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Absolutely No Gay Shit or Else Edition

previous thread: >>121504994

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn
http://fewes.se/pd2g/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
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1st for M16 is my raifu
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post em, r8 em
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Tips for soloing loud DW heists?
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>>121794951

donacdum
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HEY

YOU

GET ON YOUR FEET
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6th for someone host a lobby. I'm tired but I wanna play.
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>>121795109
YEAH
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8th for Delorean in a new job when ?
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oh god it's one of these threads
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>>121794951
DW loud heists are meant to be played in a crew, not doing them alone. Don't act dumb
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how do i get good at this game?
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>>121794926
I may have a problem
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>>121796260
Techforcer
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>>121796395
but i dont have infil or socio and i dont have flamer
and then i dont have inspire and everyone would get mad at me
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>>121796446
Use muscle instead, and if they go down they are the ones that need to get good.
Wallhacking cloakers is the only reason you should go down.
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>>121796571
do cloakers really wallhack? i havent seen it
but once in slaughterhouse in the room after the c4 door before it opens up into the big room someone got cloakered and when i killed the cloaker he went through the wall into the big room
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>>121796446
>but i dont have infil or socio and i dont have flamer
You got Muscle at least? it's really fucking hard to go wrong with Muscle. Infiltrator and Sociopath are more for when you know exactly what you're doing.

>and then i dont have inspire and everyone would get mad at me
Inspire ain't vital, just really, really fucking nice to have. If people are going to bitch about you not having it then tell 'em to stop getting downed so often that Inspire becomes vital or to invest in some speed increasing skills.
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>>121796260
equip maxed muscle
you cant die in ovk and below because health regen is OP
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>>121796696
It doesn't happen too often. the cause is usually host/someone with an incredibly bad internet connection
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>>121794951
deagle
grinder
drill skills
kite
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>>121796571
>>121796739
>>121796808
pd2skills.com/#/v3/mJGDa:erOpLIEFbDa:tsOIJEFGBcDa:ghECda:ibca:::
i have no clue what the fuck to do in tech tree but thats my attempt
idk if i need bp ace or cop intim, but i decided the fugi ms wasnt worth either of those
i just have basic saw because idk how saw skills work in terms of reqs for heists
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>>121797086
Looks good, got all the necessary skills to make the game easy.

Don't bother putting too many points into sawing.
Basic is fine to get you through everything in every map as long as you keep one of those ammo bags for yourself.
Unless you have a hard-on for a specific primary and you want your saw in your secondary slot.
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>>121796260
muscle sucks compared to grinder
go grinder
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>>121795978
You're late to the party. Today the game is being 'balanced' to be beatable on DW in an average free-weekend pub.
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>>121796696
Nah, not really.The worst I usually see is the cloaker being a few feet away from the person that's down, and that's only occasionally
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>>121797469
ok thanks
>>121797501
no grinder
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more lewd
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>>121797826
what kind
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>>121797826
I only have thighs not gaylewds
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>no Bile/Ilija lewds
What the fuck?
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>>121797884
post them
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Requesting lewds of ovk fucking the community in the ass with a spiked bat labeled crimefest.
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>>121798719

little do you know noep will probably do it
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when going techforcer what do i get first?
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>>121799431
ICTV. Tech is utter trash if you don't get the BP+ICTV combo.
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>>121799431
Grinder, suit and deagle.
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>>121799431
At the very start? Invest more into Tech. While at the lower tiers Enforcer has more immediately useful skills, boosting Tech will make it quicker to get to Bulletproof and Shaped Charges.
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So Angry Bear +3 concealment really broke the game..As in it allows the Minigun and bunch of other low conceal weapons to get Low Blow aced full bonus....
I wonder if snipers would be effective or still a shit weapon to use at all...
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>>121800814
Minigun has always been able to get crits, +3 concealment doesn't change much with eighteen billion RPM.
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>>121800886
i wonder if LMG's can use LB aced with Angry Bear as a additional concealment buffer..
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>>121797884
itsfuckingnothing.png
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>>121800962
I think RPK can.
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GODDAMNIT NO GAY SHIT
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>>121799662
>>121800668
conflicting advice
>>121799726
no grinder
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>>121801363
The only Tech thing worth shit in combat is BP. C4 is nice but the saw does largely the same job.
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>>121801323
I messed up. It should'a been gay posts. That should get it on.
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>>121801486
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>>121800962
RPK is the only one semi-interessant with its 9 concealment and again it can't reach under 25 concealment and full low blow aced bonus unlike the Vulcan with its 11 concealment.
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>>121801485
But you're naturally going to pump some points into bombs anyway as you go up the Tech tree, and unless you want to use up 12 points to use Saw as a secondary, it's ultimately going to be taking up your primary slot which in combat is just a hassle.
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>>121801596
...these internet descriptions are iffy at best.
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>>121801710
That is the case one you have both of the trees filled. The anon asked which he should fill first.
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>>121801485
shaped charges have definitely their use like UK job or the transport heists, don't underestimate them at rushing things.
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>>121801810
And ICTV and BP are both at the top. To get Bulletproof you're gonna likely invest some points into C4, whereas Saw is a higher-tier investment.

I'm not actually sure why we're arguing over this. The best set up is Shaped Charges and Saw in your build anyway, to cover all options.
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>>121801990
C4 are kinda niche, but they have use in certain heists. Door-opening like on HoxOut d2, if pubshitters got all the cards for example.
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>>121797884
post em
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>>121802005
Saw is in the same tier as Shaped Charges and doesn't need to be aced, I don't know what you're talking about.
The anon asked which tree he should fill first. Obviously he's going full Techforcer once he has the levels but before that it's a choice between ICTV, saw, ammo bags plus stuff like Stun Resistance and drill skills, C4 and BP. ICTV is strictly better than plain BP, saw is about as useful as C4 and every other Techforcer already brings drill skills.
If and when it's a choice between the two, Enforcer is better.
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T R I P D A Y 2
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>>121805182
A E S T H E T I C
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>>121805182
>Jacket in any sort of armor
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>>121805554
>Jacket in general
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>>121805182
>Jacket,
>ICTV,
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I wish Poco had better looking meters. I miss the decapitation thing of Hoxhud too, and also the auto-hold on interaction.
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>>121807085
>not using goonmod with poco hud
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>>121805706
>not using best heister
baka
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>>121796338
do you like hurting other people?
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>>121807272

Thanks, never tried it before. Just what I wanted.
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>>121795978
git gud
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>>121807352
>h-h-he's best because I will keep saying that every thread and posting same sets of images!
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>>121794951
Same as soloing Overkill heists but being far more cautious and slow. If you rush something and a Cloaker nabs you the bots likely won't be able to recover.
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>>121809932
It's usually best to solo without bots. Cloaker downs are bullshit.
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>>121807352

I like to think he's not the "real" Jacket (AKA Richard).

He's just some crazy guy who started following around the gang one day, and he didn't say much but was really good at killing things so they let him come along.
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>>121810187
He couldn't be the real one, he died.
I like to think he's another fan, like the 4 in the game.
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>>121809932
>>121810024
Honestly, I'd say everyone needs to experience the joy of being kicked by a cloaker and spend the next 30 seconds watching the AI go full retard, have one of the bots get kicked and ultimately go into custody because of how stupid bots are.
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>>121810417
>the joy
Not the emotion I usually feel.
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game died when goldfarb left desu senpai
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>>121810523

How about this instead?

G-get it??
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>>121806634
>No forearm guards

That's CTV.

Super Shitter.
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HAPPENING
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>>121812508
its literally nothing, who the fuck still uses windows xp
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what the fuck Overkill
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Even windows doesn't support XP anymore overkill. What fuck.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
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>>121812508
>>121812593
>>121812595
>>121812690
What happened?
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>>121813778
Open beta! for fucking Windows XP fixes
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>>121813778
http://steamcommunity.com/games/218620/announcements/detail/85927409056443998
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>>121813818
>>121813881
That's it?
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>Crimefest 2016
>Day 1 is removing Payday 2 and all of its DLC from our libraries.
>So that we can rebuy it and experience the WINDOWS 95 PAYDAY 2 BETA
Lookin forward to it
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>DOS port exclusive masks.
Thanks Almir.
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Why can't I play Payday 2 on my calculator? Come on Overkill. Support us TI-84 gamers.
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>>121814569
>8bit version of the default heister masks
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>almost 2016
>PD2 is still unplayable on radars
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>Go outside.
>Pick up a rock.
>Payday 2 isn't installed on it.
Dead game.
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Thanks for the closed Beta Overkil!
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>>121816123
lookin great!
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>>121796338
not enough rreerr
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https://twitter.com/OVERKILL_TM/status/663724174045749248

So who want to keep the worst heist of the game ?
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How do I use Hoxhud and lobby player info at the same time?
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Is overkill/starbreeze actually retarted?
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Needs more Sokol lewds
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>>121816968
By deepthroating dicks you queermo.
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>>121816817
>all those salty consoleplebs
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>>121816968
kill self
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>>121816968
>using hoxhud
>ever
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>>121816817
Nah, it's a fun and kinda different thing. Decent payout too, with the meth. You don't have to play it if you don't want to, Anon.
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>>121817131
>>121817090
>>121816968
why the hate for hoxhud?
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>>121818997
It's a bloated, unstable mess which doesn't play nice with BLT. The creator is also a massive dick.
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>>121815207
>Go outside,
>Pick up a leaf,
>Payday 2 isn't optimized on it.

Dead game, dead community, happy developers.
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>>121819160
>The creator is also a massive dick.
Any noteworthy instances of him being a massive dick?
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It's nice that they fix them but did we really need a beta for this ?
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Honestly I kick all players who aren't using hoxhud.
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Huh
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>>121819818
He pretty much tells his mod users to not complain on his mod page when it breaks so they flood the normal steam forum
He demanded to get the patches early/demanded that Ovk waits with the release until he fixes his mod
He still parades the Overkill approved thing around despite it being out of date for a very long time
He adds features that completely fucked shit up
Anti-Cheat deletes mission bags when it's a new heist
the old restart feature crashed everyone's game
The Hoxhud initialized mp3 makes the mod even more unstable
fucking closed source
I mean
literally encrypts his lua mods
If you get every mod of HH in a standalone version it's way more stable
the encryption also makes the game unstable
half of the code is stolen anyways
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>>121821412
Thank you Bo
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>>121821412
That explains why LGL does every DLC nowadays
>yfw Raid is PD3
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>>121821412
>still being salty about the MT update.
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>>121822582
Fuck off, almir.
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>>121822875
>not simply using the skin unlocker and appreciating the rest of the new content.
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>>121822582
Kill
>>121823213
Yourself
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http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mQSNOLhIJgBDa:efDa:gMhEGCDa:fDa:ibcdea::w77:s18-14-36-35-11-39-29: post build and r8
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>>121825282
>acing SK just for the Deagle,

If it was the AA12 or the Valkyria, it would be understandable but come on.

6-7/10 for a grinder build.
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>>121810637
XXV-100 shitter with 500 hours is best meme though.
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Hostage taker on a grinder, yes or no? Aced or basic?
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>>121831278
Absolutely not.
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>>121831359
Okay. I though it'd be pretty good to have 15hp/4s on top of the grinder healing. Points better spent on something else I understand.
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>>121825282
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhijefgcDa:erolIJEFgBCDa:tgDa:gKhiEfgbCDa:fKHEFbDa:ibcdea:pM8a8i8::w77:s18:a7

ICTV backed up with Swan Song, Bullet Storm, and Nine Lives for the extra down. You should be able to hold any front long enough for the other heisters to come to your aid.
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>>121831278
I'd get it if you already climbed up the tree to get inspire.
No idea why >>121831359
said not to get it with grinder, considering it helps keep you HP topped up in DW and gives you a regen while not in combat, which helps.
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daily reminder that hoxhud is shit and you should kill yourself if you use it
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>>121833954
your name makes no sense
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>>121833468
Oh.. Should I bother rearranging skill points in my build to have it aced or is basic enough? I'll give it a shot and see for myself if it's any useful.
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>>121833954
This
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>>121834308
What kind of build are you rolling? I'll see if I can help you sort some skills out.
I personally have it aced in mine.
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>>121825282
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSnLhJFGBcda:eIFDa:tba:gkmhJEgCDa:fKHeGBCa:ibcdea:pM8::w34-22-31-30-34-33:s35-24-32-36-37-12-31:a1

SK M308 build that every shitter is using these days, except this one is DLC-less.
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>>121833954
>>121834479
These
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>>121834508
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mrSnoLHijEGBDa:eDa:ghEfCda:fqroKIeFGbCda:ibcdea:pN8::w13-22-8-2-18-34:s7-19-1
2-10-14-25:a1

I'm using the skin bonus of the bernetti skin to get under 5 concealment.

no bully
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>>121835198
It's a pretty solid build even without hostage taker aced.
Here's my reworked version for you
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mQrSnolhiJEFGcDa:eDa:ghECa:froKIeFGbCda:ibcdea:pN8::w13-22-8-2-18-34:s7-1-19-10-14-25:a1
The biggest difference is that combat doctor isn't aced and you lost bullseye.
You should be able to manage with four charges even if no one else brings medic bags, and hostage taker will more than compensate for the lost defense from bullseye
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I've never used a build with Shockproof, is it worth the four points?
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>>121836648
It's pretty good if you can spare the 4 points. Just keep in mind its not like, Oh hes tazing me I instantly knock him off me, it just means it will happen at some point.
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>>121807085
>needing the game to hold the buttons for you since you're such an autistic pleb you let go too soon
>needing cheat huds to tell when ecms, assault waves etc run out because you're to casual to learn the fucking game
shitlords like you who are too fucking retarded to learn basic mechanics is the reason q3 died out.
#kickhoxhudcheaters
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>>121836648
Usually not. It just causes the taser effect to self-terminate after a while, that usually happens on its own anyway.
It's great for soloing and still a good filler skill if you have extra points.
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>>121836648
If you have spare points, shockproof is decent insurance against tasers.

It'll apply a melee hit with guaranteed knockdown after a random interval, and it'll ensure you won't get fully incapacitated.
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>>121837005
Tasers incap you once in a blue moon, the vast majority of times you're killed by other cops because you can't take cover.
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>>121837147
shockproof helps when you're soloing, or using weapons like the mosc/joce

Other than that, you shouldn't really need it
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>>121837340
The majority of my loud builds use the Mosconi or Joceline and I think I can spare the four points, I'll go for it.
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>>121836183
thank you!
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>>121837147
Like I said, it's just insurance.

It won't happen often, but when it does, you'll be glad you had it.
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>>121837478
Glad I could help!
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>>121833293
Can you activate bullet storm right before wading into a swarm of mobs with swan song and just tact nuke the entire wave? Pick yourself up with pistol messiah haha?
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>>121840471
A bulletstorm tier effect already happens with Swan Song aced.
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>>121840640
well I mean where you don't consume your ammo, so when you get picked up you aren't cleaned out of ammo
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can you still get the pig in the slaughterhouse job and get the drill and safe
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>>121840767
That already happens with swan song aced.
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>>121840767
Read swan song aced before posting.
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>>121841124
>>121841189

it lets you fire without reloading, bulletstorm doesn't drain your ammo at all. I could have sworn swan song does drain ammo even though it doesn't make you reload
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>>121842612
As someone who uses it on ovk, it does not.
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>>121842612
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>>121841010
if the event is still going
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>>121797980
I drew the Sokol lewds in the previous thread. i feel the same way about Bile n Ilija because they're cute af. You want anything specific with them?? i'll do whatever, mang.
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Who is the best character and why is it Bile?
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>>121844025
oh gosh oh gosh I love you
Something sweet pls
maybe with handholding

or Ilija bottoming desu
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>>121844025
Sokol and Illija tag teaming /pdg/-tan
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>>121844691
Bile a cute!
A CUTE
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Been using the GL40 since it destroys just about everything with a good secondary, but apparently Flamethrower is the new thing from what I see.

What's the reason to use it over the GL40? Is it worth it to give up the shield sniping and the mass stun effect?
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>>121845162
flamethrower is a lot better for dealing with normal units, but the gl40 is better for dealing with winters.
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What are the best mods to put on a saw?
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>>121847089
None of the damage-increasing ones. They don't do shit.
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Post your dopest mask
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>>121847089
Fast motor, durable blades, that's meta.
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That's weird, goonmod weapon customizer isn't working. I have it installed and everything, and I know it because my old skins from long ago are still showing. But I can't seem to find the button to do it anymore. Where is it?
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>>121849054
goonmod is disabled during halloweenheists for some reason
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>>121849251
forceload retard
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>>121849054
Right-click your currently equipped weapon on the inventory screen.
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>>121794672
>People are still playing this game
Did they release the lube DLC for $4.99?
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>>121850112
Not yet, maybe for christmas daddy Almir will give us the option to prepurchase a lube pack.
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>>121850112
It's a shit game but I play it anyway because I know it too well and it's dumb enough I don't have to put a lot of thought into it. Especially since I exclusively play a main Enforcer with maxed Muscle, I'm fucking invincible and I love it.

What the fuck am I supposed to do aside moving bags and killing specials?
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>>121845162
If you're using Grinder, it heals you absurdly fast
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>>121844764
;) you got it. desu don't expect anything soon, only because I'm gonna be taking a lil pd/drawing break to start playing fo4 tomorrow. I will deliver tho.

>>121844807
ok i won't do that lmao.
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>>121851051
>ok i won't do that lmao.
Rude as fuck desu senpai baka
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>>121851107
im sorry, i'm a huge faggot and pdg-tan does not interest me. (also i wasnt aware of the new filters)
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>>121851503
Not all of us in this thread are gay anon. Some of us are only half gay.
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>>121845305
>>121845162
Flamethrower suppresses cops as well with the burning animation, albeit at a much shorter range. But it still mows down regular cops absurdly quickly, the only problem is if a tazer tags you out of the range of the flames. The flamethrower also outright stops cloakers from charging you if you hold the jet on them.

As for winters, pack a Rocket Launcher. I'm not sure if you can get low enough concealment for LBSB, even if you ace it.
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Should I buy Sokol's pack?

Pros: Grinder
Cons:Thanks for your money goy!

how has it changed since the perk deck rebalances?
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>>121852387
I'm assuming meta is to use rare, welldone doesn't seem worth it.
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>>121852683
It got buffedTM in the rebalance, people say it got nerfed because they can't just stand still in the middle of the map and regen anymore. It heals slower now but more healing over time. It's still top tier.
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>>121852815
sounds good. what weapons must i use with it?
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>>121852683
It got nerfed but it's still fucking obscenely good. Also Sokol is best heister

>>121852695
I know there's another Flamethrower-bro who posts here occasionally, I think he said Rare for anything below DW, but Well done for DW.
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>>121851645
I know, but im still not gonna do it. I hope a different drawfag is nice enough to fulfill your half-gay fantasies one day though because my dick wont let me do it.
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>>121852946
Anything, it's best with a SBLB build if you aren't using rogue so any weapons for that build would work for it. Apparently flamethrower is good for it.
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>>121853346
faggot
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>>121852695
It's the opposite, in fact.

The flamethrower survives off of ammo pickups, so nerfing the damage for extra ammo isn't worth it, since it doesn't affect the pickup-rate at all.

You're better off prioritizing damage, and using the stat-boosting skin will make it even better.
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>>121853425
>SBLB
fuck
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>>121853575
Do the skins from the script mark me as cheater?
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>>121840471
No.

>You're being overwhelmed
>You immediately toss down a bag for 15 seconds of infinite ammo
>You spray the cops in an attempt to gain control
>Cops deplete your health
>You go into swan song and continue firing for 9 seconds
At that point, you've hopefully taken care of the problem. If you haven't then you can be inspired, lose all your health again, and trigger swan song for another 9 seconds of spraying. It's very gimmicky but it'll ensure you can hold.
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>>121854612
nope
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Have you embraced fires of purity, Flamer-bros?
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>>121854680
Got a link to the script?
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>>121856557
nope

It's somewhere on reddit though, squared skin unlocker, something like that.
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>>121856471
I have now
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>>121851051
Thanks for buying my game!
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>>121856471

You know it.
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>>121856471
tfw college poorfag too wary to justify buy dlc to myself
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>>121857468
Use dlc unlocker

There's no reason to not to, since payday became jewday
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>>121853575
>>121856471
>>121857443
What's the best build for flamenwerfer friends? I'm running masterforcer, that way I have inspire and the 175% pickup rate, suit with grinder.
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>>121847184
Actually, deposit boxes (at least) have a hidden HP bar.
If your saw does more damage, you'll notice it'll saw faster.
Double true with berserker basic and minimum HP.
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>>121858032
grinder is the only thing you'll need, the rest is up to you
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>>121858095
The saw is an automatic weapon with a ROF, it always takes two "bullets" to open a box, mods or not. Berserker, Overkill and possibly some perk decks make it open the boxes with one click but post-patch the +damage mods are useless.
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More 40mm rounds when?
I want a lightweight one that doubles ammo capacity, blast radius, and reload speed but turns the accuracy, damage, and stun of the weapon to shit.
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>>121857625
don't wanna get kicked
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>>121858921
just
host
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>>121858749
>lightweight grenades
>bigger explosion
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If anyone wants to join for making a statement, ill be soloing it.

quasimodo, in chat
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>>121858749
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>>121858749
I'm all for more explosive weapons, but that idea just seems dumb.

How about the Grenade Pistol from KF2?
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Is the bullet hell achievement glitched? I got killin's as easy as breathing but bullet hell won't unlock no matter how many times I do it.
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Based Flamethrower carrying reddit sale shitters.
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>>121860830
Make sure you're using the buzzsaw
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>met a dude who was using cards in hoxout
>another dude opened up the armory
>tell the first dude to throw 2 cards and pick up the grenade case in the armory
Cards: 19
Interacting...
Cards: 20
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>>121863728
>101
am I supposed to be impressed or laughing at you?
because i'm definitely laughing at you.
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>>121868019
It was bank heist, there aint dick for cops on it.
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>>121868554
>carrying bankheist pubbies
next you'll tell me how it only takes you 10 minutes to do normal jewstore
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>>121869112
Why so angry senpai? Wanna talk about it?
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>>121869553
yeah, earlier today, some people were saying rude things and it just put me in an ANGRY mood
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>>121869806
Sorry to hear that. You should get on payday and use based flamethrower to take your aggression out on cops.
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>>121870038
I think i'll do that right now, anon, good advice.
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>>121870087
Happy to help senpai.
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are we kill now that fallout 4 is out?
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>>121872215
Nah people will be done with fallout 4 soon. It's very mediocre.
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>>121872215
We are back to pre-crimefest levels.
All the free weekenders have left, and the few that remain take the place of everyone who left after black market.
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Alright cock suckers and cock suckettes.
I had a crook-dodge build, mkay.
But I have a question.
I plan on using the JP36, DMR'd AMR-16, and WA2000 with a pistol secondary and the LBV. I have just enough concealment to hit 23 for maximum LBSB.
But my question is.
Should I go up the Mastermind tree for +25% Rifle Reload Speed, +50% Pistol Reload Speed, and Inspire Ace.
Or should I go up the Ghost tree for Silent Killer Ace, The Professional Ace, and have some points leftover for some cheap skills like Stun Res?
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>>121874179
Inspire > literally any other skill
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>>121836896

>autistic

The irony.
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>>121874494
See, that's the thing I have a hard time seeing.
Everyone says Inspire, but, when I think about it, it's only used if someone goes down and it's most handy when the nearby area is hot. However, it can revive people through walls, which is great.
But the Silencer skills are a straight upgrade to every applicable weapon's damage, accuracy, stability, and it can do bodyshots on tans. It's always active whenever you fire your gun.
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>showing pubs how to make 4 sets on hotline day 1
>we get 5
Today is a good day
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>>121875147

It's about utility and the fact that you are extremely vulnerable when reviving someone and it takes you out of the game for as long as it takes you to run all the way over to them and do the default revive. A single person going down and then everyone else going to save him and going down in a domino effect loses missions. Silent killer isn't useful for every weapon or setup since it's about hitting damage breakpoints and not just increasing your damage.
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>>121875541
I'm XV and i just learned that this week
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whats some good melee weapons?
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>>121875863
iirc any of the 4s charge time weapons.
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>>121875147
>Only useful when someone goes down
Shit son play more than five minutes and have to deal with those fags not reving folks.
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>>121875863
buzzer and katana

kunai has some utility and does okay damage fast
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>>121875541
Wait, so you can alter how many ingredients you get?
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>>121876274
The kunais good cause it procs grinder where as buzzer doesn't. But buzzer does proc infiltrator.
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>>121876564
Yep, as long as you open the square crate to the left of the computer LAST you get 4 sets every time.
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>>121876749
Is that it? Does opening any crate first help up the chances?
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>>121876909
Nope, I can show you if you want.
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Rate our chances of success /pdg/
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>>121877617
high unless those are 3 pubs then 5/10
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>>121876632
I think buzzer procs grinder now.
Either that or I was seeing shit.
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>>121877031
please do. is it my left or the scanner's left?
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>>121878464
Join group chat i'll show you.
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>>121877617
wait a sec what's the saw for?
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>>121878745
This
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>>121878567
i'd rather not thank you. thanks for the offer.
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>>121879197
Then why did you say you wanted me to show you? Yes its to the left of the scanner considering I said SQUARE crate not rectangular crate.
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>>121879314
a screenshot would have sufficed. thanks man.
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>>121879396
autist
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>>121879420
said the one who'd literally play a game with a stranger over a measly crate.
I still love you though
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>>121876632
I'm pretty sure it procs with the buzzer but I never really paid attention.
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