>he isn't playing VNotY right now
what is wrong with you /v/?
go to the backerkit, the keys are there
it's nothing like Nekopara, or whatever trash VNs you've been exposed to, ML is a wild ride that requires you to be emotionally invested in the characters.
if you can't be arsed to invest 15hrs into Extra/Unlimited then you certainly don't have the patiences for the 50hrs of alternative
Who /NVA/ here?
Yeah, until you start getting to the parts of the game that are actually good.
Then the PTSD shit starts happening.
I've read shit like Tsukihime, Cross Channel, Majikoi, and Demonbane, among others. Not patrician tier taste, but it ain't my first rodeo.
I know that Muv-Luv is a wild ride, but its a wild ride I don't seem to have the time for, given how you have the entire SOL VN, which is apparently anywhere from 10-20 hours, before you get to Extra, which is itself apparently around 10 hours, then you get to alternative which is apparently a whopping 50+ hours.
Shit just seems like too much, my man.
i meant unlimited and alternate, but skipping the first part with the boring as fuck school setting.
i don't mind investing the time, but fuck the slice of school life shit. i mean it's not really even necessary is it?
From the kickstarter
Photon Flowers and Photon Melodies are collections of stories compiled from various âge-soft titles and originally released for the PS3. If you’ve played Muv-Luv Supplement, Altered Fable, or Chronicles, you may be familiar with some of the short story titles:
1. Muv-Luv Supplement
a. Sakura no Hana ga Saku Mae ni - 桜の花が咲く前に ?Muv-Luv After Episode?
b. Muv-Luv ~Another Episode Collection~
2. Ayu-Mayu Alternative
a. Atonement (Shokuzai - 贖罪)
b. Inheritance (Shoukei - 承継)
3. Muv-Luv Chronicles 01
a. Chicken Divers (チキン・ダイバーズ)
b. Rain Dancers (レイン・ダンサーズ)
4. Kimi ga Ita Kisetsu (君がいた季節)
a. Confessions (Kokusaku - 告白)
1. Muv-Luv Chronicles 02
a. Aspiration - (Shoukei - 憧憬)
2. Muv-Luv Chronicles 03
a, Resurrection - (Saitan - 再誕)
3. Muv-Luv Altered Fable
a. Kagayaku Toki ga Kienu Mae ni - かがやく時空(とき)が消えぬ間に
>Is he really that bad?
>What is that?
Collections of all Altverse sidestories except Last Divers and War Ensemble + Before the Shimmering Time Ends.
Unlimited is a sequel to Extra. It's absolutely necessary.
The problem is that they made a great world but had to condense the entire thing into a single story.
Alternative is great whenever it involves Yuuko (the PTSD scene, the going back to your world, the Yuuko from that world working together with that Yuuko to solve that chip).
That was fun. The problem is that the war ends way too soon.
After the PTSD scene, everything becomes predictable. Especially the deaths.
The ship is going to blow up, gee, I wonder what will happen.
Gee, the timer is running out, the same thing is likely to happen, isn't it?
Wow, two guards with faces and voices are guarding this one girl important to the story, I wonder what will happen?
Oh look, it's the final battle that we don't get to see, time for everyone to just die.
Meiya comes to help? Well you know what time it is! Better let her kill herself by putting herself in front of the gun.
End of the story? Better also just let
Sumika die and be the cause of everything.
There needed to be more battles, wars, etc. You could tell they wanted to do that but ran out of time.
Meiya is the best.
Extra isn't that bad.
Tanks > TSFs
Giant robots are stupid. Should have build more tanks.
Pic related is best girl
Extra is amazing
Though the best part is when she volunteers to be raped to calm down Takeru. It's just a complete shame that the option to rape her wasn't given.
>Pic related is best girl
Unfortunately she didn't have any part of the story other than
>fuck yeah motherfucker
>we'll give you our mecha for the finale
>no change in their abilities
She should have fought at the end along with everyone else rather than just give them their mechas.
People that backed the Kickstarter get it today. Everyone else can buy it on Steam tomorrow.
Meiya is love I will fight you.
Pre-order is a bit different. The pre-order just means you can download and install the game, the people who chipped in the 1.2 mil the kikestarter got are the ones who get to play it 24 hours earlier.
Yeah, but the vanilla bit is apparently rather mediocre, and reading a VN that is for all intents and purposes just a set-up for the later chapters that get really grim and shit doesn't exactly strike me as something I feel like doing.
That was not fun to hear fourty hours in on a caffiene-fueled marathon
>Schwarzesmarken is edgeshit anyways.
Only for the plebs.
The patricians can understand what it truly is.
>Yeah, but the vanilla bit is apparently rather mediocre
mediocre =/= shit
This. Extra's fun as fuck.
I was more disappointed by Unlimited and Alternative than Extra by a lot.
I jerked it several times to Twizzlers, that just hit several fetishes hardcore
Animeonlies literally need not apply to any discussion about the personalities of anybody in SM.
>The majority of H-scenes in VNs are not fappable
You just haven't tried hard enough. I fapped to the H-scenes in Sharin no Kuni because it earned it.
I didn't fap to it but I appreciated its concept. Mind breaking to the point of /d/ and leaving only the mind.
That's arguably the best part other than the PTSD bit.
I'm not saying its shit, I'm just saying that I don't really know if I feel like putting my time into the beginning of a trilogy I am kind of interested in, but at the same time, the MUNCH shit I have seen posted is a pretty big turn off for me.
I don't know, but Wanko eventually burned me out on its H-scenes.
Also, GOD, fuck the Nadeshiko ending.
That might just be my point, anon. The anime is an unrecoverable piece of dogshit, but if you're only exposure to SM is from it, you can't say you're an authority on what's what.
They already got a million bucks when they only wanted 250k. I'm loving all the bonus stuff they are giving backers though. I'm going to end up with three copies of Muv-Luv by the end of this.
When is the ETA on Alt? I think it's winter. I'd rather not experience that Drakengard tier PTSD again for a second time.
>You sure are defensive of SM for some reason, even though it's not that great of a spinoff to begin with.
I never argued otherwise. You sure are eager to attack me, even though you don't fully understand the scope of the damage the anime has done to begin with.
I shall restate it for you and anyone reading it if they are confused, the SM anime is shit, shits on all the characters, shits on any plot that might've been decent otherwise, etc. That all there is to it.
Fucking bitch. I hope she felt that knife real good in her before she died.
That's a really nice post that doesn't really address anything I said, but okay.
Wow, that's pretty rude. Why would you hurt such a cute girl?
>she's literally a commie nazi
>she's a complete bitch to everyone
>she looks like a whore
>she a psycho, and not in the hot way but in the dead serious BTK way
>she's probably a lesbo
>her lips and lazy eyes look terrible
>>she's literally a commie nazi
Nice invocation of Godwin's Law, even though it's incorrect.
The rest of your post is incorrect or just evidence of your shit taste.
>Talking shit about S00mika
She time-warped and tortured billions out of her love for you, show some respect!
>Story tells you she's a shit
>Story makes sure to show she's rotten to the core
>All the characters are horrified at what she does
>Evil sounding background music whenever she's on screen
>Not one single scene of kindness, honor, or nice qualities
>Nah, she's not that bad just because she gets my boner nice and hard
Go to fucking /a/ if you want to talk about the shit anime. At least the Extra and Unlimited are kind of on topic.
>>Story tells you she's a shit
Story? What Story? The anime? You wouldn't unironically be suggesting that the anime original scenes that had Beatrix are the story, would you? You are pretty delusional.
Why the fuck do you want to defend her so bad? You're like one of those sand nigger defence force. You come up with all these excuses to try to make her sound not so bad because you can't squeeze your dick without feeling guilty to her I guess.
>Basically pampered shits who stay out of front lines because their rich daddy paid for this shit
>End up getting blown the fuck out because BETA don't discriminate
I really do like that her team fell apart the way it did, especially with how lead girl tried but failed killing her best friend. Really nice touch.
>I only watched a butchered half assed adaptation and think I know what the character is all about
Ignorance isn't attractive anon. Just read it for yourself if want to make some actual points.
>they get killed by grapplers
>You come up with all these excuses
Yes! That's exactly what you're doing. "Look at these anime original scenes that clearly show the characters are evil as fuck" only to go on pretending it's the truth, even though multiple different are telling you that you're simply wrong.
It's a bit alarming that your mind can distort reality that much. Are you taking medication? Are there people around you who can help you when you spaz out?
In the anime she was literally hitler.
In the source material the pacing is actually there and you are at least given a chance to understand why she performs morally ambiguous actions.
The fandisc was fucking weird
>Everything is a 24 reference
>Jack Bauer is the main antagonist
>Volleyball is impossible
>The sex was VR all along
She's the main villain and is a cunt who fucks with absolutely every character. She kills randomly and indiscriminately. She's responsible for 90% of the bad crap in the anime, tortures the heroes for mostly no reason, and even fucks over her own people for her amusement. She's responsible for fucking over MC's sister, and probably played a huge part in forcing the main heroine to kill her brother. In the end, she wanted to set herself up as dictator of Germany, and launched a coup to acheive it, even though they were all being attacked by aliens at the time. She's pretty much an evil robot and will always take the most evil route possible even if it hurts her. The other villains tend to be more realistic or reasonable in their douchebagery, and their evil usually serves a purpose.
Of course it is. All the main heroines die, and the ending is actually just something that leads to a fandisc that's essentially more of Extra. They could've left Alternative on a high note by simply having the credits roll when Takeru returns to his "original" universe.
The ending is the worst. Even Kikokugai's ending is less of a FUCK YOU, and that's a soul crushing mindfuck.
You are wrong though, like people have been telling you. It's seriously amazing you can be just this much of a blind little shitter.
Also, let's repeat these, maybe this time you might actually reply:
Are you taking medication for your delusions?
Is there someone nearby who can assist you if you spaz out? Protect yourself and others from you?
>volleyball is impossible
I've never raged harder at a video game as I did that one blind playthrough where I couldn't read Japanese.
I kinda liked it.
It gives you the whole FINAL BATTLE scene and then it resets for a "better" timeline.
I mean, if you can accept UL and AL's time jumps, you can accept that last one too, right?
It even has that failed Alternative 3 experiment on that timeline for those who like her.
>Fuck you you niggercunt.
Oh yes, so basically,
>my opinion is right even though multiple people tell me I can't see for shit
is a fact now. The delusion goes deeper with every post.
It's amazing you still couldn't read or understand the questions I gave at all. Can you even function on a daily basis without help? Or are you sitting in your own pile of shit right now, not even aware it's there at all because your delusions just simply prevent you? Fascinating.
I'm getting tired of your shit. You're trying to lie to people about shit, well, go on and lie. They'll hopefully watch the anime and figure out your bullshit on their own you troll.
That's pretty good. it misses a little because the scenes do not have context.
>They'll hopefully watch the anime and figure out your bullshit on their own you troll.
>watch the anime
You are undoubtedly delusional. What exactly do you think was the point of this entire discourse?
>You're trying to lie to people about shit, well, go on and lie.
Indeed it is.
Did you notice you just completely ignored yet another set of questions? That's how absolutely fucking stupid you are. Seriously, little anon, seek help. I worry about you and anyone who goes near you.
>Instead of a pleasure experiment, you get a pain experiment
>Your nerve endings are stimulated to the point that you're feeling nothing but pain as a brain in a vat
Sumika was fucking lucky
I got a little ways into normal mode and then my units started dying. They gave them a lovely little cutscene in the VN engine complete with crying, pleading and screaming right before dead, and those wonderful shrieks of metal being torn apart.
yeah no thanks, too much for my weak heart
It wasn't that he didn't know about them, he thought they were literally made up, in the sense that he didn't believe as someone who was even alive during the time that communist shitholes don't have state police.
I would, if the FUCKING GAME WOULD FUCKING WORK. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING FUCKING IMAGINABLE TO GET THIS PIECE OF SHIT TO WORK, I INSTALLED XP ON A COMPUTER FROM 2005 AND IT DOESN'T WANT TO FUCKING WORK I HATE THIS GAME AND I HATE THE FUCKING INSTALLATION PROCESS AND I HOPE THAT ONE DAY WHEN I DIE I CAN FINALLY GO TO FUCKING HEAVEN JUST SO THAT WHEN I'M AT THE PEARLY GATES AND ST. WHATEVER ASKS ME IF I HAD ANY REGRETS IN LIFE I CAN THEN TAKE A SHIT FROM ABOVE DIRECTLY INTO THE CUNT WHO PROGRAMMED THIS BULLSHIT'S HEAD, AND THEN BE SENT STRAIGHT TO FUCKING HELL WHERE I WILL REVEL IN WHAT I DID FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY.
Thing is, no one gives a flying fuck about Extra. It's more of a living hell than the actual BETA universe. The mission in Alternative is a success, but the cast that you spent the vast majority of time with is dead and the war with the BETA goes on. Shoving an absolutely fucking awful fandisc in your face after that finale is unbelievably shitty writing.
Even if you've been spoiled, I suggest to anyone who's reading the series to ALT+F4 the VN the moment Takeru says his farewells and consider that the end. Those last 5 minutes completely destroy any feels you may have after the Alternative conclusion.
YOU THINK I DIDN'T DO THAT YOU FUCKING FAG? I INSTALLED JAPANESE XP YOU CUNT. I INSTALLED REGULAR XP AND JAP LOCALE. I INSTALLED APPLOCALE. NOTHING WORKED. NOTHING EVER FUCKING WORKS
The 18+ stuff currently isn't in the steam version, but they've said multiple times that a patch will be available.
Just get the steam version tomorrow then.
>Has her own VN
That change arguable enhanced things then. The stasi and groups like it were some of the most vile organizations in history. I'd argue that showing them in a positive or humane light does a disservice to the many victims of such regimes.
>I'd argue that showing them in a positive or humane light does a disservice to the many victims of such regimes.
And I'd argue that you're literally Watanabe.
But aside from jokes, you're missing the point. The anime took notable exceptions from the Stasi and either butchered their character to the point that you'd say "Well, shit." or put them on hold until they are needed for a 15 second conversation to advance the plot.
I am not arguing all the stasi were dindus. Just that there were some "good" (I fully use that word loosely) among them.
played her fandisk way back with no moon knowledge just for that sweet sweet fembro
I'm glad I didn't understand much, there was no plot and the boning was all dream sequence bullshit
>a bunch of horny teenagers figured out how to play this 10 years ago
I bet you can't figure out sad panda either
I kinda liked Extra. It's another run of the mill eroge. I really, really liked the connection to alternative in a few scenes, like when a shoe or something gets thrown from the bushes.
I agree on Altered Fable, I never finished it. Got bored to tell the truth.
Nevertheless, the Alternative ending itself didn't seem bad to me. Operation Ouka is a gargantuan task, people are bound to die. And with that reset, everyone is happy. No need to read the fandisk if you don't want.
Funny, I remember some anons saying that watanbe is a communist apologist. Instead of having people who are good turned evil by the system he have it so that the people inside are already bad and do evil for the sake of evil.
It was rather complex post but watanbe directed the show in a way that people would get the idea from the show that the communist system would work as long as there were no evil people inside exploting it instead of the system being bad from the start and turning good people into evil people who torture people for the sake of it.
That's the medium in a nutshell, senpai. It's rapidly dying in Japan and growing in the west, though.
I take it back then. If the story relies on their "good" traits make their actions sensible, then I could see how it would be a problem. If the director wished to make that change, he shouldn't have torture the plot to adhere to them.
Haruka best girl.
Mitsuki a slut.
Takayuki a wimpy faggot.
I've already played this a dozen times through. Wake me up when they release the Schwarzesmarken VN.
I raged so much at Kimi ga Nozomu Eien years ago, yet now I don't even remember what happen beyond:
>MC falls in love
>Girl goes in comma
>Girls' girlfriend snatches MC up
>MC is a beta piece of shit, works with some angry loli
>Comma girl wakes up and something about angels and little kid books
Don't waste your time. Personally, I read it for the mindfucks. The entire trilogy.
Boy did I fuck up there and make a terrible decision.
>No need to read the fandisk if you don't want.
No, but you're still forced to sit through and accept the blatant fandisc shilling as canon.
Its only purpose is genuinely just to promote the fandisc. That's the *actual* ending to one of the biggest VNs of all time.
Imagine if Saya no Uta or Kikokugai's endings solely existed to hype an upcoming fandisc.
>Taoluo is dead and his soul has been transferred and fused with his gynoid sister
>time for a moe fandisc
Bernhard in Schatten. It is a prequel to SM and something that explains the history, interactions and how the ideals and personalities of the two main girls in the character-driven drama of SM were shaped.
SM demo greenlit on Steam and should be here
Beatrix Brehme is the best example. Before you meme on me, I'm not talking about the anime.
whole plan was to execute the corrupt men heading the Stasi and take power. With that power, she would hold off the invading aliens with support, food, equipment and men from the West, since they were willing to throw in support with her.That's what's good for Europe.
If you wanted a more personal example of "good",
she regularly recruited broken shells and husks of human beans into her Stasi unit and gave them a reason to live, away from bullying, persecution or execution from less savory Stasi elements.