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>5 million active subscribers Can anything stop this behemoth?
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>5 million active subscribers

Can anything stop this behemoth?
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>>344981715
ps3 limitations
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>>344981715
>Can anything stop this behemoth?
Nothing can stop it on the road to MUHALAMHIGO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osbrtdcN0f8
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>>344981715

The shugo chara with SMT gameplay MMO that will use the same engine that is coming out next year.
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>active subscribers
don't you mean bots?
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why do japanese devs only put white characters in their games? Do they hate their own race?
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>>344981715
>Can anything stop this behemoth?

>WoW gets 10 million players
>FFXIV gets 1
>4 mill quit because latest x-pac is balls
>FFXIV announce they have 5mill subs

>Legion comes out in a month

RIP FFXIV next time actually design proper combat
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>>344984550
Legion is going to flop harder than WoD if the beta and PTR was anything to go by.
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>>344983707
Got a higher res senpai?
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>>344984605
>Legion is going to flop
>Almost all of the top/pro players are praising it already

??????????????????
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>those nigs who spend hundreds of dollars on fantasia potions by the droves on Balmung

I can't believe this shit game got away with 30 dollar cash shop mounts.
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>>344981715
Source where?
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>>344984605
>PTR was anything to go by

PTR is a new talent tree and an XMog system...
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Is it actually good though? I've only ever played WoW and Runescape

I'd like to get into competitive raiding again, with more than one or two guilds active.
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>>344985025
>Is it actually good though?
If you're expecting Wow, no. It plays nothing like Wow despite the meme Wow-clone.

If you're expecting a well polished theme-park mmo with tons of ff references then yes, it's pretty great.
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>>344985331
What are some top tier guilds in the game then? Is there like a ladder system or something? Also what is endgame like?

Oh and just to make sure, there is no pay2win shit right?
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>>344985428
Depends on the server, there isn't a ladder system, but there is a personal pvp ranking system.

It's pay2play, and pay for mounts that move at the same speed as free mounts, glamours, and old event costumes.

Endgame is a 4 part hardcore raid, and a new 8man trial of some sort every 3 months.

8man trials are basically just boss fights.
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>>344981715
I still wonder how come it makes fraction of wow's even with twice the subs
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>FF XIV has 5 million subs
>unstoppable behemoth

>WoW currently around 5 million
>Dying
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>>344985652
I have to be honest and say that the characters in this game looks like second life tier shit. I kinda prefer WoW's cartoony style.

Also, why can't I find any twitch streams of this game? Am I just retarded?
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>>344986227
>Also, why can't I find any twitch streams of this game? Am I just retarded?
Yes.

Also nothing like secondlife characters, if you believe that you're obviously suffering from diabetes and severe cataracts.


scroll down to around 200 viewers
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>>344986460
>200 viewers
>5 million players
Literally how? Community is extremely important to me in games, how can a game with so many players have so little community content?
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>>344986568
Nobody wants to watch 2.5 second GCDs.
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>>344986568
There is literally no correlation between how popular a game is, and how many people watch it. FF14 has no famous streamers or anything, and most of the popular users have youtube channels for how to guides on their page.
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>>344983965
Japanese are white
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>>344986568
>>344986738
has nothing to do with the gcd. the only content worth watching are raids and at this oiint everyine has done them

game needs more real endgame content.
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>>344986738
Literally this

The combat in that game is worse than literally any MMO I've ever played- super slow, half the skills root you even for melee, and the ones that don't make your character slide. Not to mention the fact that you have like 3 super simple rotations (that light up on your keyboard) you have to spam instead of one interesting one because buffs...
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>>344987315
OK then. Just a bit surprised. I'm going to try out the trial now. It might be an amazing game.

I think I want to play a tank, so that's the Gladiator class, right?
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>>344987756
>I think I want to play a tank, so that's the Gladiator class, right?
Gladiator(Paladin) and Marauder(Warrior). In Heavensward there's also Dark Knight.
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Its a decent game, the only bad thing is it doesnt try anythign super unique so if you like MMOs in general its a safe bet. The content will keep you going for a while + expansion.

If you want to play with 4chan (which isnt as bad as it sounds) AVOID BALMUNG AT ALL COSTS. Nothing but ERPers.
Ultros has a large FC, gilgamesh has a linkshell of people trying to get into high end raiding there (if you can get on the server) so try those instead.

>>344987756

GLD -> PLD
MRD -> WAR
DRK (In heavensward)
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>>344987748
Like if you're gonna shitpost this terribly, why even waste your time?

In fact, why are you even in a thread about a game you don't like? Isn't there something better to do with your time like get a life or something like that?

Like wtf is your thought process, honestly, "Hey my life is shitty, I'm gonna wake up today for some reason, because god didn't have the grace to end it in my sleep, and shitpost in a game I don't like so I feel better about my impotency?

>>344987756
I wouldn't go with gladiator as a first tanking class, marauder is a lot harder, but if you're experienced in tanking you should pick it up pretty quickly.
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>>344986056
>WoW currently around 5 million
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>>344988069
So is marauder simply better than gladiator then? I used to do prot tanking in WoW, but that's only because I also did some PvP, and I really enjoyed warrior pvp.

I normally enjoy Paladin classes more.

Also what is the best race for a Gladiator or a Marauder?
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>>344981715
FFXIV has nowhere near 5 million. That number, which was released last year, included everyone who, at any time, had paid for a month's subs. Most estimates place FFXIV around 800,000 to 1,200,000 active, concurrent subs. In other words, it is getting BTFO. Which makes sense, because it is shit. Of course, the whole MMORPG genre has been shit for over 5 years.
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TWO

POINT

FIVE

SECOND

GLOBAL

COOLDOWN
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>>344988069
Relax anon, there are plenty of people who play other low-tier MMOs like Aion and Neopets
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Source: your ass.
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>>344988335

Race doesnt matter as much as 11, play whatever you want.

As for tanks:
GLD/PLD is based on heavy mitigation: you'll be taking 0 damage when other tanks are mashing cooldowns, and rattling off blocks with your shield left and right while keeping the boss debuffed with the only on-demand GCD stun in the game. Lategame they get ally shield and heals.

MRD/WAR ends up being a DPS/TNK hybrid where if they dont actually have to tank they end up dishing out huge amounts of damage, and when they are tanking they deal less damage and are a bit shaky on cooldowns but can keep the boss debuffed permanently to help out everyone else. Also super strong aoe damage/hate.
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>2.5s GCD
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>>344988441
>play WoW
>Mythic progression drags on, everyones getting tired
>decide to make coffee
>can't drink it during combat
>fuckthis.jpg

>suddenly hear about FFXIV
>give it a try
>can now drive to the grocery store between skills

Thank god for based MMO
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>>344988335
Nobody takes Paladin anymore. Warrior is essential to every end-game raiding composition.
Plus you get to wield a fuckhuge axe and fell cleave niggers all day long.
You still need to level Gladiator up enough to get your cross-class skills. They're essential for playing any Tank class to the fullest.
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>>344981715
LOL

500k would be really generous.
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>>344988441
so much of this
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Combat is a joke, the real meat of the game is crafting and housing.
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>>344988726
>cross-class skills
what

Also, am I fucked for playing in EU region? I feel like most non-Japs playing this game are playing on NA.
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>>344981715
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>>344989054
>>cross-class skills
>what
Classes and jobs can use a limited amount of skills from other classes.
Classes can have 10 of any other class.
With jobs it's 5 skills from two classes.

>Also, am I fucked for playing in EU region? I feel like most non-Japs playing this game are playing on N
Depends. Where are you from?
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>>344989501
Sweden, but I assume all of EU is one region? Unless it's like LoL where I got put into EU East, but then I'll just remake an account and do an EU West one.
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>>344983965
The lizards are Japs with skin probems.
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>>344983707
It's like a "Coming soon on /gif SFM Thread"
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>>344989682
Game has 2 point 5 minute cooldowns you can play it on Ausfailia ping
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>>344989682
EU servers have been located to germany and NA servers are in canada, so EU should be perfect for your connection. Though if you want to play on NA, avoid the Balmung server. It's ERP central.
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>>344989083
the thing you don't need to play this game?
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>>344989083
You don't need PSplus to play FFXIV.
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>>344990016
Are there any 4chan guilds or servers on EU?
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>>344990630
>>344990852
You don't even need a Playstation.

>>344990951
You wouldn't want to play with 4chan.
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I played it since launch, just quit recently. If you don't have the time to play everyday (or don't want to play any other games) then don't even bother. Theres easy content that you grind for charity gear every day or you join a hardcore faggot group for this months top tier gear.
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>>344988069
Lmao the guy can weigh in with his opinion when he sees the thread while casually browsing /v/.
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>>344988705
KEK
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>>344989025
Yea I love making shit that I'll dread using in shit combat and/or selling it to others for the same purpose

Better still is making furniture for my house. I play on the ERP server so it's basically SecondLife with the opportunity to fight ladybugs
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>>344990951
There's some EU people in the Ultros FC, but I think most of them are on Moogle or something.
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So I'm in a shit fc on the erp server, I'm finished with the main story and got the classes i wantto 60. What should i do now? I haven't done any crafter/gathering and the chance I'll do high lvl trials and raids is low since i play only a couple hours a day
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>>344988069
>Like if you're gonna shitpost this terribly, why even waste your time?
He's not shitposting though, the combat feels really clunky mostly due to the GCD. It just doesn't feel responsive at all compared to WoW.

I really was hoping to love it, and i liked pretty much everything else but the combat, the core of an MMO was really unplayable to me.
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I'm really liking the game so far. Been playing for about 1.5 months.

I'm actually surprised that I would ever find an MMO that is on par with WoW.

Though I'm kind of snuffed that the only dps parsing addons out there makes the game lag a lot, which annoys me since I can't improve my DPS if I don't know how much I'm doing.
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>>344992897

Transfer.
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>>344986568

You know there's a possibility most people don't think watching a MMORPG play is the most exciting thing in the world.
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>>344993243
>MMORPG
>Combat is core

Uh, no. That's called a fighting game or an action game. If RPG is in the acronym, then story/setting is 99% of what matters.
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>>344993737
Well Runescape has 13K and WoW 12K viewers at the moment. So at least some people find it exciting.

You have to admit that 200 viewers is extremely little.
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>>344993243
>He's not shitposting though, the combat feels really clunky mostly due to the GCD.

Anyone who actually thinks this is true, has played the game for 10 minutes.
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>>344986056
Wow doesn't have 5 million subs, most of those are probably chinks playing in internet cafes.
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>>344993920
FFXIV is 10% gameplay and 90% ERP
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>>344994083
>Runescape

Why the fuck are people watching Runescape of all things
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>>344988426
A million subs is more than enough to sustain an MMO, and more than the vast majority. WoW has made the industry retarded and made publishers expect multi-million subs for ever game.
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The idea of competing for #1 and trying to get the WoW audience is what killed a lot of MMOs in the first place, if you can fill a niche and have 100k or whatever loyal subs then you're fine
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Where's the nude patch at?
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HOLY SHIT I FORGOT TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION
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>>344994475
>if you can fill a niche

Yeah, but most MMOs aren't niche at all. Most MMOs are following the EQ model.

The only MMO that can justifiably be said to be filling a niche, is Eve Online.
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>>344992897

go crafting/gathering if you still wanna play.
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>>344986568
>5 million players
Are you retarded?
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>>344987502
>implying
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I have never played a proper mmo. Is it worth the time and money?
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>>344988441
I understand being a wow babby who needs epic fast faceroll 2 button rotation, but this is a final fantasy game. The long gcd makes it feel similar to jts turn based roots, and allows for muh more complex rotations with many more abilities. You probably don't care about that though since your vraphics are so shit you cant tell one spell from another anyway
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>>344993596
What are you talking about? I run ACT and it doesnt affect the game in any way and my system was midrange like 6 years ago. What toaster are you running the game on? or does xiv app or whatever the other parser is run that badly?
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>>344987315
>there is literally no correlation between how popular a game is, and how many people watch it
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>>344995173
dumb frog poster
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Well my experience with FFXIV is that the gameplay is balls tier but it was nice scenery and pretty cool people
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>>344995049
I tried to run ACT too, and it lowers my FPS by like 15.

My comp was top-end like 5 years ago too, cost like 2000 dollars.
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>>344994692
DAoC with RvR, and the director for the sequel has explicitly said he wants to appeal to hardcore players and doesn't really care about casuals
But yes you're right most MMOs are derivative as hell but then so is everything
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>>344995281
That level of delusion deserves a frogpost.
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>>344995428
Wat. Thats crazy. Has it always done that? maybe try reinstalling? Or try using xivapp (or whatever its called I forget).
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>>344996052
>Actually using anything other than ACT

Look at this faggot
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>parserfags
You can go back to /xivg/.
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>>344995173
According to your logic, Hearthstone is more popular than Overwatch.

There is no correlation between views and player base. None. At all. There is no delusion. There never was.
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>>344996406
300dps DRG spotted

don't you have a ledge to backflip off of
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I found a free company that filled in the hole that was left when I left my guild in GW.

That's all I wanted out of a fucking MMO anyways. Can we stop pretending like they're at all complex or entertaining as any other genre. You play these games for the community.
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>>344988335
>So is marauder simply better than gladiator then? I used to do prot tanking in WoW, but that's only because I also did some PvP, and I really enjoyed warrior pvp.


Paladin is very slow and basic, like white mage, some people love it, most get bored.

>>344991743
>Lmao the guy can weigh in with his opinion when he sees the thread while casually browsing /v/.
Ok I see the need to defend yourself, but it's not his opinion, it's a parrot opinion.

How many times in each thread do we have to see the same stupid
>muh 2.5 argument said and disproved again and again?

It's not a 2.5 global cooldown because you one, get off cooldown skills to use, and 2 can get it at or under 2 seconds with the proper equipment and materia.

That said the whole game is balanced around the cooldown, it's not an attack heavy game, it's a mechnic heavy game, you're not gonna just stand around and do nothing majority of the time you'll be dodging or handling one mechnic or another
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>>344996525
Dis nigga gets it, if i wanted to play a MMO for the actual game, i would play .hack //GU all day or FFXII.
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>>344994649
>having an auto-renew sub
retarded desu
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>>344994083
>You have to admit that 200 viewers is extremely little.
No. Twitch has nothing to do with a game's popularity. Skyrim has sold millions of copies, minecraft is still popular as shit and those don't have a ton of viewers.

Most people who watch ff14 watch youtube videos, the most popular easily get tens of millions of reviews.
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>>344994279
neither does FF, as the 5 mil number is the total amount of accounts made, not paying active subscriptions
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>>344981715
>baiting with the 5 million meme

It's 5 million accounts created, which means jackshit because the game goes for $5 every week and has been in two bundles already.
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>>344986568
Because while 5 million retards might have fallen for this shit WoW clone at one point, only 600k of them have been consistent active subscribers since 2013. You can't build a Twitch channel around a shit game with no content especially when its barebones content is also shit, even the "top" FFXIV streamfags only max at 300 viewers at best.
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>paying millions of gil for a mount
>not paying just a few dollars for one in the e-shop
25 is less than a million.
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>WoW is shit
>Burned out on XIV
>BDO was a disappointment
I love this genre but I hate it
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ffxiv is living, not thriving
if 3.0 is anything to go by, 4.0 will only continue to alienate core users while doing the exact same mistakes WoW did
remember that time Yoshi said he was considering a "skip to expac" microtransaction?

g e t f u c k e d
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>>344986738
wow its almost like you obviously haven't played past level 15
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>>344997464
you do realize a skip to expac ticket is a good idea right?
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>>344997284
is it a wowclone or not

shitposters can't seem to keep it consistent
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>>344996406
/xivg/ does pretty shit dps and sucks at the game
you'd fit right in
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>>344988612
DRK has an on-demand GCD stun
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>>344981715
>Nintendo has Pokemon GO
>Squeenix has Final Fantasy XIV
>There are now two good 3D Mortal Kombat games

What next? A good Sonic game?
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>>344997464
>if 3.0 is anything to go by

What, that its actually fucking good and fun?
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>>344997564
If you want people to burn through the content and unsub quicker.
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>>344997353
>Not learning how economy works and rolling in dosh all the time with minimal effort

Dude, You can get rich by reselling npc shit, because people is dumb as hell.
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>>344997712
do you want them to give up halfway through the pre heavensward level 50 quests?
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>>344997652
DRK's stun is off GCD, unless you're both typoing one what you really mean
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>>344996523
>>344997651
Nobody really gives a shit about 1% more or less dps than the first clear autists.
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>>344997564
>endgame is full of retards
>retarded corporate apologist drones always bitching about STOP RUSHING TO ENDGAME AND TAKE YOUR TIME TO PLAY THE GAME to anyone saying bad things about this shit game
>tryhard retards always bitching about shit DPS
>but a skip item is a good idea!

Autism.
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Never forget the 4.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwZ2tZoq6Jc
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>>344981715
Yes something will in about 2 months.
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>>344997831
looks like i was right on the money with the "retard DRG player" comment.
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Somebody explain why people complain about endgame content so much that has always confused me
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>>344997854
China only
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>>344997854
95% of the shit between when you start and when you hit endgame right now does nothing to prepare you for actual endgame content. skipping to an expac wouldn't change anything about retards getting to level cap and being bad at endgame content.
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>>344997975
2 shit dungeons, 4 shit "raid" bosses and 1 shit standalone boss. That's all the endgame content you get per patch, and all gear gets invalidated every 2 patches, with the patch following the main "raid" patch being just a shit catch up patch with no new relevant gear.
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>>344998053
China is a special snowflake that needs to face reality and stop being anti-humanity.
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>MUH 2.5 SECOND GCD
this shit is in every thread. wow you haven't played more than 5mins of the game and don't realize that even far before max level you're chaining skills and weaving oGCDs unless you're an absolute mouthbreathing retard which is pretty likely all things considered
fucking kill yourselves lol
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>>344987502
seriously though I know that the japps(as my grandfather would call them) are having a hard time producing babies and are intent on creating robots rather than just introducing some more socially engineered lovin, but damn am I happy that they are staying a cohesive monocultural society, any outpost of western civlization that isn't getting fucked is a plus in my book at this point considering what's happening to europe. Not even pol.
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>>344998165
can smell the butthurt through my monitor
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>>344998165
>>344998165
>>344998165
>>344998165

Wake me up when all of XIV community wake up and smell the static cycle that is Yoshit's shitty fucking MMO.
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>>344998165
The Palace of the Dead thing seems like a cool idea though.
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>>344998314
Can smell Yoshida's cum on your triple chins through my monitor.
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>>344998165
>>344998340
>>344998387
>tfw you'll never be this assmad that other people are enjoying a game and having fun raiding
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>>344998354
I dunno. I was looking forward to it, but the closer we the to the update the more I doubt this will be something amazing. It sounds just like another thing you "HAVE" to grind while doing a shitload of other things that are either in need of more (better) content or an overhaul.
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>Tfw Yoshiposter WoWcuck tried this shit 9 months ago.
>I told him every thread that 6.2 was the last content patch and he'd have no new content for another 10-12 month.
>I was right.
I wonder what stings more, me being 100% right or Legion looking like it'll be a giant pile of shit.
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>>344998678
Probably both, seeing how asshurt he is
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>>344996416
Views are mainly based on how many popular faggot streamers are playing at the time. Said streamers are playing the games they are because there is a sizeable playerbase and therefore more people willing to watch them.
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>>344997784
I'm sorry you didn't get the joke.
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>>344998354
>>344998661

>didn't even release with 3.3
>releasing this late into the patch, with only another month and a half away from 3.4
>only drops 235 gear and weapons at best and will be instantly invalidated and abandoned the second 3.4 releases
>it's not even complete, it only has 50 floors and the full version won't release until 3.5

It's dead on arrival, just like Diadem and LoV.
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>>344981715
>>5 million active subscribers

Got a source for your claim, weeb?

Didn't think so, slime. `
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>>344998678
>MUH WOW BOOGEYMAN

I've never played WoW, retarded SE corporate apologistcuck.
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>>344998661
>It sounds just like another thing you "HAVE" to grind

There's really very little grind in this game. I've been playing for 1.5 months, and I have 223 ilvl on my BLM, which is pretty close to highest gear level possible.

There's no fucking way you could play WoW for a month and a half, and be equivalent geared.

Besides, the only *really* grindy shit in FFXIV is anima weapon it seems to me.
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>>344998815
The thing that probably stings most is watching WoW lose even more sub while FFXIV continues to grow its each patch.

>>344999058
>I-Im n-not the same guy I-I promise.
>I just really hate this product that doesn't hurt me in any way. I-It's totally not in competition with my favourite game or anything *stutters*
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Anyone on Gilgamesh wanna do expert?

I don't really feel like queuing for 20 minutes.
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>>344999337
>he's on the biggest tool server known on XIV

I bet you're stuck on A7S or 2nd phase before Brute.
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>>344999326
is that real
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>>344997698
3.0 is when the game starting going down the drain.
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>>344999326
It's a good thing WoW and all its shit clones are equally shit and only retarded corporate cucks care about which clone is "superior".
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>>344999554
What's the patrician's MMO of choice then?

inb4 the entire genre is shit
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>>344997018

Jesus fucking christ, about time someone showed this shit. What's the site called again? Chocobo or something .jp ?
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>>344999612
The entire genre is shit.

FFXI and DQX but FFXI is 95% single player at this point.
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>>344999525
Yes, this picture was from about one month after 6.2. It was only listed like that for about a week before blizzard changed the requirements for what makes a server low/high pop.
The high pop servers now barely qualify as medium pops if that now.

>>344999554
It's so cute that you've changed your mind now. 9 months ago you were saying that 6.3 and the next expansion would kill FFXIV.
Guess you realized saying those things would make you look Ike a moron now.
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>>344999270
>There's really very little grind in this game.
Gatherer and crafter red scripts
Diadem
PvP
Weekly challanges
Aquapolis
Triple Triad
Chocobo racing
CT weekly
Sure you don't have to do any of that, but most likely you'll feel the need to do them regardless or else you'll be way behind everyone else. Also your friends might force you to run PotD every week, if not day.

I just wish they'd at least fix some systems and add more content to that, instead of giving us another new thing every major patch which will feel halfassed like the other things.
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>>344987502
To be honest, they're mostly better than whites
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>>344986738
As someone that plays Wow and xiv I can tell you xiv has much more button pressing than WoW has ever had, especially when you play something like let BRD where you have two oGCDs in every GCD
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>>345000142
>t. Wowcuck
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>>344998281
It turns people off and admittedly makes early game pretty boring
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>>344998354
Diadem 2.0
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>>344999880
Do they ever plan on releasing DQX in the west?
I like DQ
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>>345000253
>t. Squeenixcuck
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>>345000281
Not as long as Yoshida the Hack is in charge of the entire MMO financial division and keeps cockblocking its release so he can hug all the budget for himself and his tours.
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>>344999326
>FFXIV continues to grow its each patch
Every NA server is pretty much dead outside of Gilgamesh and Balmung.
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>>345000007
>or else you'll be way behind everyone else

Way behind in what way? I don't get how playing card games or doing chocobo racing puts you "way behind someone".

Who gives a shit about side-games that don't give you any rewards other than *maybe* mounts?
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>>345000007
The only things there that would place you behind if you didn't do them are Scrips and CT weekly if that means capped Tomestone weekly. PVP I guess if you're into that thing. If you're at end-game the only thing to focus on is raising your ilvl, which is done with getting the Lore gear and running Weeping City once a week along with Void ark Once a week for the penny and farthing to upgrade the lore gear.

You make it sound like there's a constant grind and it's awful, but you can literally get everything you need to stay caught up by either grinding it out in a day once a week or at a pleasant pace throughout the week.

Diadem is dead and serves no purpose. weekly challenges serve no purpose outside of leveling. Aquapolis is just a fun side dungeon that drops what used to be super fucking expensive to craft/buy loot. How is Triple Triad a grinding thing in any way? Or Chocobo Racing for that matter?
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Friendly reminder that avatar fagging is against the rules and you can report him.
He's been banned for it before.
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>>345000000
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>>344997018
Lies and slander. It grows at least 300k subs per patch.
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Is WoWfag the new barneyfag?
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>>345000841
Why are you so upset? Did you legitimately enjoy the game at some point? Most people are disappointing in how it turned out but they just unsub instead of ranting in every thread.
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>>345001017
He's an old tripfag who went to a cosplay thing with Yoshi as a judge. Yoshi told him that he couldn't pull it off because he was fat so he quit the game and went back to WoW.
I'm not even joking. I'll find the video in the a second.
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>>345001017
>if you enjoy something you can't ever say bad things about it

Kill yourself my apologist cuck friend.
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>>345001227
Nice buzzwords my obese friend.

*tips fedora*
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>>345001220
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>>345001220
>delusional Squeenixcucks looking for a boogeyman still think I'm nep

Face it retards, your game is shit and dropping subs like flies, and your WoW memes mean nothing to me or the game.
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You can tell it has a tiny playerbase cause the GMs avoid banning players. If they had the subs they wouldn't be so desperate to retain gold-sellers and miscreants.
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>>345001220
>>345001446
wait, it's true?
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>>345001593
Top kek, it seems like it might be.
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>>345001574
I botted for like a week straight to level my gatherers to 60. Didn't even get a warning.
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>>345001678
>>345001593
>>345001446
>>345001227
>>345001220
>>345001017
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcGbSMPAnhw
10:22
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>>345001574
GMs ban in waves, they have a 2 week investigation and then when they confirmed everyone is guilty they ban them all in one sweep.
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>>345001815
I don't remember Garuda being this chesty.
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RIP Nep
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>>345001815
the cringe
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>>345001815
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>>344998930
Deep Dungeon isn't endgame content, it's leveling content so it will never be dead just like how 2 years on Sastasha still isn't dead content.
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>>345001815
AAAHAHAHAHA
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what went right?
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>tfw there will never be good MMOs ever again
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>>345002130
>just like how 2 years on Sastasha still isn't dead content.
Because Satasha is required for progression. Palace of the Gothloli is OPTIONAL.
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>>345001815
>Giving you a gift for saving Final Fantasy

CRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGE
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>>345002372
So? There is nothing stopping you from asking friends or using party finder to go do a Deep Dungeon run if you're leveling a job or want to take a break from everything else.

And if your friends don't want to go, you can always go in solo.
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>>344998165

Oh okay so the complaint is from people that don't play FFXIV

>all gear gets invalidated every 2 patches

Its a fucking MMO, how is this not to be expected. Welcome to the gear treadmill that Everquest made a standard.
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>>345001815
lel
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>>344993596
Turn off the overlay bullshit and your FPS will be fine.
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>Tfw gonna get started on my relic

How bad is the 200-210 grind now? Can I buy the HQ shit on auction board?
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>>345002503
And I was telling you that your comparission isn't working, dipshit.
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>>345002785
still horrible and yes
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>>345002776
What do you mean? What overlay bullshit?
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>>345002785
Buying the shit isn't the bad part.
The awful thing is that the fatsest way to farm for it before, Gordias, is no longer relevant content so it's almost impossible to farm out.
I'm praying that Deep Dugeon gives a way to g the 20/20/20/20 items because it's an even worse grind then when out now, especially since you can't waste Eso on the unidentifiable things now that the 240 step is an even worse Eso grind.
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>>345002794
Well true, Sastasha is a bad comparison. I guess it's more like Aurum Vale. Even people who don't need it for quest still queue up for it just to level.
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>>345002949
ACT comes default with a thing that displays the dps meter, or something I dunno, over the FFXIV application, lowering your FPS.

When you turn it off it goes back to normal. I know because I had the same problem.
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>>345003075
Gordias was never the fastest way to farm it. It was always 2.X hunts and it still is.
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>>345002949
He's talking about any of the stuffs that actively tells you your dps. Only check the logs after to see your dps to save framerate.
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>>345002785
Why would you do that to yourself?
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>>345003093
>implying anyone wants to bother with pug groups for Aurum Vale
The moment leveling a class requires grinding Aurum Vale is the moment anyone I know just joins the FATE train in Northern Thanalan.
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>>345003119
For some reason the FFXIV overlay doesn't even show in-game at all, my game just gets an FPS drop.

But how do you turn off the default then?
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>>345003220

Allied seals you mean? You can only get 2 out of the 4 that way
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>>345003220
2.x relics while spamming Gordias in between was the fastest. Most people who poopsock it got the majority of their 20/20/20/20 from Gordias.
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>>344981715
>old XIV
wew lad
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>>345003392

>Implying it doesn't give you something to do between patches

You people want instant gratification and then complain there is nothing to do
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>>345003234
Thanks, I figured it out.

Ignore this post pls.>>345003495
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>>345003482
I'd rather watch paint dry than do FATEs. Unless it has been changed since post second coil patches, but I doubt it.
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>>345003579

Is it just normal Gordias?

I don't see why one couldn't just make a farm party for it
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>>345003656
Now you can parse in comfy style
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Stopped playing in January
Is it worth resubbing yet?
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>>345003831
3.2 was top tier and 3.3 was great as well so yeah go for it.
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>>345003641
I want to clear the content and marathon whenever I want, not get gated and have nothing to do for the rest of the day/week.

>>345003831
If you want more of the same thing.
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>>345003093
Aurum Vale is still part of a quest line, if not even main story. Palace is one quest to open then running it. It does ot require neither will it tie to any other questline besides references. It's as optional as Diadem.
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>>344981715
>Can anything stop this behemoth?
ilvl 90 and above should be just fine so long as the group is large enough.
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>>345003785
Thanks bro.
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I tried to get into ff14, but the MSQ was one of the worse gaming experiences of my life. It was fucking awful, running endless "go talk to this guy" quests over and over and over, pressing two buttons because it seems like the combat is garbage until you reach the later levels.

Its a shame, because the endgame looks alright, I just couldn't deal the dullest mmo 1-50 or whatever of all time.
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>>344986568
Because people are actually playing it?
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>>345003537
Allied Seals + Esoterics (Law at the time) + Poetics at the same time meant extremely fast relics if you got all hunts in the 3 hour window.
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>>345003641
I'd rather do nothing at all than than that """"content"""".
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>>345004129
The MSQ is cancer, yes.
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I really wanted to love FFXIV. I really did.

The lack of character customization and the combat killed it for me though. I used to play the shit out of FFXI with my dad and now have become so jaded that tab targeting just isn't fun for me anymore, but all the action MMOs are absolute shit.
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>>345003831
Fuck no.
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>>345003942
And 95% of the people I meet in Aurum Vale aren't people running it for the quest, they are doing it to level alts. The only difference is in Aurum Vale you get people who are doing their leveling roulette to fill in spots. But because Deep Dungeon has no class restrictions, even if the queue is full of DPS for Deep Dungeon, you will still get a pop.

>>345003482
Aurum Vale pugs are fine on my data center. Even tanks who get hit by swings and swipes on second boss don't die and can be healed up before the next big hit.
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>>345004129
The expansion is much much better with the MSQ. Only real complaint is the handful of filler moogle hide and seek quests.
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>>345004367
Then what do you find appealing about the game that keeps you playing?
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>>345004648
I don't even know anymore.
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>>345004935
Well the only one keeping you there is you dude.
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>>345004547
This isn't a FF for FF fans. This is a FF for casual MMO players.
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>>344981715
Time.
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>>345005119
>casual MMO players

Which are FF fans. I bet half of the subs or maybe even more have never even played an MMO before.
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>>345005119
>No actual FF beast races
>Just generic humans with animal bits
>Nobody really cares

Casual indeed
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What did (s)he mean by this?
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>5 million subscribers meme

I'd be surprised if FFXIV is even over 500k right now.
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>>344998306
They still have a bunch of blacked porn for some reason.
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>>345005504
I don't care if the random DF healer isn't DPSing as long as they are healing, unfortunately half of them can't even do that properly.
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>>345005504
it means casting aero and stone occasionally in addition to clicking teammates is hard :^(
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>>345005504
That's great if you want to focus on healing, I don't blame anyone for that. But if you're just standing there waiting for someone's health to drop, the least you could do is throw an extra Stone II at the enemy.
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>WoL is a primal
>they are a primal of the WoD
>the WoD is the hero from 1.0
Does this sound about right?
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>>345005504
>make retarded entry i-level
>healcucks complain that they need to dps to compensate
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>>345004129
>, I just couldn't deal the dullest mmo 1-50 or whatever of all time
MSQ 1-50 can be done in a day. lmao
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>>345005547
>FFXIV is secretly unpopular meme
wew those keks m80.
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/v/ is home to Blizzard marketers lately so you're going to hear a lot more negative things about FFXIV than you should, and a lot of it will be lies too.

Blizzard is extremely desperate and panicked over FFXIV, so when their marketers aren't making Overwatch and Legion threads they're shitting on FFXIV in FFXIV threads or shitting on FFXV in FFXV threads (because of the FFXV movie doing way better than the Warcraft movie did)
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>>345005504
Is it even possible to tank without doing damage?
Flash flash provoke piety build? Then tell people your job is to tank not do damage
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>>345005547
Subscriptions, not active players. Hell, bots might actually take up a good chunk of the numbers, but that is still money in SE's pocket.
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>>345005951
They said the WoD is not related to the WoL stand-in.
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>>345005504
Fuck these people. What the hell else are you going to do in a dungeon? As a tank I COULD just use my hate combo three times and then tab out but what's the point when I can contribute and help the run go faster.
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>>345005504
I've been leveling WHM as my first healer recently, and players are legitimately surprised when I use Cleric Stance instead of just standing in place waiting to heal. Is it that rare for healers to DPS?
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>>345006034
>500k
>unpopular
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>>344993920
>story is 99%
Uh, no. That's called a book or a movie. If VIDEO GAME is the medium, then GAMEPLAY is 99% of what matters.
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