an easy fucking ruling
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade
>>123511640
Ruined game state, call judge, get them a game loss
>>123510753
No, I have you sided in my Kaiju Dolls for a reason.
Speaking of which, share pictures of your opening hands.
Also while Im thinking about "things that would have made already good decks even more awesome" like Guiturtle drawing a card when activated instead of when another is activated, even if Pendulum Call didn't have the destruction prevention effect and you could Insight after it. Contain your orgasms
>PePe Gadgets topped something
?
>>123512108
>Replaces itself on summon
>NS any, PS the second, R4
I can see it.
What are some silly techs for PePe? I recently made the deck, and I want to run silly stuff.
>>123512376
Brilliant Fusion you degenerate grinch poster
i feel like making a cheap pendulum deck
can PePe be good/decent without the expensive cards?
or should i wait for magicians?
>>123510995
But, y'know, Kumongous has more attack points and can like restrict attacks and monster effects.
>I run floodgates
>>123512852
Deskbots are all common. Try them.
>>123512894
Gameciel is only good to give your opponent if you don't have Kyoutou up.
While still pretty gay, ARC-V's porn output has had a comparatively high levels of hetero.
What deck has the highest skill cap?
>>123513060
>Deskbots
ok i will check
what about igknights? do they really need templar
If I end up with 2 Kaiju, I just tossed one right? Like if I Graydle a Kaiju but already have one. The One that would be traversing to my side just hits the dirt?
>>123513060
I still can't quite figure out what Deskbots do and I want to really like them since I love their art, but looking at the lists for the deck I've seen in OCG I guess don't get it really. The latest one I've seen played a lot of higher level synchros with the tuners being Veiler and 001. Do you really synchro that much? How do you do it that often? The only Xyz were Nova and Infinity obviously. I don't understand the ratios for the Pendulums either.
I want to build this deck but I really have no clue what it does and how it does it just looking at the cards. The lower level deskbots are an engine, but I have no idea what the engine is supposed to enable.
>>123513087
Watashi no Soba de Naite and Watashi o Daite Tonde are incredible works of art.
>>123513462
Deskbots' specialty is scooping
>>123513519
Deskbots actually top though
>>123513462
003 and 004 special summons any level combination you need to synchro just about anything.
And since they are earth attributes you can also synchro Naturia synchros.
And then there are the pendulums for whenever you use them.
>>123513596
But isn't 001 the only tuner? Or did I miss one? What's some easy playsequences that involve less than 3 cards that put strong synchros on board?
>>123513386
You couldn't Graydle a Kaiju, as it would directly cause an illegal gamestate. If you somehow had 2 Book of Eclipse'd or some weird ass Reasoning thing, it's up to a judge which one will self-destruct via game mechanics.
>>123513314
Igknights need everything, and need expensive ED staples.
>>123513462
I don't know their ins and outs, maybe >>123513596 knows them better.
>>123513805
>You wouldn't Graydle a Kaiju.jpg
>>123513951
>le put meme in front of things I don't like renders them invalid meme
Exquisite memepost, Jack
>>123514046
>y-you meme post doesn't count!
lol...
>>123513926
>implying I wouldn't ram my Graydle up Gameciel's phat amphibian ass
>>123513951
How about "full of shit", is that a meme?
>>123513926
I would if it wasn't illegal, PSA
>>123514269
If you want to make your entire existence a meme, sure
>>123514269
Made me laugh out loud
>>123514236
Reminds me that my bad dragon flesh light is on the way. Feels good.
>>123514132
You can't fight nature, Jack.
>>123514481
>>123514691
>>123513462
Three of everything. Wavering. Pop 5 and 6 all the time. ignister pop 5 ss 2 search 5. 5 is your best scale, use it as often as you can. 7 and 8 are good late game when your grave is full. 7 has trample and makes ignister with 1. 8 double attacks monsters. You can relatively easily do XYZ with them, and 4, 5, and 6 recur from grave. 4 can also run over almost anything in battle on its own, and recurs shit when it does.
Machine dupe on 2 is basically gg on its own. 3 recruits any of them from deck.
1 gains 500 atk for each machine type you have, and recurs itself from grave when you p-summon 2 machines. It is the absolute fucking ideal tuner for pendulums. They're also all earth so you can plonk down the naturia synchros.
>"I have a Dark Magician deck."
>it's just a basic Pendulum Magician deck with 3 Dark Magicians
>mfw
>gem-knight garnet has doubled in price and is stilll rising
What does it mean?
>>123515324
It's not like they lied
Happy 2000 guysYGO is still shit
#RIPDarkWorld
#GraphaTheGreatest
>>123513779
There's no easy first turn shit, which is the major problem. They don't have a strong early game at all. Your best hope early on is to either 3>1 and sit on arc light or get 4 on field and hide behind it being difficult to run over, and also hope your opponent is retarded enough to try to attack it. Basically stun till you explode.
>>123515558
#2000 is next thread, Neffie.
>>123515558
I didn't know you were still around, NerffieFuck Dark Worlds
>>123515679
Oh, RIP
>>123515686
I still talk to the nerds from here elsewhere but not about YGO.Don't play Hearthstone by the way, that shit was a mistake.
>>123515558
It's in all probability not actually the 2000th thread.
>>123515582
I dunno man. I want to like this deck and it does have random tops in OCG so I feel like I could play it not feel bad but I just don't "see" anything. At least when Nekroz used Deskbots the engine they were going for and what they intended to do with it was obvious but man. It's not even like there's enough tops from one version of the deck to even put together a list from what I can gather since the tops are so sparse and far apart. The latest top only played 2 of each Pendulum besides 5 which desu does make sense since 5 is definitely the best, and 7 makes Ignister, so I Can see him too. I don't really get why you'd play 8 especially without Xyz (the deck didn't play any besides Nova and Infinity), so I guess the issue is more I dont' see why you'd play any of them besides them unless it was to make Xyz off Machine Dupe but the deck didn't play all 3 copies, and it played all the pendulums but not all 3 of each but still played 2 Wavering.
>>123513779
003 by itself equals Arc Light.
003 + Risebell equals Naturia Beast or any other level 5 Synchro.
003 + Machine Duplication equals Infinity.
003 + Machine Duplication with one or more 001 in your graveyard equals just about any Synchro you want.
003 + Double Summon gives you Trishula, or Barkion, or any other level 6, 7, or 9 Synchro.
004 + any other Deskbot equals Naturia Beast just about any other Synchro in MP2 if you successfully use its effect during the damage step.
004 doing the above + Risebell equals an option for either Infinity or Synchro, Trishula included.
Pendulum with 001 in the graveyard usually lets you do good extra deck plays.
There is more stuff you can do but that's some of it. Not to mention that Deskbots are fearsome beatsticks even without the extra deck.
>>123515980
>Double Summon
>Risebell
Into the trash it goes
Come to think of it, didn't we reach 2000 a while ago?
>>123515887
>Hearthstone
I feel sorry for you
I hope the next 2000 threads are filled with kindness and friendship :)
>>123515558
What the fuck made you post here?
>>123516163
I took up playingDuelystthough, it's alright so far. Still dabble in Magic on occasion.
I actually thought about picking this back up for a few games when I learned there was a Sentai tribal but I looked over the cards and also realized how many card essays I would have to read and just said "nah". Plus they seemed gimmicky.
>>123516342
Nothing really beyond the 2000 thing and just wanting to peek in.
Be nice, it's nice of them to congratulate us for 2000 fun threads
>>123516097
Those are two card combos. And pretty potent two card combos if I were to say so myself.
Risebell is even searchable. And the low scale is compatible with regular Deskbot pendulum plays.
And Double Summon is a very potent card in Deskbots. Especially since 003 isn't OPT.
What are the odds of them releasing a Toon Structure deck?
I want to build one, but I don't want them selling a cheap one after I spend a lot because if Toon Kingdom
>>123516452
I didn't know you cared about tokusatsu stuff. Super Quantum are kind of gimmicky but its balanced out by the deck also focusing on generic value generating etb triggers and graveyard triggers. The gimmick is mostly just "make Xyz without actually Xyz summoning".
>>123516942
Not going to happen
>>123515965
8 is good because double attacks and it gets bigger the more bots you have in grave. It's also a great target for dank strike fighter if you run it. You could also throw in felgrand or any other generic R8. The real problem is that there's just not enough extra deck space.
>>123515548
Is there such a thing as an almost nearly half-decent Dark Magician or Eye of Timaeus deck?
They're pretty cool, but seem utterly useless.
>>123517146
Dark magician daigusto emeral turbo.
>>123517146
It's all complete garbage, unless DM and DMG get a retrain that let's you access the spells/traps they have.
>>123517249
Cosmo Queen Turbo is cooler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57xEVHrYvE
>>123516942
Maybe after they get all their new ones and an extra gimmicks like Tooners or something for Toon synchros but they're spamming new ones every set for no real reason right now
>>123517140
Double attackers aren't good by themselves, especially when they can only be done on monsters, and being a beater is not very good either. In fact I can't think of any double attacker that could only attack monsters that was ever good, and even fewer that were high level monsters in the maindeck and not just things you could toolbox from the extra.
One thing I've always thought is that I kind of feel like Geargiauger into accelerator was a pretty good generic machine engine. It costs some momentum but it does search out your important cards. But I've never seen a Deskbot list play them despite how important 2, 3, and 4 are so I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's a good idea.
>>123517146
Odd eyes magician starring Ebony Illusion
>>123516992
It's less about the Tokusatsu and more about animal mecha than anything. And Blue is dickable.
>>123517417
It's only good if your forced to go first.
Every turn after that you should be trying to OTK.
>>123517627
Layer Blue really is attractive. She reminds me of Akiba Blue. Too bad I don't foresee any other female ones.
>>123517873
But I mean, you kind of have to HAVE the OTK in hand to be trying to OTK every other turn. If you don't have it but you do have Auger, then Auger gets you a card closer to some sort of combo than you were before (presumably without cutting any of the actually good cards obviously to play them). And if you draw Accelerator and Auger together mid-late game you can just summon them together without using Auger's effect. But I get the momentum issue.
>>123517385
Toons are awesome, no more reasons neededexcept chibi Buster Blader, he looks weird
How long until rescue hamster becomes broken as fuck?
>2015
>still no rescue skunk
>>123517873
>>123518045
Also
>Forced to go first
I honestly don't know how it came to be that we care enough about momentum to not play stuff like Auger or Duality but we don't go first because we don't have an extra card over the opponent. This is one of those things I don't get. You lose momentum going first because you let the opponent do their own thing before you and now you have to focus on playing around what they did or have. I know there's fewer upsides to going first than in Magic (where it gets you the extra land drop) but technically the extra upside you got in Magic is something we don't need in Yugioh since we can just play our cards anyway and the point of getting the land drop first was being able to play your good cards first. I kind of thought the novelty of their being an upside to going second besides just being able to attack at all would have worn off by now
>>123516942
The archetype just needs something like this for speed and versatility.
>>123518450
>You lose momentum going first
Going second
>>123518450
>Forced to go first
>Bad
I don't see how, especially with so many retards siding backrow hate rather than maining it.
If you open BTH, Warning, Vanity's, and a decent monster you can set 4, summon 1 pass and then your opponent is stuck having to waste resources in an attempt to grind your backrow.
It's redundant.
Going first has always been strong, and will remain strong.
>>123518298
Once we get another splashable floating pendulum scale who can blow itself up.
Like an Igknight floater or something
The best you can do now is like plushfire+Draco into summoning damage juggler, summon jigobyte, xyz and detach juggler, grab masked chameleon/jigobyte, plushfire scale, wavering eyes and add rescue hamster, then have 2 in extra, free scales, and hamster in hand for a play. I'm sure you could loop something there.
>>123518745
I think maybe I wasn't clear, I'm saying what you're saying, though it extends to more than just playing around backrow, and not being forced to summon a Castel to answer an opponent's threat and instead are allowed to do a bread and butter ca generating play, like King of the Feral Imps or Majester Pendulum for example in Performapendulums. I was assuming the guy I was replying to was implying that you would never go first unless you were forced and therefore is a bad thing
>>123518298
Never. Rat is a disappointment to the family.
>>123518450
>but we don't go first because we don't have an extra card over the opponent
I'm sure you're talking in general but deskbot's have fragile fields that are easily rid of and settable backrow doesn't help you OTK. Deskbots going first don't really have a stun play that forces your opponent to play around besides Arc light so going first is just really undesirable because your opponent WILL clear your field and you'll have lost the majority of your momentum, the best you can do is prepare for the next turn by making Arc light OR setting up for next turn which you might live long enough to see but that's for OTK or die decks.
>>123519360
I kind of hope they make another Pendulum rescue monster just to make up for Rat. It'd be a hilarious acknowledgement. Like "Ok guys the first one was a mistake, here's the REAL Rescue monster for pendulums". They could probably do it by making something like Level 4 tribute this card activate 2 pendulums with different names from the deck. Maybe have it negate their pendulum effects or something if you need some sort of fake limitation on it. ez
>>123519624
I mean, you don't just have to have a stun play from the extra deck. Going first means you also get to play traps (whether its permission like Notices or combo cards like Call/Spring/Powerful Rebirth) and just summon monsters unimpeded (barring I guess stuff like Veiler which mitigates the card advantage the opponent gains anyway). I was speaking in general and I do believe there are some decks that would rather go second but I think even then it's only some of the time.
What's your shittiest deck idea you think could work somehow?
I'm trying to find a way to mix Shiranui and Vampires.
>>123519859
>>123519624
Also I'm of the opinion that any play that makes your opponent have to answer it is better than one that just lets your opponent do whatever (like the Castel versus King of the Feral Imps example), and going first means your opponent can just do whatever all the time. You lose momentum just by having to answer or play around things after all, even if what your answering is not actually hard to answer. It's just a matter of not letting your opponent do what they actually want to do.
>>123519985
Madolche x-sabers.
>>123519985
I want to like Shiranui but man are they boring. I know they are really damn proud of Mezuki, Zombie Master, and Goblin Zombie but can they come up with a Zombie deck that is just that deck still? Shiranui are the first zombie theme and it's just the plain old zombie deck we've had for years with extra super-Fire Lakes.
I really wish Spectralsword could use its effect the turn it was put in the grave.
>>123519985I actually tried Super Quantum Majespecter when they were first put up on DN. It wasn't actually serious in the sense that I thought it was actually the correct way to play it but the synergy Layer Green has with Majespecters is humorous.
>>123519985
Blue-Eyes Chaos Dragons
>>123520312
>first Zombie theme
Do you mean that as in the first Zombie archetype that features straight up Zombies? Because we have had other archetypes (Skull Servants and Vampires). Both of which have neat mechanics that differ from just "rez everything cuz Zombies".
>>123519985
I'm gonna try Gishki Ra once the cards come out, something to do with Avance/True-name and mound, discarding ra's for ziel
>>123520563
Well I mostly meant the first original one that wasn't built off older legacy cards, but I wasn't actually thinking of them, so you're right.
I think the IDEA of what Shiranui want to do is unique (banish matters and synchros from grave) but the banish matters doesn't matter all that much except again for their super Fire Lake which works in and of itself its not like it combos or is something you build around or anything and the Spectralsword's gravetuning is so slow that it barely even matters it seems like so it just ends up being generic zombie deck with Level 4 and grave synergies featuring bishies.
>>123520186
What do X-Sabers even do?
>>123520490
That sounds rather fun actually, fluffy animals and MEGAZORDS.
>>123520538
That sounds more viable than many decks I've seen, what with Cards of Consonance and Trade-In dropping Lights left and right.
>>123520613
What do Gishkis do (that merits then being Limited)?
>>123520931
gishki guy here, what are you asking about? the base deck?
>Normal Summon Joker to search Monkeyboard
>Monkey to search Liz
>Liz pop itself to draw, play another Liz
>Pendulum Summon Barrier Statue, Rocket, and 2 Liz
>Opponent activates BTH
>Rocket is destroyed
>Draw 3 cards from Liz
Liz is love. Liz is life.
>>123520931
Nothing but TCG was scared of a not-actually-THAT-great combo deck involving Hieratics and Evigishki Gustkraken
>>123521073
Why did you post a picture of a Charmander dressed like a clown?
>>123520931
Sit on pashuul, make naturia synchros. Be outdone by speedyroids.
>>123519985
full hero deck
elemental fusions, evil heroes and masked all on one
>>123521192
You think he just sits in as pokeball all day?
>>123520814
I know what you mean. It seems like Reptiles, they realize the generic support is so great that they don't want them to be good. Hence why I'm trying to mix them with things, so that maybe they won't be utter shit. Vampires mainly because I'm building them anyways, also Duke/Shadow have 0 DEF.
>>123521061
Yeah. I've never seen the deck online or in person, so I have no idea what it does or why it'd mesh with Ra.
>>123521232
That's depressing, I loved the X-Saber art when I was younger.
>>123521262
Even DESTINY HEROES?!
>>123519985
Nordic anything.
They're just not that good. Makes me cry inside.
>>123521321
>Even DESTINY HEROES?!
maybe some of them
and the like 2 vision fusions
>>123521321
Well I mean, I don't think them just being generic zombie deck makes them worse than not being combined with something, in fact on the contrary it's probably for the best they're backwards compatible with the now-lukewarm but still most relevant zombie support we have. I just think it's blasé as heck that they couldn't push the banish matters or gravetuning thing more.
>>123521321
i figure gishki would mesh with ra coz they search and draw quite a lot so they are pretty consistent, they have a level 10 ritual monster i can ditch a dead ra to summon, followed by phantom of chaos, plus they have a secondary theme of gaining knowledge about your topdeck, and putting cards on top of your deck, so true name, ra, and mound all should work in the deck
How many Apex Avian do I need for Odd-Eyes Magicians?
>>123521616
If you play Apex Avian you play all 3
>>123521616
2-3
>>123513805
>>123514236
>>123513926
kaiju are an odly satisfying deck
>>123514046
>>123514132
>>123514787
alot of things are ending when Jack hits the field, almost as if he can
negate memes
>>123520490
I told myself I would never play majespecters but I love me some megazords, deck?
>>123521073
inb4 limited or banned
>>123519985
vampires hands down
I had to put in anime cards just to make it kinda good, MOTHER FUCKING TIME FUSION
>>123521393
Ok, but what if nordic pendulums?
Is nordic's main problem getting shit onto field to synchro with?
>>123521657
>>123521731
Fair enough. What are the odds of getting at least 2 from a Hidden Arsenal 2 box?
>>123521759
You don't really want the deck, like I said it wasn't really meant to be an actually good version of it I just thought it was adorable Layer Green was a Level 4 Wind Spellcaster for Fox, Tempest, and Tornado.
>>123521847
Ya gotta do some math for that friend
>>123521393
My friend is building Nordics irl. They're so bad it's depressing, such good art wasted. He runs Supply Squad and Cardcar D just so he can MAYBE get off his Synchros.
>>123521414
If you can build me a Rogue-level D-Hero deck, I'll suck your dick in a completely hetero fashion. Destiny Heroes was my deck as a kid.
>>123521520
Is it a 1-set archetype like Psyframes? If not, pray for more support. If yes, help me mix them with Vampires to achieve a truely strange deck.
>>123521529
That sounds really neat, I'd love to see that work out.
>>123521759
My KaiDolls agree.
I'm the anon begging for help with Vampires, could you be kind enough to share you best (TCG) build? All the decklists I find are dated as fuck.
>>123521992
only thing with gishki/ra is i have aaaaaaaabsolutely no idea how to summon ra outside of phantom of chaos, or saccing with sphere mode. gishki dont put a lot of monsters out
>>123521991
I don't want to, that's why I ask, but whatever. I guess I'll have to.
>>123521936
That gets triggered off being tributed
>>123521992
Psyframes (and Super Quantums now) were 1-set because of being debut in a special booster. Yosenju got more cards but the new cards were teased by the ones in Tribe Force, and we got no teases for more Psyframe or Super Quantum cards. Im trying to remember an equivalent for DOCS or CORE but I can't remember. Who knows if they'll get more. I'd say that they have one that destroys face-usp but not face-down is indication that they will though.
I couldn't tell you how to build that deck so. I can't think of why you would. The main synergy is the Zombie support you'd use with being combined with each other and the Level 0 support which I think only really matters with Masked Chameleon who as far as I know doesn't really care about Vampires.
greydle, kaijus or spyframes?
>>123522402
PSY-Frame easily
>>123522259
I'll just sacrifice all the kids at my Demo Day to Tewart in hopes we get more.
The 0 DEF synergy is the biggest thing I see, the field would make summoning your Vampires much easier, and the L8 can be brought out with Uni-Zombie + Vampire or Uni-Zombie bumped 1 + Goblin/Shiranui. And you can use Uni to bump the Shiranuis to 5 for Bram. And Vampires dump themselves to have via Takeover/Kingdom to banish for the Shiranuis. Imagine a 5k Ikusagami.
Is there literally any decent deck besides Kozmo right now? Any other potentially good decks (Majespecters, PePe, Pend. Magicians) aren't complete yet and no other current deck seems to compete.
>>123523042
Pepe is already better than Kozmo despite being incomplete.
>>123523156
>Pepe
Dumb frog poster
>>123523042
i know /dng/ is going to fall for this one
PePe is better that kozmos right now
>>123523182
>Literally replied to a post that called the deck Pepe
Memes, the DNA of the soul.
>>123523156
really? can you post a build? I'm having a hard time doing anything with it without the OCG components.
>>123500238
Are Madolches good again??
>>123523364
>again
