Happy Thanksgiving Edition
Previous Thread: >>123452232
Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own risk.
-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/ (Gaben-free Edition)
-The Game's Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm
-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/
-Recommendbin
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6
-Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc
-Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen
-Flockdraw
>flockmod.com/undertale
-Cytube
>Channel: Undertale
-Shimeji Directory
>http://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY
First for defy the despair! No one is beyond SAVEing! You will find a way, just stay DETERMINED!
first for no fucking yhing
What do you say to the idiots who dismiss Undertale as a "tumblr game" without even ever playing it?
Repostin for the new thread.
Gotedad loves ya'll, remember that!
Well back to shitposting, I guess. It was /comfy/ while it lasted.
>>123464760
I don't really talk to such people. When I do I'm asking for their skeleton.
>you will never hug the goat
>>123464736
what the fuck is "yhing"?
xth for best boy!
>>123464760
Just tell them to give the demo a chance and leave it at that. They're clearly gonna stay their ground no matter what points you bring up, just suggest the demo to them and move on.
Fat nerd.
>>123464760
Well first off you're probably even dumber than them.
>>123464807
no patches?
minimal content?
no problem! we have a goat! you'll be here forever!
>>123464809
it is like "thing", but spelled by drunk teethless bum
>>123464824
does it mean I perma-die or that I revert to the flower bed
>>123464824
Will I still respawn at fixed points when I die or am I dead for good
xth for not leaving mommy behind
Skelebros best bros.
>>123464881
Patch to stay with the goat in the flower field forever when?
>>123464868
Don't bully the lizard.
I finally finished stitching/ making everything higher case wing dings because I have mental problems.
>>123464871
Meaning what?
>>123464967Reminds me of the bro that hates me.
>>123464898
>>123464897
you're dead son
>>123465020
Thanks anon. Nobody should have to put up with lowercase using scum.
>>123465020
>>123464981
But I think fat gay web lizard is adorable.
>>123465020
What's happening here? Sans has had an eye surgery of some kind and can only see out of one eye now?
So tell me /utg/, whats your fetish and how would you feel if your favorite undertale character preformed that fetish for you in your own bedroom?
>>123465142
Shouldn't it be "this instant"?
>>123465142
Last one.
Original: http://fluffymilktea.tumblr.com/post/132525417243/1-2-3-5-6-9-this-series-will-now-be-name
And Wing Ding only version for whatever reason: https://imgur.com/a/HHQGI
>>123465147
She is.
Doesn't mean you should bully her.
>>123465198
>mindbreak
>PapyrusHim mindbreaking me is not possible, os it must be the other way around.That..that makes me shiver.
>>123464970
actually that's already a feature, just, don't leave
>>123465020
Doing god's work, son
>>123465198
>chara
>scatit'd probably smell pretty good in my room afterwards
>>123465138
Yeah. It's a long comic so it was too annoying. I spent far too much time on it.
>>123465149
Some fans like to think Sans got his powers via science, basically.
>>123465224
I don't think English was the artists first language. I fixed some grammar oddities, but not all of them.
Posting a stitch I did this morning
>>123465243
Those of us in hell appreciate it.
>>123465243
Thank you for all your hard work anon.
>>123465243
>shorty
Top kek.
>>123465370STOP
>>123465245
Does it make it better that I'm also a fat nerd? Not a gay lizard though.
My misadventures in Torielfacing continues. I couldn't figure muzzles out so I'm trying a few alternatives. The top right is how I'd normally draw her face (the main complaints being simplistic, flat, typecast eyes, not enough snoot). I played with different eye shapes to help break myself out of that.
Are any of these better? I really wanna be able to draw cute goatmoms.
And I'm sorry if I seem bloggy or spamming, I just don't know where else I can turn to for this.
What if Chara was the one responsible for the war between humans and monsters?
>>123465198
>too many to list
>Asriel
It'd feel incredibly uncomfortableor did, I had an awkward dream about that
I do not want to sexualize the goat
>>123465198
>asriel
>[/spoiler]hugs and kisses.[/spoiler]
>45
>have grandchildren
>have a life, a wife, a good paying job, plenty of friends
>can't stop thinking about hugging dumb goat nerd
what is wrong with me
what have you done to me toby
>>123465417
What. Don't find it,humerus?
>>123465364
You're welcome, void dweller.
>>123465398
No problem. It was good practice with gimp and pocket Gaster kept me company.
>>123465142
I'm too lazy to read it, what does the "note to self" part say?
>>123465358
>mettaton
>frisks parent
Is this because of that 'undertale according to people who havent played undertale' image?
>>123465467
Retire early, start a goat farm.
>>123465473
I think were passing the point of no return.
>>123465486
The original version on the guys site has it in regular letters.Come join us in the void, anon.
>>123465498
I dunno. I just think of it as another AU.It's cute.
>>123465550
We already did that when the demo came out and there was countless lewds of goatmom.
>>123465127
>>123464824
>i convince toriel to take me with her crying i'm afraid to be left alone so i'm not killed by a goddamn vegetables
>i steal the whole fucking pie
>i don't move at all during toriel fight, i can endure few minutes of 3-rd degree burns for a life of peace
>i convince paps to escort me to snowdin by mixture of crying, puzzle effort and flattery
>i live in skelebro's shed to the rest of my life petting dogs and hanging out with paps
>if i'm low on money I tell Sans Fart Mc Flatulent password and warn him if he doesn't provide me the world will end or some shit
>>123465358
The artist's handwriting is painful to read, but that was cute.
>>123465423
No excuse for bullying the lizard.
It's just inefficient, considering she bullies herself enough as is.
How do I properly an hero so I can join Gaster in the void
This world is shit.
>>123465607
>literally becoming the nuggies/good boy points guy to Sans
Worse than Jerry.
>>123465693
If you an hero you can't be best friends with GoatBro anymore.
>>123465693
First, intent the CORE.
Then, jump into it in a poorly thought out attempt at impressing your peers.
>>123465448
Anon, if the intro is anything to go by, the War happened many years before Chara was even born on the first place.
Any skelefuckers still around?
>>123465672
I could alwayslewdthe lizard instead.Assuming Undyne is down for a 3-way.
>>123465742
What if I don't really care about goat kid?
>>123465769
Eh...too much work. I'll just stay here and keep shitposting with you fags, I guess.
Evening, /utg/.
How was your day today?
Where there updated to this comic?
>>123465693
Just lift your head up high and blow your brains out.
>>123465716
you know frisk wants a slice of that butterscotch-cinnamon Oedi-pie.
>>123465445
I'm art and anatomy illiterate as fuck, but here goes - I think what irks me the most is how thin the muzzle is compared to the rest of the head. I mean, I guess that might be a part of your style, but it seems like it's either too thin and when you get the width sort-of right, it's not long enough. Feel me?
Might just be my personal preferences interfering, but hey, I guess some feedback is better than none, yea?
>>123465824
If you don't like goatkid you're wrong.
>>123465818Unless you are a girl, I don't think Undyne will be interested. Although she may make a exception if Alphys really wants that.
>>123465829
shit because i still have issues talking to people
other then that pretty fine
>>123465149
I don't get what that beam of light is supposed to be or why it's there.
>>123465835
*was this comic updated.
Fuck I can't English
>>123465693
Start by learning wing dings, then find a core to jump into.
>>123465835
http://mspaintguyfromdoorchins.tumblr.com/
I'd have posted sounds_of_flower_ecstasy.png but the written consent from his lawyer didn't fax fast enough
>>123465818
I don't think either of them are.
Why would you need anyone else when you've got the perfect match already?
>>123465498
>>123465575
I like to think everybody is Frisk's uncle/aunt, all of which want to spend a day having fun with the kid every once in a while.
Even Mettaton, who takes a break from his tour just to go out with his adoptive nephew.
>>123465918Undyne strikes me as the type who would go for anyone with a lot of passion - which probably means she'd pass on me since I sit around shitposting the gay weeb lizard in this thread instead of doing literally anything else.Alphys would go for it though. Girl's a freak.
https://soundcloud.com/bit-conure/papyrus-no
>>123460187
>Chara and Flowey in the kitchen making breakfast!
Pie is absolutely part of a normal breakfast I swear
>>123465243
>baby sized gaster blasters
that's cute
>>123465829
It was okay, a pretty calm day so far. And you?
>>123465857
It makes sense but it might be that I'm just not fully grasping what's expected. I honestly liked how I drew her head originally! I was proud of it, but when you get multiple anons (and some non-anons) going on about the same issues then those issues should be fixed.
So basically I need to make the nose wider is what you're saying. Maybe it's that I never saw Tori as having a huge snout to begin with, and that was just how the spritework was.
I'll play with the snout some more and get back to you while waiting for any other feedback. Can I ask which of the eyes looked the best to you?
>beloved by Undyne
>Alphys had a crush on him to the point of experimenting on living beings just to fulfill his wishes
>respected by everyone
>except Toriel
>but he only want to be with his wife and his child
Why is he so based?
>>123465281
i went back for both my very first run, when i talked to asriel and he said the exact same thing, i was like aweh heeeeelllllll no at first
(but then i cried again)
Best partner.;_;
>>123465829
Pretty good so far, still getting properly caffeinated before doing some writing exercises and maybe rifling through some Black Friday sales. I really want a mechanical keyboard.
How's your day been, anon?
>>123465984
What this guy said, Alphys would be too enamored with Undyne and if you think someone as hot blooded as the fish lady is gonna share her woman with anyone you might be retarded
>>123465978
I thought you had uploaded them on imgur.
>>123465473
post more of that qt snek grill
>>123465947
You'll overcome those issues, eventually. Stay determined, anon.
>>123466064
>>123466128
It was fine, but tiring because a group I'm in had to prepare for a performance.
>>123465984
What if Undyne was only pretending to want yo get Alphys out of her shell, and instead lead her to an unfamiliar house where she was brutally raped by all of the family members of the amalgamates, while Undyne watched, laughing the entire time, as Alphys was utterly broken?
>>123465448
It would be a cool prequel to see what caused teh war between the monsters and if it was caused by some peculiar evil man or monster
>>123464687
>Russian Fandom for Undertale is too fucking based
>>123466041
A really, really good picture my man. You draw Chara so nicely!
Both cute, and a nice excuse for Chara to get hold of a knife... Flowey looks worried.
>>123466162
Sorry pal, don't have any more.
>>123466093
nonono
No sad Chara. Only comforted Chara for now.
>>123466176
WOSH U POST
>>123466039
I could have gone my entire life without hearing that but you just had to go and post that
>>123466176
That would be very out of character for her.
Good night, /utg/.
Don't forget tostay determined.
>>123466041
Cute. Love Flowey's expression.
>>123465417
>Frisk is constantly squinting because they're nearsighted
>>123466210
Russian fandom is pretty great with most things.
>>123466252
Comforted Chara it is then
>>123465445
dont abandon your attempts at taming the snoot anon! i feel you can do it if you keep trying!
(plus i don't really mind looking through all your practice attempts.)
>>123466079
I think you're approaching a point where you have to decide whether things really need fixing or if the way you do things now is just your art style. Of course, I might be talking out of my ass when it comes to advice like this.
As for the eyes, I think it's a tie between "the original" and "has potential"
Thanks for bearing with us, in any case!
>>123465358
Why does everyone always give Mettaton Chun Li thighs even outside of lewd art?
Are fan artists just THAT thirsty?
>>123466319
Goodnight anon, sweet dreams.You too stay determined
>>123466235
Buttercup pie probably isn't his favorite kind
>>123466320
Thanks!
>>123466375
>Are fan artists just THAT thirsty?
Are you really asking that?Of course they are. I mean, come on anon.
>>123466278
Everyone should hear it once in their lives.
>>123466319
sleep well lil skell
I too am heading off to bed,I stayed up all night and if I'm gonna avoid seeing relatives today I have to be extra sluggish so I'll be left behind.
>>123465467
i was actually curious about just how horribly effective that ending was at capturing people in such a way, but i did not expect it to hit quite so deep..
WOOPS i unintentionally filled your heart with emptiness by stealing the one loose end i've been piling importance on for the entire game! woops! just a dumb dog here! woops!
When I go look at other generals and feel lost and confused over their memes and shitposting, I start to realize how we must come off to outsiders.
>>123466331
>>123466319
>stay determined
Too late for that now.
>>123466210
Putin and Russia is a cancer
>>123466375
every character requires Chun Li thighs
>>123466472
Sleep tight anon.
>>123466495
Get out of here Stalker.
>>123466493
>"why do they keep posting 'booby' over and over?"
>>123466531
Gay weeb nerd lizard agrees.
>>123466548
vebrotN
>>123466512
>>123466542
Heт.
Fight me, senpai.
>>123466478
>one loose end i've been piling importance
? Please elaborate.
New page for you sexy anons
1-16 here http://imgur.com/a/hnye5
>>123466584
He said Chun-Li thighs, not Rufus lard folds.
>>123466531
Even Papyrus?
>>123465997
It takes an Underground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuzBWDiVhvI
>>123466626
What
>>123466617
Specially Papyrus.
>>123466614
>VARIOUS OTHER DEGENERATE ACTS OF VARYING LEVELS OF LEWDITY AND OBSCENITY COMMITTED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME BY TWO CONSTENTING INDIVIDUALS OF SOUND MIND
>>123466609
more or less just the slow build-up of backstory on flowey before the asriel reveal, it encourages you to pacify and save everyone so when you get encouraged in that direction and then dicked on it, you get 45 year old healthy men that want to hug little goat boys, probably, but not certainly, platonically
>>123466614
I laughed at that panel with the back.
>>123466649
How many pictures of mad dummy in dresses do you have so far
>>123466616
More for meand fishdykethen.
>>123466531
>Asriel with Chun Li thighs
I can dig it.
>>123465332
A fine patron of the acquired tastes, I see.
>>123465198
>TorielScat
Sated and able to skip dinner
>>123466041
Damn straight pie's for breakfast.
Had a big ol' slice of custard pie this morning.
Save them.
>>123466617
Shit, I had the perfect image for this but now it's lost in the void of my Undertale folder.
>>123466614
This is super gay
>>123466614
10/10
>>123465467
it's because deep down, you can truly relate to what it's like, being alone in the darkness even when you're around other people.
>>123466792
Well, you would feel the same way as eating Nesquick to be honest.
I'd rather have Thanksgiving with you guys.
I just realised that the Monarch got the perfect voice for Papyrus.
>>123466614
I'm actually stoked to see this. Finish it now you nigger
Frisky Chara.
>>123466687
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village
>>123466792
>>123464687
>The height Differences between Daddy!Grillby and Daughter!Fuku
P-Precious!~
>tfw russia
>tfw russia and undertale
Man
That alco smell
That's like
Wow
That smells like a hrushyovka right here, mate.
>>123466974
The difference lies in whom you partake with.
>>123467067
Eheheh.
If I True Reset then want to do True Pacifist again, am I gonna have to do the neutral end again too? Fighting OF and everything?
>>123467040
>There's an actual term for it
This is freaking great. Thanks for the info Anon.
>>123466990
I hope you like spaghetti cause that's all I can make.
>>123467023
>Asriel POV
I didn't know I wanted it until now
>>123467095
Teach us your ways or something!
>>123467023
In color now?
Also I love how Asriel is panicking.
So how shitty did your Thanksgiving start?
>>123467128
Yes.
http://strawpoll.me/6101358
>>123466617
Especially Papyrus.
>>123466990
yea thanks
im still going to my families though
>>123467240
It didn't.Britbong here
>>123467240
I live in a country that does not celebrate Thanksgiving.
>>123467240
My parents made coffee and my dad told me to put carolans in it (I did), now my mom is making breakfast
Feels good man
Favorite Undertale remixes.
Go
>>123466370
Well I'm more than happy to keep posting them until it becomes an issue then. I shall learn to draw them goats. I'm not giving up!
>>123466373
Yeah, that's the thing- I drew pony for a while, so a lot of that style happened to transfer over. No one really cared when I applied it to Asriel, probably because he's a child or I'd never drawn Tori so there was no issue of sameface.
I think I'm on the right track here, though. I don't have to draw it completely out of style, I just gotta break the mold enough to where I'm not trapped in sameface like the anon from last thread pointed out.
What a show it'll be, to go from garbage to gudgoats with the help of /utg/
Ehhhhh
So what happen if you go genocide route first and then do pacifist route? Does something change in the happy ending?
>>123467240
We don't celebrate Thanksgiving in here.
Who else here /notamerican/ and not celebrating Thanksgiving?
>>123467341
https://soundcloud.com/botanicsage/waters-of-megalovania
>>123466745
Not the guy you think I am but I have 7 and am looking for more.
>>123467341
https://youtu.be/GIuBpl7k_eU
>>123467240
I woke up early so I could eat leftover hot dogs before going to work for 9 hours.
i wanna see Asriel riding cowgirl with a cowboy hat saying howdy
i can wait
>>123467240
Can you imagine that not all countries celebrate genocide of native americans and hunting for turkeys?
>>123467364Yes
Play it and find outPartner
>>123467341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx6KpdolfEY
>>123467364
Let's just say everyone is going to have a bad time...
>>123467364
You get the absolute worst end in the game.
Chara takes you over and then kills everyone.
>>123467459
Russia sure does now.
>>123467387
Reporting in; anyone else like to mix a bit of vodka in their afternoon coffee?
>>123467364
The epilogue changes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVX_FiX6k1c
>>123467467
God I hate that artist.
>>123467459
>being this edgy
>>123467465
Nah, just give me the you tube video of some guy who did this.
I just cant stand reading the same text and playing same mini games for the second time.
>>123467402
I can never understand why people love that one. Oh well.
>>123465034
dropping by to comment on the sheer irony of the last 2 replies in this chain.
>>123467387
Who /american/ but not celebrating?
>>123467507
I thought i told you to get out, stalker.
>>123466614
It's exactly how I imagined and more. Now it just needs a climax or two, both of the lewd and non lewd kind-
>>123467467
>mute frisk
>down with CIS artist
>This stupid fucking ''get dunked on'' version of sans which is the entirety of his personality as far as tumblr is concerned
Hmm looking at the true final battle again when you're saving everyone's souls. Anyone else notice that sans is...very pessimistic and isn't talking in his regular voice like everyone else?
what's with that?
>>123467507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VbYZDohsHk
>>123467459
>not celebrating the genocide of the degenerate heathen savage
>>123467341
https://soundcloud.com/napemango/king-dummy
how do we know sans isn't a gorillaz skeleton?
Reposting, just want to know what you guys think as well (i hope you are not brainwashed by its popularity)
I fucking love this game , i loved it just as it came out and i still love it now it's popular as fuck.
HOWEVER, you are massively overrating it. Why? because you got so invested in the writing, characters and story that you just forgot everything else about the game, mainly, THE GAMEPLAY.
Here's an honest, short review (part 1, too many words)
>Gameplay: 6/10
The idea "spare/kill" is great, but the implementation is kinda bad. There's literally no battle system aside from the "hit the middle bar" and heal. The sparing mechanic is literally playing a visual novel, which can be nice, but we all know it's not really gameplay, but rhather choice of what page to read.
The whoel "dodge the bullets" is nice, but it gets great only in boss fights, while in normal fights it gets boring fast.
>Graphics: 6/10
I don't give a shit about graphics as long as it's not ugly as hell, so whatever. But, objectively speaking, the sprites, while decently done, aren't that great either. It's made in GameMaker and it fucking shows.
Character design is great, but it's not really a "graphics" parameter.
>>123467467
>mute frisk
>Sans with a huge belly
UNACCEPTABLE
>>123467387
I didn't even get to celebrate Saint Martin's Day.
>>123467653
It should be clear by the end of the game that sans comedian persona is just an act and he's actually super depressed and pessimistic.
>>123467387
No thanksgiving here, but i like events where there is good food. And not having a good meal right about now is making me a sad panda.
>>123467603
Don't worry, anon. I'm not American, but we can not celebrate together.
>>123467650
Yeah I hate that shit too, oh well cant help that some artist are shit heads.
>>123467284
whoa dude
>>123467357
>I drew pony for a while
Oh damn, that actually explains a lot. I was wondering why your art seemed to be oddly familiar with something, now I know.
You're already making progress, though, I'm loving the leftmost face in that series of three in the bottom.
>>123467496
>open back dress exposing spine
ABSOLUTELY beautiful!
>>123467727
>Music: 9/10
Holy shit this music is awesome. I can find literally 5 tracks that i don't like in a fucking 90 tracks and more OST, with most being simply sex to the ears. It's not 8-bit garbage or retro-music only, we are talking about great themes tailor-suited to the game's occasion, and it does a GREAT job at being perfect for battle themes, enviroment music AND feels-time.
Toby's true talent is music (and he's great at writing too), and you all know it.
>Longevity: 6/10
The pacing is quite bad, and it doesn't last much, even taking replays in consideration. It's short duration isn't a bad thing per se, but the replays could use some work, with only one being radically different from beginning to end, and it involves a fuckton of grinding.
>Story: 8/10
I usually don't give a fuck if it's not an RPG, but this is one, so Story plays a huge role in it.
It's half of the game. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? It's a great EXPERIENCE, but it's not a great GAME. But if you don't give a fuck and just want to enjoy your time spent, then you are in luck. Great characters, a fuckton of jokes and little touches everywhere in the world, great world-building, excellent climax and 4th wall breaking.
So there you have it. A solid 7/10 game, but to compare it to AAA games is fucking retarded and this is by NO MEANS a masterpiece. It's just a decent game with a story so good that it eats every other aspect fo the game.
>>123467664
every time I feel shitty about my drawings I look at that picture and instantly feel better
>>123467653
He is tired of it all.
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Napstablook.
>>123467919
( . ) ( . )
booby
>>123467842
Reminds me of this classic.
https://www.derpibooru.org/104525?scope=scpe1c326a4dd1c47934ef034c32b57d6f5880314259
>>123467984
VERBOTEN
>>123467919
oh.........
>>123467825
Plancescape torment deserve a general more than this game. But since is too old to become popular, it faded away.
>>123467984
BLUE
O
A
R
D
>ponyfag detected
>>123467919
Anon... anon...
Do you know how to triforce?
>>123467842
That's why I always keep around my early drawings. Even if I haven't improved as much as I hoped to, at least I'm no longer where I used to be.
>>123465198
>Asriel>Power Bottom
If it's older asriel, alright. If it's child Asriel, i'd feel very uncomfortable.
>>123467794
It's a mix of pony, Pokemon, various other shit I learned to draw through mimicry and study. At the risk of repeating myself, I failed art class in high school 3 years running since I can't grasp it outside of fundamentals. Anything I do I taught myself how through trial and error- with a lot of advice here and there.I don't draw stuff outside of fanart because I don't feel like I deserve to have anything wasted on myself, even by myself.
>>123468160but what if he didnt feel uncomfortable?
>>123467984
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>>123468145
that's the opposite for me.
I used to be really good at drawing, but now my stuff looks like fermented shit.
can someone please post mettaton in a maid outfit
all of itits for a friend's dick
>>123468263
Did anyone you know become really good at art in the same time?
>>123467240
I just woke up and my stomach already hurts. I'm not sure why.
I think I had an Undertale dream but I faintly remember it.
>>123468263
>managed to delete all of my internet history from my teen years, when I did a lot of art
>really want to see how much I've improved but at the same time very glad that no one can dig up the humiliating shit I did
What do you think drove Chara up Mount Ebott? Were they always pure evil? Did they only become evil due to your guidance (as they say), or were they always a total psychopath?
>>123468263
Well, at least you were good at some point right? Not everyone can say that.
>>123468097
i actually never learned despite being here for a while
i never knew you couldnt make spaces between characters
>>123468346
Some people are just born evil.
>>123467240
Haha I'm not american.
I don't do your weird turkey worshiping.
>>123468346
I think they were just born in the wrong place at the wrong time, surrounded by the wrong people.
>was doing a genocide run
>regretted it and got dunked on purpose
>reset
>do pacifist run
>beat flowey and spare him
>he thinks i'm gonna go back to killing everyone
how do i prove him wrong /utg/
I hope you've gotten enough sleep, anon!
Did you eat some breakfast? Because you need to make sure you do!
>>123468346
Chara's father killed his family and then himself in a bunker in a besieged capital. Chara, who was left on their father's secret mountain resort, climbed up the mountain in grief and fell down.
>>123468346I personally think they were just a kid who got abused and became fucked up because of that.
>>123468290
well I used to know a kid who was 15 and he could draw 10 times better then me, even at my peak.
I mean if someone is 17 and can draw this, there isn't really much motivation to continue.
