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>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot
>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
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>>122182432
I cant wait to raise some rad crops.
Literally how
who /never hitting rank6/ here
Remember not to invite into parties, heal or support Memelanders and BRbarians, unless you know them. They are all scum.
>>122182672
I believe. Just as much as I believe I'm going to pet a Thaumaturge
>>122182672
me
i'm happy with my sadhu and paladin though :3
>>122182672
>Three days in a row told myself I'll pull an all nighter
>Fall asleep even after drinking 3 cups of coffee last night
Lv.110 Memelander and 89 Thaumaturge here, never gonna fucking make it.
>>122182489
you want cute pets goyim? then throw us all your shekels.
only 300000 icoins for a Grita pet.
>>122182672
me, killed my motivation to grind up my krivis c2
>>122182672
Me. Going to drop as soon as I run out of exp cards; no demon grinding for me
When is the next beta?
I can't... I won't make it... This shit is like drug addiction.
>>122182794
LOL
>>122182780
I'm going to confess here. I really, really like Demon Prison. There's something about a huge clusterfuck of frame drops and snow rolling through everything that makes me enjoy grinding there
>>122182636
I want to wear this cute flower but the game calls me mentally sick for using it.
Why?
>>122182794
This kinda reminds me of one particular event
>130 dungeon
>monk, pally, barbarian, cata(me), Sorc
>They start asking me why hoplite cata when you don't have a pelt circle. Useless class, I hope we don't carry you etc.
>Proceed to kill Harpeia while the Barbarian spams the button for icoin revival and monk doing shit all damage
>>122182874
Demon Prison was the only place I felt useful. Went back to being useless right after it was over.
>>122182090
is this guild vs guild?
>>122182672
/never hitting rank6/ here, created too many characters and Finals are about this time of the month.
ollydbg
When should you use level 6 cards? I'm 112 now and still have quests, but want to make sure.
>>122183040
care to share?
>>122182672
Kinda stuck right now.
Lvl 129 with no cards. Current main and side quests are both in Main Cathedral aka lolololmagicandfreezeupyourass Church
>inb4 you should've saved up bruh
No. I suck at grinding. I wouldnt even get to this lvl if I tried saving shit up
>>122182757
I know that feel way too much
We gotta step the fuck up
>>122183086
just use them until you're 130 then do dungeons. save level 7 cards.
>>122182672
I spent more time fucking around with alts than actually playing. Planning on going full hobo neet to make it to Rank 5.
>>122183152
are you me? though i got a few level 7 cards saved up. and probably some quests i missed like that fucking suspicious table in mage tower.
>>122183040
ollydbg crashes when trying to analyse the code.
So higher level zones are infested with invisible walls that mob AI wont cross. If you aggro a mob and then run to the other side of these walls you can peg any shitty ranged attacks at them until they die and they absolutely will not fight back or move away.
These same fucking walls are also kill switches for the already retarded brains in all necro/sorc summons and every time I cross one I have to resummon the ones I can and abandon the ones I can't (like skeletons)
I never stop finding reasons to be mad at this game.
>>122182672
>Finally get to Chronomancer.
>I-It's a beta.
>Reroll Highlander.
It's a beta, so everything will be fine in the end, I will not feel this disappointed when the game releases, right?
>Move through mage tower F1 and F2
>Killing everything with ease
>Exp is terrible even though I'm 6 levels below the recommended level so I decide to move to F3
>Fucking homing projectiles EVERYWHERE
>Mfw mobs still give shit exp, but I have to chug potions constantly
>>122182090
Meme train build?
Is this worth something?
>>122182636
This visual glitch was a thing in RO as well so they purposely put it back in to cater to the nostalgia-fags. Just like how in Dota1 if you use blink dagger at beyond max range it goes a bit shorter than max distance because of some shitty warcraft3 coding and they had to purposely do that for Dota2 as well.
>>122183291
Go to pic related.
>>122183145
All I got was a movement hack, and a buggy free teleport. I just want to lock the sp bar
>>122183291
fucking flask mage man.
floor 4 is comfiest for me. tons of squishy harmless monsters. floor 5 is full of drakes and their bullshit fire pillar.
>>122183293
Please help a cleric in need
I'm dumb
>>122182762
>grita pet
>proceeds to stand on all of your quest objectives
>constantly targetting her loopy ass by accident
oh boy.
>Farming Shtayim for the brandish recipe
Im never gonna get am i?
HELP I'M RETARDED
>>122183458
You sure are.
>>122183492
I got it. did all 4 corners first then the middle one
>>122182672
Just 32% more Class Exp. I've got another 175 dungeon right today, and there are quests at 177 and 178. I'll make it somewhere between tomorrow or the day after.
Should i do lv 90 dungeon until lv 100?
>>122183291
Not to mention the Infrorocks that are tanky as shit and can make themselves even tankier
F3 is hell, but get used to it because 130+ is like that
>>122183549
which class next?
Fencer? Doppel?
>>122183390
I've already spent hours there. It feels like I can never keep up with the recommended levels even though I tend to spend an hour or two on every map.
>>122183567
WHY THE FUCK NOT
>>122183367
Blink Dagger going shorter than max was intentional, was it not?
>>122183596
Doppel, of course.
We have to go full retard in here.
>>122183823
Full retard would be Fencer, then
Doppel can still use skills with spears
I've read people here saying I should start saving cards at lvl 50, are those the lvl 3 ones? When should I use them?
>>122183916
Fencer can use everything except Cata skills
>>122183352
300k+ on my server, the way you sell them is socket it into a weapon that's at least level 15 was it? It needs potential left over so you can trade it over.
>>122183916
Full retard doesn't mean full impractical. I can use all my skills with my current set right now. I want to be able to continue laying after switching.
Also, does anyone knows what drops the Brandish spear? The information on this HAS to be wrong. There's no way a low level monster like this drops a red recipe 70 levels above it.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/17023/
>>122182672
but i already did
>>122183569
F3 was annoying as shit and I'm a Barb, if I was a pyro I would probably have killed myself.
>>122183978
>Start saving cards at level 50
For what? You're level 50. Go run the level 50 dungeon until 60~65 while doing all of those quests. When you hit Mausaleum you should be around level 80 then go to Gytis and do everything up to Tenets Farm, pop cards and you'll be level 90 in no time then go back to Zachariel Crossroads and run the level 90 dungeon.
This can be done in a day or two depending on how long you play for. You do not need to save any cards before 130.
106/9 here. Can I still make it to rank 5 playing 3 hours a day ?
>>122184124
It's amazing you got that far with such little effort already.
>>122184185
I went 18h in first day lol and 5h here 6 there but its the end of semester in college so I can't keep going like this
Found an interesting bug while trading between my characters using the buy shop:
If you open a buy shop and then log out and delete that character, the character will remain in game with its shop open.
>>122182672
No point anyway. Waste of time even playing this game in its current state. Not like it would be hard to figure out what to do just by reading what people are doing in this thread. Better to not spoil the overall experience of doing everything for the first time. It's more fun this way and people are just spoiling themselves. I'd rather wait and see if they'll actually make changes to the stat system and make classes, especially archers, worth playing. I can just play other games in the mean time. It's not a big deal, really.
anyone want to accompany me with level 50 dungeon? zemyna
>people still falling for "save cards" meme
There is no grind in this game until lvl 160 atleast.
>>122184082
>50 dungeon
You mean the one near the Tenet Chapel?
Are monster gems tradeable? Normal gems don't seem to be, but I see people buying them all the time in shout. Are they just stupid/hopeful?
In related issues, farming them would take stupid long while getting practically no loot or exp wouldn't it? Is it even worth it? Say for something like psychic pressure? I just hit c3 with most my points from c2 saved up and instantly maxxed pressure and gravity pole, so I feel like I've capped out my potential until rank 6.
>>122182971
What're your stats and skills?
>>122184505
People save cards to skip the dead zone of 165+
>>122184683
No, you have to socket them, trade the item and have them extract it
>>122184683
Read the thread.
>>122184683
put them in tradable gear and trade them
>>122184505
I had to grind because dungeons/parties weren't functional for the better part of a fucking week. If I could dungeon at the proper levels I'd be fine. But that's apparently too much to ask for.
>>122184703
Just the usual one cookie cutter build. I did a little bit of my own thing and I just do some tryhard weapon swapping from time to time. Galin Trident works wonders with bosses but if anything, Earth Wave is a mini cartar stroke. Weaker, but a nuke nonetheless.
>>122184034
The worst part is that is not even on the market, if it was dropped by a monster in a casual grinding spot it has to be on the market
>>122184505
Shhh, just let them be. The placebo effect is too strong in this game.
I want an event where blue mobs appear instead
Anybody up for some 175 dungeon runs?
>Dex doesn't improve your DPS
I really need to stop going to the forums.
...so has anyone actually observed the Fire Property: Explosion attribute working? i haven't ever seen it proc...
>>122185197
I had 2 blues and one white there like an hour ago, thanks RNG.
>>122184521
Yes the one near tenet chapel, at level 50 one full clear run should net you two or three levels, you can do it upwards to 5 times a day. If you can get a group to do them all back to back you'll be overleveled for a long time.
Also, mobs outside of dungeons give shit EXP so dont worry about it, grinding is not faster.
>>122184505
That's why we're saving cards senpai :^)
>>122182672
Currently a 152 Fletcher here, contemplating if i should go nuts and use my exp cards. Prison is slowly driving me crazy
>>122185587
Hang in there anon! If you use them now it's gonna be bad!
Pic related!
Fucking SEA servers when?
>>122185263
If anyone's interested, just send me a whisper. I'll be grinding my life away.
>>122185726
>MangaFox
>>122185726
>mangafox
>>122185932
>Rosario+Vampire
Damn, just started grinding the prison.Fuck, 10% in an hour for level 147? Sheeitt.
>>122186110
your party is shit
you should get around 1m/h
>>122186110
>10% in an hour for level 147
What are you, Wizard3/Linker?
>>122186110
It shouldn't be that slow at your level. Is one of your party members 20 levels higher than you?
Are you all shit?
>>122186148
>>122186179
>>122186228
its not a full party, only 3 people including me. Highest is 157 and I dont know how the other 2 kept on going, my equips are all at 0% after a while.I'm a monk something.
>>122186179
I saw one of these earlier, what the fuck are people thinking
>>122185524
Kek, I used all if my 56 cards and jumped to lvl 56.
>Also, mobs outside of dungeons give shit EXP so dont worry about it, grinding is not faster
Really? I remember levelling up easily on the eastern part of tenet chapel f2 from 45 to 48 because there are so many monsters there
>>122186737
wiz3/linker2, share quickcast with everyone
kind of value but really cancer to level
>>122186832
You cannot grind faster than a dungeon would carry you post 50.
So I just got started. What server should I play on? What is "channel" about when you create your character?
>>122185524
>>122186832
You can easily grind to 54 on 2F and hit 65 on five runs
>Market ate 200-300k over night
Jeez I'll just vendor shit nex time, also anyone on gaba selling a glad band recipe?
>>122186832
>45 to 48
Have you literally never done the level 50 dungeon? You go from 50 to 53 in 20 minutes.
>Wizard tower F2
>At level 111 get something like 0.08% per kill
>Gaining 1 level takes almost 2 hours
>Recommended level for the map is 116
Just fucking kill me already
Help me here, anon.
I'm Cleric>Priest c2 and was planning to just go full support, since its a role I enjoy in other games. But I heard people talking about full support builds being pointless in this game.
Whats a good balance in a Cleric/Priest build? SHould I DPS as well? I'm kinda lost here.
>>122187336
>rates are at 3x
>>122187407
Going full support isn't necessarily bad. Sacrament and Blessing carries most Priests a long way. You would be retarded to not build into melee stats while also being "full support".
>>122187407
Cleric
Priest x2
Paladin x3
If you want something more offensive you can choose two levels of Monk at the end over Paladin 2/3.
>>122187407
Bless, Sacrament and monstrance. Build like a DPS, carry lots of pots when on support
>>122187663
>monstrance
How much dex does it even increase?
>>122187725
Like 40.
Dudes, how do you toggle autorun?
>>122187407
>in dungeon
>cleric cast buff
>cast safety zone and deprotect zone
>cast heal twice
>sit down while watching others killing the mobs
>>122187407
Just having blessing and sacrament means you're already a support.
Healing skills have major cd so you really need to DPS during the downtime.
If you want to be a bit more support, consider adding a krivis circle to your build for the Daino skill
>>122187175
Nope, that's why I'm asking, senpai
>>122187336
You've failed the IQ-test this game is.
You have the intelligence level of a dog, maybe a bit lower.
How sneaky, I barely noticed the pillar with the space symbol.
>>122188140
Then help me out, senpai. What's the trick to playing this game and what am I doing wrong? Was it that I fell for the saving exp cards meme?
>>122188221
dang, i was there but had no quests
>>122187336
>get something like 0.08% per kill
>playing a class that can't overkill
A question about party quests. Can you actually get them to change the reward they'll give you by abandoning? So far it's the same every time.
>>122188327
go to Dvasia peak if you havent. You don't grind at mage tower except for floor 1 and 5
>"Though seriously, ToS is Quantity over Quality."
I actually found something smart on the forums.
>>122188387
If you do all the quests in that area, and then interact with the 3 stone things at Tree of Faith and THEN go to that secret area you will fight a boss and get 3 xp cards.
>>122188221
where
>>122188584
Thanks. I will check out Dvasia peak. I was following the leveling guide and it said you should go there after mage tower 3.
>>122188394
Perhaps I will make a barbarian or something next beta.
>>122188903
Around the edges of the tree of faith map are 3 pillars that you take chunks from and at the bottom of that part of the map you make the symbol of space pillar.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/so-whats-the-weakness-of-warrior-classes/116389/34
?
>>122187725
I saw Monstrance dex formula as Dex*1.3+10
So +30% and a little bit. Pretty good for people with dex builds I guess.
>>122189285
>Swordman has to face-tank everything without natural healing/recovery, and their SP pool is very small, plus long cooldown skills.
lol
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/my-feedback-on-linear-progression-and-other-stuff/96341/142 muh RO
>>122188327
You should have this http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/ as your alt-tab browser page instead of /tosg/. You do quests, and check this map every 3 levels or so. You don't go to higher level maps until you do the lower level. You click on each and every object you can interact with, you explore all the maps to 90-100% searching for NPCs. 1 NPC can have 1.5-2 levels worth of exp in cards, and it won't take much time. You bind an interation with objects to a specific button of your choice because some objects are not clickable, you check objects like books and glass lamps (mage tower), not only human NPCs.
Once in a while you'll seem like you run out of quests - then you just go to maps whcih are higher levels You should remember maps names which you were doing which were higher level than you, because you can't take all the quests unless you match the recommended level. So once you've reached the level of the map - you recheck it again for quests. They won't be there always, but sometimes they will.
You only grind if you find a really good spot exp/silver-wise and if you feel like grinding. The best spot for me was the bushspiders spot at lvl 100+. They die instantly, provide good exp, they always gather in big groups and drop a shitload of recipes. You will never have to grind against your own will.
>>122189362
>plus long cooldown skills.
>>122189327
That is actually a fuckton
Btw what exactly do you do in Legwyn? I ran around like a retard trying to talk to random poles and shit. I can't even take the lift to the upper level.
This is RO alchemist afk grinding all over again.
>>122183004
>>122182090
>raid
>gvg
hownew.ru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyYbsGU0wLA
>>122188584
But I like F4 with all the pierce weak things
>>122189689
Do the skellies and shoggoth stay up forever? What.
>>122189506
There is an event that gives between 150k and 300k silver
I'm trying to do the hidden quest that involves talking to all the class masters but the Oracle Master won't talk to me and I couldn't find the Wugushi or the Scout masters which are meant to be on Gateway of the Great King. Halp anyone?
>>122190004
oraclel wont talk to me either
the two masters though are just west and north of the statue though, up the little stairs.
Demon prison floor 2 crash on Zemyna when harpy was allegedly out.
Oh well.
Anyone got timers on any of the other Zemyna bosses?
>>122190161
Oooh thanks I just talked to them both and Thaumaturge again and she gave me a quest I guess the Oracle Master just reads your mind but it still counts.
>>122189481
I always explore the maps and try to interact with everything suspicious looking. Despite that I'm still constantly behind. More often than not there is a 3 level difference between maps, just like the link you provided showed. Even with exploring every new map and grinding a bit on every map that is not nearly enough to get 3 levels. I would probably have to stay 5 or 6 hours on every map to get that many levels. I don't really feel like I'm ever low on silver though. I get plenty of that from all the recipes like you said. Thanks for the map though, perhaps I can find some use for it that I don't get from the in-game world map.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/guide-hoplite-by-cathexis/105118
So do you get anything special for being in the top 10% ?
>>122189285
>We have a weakness guys, I swear!
>We have to sit sometimes :3
Damn son, so weak
>Squire can only set up Base Camp every 6 hours.
Even if at level 15 the camp skill last 6 hours, isn't this a bit too much? Teleporting back and forth in this game is cheap and easy, I fail to see how this skill is worth to invest so many precious points.
Joypad controlls fix when, half of the shit doesn't work. Tried the mount/dismount and fukken no luck, also when mounted on summon, the skills are bound to asdf ffs.
>>122190860
If you find a good farming spot that doesn't have a warp statue, also the camp allows people to store their stuff so it's decent just for that.
>>122182672
Me because this game is a pile of shit
did the server died
>play all day yesterday
> have vivid dream of being kiss raped by catgirls and sorceresses with maid heqdbands
Is this game unhealthy?
How retarded does wiz>cryo>linker>thaum>sorc>alchemist sound?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/z6cq3yuu9b/
Thought pattern:
-Cryo instead of pyro provides a 4 second freeze and ice wall(questionable freeze) instead of the meager damage provided by one level of pyro
-Linker would provide utility and theoretical damage
-Thaum would give utility and would combine with linker to double the exp value of packs you kill (and potential champions but not really because they never spawn)
-Sorc would be a (seemingly) good source of damage based on what I've seen of temple shooters and such wrecking things, a onepointwonder-type class
-Alchemist for awakening shit, making potions, baking gems and making bank
The other option is cryo (or pyro)/triple linker/alchemist
What do I do with necklace of fury, necklace of gluttony, necklace of sloth, etc; I'm guessing there's a recipe to combine them but where's the recipe from? Database doesn't seem to say.
>>122189817
The Necromancer and Paladin are better "summoners" than the Bokor.
It's beyond fucking stupid.
>>122189285
>Swordman has to face-tank everything
>I haven't used a single pot except in boss fight
wew, that face-tank sounds awful
What the fuck man, the market requires sacrifice now? I think I lost 3-4 of my listed items, if they are bought then I lost the money too.
>>122192106
my 20 pages of items vanished
>>122191896
Do it faggot.
This kind of build is beautiful in its own way, no its not going to work well, but any motherfucker that gets far with a build like that deserves some praise.
I want to do this with swordman and collect as many outfits possible.
>>122192106
The jew gods are pleased with your offering.
I got 2 memedaggers now
On a scale of 1 to 10, how mad are you?
Praise the red orbs
>>122192106
They are there, but they are invisible.
But the chances of this shit market being fixed in this beta are close to none at all so it doesn't matter, you are never going to see neither your items back or the silver they are worth.
>>122192387
0 cause i use 2hands
>>122192327but why would it be bad you fucker you are so unhelpful god damn it
>>122192387
I got an extra earlier, too. Gonna sell it when I log back on then return to prison
How much are Arde Daggers now
>>122192387
I dropped 2 yesterday on 11 runs total so far, not jelly in the slightest desu senpai. Even gave one to my friend.
>>122191896
Pyro2/Thauma/Sorc here.
Pyro2 was so easy to play, Thuma just increased my damage and partys making it even more easier.
As i hit Sorc i nearly stopped using my Pyro on trash mobs, that's how good templeshooter is. if i knew this earlier i would pick one circle in Linker instead of Thauma.
Guys, I'm starting to regret rolling a linker.
You're pretty much useless outside of joint penalty and everything gets erased easily enough without it anyway.
>>122192712
Hmm.. you wouldn't replace a pyro level, even though you nearly stopped using the pyro stuff?
Do you feel thaum doesn't help very much? I haven't really seen too much on it, but the attributes seem to provide a lot of damage even if you only get one point in the circle
>>122192387
>13 runs so far
>still no dagger
>>122191896
I think it kinda lacks focus but feel free to try, to be honest you'd probably be fine with sorc for pve if it stays as good as what i saw in demon prison 2 and you're willing to drink sp pots non stop.
>>122192391
RED ORBS!
>>122192853
Saying you're useless outside of joint penalty.. that's.. what?
NO SHIT THAT'S WHAT LINKERS DO
I love my linker so far, been dungeoning and people are fellating me pretty hard.
>>122192853
>linker
>regret
u wot?
>>122192915
Pyro2 is great, but i would't go for Pyro3.
Fireball lv10 is just great on bosses and helps alot when lvling on map with flying mobs, Flame Ground is love, even at lv5, easy grind at low lvls.
I still use Pyro, but mostly on bosses, or in dungeons if there is need for it. Fire Phillar is great for hitlocking group of mobs.
Thauma is great, but doesn't affect your summons. If you want to provide support for party with extra damage buff then it's good, but linker would do the same while actually affecting your summons damage.
>>122189449
>>122189449
>this game is bad because it's not RO
>why isnt it RO?
>im disappoint with the spiritual sucessor
>>122187336
>1 level takes almost 2 hours
Wow it's fucking nothing
>>122193192
Linker is completely useless outside of dungeons because BRbarians can just one hit stuff without link anyway.
>>122193096
And it's completely unnecessary for the most part.
>>122183454
If you do let me know how long it took so I can get a rough idea, I think I will farm one on release.
we really meme now
why doesn't my weapon glow when it gets + enough
please fix imc
IMC should just remove archer and give clerics the bows
>>122193296
I wish I was as hardcore you anon, you're sooooo cool.
did the dungeon till 105 now Im 12 levels behind on mage 2F
Great game IMC :^)
>>122193515
Thanks
Is it just me or Fletcher has an awful design?
The whole theme of the class is crafting arrows that only you can use... as components for specific skills. You could literally take out the whole arrow crafting thing and the class would play exactly the same way. So much lost potential.
>>122193368
Where is it not necessary?
The addition of me in dungeon groups turned them from haphazard retard-pulls to surgical pack elimination in seconds
I can see the cooldown being a bit of a limiter in the wilderness, but link provides massive effective damage, especially for only one point investment.
In certain areas I can see linker^3 being good for grinding, obviously would be less effective with less targets than optimal linking would allow
>>122193504
People only like linkers now because you're supposed to like them.
When the min-maxing goes full on linkers will never find parties outside of specific dungeons ever.
>>122193601
redditnigger detected.
>>122193546
>Behind
Fucking quest kiddies, you aren't behind you just have no quests left. Kill some monsters. They should just remove all quests to be honest
>>122193596
Because everything gets erased easily enough without the help of linkers anyway.
Another DPS to fill up the slot would have the same effect of increasing the damage output if not better.
>>122193428
I tried to find an alchemist to awaken my Arde Dagger earlier, but the only one around respecced for potion focus. The Magic Attack just seems neat to have
>>122193695
lmao. This faggot has no clue. Probably buttmad because he went down the shitter tree.
>>122193476
>remove archers and give ranged weapons to swordies
>remove wizards and give spells to clerics
and nothing of value was lost
How many days do we have left till this shit ends?
I'm making my next mission to spot a blue mob. I'm fucking 130 and still havent seen these things. Do they spawn in low lvl areas too
>>122193785
I saw one in 344 hours of play.
>>122193695
If you are referring specifically to a party situation NOT in a dungeon in a grinding area with insufficient monsters to go around I can agree with you, but if you're saying dungeon monsters get erased then I must assume you are retarded, linking 5 monsters together is equivalent to dealing 80% of their health in damage instantly, plus the utility of vortexing and immobilizing them.
In the field though I can see how it would be less useful in a situation where you instantly kill the monsters and there aren't that many.
Reanbell what are you gonna do with all the money you giant jew?
also gem roasting carries over when you upgrade the gem, so that's why price is the same
How much should item awakening cost?
>>122193916
1 mil at least
not like they're going to find someone else
>>122193941
Okay, now how about as a customer?
>>122193771
I will always find weird how the wizards, the class that specializes in using fucking magic is bound to sp and cooldowns, in my opinion they should use one or the other
>>122193852
1 rank of linker will never be obsolete.
It will always link 5 mobs and always link members in pvp and it will always bind.
>>122193941
1 mil on top of losing 3 potential? ahahahah fuck off faggot
>>122194070
>he thinks spending 20 working on your item is free
>>122194070
you need to trade the item to the alchemist?
>free armor trimmy
>>122191931
Its for a collection. +1 int for full set.
>>122194187
>thinks 20 mins afking while the person clears the dungeon is worth 1mil
lol, hope you like making no money on release unless you're autistic and get to rank 6 stupidly fast, cause everyone is making alchemists.
>>122192391
How do red orbs work as far as this is concerned? Do they just hit mobs around them and AoE on to them? I have a couple.
>>122193601
I'm thinking of going potentially triple linker support on release. In the current state of the game up to what I've seen so far what you're saying doesn't make much sense, can you explain your reasoning?
>>122194359
Red orbs will summon the enemy the orb is named after, and it'll attack any player it can. Blue orbs will attack enemies for you. You can go to a high population grinding zone, pop a red orb and kill every afk auto attacker
>>122193578
same as quarrel shooter, a skill just to gather stones and archer tree does not have the class that can open stalls until rank 7/8.
>>122194359
Normal mobs, if they have aoe they use it. Otherwise just lure them on top of the bots.
>>122194330
>thinks 20 mins afking while the person clears the dungeon is worth 1mil
>Taking the customer in the dungeon
>Not doing it with your friends/employees instead
>>122193578
Yeah totally agree, the other three starting classes all have an opportunity to become a jew class but archer doesn't.
Archers only need +5 to remove the damage penalties. How does this affect them?
I don't understand, how can people say "this game's grind isn't fun"? I mean, how can grind even be fun/enjoyable?
It might be biased from me, since I hate grinding and even when I played RO I'd rush through, leeching my INT bard/minstrel with my alt hunter until I had level to spam bragi so my friends could spam SG to clear guild dungeons, but It was still BORING.
Killing Stings for hours with DS, spamming nothing but bragi to kill monsters inside aldebaran's guild dungeon, it was a fucking bore fest.
I understand the rewarding part, but I can't wrap my mind around the FUN/ENJOYABLE part
Killing harder mosters wasn't even hard, nor challenging, it was just braindead spell spam
>>122194937
+5 only cuts it in half, you have to +10 to remove it
>>122194968
Read the post again.
Please help, anon.
I finally got some good silver to spend on good stuff at the maket. But I'm in doubt now, for a DPS is the investment in plate really worth it? Leather seems to be more useful in many cases.
For Sapper and Barbarian, what would you recommend?
>>122194956
>bunching things up and then seeing a massive explosion of overkill isnt fun
>>122194956
Grinding is boring, doing dumb repetitive quests that make you flinch because a piece of grass cut your hand while a 20 foot monster chops your face and you are fucking fine with it is boring why even play MMO's.
>>122194652
nobody will just stand by for that you idiot, it's like you think they want to get scammed.
>>122194956
I don't understand what's so great about it either. On iRO Valkyrie I met some guy who would spend tons of cash on EXP manuals, just to level a dozen character he had made, but never did anything else with them. He said he enjoyed grinding and PvE the most.
There should be a medical condition to define those people.
>>122195073
Plate is only better than leather if you are a monk, otherwise go leather.
comparing ice-god to a mudslime>
>>122195158
it's called autism
it's the only reason you would play these games
if you don't enjoy it there's no reason to play it, so why bother complaining
should be a medical condition to define people who continue to willingly do things even though they don't want to
>>122195072
Oh, you mean "What if archers only needed +5?".
Im actually fine with needing +10, only because since most people will only +5 while leveling, the class will ultimately be balanced around +5ing, meaning if you put the extra effort in to +7 or more, you will be ahead of the game.
>>122194956
It's the minigame while you talk with people and discuss about topics.
Anyone who actually plays MMOs for the gameplay outside of a few certain games are fucking batshit insane.
Pyro 3 or Link/Pyro 2 for Sorc build?
>>122195073
>DPS
All are irrelevant, mix and match parts of all types.
>>122195319
you know you only need +5 to remove the penalty now right?
actually why does this penalty even exist, weren't they supposed to buff archers, not nerf them?
>>122195325
pyro3 isnt that great. pyro2 is optimal, so id go wiz-pyro-linker-pyro-sorc2
>>122194956
As for me, I don't think of the grind but more of a treasure hunt. I look on the loot table of monsters and check if there's a rare item. I really don't care of the % and all and I just hunt for it and before I get the item that I'm looking for, I gain 3 - 4 levels.
>>122195319
+10 is rather impractical though. Considering fail rates and the money investment.
Not to mention that other classes don't need remotely close to the same level of investment to be ahead of the curve.
>>122195427
Are you sure you only need +5 now?
It exists because it was what archers got in compensation for removing the damage type modifiers. They used to always do pierce damage, now they do damage that can not be mitigated by armor type (or increased, but its better to remove penalties than to pidgeonhole archers into only being any good vs leather armor)
>>122195527
why didn't they just give them the hoplite treatment and give them a skill that makes enemies more vulnerable to pierce, now they just suck against everything instead of being okay against pierce weak enemies and shit against everything else.
>>122195494
other classes cant be as far ahead of the curve because they cant do as much to distinguish them from the other people of that class.
The difference between a shitty archer and a really well built and geared archer is bigger than a barbarian or something. This is good in the long run because it will inevitably need to be balanced around the lowest common denominator since people are casual scum. This means if we simply wait out for archer buffs, they could end up potentially the strongest class.
>the meta is apparently auto attacking with massive stacks of on hit damage effects
>people say chronomancers are bad even though they boost attack speed
wat
>>122195727
it doesn't work
How retarded does archerc2/3-sapperc2/3- reiter sound? I really wanted to try that class out
>>122195727
Level archer to c2 and see how much atack speed buff actually affect atack speed.
>>122195762
Its quite noticable though. Id say it gives you 4 arrows in the time you would normally shoot 3
>>122195079
Gotta admit, that is kinda fun
>tfw your class cant overkill
>>122195276
I played RO solely because of WoE.
They were the best thing ever. Almost everything else was boring.
>>122195323
>while you talk with people and discuss about topics
You can do that with about everything though, I even remember to this day my guild mates in the middle of a castle defense discussing what was better: trap or dfc futa doujin.
But it really helped with the grind bore
In the Forest of Prayer, what does the letter in the bucket or the Decoy Altar or the Stepping Stone do? Am I missing something? I'm trying to complete everything on the map.
>>122195146
I'd rather have someone I know using their actual gear rather than some random missing one of their items. It hardly matters whether they come or not once the items traded over they just have to trust the Alchemist.
You can spend 1mil and have a reputable Alch with a good record or you can go for a cheap one and get scammed, be my guest goyim.
>>122195626
Archer might be the strongest at one point but I don't think it'll ever reach the level of domination that swordsmen have now.
apex lmao
>>122195885
>literally 1mil for something that costs nothing but time
no thanks, i'll level my own alch, or use one of my guilds many alchs
>>122195864
Dunno, i tried levelling it to 10 but i didnt notice the diff at all.
